1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Hi there, and welcome to another episode of the Praying 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: Christian Women podcast. I'm Jamie Hampton and I'm so excited 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: to welcome back to the podcast, Becca Y. Becca is 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: the fertility awareness educator. She's a certified hormone coach. She 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: is the host of the podcast for the Love of Hormones. 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: And I'm so happy, just personally and selfishly to have 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: you on the podcast, Becca, because I know like me, 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and they're just countless other women out there that are 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: just puzzled by hormones. Maybe they are struggling mightily with hormones. 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: I don't know a single person who's just like I 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: love my hormones. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: And what I love about you is you flip the script. 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: You get us to see hormones and our femininity and 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: our different seasons of life through godglasses, to see them 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: as a blessing and God designed. So thank you for 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: being here again to talk about hormones. 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm so excited to be here. Our last conversation 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: was so fun and I know I was like out 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: of breath. I think that was the last interview I 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: did before I had my own baby. 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: How old is your baby now? 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: He's ten? Months. 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: So that's so fun. Yeah, yeah, all. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: Right, Well, we always check in about what's your favorite 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: prayer closet? And I know you answered back then. Okay, 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: let me see if I can remember. Did you have 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: a prayer chair? 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Was that I did? Okay? 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: I thought I remember that because I also do and did. 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: But what is your favorite prayer closet these days? 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Has it changed? Has it stayed the same? You're still 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: my blue chair? 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: My chair? Oh yeah, it's still my blue chair. I 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: you know, have my time where I sit down there 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: in the mornings before all the crazy starts and try 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: to ground myself in the Lord for the day. So 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: stay still the same, same blue chair. 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: I love it. That's awesome. 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: Well, for listeners who may not be familiar with your 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: work or who didn't listen to our last podcast episode, 42 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: could you just share a little bit about your own 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: journey and just kind of how God led you to 44 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: get in the realm of fertility and hormones in kind 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: of a Christian context. 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah. I mean I've been a believer since I 48 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: was I could talk, so since I was three years old. 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: I think I was praying for Jesus to be in 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: my heart and just loving him my whole life. And 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: while I loved Jesus my whole life, I didn't really 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: understand how he created me. I didn't understand the depths 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: of what he meant when he said that I am 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: fearfully and wonderfully made. So I was on birth control 55 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: for fourteen years before marriage, during the first several years 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: of marriage, not understanding what it was doing to my body. 57 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: When we went off of that, we were very blessed 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: to conceive within a few months, kind of blessed, but 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: definitely blessed. But also I wish I would have known 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: about what post birth control syndrome was. I wish I 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: would have known how to get my body more healthy 62 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: before conceiving. But I mean, I want to change anything now. 63 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: I love my son, who was conceived post birds control. 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: He's incredible, such a gift. But we had our first 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: two children, two boys, without me even being able to 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: tell you what ovulation was and really how they got there. 67 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: Aside from me and my husband loving each other, I 68 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: really couldn't tell you the specifics of how it happened. 69 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: You know, what my eggs were and what ovulation was, 70 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: the follicular phase, cervical mucus, like all the things that 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: were going into it. There was no way I could 72 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: have expressed that, but we were blessed with them. And 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: then we had three d miscarriages in a row. We 74 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: had a fifteen week loss and then we had two 75 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: chemical pregnancies after that. And it was after the third 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: loss that my husband and I were just like, we 77 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: have got to figure out what is going on, Like 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: I cannot go through this again. So I say that 79 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: we tucked our tails and went to our Catholic friends 80 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: and were like, what are you guys doing to somehow 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: space out your children? We know you're not using birth control? 82 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: What are y'all doing? And they talked to. 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: Us about fertility awareness methods and I thought it was 84 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: like the craziest thing. I was like, there's no way 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: that works, Like what in the world And they were 86 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: talking to us about all this stuff and it was 87 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: just way over my head. But I started reading and 88 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: researching it's just part of my personality. And we started 89 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: applying one of the fertility awareness methods. We learned that 90 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: through a course, and we started using it to avoid 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 3: pregnancy for a season so that we could figure out 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: what was going on with my body. Why did I 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: keep losing our babies? You know what was wrong? And 94 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: we did find some root issues that were going on, 95 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: so learning about fertility awareness and then I got myself 96 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: a hormone coach. She's actually the founder of the FIAT Institute, 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: and that's who I'm certified as a hormone coach through. 98 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: So basically all the things that helped me in my 99 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: healing journey is what I'm certified to help others and 100 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: now because it was so impactful for me. But we 101 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: did our healing journey for about six months and then 102 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: we felt really good about what my cycle charts were 103 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: telling us, how my hormones were looking, how my ovulation 104 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: was looking, and we got pregnant again with our we 105 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: called our Triple Rainbow baby. It was a beautiful pregnant 106 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: scene and a beautiful birth, all natural, two hour home birth. 107 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: In the shower. 108 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: It was crazy, and so that's kind of what led 109 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: me on this journey. We did end up having another 110 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: baby as well, and that's a whole other story, but 111 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: that's kind of what got me into supporting women in 112 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: their hormones, in their fertility and in God's design for it. 113 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: I love that and I'm still stuck on what is 114 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever heard of post birth control syndrome? 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Is that what you called it? Yes, I don't think 116 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: we talked about this. Maybe we did, but I don't 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: think we did because I don't This is new to me. 118 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: So can you either refresh my groundhog day brain? Or 119 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: it was something brand new? 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: What is that? And what does that look like? I 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: didn't even know it existed. 122 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So when a woman gets off of birth control, 123 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: whether she's been on it for like a few weeks 124 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: or a couple of years or a decade like me, 125 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: we are considered post birth control syndrome. And what this 126 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: means is we recognize and understand that being on the 127 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: pill or other types of birth control, be vud M plant, whatever, 128 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: it does several things to our bodies. It depletes our 129 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: bodies of vital nutrients. So it's depleting our bodies of 130 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: vitamins and minerals and also our bodies capability and capacity 131 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: to be able to absorb vitamins and minerals. So when 132 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: someone says, well, I eat so healthy, like, I don't 133 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: know why I'm feeling this bad, or I don't know 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: why my periods are so out of whack or I 135 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: don't know why I'm not getting pregnant. That's immediately one 136 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: of the questions I think of is, hey, have you 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: been on birth control in the past, because that it 138 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: really kind of messes with our bodies natural capacity for nutrient, 139 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: vitamin and mineral absorption. So that's one of the things 140 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: that the pill does to us or birth control. The 141 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: other thing is it increases a lot of inflammation, so 142 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: that can look like, you know, maybe more painful periods. 143 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: It can look like getting headaches, being tired, having joint pain, 144 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: breast tenderness, those types of things. The birth control it's 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: also been shown to kind of wreck our thyroid and 146 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: wreck our gut health. So anytime someone's been on birth 147 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: control and they're wanting to get pregnant, my very first 148 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: go to is like, hey, get a full thyroid panel. 149 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: Run I have one. If your listeners, go to Becca 150 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: Yon dot com slash thyroid labs. It's like an amazing 151 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: handout that has here are what thyroid labs to ask 152 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: your doctor for, and here are the functional ranges. Because 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: they're going to be more narrow ranges than what the 154 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: conventional medicine hospital ranges are for the thyroid, and they're 155 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: going to be more tests because typically if you ask 156 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: your doctor to do a thyroid test, they'll check your 157 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: TSH and maybe your T four and that's all they're checking. 158 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: But that doesn't give us a full picture as to 159 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: what your thyroid's actually doing. Now, I'm not claiming that 160 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: I or you or your listener can like go and 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: get this thyroid test and get the results back and 162 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: know what to do with it, but you can at 163 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: least look at the results and compare them to functional ranges, 164 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: and if all of your ranges are within functional ranges, 165 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: your golden and if they're not, you need to go 166 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 3: get more help, so from someone who's really specialized in that. 167 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: And it's probably unless you have one of the three 168 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: percent amazing OBEs who have additional training or family physicians, 169 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: they're probably not going to be able to help you 170 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 3: if you're in between the functional and conventional ranges, if 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: that makes sense. So anyways, that's a whole rabbit hole. 172 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: But that's one of the things that bird control really 173 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: impacts us on, and our thyroid health is critical for 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: a healthy pregnancy and for avoiding the miscas that was 175 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: one of the issues I was dealing with was what 176 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: was my thigh riid in the miscarriages, And I'd been 177 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: on the pill for a long time somehow it kind 178 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: of it was probably just enough and just okay. For 179 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: my first two pregnancies. I was actually put on thyroid 180 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: medication in them, and then I think I lost my 181 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: medication when we were in between moves and our lives 182 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 3: were so crazy, and I didn't have that educational foundational 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: knowledge of like, girl, your thyroid health is critical, like 184 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: you can't neglect it. And so I wasn't on any 185 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 3: medication when I was pregnant, and that was one of 186 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: the issues that contributed to my miscarriages. So the other 187 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: thing about post birth control syndrome is it really impacts 188 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: our cycles. So oftentimes our cycles can look like maybe 189 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: we're not ovulating, or they can look irregular, or they 190 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: can even look like it's it's no longer called PCOS, 191 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: it's now called PMOS, but it can look like those 192 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: irregular type cycles. But it can be caused just from 193 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: be post pill. It doesn't mean that we have that 194 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: diagnoses necessarily. Where we have that issue we're dealing with, 195 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: it's just because of the after effects of the pill 196 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: that can last for up to a year. So that's 197 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: post bird control syndrome. 198 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 199 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: You So for those that don't know PCOS, that's polycystic 200 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: ovary syndrome. 201 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and statistic ovarian syndrome. And now it's called PMOS. 202 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: It's something about poly something metabolic. Okay, they're changing the 203 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: C to the end because they're recognizing that this is 204 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: a metabolic function in the body which may. 205 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:41,119 Speaker 2: Cause so much multiple cysts of eggs basically multiple ovulation, 206 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: and then cysts that don't rupture and ovulate, they just 207 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: kind of fester and cause pain. Is that kind of 208 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: what happens. 209 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: That's one of the types. So that can be it, 210 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 3: but you can still have it even if you're not 211 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: having like the string of pearls or specific ovarian issues. 212 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: Lot of it can be that metabolic stuff that's going on. 213 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: Like we're insulin resistant and we're not tolerating carbohydrates or sugars, 214 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: and so our body is kind of going a little 215 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: bit crazy with our blood sugar. 216 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: And our insulin. 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: And so now the new NAN is more reflected, more 218 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: reflective and encompassing of the different issues that it can encompass. 219 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the polycystic part is a symptom of the 220 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: metabolic underlying issue, which causes other things too, So it's 221 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: just a little bit more all encompassing, right, very interesting. 222 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: I did not know. I do know. So I was 223 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: on birth control. 224 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: We got married and didn't I didn't go off until 225 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: probably five years, five six years something like that, and 226 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: it was okay, like I didn't have any I didn't 227 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: think I had any bad symptoms. I know some people 228 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: who just hated the way it made them feel. I 229 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: wasn't quite like that. But it's interesting because I cyclically, 230 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: I was thinking, what am I eating that's giving me 231 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: food poisoning every month. I don't know why it wouldn't 232 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: occur to me because I guess I didn't know it 233 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: was every month because I wasn't charting my cycle at 234 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: the time. I'm just taking the birth control. I was 235 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: pretty clockwork with my cycle. But I didn't make that 236 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: connection until perimenopause, which is now when I've been getting 237 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: cyclical migraines and throwing up because of the migraines. But 238 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: I was I was throwing up and getting sick about 239 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: once a month for I don't know. 240 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: It was probably about a year maybe or a little 241 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: bit less. 242 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: But it wasn't as bad as the migraines, and my 243 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: symptoms weren't as bad of a headache as just I 244 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: would be at work and I'd have to run to 245 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: a bucket and throw up. And at first I thought, 246 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: am I pregnant? But I still didn't associate it with that. 247 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: But I think it was due to the pill and 248 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: my auta WAC hormones that caused that kind of thing. 249 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: And I'm sure if I had been aware that being 250 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: on the pill did other things to your body, which 251 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: of course it does, but I just wasn't thinking about 252 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: it because it's just what you do, right. I just 253 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: I would not have put two and two together that 254 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: that it was disrupting my body so terribly much. I 255 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: just kind of took it on faith that this is 256 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: what we do when we don't want to have kids 257 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: and we're married, right, So very interesting. But I ended 258 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: up meeting a Catholic friend who gave me some advice 259 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: and got me a book that was kind of charting 260 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: your cycle using At that time, it was you know, 261 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: in the Stone Ages, so it was like but you know, 262 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: using like a basal body thermometer and like hand charting 263 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: your at the same time every day what your temperature was. 264 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: But there's so many more things you can do now 265 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: which are pretty amazing. I actually I thought i'd bring 266 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: up to you. I got this. I think it's called 267 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: it's called Mirra. It's I'm like, on day seven, have 268 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: you heard of this? It's yes, What are your thoughts 269 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: on it? It's yeah, horma. It tracks your hormones. I 270 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: pian a stick every morning and it has confirmed what 271 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: I suspected in terms of what's going on day to 272 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: day at the moment, and I'm really hoping I haven't 273 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: had a migraine at the same time as I've been 274 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: using it. I had one the week before and I 275 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: was like, I've got a break down. I need to 276 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: know what's going on with my hormones on a daily basis. 277 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not one hundred percent accurate, but in 278 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: terms of the relative amounts and my FSH being pretty 279 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: high and just you know, all the rest being pretty low, 280 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: it's giving me some insights into what my body's doing. 281 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 282 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the mirror is wonderful mirror and you know, they 283 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: both kind of do the same thing. And I think 284 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: it's a wonderful tool in addition to use to help 285 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: figure out what's going on. I still I'm always a 286 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: proponent of tracking your cervical mucus and learning that from 287 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: a fertility awareness method because that's the most effective biomarker 288 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: we can have. But it's an awesome tool to add 289 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: in addition. 290 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and to clarify, I am very very irregular. 291 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: I'm late perimenopausal, so I'm you know, I've gone over 292 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: one hundred days at one point without having a period. 293 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: I have gone thirty days sometimes, but I'm definitely in 294 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: the waning phases of all of that, and this would 295 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: not be good to use as reliable birth control, just 296 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: for anyone listening, you know, don't use something like this 297 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: and assume it's going to be like you know exactly. So, yeah, 298 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: I just want to put that disclaimer out there and 299 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: always see a physician to kind of support some of 300 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: these decisions, or a fertility. 301 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: Aware physician very important, yeah, because they might just tell 302 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: you to stay on bird control, so right, exactly, Yeah right, Yeah, No, 303 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: that's a beautiful tool to use to kind of confirm. 304 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll use a tool like that to confirm what 305 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: I think my hormones are doing in addition to my tracking, 306 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: and it's really helpful to see. But yeah, it sounds 307 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: like your hormones are low and you need a little help. 308 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: Everything's kind of whining back down. 309 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: It is. 310 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: And I mean I actually went on HRT because when 311 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: you get your blood work done. Also for people to know, 312 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: when you go into the doctor, you get blood work ordered, 313 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: you go in and get the blood work done. It's 314 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: a snapshot in time. One time I got my blood 315 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: work done, my estrogen was like six hundred and something, 316 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: another time it was like twenty or you know, in 317 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: the same cycle, you're gonna fluctuate wildly. But I have 318 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: basically been in the kind of perimenopausal phase of thinking 319 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: that I might need extra estrogen. But at the same time, 320 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: when I went on it, my estrogen was up and 321 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: down so much that it made me sicker at first, 322 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: and then she kind of tapered it down to the 323 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: point where Anyway, long story short, I went off of 324 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: it to kind of reassess if I need it, but 325 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: I will be probably looking into it just to try 326 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: and give it a boost. But anyway, we'll talk later. 327 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: Sounds good, Yeah, I might be soliciting your services. But anyway, 328 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: let's bring this back around to kind of a biblical mindset. 329 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: So how I don't know, I don't even where to start. 330 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: I would say, what does it mean to you that 331 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: women reflect the image of God through all different seasons 332 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: of life? That's kind of what you wanted to come 333 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: back on to talk about, is this different seasons of life, 334 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: how we as women reflect the image of God. 335 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on that? Yeah? 336 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, well, you know, in the very beginning in Genesis 337 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: it says God created man in his own image, male 338 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 3: and female. He created them and the image of God 339 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: he created them. And so when we look at our 340 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: sweet husbands or brothers in Christ, like, oh yeah, they 341 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: totally reflect the image of God in the male way. Right, 342 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: So we get to see elements and you know, when 343 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: I think of I'll give it to you this way. 344 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: So there was a picture one time when I was 345 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: sitting in a coffee shop that I just sat and 346 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 3: I just looked at it and. 347 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: I thought, Ah, this is what it. 348 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: Means for God to reflect himself in creation. It was 349 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 3: this beautiful picture of it was in the mountains of 350 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 3: this waterfall and the waterfall with the way that the 351 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: photographer captured it. I have a little bit of photography background, 352 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: so like it was like a slow type shot, so 353 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: the water just looked like it was glistening and streaming, 354 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: like this smooth, fluid, beautiful breadth of water just flowing down, 355 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: and then all around it were these like let's hear, 356 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: how would I describe it? It's so hard, It's a 357 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 3: picture's worth a thousand words, right, so bear with me. 358 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: But like really strong, hard crisp rocks and boulders that 359 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 3: had like lots of like dibbots, and I don't know, 360 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: they're rustic and they're they're big, and they're heavy and 361 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: they're strong, and they're like holding up this beautiful, like weightless, 362 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: free flowing fluid water. And I just look at this picture, 363 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: and of course there's like trees and all of this, 364 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: and I'm like, ah, this is God like reflecting himself 365 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: in this masculine and feminine design. And we see it 366 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: not just I think in you know, in boys and girls, 367 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: in men and women. We also can see it in 368 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: his creation. In his creation, we see like strong, hefty, 369 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: like rock solid, incredible things in creation, and then we 370 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: see like absolute, pristine, soft fluid beauty, you know, like 371 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: the soft, delicate flower. I'm not saying all women are 372 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: like delicate flowers, right, but we certainly, you know, promote 373 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: some kind of essence like that. And then there's essences 374 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 3: of men as well that are different. We are just different, 375 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: and so I want to I just want to acknowledge 376 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: our men because they're wonderful and they're incredible, and anytime 377 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: we talk about some of the feminine stuff, I don't 378 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: want them to feel like, well, well I'm not cool, Like, no, 379 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 3: you are so cool, you know, in the way that 380 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: you reflect God. And then I someone to talk about 381 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: how we as women and girls reflect the image of 382 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: God in such a much different way than men. So 383 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: when we think about women and how God created us, 384 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: I think in each of our different seasons and stages 385 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: of life, we are reflecting God in a different way, 386 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: which is really cool because it's so different from men. 387 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: Men from the time they become fertile when they're teenagers 388 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 3: and their sperm is you know, and testosterone are rock 389 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: and and rolling. They're fertile till they die, and it's 390 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: just pretty straightforward. They get a daily cycle of testosterone 391 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: and cortisol, and it's high in the morning and it 392 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: goes lower throughout the day, and it can be boosted 393 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: by certain events like being around other guys, watching in 394 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: an action movie, seeing a gun, you know, like that's 395 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: the guy. Pretty simple, pretty straightforward, you know, pretty awesome. 396 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: But then we have the woman who is so complicated 397 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: and different and complex, and not only does she rhythmically 398 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: cycle through hormones on more like a monthly basis, she 399 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: also rhythmically cycles through her hormonal patterns throughout her throughout 400 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: her life. From the time that she reaches menarchy, which 401 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: is when she has her first period, her hormones are 402 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: doing a lot of interesting things, and then you know, 403 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: she kind of transitions from having these irregular cycles to 404 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: eventually becoming more regular over you know, maybe a year 405 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: or two or maybe three. It takes three or four 406 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: years for them to get regular, and then she reaches 407 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: this stage of being in her reproductive years. So the 408 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: reproductive years are pretty straightforward. You typically would have regular 409 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: cycles somewhat predictable, but there's still if you don't understand 410 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: what's going on within that cycle, it can be confusing. 411 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: And then her fertility clock starts winding down, and she 412 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: starts entering into perimenopause, where she's still fertile, but the 413 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: fertility is slowing down. And then she enters into menopause, 414 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: where the fertility cycle is quiet and silence. But now 415 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: she's in these wisdom bearing years. And so when we 416 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: think about the image of God in each of these pays, 417 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: is menarchy, the reproductive years, perimenopause, and menopause. In menarchy, 418 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: I see the image of God of this awakening of fertility. 419 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: And when we think of God, he is the creator 420 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 3: of life. He's the creator of all life. And when 421 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: a girl goes from being a girl to starting to 422 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: turn and transform into a woman who can, who is 423 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: physically capable of having life created in her, it's this 424 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: beautiful start to reflecting God in his creator capacity. So 425 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: it's a really cool and exciting time. And I want 426 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: that language to be received by mothers and their young 427 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: teenage daughters of not fear and terror. But oh, this 428 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: is so cool because she is awakening into a woman, 429 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: a fertile woman who is reflecting God in this creative capacity. 430 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: And then in our reproductive years, there's lots of beauty. 431 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: Maybe we're choosing to be reproductive, or maybe we're not, 432 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: maybe we're not married yet, But no matter what, I 433 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 3: could talk a lot about the hormones in these phases 434 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: and how they reflect God's image, but I want to 435 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: focus a little bit on the fertility aspect of it. 436 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: When a woman does physically conceive, she is literally like 437 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: a walking, breathing image of how God has created all 438 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: of us, of how God is creator. She is a 439 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: testimony to that. And when she delivers and goes into 440 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 3: labor for this child, she is reflecting God in another 441 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: way for how God. You know, I think a lot 442 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: there's a lot of Old Testament imagery, and there's still 443 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: also a lot of in the New Testament. But when 444 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: we think of God and his pursuit of the Israelites 445 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: and his love for the Israelites, I think it's in 446 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: Isaiah forty six he says, I have carried you. So 447 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: I think of a mother carrying her child like I 448 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: have carried you. You know, when you think of a 449 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: mom carrying her child and pregnancy, you're like, Wow, that 450 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: woman has so much love, she has so much capacity 451 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: and strength to be doing what she's doing, and she's 452 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: reflecting how God does that for us. He carries us. 453 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: He has so much love and capacity and strength for us. 454 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: And then in Isaiah forty six says, I have carried you, 455 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: I will bear you, I will deliver you. And so 456 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: you know, as a woman goes through labor pains, these 457 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: are the pains that God experienced when the Israelites turned 458 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: away from him. Of like, this woman still loves her baby. 459 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: She has an unconditional love for this baby. But it's 460 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: going through pain and suffering and sorrow and this experience. 461 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: And that's a whole other conversation as well, for like 462 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: why we experience it in that way. But that is 463 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: what God experienced for us in pursuing us. He experienced 464 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 3: a lot of sorrow and suffering and us turning away 465 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 3: from him, and the Israelites turning away from him and 466 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: worshiping other gods after all that he had done for them. 467 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 3: And you know, a woman actually giving birth, that is 468 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: what God has done for us. He has given us 469 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 3: new life in Jesus Christ. And I mean, man, I 470 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: also I'm a birth do love and I'm like, there 471 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: is nothing like a new life coming into the world 472 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: to represent the power and majesty of God and Jesus 473 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: Christ then a baby being born. It is the most awesome, 474 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: incredible thing and it totally makes me think of like, whoa, 475 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: this is what Jesus does for us. You know, we 476 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: were buried in our sins, we were dead in our sins, 477 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: and then He delivered us and he gave us our 478 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: first breath and he gave us new life. And so 479 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: as a woman does this in this physical world, we 480 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: get to see that spiritual aspect of God. You know, 481 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: I could keep talking about breastfeeding in postpartum and how 482 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 3: that reflects God's image of how he nourishes us and 483 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: he sees us and he hears us, and he takes 484 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: care of us, and he hears our every whimper, our 485 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: every cryer, every need. And the mother who is nursing 486 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 3: her child and taking care of her child is reflecting 487 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 3: God in that way. 488 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: And it's so cool. 489 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 3: There's a lot of tenderness in God. There's a lot 490 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: of tenderness that I think we just don't think about. 491 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 3: But if you've been a mother, or if you've watched 492 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: a mother with her child, or you've been with your child, 493 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: and the tenderness and the sweetness and the oh, like, 494 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: I love you so much That's how God feels for us. 495 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: And it's kind of crazy to think about, but it's 496 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: very very special and tender and sacred. And the woman 497 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: is reflecting that and representing that now as she moves 498 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: on into and I do want to hit a note 499 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 3: of what if I have not been able to have children, 500 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: or what if I won't be able to have children, 501 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: what if I don't have children? We reflect the Lord, Like, yes, 502 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: being pregnant and having children physically is one representation of, 503 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: you know, bearing the image of God. But every single 504 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: one of us as woman, whether we have children or not, 505 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: we have maternal capacities to serve everyone that the Lord 506 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: has put within our reach, our friends, our mothers, our sisters, 507 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: you know, volunteering in high school ministry, middle school ministry, 508 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 3: you know, you know, for kids in foster care or whatever. 509 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: Like. 510 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: We have maternal capacity and that is so reflected in 511 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 3: our hormones. And so one does not need to experience 512 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: pregnancy and birth and having their own child to feel 513 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: like she's fulfilling God's image. She should be doing that 514 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 3: since before you have children, I remember, you know, I 515 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: was in my college years and I remember just being 516 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: burdened and crying of like I don't know if I'm 517 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: going to be able to have kids, and feeling how 518 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: sad that was. But looking back and on that time, 519 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: I was serving so hardcore in such a maternal motherly way, 520 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: like they always call me Mama Beck even when I 521 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: was in high school, because I was just always like 522 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, taking care of everyone and making sure 523 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: everyone was you know, that fighting taken care of and 524 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, just we have this instinct, we have nurturing 525 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: maternal instincts, and that should be implemented one hundred percent 526 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 3: of the time, whether we have kids or not. It 527 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be our own physical kids. I would 528 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 3: a million percent stand by that God wants us to 529 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 3: take care of the orphans, and there are plenty out there, 530 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: whether they are physically orphaned or they're spiritually orphaned, or 531 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: they're needing that maternal care that God has given in 532 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: all of us. So I just wanted to hit on 533 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: that because we're because God's not leaving any of us out. 534 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 3: We are reflecting His image in all of these different ways. 535 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: As we move into perimenopause, it's a really cool season. 536 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: I know there's lots of like, oh my gosh, this sucks, 537 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: like what is happening, But let's talk about the beauty 538 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: in it. Because if we're looking at our fertility as 539 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: this clock like for men are key, it's like the 540 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: clock just started kind of ticking and it was just 541 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: kind of getting used to things. And then in the 542 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: reproductive years it's going, it's rocking, it's rolling, and then 543 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: in perimenopause we start imagining this clock starts to TikTok 544 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 3: more slowly. So we are still in these fertility bearing, 545 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: maternal nurturing years, and we have more years that we 546 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: have lived, we have more wisdom, we have more experience. 547 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: So it's like we have one of our feet is 548 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: in the fertility reproductive bearing years because we are still 549 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: fertile at times and just not as frequently, and we 550 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 3: have another foot in our wisdom bearing years. And so 551 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: we kind of get to play this both and role 552 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: of I am both mother, you know, whether that's to 553 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: physical or spiritual children, and I am acting in that way, 554 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: and I'm becoming even more of a spiritual mother in 555 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: the wisdom that God has given me from my years 556 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 3: and years of experience of being a wife or a 557 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: mother or a spiritual mind and then as we move 558 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 3: into menopause, then it's like we are fully living in 559 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: our wisdom, bearing and giving years. 560 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: Our reproductive crazy. 561 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: And beauty stops. Everything is quiet, just like it was 562 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: before menarchy. Everything was quiet then, and it's quiet now, 563 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: so that now we can serve, and now we can 564 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: look outward and just give all of this incredible wisdom 565 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: to our community, to our families around us. So that 566 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: I hope that answers your question. That's kind of my 567 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: little spiel that I really wanted to be able to 568 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: share at some point on this podcast because I was 569 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: just hoping that people would get a lot of encouragement, 570 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: a lot of spiritual encouragement from how God made them. 571 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's so much, and that's so good. Beca. 572 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: I love this idea of reframing each of these phases 573 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: into looking at it from God's perspective. And I was 574 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: reading I think it's so I think there's a series. 575 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: I might get it wrong. 576 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: It's like the menopause brain and the pregnancy Brain. Have 577 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: you heard of those books? I think there's one called 578 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: the menopause Brain. But somewhere I have read a book 579 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: and it talks about the way our brain is actually 580 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: transformed through these hormonal changes that we go through and 581 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: how it equips us and so like in one of 582 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: the books that I read, it said something the effect 583 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: of we joke about, oh, I've got. 584 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: Pregnancy brain, and we use it in a negative way. 585 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: But it went through all of the ways it prepares 586 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: us to be an effective nurturing mother, from a survival perspective, 587 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: from an emotional and nurturing perspective. And then again as 588 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: you go into menopause, you have this other transformation of 589 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: different areas of your brain being benefited and pruned, and 590 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: it's a good thing and it prepares us for what's next, 591 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: which is, you know, maybe being a grandparent, maybe being 592 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: you know, I think it brought in this idea of 593 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: storytelling and wisdom imparting through what we have and the 594 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: parts of our brains that are fortified are the parts 595 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: of our brains that allow us to connect with people 596 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: in that way in imparting wisdom. And I'm paraphrasing and 597 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: probably getting it way wrong, but that's kind of the 598 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: gist and it falls in line with that exactly what 599 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: you're saying of let's view this. 600 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: Not as oh, well, I'm done for now, I'm. 601 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: Just you know, God has designed us with this timeline 602 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: that allows us to like have all these different roles 603 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: as women, and they're all equally beautiful. So I wanted 604 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: to ask you just to take a second and address 605 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: the woman who has been betrayed by her hormones or 606 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: perceives that she's been betrayed by her hormones, whether it's infertility, 607 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: whether it's extremely difficult PMS, or whether it's you know, 608 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: maybe she went into menopause very early, any of those things. 609 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: Where it's like, did God really do this? Like what 610 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: would you. 611 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Say to that person questioning absolutely and harboring a lot 612 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: of anger and resentment toward her own body and maybe 613 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: even toward God for creating women this way. 614 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 615 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think we need to first of all, 616 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: remember and recognize the beauty of the original design and 617 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: the original intent of that design. And then we need 618 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: to recognize the second fold of looking at all of 619 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: this arc of beauty and then being like, up, and 620 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: we are in a fallen and broken world, and there 621 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 3: is going to be different types of challenges and suffering 622 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: and sorrow within each of these different parts of this arc. Right, 623 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: So we could talk about the difficulties and the challenges 624 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 3: that are in each of these different phases, and ultimately 625 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 3: we have to recognize that there is spiritual warfare and 626 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: specific enmity from Satan towards the woman. And we see 627 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 3: that in our fertility, we really do. And Satan he's 628 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 3: not stupid, he's very like straightforward, he's not crafty, but 629 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: he recognizes this woman is the one who will bring 630 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: in Jesus Christ, and who has brought in Jesus Christ. 631 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: And this woman is the one who will allow the 632 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 3: kingdom to continue to grow unless I tear it down. 633 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: And so of course he's attacking our fertility. Of course 634 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: he's making us wanting to like hate our b bodies 635 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 3: and be so frustrated and fed up and go through 636 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: really hard stuff, go through heart stuff, to going through 637 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 3: trauma and trying to break this relationship that was supposed 638 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: to be good and is supposed to be good that 639 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: we have with our bodies and our fertility in God himself. 640 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: And of course he's wanting to disrupt that. So the 641 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: first thing that I, you know, want to share is like, 642 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: let's just call this what it is. This isn't about 643 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 3: you being angry with God. This is about we are 644 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 3: in a broken, fallen, sinful world and this is a 645 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 3: spiritual battle. This is spiritual warfare. So our hearts have 646 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: to be aligned first with God and recognizing what this is. 647 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: And once our hearts are aligned first, then it becomes 648 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: easier to see clearly what should our next steps be. 649 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: We're not supposed to be silent partners and not do 650 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: anything and be doormats and just be like, oh, well, 651 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: this is just my cross to bear. My fertility is 652 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: just going to suck. Like, No, we should be active partners. 653 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 3: We are a royal priesthood a whole, and we got 654 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: things we got to do, and we want to be 655 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: able to be active participants of this royal priesthood. And 656 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 3: we can't just sit by the wayside and let Satan 657 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 3: have a heyday with our hormones, with our fertility, with 658 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: our periods, with our pregnancies, with our birth, with our postpartum. 659 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: Now we have to fight back. We have to call 660 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: this for what it is and we have to fight back. 661 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 3: We can't do this alone. We cannot do this alone. 662 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: Like my mantra is, it takes sometimes it takes a 663 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 3: village to get a baby, to get pregnant and we 664 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: have all heard like sometimes it takes a village to 665 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: support the pregnancy, takes the village to raise a child, 666 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: It takes a village. We have to have good community, 667 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 3: We have to have good support, We have to have 668 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: Christ centered practitioners and coaches to support us fully in mind, body, 669 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: and spirit. We can't just be focusing on the physical 670 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: and expecting that and just like not connecting the dots 671 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: that the physical is connected to the spiritual. They are connected, 672 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 3: and so we want to be surrounding ourselves with people 673 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 3: who get that and support that and are praying and 674 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: fighting for us. 675 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: In that way. 676 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: Oh that is so good, and it's a perfect segue 677 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: into can you just tell us a little bit about 678 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: what you do and where our listeners can find You 679 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 2: can find your podcast online absolutely media. 680 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so virtually globally, I serve women in their fertility 681 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: and supporting them and learning about how did God sign you, 682 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: what are your cycles? What is it telling you, and 683 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 3: how do we support them naturally within God's design and 684 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: doing a lot of advocacy work within that. So I 685 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: do that within my program called Fertility Framework. You learn 686 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 3: one of the fertility awareness methods you learn the incredible 687 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: hormone coaching skills and tools, and you learn how do 688 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 3: I do this with God at the center, as we 689 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 3: like do a Bible study throughout this program, so we 690 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 3: are balancing the spiritual, physical, and emotional elements. And if 691 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: you're local in the Front Range of Colorado, I'm also doula, 692 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 3: So I love it when I get to serve people 693 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: and it's the most rewarding thing that I've been able 694 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: to help a few people get pregnant and be at 695 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: their berths locally, and that's that's incredible as well. 696 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: My podcast is. 697 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 3: Called for the Love of Hormones, where we dive deep 698 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: into this every week, and my website is Becca yan 699 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 3: dot com. 700 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of us get to experience childbirth a handful 701 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: of times, even maybe if that, and it must be 702 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: pretty incredible to be able to experience it so many times, 703 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 2: and especially with someone that you've walked spiritually, emotionally, physically 704 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 2: through the process of even conceiving all the way. 705 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: To that endpoint. That's beautiful. 706 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Becca, I'm so excited to get your 707 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 2: information out to our listeners. This has been so good 708 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: and how can we pray for you I'm going to 709 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: close us in prayer. 710 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: How can we pray for you today? 711 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 3: Thank you just continued encouragement for the work that I'm in. 712 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: It's been several years and so just continued encourage that 713 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 3: would be great. 714 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: All righty, well, thank you so much for being here. 715 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 2: And you know, who knows, we might maybe we'll have 716 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: you on again in another year. Thank you, Jamie for sure. Right, 717 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: let's pray God. We just thank you so much for Becca. 718 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 2: Thank you for the experiences that you've just allowed her 719 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: to use to teach and help and give hope to 720 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: other women. We just thank you so much for the 721 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: fact that she puts Christ at the. 722 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: Center of what she's doing. 723 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: And just pray that you would continue to bless her ministries, 724 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: bless her body, mind and spirit to just have the 725 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 2: energy and the just ability to wear all the hats 726 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: to be a mom, a wife, to do ministry and 727 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: work and all of the other things. 728 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: That she has in her life. 729 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: We just pray that you would provide for her in 730 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: every single way, and that you would just continue to 731 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: guide her and direct her and sustain her in what 732 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 2: she's doing, that she would just be under the complete 733 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 2: protection of your absolute best that she would just have 734 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 2: that knowledge and confidence and feeling of riding the wave 735 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: of what you have for her, that absolute best that 736 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: she would be in a complete alignment with your purposes 737 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: for her. And we just pray for anyone listening who 738 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: has experienced pain or trauma in regards to fertility or 739 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: their hormones. And we just pray for healing, for support, 740 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 2: for love, for restoration. 741 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: In Jesus name, and we just pray that you. 742 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 2: Would just allow this podcast to get out to anyone 743 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: who needs to hear it. Just bring Becca to anyone 744 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: who could benefit from her services, and just break down 745 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: any barriers between these women who need help and getting 746 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: to her. 747 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: In Jesus' name, Amen man, we'd like. 748 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: To take just a quick second to thank the team 749 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: at Life Audio for their partnership with us on the podcast. 750 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: If you go to lifeaudio dot com, you will find 751 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 2: dozens of other faith centered podcasts in their network. They've 752 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 2: got shows about prayer, Bible study, parenting, and so much more. 753 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: That's lifeaudio dot com.