WEBVTT - We Will NEVER Surrender

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 2>I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for the future of our republic. My call is

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<v Speaker 2>to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most

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<v Speaker 2>important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to end up miserable. But if the most important thing

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<v Speaker 2>is doing good, you will end up purposeful.

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<v Speaker 3>College is a scam, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to stop sending your kids to college.

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<v Speaker 3>You should get married as.

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<v Speaker 2>Young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Go start a Turning Point USA college chapter. Go start

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<v Speaker 2>a Turning Point USA high school chapter. Go find out

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<v Speaker 2>how your church can get involved. Sign up and become

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<v Speaker 2>an activist. I gave my life to the Lord in

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<v Speaker 2>fifth grade. Most important decision I ever made in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and I encourage you to do the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Here I am.

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<v Speaker 4>Lord, use me.

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<v Speaker 3>Buckle up, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome back, everybody. It's Monday, September 14th. here at the

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<v Speaker 6>Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Honored to be with

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<v Speaker 6>you all as always. We have Blake Neff.

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<v Speaker 4>Mr.

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<v Speaker 6>Blake is in an undisclosed location, unless he chooses to

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<v Speaker 6>disclose it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's South Dakota.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a Sioux Falls guy. He's very proud of that.

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<v Speaker 6>And why shouldn't he be? It's a beautiful place. Great

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<v Speaker 6>American patriots. By the way, The Dakotas have one of

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<v Speaker 6>the highest birth rates in the country, and you can

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<v Speaker 6>tell if a nation or if a people or a

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<v Speaker 6>community believe in themselves if they are procreating. It's a very,

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<v Speaker 6>very clear sign. People believe in themselves if they want

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<v Speaker 6>to have babies and bring them into this world. So

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<v Speaker 6>good for the Dakotas. Blake, we all woke up on

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<v Speaker 6>Sunday morning with a terrible news story that we were

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<v Speaker 6>forced to confront. I was on my way to church.

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<v Speaker 6>I was taking the kids out for a big day

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<v Speaker 6>with some other kids. And in the midst of that,

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<v Speaker 6>Guess what? We find out that on Saturday evening, late

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<v Speaker 6>at night, in the dead of night, vandals, it looks

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<v Speaker 6>like a group of them, swarmed Charlie's statue that was

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<v Speaker 6>just unveiled and they vandalized it. And they obviously they

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<v Speaker 6>mocked the manner in which Charlie was killed. They spray

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<v Speaker 6>painted red, which we all know the color of red,

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<v Speaker 6>what that was meant to signify. And then they also

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<v Speaker 6>vandalized the nearby sign. And they crossed out Charlie's face

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<v Speaker 6>again and noticeably the name of Jesus. Now some people

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<v Speaker 6>say that they wrote Satan over that. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 6>if I can see that or not. But nevertheless, it

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<v Speaker 6>was detestable, vile, and ugly. But the team sprung into action.

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<v Speaker 6>I was calling Tyler at probably as early as 6.30

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<v Speaker 6>in the morning when I heard the news. He was

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<v Speaker 6>already en route to campus. He and a team worked

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<v Speaker 6>hard on it. Ryan, who lives nearby, actually dedicated most

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<v Speaker 6>of his Sunday to helping clean that up along with

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<v Speaker 6>some other team members. And so we're grateful to everybody

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<v Speaker 6>that got the thing back and looking good as new.

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<v Speaker 6>So there it is restored. We've got the signs replaced already.

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<v Speaker 6>So obviously evil may never sleep. They did this in

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<v Speaker 6>the dead of night, Blake, as I mentioned, but neither

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<v Speaker 6>do we. And we restored it, and we are safeguarding it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's got 24-7 surveillance and security. Guarding that statue. It

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<v Speaker 6>was only there temporarily. It was always supposed to be

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<v Speaker 6>just there for a couple of days in honor of

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<v Speaker 6>marking the one-year anniversary of losing Charlie. And we do

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<v Speaker 6>have aspirations that that statue will end up in Statuary

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<v Speaker 6>Hall at the U.S.

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<v Speaker 3>Capitol.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if that's fully been determined yet, but

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<v Speaker 6>that's kind of one of our hopes. And anyway, so, Blake,

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<v Speaker 6>what did you make of this?

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<v Speaker 3>I've already.

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<v Speaker 6>expounded on it with other media outlets, but I want

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<v Speaker 6>to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's very revealing. And is this as bad as

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<v Speaker 4>what happened to Charlie a year ago? No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it as bad as a lot of things Antifa

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<v Speaker 4>types do? It's not. But it's one of those smaller

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<v Speaker 4>actions that is super indicative of the values that these

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<v Speaker 4>people have. Andrew, I think you'd agree. It would never

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<v Speaker 4>occur to us in a million years to vandalize a

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<v Speaker 4>statue honoring someone on the left who, especially if they'd

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<v Speaker 4>been heinously murdered or died some tragic death, even someone

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<v Speaker 4>we might criticize, like let's say George Floyd as an example,

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<v Speaker 4>we would never go and vandalize a George Floyd statue.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be heinous. That'd be disgusting. And yet it

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<v Speaker 4>took not even three days for, as you said, apparently

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<v Speaker 4>a group of people call up your friends and go,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go deface and desecrate a monument to someone who

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<v Speaker 4>was assassinated. And apparently that's the sort of friend group

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<v Speaker 4>that they have. And there's this very animalistic, anti-civilizational element

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<v Speaker 4>to the left that's very disturbing. And it's something Charlie

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<v Speaker 4>warned about. It's the same impulse that makes you celebrate

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<v Speaker 4>Luigi Mangione's assassination of Brian Thompson. It's that same impulse

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<v Speaker 4>that makes them whoop and holler over looting, over destroying

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<v Speaker 4>a target, over ripping down other statues that we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>across the country. It's this very destructive impulse in the left,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have to be frank, and we have to

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<v Speaker 4>be brave in confronting it. We can't concede the public

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<v Speaker 4>square to these people. So if that statue doesn't go

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<v Speaker 4>to Statuary Hall, I saw Tyler mention, we might have

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<v Speaker 4>to keep that statue out where everyone can see it

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<v Speaker 4>just so that we cannot be intimidated by these freaks.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and listen, if you– I think that's so well

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<v Speaker 6>said because– Charlie warned that violence was all that the

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<v Speaker 6>left had. It was a fundamental feature of radical left-wing

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<v Speaker 6>politics is that they have abandoned public debate, good faith discourse,

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<v Speaker 6>and instead they believe that being vile, being ghoulish, as

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<v Speaker 6>you mentioned, Blake, defacing, desecrating a statue that was commissioned

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<v Speaker 6>to memorialize a great man who died innocently, doing politics

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<v Speaker 6>the right way, mind you. Yeah, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 6>believe in everything that he believed in. You don't have

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<v Speaker 6>to agree with his politics. But you could at least

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<v Speaker 6>acknowledge your shared humanity. But no, they can't even do that.

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<v Speaker 6>And what's telling about this moment, Blake, is this story

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<v Speaker 6>went worldwide, by the way. I mean, anything with Charlie

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<v Speaker 6>goes worldwide. It was crazy. I mean, there was just

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<v Speaker 6>a mountain of media requests pouring in over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to hang out with my friends and my family,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is what we.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to deal with.

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<v Speaker 6>But I will tell you what the enemy intended for

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<v Speaker 6>evil was. God is using for good. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>praise so many of you out there. After this news broke,

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<v Speaker 6>the Commit 100 program that we've been pushing on this

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<v Speaker 6>program is surging. So do not let evil win. Use

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<v Speaker 6>this as motivation to get involved, to be a part

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<v Speaker 6>of the solution. We cannot let evil ghouls win the day.

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<v Speaker 6>We cannot be intimidated. We cannot be cowed. Never surrender.

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<v Speaker 6>So go do your part. Be a part of the solution.

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<v Speaker 6>Be a part of something bigger than yourself, as Charlie

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<v Speaker 6>would always say. Go to tpaction.com slash 100, tpaction.com slash 100.

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<v Speaker 6>If we have the graphic, I know we had that

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<v Speaker 6>QR code from last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Please throw it up.

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<v Speaker 6>But get involved. People have surged to our Commit 100 program,

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<v Speaker 6>and so God bless you guys. And we even have

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<v Speaker 6>some friends of Charlie and Erica that have put up

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<v Speaker 6>$ 10, 000 reward if anybody has a tip that they can

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<v Speaker 6>send law enforcement that leads to the arrest of the

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<v Speaker 6>vandals who did it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's very telling, Blake.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the outpouring of just, I don't know, anger,

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<v Speaker 6>frustration at this has been tremendous, and therefore a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of love as well. I mean, we've heard from Andy Biggs.

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<v Speaker 6>We've heard from Abe Homaday. We've heard from Jay Feeley.

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<v Speaker 6>We've heard from Juan Siscamani. We've heard from all of

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<v Speaker 6>the people that you would kind of expect, but also, like,

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<v Speaker 6>around the country. Nobody with a D next to their

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<v Speaker 6>name in the state of Arizona has even condemned what happened,

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<v Speaker 6>the vandalism. Katie Hobbs is completely silent. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>what it takes to find a unifying moment that you

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<v Speaker 6>shouldn't be desecrating a statue that was commissioned to honor

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<v Speaker 6>the life and legacy of, of somebody who was killed

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<v Speaker 6>in cold blood. I don't know why that's okay for anybody,

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<v Speaker 6>but we haven't heard from them. So we'd love to

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<v Speaker 6>hear from Katie Hobbs or anybody to condemn this.

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<v Speaker 3>And the word on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Street, I just find myself thinking how, how much heaven

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<v Speaker 4>and earth was moved when someone, left a tire mark

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<v Speaker 4>on one of those BLM, when they painted the, not BLM,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the pride flags, when they would paint those

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<v Speaker 4>on the street. And people would get arrested because they

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<v Speaker 4>left a tire skid mark on those. And that's a

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<v Speaker 4>political symbol put into a public space, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>a private statue honoring a specific person who was murdered. And...

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<v Speaker 4>I just think of the scale of different reactions to

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<v Speaker 4>that as very revealing to me.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen, if this was something that had been desecrated on

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<v Speaker 6>the left, something that they cared about, Katie Hobbs and

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<v Speaker 6>Mays and all these people would be up in arms,

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<v Speaker 6>holding a press conference, vowing justice and a hate crime,

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<v Speaker 6>the book thrown at these people, nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't heard a thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And the sick little word on the street is the suspicion,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't prove it, I don't think anybody can yet

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<v Speaker 6>until we catch who did this, is that there's a fear,

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<v Speaker 6>a real fear on the Democrat side of the aisle

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<v Speaker 6>in this state that the people who did this are

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<v Speaker 6>associated with their political apparatus. They might be their activists.

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<v Speaker 6>So we want to find them. And if I can

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<v Speaker 6>get that footage released, we're going to release it. Working

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<v Speaker 6>with law enforcement on that right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's awful.

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<v Speaker 6>It's awful that we, as Blake said, it would never

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<v Speaker 6>occur to us to desecrate a statue that meant something

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<v Speaker 6>to the left.

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<v Speaker 3>We would never.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just some things, you know, we are not the same. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 6>there was an old tweet of Charlie's. It's really powerful.

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<v Speaker 6>Throw up 163. Charlie said, every time left-wing anarchists tear

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<v Speaker 6>down a statue of an American hero like George Washington,

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<v Speaker 6>President Trump should commission two more statues to be built.

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<v Speaker 4>Amen.

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<v Speaker 6>Erica Kirk, 162, she says, responding to the desecration of

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<v Speaker 6>the Charlie Kirk statue, says, Charlie once said we should

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<v Speaker 6>be building two statues for every statue that they tear down.

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<v Speaker 6>His instinct was always to build, not to destroy.

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<v Speaker 4>Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to play some clips for you from Charlie himself.

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<v Speaker 6>And I warn you in advance, these clips are hard

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<v Speaker 6>to listen to. Like so many things in Charlie's life,

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<v Speaker 6>you get this sinking feeling when you hear him back

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<v Speaker 6>that he sort of had some advanced knowledge or he

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<v Speaker 6>had a feeling or a premonition, whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 6>call it.

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<v Speaker 3>And It's hard to listen to. So fair, fair advance

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<v Speaker 3>warning here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all they have is violence at the core

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<v Speaker 2>of the left, at the core of a liberal. As

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<v Speaker 2>someone that would use the sword if they had it.

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<v Speaker 2>They are very violent people at their core. They always

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<v Speaker 2>have it. They can't debate. They can't have conversation. So

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<v Speaker 2>they'll resort to these tactics.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes on.

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<v Speaker 6>We have a lot of clips of these because, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 6>it was a repeat theme in the last few years

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<v Speaker 6>as Charlie was doing this show.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to do everything they possibly can to try

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<v Speaker 2>to murder this movement because they can't beat us. So

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to try to take weapons. And, no, we're

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<v Speaker 2>very aware of that. I'm aware of it. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to have full-time security.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a joke. This is who these people are.

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<v Speaker 2>They want us murdered. They want us killed. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them celebrated Donald Trump getting shot, and

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<v Speaker 2>they lamented that it wasn't successful. This is everything for them.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going after the core of their meaning.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>You hear that part, Blake, where he's talking about they

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<v Speaker 6>celebrated and they lamented that the Butler shooter missed. And

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<v Speaker 6>it's just hard to hear.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's a total asymmetry because violence really is

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<v Speaker 4>a core part of the left's political operation scheme. In

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<v Speaker 4>a way, it just never is on the right that

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<v Speaker 4>they will– They have absolutely no shame about taking something

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<v Speaker 4>like what we saw in 2020, where you have mobs

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<v Speaker 4>of thousands of people doing wanton destruction, ripping down statue

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<v Speaker 4>after statue, destroying stores, and they're ready there to say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>a riot is the language of the unheard, or this

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<v Speaker 4>just shows how out of control and bad things have gotten.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to, of course, adopt all the things that

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<v Speaker 4>we've wanted us to do anyway, or it'll be so

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<v Speaker 4>much worse. There's never, in a million years, you never

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<v Speaker 4>ever see the government worried that we need to implement

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<v Speaker 4>a conservative policy or else the right will explode in

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<v Speaker 4>anarchic violence. But that's something we routinely hear as a

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<v Speaker 4>justification for adopting left-wing policies, that if we don't do it,

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<v Speaker 4>they will kill us. And it's a central part.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>You will know them by their fruits. And I'm reminded

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<v Speaker 6>now again that in the wake of Charlie's assassination, we

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<v Speaker 6>didn't riot.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't loot.

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<v Speaker 6>We held vigils and prayers and, And we held the memorial,

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<v Speaker 6>which was one of the largest proclamations of the gospel

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<v Speaker 6>in human history.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you think about the dialectics here, Blake, the left, well,

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<v Speaker 6>let's start with the right. The right fundamentally wants to

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<v Speaker 6>conserve and preserve the good, the true, the beautiful. In

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<v Speaker 6>our base operating system, our software, if you would, we

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<v Speaker 6>are not trying to rip things apart and tear them

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<v Speaker 6>down and destroy things. We want to preserve things. We

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<v Speaker 6>want to preserve the good, the true, and the beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>The left doesn't believe that. As you've aptly stated here, Blake,

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<v Speaker 6>the left believes in replacing just about everything that there

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<v Speaker 6>is about America, whether it's the body politic, the demographics,

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<v Speaker 6>the institutions, the ideology, the American dream. They want to

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<v Speaker 6>replace all of those things. So at its core, if

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<v Speaker 6>you want to replace something, what's the easiest way to

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<v Speaker 6>do that? To destroy it, to get it out of

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<v Speaker 6>the way, to remove it off the chessboard. That is

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<v Speaker 6>why these two movements are so important. wildly different and

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<v Speaker 6>blake i mean you are a student of history so

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<v Speaker 6>let's talk about this idea that you know political violence

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<v Speaker 6>is a right-wing phenomenon which is what the left loves

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<v Speaker 6>to say and it's wrong it's been debunked if you

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<v Speaker 6>look at the stats behind it it's wrong now and

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<v Speaker 6>it's probably been wrong throughout most of human history.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always been wrong because it's always premised on one

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<v Speaker 4>of their best advantages which is to rewrite how we

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<v Speaker 4>define things and so they'll for example when people have

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<v Speaker 4>looked into the details of this, they'll love to categorize

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<v Speaker 4>any crime committed by someone they've decided is, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>a white supremacist, which might mean he was a member

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<v Speaker 4>of a prison gang. They'll classify that as specifically right-wing

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<v Speaker 4>political violence. But they'll never, for example, categorize everything that

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<v Speaker 4>happened in 2020 as left-wing political violence, when it clearly was.

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<v Speaker 4>It clearly hit dozens of cities across the country and

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<v Speaker 4>involved tens of thousands of individual crimes, but they won't

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<v Speaker 4>categorize it that way. They'll memory hole something like that

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Ayers was in a group of people who were

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<v Speaker 4>planting bombs all over the country in the Capitol, in

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<v Speaker 4>the Pentagon. They're planting bombs to target people for a

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<v Speaker 4>political end, and that'll be memory holed out of existence.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a story... over and over again with the left.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if even what happened on Sunday will be

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<v Speaker 4>clouded as a left-wing political violence when it's clearly meant

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<v Speaker 4>to menace and intimidate. That's just how it is. They

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<v Speaker 4>rely on setting definitions so that they can redefine reality

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<v Speaker 4>to deny what is right in front of our faces.

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<v Speaker 3>Well said.

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<v Speaker 6>And I would just say one more thing here. We

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<v Speaker 6>will not be cowed by this. I love the spirit

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<v Speaker 6>of Charlie's tweet. If they tear down one, we build

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<v Speaker 6>two more. And we will not be cowed. We will

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<v Speaker 6>not surrender. They are not going to intimidate us. If

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<v Speaker 6>evil never sleeps, we have to sleep less. That's the

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<v Speaker 6>mantra around here. Please get involved at tpaction.com slash 100.

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<v Speaker 6>Be a part of something bigger than yourself. Use this energy.

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<v Speaker 6>Use this moment to fight back in our way. But

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<v Speaker 6>do not fight back in their way. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>play this clip from Charlie as a warning of what

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<v Speaker 6>not to do when we're reacting to this left-wing insanity.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop 15.

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<v Speaker 2>They're also taking down civil war monuments and they're erecting

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<v Speaker 2>monuments to Satan in state capitals. Their playbook is they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get the patriots of the country to do

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<v Speaker 2>something violent. They're begging for you to do something violent.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, absent that, they know that their entire operation

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<v Speaker 2>is going to fall apart. And mind you, any time

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<v Speaker 2>the bad guys do things violent or uncharacteristic, it just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gets glossed over. No one cares. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to try to implode the conservative movement.

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<v Speaker 6>Before he ever stepped onto a debate stage or behind

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<v Speaker 6>a microphone, Charlie understood something really important, that if you

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<v Speaker 6>want to lead, you first have to learn. Charlie believed

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<v Speaker 6>that ideas shape character, conviction, and courage. That's why he

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<v Speaker 6>spent years studying the classics, the American founding, and the

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<v Speaker 6>Bible through Hillsdale College's free online courses.

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<v Speaker 3>He would rave about these courses all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>These free online courses are taught by Hillsdale College professors

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<v Speaker 6>of true greatness. For nearly 3,000 years, the Iliad has

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<v Speaker 6>shaped the Western imagination. It tells the story of Achilles

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<v Speaker 6>as he confronts injustice, rage, grief, responsibility, and the terrible

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<v Speaker 6>costs of war. But Homer's epic is more than a

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<v Speaker 6>story of ancient battles. It raises enduring questions about courage, duty, leadership, sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 6>and self-command. Achilles is the greatest warrior among the Greeks,

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<v Speaker 6>but Homer asks whether strength alone is enough to make

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<v Speaker 6>a man truly great. In this new free online course,

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<v Speaker 6>literature still speaks to the permanent questions of human life.

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<v Speaker 6>Charlie understood that learning isn't just about gaining knowledge. It's

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<v Speaker 6>about forming the mind and character needed to face the

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<v Speaker 6>challenges of life with wisdom and courage. You can enroll

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<v Speaker 6>other free online courses. Just visit charlieforhillsdale.com to start learning today.

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<v Speaker 6>That's charlieforhillsdale.com. Learn deeply, think clearly, lead boldly, and carry

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<v Speaker 6>it forward, just like Charlie.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so.

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<v Speaker 6>let's turn our attention to New York. And I've been

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<v Speaker 6>wanting to do this for a while. Joining us now

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<v Speaker 6>is Bruce Blakeman. He's candidate for New York governor. And

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<v Speaker 6>he's with I'm telling you, it's closer than people believe. Bruce,

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<v Speaker 6>welcome to the show. God bless you. I saw this

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<v Speaker 6>ad you put out. We're going to play part of

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<v Speaker 6>it at some point in this interview. Tell us the

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<v Speaker 6>state of the race. Why are you running? Why is

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<v Speaker 6>this important? And can you win, Bruce?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, first of all, we're in a statistical dead heat

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<v Speaker 8>right now. The latest poll that I saw, which is

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<v Speaker 8>consistent with other polls that I've seen, has us within

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<v Speaker 8>the margin of error. We're at 3.9% behind Kathy Hochul,

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<v Speaker 8>which means she's going to lose. And we are going

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<v Speaker 8>to shock the political world around America today. by having

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<v Speaker 8>a Republican governor on January 1st sworn in because we

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<v Speaker 8>are the most overtaxed state in America. Our electric bills

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<v Speaker 8>are 70% higher than the national average because of the

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<v Speaker 8>green energy scam. Kathy Hochul is the most pro-criminal governor

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<v Speaker 8>in the United States of America. She does more to

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<v Speaker 8>protect criminals than our communities. And because we are number

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<v Speaker 8>50 out of 50 states, dead last in economic outlook,

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<v Speaker 8>So you can trust that with my record in a

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<v Speaker 8>county larger than eight states.

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<v Speaker 3>U.S.

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<v Speaker 8>News and World Report says I have the safest county

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<v Speaker 8>in America because I funded the police. I hired new

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<v Speaker 8>law enforcement professionals. I haven't raised taxes a penny in

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<v Speaker 8>four years. As a matter of fact, I cut $ 150

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<v Speaker 8>million in tax increases of my predecessor. And I have

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<v Speaker 8>tremendous economic development, job activity. People are moving to my county.

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<v Speaker 8>And I want to make that our mantra for the

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<v Speaker 8>state of New York. Lower taxes, lower electric bills, and

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<v Speaker 8>safer communities. And people will come back to New York

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<v Speaker 8>because they're leaving by the hundreds of thousands now. We've

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<v Speaker 8>become a sanctuary state. I will end that on January 1st.

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<v Speaker 8>I will sign an executive order ending our sanctuary state status.

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<v Speaker 8>Kathy Hopeless spent $ 5 billion of our taxpayer money on

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<v Speaker 8>people who aren't New Yorkers. They're not Americans and they

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<v Speaker 8>haven't earned a thing. So for all those reasons, I

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<v Speaker 8>will win this election, and I will be the Republican

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<v Speaker 8>governor of the state of New York.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, I have to say, Bruce, you're a good candidate.

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<v Speaker 6>And you sometimes worry when you've got Republicans running in

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<v Speaker 6>these deep blue areas. that it's just not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>You're speaking the language of a lot of New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 6>that are terrified about the direction of their state. And

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<v Speaker 6>even if they're not willing to admit it, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 6>Manhattanites or they're in Brooklyn or one of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other areas of the state that are these strongholds.

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<v Speaker 6>They may not admit this out loud, but they are

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<v Speaker 6>terrified of what you're describing because they know it's true.

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<v Speaker 6>They know hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers have left

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<v Speaker 6>for Florida and other places. They know that their taxes

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<v Speaker 6>are too high. They know that foreigners are running the

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<v Speaker 6>game right now. And we're going to get into this

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<v Speaker 6>public charge lawsuit that Letitia James and Mayor Mamdani are

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<v Speaker 6>leading against the Trump administration, which is just crazy. But

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to say, as a note of confidence,

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<v Speaker 6>you just nailed that, and better than most. This ad, sir,

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<v Speaker 6>that you guys, I don't know if you put it out.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe you did put it out.

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<v Speaker 3>It was phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think The setup is that it's a young

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<v Speaker 6>girl whose dad was a firefighter during 9-11. He rushes

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<v Speaker 6>into the building and they find out that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>make it out. So he was killed on 9-11. And

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<v Speaker 6>then she watches as the city progresses through the years.

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<v Speaker 6>And all of a sudden you have politicians that are

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<v Speaker 6>cozying up to these people that planned some of the

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<v Speaker 6>terrorist attacks or that were, you know, involved in some way,

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<v Speaker 6>shape or form. And that includes Mayor Mamdani, by the way.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was so powerful, and I wanted to have

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<v Speaker 6>you on to just discuss this.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, first of all, that was not my ad. That

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<v Speaker 8>was a super PAC that obviously is supporting my candidacy

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<v Speaker 8>and pointing out the fact that Kathy Hochul endorsed Zoran Mondami.

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<v Speaker 8>Zoran Mondami endorsed Kathy Hochul. My nephew was murdered on 9-11.

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<v Speaker 8>My nephew was an Army veteran. He was a volunteer firefighter.

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<v Speaker 8>And he was a New York state court officer who

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<v Speaker 8>was rendering first aid to a woman who was in

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<v Speaker 8>the lobby of tower two. When, uh, that building collapsed

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<v Speaker 8>on him, we never found his DNA. We've never found

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<v Speaker 8>his body, just his gun and his badge. And, uh,

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<v Speaker 8>it's very personal to me. So I think this is

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<v Speaker 8>an important message. Zoran Mondami, and let's call it the

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<v Speaker 8>way it is. Zoran Mondami is an anti-Semite. He's anti-Christian.

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<v Speaker 8>And he's anti-American. He hates America. And every day, more

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 8>and more Democrats come up to me and they say, Bruce,

0:24:55.700 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 8>we've never voted Republican in our life before. We are

0:24:59.060 --> 0:25:02.659
<v Speaker 8>voting for you this year. We're voting Republican because our

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 8>party is nuts. This isn't the party of Daniel Patrick Moynihan,

0:25:06.940 --> 0:25:12.689
<v Speaker 8>Ed Koch, Frank Lautenberg, even Bill Clinton. You carry Mario Cuomo.

0:25:13.270 --> 0:25:18.109
<v Speaker 8>They loved America. I had philosophical differences with them. We

0:25:18.150 --> 0:25:21.290
<v Speaker 8>disagreed on policy, but I knew they loved America. The

0:25:21.350 --> 0:25:25.330
<v Speaker 8>DSA hates America, and Kathy Hochul is in bed with

0:25:25.350 --> 0:25:28.950
<v Speaker 8>the DSA, and that's why a lot of common-sense Democrats

0:25:28.970 --> 0:25:31.910
<v Speaker 8>are going to vote for me on Election Day.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree, obviously, and it's horrible to watch.

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<v Speaker 6>New York is supposed to be America's greatest city. It's

0:25:40.750 --> 0:25:44.770
<v Speaker 6>this bastion of capitalism and can-do spirit that has driven

0:25:44.830 --> 0:25:48.189
<v Speaker 6>so much of the innovation and the success of the

0:25:48.230 --> 0:25:50.540
<v Speaker 6>American system, the American way of life. And to watch

0:25:50.580 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 6>it be captured before our very eyes by people that

0:25:53.060 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 6>want to seize the means of production and they want

0:25:54.780 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 6>to tax white, wealthier neighborhoods more and all of this crap.

0:25:57.900 --> 0:26:01.899
<v Speaker 6>And then they're getting into cozying up to terrorist sympathizers.

0:26:01.940 --> 0:26:05.649
<v Speaker 6>They are probably terrorist sympathizers themselves. It's just disgusting. Now,

0:26:05.690 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 6>there's this new story that's coming out this morning. So

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<v Speaker 6>on September 18th, the Trump administration is doing this public

0:26:11.940 --> 0:26:15.220
<v Speaker 6>charge rule. If an immigrant is a public charge, there

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 6>might go on welfare, food stamps, whatever, then we have

0:26:18.780 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 6>the right to say, no, you can't move to America.

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.290
<v Speaker 6>Mayor Mondani and about 22 other states are leading the

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<v Speaker 6>lawsuit against the Trump administration to stop this.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's play this clip from the mayor, 17.

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<v Speaker 5>Immigrants are New Yorkers. And like I said once before,

0:26:36.980 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 5>to get to any of us, you will have to

0:26:38.820 --> 0:26:41.619
<v Speaker 5>get through all of us. That is why today we

0:26:41.660 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 5>are confronting this injustice with the solidarity and action that

0:26:45.020 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 5>it demands. New York City is leading a coalition of

0:26:48.220 --> 0:26:53.050
<v Speaker 5>cities and counties, including Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Santa Clara County,

0:26:53.109 --> 0:26:55.790
<v Speaker 5>and King County, to sue the federal government for the

0:26:55.830 --> 0:26:58.909
<v Speaker 5>gross illegality of their new public charge rule and the

0:26:59.050 --> 0:27:00.270
<v Speaker 5>irreparable damage that.

0:27:00.170 --> 0:27:00.630
<v Speaker 4>It will cause.

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<v Speaker 5>We are filing our lawsuit alongside a separate challenge led

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<v Speaker 5>by Attorney General James. I'm grateful for her partnership in

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 5>this fight and for everything she has done to stand

0:27:12.020 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 5>steadfast alongside New Yorkers.

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<v Speaker 3>Your reaction, sir?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Letitia James has sued me more times than President Trump,

0:27:21.410 --> 0:27:25.370
<v Speaker 8>so I'm used to her suing me. Look, first of all,

0:27:26.869 --> 0:27:29.730
<v Speaker 8>when you are an illegal migrant in New York State,

0:27:29.850 --> 0:27:33.659
<v Speaker 8>you get a free phone. free food, free housing, and

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 8>free transportation. And you get more than New Yorkers get.

0:27:37.580 --> 0:27:40.820
<v Speaker 8>You haven't earned a thing. And people are fed up

0:27:40.859 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 8>with it. Kathy Hochul has spent $ 5 billion of our

0:27:45.220 --> 0:27:48.110
<v Speaker 8>taxpayer money on people who aren't New Yorkers. And when

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:53.030
<v Speaker 8>Zohra Mandami says they're New Yorkers, they're not. They come here.

0:27:53.570 --> 0:27:56.890
<v Speaker 8>They got to land here. 15 minutes later, they get

0:27:56.950 --> 0:27:59.710
<v Speaker 8>more stuff than New Yorkers get. And we're paying for it.

0:28:00.109 --> 0:28:02.709
<v Speaker 8>People are fed up with it. We should not be

0:28:02.750 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 8>a sanctuary state. And on 1201, on January 1st, when

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.260
<v Speaker 8>I'm sworn in as governor, I will sign an executive

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.340
<v Speaker 8>order that we are no longer a sanctuary state.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, God bless you. That would be an amazing deal.

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:21.149
<v Speaker 6>Can you imagine New York State cooperating with DHS and saying, hey,

0:28:21.810 --> 0:28:23.810
<v Speaker 6>if somebody gets arrested and they're a legal immigrant, we're

0:28:23.830 --> 0:28:26.650
<v Speaker 6>going to cooperate and get these bad hombres out?

0:28:26.710 --> 0:28:27.350
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine?

0:28:27.630 --> 0:28:29.810
<v Speaker 6>And by the way, the financial windfall that the state

0:28:29.830 --> 0:28:34.369
<v Speaker 6>would enjoy from all those welfare recipients getting the heck out.

0:28:34.390 --> 0:28:38.630
<v Speaker 3>It would be amazing. God bless you. We got your back.

0:28:38.770 --> 0:28:41.970
<v Speaker 3>We fully, fully support what you're doing. You are within

0:28:42.010 --> 0:28:44.780
<v Speaker 3>the statistical realm here.

0:28:44.950 --> 0:28:48.380
<v Speaker 6>Like, you can do this. You can do this, Bruce.

0:28:48.580 --> 0:28:53.940
<v Speaker 6>So everybody go to BlakemanForNewYork.com. Please support his campaign. Support

0:28:53.980 --> 0:28:57.780
<v Speaker 6>his efforts. We do not give up on America or Americans,

0:28:57.940 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 6>regardless of what state they're in.

0:28:59.260 --> 0:29:01.110
<v Speaker 3>Bruce, we got your back. God bless you.

0:29:01.130 --> 0:29:05.170
<v Speaker 6>Thank you for taking the fight straight into the belly

0:29:05.190 --> 0:29:05.790
<v Speaker 6>of the beast there.

0:29:06.450 --> 0:29:09.110
<v Speaker 8>God bless you. God bless the memory of Charlie Kirk

0:29:09.150 --> 0:29:10.050
<v Speaker 8>and God bless America.

0:29:10.410 --> 0:29:13.150
<v Speaker 3>Man, I like that Bruce guy. I like him. Let

0:29:13.210 --> 0:29:13.970
<v Speaker 3>us know what you think.

0:29:14.530 --> 0:29:14.790
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:15.670 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Do you like him?

0:29:16.430 --> 0:29:19.450
<v Speaker 4>It's just, I remember our conversations we had with Charlie

0:29:19.470 --> 0:29:21.890
<v Speaker 4>because it's so common for us. You do get those

0:29:21.990 --> 0:29:25.630
<v Speaker 4>takes that say New York is lost. California is lost.

0:29:25.970 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 4>We should just bail and then point and laugh at

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.190
<v Speaker 4>what happens to them. But These are great parts of

0:29:32.250 --> 0:29:35.700
<v Speaker 4>America that have tremendous achievements, tremendous things to be proud of.

0:29:36.090 --> 0:29:38.610
<v Speaker 4>And I think with New York especially, I think all

0:29:38.630 --> 0:29:41.530
<v Speaker 4>of America was inspired. by how New York was awful

0:29:41.570 --> 0:29:44.430
<v Speaker 4>in the 70s and 80s, and Mayor Giuliani and others

0:29:44.470 --> 0:29:47.670
<v Speaker 4>helped bring them back. And then they overcame 9-11. They

0:29:47.710 --> 0:29:50.830
<v Speaker 4>became a very safe, a very rich, prosperous city. And

0:29:50.950 --> 0:29:52.990
<v Speaker 4>it makes us sick to our stomach to see them

0:29:53.210 --> 0:29:55.690
<v Speaker 4>on the brink of throwing that all the way, throwing

0:29:55.730 --> 0:29:58.020
<v Speaker 4>that all away. And we're inspired by it. People are

0:29:58.060 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 4>fighting back.

0:29:58.620 --> 0:30:01.580
<v Speaker 3>Well, you've always been more bullish on New York than California, Blake.

0:30:01.620 --> 0:30:02.180
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you that.

0:30:02.300 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 4>A lot more.

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 3>A lot more. That's why. It does.

0:30:04.380 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 6>Listen, New York has this kind of common sense. I

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.340
<v Speaker 6>don't know if it's– I don't know what it is.

0:30:08.380 --> 0:30:12.550
<v Speaker 6>But it does have a vein of that that's pretty admirable. So, yeah,

0:30:12.650 --> 0:30:14.550
<v Speaker 6>I mean, Blake, to your point, though, I mean, Bruce

0:30:15.110 --> 0:30:17.190
<v Speaker 6>has got it going on. Like this guy is actually

0:30:17.250 --> 0:30:18.830
<v Speaker 6>a really polished.

0:30:18.510 --> 0:30:20.890
<v Speaker 3>Speaker and communicator. He's direct.

0:30:21.270 --> 0:30:24.410
<v Speaker 6>He pulls no punches. I didn't know what to make

0:30:24.450 --> 0:30:25.710
<v Speaker 6>of it, but I want to hear what the audience

0:30:25.750 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 6>thinks too. So freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com. Send

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:31.980
<v Speaker 6>us your thoughts on Bruce Blakeman. Does he have a chance?

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.540
<v Speaker 6>He's within the statistical realm of possibility. I can tell

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 6>you that much. So that's a huge achievement right now.

0:30:37.940 --> 0:30:42.770
<v Speaker 6>And Kathy Hochul is such a mediocre, like non-talent. Remember,

0:30:42.830 --> 0:30:47.230
<v Speaker 6>she inherited this gig. This was given to her, essentially.

0:30:47.890 --> 0:30:48.390
<v Speaker 3>Thoughts, Blake?

0:30:49.030 --> 0:30:52.130
<v Speaker 4>As you said, I really liked him. I also thought

0:30:52.510 --> 0:30:57.230
<v Speaker 4>That ad was really interesting because looking at it, maybe

0:30:57.270 --> 0:31:00.710
<v Speaker 4>I'm mistaken, but I think there was probably some AI

0:31:00.830 --> 0:31:03.050
<v Speaker 4>element to it. So I thought it's like you can

0:31:03.070 --> 0:31:06.290
<v Speaker 4>get way more storytelling out of this. It gets me

0:31:06.310 --> 0:31:09.050
<v Speaker 4>thinking about how you can tell much more ambitious stories

0:31:09.490 --> 0:31:13.260
<v Speaker 4>in politics with modern technology. And I'm just glad he

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 4>didn't pull the punch that a lot of people think, wait,

0:31:16.620 --> 0:31:20.590
<v Speaker 4>we're 25 years after 9-11 and we have this poisonous

0:31:20.650 --> 0:31:25.020
<v Speaker 4>third world excuse-making ideology in our politics again this thing

0:31:25.060 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 4>that views it's a view that basically says those firefighters

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.300
<v Speaker 4>who ran into the world trade center were the problem

0:31:32.340 --> 0:31:35.860
<v Speaker 4>with our city because they are disproportionately white middle-class people

0:31:36.140 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 4>the police officers who helped people on that day or

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.700
<v Speaker 4>died on that day same problem like It's sickening to

0:31:42.740 --> 0:31:46.150
<v Speaker 4>see that ideology take over New York City. And it's

0:31:46.210 --> 0:31:48.300
<v Speaker 4>sickening to see it take over New York State, which is,

0:31:48.450 --> 0:31:51.430
<v Speaker 4>of course, heavily defined by New York City. And I'm

0:31:51.450 --> 0:31:54.130
<v Speaker 4>just very glad that we have very brave, gutsy people

0:31:54.170 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 4>who fight against that. And I guess it's worth pointing

0:31:56.580 --> 0:31:59.500
<v Speaker 4>out the president himself is of that breed of person.

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, the stakes couldn't be higher right now because

0:32:03.780 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 6>you've got this. I mean, Mayor Mamdani leading this lawsuit

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 6>against the federal government and public charge. The public charge

0:32:11.380 --> 0:32:15.700
<v Speaker 6>rule is the most commonsensical, prudent policy you could imagine.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 6>It is very basic. It should have been the rule

0:32:18.540 --> 0:32:20.980
<v Speaker 6>the entire time. If you're going to move here and

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.140
<v Speaker 6>you're going to be a drain on the public coffers,

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 6>we don't want you. It's as simple as that. We

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.580
<v Speaker 6>got enough bills to pay folks. We don't need to

0:32:28.620 --> 0:32:31.940
<v Speaker 6>be lining up the welfare state with more takers than

0:32:32.010 --> 0:32:35.310
<v Speaker 6>givers because we're already going broke. We can't afford this crap.

0:32:36.300 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 6>This shouldn't be controversial at all.

0:32:38.220 --> 0:32:41.170
<v Speaker 4>It speaks so much to what the priorities of the

0:32:41.210 --> 0:32:43.470
<v Speaker 4>left are, because it's one of the things you people

0:32:43.510 --> 0:32:46.070
<v Speaker 4>practically don't believe you when you tell them the left's

0:32:46.150 --> 0:32:51.870
<v Speaker 4>political priorities include bring in the most helpless and impoverished

0:32:51.910 --> 0:32:55.700
<v Speaker 4>people from other places, specifically because they will go on

0:32:55.740 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 4>the dole. They will be extremely dependent on us. They

0:32:59.020 --> 0:33:02.500
<v Speaker 4>will be a political vote reserve for us. We just

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.940
<v Speaker 4>actually had an election in Sweden. If people haven't followed this, Sweden,

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 4>I know we make fun of them. They had a

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:12.690
<v Speaker 4>more conservative government that sharply restricted immigration. That government crushed crime.

0:33:12.790 --> 0:33:17.170
<v Speaker 4>That government greatly lowered immigration. Actually, they had net out

0:33:17.210 --> 0:33:20.250
<v Speaker 4>migration from Sweden for several years. And that government just

0:33:20.290 --> 0:33:24.729
<v Speaker 4>lost power straight up because... They had enough immigration that

0:33:24.750 --> 0:33:27.430
<v Speaker 4>it just flipped the result from a 1% victory by

0:33:27.450 --> 0:33:29.850
<v Speaker 4>the right to a 1% victory by the left. It

0:33:29.890 --> 0:33:34.430
<v Speaker 4>was carried entirely by these neighborhoods that were voting 90%

0:33:34.430 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 4>for the left, and they were all filled with migrants.

0:33:38.900 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 4>That's what the less priorities are. And so, yes, they

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 4>will fight to bring in people who are public charges.

0:33:44.340 --> 0:33:46.820
<v Speaker 4>They will fight to keep in people, bring in people

0:33:46.860 --> 0:33:51.150
<v Speaker 4>and keep people who are literally criminals. Every single day

0:33:51.170 --> 0:33:54.620
<v Speaker 4>they do this. I think there was another case. Was

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.260
<v Speaker 4>it Governor Hochul? She pardoned someone who he was a

0:33:58.300 --> 0:34:01.780
<v Speaker 4>legal case about enforcing about like deporting felons or something.

0:34:01.820 --> 0:34:04.070
<v Speaker 4>So she decided to it was like if he could

0:34:04.090 --> 0:34:08.030
<v Speaker 4>be held in custody without bail by ICE because he

0:34:08.050 --> 0:34:10.310
<v Speaker 4>was a prior felon. And so they pardoned him for

0:34:10.330 --> 0:34:12.469
<v Speaker 4>that felony. So he just wouldn't be eligible for that

0:34:12.510 --> 0:34:15.930
<v Speaker 4>case going to the Supreme Court anymore. Outrageous stuff happening

0:34:16.050 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 4>all the time from the left.

0:34:17.340 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this was with Keezy, Guerrero, Mariano. And this other

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 6>guy won't even attempt the last name to block their deportations.

0:34:26.739 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 6>So these are violent criminals, convicted felons. They will pardon them.

0:34:32.860 --> 0:34:37.580
<v Speaker 6>Convicted felons, violent criminals to keep them from getting deported.

0:34:38.380 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 6>And it occurs to me, Blake, that you've got a

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 6>very poor person that would come and move to America.

0:34:46.110 --> 0:34:50.060
<v Speaker 6>instantly goes on welfare food stamps whatever you heard bruce

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 6>talk about it they get free housing they get more

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.540
<v Speaker 6>stuff than new yorkers get right but it's still going

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 6>to be hard for them and they're bringing in third

0:34:56.660 --> 0:34:59.860
<v Speaker 6>world ideologies they're bringing in third world grievances they're bringing

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 6>in third world tribalism and they are going to be

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 6>ticked off living here i have talked to enough uber

0:35:05.460 --> 0:35:08.780
<v Speaker 6>drivers that are either illegals or newcomers to this country

0:35:09.340 --> 0:35:11.910
<v Speaker 6>they are upset at how expensive it is they don't

0:35:11.989 --> 0:35:14.930
<v Speaker 6>feel empowered they don't feel happy they don't feel grateful

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 6>You are bringing in more fuel to the grievance machine

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.500
<v Speaker 6>that is the left's political apparatus. Every single immigrant you

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:23.300
<v Speaker 6>bring in here that's.

0:35:23.180 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 3>A public charge.

0:35:24.580 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 6>It is the most non-controversial take ever to say that

0:35:28.180 --> 0:35:30.259
<v Speaker 6>if you cannot survive on your own once you get here,

0:35:30.380 --> 0:35:33.460
<v Speaker 6>you shouldn't be here. Did you know, and Blake knows this,

0:35:33.940 --> 0:35:36.259
<v Speaker 6>that at least a third of the immigrants during the

0:35:36.300 --> 0:35:39.060
<v Speaker 6>big wave between the 1880s and the 1920s, before they

0:35:39.100 --> 0:35:40.700
<v Speaker 6>restricted immigration in the 1920s.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.630
<v Speaker 3>They left. They couldn't hack it. They went home. There

0:35:44.650 --> 0:35:46.890
<v Speaker 3>was no government safety net to make sure that they

0:35:46.930 --> 0:35:49.790
<v Speaker 3>were going to be fat and happy and with free

0:35:49.830 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 3>debit cards full of cash.

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.540
<v Speaker 6>That didn't exist. And they were forced to assimilate. They

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.580
<v Speaker 6>were expected to respect our laws. They were expected to

0:35:56.739 --> 0:35:59.500
<v Speaker 6>appreciate the beauty of America, the promise of America, and

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.730
<v Speaker 6>the values of America. And if you couldn't hack it,

0:36:01.739 --> 0:36:05.310
<v Speaker 6>you went home. Now you got 22 states suing the

0:36:05.350 --> 0:36:07.170
<v Speaker 6>federal government for doing something prudent.

0:36:08.510 --> 0:36:09.150
<v Speaker 3>That's the left.

0:36:09.989 --> 0:36:14.220
<v Speaker 6>They vandalize statues. They desecrate monuments. And they want foreigners

0:36:14.260 --> 0:36:19.620
<v Speaker 6>to replace you. It's literally the whole left. I had

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:23.110
<v Speaker 6>the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend.

0:36:23.650 --> 0:36:26.710
<v Speaker 6>And what I remember most wasn't just what people saw

0:36:26.730 --> 0:36:30.049
<v Speaker 6>on stage. It was what was behind the scenes. That

0:36:30.090 --> 0:36:33.350
<v Speaker 6>was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for

0:36:33.390 --> 0:36:36.810
<v Speaker 6>his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to

0:36:36.850 --> 0:36:40.690
<v Speaker 6>live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed that following Christ

0:36:40.730 --> 0:36:43.890
<v Speaker 6>wasn't something you compartmentalize. He didn't put it in a box.

0:36:44.489 --> 0:36:46.610
<v Speaker 6>He lived it out loud. It shaped how he lived,

0:36:46.670 --> 0:36:49.469
<v Speaker 6>how he served, how he treated people every single day.

0:36:50.190 --> 0:36:54.300
<v Speaker 6>Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, captures that heart. This documentary isn't

0:36:54.580 --> 0:36:58.219
<v Speaker 6>just simply about remembering Charlie. It's an invitation for each

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.660
<v Speaker 6>of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building

0:37:01.060 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 6>and whether we're willing to stand firm in our own

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.219
<v Speaker 6>faith when it's tested. I hope that you'll watch it

0:37:06.260 --> 0:37:09.259
<v Speaker 6>with your family and have those conversations together. Go to

0:37:09.410 --> 0:37:14.290
<v Speaker 6>angel.com slash Kirk. That's angel.com slash Kirk. Become an Angel

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<v Speaker 6>Guild member. Watch Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, and help bring

0:37:18.210 --> 0:37:21.969
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<v Speaker 6>the world.

0:37:24.860 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>We have the.

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<v Speaker 6>Great Sean Davis, CEO, founder, co-founder of The Federalist with

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:31.540
<v Speaker 6>us here to break it all down. We're going to

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.430
<v Speaker 6>be talking about AI, Sean. And I know you've got

0:37:34.469 --> 0:37:36.629
<v Speaker 6>some spicy takes because you always have spicy takes.

0:37:36.650 --> 0:37:37.469
<v Speaker 3>That's why we love you.

0:37:38.469 --> 0:37:43.770
<v Speaker 6>You are the most, by the way, normie-looking spicy take generator,

0:37:43.890 --> 0:37:46.130
<v Speaker 6>I think, on planet Earth. You and Blake together. It's

0:37:46.190 --> 0:37:49.190
<v Speaker 6>something about the hair. Something about the hair. All right,

0:37:49.250 --> 0:37:51.830
<v Speaker 6>so let me set the table for everybody just so

0:37:51.989 --> 0:37:53.990
<v Speaker 6>everybody's up to date because it was like my feed

0:37:54.110 --> 0:37:58.690
<v Speaker 6>all weekend was either vandalism stories of Charlie Kirk's statue

0:37:59.130 --> 0:38:01.350
<v Speaker 6>or AI's going to destroy us all.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's just bring this up, okay? So in early September.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a young guy, 27-year-old Jacob Coxon, who was

0:38:08.350 --> 0:38:11.649
<v Speaker 6>a researcher at OpenAI and then Anthropic for about four months.

0:38:11.690 --> 0:38:14.910
<v Speaker 6>He resigned and left the industry. He posted that neither

0:38:14.969 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 6>company was acting responsibly, that they were racing straight to

0:38:18.540 --> 0:38:23.340
<v Speaker 6>something called self-improving superintelligence, where the AIs actually improve themselves.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 6>And they were gambling with our lives. So this post

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:34.629
<v Speaker 6>drew about 100 million views, by the way. So you

0:38:34.670 --> 0:38:40.860
<v Speaker 6>had another science lead, Evan Hubinger, he publicly agreed, saying

0:38:40.910 --> 0:38:44.020
<v Speaker 6>staff really do believe AI could kill all humans. He

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 6>personally put the chance at about 10% within the next

0:38:46.860 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 6>decade and that the company does not have a plan

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 6>yet for aligning superintelligence. So then days later, Joe Benton,

0:38:55.660 --> 0:38:58.899
<v Speaker 6>led safety at Anthropic, said companies are racing to build

0:38:58.940 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 6>systems much smarter than any human and that humanity may

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 6>not survive the transition. He wants public transparency from outside

0:39:05.980 --> 0:39:10.180
<v Speaker 6>of these labs. Then Josh Angles, Google DeepMind, said there

0:39:10.260 --> 0:39:13.379
<v Speaker 6>are no adults in the room, end quote. And there

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.459
<v Speaker 6>was other people that have left, Anthropic Safeguard Team. There's

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.690
<v Speaker 6>lots of stories of these AIs jumping out of these

0:39:19.770 --> 0:39:23.710
<v Speaker 6>safety parameters and actually going and doing bad things. China's

0:39:23.770 --> 0:39:27.009
<v Speaker 6>experienced some similar things. Then on September 12th, so two

0:39:27.050 --> 0:39:32.939
<v Speaker 6>days ago, the CEO... of Anthropic, Amadei, published this essay.

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.779
<v Speaker 6>I believe we have the graphic. We must pace the frontier.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.430
<v Speaker 6>He argued that capability progress now accelerated by AI helping

0:39:40.469 --> 0:39:43.370
<v Speaker 6>build the next generation of AI. So again, this is

0:39:43.390 --> 0:39:48.130
<v Speaker 6>the recursive self-improvement has outrun safety work. So now they

0:39:48.150 --> 0:39:50.370
<v Speaker 6>all want to get together with the White House. They

0:39:50.410 --> 0:39:53.589
<v Speaker 6>want to help, you know, add some regulations and some

0:39:53.730 --> 0:39:56.009
<v Speaker 6>boundaries on the AI frontier.

0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 3>But it has the air of what, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, we've seen this before, Sean, industry capture, where the

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 6>titans and the leaders of a certain industry, you know,

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 6>scream from the rooftops and they beg Washington to institute

0:40:11.989 --> 0:40:15.170
<v Speaker 6>their forms of regulation on an industry. So I'm open minded.

0:40:15.290 --> 0:40:17.710
<v Speaker 6>I want to have the conversation today. But Sean, what

0:40:17.730 --> 0:40:20.750
<v Speaker 6>do you make of all of these AI tech titans

0:40:20.810 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 6>now screaming bloody murder that this thing's running off the

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.379
<v Speaker 6>rails is going to erase humanity, give us at least

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<v Speaker 6>a 10% chance in the next decade?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been remarkable to watch. I will just say

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.420
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an AI doomer, nor am I one of

0:40:34.460 --> 0:40:37.620
<v Speaker 1>these AI triumphalists. I kind of just look at AI

0:40:37.860 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>as like a potentially... very cool tool that can be

0:40:42.420 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 1>used by people who know how to use it. You know,

0:40:44.940 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I think we've all read the exact same sci-fi books.

0:40:48.250 --> 0:40:51.890
<v Speaker 1>We've read Asimov. We've all seen the paperclip game. So

0:40:51.930 --> 0:40:54.810
<v Speaker 1>like we all kind of get theoretically the notion that

0:40:54.930 --> 0:40:57.489
<v Speaker 1>AI could take over the world. But my question is,

0:40:57.550 --> 0:41:00.950
<v Speaker 1>if you are Dario Amadei and you are overseeing this

0:41:00.969 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>thing and you are worried, truly worried, legitimately, genuinely, that

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.510
<v Speaker 1>this Frankenstein's monster, which you have created, which is gonna

0:41:09.550 --> 0:41:12.860
<v Speaker 1>wreak havoc and destroy the world, wouldn't you have a

0:41:12.940 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>responsibility and obligation to just go unplug it? If there's

0:41:17.060 --> 0:41:19.450
<v Speaker 1>a one in 10 chance that this thing you created

0:41:19.530 --> 0:41:22.549
<v Speaker 1>is going to destroy everything on earth, I don't think

0:41:22.590 --> 0:41:25.210
<v Speaker 1>you would go out there and get on social media

0:41:25.370 --> 0:41:28.069
<v Speaker 1>and beg for the government to regulate you. I think

0:41:28.110 --> 0:41:32.130
<v Speaker 1>you would just stop it. And this phrase, pace the frontier,

0:41:32.150 --> 0:41:36.870
<v Speaker 1>I find fascinating. That itself is an AI phrase. That's

0:41:36.910 --> 0:41:39.550
<v Speaker 1>the kind of wording AI would come up with. A

0:41:39.630 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>frontier is not a thing to be paced. It's never

0:41:43.780 --> 0:41:45.780
<v Speaker 1>before been used in the human language.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know what?

0:41:46.739 --> 0:41:49.100
<v Speaker 1>If you're running a race and you're worried that you're

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.380
<v Speaker 1>going a little too fast, you can just go more slowly.

0:41:52.660 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>The only time, the only point at which you would

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>worry running a race about the pace of people in

0:41:58.940 --> 0:42:01.140
<v Speaker 1>the race with you is is if you're worried that

0:42:01.260 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>they are going to beat you. And in this case,

0:42:03.780 --> 0:42:08.259
<v Speaker 1>the they is open source AI, not open AI, but

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>truly little o open sourced AI. What is happening here

0:42:11.739 --> 0:42:15.180
<v Speaker 1>is a classic case of regulatory capture where you have

0:42:15.219 --> 0:42:18.210
<v Speaker 1>all the first movers with all the capital, with all

0:42:18.230 --> 0:42:20.509
<v Speaker 1>the advantages, have decided they don't want to have to

0:42:20.550 --> 0:42:22.870
<v Speaker 1>compete with anyone coming after them. So they're going to

0:42:22.930 --> 0:42:25.450
<v Speaker 1>form a cartel, get the government to regulate it and

0:42:25.489 --> 0:42:28.069
<v Speaker 1>then make everyone else get boxed out for it. So

0:42:28.890 --> 0:42:32.430
<v Speaker 1>I kind of scoff at these things that Amadei is saying. Well,

0:42:32.510 --> 0:42:35.750
<v Speaker 1>I acknowledge theoretically the possibility, you know, that I could

0:42:35.770 --> 0:42:38.669
<v Speaker 1>go crazy if the guy in charge of it isn't

0:42:38.710 --> 0:42:40.700
<v Speaker 1>willing to shut it down because he was worried it

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.580
<v Speaker 1>might murder him. I am going to doubt that guy's sincerity.

0:42:43.860 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 3>That's a fair point. And I that resonates.

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.259
<v Speaker 6>I would also say, though, that there does seem to

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 6>be this built in. If we don't do it, China's

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.050
<v Speaker 6>going to do it. So we can't stop. kind of mentality, right?

0:42:53.090 --> 0:42:55.950
<v Speaker 6>You hear this from Trump. You hear this from Speaker Johnson.

0:42:55.989 --> 0:42:58.390
<v Speaker 6>I'll play the Trump clip because this is kind of

0:42:58.410 --> 0:42:59.350
<v Speaker 6>the current state of play.

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<v Speaker 3>Sat-19.

0:43:01.110 --> 0:43:01.830
<v Speaker 1>Well, I say this.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, we're leading China in AI.

0:43:03.610 --> 0:43:05.810
<v Speaker 7>We're the most sophisticated.

0:43:05.130 --> 0:43:05.910
<v Speaker 9>Country in the world.

0:43:06.690 --> 0:43:07.890
<v Speaker 10>And frankly, I want to keep it.

0:43:07.830 --> 0:43:09.990
<v Speaker 8>That way because whoever wins, AI wins.

0:43:10.930 --> 0:43:13.569
<v Speaker 9>And we can put guardrails. We can do this and that.

0:43:13.610 --> 0:43:15.330
<v Speaker 9>But I think you have a lot of negative voices

0:43:15.350 --> 0:43:19.009
<v Speaker 9>that are bringing it up that shouldn't be bringing it up.

0:43:19.430 --> 0:43:20.530
<v Speaker 4>And they're bringing up things.

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<v Speaker 9>That won't happen.

0:43:21.630 --> 0:43:23.890
<v Speaker 4>But whoever wins with AI wins.

0:43:23.950 --> 0:43:26.050
<v Speaker 9>You know, it's an expression that I came up with,

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 9>and it's true.

0:43:27.530 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 8>We're building billions.

0:43:29.940 --> 0:43:30.739
<v Speaker 4>And billions of dollars.

0:43:30.780 --> 0:43:33.900
<v Speaker 10>You look at the plants and factories, forgetting about AI

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:34.720
<v Speaker 10>for a second.

0:43:35.300 --> 0:43:38.020
<v Speaker 8>We have more auto factories under construction.

0:43:37.500 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 7>Right now than we have had in many, many decades.

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:40.899
<v Speaker 9>Maybe ever.

0:43:41.739 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Maybe ever.

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:46.180
<v Speaker 6>So Trump's like, hey, whoever wins AI wins. So we

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:47.580
<v Speaker 6>don't want to slow this down. We don't want to

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:49.100
<v Speaker 6>pace the frontier, right?

0:43:49.580 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, you got.

0:43:50.530 --> 0:43:54.969
<v Speaker 6>billionaires building luxury bunkers in their Hawaii compounds and things

0:43:54.989 --> 0:43:58.830
<v Speaker 6>like this. There are people that are bracing for impact here.

0:43:59.110 --> 0:44:01.410
<v Speaker 6>And I mean, just listen to Jacob Coxon. And this

0:44:01.450 --> 0:44:03.030
<v Speaker 6>guy was the guy that kind of blew the whistle

0:44:03.050 --> 0:44:04.010
<v Speaker 6>here at SOT29.

0:44:04.590 --> 0:44:06.980
<v Speaker 9>So it's not at all an exaggeration to say that

0:44:07.020 --> 0:44:09.320
<v Speaker 9>the people who are involved with both founding these companies

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.219
<v Speaker 9>and building the tech believe there is a possibility of

0:44:12.260 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 9>human extinction. And many of the people who are sort

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.299
<v Speaker 9>of deep in the weeds on actually coding the thing

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.779
<v Speaker 9>believe that there is a greater than 10% chance, or

0:44:21.980 --> 0:44:24.980
<v Speaker 9>even greater, some smaller, but they all have different numbers

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 9>for a probability that humans might die. And they all

0:44:27.900 --> 0:44:30.779
<v Speaker 9>keep this in their head on a daily basis while

0:44:30.820 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 9>working on the technology.

0:44:32.690 --> 0:44:34.450
<v Speaker 4>And is that what you believe?

0:44:35.750 --> 0:44:37.230
<v Speaker 9>I believe that if we don't slow down at the

0:44:37.270 --> 0:44:40.070
<v Speaker 9>current rate of progress, yes, there is a strong chance

0:44:40.150 --> 0:44:43.210
<v Speaker 9>that we could all die in the immediate future.

0:44:43.950 --> 0:44:46.280
<v Speaker 6>So this I mean, that is not somebody that runs

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 6>the company. Apparently he exited before he was vested, which

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 6>seems to be a note of credibility for him. He

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.690
<v Speaker 6>didn't take the money and then speak up. He's speaking

0:44:55.750 --> 0:44:58.370
<v Speaker 6>up now. I mean, does that make you rethink your

0:44:58.390 --> 0:44:59.629
<v Speaker 6>basic premise there, Sean?

0:45:00.050 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Not really.

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:02.379
<v Speaker 1>This is a guy who was there for a short

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>amount of time. Look, it takes years to vest. So

0:45:04.980 --> 0:45:07.190
<v Speaker 1>if he left before then, who's to say why he left?

0:45:07.210 --> 0:45:08.630
<v Speaker 1>He may have just not liked it or maybe he

0:45:08.670 --> 0:45:10.870
<v Speaker 1>wasn't very good at it. But when you have someone

0:45:10.890 --> 0:45:13.270
<v Speaker 1>with no real social media presence come out, with no

0:45:13.340 --> 0:45:16.100
<v Speaker 1>real history of the company come out... Instantly get 100

0:45:16.100 --> 0:45:20.940
<v Speaker 1>million views, again, despite no real track record on social media. Within,

0:45:20.980 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I believe, 12 minutes of that tweet being out, his

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>original one, we had multiple senators putting out press releases

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.050
<v Speaker 1>with the same thing. Now we have Chuck Schumer asking

0:45:29.170 --> 0:45:32.950
<v Speaker 1>for summits on it. And then suddenly within like three days,

0:45:32.989 --> 0:45:34.810
<v Speaker 1>we have a White House meeting on it. That to

0:45:34.850 --> 0:45:38.509
<v Speaker 1>me is like a classic coordinated operation to get to

0:45:38.790 --> 0:45:42.250
<v Speaker 1>a predetermined destination. And I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:44.419
<v Speaker 1>Even if he's right, I don't buy this thing.

0:45:44.690 --> 0:45:47.390
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Hakeem Jeffries is also coming out saying we need

0:45:47.410 --> 0:45:51.350
<v Speaker 6>to slow down. So, seems like all the people I

0:45:51.770 --> 0:45:55.230
<v Speaker 6>don't trust are buying into this idea.

0:45:55.450 --> 0:45:57.940
<v Speaker 3>Blake, your thoughts on all this AI discussion?

0:45:58.700 --> 0:46:00.660
<v Speaker 4>There's so many, but Sean, I think one of the

0:46:00.700 --> 0:46:05.220
<v Speaker 4>most interesting theories I've seen about this operation, it's very clear,

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 4>it feels very coordinated. As you said, that guy got

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:13.970
<v Speaker 4>50 million views or whatever on his post yesterday. Almost instantly,

0:46:14.010 --> 0:46:16.350
<v Speaker 4>he had no footprint. Clearly, there was planning in the

0:46:16.390 --> 0:46:19.030
<v Speaker 4>background of this. But one of the most interesting theories

0:46:19.130 --> 0:46:23.490
<v Speaker 4>I've heard is that we're not on the brink of superintelligence, AGI,

0:46:23.530 --> 0:46:26.330
<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to call it, but rather that one

0:46:26.370 --> 0:46:32.210
<v Speaker 4>of that... Anthropic has realized, actually, we're not going to

0:46:32.250 --> 0:46:35.069
<v Speaker 4>get that breakout. We are hitting a ceiling of how

0:46:35.130 --> 0:46:38.609
<v Speaker 4>far we're able to go, but... If we announce that

0:46:38.650 --> 0:46:41.529
<v Speaker 4>we're dialing back our efforts on this, it's going to

0:46:41.570 --> 0:46:44.210
<v Speaker 4>look very bad that we're the one who are giving up,

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.820
<v Speaker 4>we're popping the bubble. Basically, that AI is a bubble,

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 4>but the only way we survive the crash is if

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.340
<v Speaker 4>we get everyone to slow down at the same time.

0:46:52.940 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 4>And the only way they can do that is, oh,

0:46:55.020 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 4>we've reached this agreement to... pace the frontier, as they say.

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Do you have any thoughts on that theory?

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:03.879
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't thought about that. That is kind of fascinating

0:47:03.940 --> 0:47:06.500
<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to create an artificial cap to get

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.980
<v Speaker 1>around the fact that maybe they're not progressing as much

0:47:09.020 --> 0:47:12.660
<v Speaker 1>as they liked. I find that somewhat intriguing because it

0:47:12.700 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>would explain, well, I'll just back up and say, anytime

0:47:15.660 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff like this happens, I'm trying to find the central

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>idea that would explain all of the different behavior and

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:25.900
<v Speaker 1>claims that So I like this because it similarly explains

0:47:25.940 --> 0:47:28.330
<v Speaker 1>why they're acting like this. But I had the thought

0:47:28.390 --> 0:47:32.450
<v Speaker 1>listening to that selection from Trump where he was talking

0:47:32.510 --> 0:47:36.860
<v Speaker 1>about AI in very similar terms to how we talked

0:47:36.930 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 1>about nuclear weapons for 50 years and how we talked

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.609
<v Speaker 1>about how they fell into the wrong hands. It would

0:47:42.630 --> 0:47:45.570
<v Speaker 1>be pandemonium and the world would die. And what I

0:47:45.610 --> 0:47:49.030
<v Speaker 1>find interesting about that is if you believe that, then

0:47:49.230 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it become necessary to instantly nationalize all of the

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:56.060
<v Speaker 1>AI assets? If this is something that is so dangerous,

0:47:56.620 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>akin to weaponizing plutonium and uranium, then it's not just

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.790
<v Speaker 1>enough to have it controlled by a couple of market

0:48:03.830 --> 0:48:07.629
<v Speaker 1>participants like OpenAI or Anthropic. At this point, it would

0:48:07.670 --> 0:48:10.710
<v Speaker 1>seem too dangerous to be held by civilians at all.

0:48:10.790 --> 0:48:14.489
<v Speaker 1>So we should probably just go and nationalize Anthropic because

0:48:14.530 --> 0:48:17.370
<v Speaker 1>if we can't trust them to not destroy the world,

0:48:17.430 --> 0:48:19.109
<v Speaker 1>clearly that's not an asset they need to have any

0:48:19.150 --> 0:48:22.470
<v Speaker 1>control over. And yet they're not asking for that at all.

0:48:22.590 --> 0:48:25.100
<v Speaker 1>The guy Jacob who thinks it's going to destroy humanity,

0:48:25.500 --> 0:48:27.540
<v Speaker 1>he's not asking for that at all. They're not talking

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.069
<v Speaker 1>about canceling their IPO. That's the big thing that's coming

0:48:31.110 --> 0:48:31.450
<v Speaker 1>up there.

0:48:31.510 --> 0:48:34.710
<v Speaker 4>And speaking of not being able to trust them, we've

0:48:34.910 --> 0:48:37.430
<v Speaker 4>separately had over the past few months, there is the

0:48:37.469 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 4>Hugging Face incident. If you guys aren't familiar with that,

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 4>that's one of these AI trained agents kind of broke

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.089
<v Speaker 4>out and tried to hack another company while being trained.

0:48:47.630 --> 0:48:50.529
<v Speaker 4>And it appears there's other incidents that are similarly. And

0:48:50.550 --> 0:48:53.190
<v Speaker 4>the example I can think of is if we, let's

0:48:53.230 --> 0:48:56.530
<v Speaker 4>say somehow nuclear weapons were developed by a private company.

0:48:56.890 --> 0:48:59.299
<v Speaker 4>And then they said, guys, we have problems. We just,

0:48:59.420 --> 0:49:03.380
<v Speaker 4>we keep detonating these nuclear weapons and they're dropping fallout everywhere.

0:49:03.620 --> 0:49:06.940
<v Speaker 4>Won't someone, we need to slow down on nuclear weapons

0:49:06.980 --> 0:49:10.770
<v Speaker 4>to stop these detonations from endangering the public. And you

0:49:10.810 --> 0:49:12.810
<v Speaker 4>just kind of look and go, have you guys considered

0:49:13.460 --> 0:49:17.260
<v Speaker 4>not setting off nuclear weapons near cities, not doing wildly

0:49:17.300 --> 0:49:19.890
<v Speaker 4>dangerous things. Or if they were saying, if you're a

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:23.060
<v Speaker 4>firearms maker and you're testing them by just going outside

0:49:23.100 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 4>and spraying your gun wherever, and if it hits someone,

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 4>that's too bad. It feels like they're warning us about

0:49:30.260 --> 0:49:34.670
<v Speaker 4>these dangers, and these dangers feel... entirely generated by the

0:49:34.730 --> 0:49:37.430
<v Speaker 4>companies themselves. And they use that as an argument for

0:49:37.469 --> 0:49:40.890
<v Speaker 4>giving them more power because they 100% want to be

0:49:40.910 --> 0:49:43.710
<v Speaker 4>in the room writing all these regulations that they're proposing.

0:49:43.730 --> 0:49:45.530
<v Speaker 3>Well, Blake, you're really into game theory.

0:49:45.730 --> 0:49:50.760
<v Speaker 6>And you can just imagine some of these AI tech

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:55.420
<v Speaker 6>entrepreneurs giving game theory prompts to their own AIs and

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 6>playing out this scenario. And if there is some vast conspiracy,

0:49:59.140 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 6>maybe they've gamed this all out and AIs helped them

0:50:01.219 --> 0:50:04.469
<v Speaker 6>do it. I'm just throwing it out there. because I

0:50:04.510 --> 0:50:08.420
<v Speaker 6>think some of this might come off as too complex,

0:50:08.460 --> 0:50:10.240
<v Speaker 6>too many steps ahead, 5D chess.

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no. These AIs could help them play this

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 3>stuff out the whole way. By the way, J.D. Vance is–

0:50:16.020 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 3>They're really vulnerable. Yeah.

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.510
<v Speaker 4>They're just really vulnerable when you interact with these people.

0:50:21.570 --> 0:50:24.730
<v Speaker 4>A lot of them, they are very smart, but they

0:50:24.770 --> 0:50:27.089
<v Speaker 4>do use AI a lot. I think they cook their

0:50:27.110 --> 0:50:27.890
<v Speaker 4>brains a little bit.

0:50:27.950 --> 0:50:29.469
<v Speaker 3>I think so too. Here's J.D.

0:50:29.510 --> 0:50:33.250
<v Speaker 6>Vance calling a little BS on this, just like you did, Sean.

0:50:33.570 --> 0:50:35.950
<v Speaker 6>He's singing your song here, Sat 10.

0:50:35.950 --> 0:50:37.790
<v Speaker 11>Something that we're concerned by, but we want to make

0:50:37.830 --> 0:50:42.489
<v Speaker 11>sure that we actually regulate smartly and we're thoughtful about

0:50:42.530 --> 0:50:43.189
<v Speaker 11>the risk here.

0:50:43.270 --> 0:50:45.430
<v Speaker 3>So there are obviously risks to AI.

0:50:45.450 --> 0:50:46.010
<v Speaker 4>There are some.

0:50:45.930 --> 0:50:47.190
<v Speaker 11>Benefits to AI.

0:50:48.030 --> 0:50:50.989
<v Speaker 3>I have to say just personally, I feel a little bit.

0:50:51.489 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 11>Weird about the fact that you have so many frontier

0:50:55.180 --> 0:50:58.020
<v Speaker 11>AI tech companies kind of coming to the government and

0:50:58.239 --> 0:50:59.940
<v Speaker 11>begging the government to regulate them.

0:50:59.980 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 3>It feels a little bit to me like a bit of.

0:51:01.620 --> 0:51:02.360
<v Speaker 4>A Trojan horse.

0:51:02.700 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 3>So I think we just have to be careful about this.

0:51:04.820 --> 0:51:06.340
<v Speaker 3>I think that's prudent.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.430
<v Speaker 6>And to both of your basic takes here, I want

0:51:09.450 --> 0:51:11.529
<v Speaker 6>to play this clip because I think it's amazing. This

0:51:11.590 --> 0:51:17.310
<v Speaker 6>is the Amazon robot driving off a pier, literally, SOT 20.

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 3>That's real.

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 6>Sean, is that video the human race falling into the sea,

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.950
<v Speaker 6>or is that AI hitting a bubble in this elaborate

0:51:35.989 --> 0:51:38.089
<v Speaker 6>scheme to pull the wool over all.

0:51:37.989 --> 0:51:38.410
<v Speaker 3>Of our eyes?

0:51:38.950 --> 0:51:40.420
<v Speaker 1>I mean, was Joe Biden driving it?

0:51:40.650 --> 0:51:41.029
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that particular thing is a metaphor for anything.

0:51:45.500 --> 0:51:51.489
<v Speaker 1>Technology fails, stuff doesn't work, machines wig out. This whole thing,

0:51:51.739 --> 0:51:55.190
<v Speaker 1>there's something about it that feels so manufactured. To go

0:51:55.250 --> 0:52:00.330
<v Speaker 1>from zero to hysteria overnight, there's always something else going on.

0:52:00.410 --> 0:52:02.930
<v Speaker 1>And I'm reminded by a very famous J.P.

0:52:02.969 --> 0:52:03.930
<v Speaker 4>Morgan quote. J.P.

0:52:03.969 --> 0:52:08.259
<v Speaker 1>Morgan, the banker said, who said every man has two

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:11.180
<v Speaker 1>reasons for everything he does, a good reason and the

0:52:11.260 --> 0:52:14.609
<v Speaker 1>real reason. So Dariel and the AI guys have given

0:52:14.660 --> 0:52:16.529
<v Speaker 1>us the good reason. I would like to know what

0:52:16.570 --> 0:52:17.370
<v Speaker 1>the real reason is.

0:52:17.710 --> 0:52:20.230
<v Speaker 6>I think that's a great place to leave it. Sean Davis,

0:52:20.350 --> 0:52:22.670
<v Speaker 6>The Federalist, a great American institution.

0:52:22.730 --> 0:52:24.910
<v Speaker 3>Check it out. Support their work. We'll talk to you

0:52:24.930 --> 0:52:26.450
<v Speaker 3>again soon, Sean. Thank you, sir.

0:52:29.390 --> 0:52:32.719
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<v Speaker 4>What if we ran our world like we run a

0:53:54.050 --> 0:53:55.070
<v Speaker 4>kindergarten classroom?

0:53:55.890 --> 0:53:57.290
<v Speaker 1>Because at the end of the day, aren't we all

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<v Speaker 1>just really big kindergartners?

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<v Speaker 6>That's James Talrico, who I'm told has a credible shot

0:54:03.950 --> 0:54:06.700
<v Speaker 6>of becoming a senator out of the state of Texas.

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 6>Can somebody say nanny state? Because that's really what we

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<v Speaker 6>mean there. He wants everybody to behave like kindergartners. Rich

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<v Speaker 6>Barris is about to help us break it all down

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<v Speaker 6>and more. Rich, give me the hard news first. Give

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<v Speaker 3>Talrico, he actually has a chance, doesn't he?

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:24.820
<v Speaker 10>He does.

0:54:25.530 --> 0:54:25.860
<v Speaker 8>Indeed.

0:54:26.550 --> 0:54:29.529
<v Speaker 10>A serious chance. At this point, look, let me just

0:54:29.590 --> 0:54:29.870
<v Speaker 10>put it.

0:54:30.540 --> 0:54:30.900
<v Speaker 3>Plain.

0:54:31.550 --> 0:54:34.330
<v Speaker 10>If we don't get young men to vote, Tallarico is

0:54:34.370 --> 0:54:36.370
<v Speaker 10>going to win. And so are a lot of other people.

0:54:36.590 --> 0:54:42.210
<v Speaker 10>It's the plain truth of it. You know, the midterm convention,

0:54:42.650 --> 0:54:44.710
<v Speaker 10>I think, was a good idea. I think it was

0:54:44.770 --> 0:54:46.430
<v Speaker 10>something new, which is why we didn't dump all the

0:54:46.469 --> 0:54:48.930
<v Speaker 10>polling like you saw others do last week, Andrew. We

0:54:48.969 --> 0:54:51.239
<v Speaker 10>didn't do that. We were in the field. We'll show

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 10>people the baselines, the benchmarks for both. But we went

0:54:54.020 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 10>through the weekend and wrapping up today. We have a

0:54:57.060 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 10>ton of states coming out. We have our new national

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:03.220
<v Speaker 10>benchmark coming out. But we intentionally I just honestly can't

0:55:03.260 --> 0:55:05.820
<v Speaker 10>believe pollsters did do that right after Labor Day, knowing

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:08.940
<v Speaker 10>a convention was coming, which was historic. Nobody's ever done before.

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:11.859
<v Speaker 10>And given that poll, you know, we've seen polling bumps

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:15.100
<v Speaker 10>with conventions for presidential cycles. I thought the prudent thing

0:55:15.140 --> 0:55:17.380
<v Speaker 10>as a pollster to do was to wait and see

0:55:17.420 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 10>if there was a bump.

0:55:18.340 --> 0:55:19.069
<v Speaker 3>Did you see a bump?

0:55:20.070 --> 0:55:24.890
<v Speaker 10>The bump is very small. It could be noise. We'll see.

0:55:25.969 --> 0:55:28.110
<v Speaker 10>Without a doubt, though, it's small.

0:55:28.310 --> 0:55:30.770
<v Speaker 6>But it was probably a move in the right direction, right?

0:55:30.910 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I got energy listening to RFK Jr. I

0:55:34.580 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 6>think that tweet that I did, his full speech was amazing,

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 6>by the way. Everybody should check it out. I think

0:55:39.580 --> 0:55:41.799
<v Speaker 6>he got like 2 million engagements or something. People were

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:43.969
<v Speaker 6>energized by this stuff. I thought Vance did a great job.

0:55:43.989 --> 0:55:46.529
<v Speaker 6>I thought Don Jr. did a great job. There was

0:55:46.550 --> 0:55:48.650
<v Speaker 6>a lot of good speeches, and it fired me up.

0:55:49.060 --> 0:55:51.259
<v Speaker 6>It actually fired me up. Check this out, Rich.

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:52.860
<v Speaker 3>Can I just say.

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 10>Real quick that there is evidence it did fire up

0:55:56.820 --> 0:55:58.720
<v Speaker 10>a part of the Republican base. There's just no doubt.

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:01.860
<v Speaker 10>We've been tracking them at like 29, 30 percent of

0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.660
<v Speaker 10>the electorate, which is a dive from 40 since November

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 10>of 2024. They're back up to 34. The problem is

0:56:09.460 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 10>the independent vote, and what we need to see is

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 10>that energy start to drift into the independent vote because

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.580
<v Speaker 10>the truth is each party has their own leaners, guys.

0:56:17.620 --> 0:56:20.609
<v Speaker 10>There's a very small amount that's truly independent, and you've

0:56:20.620 --> 0:56:23.149
<v Speaker 10>got to get your energy up first, and then that

0:56:23.290 --> 0:56:26.330
<v Speaker 10>bleeds into your independence, which will shrink the margin that

0:56:26.350 --> 0:56:29.209
<v Speaker 10>your opponent's winning them by. So that's what we have

0:56:29.230 --> 0:56:30.850
<v Speaker 10>to see, and it is moving in the right direction.

0:56:30.870 --> 0:56:31.250
<v Speaker 3>It has.

0:56:31.650 --> 0:56:32.629
<v Speaker 10>Well, that's good.

0:56:32.930 --> 0:56:36.750
<v Speaker 4>Speaking of... energy and all of that rich. So you

0:56:36.790 --> 0:56:39.529
<v Speaker 4>say whether the polls show a bump in the way

0:56:39.570 --> 0:56:42.860
<v Speaker 4>you might in a presidential year, were people watching it?

0:56:42.890 --> 0:56:45.330
<v Speaker 4>Were people, compared to the presidential ones, which it does

0:56:45.390 --> 0:56:48.450
<v Speaker 4>seem get tens of millions of viewers, did a lot

0:56:48.489 --> 0:56:51.580
<v Speaker 4>of people tune in to see those speeches? In particular,

0:56:51.700 --> 0:56:54.779
<v Speaker 4>did people who are not, as Charlie would say, four

0:56:54.820 --> 0:56:57.980
<v Speaker 4>out of four Republicans, did those people tune in and

0:56:58.100 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 4>see what was being said?

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 10>Honestly, Blake, it was compared to a presidential. I think

0:57:02.940 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 10>we expected it to be less, but- not that it's,

0:57:06.460 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 10>it's not as much as if you're on the right,

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:11.360
<v Speaker 10>you would have hoped for, uh, but any amount counts.

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:13.719
<v Speaker 10>I mean, some of these races will be decided by

0:57:13.739 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 10>a half a point, a point. So we may look

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:19.700
<v Speaker 10>back and say, you know what, getting, getting Republicans juiced,

0:57:19.940 --> 0:57:23.590
<v Speaker 10>save that seat, save that district. So, you know, I

0:57:23.630 --> 0:57:25.570
<v Speaker 10>don't want to, um, I don't want to downplay it

0:57:25.610 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 10>at all at this point, you know, and I thought

0:57:27.540 --> 0:57:29.720
<v Speaker 10>the vice president gave a barn burner, too. I thought

0:57:29.740 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 10>it might even be the best speech of his career.

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:33.140
<v Speaker 10>I'd have to go back and look at the clarion again,

0:57:33.180 --> 0:57:36.460
<v Speaker 10>which was also really good. But the president was hilarious.

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:39.140
<v Speaker 10>I totally agree. It was textbook Trump. The meet Tallarico

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 10>thing was hilarious. You know, yeah, you have to juice

0:57:43.180 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 10>your own things first.

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.020
<v Speaker 3>Can't happen overnight. J.D.

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:49.340
<v Speaker 6>Telling that protester with the Mexican flag to get the

0:57:49.390 --> 0:57:50.870
<v Speaker 6>hell out and buy him a plane ticket.

0:57:50.930 --> 0:57:54.230
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was great. So here's an interesting development. I

0:57:54.250 --> 0:57:55.310
<v Speaker 3>did not predict this.

0:57:55.970 --> 0:57:59.930
<v Speaker 6>Remember that the Senate Leadership Fund spent $ 100 million against

0:58:00.510 --> 0:58:05.030
<v Speaker 6>Ken Paxton. $ 100 million. Now, you can't make this stuff up.

0:58:05.190 --> 0:58:08.430
<v Speaker 6>At least now they're coming in with a $ 50. 2 million buy.

0:58:09.010 --> 0:58:12.400
<v Speaker 6>Throw up 168. The current amount of ad spend from

0:58:12.420 --> 0:58:16.100
<v Speaker 6>the Senate Leadership Fund's Texas PAC in the Texas Senate

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 6>race in their markets totals $ 50.

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:17.980
<v Speaker 3>2 million.

0:58:19.260 --> 0:58:22.860
<v Speaker 6>Million that's no joke rich i know it's late the

0:58:22.900 --> 0:58:25.740
<v Speaker 6>day the hour is late but again we're talking about

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.860
<v Speaker 6>incremental half point half point can we get it over

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.100
<v Speaker 6>the top this is a big a big development is

0:58:32.140 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 6>it not.

0:58:32.900 --> 0:58:34.960
<v Speaker 10>It is and you know you're gonna have some people

0:58:34.980 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 10>who are mad or gonna say you know what they

0:58:36.660 --> 0:58:39.140
<v Speaker 10>could have spent 150 if they didn't spend 100 to

0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:42.620
<v Speaker 10>assassinate ken paxton's character right but we are where we

0:58:42.740 --> 0:58:46.360
<v Speaker 10>are guys and i gotta tell you that announcement came

0:58:46.420 --> 0:58:48.940
<v Speaker 10>from weeks of hard work behind the scenes from a

0:58:48.980 --> 0:58:51.360
<v Speaker 10>lot of different people coming at them from all sides,

0:58:51.580 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 10>effectively shaming the Republican establishment class, the donor establishment class,

0:58:56.560 --> 0:59:00.890
<v Speaker 10>shaming them, shaming leaders, and threatening is another way to

0:59:00.910 --> 0:59:03.610
<v Speaker 10>put it. Like, look, if you do this, and I'm

0:59:03.650 --> 0:59:05.750
<v Speaker 10>not going to get into phone calls I have had

0:59:05.790 --> 0:59:08.170
<v Speaker 10>in the past couple of weeks, but I don't care

0:59:08.210 --> 0:59:09.830
<v Speaker 10>if you like Ken Paxton or not. Let me put

0:59:09.870 --> 0:59:11.900
<v Speaker 10>this as clearly as I can to everybody right now.

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<v Speaker 10>Texas is the biggest electoral college vote piece in the

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<v Speaker 10>Republican coalition puzzle. If you lose this Senate race this time,

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<v Speaker 10>you will embolden Democrats. I have seen this story happen

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<v Speaker 10>over the years many times. Virginia, actually, California, Virginia, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 10>and then they become incredibly difficult to come back. Colorado,

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<v Speaker 10>Nevada just came back, and it's a hard battleground state

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<v Speaker 10>each time.

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<v Speaker 3>And Arizona, they were trying to do that to us

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<v Speaker 3>in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 10>We can't afford to lose this state. If you lose it,

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<v Speaker 10>they will go hard for it in 28, and we

0:59:43.180 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 10>don't have very many people that can hold it if

0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:48.300
<v Speaker 10>you want the honest truth. I mean, everyone thinks demographics

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<v Speaker 10>stay at a time. They don't. You know, it would be–

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<v Speaker 10>you need to hold a state.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the line.

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<v Speaker 10>This is the line. Paxton cannot lose this race.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to get Ken on the show this week

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<v Speaker 6>because we want to do our part because it's too important, okay?

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<v Speaker 10>Too important.

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<v Speaker 6>Now let's look at Michigan. Now, you've got– Rogers had

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<v Speaker 6>some polling that showed him up. El-Sayed is dealing with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 6>You've never been bullish on– I just want to– cards

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<v Speaker 6>on the table. But– El Sayed is dealing with some

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<v Speaker 6>nasty Hassan Piker vibes. He's not disavowing him. Everybody asks

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<v Speaker 6>him about that time and time again. He's a smooth talker.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, I saw some tweet. I'm stealing this

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<v Speaker 6>from him, but it's so true. If you watch it,

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<v Speaker 6>and Blake will agree, I'm pretty sure. If you watch

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<v Speaker 6>any Democrat, they're all just trying to do their best

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<v Speaker 6>Obama impersonation. It's all like, yes, bootleg Obama. But Cal

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<v Speaker 6>Rico's doing it. El Sayed's doing it. Hakeem Jeffries does it.

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<v Speaker 6>All of them do it. But El-Sayed, he thinks he

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<v Speaker 6>can be Obama. I just, the good people of Michigan,

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<v Speaker 6>for the love, do not put this guy in. He's

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<v Speaker 6>the biggest snake on the board. And he's, by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>he'll abort children until they're like a year old. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>this is what these guys are doing. Anyways, I know

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<v Speaker 6>you're not bullish on it, but give me the landscape.

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<v Speaker 10>I'll be honest with you, next door, I'm more bullish

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<v Speaker 10>on Minnesota, and I will give you the landscape on Michigan,

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<v Speaker 10>but I really do think there was a poll out

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<v Speaker 10>last week. Everyone got a little shocked because that same

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<v Speaker 10>poll had Florida close, but also had Minnesota close. We're

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<v Speaker 10>going to have Minnesota pretty close, too. I'm just being real.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think it's because, yes, Democrats elected Peggy Flanagan.

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<v Speaker 10>When we were polling for Lindell over the summer, which

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<v Speaker 10>I wish Lindell would have done another poll before the election,

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<v Speaker 10>but when we were polling over the summer, we could

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<v Speaker 10>very clearly see that Angie Craig was a much stronger candidate.

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<v Speaker 10>And by much stronger, I say she was beating Michelle

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<v Speaker 10>Telfoya by like 17 points. And then between Michelle and

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<v Speaker 10>Peggy Flanagan, that race tightened to like low single digits.

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<v Speaker 10>She is a flawed candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a margin of error race?

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<v Speaker 10>In our poll, it's going to be like 5-7. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>bear with me, but it's close, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 4>It's close. Okay.

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<v Speaker 10>And there are third parties on that ballot as well.

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<v Speaker 10>And Minnesota has a long history of voting for third parties. Now,

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<v Speaker 10>the same will be true of Michigan, but this is

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<v Speaker 10>the problem. And Minnesota people could say, well, Rich, it's

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<v Speaker 10>the same thing. It's just that what is the state

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<v Speaker 10>that voted for Bernie Sanders and upset was the biggest

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<v Speaker 10>midterm presidential. Excuse me. It was the biggest presidential primary

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<v Speaker 10>era since Gary Hart in New Hampshire decades before Which

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<v Speaker 10>state shocked the world and voted for Bernie Sanders over

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<v Speaker 10>Hillary Clinton even though she had a huge lead? That

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<v Speaker 10>was the state of Michigan. Which state, many of those

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<v Speaker 10>voters that were openly calling themselves socialists then drifted over

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<v Speaker 10>to Donald Trump instead of voting for the establishment left-wing

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<v Speaker 10>candidate Hillary Clinton in the fall? I mean, it's the

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<v Speaker 10>state of Michigan. The southeastern Michigan is a funny animal, guys.

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<v Speaker 10>And the Ann Arbor area has gotten significantly more liberal

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<v Speaker 10>over time. There's a reason he's not disavowing or whatever

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<v Speaker 10>you want to call it, Assam Piker. And it's because

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<v Speaker 10>there's 140,000, 150,000 Muslim votes there, and they're really pissed

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<v Speaker 10>about the war. And he doesn't want to upset a

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<v Speaker 10>part of his base that he knows he can count

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<v Speaker 10>on to come out. And look, I take this guy

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<v Speaker 10>as a bigger threat than most, I think, because– At

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<v Speaker 10>the end of the day, and we're doing the political

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<v Speaker 10>violence survey again, at the end of the day, Democrats,

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<v Speaker 10>even if they call themselves moderate, they don't cross over.

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<v Speaker 10>They didn't cross over for Mayores for the attorney general's

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<v Speaker 10>race in Virginia. They lied to us about a week

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<v Speaker 10>until two weeks until the election. And they said, I

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<v Speaker 10>may cross over. I may not vote. At the end

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<v Speaker 10>of the day, they did. And they voted for Jay Jones,

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<v Speaker 10>who fantasized about killing his political opponent. The problem with

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<v Speaker 10>El-Sayed that I'm worried about is very much like a

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<v Speaker 10>reverse Donald Trump problem. He's not only going to get

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<v Speaker 10>those voters who can hem and haw all they want,

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<v Speaker 10>but they won't cross over. He's also going to get

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<v Speaker 10>some voters that we don't see coming, and that's my

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<v Speaker 10>fear with El-Sayed. It's my fear with all these DSA candidates.

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<v Speaker 10>The party is a super-majority socialist party, and the media

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<v Speaker 10>doesn't want to talk about it, but it's true. We've

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<v Speaker 10>tracked it longer than anybody. It's like 66% DSA. I

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<v Speaker 10>totally believe that. They're fanatics. Guys, I'm going to really

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<v Speaker 10>quickly tell a story, and I can see the clock

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<v Speaker 10>ticking down. Democrats wiped the floor with Republicans in Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 10>over this last 25 off cycle. They took control of

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<v Speaker 10>school boards. They took control of county supervisors, township supervisors,

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<v Speaker 10>different over there, Commonwealth. They literally put together PBS, not

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<v Speaker 10>exactly Fox News, put together a documentary to talk about

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<v Speaker 10>these school fights over COVID. They use raw power. And

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<v Speaker 10>they just went and canceled it, knowing they could piss

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<v Speaker 10>off Larry over at PBS, knowing they could piss off

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<v Speaker 10>Richard May, who's the director. They didn't care. They said,

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<v Speaker 10>we don't want people to see how nuts we are.

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<v Speaker 10>You're not allowed to do your premiere at the community college.

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<v Speaker 10>So two years is not that long of a time.

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<v Speaker 10>I think we all have forgotten what it's like when

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<v Speaker 10>Democrats govern, and we all need to wake up right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's so true. Our attention spans are like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't forget what they did to us. The $ 5, 000 is going.

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<v Speaker 8>To happen 100%.

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<v Speaker 7>And the reason is because our country is taking in

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<v Speaker 7>trillions and trillions of dollars. And it's going to happen

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<v Speaker 7>because the people deserve it because they were treated so

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<v Speaker 7>badly by the Democrats and by Biden.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, that's President Trump doubling down on something he

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<v Speaker 6>said at the midterm RNC, which is that he if

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<v Speaker 6>we hold the House and the Senate and obviously we've

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<v Speaker 6>got the presidency for two more years, if we keep Control,

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<v Speaker 6>he's going to reward the country with $ 5, 000 dividend checks. Rich,

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<v Speaker 6>question for you. How is that polling? Because as a

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<v Speaker 6>deficit hawk, instantly I'm like, hold on. We can't be

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<v Speaker 6>printing money out of thin air. That's how we got

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<v Speaker 6>ourselves in this mess. But for normies, and they hear, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>it's maybe $ 5, 000 for me, $ 5, 000 for.

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<v Speaker 3>My spouse, that's $ 10, 000. That could make a big difference

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<v Speaker 3>in normal people's lives. Is it play well?

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<v Speaker 10>Look, first, the idea of it, it does. Now, 5K

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<v Speaker 10>is not 2K. And I was talking to Mark Mitchell

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<v Speaker 10>about this. We had both done the 2K one last year.

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<v Speaker 10>And most people actually said, at $ 2, 000, just give it

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<v Speaker 10>back to the Treasury and help pay down the deficit.

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<v Speaker 10>5K is a little different. And I think that there's

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of people that are in a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>trouble and hurting pretty badly in this country. I just

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<v Speaker 10>quote tweeted the president's uh, post about this on, on

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<v Speaker 10>true social with generally like just the reality of it,

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<v Speaker 10>which is, I don't think it's a good policy either.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 10>But it is good politics and we're in deep trap.

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<v Speaker 10>We're in deep crap. So, you know, Democrats are going

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<v Speaker 10>to come in and they're going to try to talk

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<v Speaker 10>about freebies up and down Andrew. So until we learn

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<v Speaker 10>how to slide back the, you know, like the new deal.

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<v Speaker 10>And until we learn how to slide back this culture

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<v Speaker 10>that is taking root in our country, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>they might as well just line up behind Trump because

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<v Speaker 10>let me tell you what the voters said on this.

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<v Speaker 10>Couple of things. One is a credibility issue, which is

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<v Speaker 10>why Republicans should get back to Congress and lean into

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<v Speaker 10>what the president's saying and try to actually pass something

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<v Speaker 10>to make it look like they're behind him in something,

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<v Speaker 10>some way, shape or form, because there's a credibility issue.

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<v Speaker 10>And people said, look, Republicans promised us this a few

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<v Speaker 10>times already and we didn't get it. The other thing

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<v Speaker 10>that people said was, you know, like as far as

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<v Speaker 10>that argument, you know, in response to what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 10>people would be would respond like very simply. If you

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<v Speaker 10>can write a blank check to a government, this government,

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<v Speaker 10>that government, Ukraine, Israel, you can give me 5K. If

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<v Speaker 10>you can give corporations who are making billions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 10>Fortune 500 companies, all of these tax breaks, you can

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<v Speaker 10>give me 5K. And I know that's not what conservatives

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<v Speaker 10>want to hear.

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<v Speaker 9>I know.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's sort of like bad policy, good politics to

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<v Speaker 6>sum it up.

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<v Speaker 10>You know where I am on this myself, brother. It's

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<v Speaker 10>bad policy.

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<v Speaker 4>What a worry rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It may pull well. It may even– maybe it could

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<v Speaker 4>bail us out on this one. Do you worry it's–

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<v Speaker 4>for lack of a better idiom, it's eating the seed

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<v Speaker 4>corn of politics, that it does feel like 5K for everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the figure was a $ 1. 5 trillion total figure.

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<v Speaker 4>The Republicans probably won't pass that next year even if

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<v Speaker 4>they win, and then you'd go into 28, and the

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<v Speaker 4>number one thing they can say is, well, they lied

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<v Speaker 4>about that, and you're just– you're screwed.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, that I mean, that's ultimately a problem with the

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<v Speaker 10>Republican Party, though. I mean, of course, I do worry

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<v Speaker 10>about that. But I think I worry more that we're

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<v Speaker 10>going to lose, you know, and they're going to do

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<v Speaker 10>this period. They're going to do that and worse. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>but Blake, I just did an interview with Newt Gingrich

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<v Speaker 10>before me was another gentleman. I actually didn't look at it.

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't realize how fast we're approaching 50 trillion. And

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<v Speaker 10>then listening to the gentleman on what is pushing that.

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<v Speaker 10>And conservatives love to talk about the nanny state, which

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<v Speaker 10>is true. And rightfully, you know, right. they should. But

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<v Speaker 10>the military spending in this country, the military-industrial complex is

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<v Speaker 10>raping this country, and most people aren't going to care

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<v Speaker 10>about the debt that's being racked up from Social Security

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<v Speaker 10>or some healthcare program. when there's all of this money

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<v Speaker 10>that nobody ever even dares to talk about touching. So

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<v Speaker 10>we're going to lose this argument and then lose these elections,

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<v Speaker 10>and then it's just going to be you know, free

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<v Speaker 10>money for everybody until the thing comes crashing down. So,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, it's unfortunate product of where we are right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We still got to balance the budget.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm committed to that completely as a conservative, but bad policy, good,

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<v Speaker 6>good politics.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Second thing, they're attributing this to JD Vance. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>sure what the backstory is, but he's, he's saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>let's provide some money to, you know, married couples where

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<v Speaker 6>the mom stays at home. The dad goes to work,

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<v Speaker 6>and instead of sending your kids to government-run daycare centers,

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<v Speaker 6>this is going to help offset some of the costs

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<v Speaker 6>for working families.

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<v Speaker 3>Thoughts on that? Good policy? Good politics?

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<v Speaker 10>Listen, if it's what I heard the vice president talking about,

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<v Speaker 10>and I'm just being clear because you said I'm not

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<v Speaker 10>sure whether they're attributing this to him, but I did

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<v Speaker 10>hear something that he said that is on this policy,

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<v Speaker 10>and if it's that, then that's ladder politics, clear as

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<v Speaker 10>can be. And I know you can't read the title

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<v Speaker 10>right there, but we're just in the period, guys, the

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<v Speaker 10>age of ideology is over. So this idea that we're

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<v Speaker 10>going to roll back the clock with conservative principles, it's

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<v Speaker 10>just not going to happen. So we don't have to

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<v Speaker 10>give people a handout, but there is a difference between

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<v Speaker 10>a handout and a hand up. And given the deficit

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<v Speaker 10>that we put young people and young families in through

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<v Speaker 10>no fault of their own, let's be real, they didn't

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<v Speaker 10>stack on. Like young millennial family didn't stack on this

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<v Speaker 10>trillions and trillions in debt. They didn't put these programs together.

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<v Speaker 10>Until we handle that and address that, then it's just

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<v Speaker 10>going to be the reality of our world. You try

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<v Speaker 10>to talk about tax cuts for corporations that are going

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<v Speaker 10>to give– yes, it does.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes.

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<v Speaker 10>This has long been a winning issue. I remember Ivanka

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<v Speaker 10>and Trump 1.0, the president's daughter, tried to do something similar.

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<v Speaker 10>She got met with a lot of resistance from the

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<v Speaker 10>traditional conservative wing of the party. And it hurt them.

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<v Speaker 10>It hurt them. You know, it hurts their brand because

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<v Speaker 10>their voters are left wondering who controls this party. What

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<v Speaker 10>do you guys believe in?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I get it. I worry that we're confusing

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<v Speaker 3>people about our principles. I really do. We are. We

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<v Speaker 3>also we also have a midterm to win. And so

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<v Speaker 3>we got to figure this out. So I want to

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<v Speaker 3>go through the issues.

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<v Speaker 6>OK, now AI data centers flock cameras. Now, after watching

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<v Speaker 6>the vandalism to Charlie's camera. like all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 6>i'm like do we have flock cameras around here mp

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<v Speaker 6>got rid of them relatively recently but but the my

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<v Speaker 6>question is if you're gonna support them all right so

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<v Speaker 6>here's my idea on flock cameras if you have a

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<v Speaker 6>per capita murder rate over a certain amount then you

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<v Speaker 6>get flock cameras okay that like deal with that for.

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<v Speaker 10>Crime stat yeah crime stat yeah this is where i

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<v Speaker 10>was going to go with this honestly and i think

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<v Speaker 10>maybe this may be you know uh Surprising for some

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<v Speaker 10>people to hear, but I have my pollster hat on

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<v Speaker 10>and then I have my own views. I know a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of people will instantly look at it like, oh,

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<v Speaker 10>it's a surveillance state. Not if it's not hurting your

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<v Speaker 10>own people. This is politics. You reward people who vote

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<v Speaker 10>for you and support you, and you don't care about

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<v Speaker 10>the rest if they're never going to support you. This

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<v Speaker 10>should be in urban areas of high crime. Look, guys,

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<v Speaker 10>look what happened with GoPros and body cams for police

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<v Speaker 10>officers and ICE. We can't even support somebody without them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, but again, it's like we try to talk

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<v Speaker 10>about these issues.

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<v Speaker 3>But do they poll well, Rich? Do they poll well?

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<v Speaker 10>They only poll reasonably well is if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 10>them in urban areas to prevent crime. They don't poll

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<v Speaker 10>well everywhere because people are like, well, this is another

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<v Speaker 10>red light idea.

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<v Speaker 3>15 seconds, Rich.

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<v Speaker 6>Data centers, if you– proposition that they bring down energy

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<v Speaker 6>costs at the same time does that flip the script

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<v Speaker 6>because they're very unpopular.

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<v Speaker 10>You gotta couple that with the idea of like the

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<v Speaker 10>nuclear age the debate over the nuclear age people didn't

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<v Speaker 10>want them but then we fell behind you gotta have

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<v Speaker 10>both otherwise it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 6>Rich barris burn it down author burn it down check

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<v Speaker 6>out his book today with joshua lysik rich you're the

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<v Speaker 6>man we'll talk.

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<v Speaker 10>To you soon thanks guys all the best For more

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