1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that. John reveals his least favorite 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: candy and learns what beloved TV special killed the aluminum 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Christmas tree industry. Meanwhile, I have lunchless and comedian piles 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: and tell the tale of the pet rock craze of 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, Plus a conversation about red flags, toxic 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: people and how weaponized therapy talk has led to a 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: loneliness epidemic. Today's episode is not sponsored by Trail Mix. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: It's the Healthiest Way to eat a pound of M 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: and MS, but first award from our actual sponsor. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: Well, Johnny, is that time of year, It's Christmas time 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: in the talk about that city. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: It's Christmas time in the city. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: You know. He's just singing so many like goofy songs 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: and said he was really little, And I asked her 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: the day. She doesn't remember any of them because I 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: would say, it's Christmas time in the Sadie. Oh that's nice, 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: you know, that's any little thing that were so creative 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: and ringing, that's quite. 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 4: That's quite. 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: The vibrato I got this. 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: I think that's the thing is like those old ladies 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: in the church, like Joey Ilo my buddies talking about that, 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: like the old ladies in your church had that natural 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: vibrado that could just memm great. 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: It's always uh, how great that art is always one? 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: How great? 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: It's like so l it's warbly if you get to 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: that big the big finish and how great that art? 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Still I get that, No, I get the heb gbs on. 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: It too, even like the Carry Underwood version where she like, 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty good, right, I don't know, man, 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: Carrie Underwood to me, Carr Underwoods here, kry come on, 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: wants to say something. 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: He's gotta she's amazing. I just yeah, I don't know. 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: It's maybe tigging. So I had lunch yesterday with Carrie 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: Underwood with now. 38 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: Almost as almost as important if you're a right list 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: this time of year, and you asked me if you 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: told me to ask him this, Okay, So I had lunch. 41 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 4: This randomly happened. 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: So I had a lunch with Andrew Stanley, who's my friend, 43 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: who's a comedian, who is the grandson of Charles Stanley, 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: son of Andy Stanley, and he's a comedian. So it's 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: a whole he's quite a departure. Yeah, he's got quite 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: the quite an interesting lineage. But he's a great comic 47 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: and so we were gonna have lunch together because he 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: was in Nashville to do a showcase and a corporate 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: and so he's like, I'm in town. I go, let's 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: get lunch. So we were planning on it, and then 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: out of the blue, because I hooked, I connected with 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: Mark Lowry. In October at this event, we did Who's 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: like the og Christian comedian? Like I mean, from like 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: eighty six on, he was doing stand up in churches 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: and then would do all this youth stuff, youth, youth, youth, 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: and then he always says that, and then he Bill 57 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Gaither saw him and dumped him into a sea of 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: geriatrics and he goes, and that's where I've been ever since. 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: So his whole audience is just older people, but he 60 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: loves him. And now he's an old person himself, so 61 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: he's just like he's in hog Heaven. 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: But anyway, he texts me and goes, what are you doing? 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: Are you in town to My bus is parking in 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: Hendersonville for a couple of days, So if you're in town, 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: let's get lunch or something. I go, well, I'm actually 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: having lunch tomorrow with another comedian or two. I'm having 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: some friends get together, and he goes, oh, I go 68 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: just come along. He goes, are you serious? Like he 69 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: was so excited because he doesn't hang out with comics. 70 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: His whole place is like. 71 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: His whole world is like musicians, and he's the only 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: comedian in his world, right, yeah, so he just craves 73 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: that community. 74 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: And so I loved it so much because he's like 75 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: a little kid still. He's so fun. He's so fun 76 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: and curious and he's a great listener, and so we've 77 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: become fast friends. 78 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, he immediately was like, who's going to. 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: Be there, and so I told him Andrew Stanley and 80 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: he immediately googles him. 81 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: He goes, this guy's hilarious. 82 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Then I go Rick Roberts, who's my friend who's a 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: mentor of mine. 84 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: And he goes, I'm watching his drybar right now. 85 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: He's so excited, all caps, he's so excited, and so 86 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: he showed up early at lunch and we're talking. But 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: you asked me, you go, if you're have lunch at 88 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: the market, are you got to ask him? 89 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Like is this time of year like unbelievable for you 90 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: at the Royal cost Are you? 91 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: Are you? 92 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: Because he wrote Mary, did you know the most like 93 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: iconic Christmas song? 94 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: Originally Christmas song? It has to be in the past 95 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: thirty years. It's almost which I think. 96 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: He said he wrote it in eighty four, which I 97 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: did not know this, you know, you know, he only 98 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 2: wrote the lyrics. 99 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: Buddy Green wrote the music for it. 100 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: Really yeah, so Buddy Green wrote the music, so they're 101 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: both kind of cashing it. But anyway, I asked him. 102 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: I did ask him at much because you go ask 103 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: him what this year here like a kidd and don't 104 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: get a number, but ask him and I go, hey, 105 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: he wants to know, like is this is this everything 106 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: we think? 107 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: He goes, he put down his fork. 108 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: And he goes che chin, which was the best, the best, 109 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: which I always like it when people will admit that 110 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: they're doing it, because people always wanted to diffuse it. 111 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's not what you think. It's a 112 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: lot of taxes, blah blah blah. 113 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I put my pants on one leg at a time, 114 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: just like I have. 115 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: My robot put my pants on for me, just like 116 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: everybody else. 117 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: I put my gold pants on. 118 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyway, he uh, he's doing okay this time 119 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: of year. But that was so fun getting to hang 120 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: out with him. And of course people were I put 121 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: the photo, people are commenting being like. 122 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: Lowry, did you know? 123 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: It was like a whole thing. People are like making 124 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: little songs Johnny, did you know that? 125 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. 126 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: It seems to me that he's the kind of guy 127 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: that's not bothered by being known so well known for 128 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: something like that. 129 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't you know what seems grateful. 130 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: Again, I'm one of these guys when I first meet somebody, 131 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: I kind of make an idealized version of them. It's 132 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: hard for me not to do that, Yeah, I And 133 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: then as you get to know me, you're like, oh 134 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: I started. You start to see like the little flaws 135 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: and stuff, and you're like, oh, this is interesting. His 136 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: personality gets more rounded out. So I am definitely like 137 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: vulnerable to that. But I will say from the interactions 138 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: I've had with him, which I mean I spent almost 139 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: two hours with him yesterday, he seems very at peace 140 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: with himself. Yeah, And I really like that in a 141 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: person like I don't like overly confident people, like supremely 142 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: certain and confident people. Really are unsettling to me, Yeah, 143 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: because I just don't understand how you even do art, 144 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: Like you need to have confidence in like I have 145 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: confidence in my art the way you would have confidence in. 146 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: A bridge that you've built. 147 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I've. 148 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: Walked across it enough to know it's not going to fall. 149 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: You may not want to drive, Yeah, but I would 150 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: never be like, but I'll step off the bridge and 151 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: I'll just take this bold move and it'll be just 152 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: there'll be a bridge that will appear like. 153 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 4: I don't have that kind There are people who have 154 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: that kind of confidence. 155 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: They're like, I've built this bridge, now I can just 156 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: take this wild leap and there'll be a net underneath me. 157 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't feel that. I feel confidence in the bridge 158 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: I've built. So when I see people who are like 159 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: unnaturally confident in every move they make, it's very unsettling 160 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: to me. But I do love people who are at 161 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: peace with themselves and what they've built and what they've made, 162 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: and they don't feel like they're still churning underneath. 163 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: How are we friends? I don't know, because you just 164 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: described to me. No, it's interesting we've said it. I 165 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: think last episode someone recently told me that the opposite 166 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: of faith is not doubt. The opposite of faith is certainty. Okay, yeah, 167 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: which is such an interesting idea because when you're certain, yeah, 168 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: you you you believe the wrong thing. 169 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 170 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: Well, in faith, you're believing something that you can't see, 171 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: and that you're in certainty, you're believing something that you 172 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: think you can see. 173 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: And it's like faith, hope, love, the greatest of these 174 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: is love. And it's like all these will pass away 175 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: except for love. And it's like you told, you said 176 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: that one time to me. You said, well, yeah, when 177 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: we get to heaven, we won't need hope anymore. Yeah, 178 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: because you've accomplished not waiting for it, and you're not 179 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: waiting for it anymore, So you don't need helpe. You 180 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: don't need faith because your faith has been confirmed faith, 181 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: you're seeing the fruit of it. So we'll still have love, 182 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: though love is this eternal thing, but like, yeah, it's 183 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: hard to imagine that. 184 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know. 185 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: I try to be at peace with what I'm building 186 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: while also pushing farther and trying to get the most 187 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: out of the sponge and trying to squeeze the sponge 188 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: at this point and get the most out of my gift. 189 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: But when I see somebody who's been doing it his 190 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: whole life, and you go, oh, this person feels like 191 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: he's kind of at peace with his legacy and where 192 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: he's at and what he's doing now. And he still 193 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: seems to love his audience. Like he talked about going 194 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: into me and he's talking to me and John Christ 195 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: about he goes into the audience and like tells jokes 196 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 2: to people. 197 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: He goes, I can't wait to get out there. He goes, 198 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: I have a follow up spot that follows. 199 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: Me into the audience, and the camera moves and goes, 200 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: it's on the screens and me and John Chris are 201 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: looking at him like, this is the most terrifying thing 202 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: to go into the audience and just like go out 203 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: on a limb and like tell an old story to 204 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: some person who's just there, who's a stranger. But he 205 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: doesn't see them that way. That's so that's what makes 206 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: him the most excited about his show. And I was like, 207 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: what an interesting alien thing to me it is? 208 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: And you know, it's so funny all the data even 209 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 3: And I'm writing a book for a guy right now 210 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: and it's talking about digital health, but also like the 211 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: process even the what the social sciences say in research 212 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: about connection with other people. Yeah, and that's what's so 213 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 3: interesting is how we've gotten away from human connectivity being 214 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: what actually brings us a sense of fulfillment. And so 215 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: when we get it in the I want to I 216 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: don't want to call it all fake if it's online, 217 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: but if nothing else it is, I think it's like 218 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: since that diluted. You know, right, You're you're getting maybe 219 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: interaction with a person, but you're not getting the same 220 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: And those I think who really harness it. And this 221 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: guy I'm writing for, it's the same kind of way. 222 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: He's the kind of guy with the whole part called 223 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: Delta diaries because he's flying a lot to speak and 224 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: doing ted talks and stuff, and he's like, if you 225 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: sit next to me on a plane, I don't really 226 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: care if you have headphones in or not, like I'm 227 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: going to try to connect with you. And that he 228 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: he'll send me pictures like hey, I just met these people, 229 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: and you know, we'll get their life story. And he 230 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: has these he calls it generative generative dialogue where instead 231 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: of just like hey, what do you do for a living. 232 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: It's more like, Hey, what is it that you're most 233 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: excited about or what are you most proud of about 234 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: in your life in the last thirty days. That's a 235 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: stranger that yeah, right, or or you know, how do 236 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: you spend your day? Like, instead of saying what do 237 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: you do for a living? How do you spend your days? 238 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 239 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: And so like they have, they get something broader and 240 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: they'll start sharing and by the end, you know, it's 241 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: not for everybody. He's like he gets it, but yeah, yeah, 242 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: but that and it's so like as an introvert, it's 243 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: so like I just and he'll say sometimes I'll put 244 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: my metals, don't have to riote, or I'll watch a 245 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: movie or something. 246 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: But he gets energy from connecting with people. 247 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: And I think everybody does to some degree. It's just 248 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: that they get out of the habit of it, right, 249 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: you know. It's like, but like you said, it's synthetic. 250 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: The online version is a synthetic version. It's like I 251 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: had a friend who, well, I'm not a friend, a 252 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: friend of a friend who was coming off of they 253 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: had an addiction to OxyContin and it was a friend's 254 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: sister and they so they go on method which is 255 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 2: how you come off of heroin. So it's like it's 256 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: a synthetic but it's got a lower level of addiction, 257 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: but you're still kind of on the methodon and they 258 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: were on the methadone for years. You're supposed to taper off, 259 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: and they could not tape off the methadone. But it's 260 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: like you don't gearly get high. It just takes away 261 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: the sickness, Like you don't get the high like you 262 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: would from the heroin hit or from oxy contin hit 263 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: the opioid, but you're getting like I don't feel like 264 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: I have the flu all day. So I think that's 265 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: what the online version of connection feels like. It's like, 266 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: well it feels close enough, and I don't have to 267 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: take the risks, and it's conditioning. 268 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: Us to not go out. 269 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 2: And like he said that, Mark said that yesterday, he goes, 270 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: do you guys get together all the time. I think 271 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: he thought there's some league of comics that he's missed 272 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: out on, and we always get together, and now he 273 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: got to be a part of it. 274 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: And I go, no, I don't even like we don't know. 275 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: I go, this was all happenstance, And I said some 276 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: of them are here because they heard you were going 277 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: to be here and they wanted to meet you. I said, 278 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: Once you added, I was like, it was he for 279 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: me to go, hey, Rick, do you want to come? 280 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: Mark Lowry's coming, and he was like, are you kidding? 281 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: They all came, and so it's like we all have 282 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: this version of vision of like what the community looks like. 283 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: But it was fun to kind of participate in that 284 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: and see it and like you said, it's not this 285 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: synthetic version of it. Jason Pardon, who's one of my 286 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: favorite content creators, he talked about how like the closest 287 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: thing to a conspiracy theory that he believes in is 288 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: that right now, we're being conditioned to dehumanize each other 289 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: online so that we only seek connection online. Like when 290 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: he goes, whenever you see a video, it's always the 291 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: advice is always like this person's a red flag or 292 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: this is a toxic person. How to cut these people 293 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: out of your life? Right, he goes, every other article 294 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: is about that. He goes, these are dehumanizing terms. Yeah, 295 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: so that it makes us only think that the only 296 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: safe place is behind a screen. 297 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: It also conditions you to think that the loneliness you 298 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: feel is normal, right, right, and that if you just 299 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: get more of it, you know. The World Health Organization 300 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: has basically said loneliness is now a global pandemic, like 301 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: like this is a different we're gonna where I think 302 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: they call it an epidemic. Sorry, I'm not sure the 303 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,119 Speaker 3: major differences. My wife is screaming right now, that's okay, 304 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: But like this idea that I can cut people out 305 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: and I'm not. 306 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: Guys, obviously there's a. 307 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: Time and place that people are afraid to even make 308 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: those savements because they're fraid. 309 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: You're like, well, you don't understand my father in law 310 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: abuse me. 311 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: We're not talking about that, right, We're talking about like 312 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: if somebody choose loud with their at their with their food, 313 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: and or your mom is annoying. Yeah, everybody's mom is annoying. 314 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: Guess what, so are you. 315 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 4: But he goes there's a. 316 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: Thing of like making your idiosyncrasies like sacred and if 317 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: somebody can't handle me at my worst, then you don't 318 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: deserve me at my best. But when they're annoying, you go, 319 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,359 Speaker 2: you're toxic. Now, that's the part of it that's conditioning 320 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: us to be very alone. 321 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's the using the saw it again yesterday, 322 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: using the therapy language as a reason to have someone 323 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: to blame versus to have the tools to change. It's 324 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: all supposed to be the tools for you to change, 325 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: not for you to try to change others. 326 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you can't guess what you can't change others. 327 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: No, it's exhausting, Listen. 328 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: I told Sadi the other day, we were talking about it, 329 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: and it was one of these like little aphorisms in 330 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: my head of like, look, there'll be a lot of 331 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: things in life that you're going to be able to change, 332 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: and none of them will be people. 333 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 334 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: There's an old therapy term that I read in the 335 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: book one time, and it said, no matter how much 336 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: you want it to, if their cat won't bark like, 337 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: you can't make their cat bark like, they are what 338 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: they are, and you have to. 339 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: Change you either adapt to it. 340 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: Now, obviously, if there's somebody toxic and you feel like 341 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: they're destructive and all that, that's not what we're talking 342 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: about again. It feels like we have to keep giving 343 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: that qualifying statement. But it's like if you go, I'm 344 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: not going home for Thanksgiving because they're all toxic. It's like, 345 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: you know what you're probably toxic to, you know, like 346 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: there's toxic things about all of this. 347 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: There's got to be about there, and there are consequences 348 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: to actions, and I think the holidays is an interesting time. 349 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: It is the thing I read the other day that 350 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: I thought was cool. The big summation is people that 351 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: put up walls versus boundaries, Like people use boundaries. That's 352 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: a big therapy term, but I never heard it really 353 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: described this way. They said, a wall is something you 354 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: put up that says you can't get to me. A 355 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: boundary shows them where the door is. 356 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: Right. 357 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: I really like that, Yeah, because that's true. That says, hey, 358 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: here's the boundary. There's a way though, there's a way forward. 359 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: Mom. 360 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: If you've said an offensive thing to my child, or 361 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: you've said things, or I've decided that whatever whatever past 362 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: pain you've put me through, there's still a doorway. 363 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: Whether it's I. 364 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: Forgive you, you forgive me, we move on, or you're 365 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: let's not let's talk around to this, let's get forward. 366 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: But it's like, if you just put up a wall, 367 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: you've decided like that person's out of my life forever. 368 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 4: That's not a way forward. 369 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I don't know, no, And I think again, 370 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: the caveat always remains right that you know that you 371 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: know we're we're there are things that gonna be done 372 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: that can make it where Okay, we're not going to 373 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: see each other for a long time or whatever. 374 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: And you're talking about me. 375 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 376 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, But there's a door here, Johnny. There is a door, 377 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: and oddly enough that door leads through our ads. 378 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: Oh. I couldn't believe it when they told me, Hey, go. 379 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: Through this door with us, dear listener, and let's hear 380 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: a few words from more fine sponsors. 381 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Hey we're back, Johnny. 382 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: We got deep there? 383 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Hey what really? 384 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: Deeply? 385 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: I think we have solved it, though I do. I 386 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: think everybody walked away. 387 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: Some people listn't honestly heading into the holidays that could 388 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: have really given some people. 389 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: Extra anxiety. Yeah, because this is a time, Like therapist, 390 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: I definitely don't. 391 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: Want to accuse somebody of just being like you're giving 392 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: up on your family if you feel like you've got 393 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: real past trauma, I'm really not talking to that person. 394 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: I think hopefully you know what I'm talking. Well, let 395 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: me say this. I'll do this in thirty seconds. I'll 396 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: do this in sixty second boy. Like in twelve step recovery, 397 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: there's three different steps that we all think of outside 398 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: of that world as one, and we think of forgiveness 399 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: and reconciliation and amends. 400 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: All is one thing, and it's not. 401 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: Forgiveness in the twelve step world is something you don't 402 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: have to have the other person around to do because 403 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: it's between the Christian side. It's between you and God. 404 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: You can forgive them and you can deal with all that. 405 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: Then amends is something that's just between it's just you 406 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 3: to them. It's not you don't expect to return necessarily, 407 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: and you do not acknowledge what they have done, even 408 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: if they started it or you have all these reasons 409 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 3: that are that are valid. Once you've forgiven, then you 410 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: have to make amends for what you've done wrong, right, 411 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: But you don't say, hey, I did this because you 412 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: did this, even if it's valid. You just own only 413 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: your part, not their part, just only your apart. But 414 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: you own it fully and unapologetically. Well it is apologetically, yeah, 415 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: but it's not. It's not for the sake of getting 416 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: it's not transactional. Those two things you're supposed to do 417 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: forgiveness and amends. The third one, which is reconciliation, which 418 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 3: is one of the final steps that may not happen. Yeah, 419 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: and you accept that because reconciliation requires both parties to 420 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 3: come to the table and to be willing to actually 421 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 3: acknowledge all the things. And so they have to own 422 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: their part in order for reconciliation to happen. And you 423 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: want to own yours. But the key to health is 424 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: is you have to be open to reconciliation. So you 425 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: may not happen, but you have to at least have, 426 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: like you said, have a door. Now, I think timing matters, right, 427 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: You can't just because you have to then give them 428 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: the respect of going through their own process, which and 429 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: then knowing they may never get there. And so I 430 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: think that may help a little bit, as you had 431 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: in But actually my quote for today may help a 432 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: little bit. Heading into the Christmas season, we need help. 433 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: It may not sound like a Christmas quote, which only 434 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: I think I may help us. Mind segment we call. 435 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: They talked about that Dallas Willard can't ever go wrong. No, 436 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: I have my staples, you know this, So I do have. 437 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: The clife staples. 438 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: The sense of spiritual formation thus understood, require sorry the processes. 439 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: A spiritual formation, thus understood, require precise, testable, thorough knowledge 440 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 3: of the human self. Psychological and theological understanding of the 441 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: spiritual life must go hand in hand. Neither of them 442 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: is complete without the other. A psychology that is Christian 443 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: in the sense of a comprehensive understanding of the facts 444 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: of spiritual life and growth should be a top priority 445 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 3: for disciples of Jesus, particularly those who work in the 446 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 3: various fields of psychology and who consider it an intellectual 447 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: and practical discipline. No understanding of the human self can 448 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: be theoretical, theoretically or practically adequate if it does not deal. 449 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: With the spiritual self. 450 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: So I was thinking about people heading into the holidays 451 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: because my therapist, you know, who's a friend of mine 452 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: as well. It is like, man, his phone is blown up. Oh, 453 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure in these times it brings out all of 454 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: these these crises. And I think that you know, and 455 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 3: this is pretty revolutionary for a guy who is older, 456 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: a theologian who was older, to say, hey, we got 457 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: to deal with the marriage of our spirituality with our 458 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: psychology and not try to silo them. Right that I 459 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: can't have a thorough understanding of myself or the human 460 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: self if I'm not dealing with both sides. And even 461 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: because they're really not two sides, they're actually together. I 462 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: think that the modern desire to like categorize our various 463 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: selves as being independent from the other leads to this 464 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: sort of lack of health, like physiologically, which would be 465 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 3: how your body and your psychology go together. It's so 466 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: important to have an understanding that you have a mind, 467 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: but it is contained in a brain, which is an 468 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: organ of your body, right, and so brain health and 469 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: mental health are connected. Yeah, it's not just And I've 470 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: really going through I think the last you know, ten 471 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: years or so, I really like and looking back over 472 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 3: youth ministry and all the times I think we loved kids. Well, 473 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: it's not that, but my lack of understanding about like 474 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 3: the mental health side of things that is chemical or 475 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: that is neurological, or that is a neuropathway, and recognizing 476 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: that what is reflected in our spirituality about hey, believing 477 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: the right things, you know, believing what God says about 478 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: you and not what your worst thoughts say about you. 479 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: Recognizing that that's not separate from the fact that if 480 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 3: you if you, you know, take brain waves of those things, 481 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: that it will also prove to be true on the 482 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: scientific side, that a belief, a wrong belief over time 483 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: creates literally like a ditch in your brain, like another neuropathy. 484 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 4: Feeling prophecy kind of thing. 485 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: Right, So, coming to the place of going how do 486 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: how do I live? And not just I think my 487 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: takeaway for Christmas for all of us would be like, hey, 488 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: give yourself a break and realize that you are a 489 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: full human with a brain, a mind, a soul, a heart, 490 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: a body, and that instead of just thinking you have 491 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: to muscle your way or you know, grip your way 492 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: through something difficult, work on being good with the idea 493 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 3: that you are whole and that there're gonna be things 494 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: you're not good at yet, some relationships that aren't where 495 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: they need to be yet, there's gonna be opportunities to 496 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 3: grow right, to try to push yourself and all of 497 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: those are just a part of you as a person. 498 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: And you don't have to suddenly be some mental health 499 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: guru in a moment that the rest of your life 500 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: hasn't caught up with. And you also don't have to 501 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 3: over spiritualize everything, but recognize you. 502 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: In my opinion, you can't we. 503 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: Spiritualized unless you use spiritual things as a distraction from reality, 504 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: right right. If you're not applying your spiritual things to reality, 505 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 3: you're trying to claim reality to be different than it is, 506 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: as opposed to saying, hey, I see what is I 507 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: accept it. Also, I believe that God's ways lead to 508 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: growth and change, but I'm gonna take the baby steps 509 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: of those things, because, by the way, guys, in the 510 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: spiritual life, every step is a baby step. 511 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: I really believe that. 512 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: I'm like, if we're children of God, then every step 513 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 3: is a child's step. Like I'm not gonna make some 514 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 3: massive two mile stride in a day that doesn't exist. 515 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 3: If I'm following Jesus all the metaphors he gave, or 516 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: to walk after him, it is a walk, which means 517 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: I can only take today's step. Then it's gonna feel small, 518 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: but it's not small. If I learn to like, okay, 519 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: I guess receive my humanity without the judgment, because Jesus 520 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: is already paid for the judgment, right, so I can 521 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: now not excuse myself and all my bad patterns and all. 522 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: But I can accept them for what they are and 523 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: begin trying to create new patterns and recognize that there 524 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 3: are a lot of tools out there in the in 525 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: the therapy world and psychology world and the things that 526 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: will be helpful, but they're not going to override my humanity. 527 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: And they're also not gonna have to be separate from 528 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: my spirituality if I access to them correctly. That all 529 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: truth is God's truth, and what God has given us 530 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: in the spiritual world will prove to be beneficial in 531 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: the psychological and physical world as well if we just 532 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: live more holistically towards them. And there's a lot of 533 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: big buzzwords there, but hopefully, Johnny, you'll do something with 534 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: it and you finally get out of your funk. 535 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: I just can't take another Christmas like this with you. 536 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 4: I know, so I'm sorry. I'm toxic. 537 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: Just like we talked about before. 538 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 4: You got it. 539 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: You've got to make amends and then we'll talk. I'm 540 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: working on it. 541 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: So let's do my segment, John. To wrap up, Let's 542 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: start with Johnny sell jokes. We call it joke about that. 543 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: John. 544 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: When I get a headache, I take two aspirin and 545 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: keep away from children, just like the bottle says, I 546 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: never heard that one. 547 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: Kids. 548 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: I sound like a person that I think. People assume 549 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: that I'm a person that doesn't like children because I 550 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: don't have children, but I actually do it. 551 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Will they be surprised to find out that that's true, 552 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: that you don't like children? 553 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: But it's totally John a DA officer stopped at a 554 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: ranch in Texas and talked with an old rancher. He 555 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: told the rancher, I need to inspect your ranch for 556 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: illegally grown drugs. The ranchers said, okay, but don't go 557 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: in that field over there. As he pointed over pointed 558 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: out the location, the DA officer yelled, mister, I have 559 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: the authority of the federal government with me. Reaching into 560 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: his rear pants pocket, the arrogant officer removed his badge 561 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: and proudly displayed it to the rancher. See this badge. 562 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: This badge means I'm allowed to go wherever I wish, 563 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: on any land. No questions asked, any answers given. Have 564 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: I made myself clear? Do you understand? The ranchers nodded, 565 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: politely apologized went about his chorge. Short time later, the 566 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: old rancher heard loud screams, looked up and saw the 567 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: DA officer running for his life, being chased by the 568 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: rancher's big bull. 569 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: With every step, the bull. 570 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: Was gaining great on the officer, and it seemed like 571 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: he'd sure enough be gored before he reached safety. 572 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: The officer was clearly terrified. 573 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: The rancher threw down his tools, ran to the fence, 574 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: and yelled at the top of his lungs, your badge, 575 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: show him your badge. I love that kind of joke. 576 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: The whole like the authority or the elite gets kind 577 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: of done over by the slowly farmer. Yeah, it's just 578 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: kind of a funny type of joke. Turning the tables. 579 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 4: John the monkey died in the zoo. 580 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the zoo was unable to find a monkey for 581 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 2: its exhibition, so it hired a guy to put a 582 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: monkey suit on and take over the monkey duties. 583 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: The guy did a great job. 584 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: He was jumping around in the monkey cage until suddenly 585 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: he fell out of the monkey cage and into the 586 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: lions den. He started to scream help, help as the 587 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: lion ran towards him. The lion finally came face to 588 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 2: face with the monkey. He said, shut the heck up 589 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: before you get us both fired. I've never heard any 590 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: of those. Those are all three like new jokes that 591 00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: I'd never heard. 592 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: Funny stuff. 593 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: John, let's move forwards. This week in history, we call 594 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: it talk about then, John. This Week nineteen sixty five 595 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: A Charlie Brown Christmas, the first in a series of 596 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: Peanuts television specials, it debuted. 597 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: The show featured characters created by Charles M. 598 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: Schultz, of course, including Charlie Brown, Linus, Lucy, and of course, 599 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: Charlie Brown's dog Snoopy. Nearly half of the American households 600 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: that had a television set tuned into. 601 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 4: A Wow, that's crazy. 602 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 603 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 4: Love it. 604 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: I love hearing stuff like that, when you like we 605 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: were it's that thing of. 606 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: Like we're less, we're more divided than ever probably, you know, 607 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: a if you count the number of people per capitol, 608 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: like how divided we feel. But when everybody was watching 609 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: the same thing on television, I think that had a 610 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: role to play and like we all had something to 611 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 2: talk about the next day that we shared in common. 612 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, even it was just around the water cooler anyway. 613 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: The production costs succeeded its meager budget of seventy six 614 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: thousand by twenty thousand and so it cost ninety six 615 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: thousand to make, I guess, but it has earned millions 616 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: as a seasonal staple of the Christmas television lineup. The 617 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 2: special also killed this is my favorite part and that's 618 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: why it makes the list. The special also killed the 619 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: aluminum Christmas tree fad that had been popular since the 620 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: late fifties. So this came out in sixty five, so 621 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: people were moving to aluminum Christmas trees evidently between nineteen 622 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: sixty five or nineteen fifty to nineteen sixty five. Within 623 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: two years of the specials airing the Charlie Brown with 624 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: Charlie Brown insisting on a real and not fake tree, 625 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 2: aluminum tree manufacturing had all but seased. 626 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: So it had this real mark on the culture economic Yeah, 627 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: because even though he. 628 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: Had the tiny, little horrible tree that was kind of 629 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: like authentic, but it was authentic, and they were like 630 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: they could look over at their illumin tree, go, we 631 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: do have a fake, awful tree. 632 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 4: Don't And it killed the aluminum tree industry. Wow. And 633 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: a lot of people lost jobs. John a lot of people. 634 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: Event industory. 635 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that Johnny's granddad worked in the illuminum tree Mindes. 636 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: John George renn Andre was born this week eighteen fifty six. 637 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: He was an American candy maker. He invented candy corn 638 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: in the eighteen eighties while working for the Wonderful Wonderful 639 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: Candy Company. 640 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: That's it's spelled wonderful. 641 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: It began selling it an eighteen eighty eight. It was 642 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: originally called chicken feed. 643 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: That's because it looked I couldn't in my mind, there 644 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: was no way to make candy corn worse than it was. 645 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: They just call it chicken feed. 646 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 4: Love it or hated. 647 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: Candy corn is now Halloween staple after becoming a popular 648 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: trick or treat candy in the nineteen fifties, John, what 649 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: do you think the worst candy is? Because obviously we're 650 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: not we're not candy corn people. Some people like the 651 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: little pumpkins but don't like candy corn. I think that's interesting. 652 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: They like the big what. 653 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what it's called, but there used to be. 654 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: It's like in a it reminds me of the color of 655 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns orange. Oh yeah, and it's like just 656 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: this peanut butter. I feel like it's peanut butter. I 657 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: don't know what it is. I'm not sure. 658 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: Black the orange and black orange and blappers and those 659 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: are peppers nasty, yeah, Tim Hawkins, you just say it 660 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: tastes like peanut butter and hair, burnt hair. 661 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 4: Peanut butter and burnt hair. Yes, so you don't have 662 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: a name. 663 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't think. 664 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if they make those anymore. 665 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: It's like when you used to go to your grandma's 666 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: house and she would always have a dish of those 667 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: strawberry candies. 668 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that look like the raw wrappers look like some strawberries. Like, 669 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: we're who bought those? They just appeared in those dishes, right, 670 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: you can't see that. You don't find them, No, they 671 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: just were They were at grandma. And those are Walgreens 672 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: type candies. Yeah, probably get them at a drug store maybe, yeah, 673 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: rex al Revo right aid. 674 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Yeah, I don't know what's the most underrated 675 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: candy though? 676 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: What do you think like doesn't get enough love? 677 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: Because like people love hating on candy, but like what's 678 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: the one where you go like this needs more press? 679 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: Rollos? Rollos are good? You know what I love? One 680 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: hundred grand. One hundred grand is a good candy. 681 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like a good I do. I feel 682 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: like Laura and I. We don't get candy bars very often. Yeah, 683 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: but like she doesn't like a milky way. No, wait, 684 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: she doesn't like a three musket teers. Really I love 685 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: too much? Oh yeah, they're fluffy. I like the fleas 686 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: eat all the chocolate off of the side before I 687 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: got it. 688 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: Weird. 689 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: I do some weird stuff. Yeah, I don't know, just 690 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: a savor it. 691 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: It feels lighter as a candy bar. You feel like 692 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: you're not being weighed down because it's so fluffy. But 693 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: maybe people who really love chocolate are like, this isn't rich. 694 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: Enough for me. 695 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: It's not giving me enough of the it's just the sin. 696 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: Only as the con teers. I think something may be 697 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 3: wrong with I mean, there's nothing really to go. You 698 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: just said something wrong with your wife. But go ahead, okay, 699 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: keep going. Yeah, ruin Christmas, very Christmas every John Finally 700 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: born this week nineteen thirty six. The creator of the 701 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: pet rock, Gary Dahl. He's an American entrepreneur. He created 702 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: the pet rock in nineteen seventy five. While sitting in 703 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: a bar listening to people complaining about their pets. He 704 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: joked that he had the perfect pet a rock. 705 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: He invented this, he had sold for three ninety five 706 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: in nineteen centy. It made him a millionaire, and the 707 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: fad lasted about six months. We were kind of buying 708 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: this ironically, wow, but it lasted. The fad lasted long 709 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: enough to make this guy a millionaire. 710 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: Why can't we do something like that? We have no 711 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: ideas all the time that people think are stupid. 712 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: They could pay us for knowing it's stupid, Johnny, we 713 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 3: got to big, I might say, that's what we've done. 714 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: Big enough stupid ideas you could pay for, john How 715 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: would you become a patron of the show? 716 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: You got to talk about that podcast dot click. 717 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: On the uppright hand link. That's how you get ad 718 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: free content. We love our patrons. Thanks so much for 719 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: supporting the show, and we are we can continue to 720 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: keep growing and downloads and listen, so thanks for that, 721 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: and make sure to share the show and you know, 722 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: subscribe so that you get notified when a new episode 723 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: comes out. 724 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 4: All that good sense. 725 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: It's been a particularly busy season, especially with Johnny's travel. 726 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm kind of busy on my end too. Thank you 727 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: guys for like being with us. In it because it's 728 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: been we get a lot of emails and stuff right now. 729 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool and we love hearing from you. 730 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: We'll read some of those next week on the show, 731 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: I promise, But we love hearing from you, so keep 732 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: sending those. You can send an email to Hello talk 733 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: about that podcast dot com. Find tour dates of mine 734 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: at johnnyw dot com. We're getting ready to announce a 735 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: big forty eight city tour that's going to be nationwide 736 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. 737 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: So I'm probably coming to your city. 738 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 2: Uh, and it's gonna be I'm very excited and so 739 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: keep keep an eye out for that. I think that 740 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: announcement goes out on the fifteenth and tickets will go 741 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: and sell them in nineteenth for those dates. 742 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, of December. 743 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: It's exciting. 744 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, very cool. 745 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be there. Thank you, not the whole time. 746 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, you have a family. 747 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: I do. 748 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: So, Hey, guys, thanks for telling you gave us today. 749 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: Man. I hope you're having a build up to a 750 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: very merry Christmas. And we'll see you next week here 751 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: on talk about that.