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<v Speaker 1>the Big Weekend Pod. A great, great show today. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>down my leadoff hitter with John Ellis. He's out, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will be joined by Eli Lake, who will bat

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<v Speaker 1>both first and second. Then Matt Connetty will come along

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<v Speaker 1>second and third, and Big Ben domination in the cleanup

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<v Speaker 1>spot as usual. And we're gonna add just in case

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<v Speaker 1>you missed it, Havevive Reddy Gore from yesterday. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>additional fifty minutes. If it looks like it's very long.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have already heard uh havev talking to you

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<v Speaker 1>on yesterday's podcast, but if you didn't, you definitely want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what he had to say to me on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the Big Weekend Pod, Havevive is making an

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<v Speaker 1>extra special appearance, so don't miss a minute of today's

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<v Speaker 1>big weekend Pod. I'm Hewett inside the Beltway bringing you

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday week in Review edition. Now jarn ellis is missing,

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<v Speaker 1>so batting leadoff and in the two hole today, Eli

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Eli is with the Free Press. He's the host

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<v Speaker 1>of breaking histories, a man of extraordinary accomplishments, including, as

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<v Speaker 1>you will hear in the next segment, a facility with

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<v Speaker 1>ai and music. But Eli, let's begin with the war

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<v Speaker 1>that's been suspended while the President has been in China,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what I think happened. The ceasefire that is

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<v Speaker 1>in the ceasefire was kept at a low level of violence.

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<v Speaker 1>But the big new development today Michael Waltz of the

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<v Speaker 1>UN and posted, and I just reposted on X pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of eighty thousand barrels of oil that Iran is just

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<v Speaker 1>dumping into the Persian Gulf because they've gotten nowhere to

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<v Speaker 1>put it. We've gotten to mac storage and Iran faster

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<v Speaker 1>than we had. Nevertheless, I am hoping that when the

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<v Speaker 1>President touched it down, kinetic actions combat operations resume immediately

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<v Speaker 1>against Iran. What say you?

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<v Speaker 2>The most important thing is that we continue the freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of navigation operations and we defend vessels. I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>already cleared a path that is mind free, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have to establish that, and there will be kinetic action

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<v Speaker 2>as part of it, because the Iranians have attacked US

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<v Speaker 2>destroyers and they've attacked other ships. But it should be

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<v Speaker 2>the main the main focus, I think should be at

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<v Speaker 2>least that, and then if there are as we've been

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<v Speaker 2>led to believe, although it's it's very interesting, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm did you catch Admiral Brad Cooper's testimony on the

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<v Speaker 2>Hill yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, So he was he made a pretty he

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<v Speaker 2>sort of said these estimates that we didn't hit anything,

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<v Speaker 2>or that you know, we we still have they still

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<v Speaker 2>have something like ninety percent of their missiles. Not true.

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<v Speaker 2>We've destroyed their ability to make missiles. And he went

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<v Speaker 2>through all of the kind of military success countering leaks

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<v Speaker 2>in the Washington Post and the New York Times. So

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<v Speaker 2>if but I'm glad to believe that there are still

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<v Speaker 2>other conventional military targets. So that would be nice to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of take off the board as well if hostilities resume.

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<v Speaker 2>But the main thing is demonstrating that theed that the

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<v Speaker 2>US Navy, hopefully with allies, can bring international shipping through

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<v Speaker 2>the straight of hor moves without being harassed and hit

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<v Speaker 2>by the Iranian the IRGC.

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<v Speaker 1>Navy, Eli, your fabulous colleague at the Free Press. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>McClain was on with Mark Dubovitz on the FBD Iran

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<v Speaker 1>Breakdown podcast. Rarely do I listen to podcasts twice. I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to this twice in one day because there are

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<v Speaker 1>two guys who actually know what they're talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>great detail. Yep, the freedom of navigation, the opening of

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<v Speaker 1>the battle of our moves via a variety of techniques.

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<v Speaker 1>They discussed that in detail. They did not discuss adding

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<v Speaker 1>down to Iran from the air with a new targeting

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<v Speaker 1>assessment that the Israelis in the United States will have

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<v Speaker 1>developed and going back after the leadership, don't you think

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<v Speaker 1>we in for a dollar in for everything?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think that it would be it

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<v Speaker 2>would send an important message that you're still not safe.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that if you I mean, I reject the

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<v Speaker 2>argument that we heard for a lot of the war

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<v Speaker 2>critics that you got rid of Haminae and you got

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<v Speaker 2>an even more hardline regime. It's ridiculous to me, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, under Kamenee and Larajani, they murdered

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<v Speaker 2>maybe up to forty two thousand. That's the number present.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crime in the century and maybe to two centuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Stalin killed a lot more, Mouth killed a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>But in thirty six hours, it's tough to beat that.

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<v Speaker 2>Number, right in terms of right per per minute, per

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<v Speaker 2>per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So in that respect, I just you know, would say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you feel that Vahiti, who is the commander currently

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<v Speaker 2>of the IRGC, is an obstacle, well then take him

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<v Speaker 2>out and you know, cause more fracturing. He has to

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<v Speaker 2>finish the job, and I think in the end, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully it leads to the collapse of the regime. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the very least he's got to open up the

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<v Speaker 2>straits and prove to everybody that this is that that

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<v Speaker 2>that the that the bully is newter, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's I think the key thing.

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<v Speaker 1>President Jump did say at one point I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take out every bridge and power plant. Any backed away

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<v Speaker 1>from that, there is an argument to be made that

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to cripple the regime. If we can't dislodge

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<v Speaker 1>the top five hundred people, I'm sorry, people of Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever want to be free, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>cripple your regime, and that means your oil facilities and

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<v Speaker 1>power plants to serve any part of the IRGC ought

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<v Speaker 1>we to go back with a bombing plan to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it will take thirty years or rebuild, not three.

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<v Speaker 2>In my if you taking out power plants would be

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake because the people would pay much greater price,

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<v Speaker 2>I think than anybody in the regime. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>can make a very good argument for beginning to go

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<v Speaker 2>after the oil facilities, and even though there's take a

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<v Speaker 2>lot longer, and if you think about it, the damage

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<v Speaker 2>done by excess capacity on the wells is also something

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<v Speaker 2>that will take a long time to rebuild as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So in that respect, I don't really have a problem

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<v Speaker 2>going after sources of revenue for the regime. My issue

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<v Speaker 2>is that if you take out a power plant for

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<v Speaker 2>a major city, and there are quite a few in Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>then you really are are adding an incredible burden to

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<v Speaker 2>just the Iranian people that hopefully, in the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day will take to the streets to reclaim their country,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is the sort of endpoint that I

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<v Speaker 2>still think is both possible and most desirable.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the optim ending and I'm thinking about plunging them

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<v Speaker 1>into darkness. Maybe you do it by cyber Okay Topic

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<v Speaker 1>number two eli Nick Kristaff, Hugh Ewit's theory is anti Semitism,

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<v Speaker 1>writ large, begins in the heart to spiritual disease, and

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<v Speaker 1>it metastasizes to the head, to the brain, and the

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<v Speaker 1>brain can offolk often covered up with anti Israeli stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>But anti israel disease begins in the head and it

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<v Speaker 1>metastasizes into the heart, or you become an anti semi

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<v Speaker 1>With Nick Christop, I think it began in the head

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<v Speaker 1>and traveled to the heart. Because I've known him as

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<v Speaker 1>a radio person for years. I'm still stunned by this

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, I don't want to get it. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't get into his mind. But in my view, we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing this. I would look at this as the latest

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<v Speaker 2>example of how anti Zionism, hating Israel is the price

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<v Speaker 2>of admission to get into the progressive club. The left's

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<v Speaker 2>this is the new litmus test. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Christoph, you know, is many things. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a bleeding heart. But the bottom at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, he is a liberal and

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to be left behind, and that so

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<v Speaker 2>that I just think it's just he's going along to

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<v Speaker 2>get along. The other thing is is that I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the credulity that it takes to print the canine element

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<v Speaker 2>of that story, but also to use an organization like Euromed.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would even go so far as to say

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<v Speaker 2>but Selim, which is an Israeli group. They get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of foreign funding, but they have had they have

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<v Speaker 2>transformed over twenty five years from an organization that used

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<v Speaker 2>to be kind of a good faith check on Israel

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<v Speaker 2>that every you know, open society should have and every

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<v Speaker 2>you know, republic should democratic republic should have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>human rights groups and critics of the government. But they

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<v Speaker 2>have been they have joined a kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've joined a chorus from within Israel. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that, you know, he's there's a huge infrastructure queue

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<v Speaker 2>of you know NGOs that you know, basically there are

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<v Speaker 2>there to create pages and pages of reports that very

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<v Speaker 2>few people read, and then they're used then again as

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<v Speaker 2>references in UN reports, and it creates a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>paper trail to make Israel seem like a monstrous country.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you start going through the individual examples and

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<v Speaker 2>so forth, what you find is is that these are

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<v Speaker 2>not credible accounts. They get certain things wrong, they're terribly

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<v Speaker 2>one sided, and they basically exist to try to push

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<v Speaker 2>the information or the soft power of war that is

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to end the destruction of the only Jewish state

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<v Speaker 2>of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that begins through the eyes, the ears, and

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<v Speaker 1>the and the sens and ends up being anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 1>in the heart. You become diseased by the way. That's

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<v Speaker 1>also Husay Monsieur's theory that he related to the Ready

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<v Speaker 1>Gore that you can't get into the elite of the

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<v Speaker 1>progressive movement unless you are anti ziotist.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would just point something else also about the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times. When The New York Times wrote Screams

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<v Speaker 2>without Words, there was a huge staff rebellion. There was

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<v Speaker 2>an effort to try to get in some ways the

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<v Speaker 2>paper to retract that story. They did not submit that

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<v Speaker 2>story for certain journalism prizes because of all of this pressure. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you compare those two accounts for Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Christoff to the scream of that words scream of out

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<v Speaker 2>words is far more rigorous, it's far better source. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a much better example of journalism. And you compare that

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<v Speaker 2>to Christoph which I think that just from a journalistic perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting allegations. You're not getting names of the of

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<v Speaker 2>the victims. Okay, sometimes you have to do that, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're not getting the dates and the times and the circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not getting a serious response from the IDF for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to sort of explain it. So basic stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>you would expect in any good, serious investigation. This journalistic

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<v Speaker 2>investigation was lacking from it, let alone, the implausible claim

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<v Speaker 2>about dogs and give up just horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It is horrible. Eli is going to be with me

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<v Speaker 1>during the break when we talk about Barack Obama and

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<v Speaker 1>the JGTOA on the other side Beijing, So don't go anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned to the UA hip Welcome Back America. Former

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<v Speaker 1>President of Barack Obama feels so threatened by the way

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<v Speaker 1>things have gone with his JGPOA Long Dad, that he

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<v Speaker 1>went on with lame Duck Late Night failed comedian Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Colbert and said this cut number one.

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<v Speaker 3>We pulled it off without firing a missile. We got

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<v Speaker 3>ninety seven percent of their enriched uranium up. They were

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<v Speaker 3>able to maintain a modest civilian nuclear program.

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<v Speaker 4>For energy, and so you think it was working.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only did I think it was working, even Israeli

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence and thought it was working. Even our intelligence services

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was working. So there's no dispute that it

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<v Speaker 3>worked and we didn't. We didn't have to kill a

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<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of people or shut down the straight of hormones.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So there's the defense eli your response, it's

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<v Speaker 1>deeply dishonest accounting of what the JCPIA was.

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<v Speaker 2>The JCPIA was working because the Iranians had a glide

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<v Speaker 2>path to eventually produce as much low enriched uranium as

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<v Speaker 2>they pleased, and they got to keep what was an illicit,

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<v Speaker 2>industrial sized nuclear program. Not only did they get to

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<v Speaker 2>keep that program, they got to produce centrifuges, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got designs for much more efficient centrifuges. So what they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to do was, in exchange for a promise

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<v Speaker 2>that they would not use their new lay program for

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<v Speaker 2>fuel that is suitable for a weapon, they get to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the ability to make that fuel. That is a

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<v Speaker 2>deal that the United States would not have signed with

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<v Speaker 2>any other country. What was known as the gold standard

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<v Speaker 2>was or these water called one two three agreements with

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<v Speaker 2>countries like the United Arab Emirates, was that we or

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<v Speaker 2>some you do not get to process and enrich your

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<v Speaker 2>own uranium. We will give you that the nuclear fuels

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<v Speaker 2>suitable for reactors, but you do not get to have

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<v Speaker 2>that capability in your own country because you can turn

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<v Speaker 2>that on very easily once you've mastered the fuel cycle

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<v Speaker 2>into being able to make fuel suitable for a bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>That was always the sort of deep flaw in the JCPA,

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to having so many of its limitations expire

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<v Speaker 2>over time. They would be expiring right around now now.

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<v Speaker 1>I may I mentioned there were no restrictions on missiles

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<v Speaker 1>and their length. There were absolutely the ability they could travel.

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<v Speaker 1>There was absolutely know anytime anywhere inspection. Large military bases

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<v Speaker 1>were absolutely forbidden from people going to inspect them, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course by twenty thirty two they could do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted. Why did he pick Colbert? I think he

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<v Speaker 1>did because Colbert doesn't know anything. Is that it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's also yeah, Colbert is also on site.

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<v Speaker 2>He's as much of a political figure as a figure

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<v Speaker 2>of comedy. In fact, I don't think he's really in

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<v Speaker 2>the comedy lane anymore, and hasn't been for some time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's like, you know, he's a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>an influencer for the Democratic Party on network television.

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<v Speaker 1>Is how I last question during it there's no rehabbing

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<v Speaker 1>the JCPOA the room about it in the ugly Obama library.

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<v Speaker 1>That disaster we have thirty Will there be any way

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<v Speaker 1>to make it not a disaster?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I mean, And also to compare whatever deal

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<v Speaker 2>if Trump does get a deal with this rougine, which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he will, to the ju it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make any sense because Trump has destroyed the nuclear program,

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<v Speaker 2>which the JCPU a legitimized.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the We'll be right back with Beijing, and

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<v Speaker 1>Eli like stand by.

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<v Speaker 5>We hold this truth to please self evidence. We got

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<v Speaker 5>the raditudes our own president.

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<v Speaker 1>You hold your stuns to stop the king need and

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<v Speaker 1>your text out get back, Welcome back America.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're listening to is not Hamilton. It's Eli Lake

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<v Speaker 1>about to become Lynn Manuel Miranda. Because he uses AI

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<v Speaker 1>to create music and this was very good. He sent

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<v Speaker 1>this to me last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much like good. I mean, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the lyrics by playing around with the

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<v Speaker 2>actual declaration itself. And I've been thinking a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>the declaration recently, and you know, it's incredible what AI

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<v Speaker 2>can do. I mean, there's obviously a downside to it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I love it and uh, it's it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great outlet for me. I write a lot of I

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<v Speaker 2>like writing the lyrics. I have some musical capabilities, but

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like what the computers can now do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Eli, I was I was talking with a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of my daughter and I have a theater kid, grandkid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have told my theater kid, grandkid, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful hobby. Don't plan on making a livelihood. And it said, Bobby,

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<v Speaker 1>you've crushed my dream and I said no really, And

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<v Speaker 1>the third party says, you know, creatives are the only

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<v Speaker 1>ones who won't be replaced by AI, and I said, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You talked to Elia. How much are you doing of this? Elia?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I write, I write the lyrics, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>ask the machine to write it, they're not as good.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've done this actually with other AI programs like Rock,

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<v Speaker 2>where I've just said, can you write a column in

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<v Speaker 2>Eli Lake style, and I started doing this like a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago. They're getting better, but it's not. It doesn't compare.

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<v Speaker 2>You should try it here. That's pretty easy to do

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<v Speaker 2>because I'll spit it out in like five seconds. It

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<v Speaker 2>can't it can't do that. It can't write like a

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<v Speaker 2>good column. It can't write a feature. Yeah, but it's learning.

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<v Speaker 2>And what it can certainly do is if I ask

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<v Speaker 2>one of the five best books on a particular as

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<v Speaker 2>I start my research for a particular breaking history episode,

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<v Speaker 2>it usually gives me five. And they really are the

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<v Speaker 2>best books I've found. I mean, I don't ask the

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<v Speaker 2>machine too. That's crazy because.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't thought of that. That's being a great book.

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<v Speaker 1>I am reading Nick Lehman's new memoir, returning on the

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<v Speaker 1>basis of the commentary recommends it's fabulous, which raised in

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<v Speaker 1>my head. He runs in the same circles as Christoff.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a Jew and you're working with Nick Christoph,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do on a theoretical base, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>advising you to advise Brett Stevens to quit, but what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do about that? Just ignore it? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think you, I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why I don't quite know what to do, because to me,

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<v Speaker 2>the malice of that peace was the sort of mission

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<v Speaker 2>statement that the Israelis were raped on October seventh, and

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<v Speaker 2>every day Palestinians are raped, and so I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>all evens out. And and to me it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>would I be surprised if there were some horrible things

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<v Speaker 2>that happened in some of those prisons, given you know

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers and everything, No, I wouldn't. In fact, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there are terrible things, and there should be a

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<v Speaker 2>process that is not interfered with by political side. And

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<v Speaker 2>Israel has been through this before every country. We've been

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<v Speaker 2>through it with Abu Grave most recently, but certainly in

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<v Speaker 2>Vietnam we had a kind of process and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>happens in war. And that's but but this you have

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<v Speaker 2>to understand, and it's it's ironic that Christop's column comes

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<v Speaker 2>out the same day that Israel that the Civil Commission

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<v Speaker 2>releases what is the most comprehensive report on what happened

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<v Speaker 2>on October seventh. What you find is that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they were given instructions on how to say in Hebrew

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<v Speaker 2>to take off your pants and take off your underpants

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, which is that this was a deliberate plan.

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<v Speaker 2>It was literally using rape as a weapon of war,

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<v Speaker 2>and the people who did it are still celebrated, not

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<v Speaker 2>just by Palestinians but increasingly. And this is what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gives me chills. You find members of the left

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<v Speaker 2>right now in the West, in America and Canada and

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<v Speaker 2>Europe that think that Hamas are the good guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the thirty months since ten seven is a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of rolling drafish affair. I suggested to you. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking History explained what that was. It was the uncorking

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<v Speaker 1>of anti tematism in Europe in the little late nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, and you've been great this week on the Dreypest stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just I've been listening to every I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this week has been really terrific.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's because it's horrific. It's terrific. If it's terrific,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because it's terrific. Let's finish in Beijing in the

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<v Speaker 1>era of and Brezhnev, that was after Stalin, you could

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<v Speaker 1>move towards Reagan and Garbageev and eventually to the fall

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wall. G is not any of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>he's maybe Ondropov, but he's really Stalin. Does it make

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<v Speaker 1>sense to meet with him four times in a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm skeptical. Well, let's see what we can get out

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think when you talk to people who

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<v Speaker 2>tried to look at what a war with China would

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<v Speaker 2>look like, it's something that I think we should try

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid if we can. If there is a way

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<v Speaker 2>to reach the sort of accommodation, what I find interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm working on this, but when I've talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Pentagon people, what they tell me is that China did

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<v Speaker 2>the bare minimum to support Irad in this war. And

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<v Speaker 2>so if Trump can use diplomacy in this way, even

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<v Speaker 2>though I agree with you that g is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a tyrant, he's Stalin. But if he's Stalin, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you can kind of get.

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<v Speaker 6>G to.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe put some constructive pressure on Iran, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get g Uh, you know, to play more fair in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of its exports and and currency manipulation. In my view,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can get something out of it, then I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the diplomacy necessarily hurts. The problem is is

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<v Speaker 2>if if Trump is enticed into a kind of deal

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<v Speaker 2>where we don't give Taiwan all of the military it

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<v Speaker 2>needs to defend itself. That's in the event sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Down with the President tonight, I'm going to watch it

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<v Speaker 1>all before being on a special report. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be leaning in what did you say about Taiwan? Because

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate deal is you help us everywhere you get

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<v Speaker 1>the South China Sea, and we'll we'll close our eyes

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<v Speaker 1>on Taiwan. That's a disaster. That's a disaster. Caning around

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<v Speaker 1>that we can.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason why, in some ways Iran is important

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<v Speaker 2>for that equation is that if we might I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the calculations from China might be I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth the candle. Everybody just assumes that the Iranians

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<v Speaker 2>are going to come out better. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>true at all. I think that maybe the Chinese didn't

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<v Speaker 2>help as much because they looked around and they said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a regime that's wobbling. I'm not sure they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to survive six months after this war. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's important too. So if you can manage to

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<v Speaker 2>get something better in Iran, then that puts that that

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<v Speaker 2>means you need China less and it gives us more leverage.

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<v Speaker 2>I think to focus on Taiwan. I would be surprised

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<v Speaker 2>if Trump would have given up entirely on Taiwan at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, but I think it is something to worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of cultural exchanges. Importing ev I want none

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<v Speaker 1>of it. They're a surveillance state. I joke with people

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<v Speaker 1>and longshots at that yesterday, and we have a minute

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<v Speaker 1>and so everything he here is being watched by the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicoms because Mike Gallagher is there and it is that

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<v Speaker 1>they are everywhere. Do you think the American people understand

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<v Speaker 1>that Eli thirty seconds to the end of the No.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't. And I've been writing about this now for

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<v Speaker 2>nearly twenty years. It goes back to Huawei. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we had Huawei circuits and chips in military stuff fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. Our government is finally waking up to this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, but I think the American people still

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<v Speaker 2>don't quite realize what's going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's important to get that message out teeth Kruck

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<v Speaker 1>and the clean Technology initiative of Trump one. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on now Eli Lake can be followed at

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<v Speaker 1>Eli Lake. Your name came up at Hudson yesterday asked

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<v Speaker 1>me for the young journalists who I think are important here.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them, as is Aaron McLain. Thank you, Eli

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<v Speaker 1>for doing two segments today, and thank you for this

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful song. Okay tuned in America, Matt continent. He has

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<v Speaker 1>met working back America Matthew Kuhn, and he joins me

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<v Speaker 1>on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Now. Matt is the free expression,

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<v Speaker 1>the vertical calumnist for the Wall Street Journal. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>the head of domestic policy at American Enterprise Institute. Take

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<v Speaker 1>a moment to find the Wall Street Journal column today

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<v Speaker 1>on AOC because he makes the central point. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>let's begin there, Matt. I love the fact you finally

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<v Speaker 1>put on the table. She's got a lot of sparkle.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got gifts. One of those is not knowledge of America.

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<v Speaker 1>It's founding principles or what it's all about. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>very well read. I don't want to say she's stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>but she is ignorant of America. Is that a good

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<v Speaker 1>summary of your column?

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<v Speaker 5>I think so, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 7>I think my column goes out to show that Alexandria

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<v Speaker 7>Okazio Cortez is both an economic and a historical illiterate.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, she doesn't give many interviews, and I think

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<v Speaker 7>we learned why in the past few days.

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<v Speaker 5>In the first the interview, she said.

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<v Speaker 7>That, you know, no one can earn a billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 7>stating that essentially all billionaires somehow are thieves, that they

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<v Speaker 7>earned they won their fortune through ill godden gains. And

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<v Speaker 7>then in a subsequent interview to defend her the economic obliviousness,

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<v Speaker 7>and by the way, she's an economics double major, she

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<v Speaker 7>said that the American Revolution was fought against billionaires. And

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<v Speaker 7>this to me is in some ways even worse than

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<v Speaker 7>her economic sins, because she is a United States congresswoman

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<v Speaker 7>who clearly has no grasp of why the American Revolution

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<v Speaker 7>was fought. It was not fought because King George the

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<v Speaker 7>Third had a piet tear in Manhattan. It was fought

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<v Speaker 7>because the King in Parliament had denied the colonists for

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<v Speaker 7>decades their natural and civil rights as Englishmen. And to

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<v Speaker 7>not grasp that, I think, is to lose the plot

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<v Speaker 7>about America itself. And I'm disturbed that this new Democratic

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<v Speaker 7>Socialist Party is beginning to recast the American Revolution as

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<v Speaker 7>just a kind of another peasants revolt. Another kind of

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<v Speaker 7>exercise in the rule of the mob, like we saw

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<v Speaker 7>in the French Revolution or the Russian Revolution, or the

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<v Speaker 7>Chinese Civil war and revolution. That's not a path America

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<v Speaker 7>wants to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>AOC had she recast her marks as the original billionaires

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<v Speaker 1>for the Nabobs who bought back the wealth of India

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<v Speaker 1>to the United Kingdom and exploited it, including the colonization

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<v Speaker 1>of America, it would have at least had a patina

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<v Speaker 1>of intellectual rigor. But she'd not well learned. Now, Matt,

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>they do have these honorary degrees that they give out

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 1>at commencement time. You think BU is tempted to take

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<v Speaker 1>hers back.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, she's a graduate of BU double major.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I said, economics and international relations, another field where

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 7>she has no expertise. Remember the last face plant AOC

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 7>had was when she went to the Munich Security Conference

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 7>earlier this year and she was asked a fairly simple

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 7>question on foreign policy and she gave a word salad

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 7>that you would put Kamala Harris to shame. So I

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 7>think that there's a level of ignorance.

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<v Speaker 5>Here, Hugh.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's not just aoc I, unfortunately, it's large swaths

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 7>of our society. They don't understand not just economics, the

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 7>laws of supply and demand, savings and investment, why inflation

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 7>is bad, government spending diverting resources from the private economy.

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<v Speaker 7>But they don't understand why America was founded.

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<v Speaker 5>What we're about. We're about the natural rights.

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<v Speaker 7>Of individuals created equal before God, and we've been playing

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<v Speaker 7>out this experiment in self government for two hundred and

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<v Speaker 7>fifty years.

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<v Speaker 5>Come July fourth.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what we need to understand, because once you get that,

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<v Speaker 7>you kind of realize the value of limited government, of

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 7>personal freedoms, of property rights, all the things that AOC

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 7>and her squad want to attack and destroy.

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<v Speaker 1>I matt on to Iran. The President will be back

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 1>on you soil soon. I would like combat operations to

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<v Speaker 1>commends immediately there afterwards where they Iran and the seagefire

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>that isn't a seagefire that was paused for the summit,

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>because we've got to bring this regime to its knees,

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<v Speaker 1>if not down, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 5>Something needs to give you?

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<v Speaker 7>And I think that this cannot go on much further

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 7>one for Iran because the pressure is real and the

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 7>economic devastation there is for sure. But also for President Trump,

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 7>because we can't let ourselves get into a corner where

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<v Speaker 7>Iran is effectively calling the shots in the Strait of Hormones.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think what President Trump needs to do is

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<v Speaker 7>restart Project Freedom. He needs to open a the Strait

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<v Speaker 7>of Hormuz. And in order to do that, it means

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:07.239
<v Speaker 7>rezooming military operations for some period of time so that

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<v Speaker 7>we can take out those drone and missile teams along

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 7>the coasts. We can take out all the harbors and

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 7>ports where the Mosquito fleet of ships that harass the

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 7>tankers come to port, drop that anchor. So there's needs

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 7>to be a resumption of the military campaign for some

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 7>time and to kind of lay the ground or the

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<v Speaker 7>sea for the resumption of Project Freedom and opening up

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 7>that straight.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the above in my view. Matt will be

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<v Speaker 1>with me during the break. It'll be on the One

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Big Weekend Pod, and then they'll be back after the

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<v Speaker 1>break to talk about China. Don't go anywhere America. I

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<v Speaker 1>who do it? I'm back with Matt CONTINENTI Matt. Over

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<v Speaker 1>the last two days, President former President Obama sat down

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<v Speaker 1>with lame duck failed Late Night Committee and Stephen Colbert interviewed,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, kind of paint a rosy picture about

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<v Speaker 1>the JCPOA. Here's what the former president said to Stephen Colbert.

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<v Speaker 3>We pulled it off without firing a missile. We got

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<v Speaker 3>ninety seven percent of their enriched uranium out. They were

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 3>able to maintain a modest civilian nuclear program.

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<v Speaker 4>For energy, and so you think it was working.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only did I think it was working, even Israeli

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 3>intelligence thought it was working. Even our intelligence services thought

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 3>it was working. So there's no dispute that it worked

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 3>and we didn't. We didn't have to kill a whole

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 3>bunch of people or shut down the straight of horm Moose.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Matt Connetty, it's obviously a lie because there is

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it is speed about whether it worked, but it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain to the audience why it didn't work?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>Why was the JCPOA, the Obama nuclear deal such a travesty?

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 7>Whereas President Trump calls it the worst deal ever. Obama

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<v Speaker 7>talked about what the Iranians said they were doing, that

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<v Speaker 7>is lowering the enrichment standards. What he didn't say is

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<v Speaker 7>what Obama gave the Iranians billions and billions of dollars,

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 7>including pallets of cash, which the Iranians then turned around

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 7>to spread chaos throughout the region, to foment terror. So

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 7>the JCPOA didn't address the missiles, which is one of

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 7>the reasons we had Operation Epic Fury, and didn't address

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 7>the proxies. And moreover, it was sunseted, as you know, Hugh,

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 7>which that at the end of the period of the JCPOA,

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 7>Iran would have been free to do anything it wanted.

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 7>And because as Obama pointed out, it still maintained the

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 7>nuclear infrastructure to take off the second that the JCPOA

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 7>was sunseted, so it was left. Iran was left richer,

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 7>It maintained its nuclear infrastructure, and it was allowed to

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 7>build up its conventional weaponry to to protect that nuclear

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 7>program and to so chaos throughout the region. Obama is

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 7>completely wrong. And I think it's very interesting here. Why

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 7>is Obama resurfacing these days? He's everywhere. He's withs Or

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 7>on Mamdani, he's with James Tallerico in Texas, he's getting

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 7>ready to open up his ugly library, and in Chicago

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.959
<v Speaker 7>he's given interviews to The New Yorker, and now this

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 7>interview to Stephen Colbert. Why because he understands that when

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 7>this war is won, when Iran is militarily decimated, and

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 7>eventually when that regime falls and the Strait of Hormuz

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 7>is open, Obama's legacy will be gone, zeroed out. And

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<v Speaker 7>so that's what he's trying to do and what his

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 7>aids are trying to do now. They are trying to

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 7>keep his legacy alive, but it is dying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be interesting. It will be the first

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>legacy to be completely erased and failed by the time

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the library opens. Obamacare is a disaster of the JCPO.

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>And you didn't even mention inspection a joke. It was

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>like the Clusseau inspection regime. They could declare entire military

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>bases off limit, they could go anywhere at any time.

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Never it was a joke. He's a joke. The library's

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a joke. These interviews are a joke. I'm coming back

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>with the non joke. Matt Continetti, Stay tuned, Welcome back

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Matt Continetti, Wall Street Journal

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>columnist and head of domestic policy Studies at the American

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Enterprise Institute is still with me. Matt apropos of our

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>earlier conversation about AOC not knowing anything. Ap story this

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>morning quote. Kids in Lower Merion School District in Pennsylvania

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>get iPads starting in kindergarten, switch to chromebooks in second grade,

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>get their own MacBooks in eighth grade. One hundred of

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>parents sign a petition asking to preserve their ability to

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>opt their children out of using digital devices during the

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>school day. The school district pushed back, saying it's not

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>feasible to let hundreds of students opt out of technology

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that is essential to the quick. My theory, the reason

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>American kids are ignorant is that they do not know

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>how to read books and they don't have the discipline

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to finish arguments. What do you think you've got, Smalls, Well.

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 5>It's a great theory.

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>This decline, it seems, began right before the pandemic, around

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 7>twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, and then of course the school

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 7>lockdowns enclosures accelerated this learning loss to a very detrimental

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 7>effect for American society for generations.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 5>Now, what I would.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 7>Point out, exactly as you say, around twenty fourteen fifteen,

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 7>is when a lot of this what's called ed tech,

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 7>that the tablets, the reliance on YouTube videos, the phones

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.439
<v Speaker 7>being allowed in the classroom beginning around that time, that's

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 7>when it was becoming introduced. At the same time, you

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 7>had a nationwide, especially in the Blue States, retreat from

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 7>testing and accountability. All of the reforms that were part

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 7>of the push in George W. Bush and Barack Obama's

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 7>presidency that the education departed. Obama is one of the

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 7>one things that worked to kind of make sure that

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 7>schools were performing and to measure how students were doing.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 7>All of those reforms began to fade away in the

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 7>second half of Obama's presidency. And this, of course is

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 7>the states at work too, the Blue States in particular.

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 7>And so we're left right now, Hugh is in this

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 7>very upsetting situation. On the one hand, we are having

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 7>these parent driven movements to get the phones out of

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 7>the schools. That's very important to lock those phones away

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 7>at least during school hours. But the next battlefield is

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 7>going to have to be this ed tech, these tablets,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 7>these you know, we know that there are school systems

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 7>in Virginia where the teacher just puts on a YouTube video. Yep,

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.240
<v Speaker 7>they think that's what they think that's education. That's not education,

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 7>and it's hurting our children. On the other hand, though,

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 7>especially in red states, we have a return to basic

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 7>phonics in order to encourage red and reading.

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 5>This is the Mississippi Miracle.

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<v Speaker 7>We have charter schools, we have this new tax credit

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 7>program as part of the Working Family's tax Credit to

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 7>encourage school choice. So there are real opportunities here, but

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 7>it's only the conservatives who are talking about them. And

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 7>we've lost the sense where democrats and of course the

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 7>teachers unions feel as though they need to be invested

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 7>in accountability and testing to get our children back to

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 7>where they're learning as opposed to right now. It seems

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 7>almost as a national amnesia is in the midst of

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 7>taking place.

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Notice that the people that push back in the AP

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>story I read the school district No. One in particular,

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that represents some costs of bureaucracy, spending a lot of

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>money and developing a lot of curriculum and a lot

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of hours and a lot of workloads based upon technology.

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to change. They like it. That's the problem.

0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I want to switch back to Christoff. I talked to

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you earlier this week, but I've been thinking about very

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 1>little NonStop, because I actually know the guy from the radio,

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so astonished I've come up with this theory

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:14.399
<v Speaker 1>anti Zionism, anti Israel. That's an intellectual choice that people make,

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and then it bleeds into your heart or it becomes

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and metastasizes into anti Semitism. Anti Semitism is a disease

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 1>of the heart Soulzannietschman said, where good and he will reside,

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and it metastasizes to the brain, where it's disguised into

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>anti Zionism or anti Israel. I think Christop has it

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>from the brain to the heart, but he's got it.

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>What do you make of my theory that he just

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of red himself into the anti Semitic movement accidentally

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>because he wanted to be anti Israel.

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think that's a key part of it.

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<v Speaker 7>In the New York Times, you're almost reflexively anti Israel.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 7>And if you write about Israel and you say something

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 7>bad about Israel, there will be no scrutiny to what

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 7>you claim. And we know that for a fact. I

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 7>think there's also a measure of sheer laziness on the

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 7>part of Chris stuff. We know that in the past

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 7>he's fallen for frauds and articles have been apologized for

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 7>or even retracted. In the case of this Cambodian anti

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 7>prostitution activist, he kind of fell for earlier in this century.

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 7>And we see here from the people with researched the article, Hugh,

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 7>as you know, is that it seems that a lot

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 7>of these unverified, anonymous sources making these scurrilous and ridiculous

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 7>claims can be traced back to an NGO non governmental

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 7>organization which is known to be a Hamas front. And

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 7>so if you're a columnist who has an incentive to

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 7>write negatively about Israel because you know it's going to

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 7>please your subscriber base, you know what's your editors are

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 7>going to love it. Long comes its NGO and says, hey,

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 7>wait until you check out this information or not check it,

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 7>but look away, we have for you. We can tee

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<v Speaker 7>up your column or your essay right away. Well, you

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 7>might be inclined to do that and have no heed

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 7>of what the consequences might be in the real world

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 7>for the people who will take these slanders and use

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 7>them as justification for violence against Jews around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gave berta thought. NGO is a term that

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>almost adds dignity to beggars. NGOs are beggars. NGOs are

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:35.439
<v Speaker 1>non productivity measured organization where losers and people who can't

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>make a living go NGOs. Do we add to their

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 1>dignity by referring to them as NGOs in some way

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 1>associating them with government by saying they're non government organizations,

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>but they're likely government. They're just beggars.

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<v Speaker 7>It's kind of I'm hesitating because there's a chance that

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<v Speaker 7>American enterprises considered an NGO.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want. It's not saying all NGOs here. It's

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 5>a very capacious term, as we know.

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<v Speaker 7>But in specifically, what we're talking about are these NGOs

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<v Speaker 7>that are part of this self designated human rights community.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't stand for human rights. They stand to delegitimize, demonize,

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.879
<v Speaker 7>and apply double standards to the state of Israel as

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<v Speaker 7>part of a global movement to end the Jewish state,

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 7>the only state where the Jewish people have a home.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of all the hundreds of countries.

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<v Speaker 7>In the world, Why is it that there is a

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<v Speaker 7>global movement to destroy one of them? And that, I

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 7>think is the question that's being asked. But you won't

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 7>find that question being asked in the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>Dehumanized, delegitimize, imposed a double standard. That was some very

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>rapid work with the alliteration. Matt Continetti and my hat

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>is tipped to you. Have a great weekend. Thank you

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>again for joining me. Follow Matt at the Wall Street Journal,

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<v Speaker 1>Go rid it's coming on AOC today. It's fabulous and

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<v Speaker 1>fell him on x at Continetti. I'll be right back

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<v Speaker 1>in America. I'm cute. Thank you for listening to highly

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<v Speaker 1>gets their second month free when you use my name, Hugh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hewett. For regular listeners to this program, you know,

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>for the big weekend pod. I's been most of Friday

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>talking the same people. On last Friday we went out

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>with a rim shot when Ben Dominicic landed a low

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:31.359
<v Speaker 1>blow with a James Harden smear. I never forget, I

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>never forget. And they were zero and two when he

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>hit me.

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.919
<v Speaker 6>Below the bell. You did you not hear the last

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 6>thing that I said? I said that they'd take I

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 6>said that they'd steal some at home and look at now, look.

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 8>At at three and two going into seven o'clock tonight.

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 8>But I want to say, you are a conspiracy theorist.

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 8>And one thing only Ben Dominic the NBA. So they

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 8>had the lottery this week.

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And who won the NBA lottery but Ben Dominic's team,

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Wizards. So was that fixed?

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 6>I think it was. I actually think it was, and

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 6>I think that I think that. One of the things

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 6>to notice, of course, about this is that everyone in

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 6>Utah wants wants Aja to stay there. And for listeners

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 6>who don't know, uh, you know, I want the top

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 6>There's basically two clear top players in basketball to be

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 6>drafted this year, and Utah got the second pick. So

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 6>what do you have now? You have drama? Should they

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 6>trade the pick to Utah? Should they swap and do

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 6>like you gin up and you get attention for it?

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 6>Adam Silver doing what he does?

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, who do you want the Wizards to take?

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You've got everybody on injured reserve for like three months

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>taking a vacation on the message table.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 6>Anthony Davis is probably never going to see the court anyway.

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 6>But yes, I hey, when Harden wants to play in

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs, he's a good player. When he doesn't want

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 6>to play. You notice, Well.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kiddous. Who do you want the Wizards to say?

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 1>If you're actually a Wizards fan. Fred Barnes was forever right,

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I and Morton would go together. Who's who do you want?

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 6>I will just say the number of times that they

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 6>played against each other. You know, I actually I think

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 6>Peterson is actually the better pick. But I also think

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 6>that given the fact that this is a franchise that

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 6>you can't trust because they've never I mean, you need

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 6>to keep in mind since since the three point shot

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 6>was invented, Okay, these Wizards have not won fifty games,

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 6>So that that is the way to think about this franchise.

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 6>It is a loser franchise. It is very bad. They

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 6>won championship, and they won the championship, and then the

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 6>next year they had the three point line and then

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 6>they just dropped like a rock. And it's look, I

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 6>was there during the Jordan latter years, and I was

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 6>there and I've been there. I was there during the

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 6>Laboula years of of that, and and of course I

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 6>was very disappointed with the way that the Gilbert Arenas

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 6>situation turned out. And John Wall was there to make

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:08.439
<v Speaker 6>a pick, so he was there a good luck charm.

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>But well, I'm telling you, as a Browns fan, I

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>feel you're pain to be cursed with a terrible franchise

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>is a bad thing. Let's get to the news. President

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 1>will touchdown in DC as soon as he does. I

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>want combat operation to begin again against Ron because of

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the ceasefire isn't a ceasefire. And now we have Evan's,

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>courtesy of Ambassador Walt's, a massive environmental degradation as they're

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>spilling oil into the strait of hormones because they haven't

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 1>got any place to put it. They're already at max

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>capacity eighty thousand barrels of washed up on carg Island.

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you think is going to happen? What ought

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to happen?

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<v Speaker 6>I think that what you I think that what you

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 6>laid out there is exactly what ought to happen. I

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 6>don't know if the President is going to want to

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 6>get back and pull the trigger as quickly as that,

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 6>but I mean, you know, you heard his attitude talking

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 6>about the last deal he reject did after the first sentence,

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 6>uh and you know he didn't say what the sentence was,

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 6>but he said there was, you know, just unacceptable on

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 6>its face, and I think that his patience has completely

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 6>run out for this type of situation that is, as

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 6>you say, a non cease fire, seasefire. He's not going

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 6>to stand for that, and it's not something that he

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 6>would rather be, you know, pursuing. I think this in

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 6>ways that send the message this is going to get

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.359
<v Speaker 6>over quickly, and if it doesn't, we're going to hit

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 6>you hard and we're going to hit you again. And

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 6>looks as much as the depictions that you see or

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 6>that you read in the New York Times, you know,

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 6>frame this as being a situation where the Iranians are

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 6>coming off better when it comes to, you know, their

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:46.320
<v Speaker 6>whole military situation. The presentations that we've seen put forward

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 6>by our War Department officials have been I mean, it's

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 6>devastating what they've actually done to their military capabilities. And

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 6>I think that that's something the President can hold his

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 6>head high about. But he's not going to He's not

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 6>going to keep having this situation where it's it's just

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 6>a tug of war back and forth, and where they

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 6>don't they don't seem to be negotiating in any time

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 6>of good says.

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 1>So there are levels of force and I think there's

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>maximum level of force, which is ground troops. The eighty

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>second Airborne is over there. I listened today to Aaron

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 1>McClain and Mark dublo it's twice on the new Iran breakdown.

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Twice because they are smart guys, and Aaron McClain's marine

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and Mark duvids it does nothing but Iran. There are

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>lots of military options, but the eighty second Airborne is

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 1>part of one hundred and eighteenth Air Corps. They know

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>how to do this. They're not a shutdown entire airspaces

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and do we turn them loose and just say do

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 1>what you got to do to end this regime's military power.

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 6>I think that the problem that you're going to run

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 6>into there, of course, is the president's level of tolerance

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 6>for loss of American life. He cited to Brett Behar

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 6>in the interview that's going to run this evening. You

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 6>know the fact that you know from his perspective, he's

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 6>lost thirteen Americans in two wars. That's you know, a

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 6>number clearly that is front of mind for him. The

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 6>fact that he is thinking about this in those terms

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 6>is something that is going to give him pause. And

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 6>the unfortunate reality though, Hugh is that that's probably what

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 6>it's going to take to devastate this regime to the

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 6>point that most people think it needs to be, and

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 6>that was always going to be a problem. The geography,

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 6>the terrain is a problem. Everything that you know is

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.479
<v Speaker 6>challenging about Iran has been something that they have used

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 6>to great effect to protect this regime for so long, though,

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 6>and at some point you have to decide what are

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 6>we going to finish this thing or not. Rick Scott

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 6>wrote a piece for us at The Daily Wire this

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 6>week saying, you know that there was nothing acceptable other

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 6>than victory here, and that that means, you know, not

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 6>accepting some end of the war that people domestically are

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 6>arguing for because of concerns about the midterms or something

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 6>of that nature. That you've got to take it all

0:48:57.719 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 6>the way. And I think that that's an indication that

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 6>the present and we'll get support if he makes that choice.

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 1>All Right, you brought up the Daily Wire, and I

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't introduce you as the opinion editor at the Daily

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Wire as well as the Fox News contributor and host

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>of the Big Ben podcast. So now that I have,

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>let me bring up the fact the New Yorker maggot,

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>not the New Yorker. What do we call that? New

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>York mag decided to go after Ben Shapiro and it's

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 1>been unbound. John Chape is one of the weirdest guys

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>in the business. I mean, it is weird and it's

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 1>a weird magazine. What I got against Ben Shapiro and

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>The Daily Wire and why does anyone believe their lies?

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, it's not just them, Hugh. I would say that

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 6>this is a pretty coordinated series of attacks. I mean

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 6>it's you know, the Washington Post ran a piece. You know,

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 6>they've been There have been multiple podcasters who've gone after it,

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 6>who've suggested that there's something I would recommend to everyone

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 6>the opening of Ben Shapiro Show today, which is entitled

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 6>all the Haters Can Kiss My Ass. I hope that

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 6>doesn't get you a violation.

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I've known Ben for twenty years. Good for Ben, so

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 1>but but the.

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 6>Truth is this. The Daily Wire is an institution. I've

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 6>only been there for two and a half months. It

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:18.320
<v Speaker 6>has a huge staff, it has enormous you know projects

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:20.839
<v Speaker 6>that they do, Uh, they do things that nobody else

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 6>is doing. And what is really happening here is that

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:29.040
<v Speaker 6>a bunch of bitter podcasters who are anti what the

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 6>Daily Wire and Ben and everybody else who's built that

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 6>place represent, which is a traditional lane of conservatism, who

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 6>want to see it instead ripped down, torn down to

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 6>the to the the every bolt, you know, everything down

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 6>to the foundation, and then break that foundation open in

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 6>order to rebuild a crank filled right wing that is

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:56.280
<v Speaker 6>bad on Israel, is bad on our on foreign policy,

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 6>is bad on national security, is bad on Jews generally,

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 6>and that is fueled by a number of people, including

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, the fact that the fact that you are

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 6>turning to Tucker and Candae and Nick Flint is as

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 6>your sources on the fact that the Daily Wire is

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<v Speaker 6>going down, that should tell you everything about what's going

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<v Speaker 6>on here, Hugh. It is that they are they are

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 6>giving you know, quotes to these places saying you know, oh,

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, my opponent is going down, and it's simply

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 6>not true at all. And it's one of these things

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 6>where I frankly think the fact that you can have

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 6>people who have tiny little staffs, who you know, podcasts

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:38.400
<v Speaker 6>trump their basement live streams and things like that go

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.399
<v Speaker 6>out and say, you know, I've beaten this institution, I'm

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:44.920
<v Speaker 6>taking over the new Right, et cetera. Is something that

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:47.480
<v Speaker 6>is a very convenient narrative if you are someone in

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 6>the legacy media.

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<v Speaker 1>On the left, to be a displacement engine like the

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Daily Wire. There are the free pressures displacing the New

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 1>York Times, it's taking on CBS, it's actually absorbing CBS.

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 1>But the Daily Wire displacing a lot of conservative media,

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>not all of it not normal concern to media, but

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it's displacing a lot of the eyeball because you can't

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>read two things at once, and if you're reading the

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Daily Wire, you're not reading something else. And if you're

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a conservative, the Daily Wire threatens to kill a bunch

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:20.800
<v Speaker 1>of people who make their living. And that the problem.

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>It's killing people off from their their disintermediated from their money.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's also the fact that you have people

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 6>who very much are Yes, there's an aspect of this

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:33.359
<v Speaker 6>that's jealousy of success, but I think there are people

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 6>who very much want to see their horseshoe theory come

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 6>to fruition where you've got Graham Platner and Nick Flint

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 6>days and that's somehow the right, and that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dream I'm coming back with Ben during the break.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be back on the other side. They'll go anywhere America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm qq welcome back. I'm with Ben Dominich on the

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Big Weekend Pod. Ben Barack Obama sat down with Lame

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Duck and failed Late Night quote comedian Stephen Colbert to

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>defend his record. Everyone would immediately go to him, obviously,

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to defend your record on the JCPOA, here's how the

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>exchange began.

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:10.879
<v Speaker 3>We pulled it off without firing a missile. We got

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 3>ninety seven percent of their enriched uranium up. They were

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 3>able to maintain a modest civilian nuclear program for energy.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you think it was working.

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, not only did I think it was working, even

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Israeli intelligence thought it was working. Even our intelligence services

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 3>thought it was working. So there's no dispute that it

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 3>worked and we didn't. We didn't have to kill a

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:42.400
<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of people or shut down a straight or

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 3>hor mooz.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, some things are self evident, Ben, you and I

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 1>are about to dispute that it works. So it's a

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:51.399
<v Speaker 1>lie that no one is disputing that it works. In fact,

0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of smart people know it didn't work,

0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 1>it had massive holes in it. Why is he trying

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to do this and why is he picking Cobert about

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 1>whom no one cares to do it with.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, first off, I would just say that a president,

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 6>a former president doing this while America is at war, like,

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm sorry, pick your moment, guy, Like if

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:16.400
<v Speaker 6>you want to come back and make the case for

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 6>this in the future in a book, you know, and

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 6>something like that. But America is currently in a war

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:25.359
<v Speaker 6>with Iran, and for him to go and sit down

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 6>with Colbert, who he knows. While while Colbert is a

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:33.799
<v Speaker 6>smart person, he plays this idiotic character on TV, I

0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:36.920
<v Speaker 6>think on purpose. He plays completely dumb. Whenever he has

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 6>a democratic guest on he never says anything critical. You know,

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 6>he's completely abandoned any pretense of that. He used to

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.399
<v Speaker 6>be smart enough, by the way to lampoon the right

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:47.479
<v Speaker 6>in such a way that even the right could laugh,

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:49.880
<v Speaker 6>and now he's just completely lost that. He's just a

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 6>total partisan hack. And it's really I mean, for someone

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.319
<v Speaker 6>who actually liked Colbert when he was much when he

0:54:56.360 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 6>was younger, when he was doing I mean the Dana

0:54:58.320 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 6>Carvey Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed being on a show. I enjoyed being his guest.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye.

0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>But the thing is that the former president would sit

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 6>down and defend this when everyone who knows this story

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 6>knows that that is just not true. Is an indication

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:14.239
<v Speaker 6>of his hubris. The fact that he thinks that he

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:18.360
<v Speaker 6>is above being questioned. It's the same kind of attitude

0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:20.760
<v Speaker 6>that he had when he rolled into Virginia and said

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:23.280
<v Speaker 6>that you know that our current setup was too racist

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 6>and that we needed to do this emergency Jerry Mander

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 6>that then got thrown out by the courts. Some constitutional

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 6>scholar he is. And this is the thing that I

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 6>think is so maddening about him. He will never question himself.

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 6>We've talked about George W. Bush before. I think he

0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 6>questioned his decisions to this day that he made as

0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:44.839
<v Speaker 6>president because he's someone who looks inward. Barack Obama does

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:49.000
<v Speaker 6>not have that capacity. He still views himself as I

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 6>am the one you were waiting for, and that is

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.319
<v Speaker 6>that is still I think the way that he's going

0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 6>to think about himself still the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the days, verging on tragic figure because, as Nema says,

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>his ego Yeah.

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 6>I say, I mean, if you could lampoon him, and

0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 6>I do think that it is possible to lampoon him.

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 6>That is exactly the type of character you would create.

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 6>It is just this utter, this complete, eat out, out

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 6>of control ego that thinks that he essentially could never

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 6>do anything wrong, and that everyone who is his critic

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 6>has some moral defect That is really at the heart

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 6>of why they're criticizing him. But that's just the way

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:27.760
<v Speaker 6>I think that he thinks about himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming back with Ben Dominic. Stay tuned, WROG. I'm

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:40.359
<v Speaker 1>back in America. I'm here here at Ben. My vulnerability

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is I believe I can discern people's character and they're

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 1>whether or not they're right or wrong politically, they're good faith.

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I have been proven wrong on Nick Kristock, and I'm

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:56.399
<v Speaker 1>bothered by it. I had him on the show many

0:56:56.400 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 1>many times, and I thought, good guy, he's wrong about Someltics,

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>but a path opens. He cares about the halt of poor,

0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the blind, the lame, and he's a good guy. Now

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:09.320
<v Speaker 1>he's written this horrible piece, and so I've been thinking

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 1>about it NonStop since he wrote this piece, and I

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 1>decided there there's a there's everyone has a brain in

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the heart. Anti Semitism begins in the heart. It's evil,

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and it fantastasizes to the brain, which camouflages it, and

0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 1>it comes out as anti Zionism, anti Israelism, and then

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 1>intellectually some people are become anti Zionist or anti Israel

0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 1>for reasons unrelated to being Jewish. But it moves and

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it fantastasizes to the heart and you become anti Semitic.

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:40.840
<v Speaker 1>That's my theory that I think it with Christop it

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.400
<v Speaker 1>was the latter. He had to be anti Israel because

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that's where the in crowd was, Tom Wolf, Maumowing and

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the flat catchers and ended up being anti Semitic. What

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 1>do you think happened to him?

0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 6>I do not know him well enough to have I

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 6>think I've been on a panel with him once or

0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 6>twice maybe, and don't know enough to analyze the reason

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 6>that he wrote what he did. I assume you have

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 6>related it to your listeners so that they have.

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Something Yeah, okay, all right.

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 6>What has to be going on in your brain as

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 6>a writer in order to accept that story on its

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:26.400
<v Speaker 6>face as having any merit whatsoever? Betrays a virulent strain

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 6>of anti Semitism running underneath it, That is in the

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:34.480
<v Speaker 6>top one percent. I mean, we're talking it is it

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 6>is you have to be so antisemitic to believe something

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 6>like that, to take it as being true at all,

0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 6>and certainly to run with this kind of unquestioning attitude

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.080
<v Speaker 6>of well, you know, you know, certainly this is something

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.400
<v Speaker 6>that could be possible. You know, you see things that

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 6>feel viral. Perhaps you don't, perhaps you don't you know,

0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 6>see these things in your feeds, But you see things

0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 6>that go viral that you know immediately are false if

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 6>you have a good radar for it, you know, and

0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 6>I think that I do. You know, you spot stuff

0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 6>and you say, Okay, that's fake, that's AI, that's fake,

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 6>this is going to be you know. And then what

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.920
<v Speaker 6>you frequently see is people community and community noting it

0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 6>into oblivion on X. But other people, I think they

0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 6>just don't have that questioning attitude, and so they're told

0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 6>a narrative that seems astounding on its face and they

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:26.760
<v Speaker 6>and they run with it. And in this case, my

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 6>question is less about Nick Christoft, because you do have

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 6>a you know, a personal connection there you about it

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 6>and you and I can understand your feeling because I've

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 6>experienced stuff like that before in my life where you

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 6>you misjudge a person. You know, I'm sorry, I thought

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.440
<v Speaker 6>you were a better person. That's on me. But here's

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.920
<v Speaker 6>the thing, when when you look at that story, why

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 6>did no one at the New York Times have the

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 6>ability to just say, pump the brakes on this? Are

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 6>we sure this is something that's even possible? Have we

0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 6>talked to any experts about these animals? Could they be

0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 6>trained to do this? Even it is astounding to me?

1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:07.200
<v Speaker 1>How do they keep it secret? No one participates in

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:10.439
<v Speaker 1>the training of the dog. It's like Dr Evil. It's

1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a ridiculous cartoon. So but I don't know if you've ever.

1:00:13.800 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 6>Want Hermi anyone question this like today, you apparently not.

1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:20.160
<v Speaker 1>It's opinion page. Do you remember Herman Woke?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 1>If you read the late Great Herman Woke's Winds of

1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:26.240
<v Speaker 1>War and Warner Remembrance. His central character is Aaron Jastrow

1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:29.200
<v Speaker 1>professor who said about Santaiana, I could smell he was

1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:31.560
<v Speaker 1>an anti Semite when he walked into the room. I

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:34.440
<v Speaker 1>have that gift. You know. I'm Irish Catholic, but I

1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:37.040
<v Speaker 1>can smell and anti semit when they walk into the room.

1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Nick was not that he talked himself into it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how it happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Something changed and you look, I will say there is

1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:50.560
<v Speaker 6>there is some inherent appeal in going along with what

1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 6>you see the cool kids doing, a quote unquote meaning

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:59.160
<v Speaker 6>it is. This is something that has become a general

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:02.360
<v Speaker 6>attitude dude on the left, to a much greater degree

1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:06.720
<v Speaker 6>than I think anybody has really understood. And this attitude

1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:11.240
<v Speaker 6>of you know, of colonization and of of you know,

1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:16.640
<v Speaker 6>deep seated theft and everything else like that is so present,

1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 6>ever present, particularly among young leftists, that it's possible that

1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:24.959
<v Speaker 6>that was the lure involved here. All I can say

1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.520
<v Speaker 6>is the New York Times has a much bigger problem

1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:30.480
<v Speaker 6>than I thought in terms of vetting these types of things.

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:32.520
<v Speaker 6>I've written for the New York Times opinion page, by

1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:34.480
<v Speaker 6>the way, and you have to go through chapter and verse.

1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:38.800
<v Speaker 6>I grant you the talk, Yeah, but chapter and verse

1:01:38.840 --> 1:01:40.720
<v Speaker 6>on every single thing. You even have to send like

1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 6>multiple references because they'll often not have read the things

1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:47.000
<v Speaker 6>that you're referring to. And so it's like, okay, let

1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:48.680
<v Speaker 6>me take a picture of this page of this book

1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:51.240
<v Speaker 6>and send it to this editory and that kind of thing,

1:01:51.960 --> 1:01:54.840
<v Speaker 6>and so the fact that this didn't go through that process.

1:01:55.280 --> 1:01:59.920
<v Speaker 6>It is astoundingly embarrassing. And instead the time it seems

1:01:59.920 --> 1:02:02.160
<v Speaker 6>to be sort of trying to just, you know, post

1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:03.200
<v Speaker 6>their way through it or something.

1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh now Christoff is trying to post his way through it.

1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:08.120
<v Speaker 1>He's just posting up. Well, I'm going to ignore it.

1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Not gonna work. He's self emilated. He's self emilated. He's

1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:15.200
<v Speaker 1>like the Buddhist monk in Vietnam. He's done. Let me

1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:19.040
<v Speaker 1>finish with gee. Nixon will go back and forth with

1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:22.720
<v Speaker 1>brenh neb and then Reagan will meet with garbagechev But

1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:26.200
<v Speaker 1>she isn't those guys. She isn't even on drop up.

1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:29.200
<v Speaker 1>She is stalin. Is there any point to this?

1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:34.200
<v Speaker 6>So this turned out pretty much like I thought it would,

1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:36.840
<v Speaker 6>where I just went into it thinking, I think a

1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:39.880
<v Speaker 6>lot less is gonna happen here than people think will happen,

1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:42.520
<v Speaker 6>that they had been kind of built up beyond what

1:02:42.720 --> 1:02:46.960
<v Speaker 6>was possible. I view this as being largely a waste

1:02:46.960 --> 1:02:49.600
<v Speaker 6>of time. I just don't think that there's going to

1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:51.360
<v Speaker 6>be much that comes out of it. But I also

1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:54.400
<v Speaker 6>think that it was important for the president to go

1:02:54.440 --> 1:02:59.400
<v Speaker 6>over there and not make any significant sacrifices of American interest,

1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:02.240
<v Speaker 6>and I think that that did succeed. I think that

1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:04.240
<v Speaker 6>he did get out of there without sort of giving

1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:06.200
<v Speaker 6>up anything that we're going to be all that worried

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<v Speaker 6>about though. The details are still going to come forward

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll see what happens. But one thing that I

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<v Speaker 6>do want to note, and I we have a weekend

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<v Speaker 6>interview series. It's starting tomorrow at o'deely wire. I have

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<v Speaker 6>Michael Soolikan I know you've had you've talked to him before,

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<v Speaker 6>I believe, who is a China expert, to talk all

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<v Speaker 6>about the meeting, what came out about Taiwan, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 6>et cetera. I hope people will check it out tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 6>But the thing that is really I think important about

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<v Speaker 6>this is that you could have had a situation where

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<v Speaker 6>she offered or dangled the possibility of you could fly

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<v Speaker 6>back home with this person or that person and get

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<v Speaker 6>a victory from that in exchange for something dramatic that's

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<v Speaker 6>way more important to she than holding on to a prisoner.

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<v Speaker 1>End of the United States.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly, And that is something that I think was

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<v Speaker 6>always a risky potential about this meeting and the president

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<v Speaker 6>if that was offered. I don't know if there was

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<v Speaker 6>didn't take it. So I look at this as being

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<v Speaker 6>something where the press built this up as being very important.

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<v Speaker 6>It's going to be viewed as less important. Uh and

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<v Speaker 6>in the larger scheme of things, is probably not going

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<v Speaker 6>to change.

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<v Speaker 1>He made a play for Jimmy Lyi. He said on

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<v Speaker 1>A four. When he's not getting Jimmy lis getting the

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<v Speaker 1>Christian pastorate, probably it's up to Popo Leo. Now Pope

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<v Speaker 1>Leo has to go get his Catholic And he asked

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<v Speaker 1>a way the Vatican has battalions that are unsane, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Pope has to go get the Catholic man. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think. You agree with that.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you're right. I agree completely, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>that I think it's going to be something that is,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it's a test for a you know, new

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<v Speaker 6>pope relatively, But it's one of these situations where I

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<v Speaker 6>just don't think there was going to be there was

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<v Speaker 6>too much that President Trump was going to have to

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<v Speaker 6>give up in that situation, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And so so, the most prominent Catholic martyr in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>the most visible one, is Jimmy Lai. She is killing him,

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<v Speaker 1>and Leo has said nothing the So the President made

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<v Speaker 1>a push, but he can't give up the American national interests. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>said Ben Domitic, I'll look for the new feature tomorrow.

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