1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: to the Aaron Mullins Show. It's great to have your company. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: What is it like to be in the Oval Office 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: looking at President Trump advocating for a course of action 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: you believe in, when there's two other very important people 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: on the other side advocating for the complete opposite. What 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: is the process We're about to find out. My guest today, 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: Ambassador David Friedman, has been there and it gives us 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: a blow by blow account. It is fascinating. You cannot 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: miss it. Before we get to Ambassador Friedman, let's take 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: a look at what is happening around the world. And 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: forty eight US fighter jets on their way to the 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Middle East. That's big. There's already a huge presence there. 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: And as my guests a couple of weeks ago, Secretary 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Rob Wilke said, you don't have that amount of military 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: mice in a region and not pull the trigger. So 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: what is it saying if you're increasing that military might 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: day by day? Something's brewing. Now the Ayatola has spoken. 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: It was actually hilarious, as funny as an evil person 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: can be. Felt like an episode of the Simpsons or 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: South Park. He was trying to be funny, and of 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: course everyone laughed and cheered, because you die if you don't. 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: It's punishable by death if you don't find him funny. 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: This is what he said, and this is reliant upon 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: a translation, but something to the effect of America thinks 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: it's got the most biggest and impressive military, but sometimes 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: the strongest in the world might choke so hard it 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: can't swallow. And of course all of his subjects, ha ha, 29 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: what does he know about that choking and swallowing. It's 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: a bizarre reference, isn't it. Maybe it's more revealing than 31 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: we might have initially thought. He then went on to 32 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: threaten to sink the US aircraft carriers and also made 33 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: the point that the President said himself, from President Trump, 34 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm referring to that in forty seven years, the US 35 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: hasn't been able to end the Islamic regime, and that 36 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't think he'll still be able to end it. 37 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: And then everyone kind of cheered and laughed like he 38 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: was really clever. 39 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Have a look about Israel. They keep saying, we've sent 40 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: a fleet towards Irani. 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 3: All right, thankful. 42 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: A fleet is certainly a dangerous thing. But more dangerous 43 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: than a fleet is the weapon that can send it 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: to the bottom of the sea. The President of the 45 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: United States, in one of his recent speeches well said 46 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: that for forty seven years, America has not been able 47 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: to eliminate the Islamic Republic. He complained to his own people, 48 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: forty seven years that America has not been able to 49 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: eliminate the Islamic Republic. This is a good admission, I say, 50 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: you won't be able to do it either. 51 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Again, it's quite bizarre. I mean, he's mocking the Americans, 52 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: which is fine. Donald Trump actually shows them an element 53 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: of respect when he speaks publicly about the regime and 54 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: about the Ayatola, more than I think they deserve, in fact, 55 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: and I think they deserve zero point zero one of 56 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: the bees beep. But he does actually show them a 57 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: fair bit of respect publicly. He'll then go and bomb 58 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: their nuclear program. But you know, that's another thing. So 59 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I can under why this regime is not particularly fond 60 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: of the Americans. But what it does go to show 61 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: is that there is no chance of doing any kind 62 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: of deal that is legitimate or fruitful or will give 63 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: anyone anywhere any piece these are not normal people. These 64 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: are not rational people looking at the Savannah Guthrie case 65 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: and it's still unsolved. I've just interview an expert. We'll 66 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: put that interview out separately soon. He's incredible, Morgan, right, 67 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: he reconstructs crime scenes and goes through bit by bit. 68 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: What he has to say is mind blowing. So make 69 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: sure you check that out. That's coming out very shortly. 70 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: And finally, before we get to Ambassador Friedman, Lebron, James 71 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: was asked about Denny the player from Israel and the 72 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: All Stars who was amazing, and about Israel itself, and 73 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: of course we all knew what was going to happen, 74 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: But have a look at the question, have a look 75 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: at the answer, and then I'll come back with the 76 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: reaction weas Lee b from John FOURTN in Israel for 77 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: all the Israeli fans, what message would you like to 78 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: send for Israel? And also what do you think about 79 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: Denny aftera uh, well. 80 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: I've been quoted on Danny already and they asked me 81 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: that I thought what I thought about this season? I said, 82 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: I believe he was an All Star and uh, I 83 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: mean he is an All Star. He's playing you know, exceptional, 84 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: you know basketball, So that's that. And then I mean, 85 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: if if I have fans over there, I've never been there. 86 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: If I have fans over there, then you know, I 87 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: hope you have been following my career. I hope I 88 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 4: inspired people over there to not only want to be 89 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: great in sports but all once just be better in 90 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: general in life. So hopefully someday I can make it 91 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: over there. Like I said, I've never been over there, 92 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: but I've heard nothing of great things, and I appreciate, uh, 93 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: the question, I appreciate it. 94 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay. So the reaction to that, of course, 95 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: he got absolutely annihilated. Uh. Lebron James faces backlash after 96 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: praising Denny and Israel. Mehdi Hassan, Oh shock me rips 97 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: Lebron Jay over Israel comments at NBA also games. Lebron 98 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: James ignites outrage for controversial Israel comments at All SAR Weekend. 99 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: An open letter to Lebron James on Israel, Gazarin nothing 100 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: but great things, and it goes on and on and on. 101 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: This is what they try and do, by the way, 102 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: this is their modus operande. If you say anything anything 103 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: that's not completely false, hating and negative about Israel. They 104 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: come for you, and this is how they keep the 105 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: majority silent. And you can see when Lebron was asked, 106 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: you could see that he was kind of in his 107 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: head going through a process is it worth it? What 108 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: am I gonna ard it? And I get it. I 109 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: get it because this is what happens. And good on 110 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: him for saying what he did, which wasn't anything insanely 111 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: good by the way, just said I've heard great things. 112 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't been, but I've heard great things 113 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: like so. But they all come down hard now. So 114 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: anyone else who's ever put in that position, who's in 115 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: the public eye, who's got some influence, who's a celebrity, 116 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: thinks about this and goes, it's just not worth it. 117 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: It's just not worth it. The mob will come for me. 118 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: It's not worth it. And this is how they win. 119 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: This is how they win. They bully people into silence 120 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: and submission. You know what would be great, Just move on. 121 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: That's his take. Let him have it. Advocate strongly for yours, 122 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: go for God, even though it's ridiculous and it's based 123 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: on lies. But this attacking of someone and publicly trying 124 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: to shame them is all about control. Ignore it. What 125 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Lebron did was amazing, just a very normal response. He 126 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: didn't capitulate. He just said, yeah, heard great. Things haven't 127 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: been there, but don't let the mob win, because this 128 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: is what they do. And someone who would never let 129 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: the mob win. Ambassador David Friedman, it was the ambassador 130 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: United States ambassador to Israel for four or five years, 131 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: was there during the Abraham Accords. And also what he 132 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: says was his greatest moment the moving of the American 133 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: Embassy to Jerusalem. And that's where we get an inside 134 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: look at what it's like to stand in front of 135 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: President Trump and have to put forward a case for 136 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: something that matters against people who feel the complete opposite. 137 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: It is a fascinating insight. He also goes into Tucker Carlson, 138 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Candice Owens, Marjorie Taylor Green talks about what he thinks 139 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: will happen in the Middle East, is peace possible. It's 140 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: a really interesting conversation and I hope you enjoy. Ambassador. 141 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so so much for joining me here on 142 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: the Eron Mullinschow. It's such an honor to have you. 143 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: It's my pleasure. Erin It's great to see. 144 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: You, you know almost better than anyone, what it's like 145 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: to deal with Israel in the Middle East and the 146 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: US administration, particularly Donald Trump. What are your thoughts, initial 147 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: thoughts watching what's going on recently particularly Let's start with 148 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: the situation in Iran. 149 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 5: Well, you know, you have a on the one hand, 150 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 5: you have a president who has committed to those who 151 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: voted for him that he wouldn't and get the country 152 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: into any new wars, and and and and I knowing him, well, 153 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 5: I think I think what he meant were really nothing 154 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 5: that would be considered you know, offensive or adventurous or 155 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 5: something like that. I don't think he was talking about 156 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 5: the ability of the United States to defend itself. But 157 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: that's you know, that's there. 158 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: There. 159 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 5: There are those in the in the in the Party, 160 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: in the American population generally, who just don't want to 161 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 5: see American troops, American assets used anywhere. And then you 162 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 5: have the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world 163 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: in Iran on the other side, which has made it 164 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 5: very clear that it not only wants to destroy Israel, 165 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 5: but to destroy the United States. It is building up 166 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 5: a stockpile of very powerful ballistic missiles, and I should 167 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: say that there most of them are intercontinental ballistic missiles, right, 168 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 5: and people got to focus on the icy part of 169 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 5: the ICBM, right because intercontinental has nothing to do with Israel. 170 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: You don't need an ICBM to attack Israel, need an 171 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 5: ICBM to reach the United States. So you know, so 172 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: there are there are political wins that he's got to 173 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 5: deal with. But at the end of the day, I 174 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 5: know that he is committed not only to make sure 175 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 5: that Iran doesn't threaten in the United States or Israel, 176 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 5: but also to take advantage of an opportunity that exists 177 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 5: today that may not exist in a couple of years, 178 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: which is that Iran is incredibly weak. You know, they 179 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: they were weakened enormously by the Twelve Day War. That 180 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 5: was this spectacular collaboration between Israel and the United States 181 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: where you know, Israel freed up the airspace in the 182 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 5: United States, threaded a needle with a B two barmer, 183 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 5: destroyed the for the nuclear reactor. I mean, really, I 184 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 5: think one of the best collaborative efforts of any two 185 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 5: countries in the history of warfare. So you have that, 186 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 5: and we know that you know, America is in a 187 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 5: position right now to really put a crushing glove on Iran. 188 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: But they're also. 189 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: There also are the politics venturing a war. You know, 190 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 5: it's easy to get into a war and it's not 191 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 5: easy to get out of war. So all those things 192 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 5: that I think are circulating, and the President, I think 193 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 5: he will thread this needle, I think the right way. 194 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: I don't know how. 195 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 5: I think it's evolving, but I think hopefully we'll see 196 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 5: if there is something that could be done that's non kinetic, 197 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 5: and if not, America still has the power to impose 198 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 5: its will if it needs to. 199 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: You know better than anyone again that there are ways 200 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: to conduct war that don't drag an entire nation in 201 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: in the twelve day War that you just referenced is 202 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: a great example of that. What happened in Venezuela another 203 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: great example of not necessarily war, but the US using 204 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: its military might to protect itself. And there's a difference 205 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: between just being bored and thinking let's start some chaos 206 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: and doing something that will inevitably, even if people can't 207 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: see it short term, be in the best interest of America. 208 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: This regime has bounties out on Donald Trump's head. They 209 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: want him dead. Their own speakers of House in Parliament 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: talk about funeral and how they will celebrate this. How 211 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: do you do a deal, ambassador, with people who don't 212 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: see the world like we do, who are not rational, 213 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: who are untrustworthy, who see death and destruction as badges 214 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: of honor. 215 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: Well, I think you answered your own question. 216 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's almost impossible. You do it only 217 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: from a position where you're strong and they're afraid. I mean, 218 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 5: that's the only way you can do that. And you know, 219 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: President Trump has had this incredibly creative winning streak when 220 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 5: it comes to warfare, you know, both on the first 221 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: in the first term, in the second, whether it was 222 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 5: killing Cosum Sulimani which set Aridians back tremendously, killing Albugnatti, 223 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: you know who was running Isis as you pointed out, 224 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: you know, pulling you know, Nicholas Maduro out of a 225 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 5: out of a fortress, you know, or as we talked about, 226 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 5: you know, threading the needle and embalming around nuclear reactors 227 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: with without any risk to America in the American airmen. 228 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: So he's been you know, he has made not just 229 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 5: you know, good choices, but spectacularly good choices. When it 230 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 5: comes to warfare, and I think, I think I'll do 231 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 5: it again. This is this is complicated because the goals 232 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 5: are the goals are complicated. I mean, the goals are 233 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,239 Speaker 5: not just to make sure that Iran remains the nuclearized. 234 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 5: It's destroying a large stockpile of their ballistic missiles. It 235 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 5: is finding a way if there is a way to 236 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 5: help facilitate regime change, because the poor people are the 237 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 5: Iranian people are not enemies of the United States. I 238 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: mean they're they're they're really fighting for their freedom, and 239 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 5: they have a long history of supporting America. They're well 240 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 5: educated people, professional people, business. I mean, these are people 241 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 5: that you know, are just suffering from this this horrible 242 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 5: autocratic regime that if you get rid of the regime, 243 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 5: Iron could actually be a great ally of the United States. 244 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: So a lot of goals here. You want to achieve 245 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 5: as many as he can. You want to you want 246 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: to do more good than harm, right, which is you 247 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 5: know sometimes in war. I mean, if you can just 248 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 5: do more good than harm, you know, you're you're a 249 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: big winner, you know. And so there's all those things 250 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 5: and very complicated, you know, I think we have to 251 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: respect the time he's taking to get to the right decision. 252 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: It's not beyond him to engage in discussions just to 253 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 5: kind of feel out and kind of take the measure 254 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 5: of the opposition while he's thinking through, you know, a 255 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: more kinetic process. All those things are happening. You know, 256 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: I don't know what is happening in the inside, but 257 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 5: I was there four five years ago, so I know 258 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 5: what's probably happening. And I think we should give him 259 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: the time in the space to make a good decision, 260 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 5: because given enough time in space, he will make I think, 261 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: an excellent decision. 262 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: I want to go back to what it was like 263 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: for you in those moments and looking at the moving 264 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: of the embassy as well, which you were key part of. 265 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: But before we go to that, you just mentioned the 266 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: people of Iran not being an enemy of America. And 267 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: I made the point in my show yesterday this juxtaposition 268 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: of in the Iranian parliament the Islamic regime chanting death 269 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: to America, Death to America, versus nearly three hundred thousand 270 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: people on the streets when Senator Lindsay Graham got up 271 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: in Munich to speak chanting USA USA, and I said, 272 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: to the people of America, who might say, America first, 273 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: America only, who would you rather have on your side 274 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: in charge of Iran? Given how powerful they are, They've 275 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: got the power to do good or the power to 276 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: do bad. Currently they're doing bad. I'd want the people 277 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: to be have a say in who leads them. They 278 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: are on the side of the USA. You're exactly right. 279 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, And the challenges to empower them in a way 280 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 5: you know that gets them, that restores their leadership of 281 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 5: this once great country. And it's just not so easy. 282 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: You know, there are probably a million or so around 283 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 5: you solutionary guards. They're they're not giving up power. They 284 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 5: all have advanced weaponry. These poor rebels don't. And so 285 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: you see, just you know how how brutal the around 286 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: the regime is and what they will do to retain power. 287 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 5: And you know, what do you do from the outside 288 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: to make sure that, you know, to change that balance 289 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 5: of power. 290 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: It's not easy. I mean, it's just it. 291 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 5: Excuse me, most of these revolutions have really been organic 292 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: and have worked internally, and then they don't always end 293 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: up where you want them to. 294 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: Anyway. 295 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 5: This is you know, really tough stuff to get it right. 296 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 5: And so again time time, unfortunately, is it means more brutality, 297 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 5: So it's it doesn't work well for the for the rebels. 298 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 5: But I just I just, you know, I just hope 299 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 5: and pray that we get this right. They are really 300 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 5: special people, incredibly courageous. I mean, to go out onto 301 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 5: the streets knowing that your picture is being taken. They're 302 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 5: not wearing masks, you know, they're they're going out into 303 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: the street and they're and they're and they're fighting for 304 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 5: their lives and their families and the way of lives 305 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: that we'd all like them to have. And they know 306 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 5: that there's a decent chance they're going to be shot 307 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 5: in the back. I mean, so the courage is tremendous. 308 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 5: I sure hope we find a way to empower them 309 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 5: as much as possible. 310 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: You're so right about the fact they're not wearing masks. 311 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: I haven't actually heard that observation made. And again, it's 312 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: not just the risk of what happens to them out 313 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: in the streets. These evil terrorists come and hunt them 314 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: down afterwards, they get their images, they find them. And 315 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: then I juxtapose that with cowards on university campuses, you know, 316 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: pro Palestinian Ie pro hamask fully faces covered in a 317 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: country where you actually won't be killed for doing that 318 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: in the irony is not lost in me whatsoever. And Bassard, 319 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can tell us, but 320 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: I'd love to understand the process. And President Trump would 321 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: have different people advocating for different things in this space, 322 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: which is healthy and robust. And you were part of, 323 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: say the moving of the embassy to Jerusalem. There were 324 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: people within the administration at that time who were of 325 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: the opposing view. How does it work in those scenarios? 326 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: Are you going in and trying to convince him? Are 327 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: you just telling him where you stand? Are you just 328 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: presenting him with information I'd love to get. And I 329 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: know that you can't tell us everything, but some insight 330 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: into that I think it'd be fascinating. We'll get into 331 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: all of that, but first, here's a word from our partner. 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You know. Every day you know this. 361 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: Little you know, it's one embassy out of one hundred 362 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 5: and ninety countries, you know, but every day someone's coming 363 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 5: and telling me. You promise to move the embassy. You 364 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: got to do it. Next guy comes in. You know, 365 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 5: you promise to move the embassy. You don't have to 366 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 5: keep that promise, you know. You know, Bush didn't keep 367 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 5: the promise. Clinton didn't keep the promise. You know, Obama 368 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: didn't keep the prom You don't have to keep the promise. 369 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 5: Everybody says that it's a campaign gesture. Don't do it, 370 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 5: it's not worth it, and back and forth. I mean, 371 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: I remember I went and met with a congresswoman named 372 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 5: Nita Lowie, who was really one of the authors of 373 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: the Jerusalem Embassy Act, you know, the act that was 374 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 5: passed in nineteen ninety five, you know, many years before 375 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 5: the embassy was moved, which which said it was a 376 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 5: bill passed by Congress that proved by the president, that 377 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: said that the United States will move this embassy to Jerusalem. 378 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 5: Unless the president will will waive that or something, and 379 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 5: and all the presidents just waived it. You know, this 380 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 5: this law was ignored. And she who was the author 381 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 5: of the law, when I met with her, she said 382 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 5: to me, don't move the embassy. And this is the 383 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 5: woman who spearheaded, spearheaded the movement. And I said, why not? 384 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 5: And he says, we don't need it. We don't need 385 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: the trouble. We don't need the you know where you know, 386 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: it's it's antithetical to peace. We're not gonna We're just 387 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 5: going to you know, make more trouble and make wars. 388 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 5: And we don't want to do that. So so the 389 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 5: president was hearing, you know, you know, he had promised 390 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 5: during his campaign to move the embassy, and a lot 391 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: of people were hoping that he'd keep his promise. And 392 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 5: then there are a lot of people who were telling 393 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 5: him not to. So he looks at me and he says, look, 394 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: we got I got to make a decision. I mean, 395 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 5: I'm spending way way too much time. You know, as 396 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 5: the president of that his states got bigger, got bigger 397 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 5: things to do. It they just worry about one embassy. 398 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 5: We got to we got to come to a decision, 399 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 5: and he said, I'm just having everybody. I'm having it 400 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 5: out today, he says, and you're going to come in. 401 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 5: I remember he was with General Kelly then, who was 402 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 5: the chief of Staff, and they were talking about who 403 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 5: should be in the room. And he says, look, I 404 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 5: don't want a big crowd. 405 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: David. 406 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 5: You come in and you'll be you'll you'll argue in favor. 407 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: And I know that I got you know, I got 408 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 5: Tillerson and Madis. Those are the then Secretary of State 409 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 5: and the Secretary of Defense. I know they were against it. 410 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 5: I'll have them come in and that's and let's just 411 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: have it out and and I'll make a decision. And 412 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: so we all kind of gathered that evening in the 413 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 5: situation room, and you know, he went to his Secretary 414 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: of State and his Secretary of Defense and he said 415 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 5: to them, guys, you just you let's do this point 416 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 5: by point. You tell me all the points, and after 417 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 5: each point, David, you'll respond and we'll go back and 418 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 5: forth with and I'll make a decision. And we went 419 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 5: We spent about an hour and a half going back 420 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: and forth, and you know, it was it was a 421 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 5: really robust conversation got heated sometimes, I mean mostly between 422 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 5: me and the Secretary of State. I was really concerned 423 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 5: going into the meet I have to tell you, because 424 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 5: you know from that from the time that that meeting 425 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: was scheduled, which is maybe at eleven o'clock in the morning, 426 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: to the time we got together, which is maybe six 427 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 5: o'clock at night, So I have seven hours to think 428 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: about this, and I am basically being told that I 429 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 5: am the person who will have to advocate for this 430 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 5: against you know, two people who outranked me many many 431 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 5: times over, you know, secretaries of state being ambassadors all 432 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 5: the time. I mean, it's not a fair fight, right, 433 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: So I'm just like thinking, what can I now? 434 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: Now. 435 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 5: The truth is, the advantage I had is that I 436 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 5: had seven hours to think about it. 437 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: These other guys had other things. 438 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 5: Going on during those seven so so but it was really, 439 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 5: you know, a very heated discussion, and at the end 440 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 5: of the day, you know, we went back and forth 441 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: and lots of different issues there. Their point basically was, 442 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 5: we don't have to do this. We have a good 443 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 5: relationship with Israel. We'll have a good relationship with or 444 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 5: without moving the embassy. And at the end of the day, 445 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: you know, after the President kind of looked at me 446 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: at the end he said, like, wrap it up, give 447 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: me your give me the best argument that I said, well, look, 448 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: you promised you were going to do this. 449 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: The entire world is watching you now. I mean, I 450 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: think they know we're having this discussion. 451 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 5: And and the question that everybody's asking is, is Donald Trump, 452 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 5: just like everybody else you know, makes a campaign promise, 453 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: ignores it once he's elected, or is does he keep 454 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 5: his word? And on top of that, if he doesn't 455 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 5: keep his word here, why doesn't he keep his word? 456 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: Who's he afraid of? What? Why? Why would he not 457 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: keep a promise? You know what? What? What? What? You 458 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: know what players? You know? 459 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 5: What interests are his stake that would cause him not 460 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 5: to He's afraid of Jordan, he's afraid of Hamas, he's 461 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 5: afraid of the authority, he's afraid of these countries that 462 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 5: we support that frankly don't don't exist without our support. 463 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 5: And I said him, look, you know, obviously from me, 464 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 5: I'm the ambassador to Israel, and I care very much 465 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 5: about this and it's usually deeply important for me from 466 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 5: so many perspectives, including you know, my my upbringing as 467 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 5: the son of a rabbi. I said, but but you know, 468 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 5: open up the lends a little bit, and I'll tell 469 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 5: you that what you do here, if you move the 470 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: embassy to Jerusalem, that will resonate not just in Jerusalem, 471 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 5: not just in the Jewish world, but it will resonate 472 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: in Moscow and piang Yang in North Korea, in Beijing 473 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 5: and ta around all the places that really are trying 474 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 5: to take your measure to see you know, who are you. 475 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 5: They're watching and they're gonna You're going to be able 476 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: to You're going to demonstrate, not just in word, but 477 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 5: indeed that you keep your promises and you're not afraid 478 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 5: of rog nations. 479 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: You're not afraid of rogue actors. 480 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 5: America will put its embassy where at once in the 481 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 5: capital of in the capital of Israel, Jerusalem, which it 482 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 5: deems to be the capital. America is going to do 483 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 5: what's good for America, and we don't care about these 484 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 5: reorg nations. 485 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 3: And that's a hell of a great message to be sending. 486 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: And his response was, you know, that's of course, that's right, 487 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 5: that's of course right. And as they say, the rest 488 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: is history. 489 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: How did that feel afterwards, because you had, I mean, 490 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: the weight of the world and for a lot of people, 491 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: that's how heavy this was. That's how much this meant 492 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: to a lot of people. On your shoulders. You went in, 493 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: you delivered. How did it feel walking out? And did 494 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: you know walking out? So he made the decision then 495 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: and there or did you have to wait now? 496 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: He made the decision then and there. 497 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 5: But then, you know, as happens in the world of politics, 498 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 5: all the motions for reconsideration start popping up, and Tillerson 499 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 5: went running back in and the President, you know, to 500 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 5: his credit, said don't talk to me without David, Like 501 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 5: it's not fair, Like, you know, you want to talk 502 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 5: to me behind his back, but you're not going to 503 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: do that. So they waited for me to We had 504 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 5: another you know kind of back and forth. It didn't 505 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 5: really change anything. 506 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: But then. 507 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 5: There was an interesting, you know, a quandary I had, 508 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 5: which is I could stay put in Washington because he 509 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 5: was he wasn't going to make the announcement for like 510 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 5: five or six days just because of the way his calendar. 511 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: Was working out. 512 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 5: So I could spend five or six days waiting for 513 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 5: him to make that out and stay put make sure 514 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 5: that you know, if somebody tried to sneak in, I 515 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 5: would I would be able to or but then but 516 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 5: then I would I would run the risk of being 517 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 5: in America when the announcement was made, and I was afraid. 518 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 5: I didn't think there would be any violence. I really didn't, 519 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 5: but I thought, you know, God forbid, if there's some violence, 520 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 5: you know, I want to be there. I want to 521 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 5: kind of put my money where my mouth is. I 522 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: don't want to be hiding back at America while I'm 523 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 5: involved in a decision that could cause violence in the 524 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 5: Middle Eat. So I wanted to get back. So I 525 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 5: got I went back, and every day I got a 526 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 5: call from somebody saying, you know, people were trying to 527 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: change his mind. They see you're back in Israel. They're trying. 528 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 5: And so I was on the phone every day and 529 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: I and you know, I was, look, you know, I 530 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: have to say, I, you know, well, I try to 531 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 5: keep my my you know, my my religious beliefs out 532 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 5: of government service. 533 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: You know, they're they're they're really personal. 534 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 5: And I, you know, I don't see America as being 535 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: a nation that should drive its policies off off of 536 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 5: religious beliefs. But boy, so he felt the you know 537 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 5: the weight of history and and and the importance. So look, 538 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 5: you know, in our faith, the temple was destroyed in 539 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: roughly the year you know, seventy, right, So it's been 540 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 5: about two thousand years that Jerusalem had been you know, 541 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: temple listening without not being the capital of Israel, not 542 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 5: being recognized. And during those two thousand years, Jewish people 543 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 5: have been saying the same prayer every day, three times 544 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: a day, for two thousand years, asking that God should 545 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 5: restore us to Jerusalem. That's it, just you know, we 546 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 5: you know, it's it's it's it's in every branch of Judaism. 547 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 5: I went and checked every prayer book from every different 548 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 5: you know, Reform Jews, Orthodox Jews, Conservative Jews, so FARIDERCT Jews. 549 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 5: They all say this prayer for two thousand years, I mean, 550 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 5: for as long as they've been around, to have to 551 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 5: be restored, you know. 552 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 3: Restore our capital in Jerusalem. 553 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 5: And here I am, you know, in a room with 554 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 5: the ability to have you know, I mean, the president 555 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 5: did not make Jerusalm the capital of Israel. You know, 556 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 5: God made Jewisrom the capital of Israel. The Jewish people 557 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 5: made Jerusalm the capital of Israel. But for the most 558 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 5: powerful nation in the world to recognize Jerusalem is Israel's 559 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 5: capital at a point when no other nation had ever 560 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: done it before. So to get to that point was 561 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 5: it to me was so deeply spiritually moving that I 562 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 5: kind of couldn't I couldn't excize it from my thought process. 563 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I understand that absolutely, and talking about faith something that 564 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: has fired you up. Recently, we look at Tucker Carlson, 565 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: who I mean, he started by hosting the noun with 566 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: the Mustache talking about how badly Israel traits Christians kind 567 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: of snowballed from there. Marjorie ler Green has now jumped 568 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: in and talking about how horrific the plight of Christians 569 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: is in Israel, and I mean, she's completely confused. As 570 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: you pointed out, Can you explain to me your perspective, 571 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: having been an ambassador, having lived there for years and 572 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: years seeing firsthand, why a why you think they're trying 573 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: to prosecute this particular fallacy and be what this reality 574 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: is on the ground. 575 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: Well, the votive is obviously, there's only fifteen million Jews 576 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: in the world. There's only five million Jews in America. 577 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 5: You know, we are as a political dynamic, essentially powerless. 578 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 5: But we have these incredible friends in the call called Christians, 579 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 5: you know, and a lot of them are Evangelical, and 580 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 5: there's you know, in America, that's the largest voting block 581 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 5: in the United States. And some of them are not Evangelic, 582 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: but they're you know, Christians of other persuasions, Catholics, and 583 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: you know, I'm not an expert in all the different 584 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 5: streams Mormons, there's a lot of different There's a lot 585 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: of Christians that really love Israel and love the Jewish people, 586 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 5: and they want to break that. They want to break 587 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 5: that relationship, and they feel the best way to break 588 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 5: that relationship is to say, why do you love Israel? 589 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: Christians are treated terribly there. This is there, this is 590 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: the idea. 591 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 5: And anyhow, for the vast majority of Christians who don't 592 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 5: get to Israel or don't get there very often, it 593 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 5: caused them to think, really, wow, we thought Israel, you know, 594 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 5: it was good for Christians, and now we're being told 595 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 5: that they discriminated against Christians. Christians are being massacred, they're 596 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: being they're not allowed to worship. So it's a very dangerous, 597 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 5: powerful and entirely false accusation that is designed entirely to 598 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 5: destroy whatever political influence Jews might have in the United 599 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 5: States or whatever influenced the pro Israel community might have 600 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 5: had in the United States. They want to get rid 601 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: of that. That's that's the goal. Now what do they do. 602 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 5: They choose Bethlehem because everybody knows that. You know, Jesus 603 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 5: was born in Bethlehem. So if Christians are treated poorly 604 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 5: in Bethlehem, that's you know, exhibit A to their argument 605 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 5: that israel Is is hostile to Christians. Okay, big problem, big, big, 606 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 5: big problem with that argument. Israel doesn't control Bethlehem. You know, 607 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 5: Israel doesn't control Bethlene. Bethlehem is in a place called 608 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 5: Area A, which was established in nineteen ninety four under 609 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: the Oslo Cords. Area A is a place where Israelis 610 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 5: are not allowed to go by the way, not just 611 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 5: because the palistin and authority won't let him in, but 612 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 5: because the Israeli governments won't let Israelis go in because 613 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 5: once they get in, they typically get get shot or 614 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 5: killed or murdered, and Israel can't get him out because 615 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 5: the Israeli army is not allowed to operate inside of 616 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 5: area a so so it's controlled by the Palistinian authority. 617 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 5: Palestin authority is a Muslim authority, entirely Muslim, and it 618 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 5: is the most corrupt organization in the world. Mahmud Abas, 619 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 5: who runs it, was elected twenty years ago for a four. 620 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: Years twentieth year of his fourth year term. What a hero. 621 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 5: But yeah, he will not permit elections. So he's sixteen 622 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 5: years past his due date, right, and he's running the 623 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 5: and he only you know, he only favors those that 624 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 5: you know, that can aid in his kind of corrupt 625 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 5: and debris, very wealthy. 626 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 3: You know. 627 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: I used to tell the president this was this isn't 628 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 5: true anymore now that Israel has a presidential or a 629 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: prime minister plane. 630 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: But in the old days, when I was, you know, eight. 631 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 5: Years ago, Muhamad A Bass used to fly around on 632 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 5: a seventy five million dollar jet wherever he went. And 633 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 5: then Tanyao used to fly, you know, on a commercial airliner, 634 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 5: you know, when he used to travel in. Israel's got 635 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 5: a you know, got a you know, almost a trillion 636 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 5: dollar economy in the pas broke. You know, so this 637 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 5: is this is kind of sets up there, you know, 638 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: sizes up the difference. So the you know, Bethlehem is 639 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 5: controlled by a corrupt, brutal Muslim regime. And as a result, 640 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 5: you know, over the last twenty thirty years, Bethlehem, which 641 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 5: had been eighty percent Christian and twenty percent Muslim, became 642 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 5: eighty percent Muslim and twenty percent Christian. And I can 643 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: tell you look when I you know, I've been going 644 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 5: to Israel since I was bar Midfitt in nineteen seventy one. 645 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 5: We used to go to Bethlum all the time. 646 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: I used to go. I used to go Christmas Eve. 647 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 5: I'm not Christian, but the pageantry, the beauty of it, 648 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 5: before the PA took over, it was spectacular. 649 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: Israel used to love. 650 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 5: I mean, Israelis used to go to the East because 651 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 5: it was it was an event, you know, to watch, 652 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 5: you know, Christmas Eve and Bethleem was televised all around 653 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 5: the world. 654 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: Now you compare that to a place like Nazareth. 655 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 5: Right, you know, we refer to Jesus as being Jesus 656 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 5: of Nazareth. Right, Nazareth is part of Israel. It's not 657 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 5: run by the Palacini authority. It's part of Israel. I've 658 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 5: been there, are lots of times. First of all, they 659 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 5: have they have the largest Christmas tree in the Middle East. 660 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 5: You know, it's this big, beautiful, massive Christmas tree. It's 661 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 5: like as big as the one in Rockefeller Center. And 662 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 5: they have a high tech hub there. They have some 663 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 5: some very large Israeli philanthropists have built uh you know, 664 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 5: laboratories there for the for the Arab community. It's really 665 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 5: kind of the kind of the intellectual hub of the 666 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 5: of the Arab world. And and it's full of Christians. 667 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 5: And and the thing that people don't get is that 668 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 5: Christian Arabs in Israel of any ethnic group, have the 669 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 5: highest standard of living, higher than Jews, you know what 670 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: I mean. 671 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: They they they. 672 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 5: Are, they are beloved, welcomed and successful. And and by 673 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 5: the way, Muslim Arabs as well. You know, I have 674 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 5: a dear friend who for a number of years was 675 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 5: the chairman of Montgloomy. 676 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: Is the largest bank in Israel. 677 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 5: He is a Muslim Arab, you know, he's and he's 678 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 5: heading running the biggest bank in Israel. So this is 679 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 5: all like, you know, this is all just taking advantage 680 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 5: of people's ignorance. And you know, they're not ignorant intentionally, 681 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 5: it's it's it's six thousand miles away. It's a difficult trip. 682 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 5: You know, it's not on everybody's curriculum in terms of 683 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 5: what they study. So they're taking advantage of that. And 684 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 5: Tucker Cross and Candas Owens and you know whoever else, 685 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 5: Marjorie Taylor Green's few this stuff. They're just making stuff 686 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 5: up and and and it's and they're doing it because 687 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 5: it's resonating, because this idea that you know, like anti 688 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 5: Semitism is, you know, it's it's always kind of lurking 689 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 5: underneath and you need sometimes sometimes events over the years, 690 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 5: you know, pull it out, like you know, you know 691 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 5: that when when when Captain Dreyfus was accused of treason 692 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: in France and Theaterrehearzel was was watching all of a sudden, 693 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 5: you know, kill dryf Is, kill all the Jews? Yeah, 694 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 5: what kill all the Jews? Come from all of a sudden, 695 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 5: you know, from one guy. So we have you know, 696 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 5: we you know, we have our drivers today, you know, 697 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 5: we have we have the war. We have Jeffrey Epstein, who, 698 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 5: by the way, hated Israel, you know, had had was 699 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 5: was was had nothing, there's nothing about him that was 700 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 5: Jewish didn't observe Judaism, didn't practice us. By the way, 701 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 5: I thought of this the other day, I just if 702 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 5: you don't mind me jumping in on this. You know, 703 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 5: everybody says, you know, when people say, you know, you 704 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 5: can be anti Zionist without being anti Semitic, they say, look, 705 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 5: Judaism is just the religion. It's not an it's not 706 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 5: a nationality. So you know, we're not We're not against 707 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 5: the religion, We're just against the nation. It shouldn't be 708 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 5: considered a nation. Okay, that's very interesting. Jeffrey Epstein, Right, 709 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 5: he's not a Jew. He's not a Jew under that 710 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 5: standard because there's nothing about him that identifies with Israel. 711 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 5: I think one of his emails says, I hate Israel. Right, 712 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 5: there's nothing about him that is religious at all. He 713 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 5: doesn't in any way accept the Jewish faith. But when 714 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 5: it comes to anti Sebbaitism, he's a Jew. 715 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 3: Right. 716 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Also tried to work with a former minister, didn't it 717 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: the only real connection in trying to essentially it was 718 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: his only connection borough Israel. 719 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, his only connection was with Avid Barak, who has 720 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 5: not been in politics for many, many years, has no 721 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 5: influence in Israel. It actually is the uh kind of 722 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 5: the main political antagonist of the Tanyahu So you know, 723 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 5: they're there. They that was the only connection anyway. It's 724 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 5: all that stuff is really unfortunate because you know, as 725 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 5: you know, and you had the courage, uh, you know, 726 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 5: you had the courage to point that out early on 727 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 5: and in a hostile environment. 728 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I don't want to I want to. 729 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,479 Speaker 5: Make sure that this audience understands just how much people 730 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 5: appreciate your courage and your your clarity willing be willing 731 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 5: to stand up to you know, to these forces when 732 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 5: they weren't threatening you at all. I mean, you're you're 733 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 5: a you know, beautiful blonde gentile. You know, you know, nobody's, 734 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 5: nobody's coming after you. That no one, no one was 735 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 5: coming after you. Then now maybe they are, but but 736 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 5: you could you could have just done you know, opinion 737 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 5: shows on all kinds of other stuff and stayed out 738 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 5: of this. And as many as many people have, many 739 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 5: many people have, including several several you know blonde uh 740 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 5: news news newspeople in America, We'll mentioned names. And you 741 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 5: could have you could have stayed out of it. You didn't. 742 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 5: And not only did you, you know, make the case 743 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 5: so eloquently for for Israel and against anti Semitism. But 744 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 5: I think you gave many of us, myself included, just 745 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 5: a feeling that we weren't alone, and that was maybe 746 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 5: more important than anything. 747 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: That's really beautifully put. And I thank you for it. 748 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful. And again I say how ridiculous it 749 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: is that it should be considered special that I decided 750 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: to say what I felt, what I observed, tell the 751 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: truth essentially, and that that should be considered something to 752 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: be worthy of thanks shows how insane the world is. 753 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: But I appreciate it so so much, and I thank you, ambassador. 754 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: Looking ahead, we look at the situation now. We're told 755 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: there is peace in the Middle East, the Palestinian authority, 756 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: and you explained that so well when it came to Bethlehem. 757 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: Also the people who pay money to those Hamas fighters 758 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: who kill Jews and kill anyone essentially, so they are 759 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: as corrupt as they come, and they are as evil 760 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: and vile as they come. Do you see there being peace? 761 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: Do you see this point plan that the President and 762 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: others have come up with actually coming into fruition. Do 763 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: you see a gaza that is thriving one day. What 764 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: do you think the next five years looks like? 765 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 5: Well, look, I would I would quote call them a 766 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 5: year who said that there will only be peace with 767 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 5: the Arabs when they love their children more than they 768 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 5: hate hours. And they're not there yet. They're not there yet. 769 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 5: Will they get there? I mean the theory is that 770 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 5: that if they have more skin in the game, you know, 771 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 5: if they have more of a life, if they've got 772 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 5: more of a sense of you know, human dignity, that 773 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 5: that that this will change. 774 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: We don't know, we don't know if that's going to 775 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 3: happen or not. 776 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I'm I'm you know, I'm kind of 777 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 5: I've been through this too for too long and too 778 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 5: many times, and been up front, you know with those 779 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 5: who want to kill us. To believe that there's an 780 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 5: easy fix that you can kind of turn a button 781 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: or flick a switch. Let's let's first see whether Hamask 782 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 5: gives up their arms. Uh, They're they're saying not only 783 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 5: they're saying that they won't do it, but they're saying 784 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 5: that no one's asked them to do it. I don't 785 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 5: believe that, but but I mean, they can read the 786 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 5: same twenty point plan that that that anybody else can 787 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 5: we really need a major, major transformation. 788 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 3: They're not there. 789 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 5: There's you know, way back when you know, like you 790 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 5: know what you think about Palestinians, you know, and people 791 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 5: mistakenly think, well, this is some very you know, ancient 792 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 5: people that's fighting for their you know, historical rights. 793 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: They got that wrong. 794 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 5: I mean Palestine, you know was was was. 795 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: A place without borders. 796 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 5: Nobody nobody ever assigned it borders before nineteen forty eight 797 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 5: because nobody cared about it. Nobody, nobody, nobody was claiming it. 798 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 5: You know, it was just a place that was controlled, 799 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 5: you know, first by the Romans, who named it Palestine 800 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 5: just to kind of kind of put the last last 801 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 5: dagger in the in Jewish nationality by naming it after 802 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 5: the Philistines, you know, who were the biblical enemies of 803 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 5: the Jewish people. So I went from the Romans to 804 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 5: a bunch of Muslim marauders, ultimately to the Ottoman Empire, 805 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 5: to the to the British Mandate, and nobody really cared 806 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 5: about it. 807 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: It was a back order. 808 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 5: You read Mark Twain or Elysses Grant. I mean they 809 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 5: visited and said this is there's nobody here. There's nobody here, 810 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 5: no one's no one's doing any And it was only 811 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 5: and and Palestine was occupied in those days by Jews 812 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 5: and by Arabs. You know, you could be a Palestinian Jew, 813 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 5: you could be a Palestinian Arab. And then as soon 814 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 5: as you know, the state of Israel was named, you know, 815 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 5: within a section of Palestine, you know, the the Arabs said, well, 816 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 5: you know, let's we got a great brand here. Let's 817 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 5: brand ourselves Palestinians, right, even though Palestinian would never never 818 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 5: meant the Arab. It meant, you know, whoever lived there 819 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 5: and could have been a Jew, they branded themselves. They 820 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 5: you know, Arafact came along, you know, pulled off this 821 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 5: spectacular public relations stunt and and basically extorted all his 822 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 5: neighbors and all the kind of relatively stable countries to say, look, 823 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 5: you give me money or I'm going to destroy your streets. 824 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,479 Speaker 5: I'm gonna you know, I'm going I'm going to own 825 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 5: the Jew hatred business. I'm going to own the anti 826 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 5: Israel business. And that business is powerful, and I can 827 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 5: make every one of your streets go a flame unless 828 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 5: you give me money. So we extorted everybody and that's 829 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 5: what this is a little bit about extortion. 830 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 3: From the beginning. 831 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 5: They're aready you know, back when they were divving up, 832 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 5: you know, Palestine, and you know, in in nineteen twenty, 833 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 5: seventy two percent of it was given to Jordan. You know, 834 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 5: I mean, Jordan is a Palestinian state. It's comprised of 835 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 5: seventy two percent of Palestine. There's no need for another 836 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 5: Palestinian state. But you know, again this is this is 837 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 5: the absence of you know, kind of basic education on 838 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 5: how we got here is lacking everywhere. I mean, nobody really, 839 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 5: nobody really gets it, you know, I mean people talk 840 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 5: about you know, you know, I've been a Palestinian for 841 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 5: fifty generations or twenty. 842 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 3: You can't be It's not possible. 843 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 5: And or you know, the great, the great lie that 844 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 5: you know, Jerusalem is holy to Christians and to Muslims, 845 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 5: but not to Jews. If it's holy to Christians, it's 846 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 5: only holy to Christians because of Jesus presence there. And 847 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 5: when Jesus was there, he was Jewish. He lives his 848 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 5: whole life as a Jew. It can't be holy to 849 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 5: Christians not be holy to Jews. So these are kind 850 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 5: of basic things that you know, we fight every day, 851 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 5: but you know where there is a fire hose of 852 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 5: misinformation that's incredibly well funded. You know, I'm sure you've 853 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 5: done shows on this about all the money that's flowing 854 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 5: into all the universities from people from countries that are 855 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,720 Speaker 5: enemies of Israel. Yeah, you can't contenure at an American 856 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 5: university if you're pro Isan. It can't contenure. Like, there's 857 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 5: no point in trying to be pro Israel because you 858 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 5: won't succeed. So it's this is a real uphill climate, 859 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 5: and you know, thank God for people like you that 860 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 5: are We're making it. We're making a stab at it. 861 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: Trying to fight back sometimes feels completely fruitless. But I think, 862 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: how has the world ever been changed? It's by individuals, 863 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: isn't it? One on one sometimes one on one changing 864 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: the minds and hearts and educating as you just did. 865 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: So simple. But so many of those who take to 866 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: the streets alongside her mass flags in Western nations have 867 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: no idea a very basic history, so thank you for 868 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: helping well. 869 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 5: Also also they have no idea, you know, what their 870 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 5: lives would be like if they lived under a mass 871 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 5: ule in case regards are women's. You know, women would 872 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 5: be subjugated. I saw the other day, you know, at 873 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 5: the All Star Game, the NBA All Star Game. You know, 874 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 5: Spike Lee is there and wearing a kafa. Now, if 875 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 5: Spike Lee lived in one of these countries, you know, 876 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 5: he would be. 877 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 3: Like a fourth class citizen. 878 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 5: I mean, the only people they hate more than Jews 879 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 5: or African Americans. 880 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 3: They consider them slaves to this day. So you know. 881 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: It's not only I mean it's it's dangerous, and it's tacky, 882 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's all those things, but it's embarrassingly stupid. 883 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: That would be the number one way in which I 884 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: would describe what he did. Not to mention, of course, 885 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: there was an Israeli for the first time playing, which 886 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: was incredible, Denny. Whether that or not contributed to what 887 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: he was doing, I suspect so. But you know history 888 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: will judge them when an ambassador, and judge them very poorly. 889 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, I agree. 890 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: Bless you. Thank you so so much for joining us. 891 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: It's been such an honor having you on, and such 892 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: an honor to meet you and your wife at the 893 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: Witsow event as well. Yeah, the honor was mine and 894 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: I thank you so so much for greeing to come 895 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: on and giving us some of your very valuable time. 896 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 5: Well, the honor is mine as well. I think you 897 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 5: know we will rise your full with the help of 898 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 5: people like you. Hopefully you can convince you know, ten 899 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 5: more of your influential friends to join this. But please 900 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 5: keep doing what you're doing. It's so important. And again 901 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 5: you give enormous hope and comfort to the Jewish people, 902 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 5: to the citizens of Israel, because, as I said, sometimes 903 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 5: we really feel like we're alone, and when you pop up, 904 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 5: we don't feel that way anymore. 905 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: So thanks again, Eric, and I'll be there for the 906 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: rest of my life life and it's an honor and 907 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: a privilege to stand alongside you, and I say that 908 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: very genuinely, say. 909 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thanks pleasure. 910 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: He's an incredible man, has been an incredible diplomat for many, 911 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: many years and continues to speak publicly about things that 912 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: he deeply cares about. So we thank him so much 913 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: for his time. And I want to just bring you 914 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: one bit of fan feedback, and this was off the 915 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: back of my piece on Candace Owens yesterday, and I 916 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: said to you, guys, you might be thinking, well, you're 917 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: telling us to ignore, but you're talking about her. And 918 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: I made the point that whilst so many millions are 919 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: exposed to what she's doing, there needs to be a 920 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: counter to that. The less people that watch her and 921 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: absorb her and listen, the less we can have to 922 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: cover it, because it means it won't be a big 923 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: enough issue to actually give any more airtime. Too. But 924 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: at the moment, too many young people in particular are 925 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: listening to it and watching it. And I got this 926 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: incredible note from this wonderful woman. I'll keep her identity private. 927 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: She said, thank you for posting that about Candace. My 928 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: twelve year old daughter just shared with me a video 929 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: by Candace, and I was devastated she actually saw some 930 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: of Candace's vile content. I immediately began attempting to course correct. 931 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: I came upon your video about an hour later and 932 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: we watched it together. Bless you. Thank you so so 933 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: much for that, and that just reassures us that this 934 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: isn't wasted, these attempts to expose her for what she is. 935 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that you and your daughter got 936 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: to watch that together, and hopefully your daughter sees why 937 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: Candice does what she does not because it's based on 938 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: truth or because it's the right thing to do, but 939 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: because it is a cheap money grab, it is for clickbait, 940 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: and it's pure evil in so many different ways. So 941 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 1: I thank you so much for reassuring us that by 942 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 1: covering it right now, we are doing the right thing. 943 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: And again, the second that she becomes someone who is 944 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: not influencing the masses, I would be happy to never 945 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: say her name again. Love you all have a great 946 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: next few days. Albeit Marra Lago interviewing Donald Trump Junior 947 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: and Eric Trump really excited about that, and Daniel Lobe 948 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: and Philippe Felipe Lafonte both billionaires, super successful. Hopefully some 949 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: of that rubs off. We will see. Let's love see Zoon, 950 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 1: Bye bye,