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Speaker 2: And Evening Grace America. I'm Hugh Hewett. The war with

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Speaker 2: Iran goes very very well, very very well.

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Speaker 1: President Trump will address the nation about it tonight at

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock Eastern time.

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Speaker 2: Tune into the Sale New Channel, watch it wherever you can.

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Speaker 2: I'll bring you analysis of it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday he made remarks in the Oval Office in the afternoon,

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Speaker 1: which I'll play in the courts of the program today.

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Speaker 1: Secretary Rubio also gave a brief summary of the arguments

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Speaker 1: for continuing the devastation of Iran and why we went

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Speaker 1: to one in the first place that the White House

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Speaker 1: released I want you to hear at Cuttnambert twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Many Americans are asking why did the United States have

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Speaker 3: to attack Iran?

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Speaker 2: Now, well, let me explain.

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Speaker 3: Iran wants to have nuclear weapons of that there is

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Speaker 3: zero doubt. If what they truly wanted, which is what

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Speaker 3: they claim is nuclear energy, well they could have nuclear

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Speaker 3: energy like all the other countries in the world have it,

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Speaker 3: and that is you import the fuel and you build

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Speaker 3: reactors above ground. That's not what Iran has done. They

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Speaker 3: build their reactors and their facilities deep in mountains, away

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Speaker 3: from the public glare, and they want to enrich that material.

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Speaker 3: The same equipment that they could use to enrich material

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Speaker 3: for energy, they could use to quickly enrich it to

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Speaker 3: weapons grade. So it is clear that they've been offered

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Speaker 3: every opportunity to have a nuclear program that allows them

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Speaker 3: to have energy, not weapons, and every single time they

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Speaker 3: have turned it down. But why the attack now, Well,

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Speaker 3: what was Iran trying to do. Iran was trying to

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Speaker 3: build a conventional shield in essence, have so many missiles,

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Speaker 4: Were well on their way.

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Speaker 3: We were on the verge of an Iran that had

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Speaker 3: so many missiles and so many drones that no one

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Speaker 3: could do anything about their nuclear weapons program in the future.

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Speaker 3: That was an intolerable risk. Under no circumstances can a

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Speaker 3: country run by radical Shiah clerics with an apocalyptic vision

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Speaker 3: of the future ever possess nuclear weapons, and under no

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Speaker 3: circumstances can they be allowed to hide and protect that

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Speaker 3: drones that no one can do anything about. This was

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Speaker 3: our last best chance to eliminate that conventional threat, that

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Speaker 3: conventional shield that they were trying to build, and the

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Speaker 3: President made the right decision to wipe it out. Now

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Speaker 3: that is the goal of this operation, to destroy their

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Speaker 3: conventional missiles and their drone program so they can't hide

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Speaker 3: behind it and finally have to deal with the world

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Speaker 3: seriously about never ever having nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: I think this secretary put it very very well, and

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Speaker 1: I believe completely that it's been a to this point

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Speaker 1: remarkably successful mission. Now, thirteen Americans are dead as the

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Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice made by thirteen service people, and theirs families

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Speaker 1: are in our prayers and they will be helped, and

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Speaker 1: we will concern ourselves with the wounded after the war

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Speaker 1: is done and they are being tended to. Of course,

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Speaker 1: they're double digit seriously wounded Americans as well, and Israelis

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Speaker 1: have suffered. Our golf allies have suffered a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have suffered by paying higher prices. I understand, but

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Speaker 1: gas prices will plummet when the straight oh war moves reopens.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what the President's going to say

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Speaker 1: tonight and take a victory lap, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: going to say exactly what Secretary Rubio said at length

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Speaker 1: with more details tune in tonight. Now, the big story

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Speaker 1: that had happened today, we're arguments held before the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court in Trump versus Barbara. Trump versus Barbara is about

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Speaker 1: President Trump's executive order saying that after a date, certain

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Speaker 1: foreigner is born children born of foreign parents in the

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Speaker 1: United States were no longer United States citizens. I've told

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Speaker 1: you from the beginning, I did not believe that's constitutional.

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Speaker 1: If you're born in America, you're an American citizen. I've

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Speaker 1: been arguing this with John Eastman, for example, for twenty years,

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Speaker 1: and I've always had the same argument. When we had

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Speaker 1: our massive influx of immigration after the Fourteenth Amendment between

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Speaker 1: country illegally. We have never ever looked. There's also the

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Speaker 1: case of wangkim Ark. There's statutes pass subsequent I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get a close call. I think it'd be at

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, it was an interesting argument. Today.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Justice Kavanaugh and exchange with

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Speaker 1: John Sower, the Solicitor General. Actually it's with Cecilia Wang,

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Speaker 5: And this in your opening that if we agree with

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Speaker 5: you on how to read wankim ark, then you win,

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Speaker 5: so that it could be a if we did agree

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Speaker 5: short opinion, right. That says the better reading is respondence reading.

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Speaker 5: Government doesn't ask this to overrule a firm.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's by the way, that's the best kind of

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Speaker 1: argument to have is when the justice says, if we

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Speaker 1: Justice Amy Coney Barrett here is talking with Solicitor General

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Speaker 2: You decide for yourself what she thinks. Cut number seventeen.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's talk about it's applications, so you know there

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Speaker 6: are some I can imagine it being messy on some applications.

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Speaker 6: So how what would you do with what the common

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: The thing about this is and then you have to

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Speaker 6: adjudicate if you're looking at parents, and if you're looking

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Speaker 6: at parents domicile, then you have to adjudicate both residents

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Speaker 6: and intent to say, what if you don't know who

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Speaker 6: the parents are?

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Speaker 7: I think there are marginal cases that one I think

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Speaker 7: afore it talks about it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, ye, yeah, yeah, But what about the constitution.

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Speaker 7: Under the constitution, it's domina I mean, look there, domicile

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Speaker 7: is a constitutional standard in all kinds.

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Speaker 2: Of other situations. Well, and it's hard.

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Speaker 7: First jurisdiction, personal jurisdiction start well, yeah, and a.

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Speaker 6: Personal jurisdiction, I mean thirteen thirty two diversity jurisdiction. And

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Speaker 6: the thing is it has to be litigated because it

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Speaker 6: bright line rule. How would it work? How would you

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Speaker 6: adjudicate these cases? You're not going to know at the

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Speaker 6: time of birth for some people, whether they have the

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Speaker 6: I mean, what if you have someone who is living

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Speaker 6: a US citizen, comes home and has her child here

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Speaker 6: and goes back. How do we know whether the child

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Speaker 2: I'd make two points, one practical, one legal.

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Speaker 7: The practical point is, under the terms of this executive order,

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Speaker 7: you don't have to because the executive order turns on

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Speaker 7: objectively verifiable things, which is immigration status. Are you lawfully

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Speaker 2: So those kind of like you.

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Speaker 7: Know, taking evidence so to speak, under subject to ten

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Speaker 7: wouldn't be done. And as to the constitutional point, obviously,

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Speaker 7: domicile is baked into a lot of constitutional and legal concepts,

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Speaker 7: and there may be situations where facts are determined. But

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Speaker 7: if you look at the guidance, the guidance that all

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Speaker 7: I think, very very clear, objective, verifiable approaches to doing this.

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Speaker 7: And so as a practical matter, I don't think it's

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Speaker 7: some mood presented by this executive order, Thank you, General Chief.

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Speaker 1: Justice Roberts also had questions for John Sower cutting number thirteen.

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Speaker 7: Based on Chinese media reports, there are five hundred five

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Speaker 7: hundred birth tourism companies in the People's Republic of China.

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Speaker 7: Who's what business is to bring people here to give

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Speaker 2: Having said all that, you do agree that.

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Speaker 7: That has no impact on the legal analysis before us.

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Speaker 7: I think it's I quote what Justice Clia said in

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Speaker 7: these implications that could not possibly have been approved by

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Speaker 7: the nineteenth century framers of this amendment. I think that

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Speaker 7: shows that they made a mess. Their interpretation has made

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Speaker 7: a mess in the provision.

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Speaker 8: Well, it certainly wasn't a problem in the nineteenth century.

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Speaker 7: No, But of course we're in a new world now,

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Speaker 7: is Justice Leada pointed out to where eight billion people

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Speaker 7: are one plane ride away from having a child who's

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Speaker 7: a US citizen.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a new world. It's the same constitution, it is.

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Speaker 7: And as Justice Clia said, I think in the case

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Speaker 7: that Justice Ledo was referring to, you've got a conscial

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Speaker 7: provision that addresses certain evils, and it should be extended

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Speaker 7: to reasonly comparable evils. He said, they about sash store interpretation.

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Speaker 7: I think the same principle applies here, and I think

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Speaker 7: we quote that in our brief.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Justice John Sower is referring to an exchange

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Speaker 9: Were nineteenations that they had in mind when they adopted

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Speaker 9: that dealt with this situation. He imagined an old theft

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Speaker 2: There's a general rule there, and you'll apply it to

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Speaker 10: And what we're dealing with here is something that was

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Speaker 10: which is illegal immigration. So how did we deal with

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I strongly agree with the way that you framed it,

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Speaker 7: that there is a general principle, that's a broad principle.

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Speaker 7: It's adopted it phrase under the jurisdiction thereof. And we

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Speaker 7: submit that more theory of allegiance and domicile based allegiance.

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Speaker 2: What explains those specific exceptions that.

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Speaker 7: Everybody was aware of, but it has broad enough to

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Speaker 7: sweep in future situations. And as you pointed out, all

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Speaker 7: legal immigration did not exist then. Now the problem of

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Speaker 7: temporary visitors did exist.

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Speaker 1: That good try John Sower, not just tracing. I think

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Speaker 1: this one is easy. If you're born here, you're a citizen.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. I'm healing you do it.

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Speaker 1: Joined now by Sarah C. Bedford to the Washington Examiner,

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Speaker 1: where she's chief investigation's reporter.

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Speaker 2: Sarah, I'm hoping.

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Speaker 1: To cover a lot of ground with you today, But

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Speaker 1: can we begin with the government shutdown?

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Speaker 2: Not shut down?

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Speaker 1: The Senate pastor bill, the House rejected it. The Senate said,

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Speaker 1: let's use reconciliation. The President went, what's going on with

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Speaker 1: the government shutdown.

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Speaker 11: Well, it seems like we finally have some sort of

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Speaker 1: I believe the President's budget is coming soon, I hope.

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Speaker 1: Sir, you're way too young to remember Richard Nixon Great

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think to the extent that people are unhappy

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Speaker 12: You'll have those those gas prices fall. So this is

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Speaker 2: Sarah see Bedford of the Washington Exam and everything. Welcome

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Speaker 1: Jim Tallon, former senator from Missouri, is a member of

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Speaker 1: the Reagan Institute Center for Peace through Strength. Jim, good

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Speaker 1: to have you back. They're new names atop the Iranian

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Speaker 2: They are killers.

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Speaker 1: They were in the Iran Iraq War for ten years.

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Speaker 1: They're part of the revolution. I don't see Iran becoming

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Speaker 4: To you, well, I think you're right that they're not moderates.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, just a year. Might take a year.

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Speaker 1: Guessing now, Jim Tallant, they're out of money. They don't

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Speaker 1: They are normal in that respect.

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Speaker 4: When we've destroyed the defense industrial base, and when, as

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Speaker 4: you say, they didn't have an economy to begin with.

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Speaker 2: I don't either.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder if Israel will continue to patrol the

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Speaker 1: skies in a sort of no fly zone, no drive

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Speaker 1: zone like we do over Iraq for ten years.

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Speaker 2: Would the world allow that? Would would Syria object?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would you respond to that if Israel said, President,

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Speaker 1: we gotchas.

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Speaker 4: I very much think that if the regime survives, we

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Speaker 4: don't see a fundamental change in direction. That the Israelis

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Speaker 4: will continue to police their activities and to hit them

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Speaker 4: if they if they try and build anything up. And

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Speaker 4: I think the United States will be fine with that.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think the Israelis is going to care

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Speaker 4: very much what Emmanuel Macrone says about it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: a side effect of this war has been to push

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Speaker 4: Western Europe anyway even further into into irrelevance. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I just don't here. We have our Asian allies working

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Speaker 4: closely with us. We have our our aerob partners working

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Speaker 4: closely with us in the Middle East. We're gaining more

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Speaker 4: and more support in Latin and South America. The Eastern

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Speaker 4: Europeans have a good relationship with us, and we have

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Speaker 4: the Western Europeans and the Islamic Republic in this fantasy

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Speaker 4: world that they're still projecting influence. I may.

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Speaker 1: Have to ask you to say for a segment, but

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Speaker 1: let's get started on this. What about withdrawing from NATO.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got Poland is doing their job, Finland

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Speaker 1: is doing their job. Ukraine isn't in NATO, but they're

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Speaker 1: doing their job. Bulgaria is doing their job, Sweden's doing

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Speaker 1: their job. Everybody else is screwing with us.

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Speaker 2: Should we stay in there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my gut is yeah. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think we're better in than out. And we do have

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Speaker 4: a lot of good allies, including the two that have

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Speaker 4: just joined Finland and Sweden in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: They have real capabilities. Of our Eastern European friends do

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Speaker 4: as well. So I would stay in, and I think

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Speaker 4: the President's going to But I mean, I have to

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Speaker 4: tell you it's very disappointing. I mean, I did not

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Speaker 4: expect them to contribute military force. You, but they could

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Speaker 4: have let us use their airspace, let us use the

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Speaker 4: bases we build. And by the way, you the fact

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Speaker 4: that they wouldn't let us use the bases, doesn't that

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Speaker 4: tell us something about why we're concerned about Greenland? And

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Speaker 4: everybody says, oh, we don't need sovereignty over Greenland because

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Speaker 4: they'll let you use the military basis. Well, we thought

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Speaker 4: the British would, we thought the Spanish would. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it makes a little more transparent why the president's concerned

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Speaker 4: about that. But you, I think.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that Denmark sent troops to Greenland anticipation

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Speaker 1: of American landing there.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that story? Yeah, it was like a

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Speaker 2: like a platoon.

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Speaker 4: I mean you Ain Ram supposedly said something once I

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Speaker 4: said it on the pod the other day, or as

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Speaker 4: she wrote it. At some point she said, you can

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Speaker 4: avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, your voice is much better, so

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Speaker 1: him your allergy driven.

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Speaker 2: That's what's wrong with my voice. It's allergy. I've got allergy.

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Speaker 4: It was a cold and much as I admire our

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Speaker 4: friend the General Lisimo all he suggested I do was

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Speaker 4: take tea and honey, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sure you have a better at Oh yeah, I've got

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Speaker 1: a regime for allergy meds. Don't go anywhere if I

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Speaker 1: can keep you, Jim, I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: Five Eyes, because if we don't withdraw from NATO, maybe

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Speaker 1: we ought to rethink Five Eyes. Because I'm not too

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Speaker 1: I'm not very up on sharing info with the UK

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Speaker 1: right now. Stay tuned, Welcome back in America. Senator Jim

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Speaker 1: Talon hung around in a while with me because I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about five Eyes. That's an E Y

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Speaker 1: E ES. The Alliance of the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand and Australia formed after World War Two to

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Speaker 1: share intel and we've always had what we get, you get.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about it now, Jim.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you absent some concrete evidence that they're

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Speaker 4: not reliable in keeping confidential the intelligence that we give them,

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Speaker 4: and given the close relationship between the agencies themselves that

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Speaker 4: have been cultivated over the decades, I wouldn't do anything

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Speaker 4: with five Eyes. Remember, as you said, it includes the

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Speaker 4: Offsees and the New Zealanders. They got a lot of

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Speaker 4: good intelligence that we need in the Indo Pacific. It'd

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Speaker 4: be a good question to ask Tom Cotton when he

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Speaker 4: comes on next week though. I mean, I'd be really

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Speaker 4: interested to hear what he has to say.

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Speaker 1: All right, I will do that now. My concern is

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Speaker 1: that the UK has gone so far to the left.

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Speaker 1: We didn't tell them we were going to do this war,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't tell Australia.

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Speaker 2: They're very anti Israel too.

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Speaker 1: That government, not the Australian people, but that government was

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Speaker 1: indifferent to the threats on Jews until the massacargy occurred

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Speaker 1: at Bondi Beach. Do you really trust them? I have

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Speaker 1: to wonder about some of the people in those cabinet meetings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, you it's it's becoming increasingly difficult

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Speaker 4: because of the domestic political imperatives that they're responding to.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the vote there, the Islamic vote there makes

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Speaker 4: it a big difference. And and Starmar is contesting with

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Speaker 4: the Green Party and with with other parties for that vote.

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Speaker 4: And you know, if if it looks like they're having

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Speaker 4: to genuflect all the time in the direction of Islamic radicalism,

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Speaker 4: then that's a problem. And the British know it. I

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Speaker 4: think a lot of people in Britain know it, but

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Speaker 4: it's you it's a you know, it's a it's of

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Speaker 4: a piece with the concerns that that we have generally

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Speaker 4: speaking about Western Europe. I mean, it's just with what

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Speaker 4: they've done with their energy sector, with mass migration, with

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Speaker 4: defence pending. It's it's like they don't want to have

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Speaker 4: any real infla luce or any real power or anything

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Speaker 4: they can bring to the table in the Alliance. And

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Speaker 4: they need to stop being huffy and they need to

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Speaker 4: start listening. The Germans are doing it, and as I said,

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Speaker 4: the Eastern Europeans are doing it, but the Western Europeans

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Speaker 4: it's it's a problem, all right.

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Speaker 1: Last question, Jim, in your experience in the Senate, if

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Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice had decided upon retirement, would they

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Speaker 1: have alerted the president by now.

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Speaker 4: Mean retirement by the summer? Let's say, yeah, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think they would. I think they would have sent some

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Speaker 4: signals out, and I don't they would have made a

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Speaker 4: definite Yeah, I don't think they'd have made a definite commitment.

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Speaker 4: Although you know, of course, the White House and you

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Speaker 4: served there, the White House Council's Office DOJ They're ready

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Speaker 4: for that.

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Speaker 2: At any time.

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Speaker 4: They've got lists, they're betting them they'll be ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking the President had been so confident and

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Speaker 1: so relaxed about this war. I think he got someone

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Speaker 1: in his back pocket by our radio friend Michael Wattley,

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Speaker 1: former chairman of the Republican National Committee, soon to be

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Speaker 1: the Senator from North Carolina. He's running for that job. Michael,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. I got two things to cover with you. First,

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Speaker 1: the state of the campaign, and second, the perception of

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Speaker 1: the battle with Theyran in your state, North Carolina home

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Speaker 1: the Fort Bragg of course, and many other cherry and

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Speaker 1: many other places that matter a great deal. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with the latter. What the North Carolinians think about the

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Speaker 1: battle with they'reon.

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Speaker 13: Look, the people of North Carolina solidly stand with the

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Speaker 13: President when we talk about what is happening in Iran

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Speaker 13: right now. The President has been very forceful since day one.

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Speaker 13: Coran is not going to have the ability to deliver

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Speaker 13: a nuclear payload. They're not going to have nuclear weapons,

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Speaker 13: They're not going to have missile capacity to deliver a

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Speaker 13: payload into Europe or the United States and they need

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Speaker 13: to be stopped from being able to export terrorism. The

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Speaker 13: American people strong to support that. The people from North

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Speaker 13: Carolina strongly support that. As you said, we've got one

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Speaker 13: hundred thousand men and women here in North Carolina at

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Speaker 13: six different military bases. When we talk about protecting the

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Speaker 13: American interests and allies around the world, North Carolina is

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Speaker 13: the tip of the sphere, and this is an area

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Speaker 13: where we strongly back our men and women in uniform.

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Speaker 1: Now, Michael Whitley, you're running against a former governor down there.

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Speaker 2: Has your opponent said anything about the war.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, what he said is it's absurd. That was the

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Speaker 13: word that he used yesterday. I do not think that

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Speaker 13: the efforts of our men and women in uniform based

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Speaker 13: here in North Carolina and around the country are absurd

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Speaker 13: in any way, shape or form. We need a nuclear

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Speaker 13: free Iran. We need to make sure that Iran cannot

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Speaker 13: deliver payloads, and we need to make sure that they're

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Speaker 13: not exporting terrorism, whether it's in the Middle East or

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Speaker 13: anywhere else around the world.

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Speaker 1: Now, forgive my surprise, Roy Cooper said ed the war

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Speaker 1: with Iran is absurd.

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Speaker 13: That's what he said yesterday in a social media post.

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Speaker 13: We were very dismayed that he would go in a

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Speaker 13: direction like that.

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Speaker 2: Holy smokes.

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Speaker 1: I guess he doesn't want to be a center from

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Speaker 1: North Carolina.

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Speaker 13: He certainly is not going to get the support of that.

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Speaker 13: You know, we have seven hundred and twenty thousand veterans

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Speaker 13: who called North Carolina home. We have more veterans than

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Speaker 13: any other state in the country, and you know, our

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Speaker 13: support for the military is very, very strong. I was

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Speaker 13: honored to be asked to join President Trump when he

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Speaker 13: came to Fort Bragg just a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 13: to thank our troops, to thank the men and women

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Speaker 13: in the army, particularly when you think about the Delta

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Speaker 13: Force team that went down and took out Maduro, the

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Speaker 13: most dangerous man in the Western Hemisphere, was based in

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Speaker 13: North Carolina. So we are the tip of the spear

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Speaker 13: when it comes to protecting our interests and allies around

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Speaker 13: the world.

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Speaker 1: Not only do you have the active duty and the

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Speaker 1: veteran community and their extended families and their brothers and

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Speaker 1: sisters and uncles and aunts, etc. You've also got to

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Speaker 1: have a lot of people with family in the fourteen

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Speaker 1: countries attacked by Iran in the last five weeks. Of

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Speaker 1: course Israel, but all of our golf allies, azerber Jan, Turkey.

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Speaker 1: You've got to have a lot of people who have

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Speaker 1: looked at Iran and seeing that they attacked the home country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, look and the fact is Iran is a bad actor.

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Speaker 13: This regime. They are bad actors. They have been absolutely

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Speaker 13: resolute in wanting to develop a nuclear weapon. When President

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Speaker 13: Trump sent one bombing run over there last year, they

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Speaker 13: did not get the message. We certainly hope that they're

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Speaker 13: going to get the message this time around that as

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Speaker 13: long as President Trump is in office, they are not

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Speaker 13: going to develop a nuclear weapon and be able to

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Speaker 13: deliver it either to the Middle East, Europe or the

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Speaker 13: United States of America.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, sometimes, Chairman, lately, governors turned out to

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Speaker 1: be terrible Senate candidates. That's happened often in our political

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Speaker 1: past because they're used to people being deferential and to

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Speaker 1: being able to rewrite history with the executive word. But

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Speaker 1: you cannot erase absurd from that. That's pretty stunning. How

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Speaker 1: goes the race, Let's start with your website so people

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Speaker 1: can chip in, because it's going to be maybe the

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Speaker 1: most expensive race in the United States. Maybe Susan Collins.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not sure.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Well Michael Wadley dot com. They can follow me

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Speaker 13: on x at Wattley NC. And the race is going

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Speaker 13: extremely well. We had a very very strong showing in

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Speaker 13: the primary, sixty five percent coming out of the primary

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Speaker 13: and with seven different people in the race, and we

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Speaker 13: have seen a good bounce in the polls since we

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Speaker 13: came out of it. Look, this is going to be

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Speaker 13: a long race. As you said, it's going to be

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Speaker 13: an expensive race. But the people of North Carolina have

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Speaker 13: a fundamental choice in front of them. Do they want

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Speaker 13: an ally for President Trump? Do they want a conservative

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Speaker 13: champion in the Senate who's going to fight for policies

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Speaker 13: that will create jobs, not just more jobs, with better jobs,

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Speaker 13: that are going to make sure people get to take

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Speaker 13: home more money, that they get to keep more money

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Speaker 13: with lower taxes, that we're going to have affordability. That

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Speaker 13: is going to be something that we focus on. Or

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Speaker 13: are we going to have somebody like Roy Cooper who's

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Speaker 13: going to fight for tax cuts. This is a guy

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Speaker 13: who delivered tax cuts as a legislator, he vetoed tax

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Speaker 13: cuts as a governor. He said that he would have

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Speaker 13: voted against the One Big Beautiful Bill. Had he been

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Speaker 13: in the Senate when he announced that he was running

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Speaker 13: for the Senate. Right when we talk about crime, we

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Speaker 13: talk about keeping our kids in our community safe. I'm

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Speaker 13: going to back the Blue and I'm going to support

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Speaker 13: every effort to make sure that we have more cops

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Speaker 13: on the streets and more criminals behind bars. Roy Cooper

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Speaker 13: has fought harder for criminals and illegal aliens than he

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Speaker 13: has his own constituents. So we've got a very big

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Speaker 13: divide between me and Roy Cooper in this race. The

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Speaker 13: people of North Carolina, they want a rebuilt economy, stronger economy.

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Speaker 13: They want to see that we're going to have our

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Speaker 13: borders strong and our community safe. And they want to

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Speaker 13: make sure that they're backing the men and women in uniform,

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Speaker 13: both here in North Carolina and around the world.

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Speaker 1: Michael Watley dot Com that w h A T L

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Speaker 1: e Y. Every contribution helps. I've got my favorite races.

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Speaker 1: This is one we got to hold on to. If

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Speaker 1: we win it, we'll hold on to the Senate now,

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Speaker 1: Chairman Motley, there are a lot of people in America.

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Speaker 1: Look up and they're not like you and me. They

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Speaker 1: don't live and breathe politics. They look up and they think, well,

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Speaker 1: they're moderate Democrats left, and then they think they're voting

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Speaker 1: for a moderate Democrat and they go back and Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer tell them what to.

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Speaker 2: Do and they do it. I think that's Roy Cooper.

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Speaker 1: Do the people of North Carolina figure out this is

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Speaker 1: a caucus driven Senate. This is we get no judges

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Speaker 1: if the Republicans lose control of it.

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Speaker 2: None zero.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a conversation that we're going to have with

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Speaker 13: every single community across this great state. We've got one

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Speaker 13: hundred counties. We're going to visit them all, from Wilmington

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Speaker 13: to Watauga County and from Murphy Demanio. We're going to

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Speaker 13: be hitting the trail from now through November third and

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Speaker 13: having that conversation with them. You know, ultimately, this race

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Speaker 13: comes down to a vote. It comes down to a

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Speaker 13: vote and whether you're going to represent North Carolina values

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Speaker 13: and fight for North Carolina first, or are you going

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Speaker 13: to side with Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders and really

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Speaker 13: truly vote for San Francisco, Chicago and New York values.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm curious about the upcountry that got smashed by

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Speaker 1: the storm. Have they forgotten that Joe Biden did nothing

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Speaker 1: for them? Have they forgotten that Roy Cooper didn't help either?

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Speaker 1: Or is that still fun of them?

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Speaker 13: But I'm not forgotten. It is front of mine for them,

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Speaker 13: and the fact that President Trump has delivered over eight

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Speaker 13: point seventy five billion dollars worth of relief. It's the

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Speaker 13: biggest federal relief and recovery effort in the history of

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Speaker 13: North Carolina. We just got a new announcement today, another

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Speaker 13: one hundred million dollars has been released, this time by

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Speaker 13: Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen and the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 13: So we're going to continue to make sure that those

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Speaker 13: resources get into western North Carolina. When I brought President

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Speaker 13: Trump down to Swannanoah his first trip after he was

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Speaker 13: elected president and sworn in, sickly said we are not

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Speaker 13: going to forget western North Carolina. And he has always

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Speaker 1: Last question, Michael Watley, The news that gets national out

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Speaker 1: of North Carolina is sometimes pretty bad because it concerns

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Speaker 1: the Charlotte Metro transportation system and people being murdered on that.

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Speaker 2: Has Roy Cooper.

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Speaker 1: Done anything about that, said anything about that pledged to

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Speaker 1: oblige the Charlotte authorities to back the blue and not

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Speaker 1: the crazy people.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 13: Roy Cooper has absolutely hid from that issue, and well

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Speaker 13: he should. The fact is that he created the revolving

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Speaker 13: door that, with cashless bail and pre trial release, put

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Speaker 13: violent criminals back on the streets again and again and again.

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Speaker 13: He also signed an order in a court settlement with

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Speaker 13: the ACLU and NAACP where he released more than thirty

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Speaker 13: five hardened criminals from North Carolina prisons because he didn't

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Speaker 13: want him to have cold to get COVID. One of

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Speaker 13: those prisoners was de Carlos Brown Junior, the man who

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Speaker 13: ended up murdering Rain as a roadska on the Charlotte

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Speaker 13: light rail. So this is not an issue that Roy

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Speaker 13: Cooper feels comfortable talking about. It's an issue that we're

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Speaker 13: going to be spending a lot of time on. I

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Speaker 13: want to know why was the Carlos Brown Junior on

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Speaker 13: that list? Why were thirty five hundred people on that list?

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Speaker 13: Why were there murderers and rapists and pedophiles that Roy

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Speaker 13: Cooper let out of jail because he was worried about COVID.

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Speaker 13: These are things that the North Carolina people deserve answers to.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined by Noah Rothman, senior writer for

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Speaker 1: National Review. Like me and Iron Warhawk, Noah, I have

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Speaker 1: been saying since the war began, I don't put much

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Speaker 1: stock in presidential addresses anymore because when Richard Nixon gave

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Speaker 1: the Great Silent Majority Speech, seventy seven million people watch.

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Speaker 1: That was like three quarters of Americans with TV sets

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Speaker 1: turned on. That's not going to be the audience tonight.

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, are you glad he's doing it?

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Speaker 8: I'm glad he's doing it. I wish he had done

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Speaker 8: it a lot sooner. I do think whether or not

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Speaker 8: I do think it matters even if it's not going

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Speaker 8: to show up in the polls. And I agree it's

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Speaker 8: not going to show up in the polls.

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Speaker 2: But that's it.

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Speaker 8: I don't necessarily know what he's going to say tonight,

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Speaker 8: do you.

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Speaker 2: We got a pretty wide leak here.

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Speaker 1: I got a pretty good leak that says it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a reiteration of everything he said about no navy,

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Speaker 1: no air force, no ability to produce missiles, no nuclear program,

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Speaker 1: no way to threaten US. And by the way, the

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Speaker 1: straits are somebody else's problem. That's a Adam Krado usually

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Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about.

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Speaker 8: That's interesting, assistant with the statements that we saw put

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Speaker 8: out by the Rapid Response account from the President's Twitter account. However,

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Speaker 8: when it comes to the Hormuz thing, I'm a little

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Speaker 8: curious about that because over the last seventy two hours

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Speaker 8: we've had some conflicting statements from the President and his subordinates. Initially,

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Speaker 8: it was Hormuz isn't our problem, everybody else uses it,

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Speaker 8: and the president, as I wrote for The Morning Jolt

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Speaker 8: on Tuesday, the President is right to expect the straight

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Speaker 8: of Hormu's toll booth strategy to collapse of its own

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Speaker 8: weight in relatively short order. However, we've had a lot

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Speaker 8: of statements from the President and his subordinates today that

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Speaker 8: indicate that the Straight of Hormuz is not everybody else's problem.

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Speaker 8: He says that the war will not be over without

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Speaker 8: some demonstration, a proof of concept that free navigation has

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Speaker 8: been restored to this strait, and even said today that

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Speaker 8: he's issuing an ultimatum to the Iranian government. Open up

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Speaker 8: the straight of hormones and you get a cease fire.

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Speaker 8: Otherwise it's fire and fury. So very conflicting statements from

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Speaker 8: the President today, and I really don't know what to expect.

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Speaker 2: It would be very trumpy.

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Speaker 1: And if at the beginning of this speech he said

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Speaker 1: we are not I know, but that's straight to horor

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Speaker 1: moves or not our problem.

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Speaker 14: At the end of the speech, deliver the ultimatum because okay,

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Speaker 14: so if nothing else, it's a master class in completely

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Speaker 14: discombobulating your enemy's understanding of your thinking.

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Speaker 8: Could be could be or it could be a reflection

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Speaker 8: of the worst moment of a president presidential performance in

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Speaker 8: my living memory September tenth, twenty thirteen, and addressed by

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Speaker 8: Barack Obama in prime time, in which he stipulated all

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Speaker 8: the reasons why we should go to war against Syria's

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Speaker 8: Bashar al Asad and then at the end of the

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Speaker 8: speech said, but we're not going to do that, Russia,

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Speaker 8: What save my bacon. They're going to come in and

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Speaker 8: get chemical weapons out, which they didn't do. With the

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Speaker 8: most confused speech that I've ever recall hearing, and I

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Speaker 8: think the American people are still a little confused about

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Speaker 8: what the objectives are. We're not you, and I aren't.

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Speaker 8: We hear it very plainly, but the American people don't

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Speaker 8: seem to be similarly on board with what we understand

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Speaker 8: the objectives of this war to be the decimation of

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Speaker 8: Iran's capacity to protector ouside its borders.

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Speaker 1: And I try and clarify it for people, and I'll

877
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: ask you, is America and is the world better off

878
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: than they were five weeks ago?

879
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 8: If so, why now immeasurably, immeasurably more secure? Why because

880
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 8: the Uranian regime, Even if the Uranian regime survives, and

881
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 8: that's still a very open question, it's had its defense

882
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 8: industrial base eliminated, the capacity to restore the missiles that

883
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 8: it's firing off, severely truncated, its links to its terrorist

884
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 8: proxies severed, even those that are still very operational, like

885
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 8: the Hoho Thies are firing off calibrated single missile barrages

886
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 8: to satisfy a fractured leadership and to signal recognition that

887
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 8: it knows its missile stores are not going to be

888
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 8: restored anytime soon. The Iranian Navy has been decimated, the

889
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 8: air force ceases to exist. Its nuclear program is going

890
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 8: to be very hard to reassemble. Does have possession of

891
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 8: this enriched uranium. But tell me how they're going to

892
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 8: build the cascading centrifuge array. They need to get it

893
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 8: to a weapons grade capacity. I don't see how that happens. Plus,

894
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 8: we've struck their yellow cake production facilities. They are heavy

895
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 8: water production facilities. We can't rebuild that anytime soon, and

896
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 8: you can literally see it from space if they did.

897
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 8: And then lastly, we've begun to hit, and these Raelis

898
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 8: have begun to hit. Beyond the regime, the apparatus of

899
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 8: the terror regime that Iran uses to suppress its own people,

900
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 8: which is also collapsing around them, we begin to strike

901
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 8: the heavy industry inside Iran, including its steel production. Steel

902
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 8: production is one of its primary exports, and the RGC,

903
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 8: which has its claws into every aspect of the economy.

904
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 8: Some factions control this industry, some factions control that industry.

905
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 8: So while the oil industry is filled relatively intact, the

906
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 8: steel industry has collapsed, and all the factions that depended

907
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 8: on the revenue from that to feather their own nests,

908
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 8: to support their own patronage networks, those are gone. So

909
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 8: now you're increasing the friction within the administration, within the

910
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 8: regime rather, and that friction is becoming quite visible to us.

911
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 8: We were finally beginning to see it leak out into

912
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 8: the open in ways that we hadn't at the outo

913
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 8: of this campaign, which we should remind everybody is four

914
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 8: weeks old. There's still probably a little bit of fighting

915
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 8: to do left, but not all that much. And then

916
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 8: we proceed to the last stage of this campaign, which

917
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 8: I've said for a long time was going to look

918
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 8: less like an unambiguous victory than we'd probably like, because

919
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 8: it means settling with whatever representative we can find it

920
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 8: was a plausible claim to represent this regime, at which

921
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 8: point we then transition to the phase in which we

922
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 8: try to inspire insurrectionary rebellion inside the state.

923
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: So Noah ranking the military side only with zero being

924
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: Desert one, the Iranian hostage rescue that was a disaster

925
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: that actually rebirthed special forces so that they're so lethal now,

926
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: and attend being the Maduro grab.

927
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: Where does this rank in your view?

928
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 8: Well, I would rank it extremely high. It's the most

929
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 8: impressive military campaign that I've ever seen from with my

930
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 8: limit advantage. I'm an amateur student of this sort of thing. Nevertheless,

931
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 8: it's extraordinarily tactically effective. I think the only demerit you

932
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 8: can say is the extent to which the theoretical it's

933
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 8: not even a it's not even a kinetic threat to

934
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 8: those straight of hormones, the theoretical straight to the threat

935
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 8: to the strait of hormuves.

936
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Speaker 2: Not entirely.

937
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 8: They fire off rockets at ships, They hit ships on occasion,

938
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 8: limited damage that they do, but nevertheless enough to prove

939
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 8: the concept that they can reach out and touch tankers

940
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 8: and other assets that transit the hormones straight. But the

941
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 8: fact that that persists and it's having such a negative

942
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 8: impact on the economy and thus an impact on thinking

943
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 8: inside Western capitals, you can see it that has been

944
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 8: a strategic de merit. But that's about the only one.

945
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 8: So if ahead of assign that number two, I give

946
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 8: it up.

947
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: I know you would normally say that thirteen casualties if

948
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: we thought about it, there are thirteen families who do

949
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: not have anyone coming home from this core. And that's

950
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: of course, of course a cost. But so I put

951
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: it about at nine point five. And when you add

952
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: the interoperability with Israel, which is I mean, if you're

953
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: gonna have one ally on your side in this world,

954
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: you want Israel. Now it's China versus US. It's really

955
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: China versus US and Israel I hope, I think, what

956
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: do you think?

957
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would imagine. I don't think. I'm not sure

958
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 8: if Israel has capabilities that can reach outside its region.

959
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 8: It probably does, but at a very limited scale. The

960
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 8: United States is the hyperpower. It can project power to

961
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 8: the other side of the globe in a sustained way

962
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 8: that no other nation on the planet Earth can do.

963
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 8: But between the two of us, we also have a

964
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 8: demonstrated capability now throughout this campaign, which is new, sort

965
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 8: of new in the history of warfare, to execute really

966
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 8: precision strikes on individual leadership targets, and not just decapitation strikes,

967
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 8: but to decimate the entire command and control system, all

968
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 8: the people who have their levers on the buttons everywhere,

969
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 8: when they're sleeping, where they're eating, where they're walking their dog.

970
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 8: That's a kind of intelligence penetration that only Israel can provide.

971
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 8: And though they're capable of executing those sort of strikes,

972
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 8: they couldn't do that with the kind of efficacy that

973
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 8: they've been doing it unless we were coming alongside them

974
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 8: with very heavy order and disrupting RAN's capacity to strike

975
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 8: back in a coordinate it and strategically coherent way. That's

976
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 8: the thing about these leadership strikes is that they've just

977
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 8: limited Yeah, sure there's decentralization on the battlefield, but they've

978
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 8: just limited the ability of these commanders to communicate with

979
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 8: one another and coordinate their strikes in ways that would

980
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 8: really hurt their targets, as they did in twenty nineteen

981
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 8: when they structed out a Rabi as a ram COPD.

982
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: There's clearly the Jedi of the Middle East, and we

983
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: have they're on our side in this campaign. When I

984
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: come back with Noah, what are the naysayers going to

985
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: have to say? Because they can't say, Geeze, that was remarkable.

986
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Noah Rothman, same.

987
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: Where there's from anywhere America. Welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewett.

988
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 1: Noah Rosman has got the hardest job in the world.

989
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: He's got to write a statement for Wendy Sherman and

990
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: John Kerry and Ben Rhoades and Barack Obama and Joe

991
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: Biden and Jake Solomon and Tony Blinken about why this

992
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: isn't the magnificent VI for the world that it is.

993
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: What are they going to say?

994
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 8: Noah, Well, listen, we could channel the candidate in Michigan's

995
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 8: Democratic Senate primary, who, according to the Free Beacons reporting,

996
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 8: was hemming and hawing over how sad Dearborn Michigan was

997
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 8: over the death of Iotola Kameni. So you could say, well, yeah,

998
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 8: I mean military tactics being deployed, says some strategic end

999
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 8: we don't even know. But I can interrupt to get

1000
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 8: Epstein out of the headlines.

1001
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: Dearborn is Arab American.

1002
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: The Iranian regime fired at Arabs and they're destroying Lebanon.

1003
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: So I'm not even sure he's right about Dearborn Michigan,

1004
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: but keep going, what are the jac.

1005
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 8: Yeah he may not be right about that, but there

1006
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 8: does seem to be a level of sentiment in the

1007
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 8: politically active elements of that community, if not.

1008
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 12: The average citizenry.

1009
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1010
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 8: I think the average citizenry are proud to be American.

1011
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 8: Some of them, especially the loudest voices among them, as

1012
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 8: represented for example by the Ilhan Omar, seem very eager

1013
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 8: to support whatever anti American terrorists there is who's active

1014
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 8: and frustrating American interests in killing Americans. But if you

1015
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 8: were to go to AOC for example, who yesterday established

1016
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 8: a new president for herself at the Democratic Socialists of

1017
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 8: America conference, where she said that I oppose even the

1018
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 8: support of Israel in defensive arms, even providing for example,

1019
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 8: for the drones or rather for the Iron Dome, the

1020
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 8: interceptors which limit Israeli casualties from our shared adversaries, has Bela,

1021
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 8: Hamas and Iran. And you'd have to say, I mean,

1022
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 8: if I were to draft a statement as you ask

1023
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 8: for these moderate Democrats, I would run a foul of

1024
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 8: the progressives, because the progressives don't want even the moderate,

1025
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 8: modest concession that maybe this is tactically flawed, maybe there's

1026
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 8: no strategy. Maybe Donald Trump was and doesn't know what

1027
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 8: he's doing. Maybe he's just trying to distract from Epstein

1028
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 8: all the stuff they're saying. But they don't want to

1029
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 8: say that the progressive left. They don't want to say

1030
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 8: that shore maybe Iran's our enemy. They don't want to

1031
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 8: say that the side.

1032
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: Do you think it gets into the water of American

1033
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: politics that the Democrats are anti defending the United States?

1034
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: They really are.

1035
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: They do not want to defend the United States. Do

1036
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: you think it gets into the water table of American politics?

1037
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 8: If Republicans have a competent comms shop, and I hope

1038
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 8: they do, because this is politics one oh one. If

1039
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 8: you do not make this AOC comment in which he's

1040
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 8: basically saying that she wants more dead Israelis by our

1041
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 8: shared adversary's hand. If you don't make that something that

1042
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 8: everybody can repeat by memory, a phrase that is drilled

1043
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 8: into their heads in November, then I don't know why

1044
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 8: you're in politics. This is such a gimme. And yeah,

1045
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 8: you have to tag this party with her comment and

1046
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 8: the DSA's opposition to this war against a terrorist foe

1047
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 8: that has killed hundreds of Americans and tries to kill

1048
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 8: Americans every waking hour of the day. Yeah, you should

1049
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 8: make that the message in November, because the president's legacy

1050
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 8: is tied up with the Iran war.

1051
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: Oh right, in the last pressure of Noah got there.

1052
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 8: The Western hemisphere.

1053
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: There's no way to say it's over. There are three

1054
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: more weeks probably left in this campaign. Bad things could

1055
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: happen in three more weeks. But I do not believe

1056
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: this regime will be with us by the time Donald

1057
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: Trump believes. By that, I mean I think the Iranian

1058
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: people are going to rise up again and there aren't

1059
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: enough There's not enough will to kill them, and maybe

1060
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: Israel well involved.

1061
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: Do you think it lasts longer than Donald Trump?

1062
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 8: I just certainly couldn't say. I hope it does, and

1063
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 8: I think the conditions are there for it to collapse.

1064
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 8: We're right, we should with metronomic regularity twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,

1065
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty two, twenty five, twenty six. This

1066
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 8: regime faces escalating protests from arrestive citizenry, and when it

1067
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 8: happens again, they will be confronted by a regime without

1068
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 8: the apparatus of a terrorist state. That bodes well for

1069
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 8: our interests and not very well for the Iranian regime's interests. Likewise,

1070
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 8: if they were to do this toll booth strategy for

1071
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 8: a very long time, they they'd create a coalition that

1072
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 8: would crush the regime. It's on borrowed time. It's a

1073
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 8: wounded soldier crawling towards safety.

1074
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: They're bleeding.

1075
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 8: They have been resilient in the past.

1076
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: They have no money at all, and the real.

1077
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 8: Is trading I think at one point three million dollars

1078
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 8: to the one to the real or one point three

1079
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 8: to one dollar.

1080
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the other way. So it's just they

1081
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: can't there's.

1082
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 8: Just no currency left, so they don't have any assets.

1083
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: Only oil that comes out one tanker at a time,

1084
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: and that money has to come back one minute.

1085
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1086
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: Uh, what's that paragraph in the history books kind of

1087
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: saying fifty years their Nixon's being written right now? What

1088
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: did they say about Trump?

1089
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: Jeez?

1090
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 8: If the Iranian regime collapses, I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 8: of things you could say if the Iranian regime collapses,

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Speaker 8: if the Venezuelan regime implodes, if Cuba implodes, you know,

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Speaker 8: there could be a you could be talking about a

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Speaker 8: George HW. Bushy and legacy, which is as you get

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Speaker 8: farther and farther away from it, the better and better

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Speaker 8: it looks.

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Speaker 2: So who knows.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, but this is certainly a legacy making

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Speaker 8: moment for this presidency and he'd better see it through

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Speaker 8: to the end because the history books are being written as.

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Speaker 2: We speak, all the way to the end.

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Speaker 11: No, s C.

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Speaker 2: Rothman. I look forward to telling you about.

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Speaker 1: The speech after it occurs. Fall him on exit and

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Speaker 1: osc Rothman read him in the National. Do you listen

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Speaker 1: to him on the editor and come right back to

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Speaker 1: the UUs Show President within the Oval yesterday, give in

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Speaker 1: some remarks. I'll play those for you as a run

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Speaker 1: up to tonight's speech on the US Show on the

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Speaker 1: Talent the Show