1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Life Audio, Trust in God, do what you can do internally, 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: and once you find that piece, which you're not going 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: to find an alcohol, because alcohol is revving up your 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: nervous system in everything, you don't need the easy button 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: as much when you learn that you are not the button. 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Busher right, It's God's life. Welcome to Love Life Sober. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm your host and your coach, Christy Osborne. This podcast 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: is for the woman who loves Jesus or is longing 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: to reconnect with him, and who knows deep down that 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: alcohol is no longer serving her. Here we talk honestly, 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: with grace and truth about how stepping away from alcohol 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: opens the door to the love, joy, peace and connection 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: you've been searching for. Because, Babe, those things were never 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: meant to be found in a bottle of wine. They're 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: found in Jesus. Through scripture, coaching and neuroscience, I'll help 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: you make sense of your habits, your nervous system, and 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: what you're really craving so that freedom feels not only possible, 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: but sustainable. 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: You don't have to do this alone, Babe, Let's dive in. 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Love Life Sober. I am so excited 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: to announce that the June Fast sign ups are open. 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: We are kicking off with forty days alcohol free with 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: an incredible team of coaches. There's going to be the 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 2: most calls that we've ever had, four calls a week 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: with myself and my team of three senior amazing coaches. 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: We do our fast in a private space off of 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: all social media, and there is a special space just 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: for the gals doing the fast. And in that space 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: we walk alongside my book, which is a forty day 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: Fast and I post daily in there. We encourage each other, 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: we pray for each other. This is the eighth time 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: I've run one of these fasts. They just keep getting 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: better and better, so I really encourage you to check 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: it out. I will include a link to do that 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: in the show notes. And our guest today on the 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: podcast is one of my beautiful friends who is also 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: on our leadership team in the Love Life Sober Community 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: and she is a Fast Captain. So we have this 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: team of Fast Captains that walk alongside our fasters, pray 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: for you by name, and help encourage and support you. 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: It has become such a special special six weeks. 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: So our guest today is Heather Dillion. She is a lawyer, 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: a mom of two living in southern California, and, as 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: I mentioned, one of my dear dear friends. Her story 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: is honest, funny, and deeply hope filled. Heather shares what 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: it looked like to wrestle with alcohol for years and 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: trying to moderate while quietly wondering why just tutorrinks didn't 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: seem to stick. We talk about what finally led her 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: to step into traditional rehab and how true freedom came 50 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: not from trying harder, but from getting honest, learning the neuroscience, 51 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: and getting in community. We also dive into the emotional 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: side of sobriety, why it can feel like it's taking forever, 53 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: and why that doesn't mean you're doing it wrong. Okay, 54 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: my friend, I'm so excited for you. Listen to this 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: conversation with Heather and I. Here is this week's episode, 56 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: and we will see you in the June fast How 57 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: are you. 58 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Live Life Sober podcast. I'm so happy 59 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: you're here today. I'm so excited to be here. I'm 60 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: so excited. 61 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: You have been such a massive instrumental piece in this 62 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: whole ministry everything, and so I'm so grateful for you. 63 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: Well, you saved my life. So happy to be a 64 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: part of it. 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: God saved your life, and so did you because you 66 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: did a lot of work. You did a lot of 67 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: work and now you are just like paying it forward 68 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: and encouraging so many gals in the love life, so 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: community and in the fast and should we talk about 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: what's happened this week like a little bit in the 71 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: numbers that have just like hit our community and everything 72 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: that's going on. 73 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: It's wild, It is so wild. 74 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: It's it's really exciting, but it's so so sad, you know, 75 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: for that weird economy where I'm like, oh my gosh, 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: we are reaching out to so many people and oh 77 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: my gosh, there are so many women who are going 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: through this and we have you know, we have a 79 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of gray area drinkers. And I was not a 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: gray area drinker, as we've talked about in one of 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: our rock bottomers, but you know, we have so many 82 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: of our grey area drinkers and women just think that 83 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: like and I did too, I'm the only one going 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: through this, Like I what is wrong with me? 85 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: I'm a Christian? I should know better. 86 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: Jesus loves me, has called me for better things, and 87 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: here I am fighting with wanting to drink, and it's 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: just a reminder you're so not alone. Like a holy cow, 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: you are not. We have what just five hundred women 90 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: that we've gotten to that have raised their hand is insane. 91 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: When I did the Focus on the Family interview, that 92 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: was the first time that they had ever had a 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: woman ever talk about alcohol, at least when Jim Daly 94 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: was there, and so he was like, you're the first woman. 95 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: When the book then like became basically sold out, unavailable 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: on Amazon after that, and it really truly is it's 97 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: not Yes, I poured my heart into the book. I 98 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: think it's a great book, but it's because this was 99 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: the first time a lot of women were hearing that 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: they weren't alone, you know, And so I got that 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: same feeling of gosh, there's so many out there, and 102 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: also took me back to that moment where I was 103 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: like originally pitching the book like three years ago, and 104 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: one of the big publishers is like, who's going to 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 2: hold this in church? 106 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: And so we have to keep having these conversations. We 107 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: just have to. 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: I didn't come out publicly about my sobriety just under 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: a year. I think it was a little before that, 110 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: and just the messages I got from people, from people 111 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: I know, saying, Hey, I'm kind of struggling with this too. 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: Hold it in church. You are not alone. There was 113 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: someone else there that's feeling it, that doesn't maybe have 114 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: the strength that you have, So you can get yourself here. 115 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this pod, if you've clicked on 116 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: the link, if you've bought the book. I mean, you 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: are such a big step, arguably the biggest step in 118 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: the right direction. 119 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: And I love that we're having this conversation actually right now, babe, 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: because you also in the last however long it's been, 121 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: it'll be two years in March, I mean, I've known 122 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: you so much longer than that, but have even come 123 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: so much further in your walk with Jesus and your 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: professional life and everything since we even recorded however long ago. 125 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: That was like, so much has happened, And that was 126 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: what I was trying to kind of really get across 127 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: to everybody, was hold the timing lightly, because God's going 128 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: to do so many incredible things in your life, and 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: of course you're going to accelerate that ability to do 130 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: all the things once alcohol is out of the picture, 131 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: but also you are looking at alcohol for a while 132 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: before you decided to finally take that really important step. Right, 133 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: Can you just go back a little bit, because I 134 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: want to encourage the woman who's like, oh my gosh, 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: this is a taking forever. Yeah, it takes forever, but 136 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: that's okay. 137 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: But that's okay. Yeah, it totally does. But then it's 138 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: easy and right. It's so good. 139 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: I am a social being, I go to parties, I'm 140 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: around alcohol all the time. But holy cow, it took 141 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: a bit to get here, right, and it was so 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: worth it. 143 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: So it took me. 144 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: I've never really had the best relationship with alcohol, but 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: I was never looking at it as a problem. Was like, yeah, 146 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: I work really hard. I have a tough life with work, 147 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: with family, with whatever it may be. This is my escape. 148 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: But then it became, you know, my everything. And I 149 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: first I was following you before you stopped drinking. You 150 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: and I connected through a mutual friend, and then you 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: stopped drinking and started posting about that, and I was like, 152 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: that's so good for her, that for her, And then 153 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty hit right, As so many of our our 154 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: friends in our group have said that the pandemic kind 155 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: of did them dirty with drinking, and that's where it 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: started to really spiral. 157 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: And I don't know that I could. 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: I was not great before, like I said, it's always 159 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: been bad, but the pandemic definitely accelerated it. And then 160 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: I went on a trip in twenty twenty one and 161 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: reached and that's when I connected with you. I drank 162 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: too much. I woke up feeling horrible and I'm one 163 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: of those people that have just debilitating anxiety post drinking 164 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: and really really awful depression. So I was in that 165 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: hole and I reached out to you. And this is 166 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: when you had first started coaching. I think it was 167 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and you were. 168 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: Like, oh, let's do do this. You know, read this 169 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: book and you know, let's chat. 170 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: And I connected and I was like, I'm just going 171 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: to do the alcohol experiment right thirty days where I 172 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: wasn't going to drink, and then I thought, I feel 173 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of good. 174 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: Let me do a little more. So I did one 175 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: hundred days and I was like I'm free. Look at me. 176 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: I went out of my I had two glasses of 177 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: wine and I was like two glasses. Look, that's all 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: I need and it was perfect. So this was twenty 179 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, it was not perfect. I don't know 180 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: how quickly I went back to my old ways, but 181 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: it wasn't good. And it wasn't until twenty twenty four 182 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: that I hit my rock bottom and said I need 183 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: to go to him. And one of the things that 184 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: I love is that in that one hundred days in 185 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I planted a lemon tree and that 186 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: lemon tree did not bear fruit until twenty twenty four. 187 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: And that's also when I got sober right, And. 188 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: I just love the symbolism there, and that plants take 189 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: a long time, like they have to get their roots. 190 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't work or you have to, you know, 191 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: refigure things out. And it took years for it to 192 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: bear fruit. It took years for me to realize, like, 193 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: I'm done. I will say. When I went to treatment, 194 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm done with alcohol. 195 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: This is it. 196 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: I knew at that point in time there was no moderating. 197 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: We were done. I wish I would have gotten there sooner. Man, 198 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: if you're here, you're probably done with alcohol. It might 199 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: suck to hear that, man, it doesn't in the long 200 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: tim like I can't. There was so long, I was 201 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: so piched, I was so many that I could not 202 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: I can't have a drink. I ruined it and I 203 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: can't have a drink and that sucks and I'm mad. 204 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: Now I'm like, I don't have to have a driink. 205 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: Listen, there are still times I want to know, I 206 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: want to escape. I don't have that easy button, but 207 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: I know it's not an easy button. I know that, 208 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: like how I respond is what happens emotionally. I only 209 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: need that easy button very rarely now where I used 210 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: to like that easy button, and when I when it 211 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: comes now, sometimes I just go in my room and 212 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: I could coon and I the world to be like 213 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to bed. And I did all of the work, 214 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, did all of the reading and the prayer, 215 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: so much prayer and getting up every morning and moving 216 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: my body and eating all of the ice cream. Yeah, 217 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: everything that I needed to do part of the process. 218 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: But it does take a while. 219 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: It does have to figure out what works for you 220 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: have to fix a lot of junk and a lot 221 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: of bad wiring that you've created by going to alcohol 222 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: for everything. Have been turning to alcohol for everything for 223 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: every happy event, every sad event, every hard thing, you 224 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: have to rewire your brain to figure out what to 225 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: do right. So it's questioning. And I love you've always said, 226 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: what job are you assigning alcohol? So it's it takes 227 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a lot of work to fix those jobs, to reassign 228 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: asks to something that's not poison. 229 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so good, babe. 230 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after a quick word from our sponsors. 231 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm prompted to just ask the question, can you give 232 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: a little encouragement to the gal who is stressing out 233 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: about the ice cream? And I asked that because we 234 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: had a question about that this morning in the community 235 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: of like, oh no sugar, And I do talk about 236 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: this in the book, but will you just speak to 237 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: that really quick? 238 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: Eat the sugar, Eat the sugar like it's and listen. 239 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: I am from southern California. We are from diets culture, 240 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: and you know you must. And I am a bit 241 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: of a health net. I like being healthier. We guys, 242 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: remember how much sugar you've been putting into your body 243 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: with alcohol, even just not cut which is what I 244 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: was drinking, because it was a low sugar and the 245 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: lowest calories. And don't get me to where I was 246 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: trying to get faster. Still has sugar, so just to 247 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: allow your brain to you know, and in time you'll 248 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: fix that. I still fix it. I'm still the little 249 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: sugar heavy. But don't worry about that. Have it's fine. 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: It's not a it is maybe not you know, it's 251 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: still kind of poisoning, but it's not. Hey, mine altering poison. 252 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Have the sugar. Don't worry about the weight. Don't. Like. 253 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: My exercise at that point in time was walking, like 254 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: getting up and walking and just being outside and hearing 255 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: the birds chirp. And my treatment center was around the 256 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: back bay in Newport Beach, So like walking the back 257 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: bay and just looking at the ocean and taking in God. 258 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: I was not on a weight lost journey. 259 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: I will tell you now I'm forty and I'm almost 260 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: sook to your sober and I'm in the best shape 261 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: of my life. It's like it comes, it'll come. Don't 262 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: worry about that right now. Like now I get up, 263 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: I have like little baby abs I've never had asps. 264 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you look amazing, especially in really little shorts. I 265 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: have to say I am quite jealous of the legs 266 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: you brought up the bag that you're fortieth, So let's 267 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: talk about the party. 268 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: It was so fun. 269 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: I was like, what am I gonna do? I'm gonna 270 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: be forty. We talked about going on a trip. 271 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: I love. I love a good party. I threw my 272 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: husband's fortieth and I was. 273 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: Less than years sober, like it was all right, but 274 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: it's also his friends, right, my god, I don't know 275 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: if I wanted to do that for me and then 276 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I just felt the calling 277 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: to do so that this is what I want to do. 278 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I did it at my parents' house in their backyard, 279 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: as one does when they're forty. 280 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: They have a really good backyard. 281 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: It was a really good backyard, and I did it 282 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: Havana style and had a caterer and had a friend 283 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: who's a bartender, and he did, I want mocktail forward, 284 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: but have cocktails. I want everyone else to have a 285 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: great time and if that's what they want. 286 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: And it was so good. 287 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: The food was phenomenal, so good, which so good, right, 288 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: The food was so good. All of my friends came 289 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: like all out, like everyone looked beautiful in their colorful dresses. 290 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: It was just so good. 291 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: It was so good, and just having all these people 292 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: there from different walks of life. I mean, when you 293 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: get to do that besides weddings, I think I had 294 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: like fifty friends. It was really it was great. It 295 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: was a fun time. And I woke up early after 296 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: and you came over. We had coffee, and honestly, it 297 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: was it was so good. It was just so enjoyable 298 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: and to not worry about too much, not wake up 299 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: with any anxiety, to wake up and just be like, 300 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: oh I feel I feel good, you know. And I 301 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: had there was one friend who was a bit inubriated, 302 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: and my heart was just like, I'm so glad that's 303 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: not me, that was me, and like I fell for her, 304 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: and you know, and honestly, like we're not that close 305 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: right now because my thought is I'll see you when 306 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: you come back around. This isn't really and it's definitely 307 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: not where I'm at. I never thought I would be 308 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: sober on my fortieth Are you kidding me? Either? Right? 309 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: And then to be not pissed about being sober too, 310 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: because let me tell you, thirty nine, I was like, 311 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: all right, we'll go on a hike, I'll do something. 312 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: But I was still like, was kind of pissed that 313 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: I couldn't drink. 314 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did not feel that way at all. 315 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I had there was like three different types of desserts. 316 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: I had each one, you know, like, I just it 317 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: was good, and it was it was a wonderful time 318 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: with amazing friends. So yeah, it was so fun. 319 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: And I just love that incourage for the listener who 320 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: literally is thinking, there's absolutely no way, right, there's no 321 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: way I could celebrate my fortieth or my fiftieth, or 322 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: we have some gals celebrating sixty in the community, like 323 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: even this week. 324 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: I can never imagine. 325 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: And it's it's think about all the other birthdays, right, 326 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: all the other birthdays that you did with alcohol. Of course, 327 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: it's going to feel really hard to think of something 328 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: that you've never experienced because you don't have any data. 329 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: But if you just go into it with like an 330 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: open mind of like I'm just going to give it 331 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: a try, you know, it's possible that it can be 332 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: even better than you imagined. And if you don't believe 333 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: us right now, that's okay. Yeah, I would have not 334 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: believed us either. I'm h you're good. 335 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: That's the same. I really wouldn't have liked us at all. 336 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: No, all the people say, like, you're not going to 337 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: have a glass of champagne at your daughter's wedding, Like 338 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, truly, I was like, I will worry 339 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: about that later. Right now at all I know was 340 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm not drinking today. I don't know if I'm going 341 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: to not drink at my daughter's wedding. Was like how 342 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: my my was in the beginning, right like I just 343 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: and this was too good coaches, good people in my 344 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: life and treatment that was like, just. 345 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: Don't have to drink today. That's all you have to 346 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: worry about. Don't drink today. You don't know if you're 347 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: going to drink, Just don't drink today, and then you 348 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: do that. I mean, it is the a one day 349 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: at a time though, is so real and so true. 350 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: And now let me tell you, like I could not 351 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: imagine drinking at my daughter's wedding, But I am going 352 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: to be God willing I get to be there a 353 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: right b Like I am going to be elated and 354 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: following her around and doing everything. And I have this 355 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: alcohol removed champagne that I love. By the way, it's 356 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: ninety calories for the entire bottle, so you can down 357 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: a whole bottle and it's only ninety calories. It's not 358 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: too sweet. And I know you're gonna ask me what 359 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: the brand is. It's like Memento. I'll I'll find out. 360 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: But it's so good, I'm telling And it tastes. I 361 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: have friends that drink thou. This tastes just like champagne. 362 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: So I can have my bubbles. I'm gonna have my 363 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: bubbles in a beautiful glass. But I'm not gonna be inebriated. 364 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get a headache. So many people don't 365 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: even like champagne. You all just drink it because people 366 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: tell you to. But I'll be there and I'll be present. 367 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: And but for for probably a year, I was like, 368 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: I'll deal with the wedding later on. 369 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: By the way, you listeners, my daughters eat. We had time. 370 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: But that's where I was. 371 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't drink sham My mom doesn't 372 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: drink like. I don't think I'm that champagne on my wedding. Yeah, 373 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought to, Like, you know, 374 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: just your brain is giving you these awful situations and scenarios, 375 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: but you don't need to be don't worry about them 376 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: right now. 377 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: Just worry about not drinking today. That's all you have 378 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, and we credit AA. 379 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: But also it's like so biblical, right, just he gives 380 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: us our daily bread, we are not to worry about 381 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: tomorrow because tomorrow is going to take care of itself, right, 382 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: And it's just that's how we learned to trust him too. 383 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: And I think that allows for that opportunity of leaning 384 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: into trusting him just for today, because he's He's already 385 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: got tomorrow right, the next day and the next day. 386 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: If you truly just focus on today, lean in today, 387 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: figure out what tools work in your tool belt, what 388 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: you know? A prayer should be a number one right, 389 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: But isn't walking outside? Is it checking your senses? I 390 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: had all alcohol removed from my house in the beginning. 391 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I just don't want it around. So 392 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: is it reading? I read a toime. I slept so much? 393 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Me too, Oh my gosh, me too. I literally took melatonin. 394 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: I don't think they make this kind anymore, but it 395 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: was like a dissolvable one from CBS and I would 396 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: import it to the United Kingdom and I would take 397 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: it at like eight o'clock, eight thirty and like be 398 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: passed out asleep snoring. 399 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: I don't snore. 400 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Chris will tell you otherwise, but he's like by nine o'clock, 401 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: I was like dead to the world. 402 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: But then it was the morning. 403 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: It was like almost like that fast forward to the 404 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: morning because the morning was the best part. So I 405 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: didn't take anything. I was just so dang tited. Well 406 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: that's not true actually, because I was because I did 407 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: go through an IOP program, which is an outpatient rehab. 408 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: I was medicated in the beginning. They turned me into 409 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: a potato. I say, I went through detox there impatient, 410 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: and then came out and so that's right, I see it. 411 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: This is like this was a past life now, you know, 412 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: which is so amazing. But I was pretty meditated, and 413 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: then all day I was in treatment. So I was 414 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: in treatment from eight thirty to three thirty. So I 415 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: came home and I was so tired. 416 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: We also hadn't slept properly in probably years, you know, 417 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 2: yeah it's decades. 418 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't slept properly, and I was doing the work. 419 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: I have a journal that I filled out. I mean, 420 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: the girls in my group would make fun of me 421 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: because I was such a little student there, right, I'm there. 422 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking all the notes, every single I took everything 423 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: so serious because I'm like, we can't be here again. 424 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: This is a lot, right, So I took everything so seriously, 425 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: and there are things that we would do that I 426 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: was like, but not for me, this isn't resonating. But 427 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: there were other things that really did. So just doing 428 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: that work. And maybe you're not in a position where 429 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: you can take all day to do it like I did, right, 430 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: But if you do that work in the morning or 431 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: the evening, the time that you're setting apart, and really 432 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: we're peeling away layers of junk that we've just hardened 433 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: ourselves and added on top of instead of getting to 434 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: like what is happening internally. 435 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: When you peel that. 436 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: Away and get to it and then heal that really 437 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: like heal that version, that pre drinking version of you 438 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: and find out what's gone on since then like a 439 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: it's exhausting, yeah, because so tired from it, but be 440 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: it gets you to where you want and you realize 441 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: and Christian, I can you and I say this now 442 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: all the time, like it's not about the alcohol, like 443 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: the alcohol is so you realize what it was really about. 444 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: For me. 445 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 3: It was a lot of imposture syndrome. 446 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: It was a lot of taking on more of the 447 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: low than I should have, a lot of not trust 448 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: in God, a lot of not thinking I was responsible 449 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: for everything. I'm not. I have no saying and that's 450 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: such a gift, right, And like, how great is that right? 451 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: You don't have to you don't have to carry it 452 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: on your own. You don't hallelujah, he livelyvia like it 453 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: is so much more peaceful on this side when you 454 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: realize sleep. I was never I was like, I'm not 455 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: a good sleeper. I was never a good sleeper. And 456 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: now I'm the best sleeper. I take naps and I 457 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: swear it's exactly what you just said that I've I've 458 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: learned to give it to God. 459 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: Like our world is a dumpster fire. 460 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: You could spend three minutes on your phone on social 461 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: media and think like the world is coming to an end, doomsday. 462 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: Everyone sucks. Trust in God, do what you can do internally. 463 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: And once you find that piece, which you're not going 464 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: to find an alcohol because alcohol is revving up your 465 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: nervous system in everything, you don't need the easy button 466 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: as much. When you learn that you are not the 467 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: button busher right, it's God's plan. 468 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so so good. 469 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 1: Big. 470 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after a quick word from our sponsors. 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Coaching 480 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: will start on June first and go through July tenth 481 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: for six weeks. There will be daily encouragement in that space. 482 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: You will be led by myself again, these three other 483 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: amazing coaches, as well as a team of our Fast 484 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 2: captains who have found freedom from alcohol through Love Life Sober. 485 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: We are so excited about this summer fast. If you'd 486 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: like to join us, you can do so at the 487 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: link in the show notes. I can't wait to meet you. 488 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: I can't wait to walk these six weeks for you. 489 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 2: It's going to be a really, really good one. So 490 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: head to the link if you would like to sign up, 491 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: and I will see you on June. First, you bring 492 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: up a really good point of if it looks like 493 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: traditional recovery rehab, that's great. 494 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: If it doesn't, that's great. 495 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: But I think to your point of, like throw the 496 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: book at this, because there are so many neuropathways that 497 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: need to be rewired. There are so many stories that 498 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: you need to turn over. For so many women that 499 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: I talk to, it's about their worth, right, and that 500 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: productivity is tied to their worth. Or it's about control, right, 501 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: like needing to have that control. It's something that they control, 502 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: even though it's a totally completely false sense of control. Yeah, right, 503 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: but it's almost like this control over being able to 504 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: like push that off switch or you know, the easy button. 505 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: Like you said, but throw the book. 506 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: At this, and by that I mean listen to the podcast, 507 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: read the Quiitlet get in the community. The second you 508 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: get in community and you surround yourself with other women, 509 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: especially faith based, who get it, the game changes, right 510 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: because not only do you realize that you're not alone, 511 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 2: but you will find someone who has a sim story 512 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: that you can actually connect with, be open, with be 513 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: vulnerable with. Nobody in this community is going to be 514 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: surprised pretty much no matter what you say. You know 515 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: what I mean, We've done some things, yes, yeah, yeah, 516 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: you've done some things, and you fine look for the similarities. 517 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: Right. I've always felt like I have a hard time 518 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: fitting in anywhere, right, And in early days in our community, 519 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: it was the I have a rock bottom and most 520 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: of the women here are gray area drinkers in AA, 521 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: it was like, oh my rock bottom, wasn't that bad. 522 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: I was starting to like, I don't blow them? Who wha, whoa? 523 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: Why Why are you letting that be your narrative? Yeah, 524 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Instead it's you know, finding you're here, you're here, and 525 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: you know alcohol is not serving you to your point too. 526 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in a Christian family. I 527 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: was you know, I had my faith my entire life, 528 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: which I'm so grateful for. But I had a really 529 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: hard time in the beginning, like trust Jesus, lean into Jesus. 530 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: The Jesus talk like didn't work for me. 531 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: Now now where I am Jesus, Like what are you 532 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: doing right? So what really hit for me was the science, 533 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: which it's Jesus created right, But digging into that science, 534 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: I just have a more analytical brain. And so digging 535 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: into the science and understanding what happened with neuro pathways, 536 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: what was happening internally with my brain, what was happening 537 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: with my body with my guts processing alcohol or recovering 538 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: from alcohol, right, And that's why I love this naked mind. 539 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: So I really like the science base to give me 540 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: the knowledge as to why things are happening this way 541 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: and to understand that with like decades of drinking, and 542 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: especially at the level I was drinking towards the end. 543 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean I was an everyday drinker, usually in the 544 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: evenings until I hit my rock bottom. But like drinking 545 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: that often chemically changes your brain. So the things I 546 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: was doing the way treating my husband was my brain 547 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: was messed up, right, And not that I'm not taking 548 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: accountability one. 549 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: Hundred percent taking accountability. I got my brain. 550 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: There, but it takes a while to read to fix that, 551 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: to clear, like literally physically clear your brain of the 552 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: toxins and of the build up. You know, if you 553 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: think of like a drain, my think of like the 554 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: hair we have in the drain, right, It's it's that 555 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: build up of your hair in the drain and you're 556 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: clearing it out, so it takes so even when you 557 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: get it all out, like there might be some residue 558 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: that you still need to clear out to have the 559 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: water go through clearly, like that's that's what we've done 560 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: over the years. And to understand that and know that 561 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: you are working on scraping off the plaque. You know 562 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: you're working pulling it out and cleaning it really helped me. 563 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: And and again it is all Jesus base, but I 564 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: needed Jesus science to first get me there. And then 565 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: the community though, to have women who just get it 566 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: and are just on a different level because of our faith. 567 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: And I I think what a lot of people don't 568 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: realize about Christianity is because so much I did aa 569 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: also and the community is really what saved me and 570 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: what has helped me move forward. But is that you 571 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: have to have accountability. God acquires us to have accountability 572 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: if you are like I am a victim because I 573 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: have this awful alcoholic gene which by the way, we 574 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: don't know, we have not found one, and I forever 575 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: have this disease that I can't do anything about that 576 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: just didn't work for me. What worked for me was 577 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: having accountability of like, wow, I let myself get in 578 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: a really bad position, and now I'm going to do 579 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: the work to get myself out. And guess what, I 580 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: don't want to drink, Like I don't have to. 581 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I have a disease. 582 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: Granted, in my opinion, if I drink, I'm i get 583 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut myself. Sorry to go so dark, so fast, 584 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: but like that is where my mental stability was. So 585 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: I do believe that I am never touching alcohol ever again. 586 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: But I don't have to touch alcohol ever again. And 587 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: I feel so good. 588 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like why in the world would we I love 589 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: that you talk about, Like, even though it's kind of gross, 590 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. The cleaning of the drain thing 591 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: is kind of gross, but it's a good analogy. 592 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: My husband just full transparency. I don't clean the drain. 593 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: He does, but he complained to me. 594 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: But I think a lot of the secular self help 595 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: talks about like cleaning that drain or meditating to have 596 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: your empty your mind right. And what we get to 597 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: do as Christians right is to clear those old pathways, 598 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: but then to fill it with truth. Joe Hargraves, who's 599 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: the faith filled therapist Gal who has been in our 600 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: community and done master classes for us and stuff, said recently, 601 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: you have to fill in order to be formed, and 602 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: I was like, that is so good, right. It's just 603 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: this reminder of continually putting truth into our brains because 604 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: we are so easily formed by everything around us and 605 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: so easily formed by the world. And I think that 606 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: our kind of journeys with alcohol gives us this opportunity 607 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: to stop and be like, I don't want to be 608 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: actually formed by the world. I don't actually, even though 609 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: I really did before. Not only did I want to 610 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: be formed by the world, I wanted to like keep 611 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: up with the Joneses and like you know what I mean, 612 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: all the things. But now it's just like we don't 613 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: have to do that. We get to, as you said, 614 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: like do it another way. So that's like the beautiful 615 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: gift in this too is that when you do fill, 616 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: you know your mind to form. That's when you get 617 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: the fruit of the spirit, right, because you are abiding 618 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: with Christ and so you get the true love, joy, peace, patience, 619 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: all of it, as opposed to I think, you know, 620 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: the secular sober verse where it's try not to use 621 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: alcohol as a coping mechanism. 622 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: And then I mean, so. 623 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: Many many people then pick up something else. And I'm 624 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: not saying that I haven't struggled with other things, Like 625 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: we know that I still struggle with Bravo, but like 626 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: we get to plug into the source, right, the true comforter, 627 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: the author of our true piece and joy, and so. 628 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't a question. 629 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: I'll keep talking too with all of that learning how 630 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: to get that piece you're talking about the fruits of 631 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: the spirits, Like the peace is one of the craziest, 632 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: if not the craziest experience I have received in sobriety. 633 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: We mentioned I'm a wife, I'm a mom of two 634 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 1: younger kids. 635 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: I'm an attorney. 636 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: I do employment law in California, and if you know 637 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: anything about California, I'm very busy. 638 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: And so it's just a you know, it's a wild 639 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: world that I never knew peace. 640 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: And now even in this universe, like I have peace, 641 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: I make mistakes and it's like, all right, we'll figure 642 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: it out. Where I used to feel like I had 643 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: a visceral reaction to them, and I think I've gotten 644 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: that visceral reaction just a couple times in the last year. 645 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I really am emotionally regulated in a way 646 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: my husband probably disagreat but I am emotionally regulated in 647 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: a way that I didn't know was possible. I didn't 648 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: know that I could feel this way, that I could 649 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: let things not affect me as much and really realize, 650 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: like that's about them, that's not about me. And you 651 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: know it is not to say that life is all 652 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: hunky Dori. I've gone through a lot of stuff and 653 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: had some bummer situations happen. I've lost people from my 654 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: sobriety right and relationships. 655 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: Just to realize though, that it's not about me. I 656 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: think that's it. I think that's it. 657 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: Like realizing it's not about you is so huge, And 658 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 1: I couldn't get there when I was drinking because my 659 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: brain was messed up, right and I wasn't emotionally regulated. 660 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: There's so much peace in it. But again, like I'm 661 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: almost two years out, Like if I would have heard 662 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: me and been like, okay, lady, you know, it was 663 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: so hard in the beginning and everything was about me. 664 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: I was not drinking and everyone needs to love me, 665 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: treat me with kid gloves. 666 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: You know, I joke because they didn't. 667 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: Life was life still life around me, and I kept 668 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: it pretty quiet. Not many people knew what I was doing. 669 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: It was in treatment. But plant those seats, do the work, 670 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: water the seeds. Can't just plant seats right away from them. 671 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: We need to water the seeds. And that's reading, doing 672 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: the quick life, finding what works for you. Does meditation 673 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: work for you? Is weightlifting your thing? Or is cardio 674 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: your thing? Or is what is it in your senses 675 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: that brings you peace? Is listen to a friend who 676 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: loved listening to classical music, like we just put classical 677 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: music in and go on a walk. I left social 678 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: media for forty days because that was I needed to 679 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: step away and really just focus on me, which was 680 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: really helpful. And that's what I love about our community too, 681 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: is that we're on a different app. So you can 682 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: leave social media and still have connection with us. If 683 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: we don't even need Facebook or whatever it might be. 684 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: Do the work and then and again, maybe you're just 685 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: figuring out I just need to not drink for forty 686 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: days or one hundred days, and you know, you figure 687 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: out what's next, but you're not going to know unless 688 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: you actually don't drink every and read the science about it. 689 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: Read the science about what happens when you have one drink? 690 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: What does a do to your sleep? What does it 691 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: do to your brain? How long does it take your 692 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: body to process it? 693 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: Interesting? 694 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: When I went into rehab, I bleue zeros and they 695 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: but they do a urine test and alcohol still popped 696 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: on it. 697 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, what how why? 698 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: I bluwe zero so like alcohol days and you'll show 699 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: up in your urine for like four days, which is fascinating. 700 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: That's just forget forgot about your hair and your body 701 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: and your brain. And I think it's what ten to 702 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: twelve days to process it for most people think like, well, 703 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: why would I have one drink? 704 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: Like what the heck was one drink going to do? 705 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna set myself back when I'm work, getting 706 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: myself emotionally regulated. 707 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah that's so good, babe. 708 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: I was as you were talking about like what to 709 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: do last night on our call, someone said something about crafting, 710 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: and I was like, who's a crafter here? Because I'm 711 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: so not a crafter and I'm so not creative. But 712 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: it was so fun to see the chat like just 713 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: light up with everyone like me I ne it or 714 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: me I crochet. 715 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're the same thing. Someone get 716 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: in touch with Lauren and ask her, Lauren, if you're listening, 717 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I fight you. I say that you're not the same Christie. 718 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: If I ever learned anything from Lauren, please it don't 719 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: come for me, Laura, and come for If it's it's 720 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: something to do with your hands, like I know I 721 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: would watch a movie and I liked having my drink. 722 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: And so if it's like just keep your hands active, 723 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: do that, pick that up, if it's sketching, if it's 724 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: don't drink alcohol, is it? 725 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: They also kind of sort of. 726 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: What it's the one tiny new I mean, you give 727 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: so many good tips, babe, like so many good ones. 728 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 2: If you could leave the listener with one small action, 729 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: what would it be. 730 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: Because we have so many new women in our community 731 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: who are fighting this, I'm just gonna say, just don't 732 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: drink today. Yeah, just for today, figure out how to 733 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: get through the craving or the emotion. 734 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: Go for a walk, Go take a shower. I love showers. 735 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: Just don't drink today. Don't drink alcohol today. I love that. 736 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend, You're the best. Come hang out 737 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: with both of us in the love Life Sober community. 738 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: We would love to see you there and chat with 739 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: you on a call. And thank you Heather for just 740 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: being such an incredible leader in this. 741 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: Community and in this space. And I just love you, 742 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: my friend. Thank you, thanks for help saving my life. 743 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: Friend. 744 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: All right, Galacie you next week. Thank you for spending 745 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: this time with me on Love Life Sober. If today's 746 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: conversation stirred something in your heart, don't rush past it, 747 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: take it to prayer. If you're feeling ready for deeper 748 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: connection and support, I'd love to invite you into the 749 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: Love Life Sober community, a grace filled, shame free space 750 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: where real connection grows and lasting change takes root. You 751 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: can find the link to join us in the show notes. 752 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: Love Life Sober is part of the Life Audio podcast network, 753 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: where faith centered podcasts help you grow deeper in your 754 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: walk with Christ. You can find more faith centered podcasts 755 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 2: at lifeaudio dot com. Until next time, be gentle with yourself, 756 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: stay curious, and trust God's promises. He has freedom waiting 757 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 2: for you.