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Speaker 1: Blue state governors, this is interesting. Are trying to block

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Speaker 1: last year, President Trump proposed no tax on tips. That

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Speaker 1: happened in the No Big Beautiful or One Big Beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 1: As I know you remember Scott bessont issuing a blistering

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Besson described the One Big Beautiful Bill the

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Speaker 1: It is a calculated move. Democrat leaders know that no

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Speaker 1: The partisan stonewalling is a direct assault on the very

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Speaker 1: The radical base of the party wanted to shut down

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Speaker 1: Besson added that the Treasury stands ready to work with

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Speaker 1: issued a sharp reminder the administration will not tolerate policies

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Speaker 1: This fight is about fairness and opportunity. It is about

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Speaker 1: putting America's Americans first. It is a gamble. I doubt

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Speaker 1: they will win again. No tax on tips became the

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Speaker 1: in real trouble if the economy doesn't recover. Look, I

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Speaker 1: The final count on that some twenty members of the Senate.

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Speaker 2: In Illinois, twenty one legal age, twenty one Republicans.

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Speaker 1: After the House Chamber in Indiana passed the redistricting map,

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Speaker 1: And so rather than Indiana losing two Democrat seats and

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Speaker 1: Indiana Republican senators, twenty one of them, we have their

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Speaker 2: Chris is either pack money at work, like dark pack money,

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Speaker 2: or some of these people are worried about their seats,

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Speaker 2: or they're worried that after Trump, the Republicans are going

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Speaker 2: to lose in perpetuity. I don't I guess it's one

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Speaker 1: Infuriating?

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Speaker 1: No, ID A lot of people say there were political

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Speaker 1: You know, Texas has done its part, very high profile,

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Speaker 1: to say they have stirred a hornet's nest. Everybody from

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Speaker 1: giving a talk on small business optimism. I thought this

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Speaker 1: was interesting from Fox Business. Small business optimism ticked higher

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Speaker 1: Get this, you ready finding suitable workers in the labor market?

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Speaker 1: never really liked that messaging. I have questioned whether it's

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Speaker 1: don't mean to talk about you that way if that

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Speaker 1: was your salary. But that's different than a job created

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Speaker 1: in the private sector. Government makes nothing. Jobs that are

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Speaker 1: real economy. So calling government workers the economy is, you know, effectively,

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Speaker 1: there have been big layoffs in the private sector and

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Speaker 1: More in a minute, the Senate majority leader in Indiana,

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Speaker 1: I tell you what. This guy was fired up yesterday.

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Speaker 1: His name is Chris Garton. And after these twenty one

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Speaker 6: Some will say these maps are political.

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Speaker 7: Let me be clear, right, they are.

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Speaker 8: Political.

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Speaker 6: Policy is political. Safe streets are political. Look at Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: Affordable electricity is political. A drug free Indiana is political.

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Speaker 9: Peace in the Middle East is political. I dealt with it.

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Speaker 6: Firsthand. If drawing a map that secures two more seats

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Speaker 9: Of American greatness.

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Speaker 1: So the capital of Indiana was hijacked twenty one Republicans

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Speaker 1: I remind you this is where the former Vice President

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Speaker 1: The state of Kansas is full Republicans, like these two.

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Speaker 1: It is a real problem in Indiana. I must confess

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Speaker 1: I didn't know a lot about the Indiana legislature until yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It always seems like it's Senate, the Senate body, the

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Speaker 10: It is even in the red state of Ohio, we

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Speaker 5: What they what they have said, they.

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Speaker 1: The agenda, Yeah, I won't do it. There's a new

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Speaker 1: This is what frosts me so much, folks. Is I

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Speaker 1: since the federal tip deduction doesn't change the state level,

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Speaker 1: ultimately it's about politics. Democrats run the show that Donald

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Speaker 1: Molly Hemingway said something interesting last night. She's a very

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Speaker 11: It's very smart of Donald Trump to focus on this issue.

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Speaker 11: Over the course of the next year, Poles repeatedly show

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump's first term was good on this front, and

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Speaker 11: but he needs to stay focused on it as well.

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Speaker 12: It'd be had to turn the housing market around very quickly.

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Speaker 12: It's haughtd to really really reach use healthcare cost very

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Speaker 12: a balancing act. If you had to make a forecast,

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Speaker 1: Putting money in people's focus, will that fly?

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Speaker 12: Will that result in the Republicans keeping the House in

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Speaker 11: I think it will help Republicans quite a bit, but

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Molly's take on this is it's not Trump

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Speaker 1: I know it's impossible to run around whining the Democrats

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Speaker 1: But there is some truth to it.

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Speaker 2: There is, But I don't know how you get that

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Speaker 1: There is apparently this perception that if one party is

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Speaker 2: I maybe in a small business you don't get the

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Speaker 1: So yeah, as we start talking about layoffs of middle

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Speaker 2: Pretty much, Chris, you can't you can't solve There are

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. If this economy ends

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Speaker 1: and present and in the place and maybe not as sexy,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it won't afford you the ability to, as

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Speaker 1: you say, work remotely and the other things. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: where the economy is headed. And what do we do

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Speaker 1: with that? Does that mean people have to change their

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Speaker 1: minds and attitudes about what work is and what work

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Speaker 1: looks like and what an average day of work looks

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Speaker 1: like and how to earn a liv It isn't that

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Speaker 1: people can't earn a living, It's that people don't choose

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Speaker 1: to earn a living the way they could earn a

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Speaker 1: living right now? Is that it? And how do you

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Speaker 1: talk about that?

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Speaker 2: If so, I don't know how to talk about it,

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Speaker 2: but I mean you hit on it during COVID that

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Speaker 2: the just the monumental shift. The way of thinking, the

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Speaker 2: way of doing things has completely changed, and that has

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Speaker 2: happened across.

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Speaker 1: The board with a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: There's people who say that putting in that kind of

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Speaker 2: time in an office or being present physically to collaborate

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Speaker 2: is not worth it to them. They'd rather, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather be able to see my family, do things

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Speaker 2: from home, take out the dog, whatever.

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Speaker 1: I just think that what is true, what is actually

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Speaker 1: happening and what is being sold to me. It continues

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Speaker 1: to come more and focus that there is a reality

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Speaker 1: on the ground of what's real and then what you're

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Speaker 1: being told, what has imagined and what is since versus

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Speaker 1: what's physically actually happening. Caroline Levitt does not like revisionist history.

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Speaker 1: She dotted Caitlin Collins of CNN between the eyes on

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Speaker 1: it yesterday, number seventy two on inflation.

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Speaker 13: But inflation is down from where it was as measured

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Speaker 13: by the overall CPI. It has slowed to an average

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Speaker 13: two point five percent base. This is down from what

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Speaker 13: the president inherited and to the president inherited two point

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Speaker 13: nine percent in January. Today it's at about two point

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Speaker 13: five percent. So we're trending in the right direction with

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Speaker 13: more to coom and I would remind you when President

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Speaker 13: Trump left office in his first term, inflation was one

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Speaker 13: point seven percent, and the previous administration jacked it up

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Speaker 13: to a record high nine percent. Again in ten months,

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Speaker 13: the President has caught us out of this hole. He's

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Speaker 13: kept it low at two point five percent, and we

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Speaker 13: believe that number is going to continue to decline, especially

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Speaker 13: as energy and oil prices continue.

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Speaker 9: To decline as well.

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Speaker 13: Maybe it wasn't mind or bid, and they're just saying

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Speaker 13: it's not fully.

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Speaker 1: The way, and that's good. I just pulled up to

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Speaker 1: the gas pump this morning. It's as low as it's

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Speaker 1: been in months. I mean, I don't remember the last

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Speaker 1: time I saw a price on a gallon of gas

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Speaker 1: as low as it is right now. Not for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Number seventy eight over at CNBC talking about the trade

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Speaker 1: deficit coming in lower than expected because of get this tariffs.

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Speaker 14: Minus fifty two point eight billion. That's a better lower

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Speaker 14: trade deficit than we expected. We were looking for a

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Speaker 14: number closer to sixty two billion, and that follows they

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Speaker 14: revised minus fifty nine billion. Minus fifty two billion would

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Speaker 14: be the lightest, going back to wow, we're really going back, Well,

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Speaker 14: my records go back to nineteen ninety two, and to

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Speaker 14: find a smaller number than minus fifty two billion, we're

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Speaker 14: all the way back to June of twenty twenty two

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Speaker 14: hundred and thirty six thousand is initial jobless claims.

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Speaker 1: The US trade deficit and goods and services narrowed more

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Speaker 1: than ten percent from August to September as the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration's tariffs continued to weigh on trades as the New

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Speaker 1: York Times, but imports grew, the trade deficit shrank, and

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Speaker 1: you heard Santelli there say you got to go back

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Speaker 1: to ninety two for numbers. This good. So look, perceptions, perception,

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing you can do about perception except try

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Speaker 1: to change it. President Trump, as we've chronicled this week,

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Speaker 1: is going to go out on the campaign trail with

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Speaker 1: Bessen and try to tell folks it's not as bad

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Speaker 1: as they're telling you it is. Hang on, you know,

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Speaker 1: the the fact of the matter is, if perception is

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Speaker 1: the problem, and it seems to be, I think I've

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Speaker 1: concluded that it's really about perception, less reality and more

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Speaker 1: perception that things suck, it's probably housing ed, wouldn't you guess.

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Speaker 1: I think the fastest surefire way to change perception on

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Speaker 1: the ground for Republicans is to do something about housing

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Speaker 1: renters versus houses being purchased. You think.

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Speaker 2: I think it absolutely is, because it's a clean issue

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Speaker 2: where they completely own the Democrats on because Democrats do

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Speaker 2: want you renting, They do want the home ownership to.

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Speaker 1: Them cloistered, consolidated to fifteen minute cities.

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Speaker 2: That's what they want, and they push it and their

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Speaker 2: people love it, especially the extreme part of their parties,

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Speaker 2: so that housing yes is something that the Democrat or

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Speaker 2: the Republicans can truly win on because they believe in

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Speaker 2: homeownership for people.

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Speaker 1: Affordability of homes is not a hoax. I mean, affordability

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Speaker 1: of homes is a problem. I think affordability across the

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Speaker 1: bar is not necessarily true. I don't think there's bread lines.

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Speaker 1: There's jobs. We're losing jobs, but there are jobs to

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Speaker 1: be found. It's not people are not wandering around with

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Speaker 1: ten pans, you know, begging for food. If they want

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Speaker 1: to work, there's work to be found. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's it. I don't think that's real. But I do

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Speaker 1: think somebody being able to script together enough money for

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Speaker 1: a down payment on a homemaker and afford that is

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Speaker 1: a real problem. And there's a fix. And may I

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Speaker 1: the stigall plan. I mean, I don't want to toot

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Speaker 1: my own horn, but it's an easy, easy fix. It's

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Speaker 1: right there. It's a fat pitch over the middle. Nobody

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Speaker 1: has told me why it wouldn't work. If you're not

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Speaker 1: familiar with it, buy and large, the overly simplified way

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Speaker 1: to put this is, you take free market people. You

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Speaker 1: take people in the private sector who have some money

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Speaker 1: and some wealth, let them invest in home lending. Give

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Speaker 1: let the tax code work to the advantage of wealthy

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Speaker 1: people who could underwrite lending for those who want to

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Speaker 1: get into a home for the first time at a

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Speaker 1: low interest rate loan courtesy of wealthy people in this

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Speaker 1: who make a little, maybe not a ton, but still

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Speaker 1: make a little on the side off the loan. But

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Speaker 1: the individual who takes out the loan isn't stuck with

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Speaker 1: some high interest rate. It could be cut in half

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Speaker 1: with private lending. By the way, I think young people

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Speaker 1: could roll student loan debt into that mortgage loan on

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Speaker 1: top of it. Give young people a hand up here.

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Speaker 1: That's the fastest way for Republicans to change this dialogue

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Speaker 1: right now. The stickgall plan. Figure out how to make

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Speaker 1: housing affordable quickly, figure out how to let young people

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Speaker 1: get into a house, and maybe even roll student loan

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Speaker 1: debt into the same note so that they can breathe.

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Speaker 1: If you do that, and you do it quickly, there's

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Speaker 1: your perception problem. In my opinion, that's the stigall plan

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Speaker 1: ed agreed, disagree. I agree.

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Speaker 2: I like that a lot, because you get these people

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Speaker 2: into a house, get houses affordable. It's the American dream.

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Speaker 1: It still is.

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Speaker 2: More people want to own a house than to rent,

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Speaker 2: at least young people coming up.

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Speaker 1: For sure. That is a it's a winner. It's a winner.

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Speaker 1: And nobody feels good about paying three thousand dollars a

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Speaker 1: month for a no two bedroom apartment. No, no, you know? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's go to Scranton. Talk to Judy. Hey, Judy,

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Speaker 1: glad you called. Welcome to open Line Friday.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, I love talking to you folks. Hey.

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Speaker 15: My husband and I got married and we moved to

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Speaker 15: Alaska and we saved up eighteen thousand dollars for our

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Speaker 15: first home, working hard. I cleaned the bunk houses and

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Speaker 15: he was a logger, and we came back home after

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Speaker 15: all four or five years and we had money, but

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Speaker 15: not enough. So my parents were both realtors and they

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Speaker 15: helped us and we worked and we found a house

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Speaker 15: that we could turn over for eighteen thousand dollars and

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Speaker 15: we paid cash for it, and we fixed it up

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Speaker 15: and sold it for sixty three thousand.

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Speaker 5: After that.

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Speaker 15: This was years ago, so you can do it, and

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Speaker 15: I don't know, I was a low wage worker. I

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Speaker 15: loved horse and I went to Kentucky and I worked

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Speaker 15: my way up to where I was assistant manager on

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Speaker 15: the East coast of a big standard bread farm. You know,

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Speaker 15: you can do it. I was a woman in a

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Speaker 15: man's business, and you can do it. And these jobs

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Speaker 15: are good jobs and maybe jobs that people would be

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Speaker 15: happy doing if they just started doing them.

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Speaker 1: Like so, Judy, are you saying this is a lack

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Speaker 1: of work? Ethic? Is your Is that what you're saying this?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like that's what you're saying. It's a lack

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Speaker 1: of work.

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Speaker 15: Chicken plucker, pig farmer's daughter from the beginning. And you know,

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Speaker 15: I love work, and I love to look at my

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Speaker 15: job after I'm done and.

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Speaker 16: I see it.

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Speaker 15: It's all raked up, it's all clean, everybody's tucked in,

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Speaker 15: and I get like, I don't know, I think we

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Speaker 15: need to teach our kids that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Judy, Merry Christmas to you. Thanks for the

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Speaker 1: phone call morn a minute. Excellence in dentistry. That's what

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Speaker 1: you're going to get at Williamsburg Dental. My friend Bob

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Speaker 1: Spinado is back on the phone. He's in Broomald just

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Speaker 1: off the blue route, and with two new associates, now

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Speaker 1: you can expand and offer more hours, maybe evening hours,

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Speaker 1: possibly weekends. Bob.

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Speaker 17: Yeah. One of the things that I told them from

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Speaker 17: early on when they started with me was the value

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Speaker 17: of not only their own time, but other people's times.

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Speaker 17: And they run on a similar schedule that I do.

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Speaker 17: If you've got a one o'clock appointment, you're in their

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Speaker 17: chair at one o'clock, and it's something that across the

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Speaker 17: border Wingsburg, Gennal. We really pride ourselves on whether it's

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Speaker 17: an appointment with the hygienister or whether it's appointment with

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Speaker 17: one of our doctors. The other thing is we now

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Speaker 17: have some expanded hours in the evenings and even even

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Speaker 17: there's some discussion about opening again on some Saturdays for services.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but not you. You're fishing. You're not kidding anybody.

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Speaker 1: It's not you going to be working on Saturday.

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Speaker 17: Come on, I'm in my thirty third year and it

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Speaker 17: should be the young gun.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You've earned it. You've earned it.

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Speaker 17: I feel like I have.

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Speaker 1: I know in just two weeks time. Right now, as

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Speaker 1: you know, I told you the reason he's doing it,

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Speaker 1: because I told you I lost forty pounds in under

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Speaker 1: four months earlier this year. Eddie said, I want to

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Speaker 1: I've kept the weight off. I'm going to probably go

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Speaker 1: it's a real pleasure to meet you for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for having me on to appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I think for people who again, well all of us

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Speaker 18: Sure, Wisconsin is actually the only active remaining case after

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Speaker 18: Donald Trump here in Wisconsin next summer.

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Speaker 8: There is going to be a two month.

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Speaker 18: Scheduled trial solely based on the Jack Smith complaint, which

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Speaker 18: was essentially refiled in Wisconsin by the Attorney General. Let

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Speaker 18: me give you a little bit of background on Wisconsin.

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Speaker 18: Wisconsin had I helped write the Wisconsin recount and election laws,

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Speaker 18: so everyone in Wisconsin who would know who I was

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Speaker 18: if they follow elections. I've represented governors and senators and congressmen,

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Speaker 18: the legislature itself, and so I was one of two

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Speaker 18: in two thousand and five. In two thousand and six,

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Speaker 18: we have a very up to date election code. So

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Speaker 18: it was a surprise to absolutely no one in this

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Speaker 18: state when the President called me and asked me to

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Speaker 18: represent him in the recount, because everyone acknowledged I'm candidly

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Speaker 18: that I was the expert in Wisconsin election law and recounts,

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Speaker 18: regardless of your party. So I took on that representation

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Speaker 18: after all the giant law firms said they wouldn't. I

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Speaker 18: was retired. I had been gleefully retired. I retired first

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Speaker 18: as a lawyer and then as a judge. I had

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Speaker 18: been retired for a number of years. But given that

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Speaker 18: the national law firms were all at cowards. I mean

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Speaker 18: that very sincerely, absolute cowards, I got angry and I

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Speaker 18: just called the President back. After refusing three times, I

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Speaker 18: finally said, I'll do it because these people you deserve

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Speaker 18: high level representation. And I should tell you I was

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Speaker 1: And so Judge, could I could I interrupt this part

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Speaker 1: of the story because you say none of the law

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Speaker 1: firms would touch it. Is that because the narrative at

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Speaker 1: the time was he's a kook, it's a conspiracy, he's

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Speaker 1: trying to rig it to win and stay in power,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't win, and they just didn't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about it, and that was kind of the working

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Speaker 1: narrative of the time. Is that about right?

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Speaker 8: I think, Look, I think that's about right. And you know,

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Speaker 8: they're again I say, lawyers are cowards. You know, they

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Speaker 8: always say, you know, at the end.

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Speaker 18: Of a trial, you get a trial, they say guilty,

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Speaker 18: And the guilty guy it turns to his lawyer and

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Speaker 18: he says, hey, what what happens now?

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Speaker 8: And he says, well, you go to jail and I

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Speaker 18: And and it's a sad joke that most lawyers are

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Speaker 18: absolutely risk averse, and particularly large law firms, and particularly

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Speaker 18: when it comes to kryptonite Donald Trump.

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Speaker 8: That continues to this day. Right, I mean, you just.

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Speaker 1: Six lawyers engaged, and for this you have become persona

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Speaker 1: non grata and more.

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Speaker 8: Oh my good.

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Speaker 18: More so, I thought, stupidly, I'm naive. I thought, well,

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Speaker 18: you do good job represent him. I mean alcoholm I

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Speaker 18: was retired. Seventeen legal actions seventeen and counting have been

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Speaker 18: filed against me. They're bankrupting me and my family. I'm

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Speaker 18: seventy two years old. The Attorney General now has brought

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Speaker 18: charges that are frivolous in the extreme in the most

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Speaker 18: liberal county. It makes a liberal county in Pennsylvania look

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Speaker 18: conservative Dane County, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 8: And he has brought those charges.

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Speaker 18: I will be put in jail for the rest of

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Speaker 18: my natural life for having represented the president of the

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Speaker 18: United States, and fascinatingly, not a single lawyer, not a

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Speaker 18: single lawyer, and they had twenty four on our case.

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Speaker 18: Ever said a single argument we were making was either

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Speaker 18: frivolous or unimportant.

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Speaker 1: Taken against you. Based on what I mean, I assume

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Speaker 1: all of them ridiculous, But can you give us the

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Speaker 1: flavor of some of the charges.

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Speaker 18: They still cause. For example, among them, they they subpoened

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Speaker 18: all my records. You heard about the secret subpoenas. They

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Speaker 18: took all my attorney client, confidential and judicial records that

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Speaker 18: were in my computers. They brought multiple bar complaints. They

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Speaker 18: brought a two million dollar civil lawsuit at one point

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Speaker 18: to scare everybody. I had taken my grandchildren on a

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Speaker 18: disney cruise, a disney cruise. As we were getting off

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Speaker 18: the boat in Miami, they grabbed my son in front

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Speaker 18: of his three children, took him to a separate room,

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Speaker 18: confiscated his electronics and copied them. Now, if that isn't

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Speaker 18: messaging me, Jack Smith and his people, you know, through

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Speaker 18: the Department of Naturalization, the people at the port, I

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Speaker 18: mean it is my wife every day for four or

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Speaker 18: five years now, has waited for our door to be

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Speaker 18: broken in. They broke into all my files, highly confidential

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Speaker 18: judicial and attorney fils, no consequence.

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Speaker 8: They take my son aside. They do that.

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Speaker 18: They filed bar complaints, nothing happens the civil lawsuit. Now

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Speaker 18: I face eleven felony counts and I should mention we

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Speaker 18: asked the Attorney general in advance before we used alternate

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Speaker 18: electors in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 8: I'm not making this up. Read it in the papers.

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Speaker 18: On December one, twenty twenty, the Attorney General of Wisconsin,

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Speaker 18: Josh call the left wing nut case we have here

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Speaker 18: told us in told us in papers that we could

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Speaker 18: preserve all of our rights as long as we had

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Speaker 18: alternate electors. On December eleventh of that year, I told

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Speaker 18: the State Supreme Court we were going to use alternate electors.

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Speaker 18: Why I said it right there, because the Attorney General

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Speaker 18: of this state told me too.

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Speaker 9: That.

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Speaker 18: Two years later, when asked again before he filed this case,

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Speaker 18: he wrote a legal opinion to the Wisconsin Election Commission

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Speaker 18: saying it is common to use alternate electors.

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Speaker 8: There's no fraud, there is no falsity here.

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Speaker 18: I mentioned this, and you could read every one of

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Speaker 18: these documents at Judge troopis dot com.

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Speaker 8: It's all there.

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Speaker 18: We got nothing to hide. The Atornity General won't even

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Speaker 18: give us his discovery. But you can look at everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: and your audience can look at everything at Judge.

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Speaker 1: I just want to let people know t r o

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Speaker 1: Where do things stand? Just with the limited time that

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Speaker 1: I have? What is the action item? What's next? And

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Speaker 1: who can be helpful and how well?

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Speaker 18: Well, first of all, if you could please donate, which

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Speaker 8: I feel bad asking, but they're bankrupting us.

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Speaker 18: I mean, that's the whole purpose here was to bankrupt

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Speaker 18: me and to send a message to every other lawyer

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Speaker 18: who ever wants to represent conservatives or the president. Right

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Speaker 18: now on Monday, on Monday, a judge who has effectively

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Speaker 18: admitted his own misconduct, we'll be holding a hero to

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Speaker 18: bind me over to a trial.

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Speaker 8: I again am not making this up.

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Speaker 18: We presented comprehensive evidence from a Georgetown University linguist that

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Speaker 18: the opinion this judge claims to have written that kept

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Speaker 18: this case going, he didn't write it. An activist and

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Speaker 18: private citizen and former judge wrote the opinion. We used

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Speaker 18: former FBI linguists to say that the judge has never

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Speaker 18: denied that.

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Speaker 8: Literally he had somebody.

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Speaker 1: Judge by the court write, judge, can I ask you

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Speaker 1: this is at the federal level. Is there any help

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Speaker 1: that can be extended? Or is this a state matter?

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Speaker 1: And because it's in Wisconsin, the Fed's the White House,

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Speaker 1: they can't be of help.

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Speaker 18: We have begged, begged the Attorney General to get involved,

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Speaker 18: begged them to begin an FBI investigation. I've met with

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Speaker 18: Ed Martin. He's a wonderful guy. I've met with him

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Speaker 18: multiple times, and this is clearly not a state law issue.

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Speaker 18: It's a federal election. They're now saying that for us

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Speaker 18: to use a federal process alternate electors provided for in

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Speaker 18: the Constitution and in the law was illegal, it was

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Speaker 18: up it was a forgery in other words, in other words,

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Speaker 18: it trumps all federal law on a presidential election. That's

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Speaker 18: insane and sponker. We have begged the Department of Justice

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Speaker 18: to get involved. We need them involved.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope they're listening. We're going to continue to

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Speaker 1: follow this. Judge. I hate that you're going through this,

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Speaker 1: but very very noble that you're willing to step into

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Speaker 1: the breach when no one else would. But I know

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Speaker 1: noble doesn't pay the bills. Judge Tropis dot com t

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Speaker 1: r U pis, Sir, will you please stay in touch,

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Speaker 1: come back and update us as this story continues to unfold,

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Speaker 1: and we will follow.

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Speaker 8: You as well. As I said, I'd be very pleased to.

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Speaker 18: I really hope that your audience looks into it, because

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Speaker 18: this is I think Donald Trump is going to be

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Speaker 18: tried next summer in order to influence the congressional elections.

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Speaker 18: That's why they've kept this case open. Is a national

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Speaker 18: case and they understand that.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Great to be with you and a merry Christmas. Open

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Speaker 1: line Friday continues at eight five five Stigall, I want

873
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Speaker 1: to thank you so much for doing what I knew

874
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Speaker 1: you'd do, and that is step up and help us

875
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Speaker 1: charge this hill for the Angel Tree folks. This is big.

876
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Speaker 1: We are now well look what we thirteen days until Christmas?

877
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Speaker 1: But really we have about I'm calling it. I'm giving

878
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Speaker 1: myself an arbitrary deadline of five more days, one more week,

879
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Speaker 1: one more solid week. We have a little more time

880
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Speaker 1: than that, but I'm going to call it the next

881
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Speaker 1: five days after today and through the weekend. Have you

882
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Speaker 1: been able to if you're able to step up and

883
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: help us with this Angel Tree campaign? We have a

884
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: brand new way to so I asked the team. I said,

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Speaker 1: is there a way we can come up with that

886
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: makes it super super easy for people that have been

887
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: listening to the show And they're like, I want to give,

888
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: but Chris, I don't have time. I went to the

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Speaker 1: webit bad. I get it. People are you have a

890
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Speaker 1: time issue? So we have got away. Now you can

891
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: text your donation, all right, So if you text, then

892
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: We're going to send you a link and you can

893
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: click on the link and give this way, if you

894
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: text Chris to nine for eight seven eight. Text Chris,

895
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: that's my name to nine for eight seven eight, you

896
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: will instantly get a link sent to you where you

897
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: can click on it and give that thirty dollars gift

898
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: for the Angel Tree Ministry. This is all to help

899
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Speaker 1: those kids of imprisoned people. You know, again, the kids

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Speaker 1: no fault of their own. They have parents, a parent

901
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: that is incarcerated, and you know, look, whatever you think

902
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: of that isn't important. It's about extending the love of Jesus.

903
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: It's about extending grace to the child who needs to

904
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Speaker 1: know they have a parent that still cares for them.

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Speaker 1: Every kid deserves a Christmas. Every kid deserves to know

906
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Speaker 1: what they're cared for and they're loved. And the Angel

907
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Tree Ministry what I love that they do with your

908
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: thirty dollars gift. They not only get a gift in

909
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: the hand of one of these kids, they get a

910
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: note from their parent too to accompany that gift, so

911
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: the kid knows their parent is thinking of them. And

912
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: you know how much that means, particularly if you're someone

913
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Speaker 1: who has maybe not had a parent in your life.

914
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: These kids, it's tough to know mom or dad is

915
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: locked away, and they wonder sometimes if anyone's even thinking

916
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: about them. At Christmas, your thirty dollars gift gets a

917
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: gift in their hand, a note from their parent. And

918
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Speaker 1: most importantly, what I love they do is they introduce

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Speaker 1: the Bible into the home of this child. A Bible

920
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: comes along with it too. You know, it is not

921
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Speaker 1: often talked about, but it is important to know that

922
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Speaker 1: there are prisoners who look rightfully paying the penalty for

923
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Speaker 1: some screw up they've made. But they notice what you're

924
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: doing too, and they care, and many of them want

925
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Speaker 1: very desperately to reform, come out and start life anew

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Speaker 1: with that kid. Mark tells us about being on both

927
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Speaker 1: sides of this story. Mark was in jail and he

928
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Speaker 1: benefited from prison fellowship. In your donation, listen to this.

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Speaker 19: And I remember at one point towards the end of

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Speaker 19: my prison me getting out, and then some of my

931
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Speaker 19: family members saying, we've been praying for you and we're

932
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Speaker 19: glad that you're home. Never give up on somebody does

933
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Speaker 19: behind a prison wall. And I believe that if we

934
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Speaker 19: pour love into those children. If they have an opportunity,

935
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Speaker 19: they are going to be pillars of our community.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know someone like Mark. I do.

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Speaker 1: Literally last weekend was with a guy who had been

938
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Speaker 1: locked away for a while for a meth addiction. Great

939
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Speaker 1: shame of his life, but he turned his life around.

940
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Speaker 1: He has a beautiful family and a wife, but he

941
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Speaker 1: was locked away for a time. You would know it

942
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Speaker 1: talking to him today. Many thousands of people out there,

943
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Speaker 1: stories like that, that need a second chance and a

944
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: second opportunity. But their kids. Again, doesn't matter what's going

945
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Speaker 1: on with their parent behind bars, it's what's going on

946
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Speaker 1: a home with this kid. Are they gonna have a

947
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Speaker 1: good Christmas or not? That's up to you and me.

948
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Speaker 1: Can you help? I set the goal of twenty six

949
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Speaker 1: hundred kids, and we are. We're at about almost sixty

950
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Speaker 1: percent there with what I'm giving us as a week

951
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Speaker 1: to go, because I want to make sure we get

952
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: these gifts out the door. And as soon as you

953
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: donate that thirty dollars, that gift goes right out the door.

954
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: If you can do more, thank you. A couple of

955
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: ways to do it again. Text Chris to nine four

956
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: eight seven eight text Chris to nine four eight seven eight,

957
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: or you can do it this way. You can go

958
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: to Christigall dot com and there is a link right

959
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: there at the page and click on that and give

960
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: that way. I hope that you will, and thank you

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Speaker 1: in advance so much for what you do. Waiting patiently

962
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Speaker 1: in Chicago, Illinois. Hi, Colleen, thanks for waiting. Good morning, Good.

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Speaker 5: Morning to you. I'm grateful for your open line Friday.

964
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Speaker 5: That's that's a sweet treat. And like you say, a

965
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 5: blast from the past. You've been talking about financing for

966
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Speaker 5: young couples, how to get started, and that was initiated

967
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Speaker 5: my interesting calling. But I will say kuda dittos to

968
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Speaker 5: Judy because I did practically the same thing she did.

969
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Speaker 5: But here's here's the here's here's some few more things

970
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Speaker 5: to add to your bag of tricks. First of all,

971
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Speaker 5: when you're talking about wealthy people getting together and making

972
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Speaker 5: these loans, it sounds very much to me like a

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Speaker 5: credit union. Credit unions can do this. That's a source

974
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Speaker 5: of money, and people not just necessarily wealth extremely wealthy people,

975
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Speaker 5: but people with enough extra can buy into a credit union,

976
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Speaker 5: can get together and make one. And that the laws

977
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Speaker 5: will vary from state to state, but there's certainly federal laws,

978
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Speaker 5: I'm sure about it. But they will loan at lower

979
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Speaker 5: rates and the usual longer periods, and it's generally local

980
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 5: and and that worked out just tremendously in the past

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Speaker 5: for us. We bought our first car because by the

982
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Speaker 5: only new car I bought my entire life. You Carlins

983
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Speaker 5: were short term and the nut was too big to crack,

984
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Speaker 5: so we we finances through the credit union longer term,

985
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Speaker 5: make the payments. All was good, and then the thing

986
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Speaker 5: was the u with the financing would be you know,

987
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Speaker 5: you could get businesses in the community, the and or.

988
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Speaker 5: Of course the wealthy could do it, and of course

989
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 5: they're all making money, but they're just not doing it

990
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 5: as as hard and as fast. But when we were

991
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 5: kids but starting out, there was also a thing called

992
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Speaker 5: rent with option to buy, and you rented the house

993
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Speaker 5: and did whatever. And we always looked for rundown places,

994
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Speaker 5: which is another way people could make money. We'd buy

995
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 5: distress properties, fix them up and turn them so we

996
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 5: were past the place where we would have to pay

997
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 5: extra taxes for them to sell, but we would like

998
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Speaker 5: every twenty four months or so, twenty five months, we

999
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Speaker 5: would return over a place and we get a.

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Speaker 1: Bigger So, Colleen, are you saying do you think the

1001
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Speaker 1: marketplace exists at present? Or this is the sort of

1002
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: thing that Republicans ought to push for and advocate for

1003
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Speaker 1: or direct young people too, because ownership, you know, for

1004
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: young people. I think you changed the direction of the conversation.

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Speaker 1: If young people feel like they've got skin in the

1006
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Speaker 1: game and some ownership, I think that's how you ward

1007
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: off this socialism chatter that guys like Mom Donnie are selling,

1008
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: That's wonderful. And just one more quick thing. You know,

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Speaker 5: young people get out of the service with a with

1011
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Speaker 5: the ability to get alan on a home no money down,

1012
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 5: which is a great way to start. You might just

1013
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 5: think of that doing that, or you could look at

1014
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 5: all the houses that have been fired finance for those

1015
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 5: loans where they fall they fall through. Young people can't

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Speaker 5: keep up the payments and du and the vast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Coline, thank you, I appreciate it very very much.

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of ideas, and that's what I mean.

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00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: I think if Republicans can think outside the box a

1020
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: little bit here and think about creative ways to tell

1021
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: young people they don't have to be saddled with student

1022
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Speaker 1: loan dead and they can have the option to get

1023
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Speaker 1: into housing. And I think you can consolidate those efforts.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a way to get young people into

1025
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Speaker 1: a home and consolidate their student loans. And I think

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Speaker 1: it could all be written underwritten, kind of like Colleen said.

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Speaker 1: And if you want a credit union type situation that

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Speaker 1: maybe is funded by wealthier people. Look, I'm not a

1029
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Speaker 1: finance guy, but the number of people that have said

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Speaker 1: to me that they would be interested in doing something

1031
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Speaker 1: like that. And again, it's an investment, it's not just

1032
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Speaker 1: a giveaway. I mean, it's you know, wealthy people would

1033
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Speaker 1: get a return on their money, maybe not as much

1034
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Speaker 1: as they might in the market. But let's go to

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Speaker 1: a in Orlando. Hey, Eric, thanks a lot for calling

1036
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Speaker 1: on Open Line Friday.

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Speaker 20: Good morning, Good morning, Chris. Been listening to for quite

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Speaker 20: some time, and you've got some fascinating guests on and yeah,

1039
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Speaker 20: I think over the last six months I've been focusing

1040
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Speaker 20: on this. I have a finance background. I've been in

1041
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Speaker 20: the home financing sector for over thirty years, and I

1042
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 20: did find ways back in the early two thousands late

1043
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Speaker 20: nineteen nineties to help people get into housing by actually

1044
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 20: developing housing projects that were affordable. And I basically were

1045
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 20: building town homes because obviously the land costs development costs

1046
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 20: are high, or were high not the time, but they're

1047
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 20: getting higher all the time. But you know, you could

1048
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 20: build something affordable, and you could compete with the rental

1049
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Speaker 20: community and actually build something and sell something to somebody

1050
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Speaker 20: with as little as three percent down or three and

1051
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Speaker 20: a half percent down and beat the rent roll and

1052
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Speaker 20: basically get somebody into a house or townhouse for less

1053
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Speaker 20: than it costs them to rent, and sold them the

1054
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Speaker 20: staffs that I could build them. And I was looking

1055
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Speaker 20: to build new ones and more, and of course government

1056
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 20: gets in the way, and then there's all kinds of

1057
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 20: challenges to take place. And so that was a dream

1058
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Speaker 20: observed or actually scene, and never witnessed again. But for

1059
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Speaker 20: the last six months, I've had people go to me

1060
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Speaker 20: and say, you know, what can we do about housing?

1061
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 20: What can we do? And I've been thinking about it

1062
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Speaker 20: for over two years and trying to put a round

1063
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Speaker 20: peg in a square hole, And all of a sudden,

1064
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Speaker 20: I thought, well, what about ad us, which is an

1065
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 20: additional house unit. It puts a whole new spin on housing,

1066
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Speaker 20: and people are trying to do it with tiny homes

1067
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 20: behind their homes and trying to generate additional revenue streams

1068
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Speaker 20: be within their own I'll say plot of land. And

1069
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Speaker 20: what I'm doing now is I'm finding what we call

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Speaker 20: infill lots at reasonable prices there in the outskirts of

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 20: you know, the aul say town.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's fascinating. Can I just cut to the chase,

1073
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Speaker 1: because I want to make sure I get time to

1074
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Speaker 1: get this concept out. What you're saying basically, and I

1075
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Speaker 1: don't I don't mean to oversimplify this, but just for

1076
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Speaker 1: my own dumb head, you're saying people that own I

1077
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Speaker 1: don't know, let's say, five ten acres of land that

1078
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Speaker 1: their house sits on, selling off a chunk of that

1079
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Speaker 1: to put a house on that.

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Speaker 21: Yes, well they can do that, but I think it's

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Speaker 21: a much, much, much smaller scale. Basically, a lot to

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Speaker 21: say eighty foot wide one hundred and twenty foot deep

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Speaker 21: that's you know, basically not been developed yet, and they're

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Speaker 21: all over the place in central Florida, and you basically

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Speaker 21: build instead of one structure, three bedroom, two bath, you

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Speaker 21: build a three bedding, two bath single family residents, and

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Speaker 21: then you put a what we call an ADU or

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Speaker 21: an additional housing unit on that property like a casita

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Speaker 21: or basically we call it a cato kalin. People remember

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Speaker 21: the Ojes house right exactly and basically this went away

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Speaker 21: about forty years ago, or mother in law suite, and

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Speaker 21: literally it's a one bedroom, one bath, self contained unit.

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Speaker 20: It is built at the same time you're building the

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Speaker 20: single family residence. It has an income stream now for

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Speaker 20: that homeowner that we can use as a lender for

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Speaker 20: the homeowner who's buying. So in other words, that mortgage

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Speaker 20: that would be saved twenty five hundred dollars a month

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Speaker 20: is now reduced to fifteen hundred dollars a month because

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Speaker 20: you can use the renth to qualify that buyer to

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Speaker 20: buy the package. And now it's like a duplex.

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Speaker 5: You now have a rentless.

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Speaker 1: See you're you're thinking, you're you're creatively thinking is the point?

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Speaker 1: And I love that? And so do you think ultimately

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Speaker 1: that if this were introduced or something like this we're

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Speaker 1: introduced to a Republican started talking this way, do you

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00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: think this would thwart this message of affordability a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that would get people excited and thinking

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Speaker 1: positively about the Republicans If they're talking like you and

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Speaker 1: I r right now about this.

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Speaker 20: Everybody would get excited about it. I'm not Republicans or Democrats.

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Speaker 20: I think everybody understands is. Even the county people that

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Speaker 20: I deal with are embracing it. They're actually encouraging me.

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Speaker 20: They're actually giving me referential treatment to now push through

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Speaker 20: permitting to push through the whole concept, allowing me to

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Speaker 20: even develop even larger tracts of land that are these

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Speaker 20: types of communities that are built for first time homeowners

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Speaker 20: that pull people out of rentals and actually create a

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Speaker 20: housing nit for them, a rental experience driving income. So

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Speaker 20: these people, these young people and I bought my first

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Speaker 20: home at twenty three out of graduating college. You know,

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Speaker 20: it gets them into the game. It gets them and

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Speaker 20: it stabilizes the community as well.

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Speaker 1: So they all like it. Listen, I love it. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's great and I hope you'll stay in touch.

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Speaker 1: Please email me. You can go to my email is

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Speaker 1: right there a Christigall dot com. And would I would

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Speaker 1: love it if you have a concise write up on that.

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Speaker 1: I would love to read more about it and pass

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Speaker 1: it along. That's what we're we're in the business of

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Speaker 1: trying to do here in our little corner of the world,

1131
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Speaker 1: is trying to offer up some solutions to change the

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Speaker 1: dynamic and the discussion. You sound like you've got a

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Speaker 1: brilliant idea. I'd love to pass it along. I hope

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Speaker 1: others are embracing it. Thank you for that. See, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. This audience is chock full of people that

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Speaker 1: are thinking. They're not just sitting around carping and whining.

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Speaker 1: They actually are thinking about solutions. That's what we do here.

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Speaker 1: That's what I am so happy and proud to affiliate

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Speaker 1: with his audience over is people that are thinkers, doers,

1140
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Speaker 1: positive looking forward, not just sitting around carping and belly aching.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, man, I appreciate you. Eight five five St. Gaul.

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Speaker 1: Let me quickly get to Claire and Pittsburgh. Hey Claire,

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01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: good morning, Welcome in.

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Speaker 22: Hey good morning, Chris. Thanks for taking my call. Hey,

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Speaker 22: I just wanted to make mention a little comment about

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 22: Alex yesterday. That was the gentleman that you were talking

1147
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 22: about about self responsibility, personal responsibility for drug use, etc.

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Speaker 22: I want to compliment you on the discourse between the

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01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 22: two of you and how that's the way we should

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01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 22: all talk when.

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Speaker 3: We possibly disagree on things.

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Speaker 22: He was very controlled, You were very controlled.

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Speaker 5: It was great.

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Speaker 3: My point is to Alex is everybody doesn't have that.

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Speaker 3: I see it in my own family. Everybody isn't blessed

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Speaker 3: with that internal fortitude that he was talking about. We

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Speaker 3: all need. And young people make mistakes. And I even

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Speaker 3: know that myself. I was given a pill in college.

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01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 3: I had no idea what it was. I could have been.

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Speaker 3: I could have been given something and I could not

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Speaker 3: be talking to you right now. So kids, young kids

1162
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 3: make mistakes. And there's even adults who have been trying

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Speaker 3: to quit smoking for thirty years and because the addiction

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Speaker 3: is so strong, they can't. They know that, they know

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Speaker 3: the harm that it could come to them, but they

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Speaker 3: still can't get away from it. So if you're on

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Speaker 3: a drug that is so addicting, it's hard. So I

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Speaker 3: understand Alex because now I'm like that. I'm very strong

1169
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Speaker 3: and can't understand people that can't break away. But I

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Speaker 3: see why.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Claire, thank you, thank you for your candor. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, people need your prayers because I'm telling you, ultimately,

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01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit is what entered in my life and

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Speaker 1: helped me kick mine. That was the only thing. They

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Speaker 1: got it done in a minute. Thank you. I don't

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Speaker 1: follow college football at all. I don't know anything about

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Speaker 1: college football. I'm going to stipulate right now, but I

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Speaker 1: realize and I do know that of all the college

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Speaker 1: football teams out there, Penn State is one of them.

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Speaker 1: It's like church for people. College football programs are like

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Speaker 1: their church. I've been to a couple of Penn State games,

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Speaker 1: so I've seen this firsthand. I did not go to

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Speaker 1: a big school. I'm a D two school guy, so

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Speaker 1: I never had the I mean, I had school spirit

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Speaker 1: and everything, but I didn't have the facet. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have the rabid, you know, Penn State wide out experience.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the Michigan you know, seventy five thousand

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Speaker 1: packing an arena experience, you know.

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Speaker 9: What I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't have that.

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Speaker 2: No, that makes sense, Yeah I didn't either.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean as much to me this story

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Speaker 1: of what's going on in Michigan right now with their

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Speaker 1: football program and their head coach. But it is a

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Speaker 1: bananas story. Have you been following it just a little bit?

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Speaker 2: This is the Yes. Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: They're they're head coach. I don't know what their record is,

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Speaker 1: but obviously Michigan they're doing very, very well and they're

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Speaker 1: on their way to I think that they're entering in

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Speaker 1: of the Citrus Bowl or something like that. But this guy,

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Speaker 1: Sharon Moore is in police custody, fired for cause this week.

1202
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Speaker 1: Now again, this guy's rolling. He's winning, winning, winning, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: proud of their football team and their program and their

1204
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Speaker 1: coach and the whole thing. Well, it turns out he's

1205
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Speaker 1: been dipping his pen and Company inc. He had an

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Speaker 1: assistant there in the football program that he was, you know,

1207
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Speaker 1: drawn up plays with on the side, and then I

1208
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: guess went south. But the records show that she suddenly

1209
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Speaker 1: got something like a forty thousand dollars a year bumping

1210
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Speaker 1: salary for seemingly no increase in responsibilities. And it had

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Speaker 1: been investigated for a while and he was denying that

1212
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Speaker 1: it was the case. But at any rate, he gets

1213
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Speaker 1: fired because it's finally come to light that yes, in fact,

1214
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Speaker 1: he was doing this. And then he goes nuts and

1215
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Speaker 1: allegedly allegedly, this guy grabs a knife and heads to

1216
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Speaker 1: his former assistance apartment, where she calls the police and says,

1217
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Speaker 1: he's attacking me, and he's like, he took off on

1218
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Speaker 1: foot and he's suicidal. And he's finally arrested at a

1219
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Speaker 1: church and he drops the knife and the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: and now he's locked up behind bars. This is like

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Speaker 1: one of the winningest football coaches out there in college football,

1222
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Speaker 1: on the Michigan program, and I know Michigan fans are

1223
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Speaker 1: like as proud of their football team as anything. I

1224
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Speaker 1: didn't know how to process that if you're a fan

1225
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Speaker 1: of a football team like that and your head coach

1226
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: goes berserk. And now of course it's cascading all these

1227
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Speaker 1: women and only fans chicks online that are all claiming

1228
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Speaker 1: that he's been talking with them, and he's apparently got

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Speaker 1: quite an eye for the ladies. I guess. So I

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Speaker 1: don't really have anything to add to that other than

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Speaker 1: it's a banana story. He's in custody and they're on

1232
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Speaker 1: the what's that do to a team? You're on your

1233
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: way to a bowl game and your coach is locked

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Speaker 1: up for being a lunatic. I mean, Luckily.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Michigan had not they didn't have aspirations

1236
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: to but I don't think they had a chance of

1237
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Speaker 2: winning the national title this year.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's bowls season.

1239
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Speaker 2: There's a million bowls. People are annoyed with the college

1240
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: football playoff anyway, So yeah, it sucks for them. I

1241
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: really feel bad for them. But uh yeah, they will

1242
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Speaker 2: not be winning a national title.

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Speaker 1: I can assure you that's an uncomfortable situation going on

1244
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Speaker 1: in Michigan. Eric Schmidt, one of our favorite senators, took

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Speaker 1: a two by four to the media yesterday. This was

1246
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: tremendous talking about the Narco terrorist boats being blown out

1247
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: of the water. One of these ladies, what about the

1248
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Speaker 1: poor fisher boats the fisherman, Eric Schmidt, no time for

1249
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Speaker 1: that number seventy one. Listen to this.

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Speaker 22: If you can see in real time that killing anyone

1251
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 22: should not have been the way that these fishing boats will.

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Speaker 9: All say, fishing boats? Are you? What are you? What

1253
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 9: was a fishing boats? Those are fishing boats? Those aren't

1254
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Speaker 9: fishing boats?

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Speaker 23: If you.

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Speaker 9: Urbo charge, Okay, well, let's talk about Article two authority.

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Speaker 24: The President of the Commander in Chief has identified and

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Speaker 24: designated terrorist organizations. Where are cartels who run drugs that

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Speaker 24: kill one hundred thousand Americans a year. So there's no

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Speaker 24: legal question that he has the legal ability to blow

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Speaker 24: those boats out of the water, and they will continue this. However,

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Speaker 24: these were economic sanctions by the President as delegated by Congress.

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Speaker 24: Those were enforced by civil authorities with the aid of.

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Speaker 9: The US Navy. So we're talking about two very different things.

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Speaker 9: But if you're asking me if I have sympathy.

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Speaker 24: For narco terrorists killing Americans, whose votes that are carrying

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Speaker 24: the drugs.

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Speaker 9: That kill Americans, I don't.

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Speaker 24: I have sympathy for my neighbors in Missouri who've been poisoned,

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Speaker 24: who die, and we finally have a president who cares

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01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 24: about them more than the Democrats care about going down

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Speaker 24: to El Salvador to drink Margarita's with terrorists.

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Speaker 1: Hrumph, Senator Schmidt, more a minute. You heard me earlier

1274
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Speaker 1: this year, I hope, talking about our partnership with Prison Fellowship,

1275
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: the non for profit Christian organization that helps kids who

1276
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: have incarcerated parents enjoy a little fresh air and fun

1277
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: out in the open outdoors during summer camp. Well, they

1278
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: do great work at Christmas time too, and we're proud

1279
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Speaker 1: to partner with them again in what they call their

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Speaker 1: Angel Tree Christmas campaign. You know, there are thousands of

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01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: kids all over the country, through no fault of their own,

1282
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: who see one or maybe even both of their parents

1283
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: incarcerated this time of year, and what a what a

1284
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: tough thing that is. You know, a child should be

1285
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: enjoying the Christmas season, and with something that heavy in

1286
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: their home, it's often difficult to do. What I love

1287
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Speaker 1: about Prison Fellowship is and what is so cool about

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Speaker 1: what Angel Tree does. They take a thirty dollars donation

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Speaker 1: that you give and they can turn that into a

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Speaker 1: gift for a young person who may be struggling this Christmas.

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Speaker 1: And best of all, it's not just a gift, a

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Speaker 1: written note from their parent who happens to be incarcerated,

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Speaker 1: this Friday edition of The Stigallf Show. Looking at Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: this morning, we're looking at the Christmas Village. There always

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Speaker 1: a good time. If you're in Philadelphia and you haven't

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Speaker 1: been to Love Park there, the Christmas Village is a

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Speaker 1: great stop. Do you do that this year?

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Speaker 6: Ed?

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Speaker 1: I know you take the family there every now and again.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time you went.

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Speaker 2: So they had to shut it down for Palestine thing.

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Speaker 2: When the last that was last year when my whole family,

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Speaker 2: we had like thirty of us that we're supposed to

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Speaker 2: go spend time together, so we didn't. And honestly, if

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go, it would be tonight. That would

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Speaker 2: be the last chance I have to go, So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: So it's there. It's always fun. I mean, it's really

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Speaker 1: it's really puts you in the spirit. It's one of

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Speaker 1: and into a place that's quaint. It makes you. They

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Speaker 1: The Oregon concert in there too. You know, there used

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Speaker 1: to be a Macy's in what's known as the Old

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Speaker 1: adjacent from City Hall, and it was a family tradition

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Speaker 1: and everything. And then Macy's went bankrupt or whatever and

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Speaker 1: packed up and left the building. But they had an

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Speaker 1: impromptu show yesterday where people were lined up down the

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Speaker 1: street to go in and see it. There's some just

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Speaker 1: wonderful Philadelphia Christmas traditions that you hate to see but

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Speaker 1: go by the wayside because the progressive left ruins it,

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Speaker 1: to your point, but they do they have right, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: shoplifting right right, yes, I mean Macy's was the sty

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Speaker 1: by shoplifters. I mean, just so you understand, like people

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Speaker 1: were coming in and just stealing thousands of dollars worth

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Speaker 1: of goods out of that Macy's and that will water

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Speaker 1: make your building and left unpunished because there's a lunatic

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Speaker 1: progressive da that won't punish criminals. So that's what happens

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Speaker 1: to business and great family traditions and beautiful cities like Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: When lunatics are allowed to run roughshot over the city.

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Speaker 9: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyway, that's not exactly an advertisement, but could

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Speaker 1: you'd like to go. It's a beautiful bring your firearm

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Speaker 1: and enjoy the Christmas Village there at Love Park in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: the Herum Society every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and I am

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Speaker 1: give it away everybody. I'm going to publish a new

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Speaker 1: I am waving admission fee to my newsletter with the

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Speaker 1: hope that you'll help us out with our angel Tree drive.

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Speaker 1: All right, so you can find all this at Chris

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Speaker 1: Stigaul dot com. But one of the things that you know,

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Speaker 1: revelation addiction and why young people particularly young men, particularly

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Speaker 1: it out there right now and are gravitating toward people

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Speaker 1: who are selling I think a lot of poison. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there have been very positive spiritual stories about how a

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Speaker 1: lot of them are trending toward churches and reading scripture,

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Speaker 1: and that's all good, but I think there's also a

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Speaker 1: on George George, George Floyd, lunatic stuff that used to

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Speaker 1: left has sort of gone full circle now, or if

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Speaker 1: you want to call it, what used to be conservatism

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Speaker 1: by some of these people has now gone so far

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Speaker 1: one direction that it's circled around to become a progressive

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Speaker 1: left pitch. But it's not good. And I've told you

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Speaker 1: that one of the reasons this has happened with young

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Speaker 1: white men in this country and why they're so angry

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Speaker 1: and ticked off and feel so aggrieved, is because if

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Speaker 1: people like Democrat state representative in Kentucky, Sarah Stalker, and

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Speaker 1: if you don't know what I'm talking about, you haven't

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Speaker 1: heard this woman take a listen to something she had

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Speaker 1: to say this week in open testimony in the Kentucky

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Speaker 1: Legislative Body Chamber here in number eighty three, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be honest.

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Speaker 25: I don't feel good about being white every day for

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Speaker 25: a lot of reasons. Because it's a point of privilege

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Speaker 25: that I get to move through the world in a

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Speaker 25: way that so many of my other colleagues and friends

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Speaker 25: and family members of the community don't get the privilege

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Speaker 25: to do. Just a female, but just a woman, just.

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Speaker 8: A white woman.

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Speaker 25: If I was a white man, I would be functioning

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Speaker 25: from a point of an even greater privilege. I think

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Speaker 25: we're missing an opportunity when kids, When kids have a

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Speaker 25: moment to reflect about how the color of their skin

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Speaker 25: does and does not allow them to move through the world,

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Speaker 25: it's running to them and trying to stifle that and

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Speaker 25: trying to say you shouldn't feel bad, so want to

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Speaker 25: We don't want to ever expose you to something that

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Speaker 25: is going to make you have to pause and have

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Speaker 25: maybe some internal feelings. It's a missed opportunity for some

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Speaker 25: really good dialogue.

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Speaker 1: This is the Democrat Party. That is a suburban white

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Speaker 1: lady who has been beating down whites, particularly white young men,

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Speaker 1: for about a generation. My boys who are nineteen and

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Speaker 1: twenty years old have been hearing that woman in their

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Speaker 1: ear for most of their lives. And this is why

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Speaker 1: young men are so vulnerable to some online grievance peddling,

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Speaker 1: because they've had it with ladies like that. That woman

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Speaker 1: struck a nerve and has become a viral sensation because

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Speaker 1: it revealed the ideology consuming the Democrat Party from within.

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Speaker 1: It's not a vulnerability she's expressing at all, even though

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Speaker 1: that's how she's trying to mask it. That was a

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Speaker 1: diagnosis in that single moment and that clip. You just

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Speaker 1: heard this woman, the Sarah Stalker woman, the Kentucky representative.

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Speaker 1: She exposed the rot that is hollowing out the modern

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party, a total loss of faith in the American Covenant,

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Speaker 1: the radical world changing belief that a free society rises

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Speaker 1: or falls on individual character, not inherited categories, on merit,

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Speaker 1: not melanin America was built on the exact opposite Creed.

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Speaker 1: Her party now preaches free markets that reward competence, not

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Speaker 1: your complexion, religious liberty that measures souls not skin. We

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Speaker 1: have a bill of rights that shields the lone citizen

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Speaker 1: from the tyranny of the mob. Opportunity that asks only

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Speaker 1: one question, what can you do? Not where did you

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Speaker 1: It's the only proven antidote to poverty and tribalism and tyranny.

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Speaker 1: But today's Democrats, and I'm sorry to say some that

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Speaker 1: claim to have been conservative or whatever they call themselves,

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Speaker 1: now they've replaced all that with something dark, really dark

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Speaker 1: racial quotas, inherited guilt, coerced speech, and engineered outcomes. And

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Speaker 1: they brand it all as equity. But really all it

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Speaker 1: is is authoritarianism painted in a soft cell. Because once

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Speaker 1: you demand equal results by race, you've got to control

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Speaker 1: everything that produces results, from speech to thought, to hiring

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Speaker 1: to admissions to opportunity itself. You have to start punishing

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Speaker 1: excellence and script destiny. So when this woman, this Sarah Stalker,

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Speaker 1: this Kentucky representative, this Democrat, weeps over her own whiteness,

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Speaker 1: she isn't confessing personal shame. She's mourning something else, the

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Speaker 1: death of the old American promise inside her own party,

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Speaker 1: them into permanent casts. And here's where the architects of

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Speaker 1: identity politics never really understand what they're doing. They're shaming

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Speaker 1: young men for their skin color, and it doesn't humble them,

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01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 1: hardens them. It tells a generation they're guilty by design,

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01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: and sooner or later they stop looking for reconciliation, and

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01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: you know what, they start craving retaliation. And that's how

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01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: you feed America's revelation addiction that I've been telling you

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01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: about a culture hooked on crisis, primed for apocalypse, desperate

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Speaker 1: for meaning because the dignity that comes from merit has

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01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: been completely stripped away by people like this Sarah Stalker.

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Speaker 1: And in the end, it's obvious who the real authoritarians are,

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01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: the people obsessed with your immutable traits, not your immutable rights.

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Speaker 1: Character and merit aren't slogans. They're the immune system of

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Speaker 1: a free nation. And if you replace that with racial

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01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: scorecards and whatnot, liberty isn't just weakened. It slips into

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:02,919
Speaker 1: remission entirely. This woman isn't the problem, She's the symptom.

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01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: And the cure is the same now as it was

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01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years ago as it was in

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three. MLK Judge by the content of character,

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01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 1: not color of skin. Most Americans know this deep down.

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: Democrats know it, and that's why they fight and fight

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Speaker 1: it so violently. Ornamentute, Chris, Let's go to Chuck in

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Speaker 1: Fort Worth, Texas on open line Friday. Hey Chuck, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you called. Good morning. Well come in, good morning, sir.

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Speaker 16: I I would like to see our congressional representatives create

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Speaker 16: an affordability index. I just had Rock run and affordability

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Speaker 16: index for fort Worth, Texas. My prompt was, create an

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Speaker 16: affordability index for the district of fort Worth, Texas. Focus

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 16: on issues of affordability the Democrats, sorry, Democrats are harping

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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 16: on and it gave it gave a good evaluation, and

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Speaker 16: so overall affordability in Fort Worth is ninety four point three.

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Speaker 16: I had it create a graphic like a dashboard. Now,

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Speaker 16: imagine if every Republican congressional representative created an affordability index

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01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 16: for their district, put it on their website like a dashboard,

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01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 16: and if you clicked on it, it would hover. It would

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01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 16: give you hover links for affordability of housing, childcare, food,

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01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 16: and and then I had it compare it with the

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01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 16: Biden administration. So overall, when President Trump is out on

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01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 16: the on the trail, he could he could create an

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01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 16: affordability affordability index for either the state or the city

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 16: that he is in. Focusing on the reality, because affordability

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01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 16: is being you used as a wet blanket for the

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01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 16: whole nation, when in reality, it's not the same in

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01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 16: every area. All politics are local, All affordability or issues

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01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:12,839
Speaker 16: are local.

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Speaker 1: That's really insightful and out of curiosity. When you saw

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01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: this data, did it surprise you or did you kind

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01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: of already feel it and sense it?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 16: No, you know, for worth, we pretty much haven't felt much.

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Speaker 16: You know, I'm an r N, so you know.

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Speaker 1: That's so when you hear I'm sorry to interrupt you,

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Speaker 1: but just for time, I'm just asking when you hear

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01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,440
Speaker 1: people talking about it, it's not affordable out there, affordability, affordability,

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01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't clicking with you. You didn't feel

1557
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: squeezed like you're hearing other people say they feel squeezed.

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Speaker 16: No, because I'm in Texas for one thing. But I

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01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 16: don't discount I absolutely don't discount the college students who

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01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 16: have got massive loans. I don't discount the difficulty that

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 16: young people are facing. I think you know, and that

1562
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 16: gentleman who had the land idea go back to the

1563
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 16: story of Joseph and how God gave Joseph insight for

1564
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 16: Pharaoh to prepare for the seven years of famine. And

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01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 16: that's why God has his children. You know, when we

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01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 16: receive Christ, he doesn't take us to heaven. He dwells

1567
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 16: us and then he gives us insight, wisdom and understanding

1568
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 16: to offer solutions to the world, whether they receive it

1569
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 16: or not. Because typically there's an agenda. But AI. Congress

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01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 16: should have AI reviewing every every bill. Congress should have

1571
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 16: every AI review in every congressional record back to when

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01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 16: they were first, you know, and identify trends.

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Speaker 1: There is so so you what you've done. It was

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01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: so beautifully said. You've said, I don't know if you

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01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: ever considered running for office, but you should because you've

1576
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: beautifully woven scripture into exactly what all of us need

1577
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: to do, problem solving and having the wisdom to offer

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01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 1: solutions and problem solved. And you used AI in a

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01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: positive way to make that case. Boy, that's what we

1580
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: need problem solvers like you. Thank you man. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that when you talk

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Speaker 1: about people coming to faith, this has been one of

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01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: those years, one of those extraordinary moments in history. After

1584
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 1: Charlie and the loss of Charlie Kirk, we've heard about

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: people streaming back to church, sort of a revival. We

1586
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: heard about maybe a few years ago, that last year,

1587
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: two years ago, the Jesus Revolution of the seventies. Is

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01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: there a revival going on in the middle of all

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01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: of that. One of these guys that did a tremendous

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01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: amount for people who maybe were searching, or were agnostic

1591
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: or maybe an atheist in his case, didn't believe and

1592
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 1: came around to be believers after some investigative work, the

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01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: classic book known as The Case for Christ. At Least

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01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: Grobble the author, and he's back with a new project

1595
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Speaker 1: on miracles that you can watch in movie theaters. It's

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Speaker 1: at the Case for Miracles movie dot com, Thecase formiraclesmovie

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01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: dot com. You can get your tickets and Least Grobal

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01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: joints us today. That movie opens on Monday in select

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Speaker 1: theaters around the country. And Lee, good to see us, sir.

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Speaker 7: Well, great to see you. Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: I think, and I mean when I say your book,

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01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: I've heard more about it and more Bible studies over

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01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: the years. People that are new to the faith have

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01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: read the Case for Christ and come around to thinking,

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01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: I need to check this out. Did you set out

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01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: to do that with your book initially this project or

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01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: has it kind of taken on a life of its

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Speaker 1: own over the years.

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Speaker 26: Well, the way I describe it being from Chicago is

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01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 26: like Wrigley Field, you know, and Wrigley Field, often the

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Speaker 26: player would hit a ball and be caught by the

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Speaker 26: center fielder. But sometimes you don't hit it any harder

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01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 26: and the wind of Chicago takes it out for a

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01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 26: home runder, a grand slam.

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Speaker 7: That's what God did with this book. I hit the ball.

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Speaker 26: I wrote the book, but God has taken it beyond

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Speaker 26: anything I ever put into it, and has taken it

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Speaker 26: to just so many people around the world who've come

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Speaker 26: to faith. And I get emails almost virtually every day

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Speaker 26: from some amazing stories, including evil and evil who came

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01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 26: to faith through the book. Just so so many people

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Speaker 26: around the world. I say, I look at that, and

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01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 26: I say I didn't do that. I honestly just feel

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01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 26: I just wrote the book, but for whatever reason, God

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01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 26: has chosen by his spirit to do things with it

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01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 26: that I never could have done on my own.

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Speaker 1: I think pastors I hear this from time to time.

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01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: My pastor, as a matter of fact, we talk about

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Speaker 1: you know, I do a mostly secular political and news show.

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01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: I talk about my faith. I'm not afraid to. I

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01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: love to, as a matter of fact. That's why I'm

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Speaker 1: grateful to have this conversation. But he often says, you know,

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Speaker 1: fat heads like you with a microphone they'll listen to

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Speaker 1: more regularly than me, and a pulpit that is non believers.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that kind of an interesting point. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've heard that over the years, that here you

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01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: are a journalist who's really not a theologian necessarily by training,

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Speaker 1: and you're getting more eyes and ears than most pastors

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01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: would die to have.

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Speaker 7: That's funny, that's true.

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Speaker 26: But you know, my approach to that book and other

1642
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 26: books that I've done, including The Case for Miracles, is

1643
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 26: that I'm not the world's leading expert on these key things.

1644
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 26: But I'm trained in journalism and law, so I'm an investigator.

1645
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 26: So I go out, I find the world's leading experts,

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01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 26: and I interview them. I questioned them with the questions

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01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 26: I had when I was an atheist, or trying to

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01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 26: get them to explain things in a way that I

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01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 26: can understand it. So I figure, if I get it,

1650
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 26: anybody can get it. And I interview skeptics as well.

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Speaker 26: In fact, my book, The Case for Miracles starts three

1652
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 26: chapters with an interview with the number one skeptic in America,

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01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 26: Michael Schrmer, editor of Skeptic Magazine, And I said, have

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Speaker 26: your say, why don't you believe in the miraculous? And

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01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 26: he does, and then the rest of the book responds

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01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:50,879
Speaker 26: to the objections that he raises.

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Speaker 1: The Case for miraclesmovie dot Com is where you can

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01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 1: get your tickets and starting Monday and through the eighteenth,

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01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: so it's fifteenth through the eighteenth, actually be in theaters.

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01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: And so when you go to the Case frommiraclesmovie dot com,

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01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: up will come a theater close to you where you

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01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: can get tickets and go see it. And I hope

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Speaker 1: that you do. When you hear from people who say

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it, what is the first thing you

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01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: say in response? Today? How do you answer that when

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01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: people come to you and say I just don't I

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Speaker 1: don't believe it.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, I say, you know what, I didn't either, But

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Speaker 26: I took two years of my life as an investigative

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01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 26: journalist to investigate what is the historical data for the

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Speaker 26: truth of Christianity and the data that God is still

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Speaker 26: in the miracle business today. And I think if four

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Speaker 26: things are true, we can confidently say a miracle has

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Speaker 26: taken place. Number one if we have solid medical documentation.

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Speaker 26: Number two, if we have multiple incredible eyewitnesses who have

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Speaker 26: no motive to deceive. Number three, if there is no

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01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 26: natural explanation that makes sense. And number four if it

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01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 26: takes place in the context of prayer. And we have

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Speaker 26: cases like that that we deal with in my book,

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Speaker 26: we deal with in the movie v cases published, for instance,

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Speaker 26: in peer reviewed medical journals, cases where multiple medical researchers

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Speaker 26: have documented them.

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Speaker 7: These are not just cases that you hear on the internet.

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Speaker 26: You wonder always that AI or is that something somebody

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01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 26: made up. We're dealing with documented cases and they are

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Speaker 26: absolutely mind blowing.

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Speaker 20: Lead.

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Speaker 1: That criteria you just listed, that's intriguing because it makes

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Speaker 1: me think, and I'm sure you've made them observation, that

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Speaker 1: same criteria you could apply to scripture right, and the

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Speaker 1: people of Scripture who corroborated their stories, that same line

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01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: of questioning you could apply to them. And I assume

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01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: you have and did as you were studying Scripture and

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01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: trying to come to your own belief system on Christianity.

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 26: I mean when I did my investigation as an atheist

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01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 26: after my wife had become a Christian, I was trying

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01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 26: to liberate her from this cult that she got involved in.

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Speaker 26: So I figured, all I have to do is disprove

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Speaker 26: the resurrection of Jesus. And I spent two years doing

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01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 26: that very thing, looking at the historical data, analyzing it,

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01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 26: checking with scholars and scholarly articles published in scholarly journals,

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01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 26: and trying to determine what really took place, what is

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01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 26: the evidence? And I think the evidence, for instance, for

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01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 26: the resurrection of Jesus, which is an incredible miracle that's

1706
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 26: the cornerstone of Christianity, is so incredibly strong. In fact,

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01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 26: the greatest defense attorney in the world, Sir lionel Lucku

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01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 26: nighted twice by Queen Elizabeth and I remember of the

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Speaker 26: Supreme Court of his Land, who was a skeptic who

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01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 26: investigated it, said that the evidence is in his in

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01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 26: his assessment, irrefutable that Jesus not only claimed to be

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Speaker 26: the son of God to be backed it up by returning.

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Speaker 7: From the dead.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about miracles of the scripture versus

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Speaker 1: miracles people may have experienced today. How do they compare?

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Speaker 1: How do you talk about that? Because I think some

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Speaker 1: people say, well, that's mysticism, you know, or their little

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Speaker 1: skeptic How are they different or how are they similar?

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Speaker 1: In your view?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, I think it's an interesting question because I think

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Speaker 26: that modern miracles, which we have the ability to investigate

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Speaker 26: the medical evidence and so forth and scientific that we

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Speaker 26: can put these under the microscope and try to determine

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Speaker 26: are they credible. When we determined that there are credible

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Speaker 26: miracles today, that to me gives extra credibility to the

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Speaker 26: miracles reported, for instance, in the Gospels, because we weren't

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Speaker 26: there at the time. We've got reports of what took place,

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Speaker 26: that Jesus healed the blind and raise the dead and

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Speaker 26: so forth. But if we have evidence today that these

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Speaker 26: same kind of miracles are taking place and we can

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Speaker 26: document those, that gives us increased confidence that the Gospels

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Speaker 26: are telling us the truth about the miracles in the

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Speaker 26: first century.

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Speaker 1: Often it's medical. I know it's not exclusively medical, least stroble,

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Speaker 1: but often it's medical, and you hear doctors. You will

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Speaker 1: hear reports from people that say there is no earthly

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Speaker 1: reason I should be alive, and doctors have confirmed it them.

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Speaker 1: Yet here I am. Is that the kind of thing

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Speaker 1: you're talking about?

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Speaker 26: Some cases like that, Yeah, absolutely, I'll give you a

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Speaker 26: quick one. A woman who was blind for a dozen

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Speaker 26: years with juvenile macular degeneration and incurable condition, went to

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Speaker 26: a school for the blind, learned how to read braille,

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Speaker 26: married a Baptist pastor, and one night again to go

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01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 26: to bed, he puts his hand on his shoulder, begins

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01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 26: to cry and pray, and he says, Lord, I know

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Speaker 26: you can heal my wife. I know you can do it,

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Speaker 26: and I pray that you do it tonight. And with

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Speaker 26: that she opened her eyes and saw her husband for

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Speaker 26: the first time. She said, after years of darkness, I

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Speaker 26: could see perfectly.

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Speaker 1: I could see.

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Speaker 7: It's a miracle.

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Speaker 26: And sure enough her eyesight remained the rest of her life.

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Speaker 26: She lived another fifty years. And what do you do

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Speaker 26: with that?

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Speaker 1: What do you do?

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Speaker 26: That's the only case in medical literature of anybody ever

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Speaker 26: being healed, especially spontaneously of juvenilemancular degeneration, and yet she's

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Speaker 26: healed just as a prayer is offered to God for

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Speaker 26: her healing. You know, I'm trying to be logical here.

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Speaker 26: I think the only way you can deny that is

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Speaker 26: if you rule out the possibility of the miracles at

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Speaker 26: the outset and say miracles are impossible. Now show me

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Speaker 26: your evidence. I don't think that's a reasonable way to

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Speaker 26: do an investigation. I think the reasonable way is show

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Speaker 26: me your evidence, and I will go to whatever conclusion

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Speaker 26: it logically supports.

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Speaker 1: I've often heard it said, is it true, Lee that

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01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: it is its own religion? Atheists are often very, very

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Speaker 1: smug and proud of the fact that they don't believe

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Speaker 1: in that cult stuff. But it's its own faith system,

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Speaker 1: isn't it to not believe it and work so hard

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Speaker 1: to defy it? That's right.

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Speaker 26: A faith is a step we take in the direction

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Speaker 26: of the evidence. So, in other words, a lot of

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Speaker 26: atheists say Christianity is believing something that you know in

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Speaker 26: your heart it can't be true.

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Speaker 7: That's not faith.

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Speaker 26: They're about twenty arrows of evidence, a point in the

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01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 26: direction of Christianity being true, we have to take a

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Speaker 26: step of faith. It's a step in the same direction.

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Speaker 26: The evidence is pointing. That's logical, that's rational. We do

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Speaker 26: that every day of our lives. Atheists have to take

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01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 26: that same step. They have to rely on their own

1786
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 26: conclusions and say, based on my intellect, based on how

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01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 26: I understand things, there is no God, and so I'm

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01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 26: going to put my faith my trust in that, and

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01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 26: live a life accordingly. I did that for years. It

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01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 26: took me down very dark paths. But I say to anybody,

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01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 26: do what I did. Investigate the evidence. Check it out

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01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 26: in my book The Case for CHRISTI is helpful, great.

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01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 26: There are other great books out there. My good friend

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Speaker 26: Frank Trurik wrote one that said I love the title.

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Speaker 26: It says, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

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Speaker 1: Lee Strobel, I love your work. I love what you've

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Speaker 1: done for so many millions, I suppose by now Christians.

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Speaker 1: The Case for miraclesmovie dot com is the website where

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Speaker 1: you can go get tickets for this film which is

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Speaker 1: coming out on Monday in select theaters Monday through the eighteenth.

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Speaker 1: All right, so that's most of the week next week.

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Speaker 1: Get you tickets, thecasefour miraclesmovie dot com and Lee. You're

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Speaker 1: welcome back here anytime. I hope you can come back.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to you again anytime. Chris.

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Speaker 26: Love you and what you do, so as we text

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01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 26: us say, I appreciate you AI.

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Speaker 1: It's very interesting people think that guys like Ronda Santis

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Speaker 1: are still very much angling for a run. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that would be wise of Rond de Santis to

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01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: try to run in twenty eight versus what we can

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Speaker 1: presume is jd Vance Rubio ticket.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, Chris, I'll be honest. I wish he would run,

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01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 2: but it's not. It's not gonna happen. He's he's politically

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01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 2: destroyed after this, you think, yeah, I do very much, So.

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Speaker 1: Send your hate mail to Eddie Kayezo.

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Speaker 2: Well, just like with Kamala, the billion one point five

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Speaker 2: billion wasted, I mean, they wasted fifty million dollars on

1818
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 2: his run unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: So the reason I bring this up is President Trump

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01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: continues to position himself on AI one way, and Rond

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01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: de Santis continues to position himself another way. And it

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01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: is it is AI is the issue of our time.

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01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I think Ron de Santis has offered something called an

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01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 1: AI Bill of Rights. He's proposed regulations on AI and

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01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: its meeting resistance from the White House. In a Friday

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01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 1: Last Friday news release, Desantas said, our AI proposal will

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01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 1: establish an AI Bill of Rights to define and safeguard

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01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 1: Floridian's rights, including data privacy, parental controls, consumer protections, and

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Speaker 1: restrictions on AI use of an individual's name, image likeness

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01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: without consent. The White House, on the other hand, and

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01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: President Trump take this position, give me number seventy four

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01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: if you would please pulling, as you said, in.

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Speaker 27: Keeping with your commitment to grow the American economy and

1834
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 27: create potentially millions of new American jobs and maintain America's

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01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 27: technological and military superiority in the years ahead. This is

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Speaker 27: an executive order that orders aspects of your administration to

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01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 27: take decisive action to ensure that AI can operate within

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01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 27: a single national framework in this country, as opposed to

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01:38:55,840 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 27: being subject to state level regulation that could potentially cripple

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01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 27: the industry. David Sachs, your AI and Crypto ZAR, has

1841
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 27: been one of the key players and key authors behind

1842
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,799
Speaker 27: the CEO. He can give you more of the granular detail,

1843
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 27: but the big picture is that we're taking steps to

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Speaker 27: ensure that AI operates under a single national standard so

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01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 27: that we can reap the benefits that will come from

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01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,560
Speaker 27: it in terms of economic growth, job development, national security,

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Speaker 27: and technological edge.

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Speaker 23: And it's really the biggest industry that anybody's seen. I mean,

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Speaker 23: it's taking off. And again I believe they'll only be

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Speaker 23: one country that really benefits and antid bey the United States,

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Speaker 23: and it will be if we do this, if we unified.

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Speaker 23: We have to be unified. China is unified because they

1853
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 23: have one vote. That's President. She he says, do it,

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Speaker 23: and that's the end of that. You know, we have

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01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 23: a different system, but we have a system that's good.

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Speaker 23: But we only have a system that's good if it's smart.

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Speaker 23: David Sacks, can you say a few words bitch.

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Speaker 17: Yes, sir?

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Speaker 1: With that fascinating. This is why I ask President Trump's

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01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: position on something this significant and important is Look, China

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01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 1: is unified on how they're dealing with AI. I can't

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01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: have fifty different governors monkeying around with AI. If we're

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01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: going to win this race. I can't have fifty different

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01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 1: states trying to control what we're trying to do with AI.

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Speaker 2: You say, I say, it's a good call. I'm not

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Speaker 2: in disagreement with that, But I'm also not in disagreement

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Speaker 2: with Rohnda Santas and the other governor's positions too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's going to be a It's a big one.

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Speaker 1: The marriage is one of those issues that comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: Abortion is another. I think AI is very much on.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing in the Constitution about AI or abortion or

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01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 1: marriage right, and so states weighing in on it. I

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Speaker 1: of course, now you're talking about commerce with AI, and

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Speaker 1: that's maybe a little bit different. But and then you've

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Speaker 1: got to power these also. Yeah, jingle bells is racist,

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Speaker 1: by the way, folks, Just so you know, Joy Reid

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Speaker 1: said to her one point three million Instagram followers. A

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Speaker 1: man in a Christmas sweater and Santa hat stands on

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Speaker 1: the streets of Medford, Massachusetts, near a plaque marking the

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Speaker 1: site where it is believed to have been pinned the

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Speaker 1: song jingle Bells in eighteen fifty. He takes his hat

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Speaker 1: off disapprovingly scowls at the plaque. The video caption reading

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01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 1: this is where a racist Confederate soldier wrote jingle Bells

1884
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: to make fun of black people and has its origins

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Speaker 1: and bigoted minstrel shows that were popular at the time.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that I did not jingle bells is bigoted?

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Speaker 1: It was written by a Civil War guy something about

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Speaker 1: minstrel shows. So just consider that it's a microaggression when

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Speaker 1: you're out there singing jingle so stupid. These are the

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Speaker 1: things these people bother themselves with. Here's one thing I

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Speaker 1: hope it will not be a bother as we close

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Speaker 1: out this weekend. If you can help us, we are

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