WEBVTT - What Happened in Michigan?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's August fifth,

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<v Speaker 3>and it would be a Wednesday, which means last night

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<v Speaker 3>we had the Michigan Primary and everybody was watching for

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<v Speaker 3>the hotly contested Democrat side of the Ledger Mike Rodgers

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<v Speaker 3>was uncontested on the Republican side. But it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>it was a lot closer than we anticipated it. But

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<v Speaker 3>Abdul Elseiah did, I believe pull it off, barring any surprises.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the race has been called by the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Times and others. He won forty eight point foury

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<v Speaker 3>eight percent to forty seven point five to one percent,

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<v Speaker 3>a difference really of about I mean, it's it's razor thin.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's what is that fourteen fifteen thousand votes

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<v Speaker 3>separating them. The polling had this thing at like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>ten right, it was going to be a ten point

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen points, maybe fifteen. And so because there was so

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<v Speaker 3>much irregularities, I wanted to bring on an actual polster

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<v Speaker 3>right at the jump. Here, Mark Mitchell. He's a head

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<v Speaker 3>polster at the honest polling company. Mark, good to have

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<v Speaker 3>you back, my friend. There's so many irregularities here. And

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get into this Trump tweet because he

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<v Speaker 3>and me talked before the show. I think I misinterpreted it,

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<v Speaker 3>but directionally we're kind of getting the same thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's slightly a different conclusion here. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>read it and then you have I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 3>you react to it. So Wayne County Detroit in Michigan

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the most corrupt voting areas in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, if not the world. It is strictly third World.

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<v Speaker 3>No arguments yet, right, Mark, we're all in agreement with

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<v Speaker 3>the boss about all that. Yeah, miracles happened in Wayne County,

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<v Speaker 3>including more votes being gassed than there are voters by

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. Therefore, the communist who has not liked in

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<v Speaker 3>Detroit is potentially in vote counter trouble. The radical left

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<v Speaker 3>socialist has a real shot, And don't discount all of

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<v Speaker 3>those fake mail in ballots that will surprisingly show up

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<v Speaker 3>at the last moment. Get ready for another rigged election

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<v Speaker 3>in November. We must vote for Mike Rogers and make

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan too big to rig. So I interpreted this as

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<v Speaker 3>there was funniness afoot in Michigan. There was the establishment

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<v Speaker 3>Dems came out. They did not want Abdul l Sied

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<v Speaker 3>to win. They wanted Hailey Stevens to win, and they

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<v Speaker 3>tried to rig it, and they tried to rig it

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<v Speaker 3>in some weird ways. Because some of this stuff just

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make any sense, Mark, And I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 3>the president means then, but you tell me what you

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<v Speaker 3>think he means and why he's got it a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit wrong here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so we got a break down. We'll go with

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<v Speaker 1>the end. First, he says, vote Mike Rogers, Okay, are

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<v Speaker 1>good there? Vote for the Republican. The Democrats shouldn't win

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan. But he's tweeting because he's upset with the

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<v Speaker 1>response of what happened last night? Well, what's he upset about?

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<v Speaker 1>Syed won and it seems like he would have preferred

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens to win, which is why he's objecting to what

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<v Speaker 1>happens with the electioneering, right, And that's wild and totally

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<v Speaker 1>in congruos because, like what you said, the polling overwhelmingly

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<v Speaker 1>said that Syed was going to win. The prediction markets

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<v Speaker 1>both had him at like ninety nine to one. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it was a one point race is actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Nutso it would be one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>polling like misses of the industry that I can recall

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<v Speaker 1>off the top of my head. And this isn't like

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey where you know, hey, it's a special election

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just after twenty four and there weren't that

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<v Speaker 1>many people that pulled it, and so of course we

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<v Speaker 1>were surprised. No, this is like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>were interested in this race, and good pollsters. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>said fifteen percent. Emerson is a good and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they missed. Sometimes it's hard. It's getting harder and harder

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<v Speaker 1>with all of this money, with all the electioneering, with

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<v Speaker 1>the machine problems that we haven't fixed, with the increase

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<v Speaker 1>in mail in ballots, And so I look at that

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<v Speaker 1>race and I say, well, what do we know so far?

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<v Speaker 1>There was a huge turnout, There was a really big

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<v Speaker 1>mail interurnout, and Syed massively underperformed the polling. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm looking at then is why did Syed underperform

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<v Speaker 1>the polling? Well, he was out competed. Stevens had a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of money. They were probably doing the things that

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats do and Democrat states to get their establishment candidate

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<v Speaker 1>to win because she is the establishment candidate, which was

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<v Speaker 1>probably handing out packs of cigarettes in the inner city

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<v Speaker 1>and driving mail in ballots around to the like nursing homes,

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<v Speaker 1>like all of the things that we know about happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what happened. And so I mean Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>upset that the establishment Democrat won because now you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a DSA candidate, let's be real, the establishment Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>And that will be really the first time we see

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<v Speaker 1>a race like that in a statewide race in a

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<v Speaker 1>purple state. So I think the twenty sixth race for

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan Senate and all of a sudden got really interested.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I mean, this is what's interesting. So you

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<v Speaker 3>talk about electioneering, we know the Democrats do this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We know they play games, They packed you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>mail ins and these all of this stuff. So he

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<v Speaker 3>lost early city vote by fifty points, like that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make any sense. Usually the more progressive candidate wins it.

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<v Speaker 3>This tells me that establishment Dems, especially in some of

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<v Speaker 3>these black urban cores, they didn't like Elsi ed and

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<v Speaker 3>they were working against him, doing all the Shenanigans that

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<v Speaker 3>we are now so accustomed to. Mark, am I wrong here?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're one hundred percent right. And again like there's

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<v Speaker 1>an aspect of this that we'll just never know. Looking

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, at the Emerson crossed tabs and polling's not perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>and the the sub samples excuse my dog for black

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<v Speaker 1>vote is probably small in his big margins, Bear, but

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<v Speaker 1>their poll had Stevens winning by forty among black voters.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at inner city, you know, districts

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit, and it's like, okay, they're coming in fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>they're coming in higher than that in some places. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>you have Cliburne that was shilling for the establishment candidate

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<v Speaker 1>probably out there, Like knows how some of these electioneering

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<v Speaker 1>rackets work. I'm not accusing anybody anything. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty clear like what probably happened. And we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of things in other races too, where a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money gets poured in to help shore up

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<v Speaker 1>an establishment candidate or ensure that they win. Yeah, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Sayad's crazy, Like yes, we should not

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<v Speaker 1>defund the police, right, Like obviously he's crazy. But the

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<v Speaker 1>problem that the Republicans have to wrestle with is that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to moderate and he's not going to run

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<v Speaker 1>on that stuff, and he's going to run like mom Donnie,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just like, hey, let me give you a

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<v Speaker 1>big economic hub. I'm here to help save you and

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<v Speaker 1>fix things. And it's bad for the youth. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to appeal to people.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I want to ask a speculative question mark, which

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<v Speaker 4>is there was also there weren't super competitive Republican races,

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<v Speaker 4>so their turnout was lower. But they had a primary

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<v Speaker 4>for District eight, that's the Flint area, and there was

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<v Speaker 4>a candidate who dropped out, had stopped campaigning, Thomas Smith,

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<v Speaker 4>and he actually defeated pretty easily, like seventeen points here

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<v Speaker 4>Amir Hassan, who was the endorsed candidate by President Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I guess it's worth asking do you think

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<v Speaker 4>this is some sort of name factor where people are

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<v Speaker 4>getting spooked by these more Islamic sounding names and could

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<v Speaker 4>that end up playing a role in the general election

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<v Speaker 4>where we have Mike Rogers super generic, you know, English

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<v Speaker 4>sounding name versus Abdul Al said, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try and provide what I think are

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<v Speaker 1>like the core you know, logic that applies to all

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<v Speaker 1>all these races when we look at them is that

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<v Speaker 1>you have your firm, straight ticket Republican base voter and

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<v Speaker 1>you have your firm straight ticket Republican Democrat voter. They're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of two different people. The Democrat just wants to win.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't really care so much about the candidate. The

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<v Speaker 1>Republican would like to see the Republican do something. And

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, and because traditionally Republicans don't do as much,

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<v Speaker 1>there are less of those people. There are less of

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<v Speaker 1>the core. We know this, like we saw this nationwide electorally.

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<v Speaker 1>But what there are is this surge volume of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are a lot more malleable and less ideological, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't care about things as much like the muslimsky.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to turn them off. So if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>with those people, you have to have a strategy.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Mark, I want to get into two things now,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is the c SPAN caller is this This

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<v Speaker 3>clip is just gold and I have to play it

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<v Speaker 3>because I think there's lessons for the Republican side on

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<v Speaker 3>this as well. And then I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>how brutal this primary was. And you already got Hassan

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<v Speaker 3>Piker saying we're not gonna mend fences. These guys were

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<v Speaker 3>calling him a terrorist and all this stuff. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>I think some opportunity to exploit that. Let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 3>and start with this. Sod eleven. This is c SPAN

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<v Speaker 3>College's nineteen years old call her named Brooks. Play eleven Brooks.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you vote today?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>I voted today. I voted for Abdul Alsai. I like

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of his policies, Medicare for all. But what

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<v Speaker 7>really convinced me is I've seen Hailey Stevens talk far

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<v Speaker 7>more passionately about her support for Israel than anything she

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<v Speaker 7>has for Michigan. So I feel voting for her would

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<v Speaker 7>leave blood on my hands and I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And how old are you, Brooks?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm nineteen. It was my first election, very excited to

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<v Speaker 7>vote for abdul al said.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I guess the question is Mark, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that you and Rich and some others have basically been saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this a pac money has become toxic. Whether it's right

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<v Speaker 3>or wrong, whether it's justified or not. You know a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people think of it, think of it as lobbying,

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<v Speaker 3>for a foreign country. We have to correct the record

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<v Speaker 3>that these are Jewish Americans, right, But they are interested

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<v Speaker 3>in Israel. So it's maybe it's a distinction without a

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<v Speaker 3>difference on some levels. But how prevalent is this when

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<v Speaker 3>you're polling, especially gen Z, anybody under forty or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even fifty, And how much does this bleed into how

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Rogers should message on this topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a lot to answer. First off, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to see people put foreign policy very high on

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<v Speaker 1>their list of interests when they go to vote. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not It's like six seventh or eighth whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>stack rank these things. But Israel is an issue, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would really bring up two issues. There's capitalism versus

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<v Speaker 1>socialism and Israel. And the reason that these young people

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<v Speaker 1>are going towards you know, candidates like this is because

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<v Speaker 1>they think that older people are too focused on Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>and they think that people aren't focused on their economic

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<v Speaker 1>lively and that's the big one. So overwhelmingly, economy's the

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<v Speaker 1>number one issue the young voters. I could just rattle

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<v Speaker 1>off a ton of polling about how they think the

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<v Speaker 1>entire system is cooked against them, and what's really wild

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<v Speaker 1>is that most under forty voters, including Trump voters, people

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<v Speaker 1>that voted for Trump, overwhelmingly support things that sound really socialist,

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<v Speaker 1>like nationalizing industries or confiscating excess wealth. These are people

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<v Speaker 1>who call themselves conservatives. I think it was over fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of under forty Trump voters in one of our

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<v Speaker 1>polls said that they would actually vote for a socialist candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>So the problem is an optics and messaging problem for

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<v Speaker 1>the right, okay, And things, in my opinion that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to work are putting is real first, or accusing

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<v Speaker 1>other people of being a socialist. Young people don't really

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<v Speaker 1>aren't scared by that. And even I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>xenophobia stuff like we talked about before the break is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very effective because I think these people

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<v Speaker 1>want to be put first and are expecting authenticity and

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, the maturity to get into government and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like deliver on what you promised and what that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be if you want to capture the under Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the under fifty voter now, in my opinion, is

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<v Speaker 1>national economic populism. And I said this message to Trump

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<v Speaker 1>last fall, and I wish there had been more listening

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe now it's too late. I don't know. But

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<v Speaker 1>what you need to give these people is something to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for a reason that Republicans long term will fix

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that are structurally affecting young people in America.

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<v Speaker 1>And that means providing some kind of meaningful alternative to socialism.

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<v Speaker 1>And it ain't just more of the same, like Granddaddy's

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<v Speaker 1>capitalism is not going to win. It might win for

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<v Speaker 1>a little longer, as long as you keep dumping advertising

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<v Speaker 1>into the boomer linear television slots. But there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a tipping point, and the young people aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fighting the same right left battle that the older,

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<v Speaker 1>more ideological generations are. It's going to be over putting

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<v Speaker 1>themselves first and getting what they want. And unfortunately for Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>they made themselves a pretty big whipping boy over this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tried to say this was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. But and my advice for Trump wasn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do the Iran strike. It's make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>show people that you're still putting their economic situation first

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<v Speaker 1>despite whatever else you do. And they would let him

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<v Speaker 1>get away with whatever. I mean, nobody really cared about Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in and out and we were still focused on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the economy and the domestic policy agenda.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and listen, I think this what everything you're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>I basically, you know, I think there's really well articulated there,

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<v Speaker 3>and none of this should be interpreted as anti Israel

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<v Speaker 3>or anti Semitic. No, I think we you know it

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<v Speaker 3>bears repeating. We think that stuff is brain rot and

0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.200
<v Speaker 3>it's garbage from the pit of hell. But when we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about pure politics, it's important to understand what young

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<v Speaker 3>people are hearing, how they're interpreting it, and what they're

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<v Speaker 3>voting on. And your message here, I totally agree, is economy, economy, economy,

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<v Speaker 3>What are my felt realities? And we could tell people

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<v Speaker 3>they have to cook their own burritos and they need

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<v Speaker 3>to cook from home all they want, But at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, things are expensive, and that's not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily Trump's fault. I think he deserves a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>credit for bringing inflation back down, especially when you're navigating

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<v Speaker 3>the complexities of the Iran war. But the felt, the

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<v Speaker 3>felt situation for many young people especially is that we

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<v Speaker 3>just are not getting what we hoped we would get.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe those expectations were unrealistic, but that is a

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<v Speaker 3>lived experience and that has political ramifications. So we just

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<v Speaker 3>need a message on it. We need we need big

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<v Speaker 3>national messaging pr battles on this front about what we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing to address the problems domestically. Okay, I've only got

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<v Speaker 3>I've only got a few seconds here, so I want

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<v Speaker 3>to hit this last point. There is carnage after this

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<v Speaker 3>primary mark on the Democrat side, and I think we

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<v Speaker 3>need to take a note of it. Here's a Hassan

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<v Speaker 3>Piker talking about mending bridges. He doesn't like it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not six like everyone being like Abdullah's a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>work to do mending bridges. Here's the take nuke for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, you are.

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<v Speaker 3>All unbelievably islamophobic pieces. Okay, so we're not getting conciliatory

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<v Speaker 3>messaging from the chief LSI ED pusher, Hassan Piker. Here,

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<v Speaker 3>what can Republicans do to exploit this mark one minute?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think they can learn from the situation that

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<v Speaker 1>what you're seeing is playing out on both the right

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<v Speaker 1>and the left right now. There are people, intractable people

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<v Speaker 1>in both sides who are fighting over basically Israel and

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<v Speaker 1>the economy. And when I say the economy, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just prices, it's the idea that the entire economic system

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<v Speaker 1>is cooked against the younger people. This happened before binding inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Bernie Sanders is doing very well with young people

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<v Speaker 1>long before the inflation was a problem. So what we

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<v Speaker 1>have is an issue where the workers aren't being represented.

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<v Speaker 1>There's too much globalism, financialization and rent seeking have ruined everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now again, I think that's the biggest opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>because it was a natural extension of Trump's platform, which

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<v Speaker 1>is to realize we have to change the way the

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<v Speaker 1>economy works for people in this country. You can laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at his ham piker. I don't know how like effective

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be, but we have the same people

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<v Speaker 1>that are trying to purify through subtraction, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>term me and Rich both came up with. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>an effective strategy to build a coalition.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Mitchell, great stuff, head polster at the Honest Polling Company.

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<v Speaker 3>how crazy the Senate is getting, I can imagine that selfishly,

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<v Speaker 3>their senator, So we got to talk about it. You are,

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<v Speaker 3>mister Sharia, you are fighting it at every turn. We

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<v Speaker 3>now have an Abdul lsa Ed who is the Democrat

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<v Speaker 3>primary winner in Michigan. He's a man of Egyptian descent.

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<v Speaker 3>He spent his summers in Egypt. He talked about that

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<v Speaker 3>last night, and he's a radical communist and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be the Democrat standard bar in that state up against

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Rogers.

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<v Speaker 8>Your take, sir, The enemy is inside the gate and

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<v Speaker 8>they're coming hard. And unfortunately, our education system has pushed

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of our younger kids. And then of course

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<v Speaker 8>we have Democrats that are actually democrats, but there are followers,

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<v Speaker 8>they're not leaders, and they're following this socialist communists agenda

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<v Speaker 8>to a t and we're fighting it every day here,

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<v Speaker 8>but we don't have enough fighters on our side, on

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<v Speaker 8>the Republican side, you know, we we think everything's gonna

0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.960
<v Speaker 8>run on autopilot and it's gonna be okay. If we

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<v Speaker 8>don't straighten out this country's voting, if we don't straighten

0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.720
<v Speaker 8>out this country's immigration system, we're not gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 8>It's gonna be over with. And as you said, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>gonna go back to Alabia. Hey, we might build a

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.800
<v Speaker 8>thirty foot wall around our state because I know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 8>I can see it coming, I can hear it coming.

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<v Speaker 8>I can you know, you can just smell it out

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<v Speaker 8>there that they want to take this country over and

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<v Speaker 8>they're not. You know, they're a lot more aggressive than

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<v Speaker 8>we are as Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's right. So this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>Abdul lsa Ed talking about his American experience SOT four.

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<v Speaker 9>I know what America gave me.

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<v Speaker 3>I spend summers in Egypt.

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<v Speaker 10>I got my medical education paid for by the NIH

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<v Speaker 10>and at the same time, growing up just fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 10>away from me, children whose families had been here far

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<v Speaker 10>longer than mine, who never got those same opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's talking about economics, he's talking about medicare for all,

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<v Speaker 3>he's talking about making things more affordable. This is their messaging,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's all going to lead to disaster. It's been

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<v Speaker 3>tried time and time again. But there's a couple issues. Senator.

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<v Speaker 3>We have economic illiteracy with so many young people. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just a fact. I mean, I've talked to them. These

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<v Speaker 3>are good kids, they're good patriots, they love their country.

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<v Speaker 3>They just don't they don't understand. I'll never forget. We

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<v Speaker 3>were doing a round table for our chapter leadership summit,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the girls around the table, Senator said

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe a solution was increasing the minimum wage, as

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<v Speaker 3>if that would have any practical impact on anything other

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<v Speaker 3>than making things more expensive. But this is a problem

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<v Speaker 3>because this message is rosy, and I'm worried that we

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<v Speaker 3>are not, as Republicans countering it with a positive vision

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<v Speaker 3>of how our ideas are actually the ones that are

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<v Speaker 3>going to work. And I'm worried we're not focused enough

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<v Speaker 3>on that. Your tech, Yeah, well, we don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>game plan.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, there's no plan intact up here from the

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<v Speaker 8>federal government that takes this back to our kids all

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<v Speaker 8>over the country and explains to them the difference between socialism, communism,

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<v Speaker 8>and being a capitalist country. They don't realize how good

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 8>we have it here now. I can understand a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of them going to these universities and getting a degree

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<v Speaker 8>in sociology and spending one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 8>or barring one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and getting

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<v Speaker 8>out and they can't get a job at Walmart because

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<v Speaker 8>they didn't get a degree that actually you can get

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<v Speaker 8>a job. Our universities have become a business instead of

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<v Speaker 8>an educational institution. They want to make money. They enable

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<v Speaker 8>all these woke professors that have been there for years

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<v Speaker 8>that are on tenure to preach whatever they want to preach,

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<v Speaker 8>and they're not controlled. So we got a lot of problems.

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<v Speaker 8>And President Trump wants to take education out of the

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<v Speaker 8>federal government. He's exactly right. We have to do that.

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<v Speaker 8>If we don't, that's going to be a continuation of

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<v Speaker 8>just indoctrinating these kids in this woke ideology. But again

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<v Speaker 8>that and then immigration, of letting these people come here

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<v Speaker 8>from country to agree that that have no clue. This

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:08.160
<v Speaker 8>guy says, we deserve nine to eleven. What it's what's

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<v Speaker 8>been twenty five years? It hadn't been that long ago.

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<v Speaker 8>What are you talking about? And when I got my

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 8>degree because of NIH? Who you think paid for your degree?

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<v Speaker 8>Capitalists in this country paid money, tax money, and NIH

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<v Speaker 8>has stolen it for years and given it to people

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<v Speaker 8>all over the world. It is we've got a broken system.

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<v Speaker 8>The federal gunment's broken. President Trump's trying to put it

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<v Speaker 8>back together, but unfortunately he's been fought from both sides,

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<v Speaker 8>from Republicans and Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach Turberville, I think it's We had a writer on

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<v Speaker 4>Helen Andrews yesterday and she talked about what should really

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<v Speaker 4>frighten us is how easy these figures like Hassan Piker,

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<v Speaker 4>like Elsaiaed, these guys who their parents weren't born here,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe they themselves weren't born here, but how adept they

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<v Speaker 4>are at using this lingo of white supremacy of America

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<v Speaker 4>as a racist country as America because the nation that

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<v Speaker 4>needs to atone and pay reparations, especially to people like

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<v Speaker 4>themselves or their parents or their kids who only recently

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 4>arrived here. And we were also discussing this in context.

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<v Speaker 4>We still have Republicans on Capitol Hill who say we

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<v Speaker 4>need more guest workers, more migration from the Third World.

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<v Speaker 4>We're basically sticking our head into a noose here of

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<v Speaker 4>let's bring in people who are adopting this rhetoric of

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<v Speaker 4>let's destroy America, and we're just.

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<v Speaker 9>Feeding it to them.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's so easy for them to build their entire

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:34.679
<v Speaker 4>lives and now win elections around it.

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<v Speaker 9>Like who are they fooling?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we're walking into a war zone without a gun,

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 8>and there's nobody fighting back.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody, let me tell you what happens up here.

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 8>We're more worried right now about going out and campaigning

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 8>and trying to keep a majority than we are doing

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 8>what we should do. How about we take care of

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 8>the American people. Don't worry about getting elected. I mean,

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 8>we don't try to play to win up here. All

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 8>we try to do is and that has gotten us

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 8>in trouble. We should be passing everything in the world,

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 8>bust to filibuster, because folks, it is coming when they

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 8>get control, and it's not gonna be too far down

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.719
<v Speaker 8>the road with the people we have elected now up

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 8>here in the Senate and the House. By the way,

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 8>that we're going to be controlled by these communists, and

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 8>it's gonna be game, set match.

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 6>I mean, we are we're on the last leg.

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean, this is not where this could happen thirty

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 8>forty fifty years from now. It's gonna happen a year

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 8>or two now if we don't understand what is happening.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 8>But again, we got too many people that love power.

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 8>We got too many people that are greedy. We have

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 8>too many people that really don't understand anything other than

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 8>I just want to come back up here. I want

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 8>to I want to have my name as a or

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 8>a senator.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and that's true. They want they want

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 3>the title, but we can't even get Republicans to stay

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 3>in DC during the August recess. Now throw up one

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 3>eighty two. You are proudly one of these people. And

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 3>by the way, if you weren't, anybody who's not calling

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 3>to cancel the August Recess is not allowed on this

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 3>show right now, I mean probably ever. But throw the

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 3>image up here. That's a good chunk of the GOP

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 3>in the Senate. And yet we can't get a leader

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 3>soon to get behind this effort and get the Save

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 3>America Act pass. Let's play cut thirteen.

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 11>First is there are no Democrats we're going to vote

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 11>for this. All forty seven voted against the Save Act

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 11>five times. So let's make this an issue in the campaign.

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 11>How about we go out and turn our fire on

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 11>Democrats and make it about them opposing the Save Act.

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 11>So we're not that's the point. So we're not getting

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 11>any Democrats. The second thing is we are not getting

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 11>rid of the legislator philibusterer. The votes aren't there to

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 11>do that. I've made it abundantly clear, many many times,

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 11>and it seems to me some days that I'm the

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 11>only one here can count to fifty in this town.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just hear that, and I just hear it,

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 3>just get my blood boiling. I'm gonna be honest. We

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 3>have had a trifecta of Republican control in the House,

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Senate and the White House five times in the last century,

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 3>five times most of the time. It's two years since,

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 3>and he wants to use it for the next election.

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 3>Has he not looked at the polling we've got like

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 3>time is short. I cannot, for the life of me

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 3>wrap my head around what the hell he's talking about.

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Cancel the August recess. And I'm sorry to get worked up,

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 3>but this is just I've been This has been building

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 3>up in me for so long. Senator, I know you

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 3>got to keep things collegial because it's what you senators

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 3>kind of have to do. But what is going on?

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Why can we not cancel the stink in August recess?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, first of all, there's a lot of Trump derangement

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 8>syndrome up here. They want the country to stay the

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 8>way it was. They don't understand how how it's changing

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 8>underneath us as we speak. I mean, there's a war

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 8>going on out there. This is not the America that

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 8>we knew just five, six, seven years ago. This is

0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 8>totally changed. And the president he sees it, he sees it. Okay,

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 8>you know things have to change here. You got to

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 8>bust to philibuster. The only way we're going to keep

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 8>majority is bust to philibuster. Pass everything we possibly can

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 8>at fifty one, get the country back on track because

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 8>when and if they do eventually they went, they're going

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 8>to bust to philibuster. The only way, Yeah, the only

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 8>way we can get reelected up here is do something

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 8>for the American people. Let me tell you something. People

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 8>are going to fight their tails off. If we go

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 8>on recess at the end of this week, we will

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 8>not come back until the middle of September. Then we'll

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 8>go two weeks and then we're going again for another month,

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 8>and then we have the mid terms. It's gonna be game,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 8>set match. You know they're looking at us, going, we

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 8>gave the majority and you're not doing anything.

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Was of course again, yeah, and why exactly Listen. I

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 3>am of the perspective that the Democrats are unacceptable. Okay,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 3>this country cannot absorb another three to five million illegals

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 3>every year under the Democrat rule. Okay, we can't. We can't,

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 3>so that that is out of the option list. Okay,

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 3>they have lost their minds. The are a bunch of communists.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Obviously that's unacceptable. But for the love Republicans, if you

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 3>don't do your job, people in the middle normies, people

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 3>that are not clued in, are not gonna come out

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and vote for you if you don't deliver. If you

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>want to get elected again, deliver for the people. We're

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>out here screaming and hollering, begging these people in the

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 3>DC to listen to us, and I got like you

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 3>and Mike Lee I just I cannot wrap my head

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>around at Centater. It's so frustrating. I know you're not

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 3>done railing against the Save America Act, the fact that

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 3>we can't get this done, so the floor is your, sir.

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Well, it's mind boggling to me how we even

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 8>have Republicans are against this one set as draconian.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 6>Let me explain it this way.

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 8>Since I've been here, there's about twelve to fourteen states

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 8>in this country we will never win as conservative to Christians, constitutionalists,

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 8>we're not gonna win. They cheat the heck out of us.

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 8>They're all rigged, and there's over a dozen of them.

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 8>And so those states will never get a congressman, will

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 8>never get up a senator obviously, won't get a governor.

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 8>But the end of the day, if you look at this,

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 8>it's growing a couple two, three, possibly a year.

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 6>We're gonna get to a.

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 8>Point we're not gonna have any majorities in this country.

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 8>So we're gonna get run over. So that's a reason

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 8>we have to And in the past she probably didn't

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 8>need federal oversight of these elections, but you do now

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 8>because these people are bound determined to cheat at every turn,

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 8>and so that's the reason we need.

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 6>To Save America Act.

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 8>Now we're gonna have one shot at it, I think

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 8>possibly this weekend, and we're gonna do a reconciliation of

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 8>trying to get a supplemental for the military, which they

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 8>need about sixty billion dollars, and we're gonna try to

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 8>connect it with that. Now, somehow, someway, we'll have to

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 8>word it where the parliamentarian will keep it in there. Now,

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 8>this parliamentary is a Democrat. She should have been fired

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 8>when we took over, but we didn't do it. It

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 8>was a I think a Harry Reid appointment. But we

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 8>can fire the parliamentarian and if she doesn't go along

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 8>with this, our leader gon Thune needs to fire immediately

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 8>because that's what happened. Trent Lott fired a parliamentarian when

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 8>she didn't agree with or he didn't agree with him

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 8>years ago and got something across the finish line, we

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 8>better start playing hardball here, because we're playing softball. We're

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 8>playing Oh, we're mister nice guy. The hell with that.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 8>We have to start playing hardball and get to save

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 8>America across the line. It will not make a lot

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 8>of difference in this election. Coming up, but the years

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 8>to come, if we don't, we're going to lose more

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 8>and more of these states that are going to figure

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 8>this out and how to cheat, how to change balance,

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 8>do the things they need to do.

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 6>And this country will be gone.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 4>I actually would disagree with you on this election, Coach Tubervelt,

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 4>for one very important reason which I think Andrew you'd agree.

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 4>We've been hearing about this all year, the Save of

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 4>America Act. President Trump has been touting it. We've heard

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 4>Republican senators, some of the ones who are now slow

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 4>playing it or saying we can't pass it.

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 9>We're making noise. Oh yeah, we're gonna we're working on this.

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 4>We think we can find a way to get it through.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 4>And they've just done these delay tactics, delay tactics, delay

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 4>tactics all year. And if they get all the way

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.479
<v Speaker 4>to election day and it's not passed, and everyone decides

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 4>they were lying to us this whole year, it's going

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 4>to murder our turnout. They you practically at this point,

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 4>I think, have an obligation to pass it or the

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 4>entire base is.

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 9>Going to feel like they were cheated.

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 3>And I say, Coach, you know, you go back to

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>that Thoon clip. He's saying, am I the only one

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 3>in Washington who can count to fifty? No, sir, that

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 3>is an idiotic thing to say in a microphone. Okay,

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 3>first of all, Second of all, just do the dang vote.

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Just do it. Go out on the floor and do

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 3>the talking filibuster likes Senator Lee has been proposing, and

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 3>put names on the board so we know who to

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 3>primary next. If you're going to vote against this, and

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 3>then I want to know. Okay, that's and by the way,

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the American people deserve that, they deserve the transparency. Go

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 3>show that you actually are willing to let the process

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 3>play out even if you don't have the votes. Stop

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 3>covering for these cowards and make them put their name

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 3>on the line.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 6>I totally agree with you. Now.

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 8>The last time we put it for a vote was

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 8>in reconciliation back in June. I think Lindsey Graham had

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 8>it as an amendment, and we got forty nine votes.

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 8>We made progress, We made progress, We got forty nine.

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 8>We can add more. But again, at the end of

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 8>the day, it's either got to be a fifty one vote.

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 8>We can't get sixty because none of these idiots on

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 8>the Democrat side are ever going to vote for it.

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 8>But we can get to fifty one through reconciliation. If

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 8>we just press people and let them know how important

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 8>it is. They'll start hearing from people back home. But

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 8>if you don't vote, vote on it, like you said,

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.479
<v Speaker 8>then your constituents don't know who's against it. And so

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 8>this weekend will be a big test. It'll be a big, big,

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 8>big days a country, I would say Friday or Saturday.

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 8>And Ron Johnson wants a reconciliation. He's the new budget chair,

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.719
<v Speaker 8>taken over for Lindsey Graham. He said he'll run the floor,

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 8>he'll do it the right way, and I think we'd

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 8>have a great chance.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 6>Again. We got to have a leader stand up and

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 6>say enough so enough of this.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, coach, this is the problem, I think.

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just being cards on the table. I've called

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 3>for him to be removed now and I think he's

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.439
<v Speaker 3>earned every bit of that. And but here's the deal.

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 3>If you don't actually call the vote, if you don't

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 3>do the things, then you're just a coward that's covering

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>up for other cowards. Okay, I don't care if you

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 3>don't have the votes, we want the vote to happen,

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 3>and we want to see who's voting against the interests

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 3>of the base. We want to see who is betraying conservatives.

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 3>Because you're right, time is short. People don't understand what

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 3>we're up against, the demographic landslide that we're facing as

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 3>a country, the fact that we've got distractions in the

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Middle East instead of focusing domestically. This is serious business.

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 3>So we got we got one last last shot at

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 3>this and we got to get it done. Failure is

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.720
<v Speaker 3>not an option. Final minute to you.

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 8>Well, exactly right. We've got a lot of problems in

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 8>this country, a lot of them, and we're stopping a

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:07.760
<v Speaker 8>lot of the fraud. You know, we lose one hundred

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 8>million dollars an hour, three hundred and sixty five days

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 8>to money that we lose to fraud and theft in

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 8>this country.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 6>One hundred million. How stupid is that?

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.439
<v Speaker 8>And that's the reason that we need thase we needed

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 8>President Trump to come in. We got to cut back

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 8>on these day bureaucrats or are stealing this blind the

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<v Speaker 8>My god, folks, this is this is this is past serious. Uh,

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<v Speaker 8>we only had twenty percent of the people vote in

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<v Speaker 8>Alabama in the primary, twenty percent. We better get upwards

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<v Speaker 8>of fifty sixty seventy percent in some of these states

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<v Speaker 8>or we're gonna get whitewashed. People are gonna run right

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<v Speaker 3>And you saw that last night in Michigan. By the

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.400
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0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 3>these returns didn't make any sense. The establishment Dems were

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 3>doing all their electioneering shenanigans to try and rig it

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<v Speaker 3>for Stevens. It wasn't enough, but it was darn near enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the margin's fourteen k right now. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>nothing else IAD's gonna win, but they tried like heck

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing that can overcome it is being too

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.600
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<v Speaker 3>the economy right now on social media, the whole debate.

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<v Speaker 3>I've accidentally sparked another one about burritos. Blake's been weighing in.

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<v Speaker 3>He he likes cheap burritos, but that's fine.

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<v Speaker 9>Don't I don't know the last time I've actually had

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<v Speaker 9>just a burrito. We're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have one this week. It's gonna be a

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 3>whole thing. But here to help us discuss is David Blize.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 3>He's the pastor and director of Patriot Mobile Faith. You

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 3>can find him on Exit Faith Mobilized. He does a

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 3>lot of great content and he's got a just a

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:04.760
<v Speaker 3>really important perspective on this whole debate. So, Pastor, welcome

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 3>to the show. It's great to have you. And I'm

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 3>excited to get into this because the clip that started

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.399
<v Speaker 3>this whole kind of debate actually was one with our

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 3>friend Jack Posobic. It was actually a back and forth.

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, people are losing this, you know that didn't

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 3>like what Jack had to say, Like you know, we

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 3>had Mikey McCoy arguing with him on the clip. But anyways,

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 3>we'll play the clip and then we'll get your reaction

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side. Top fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>He should we are capitalists, like we are fundamentally pro

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 4>somebody spending their wealth how they want.

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 9>To spend their wealth.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't.

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 9>I don't think we should.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we should center our our country around capital.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's I think that's not Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, pastor your reaction to that now infamous clip.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and then I want to talk about the burritos

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 12>because that's crucial as well.

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 9>Yes it is.

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 12>But yeah, so I saw this clip, and you know,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 12>the first thought that I had, you know, labeling I'm

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 12>not a capitalist, I don't know what that means. You know,

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 12>maybe it's because we're saying I'm a Christian first, you know,

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 12>I can understand it. And then he said, I don't

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 12>think we should center our country around capitalism. And again,

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 12>I like to give grace first. I'm a pastor. I

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 12>need grace to we all need grace. Maybe he's saying

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 12>I want to center the country around biblical values and morality. Hey,

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 12>that's great too. I agree with that. We don't want

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 12>to center around a system. We don't want to center

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 12>it around democracy, we don't want to center it around capitalism.

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 12>We want to center it on the biblical morality, the

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.879
<v Speaker 12>biblical foundation that we're endowed by our creator, our rights

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 12>are given by God. The government only helps enforce those rights,

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 12>protect those rights, not give those rights.

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 5>However, I think this plays into.

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 12>Just this idea that we see on social media about

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 12>capitalism and socialism, and capitalism is sometimes just portrayed as greed.

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 12>But here's how I always see really the value statement.

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 12>Capitalism values freedom, and that is why it is not

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 12>a perfect system. It's the best system that we've found

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 12>economically because it values liberty, it values self determination. It

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 12>values that you get to spend your own money, and

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.720
<v Speaker 12>you get to be generous if you choose so, because

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 12>generosity has to be a choice. The other option is socialism,

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 12>which values fairness, and the government wants to take you know,

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 12>sees your capital and then they give it out. That's

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 12>not generosity because you can't be generous with someone else's finances,

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 12>with someone else's money. And so we have to be

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 12>aware of what the foundation should be Biblical morality, because

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 12>that provides the guard rails for capitalism to succeed. Why

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 12>would capitalism succeed because you have biblical guard rails? Then

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 12>you know, the Conservative party historically is way more generous.

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 12>Why because they have the freedom to be generous. The

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 12>downside of capitalism is if left unchecked, it will develop greed,

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 12>it will develop selfishness, a love for money.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 5>The Bible has a lot to say about that.

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<v Speaker 12>But the answer to that is not, well, then let's

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 12>just get rid of capitalism, because what you're saying is

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 12>let's get rid of the freedom, let's get rid of

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 12>the choice.

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 5>Well, God didn't do that.

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 12>God didn't say, hey, Adam and Eve, you're done making

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 12>choices robots now, No, he said. Essentially, God says, I

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 12>am going to risk what is on the other side

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 12>of giving freedom, which is they could use that freedom

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 12>to be generous or to be selfish.

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 5>But that's the risk.

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 12>So capitalism is the most biblical economic system that we

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 12>have because it values freedom and choice, which is something

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 12>the Bible has a lot to say about, and stewardship

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 12>and generosity. It's not the perfect system. It reminds me

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 12>of the quote about democracy. Democracy is the worst form

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 12>of government except for all.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 5>The other forms.

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 12>So we're not looking for a perfect system. We're looking

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 12>for the most biblical system to run economics in a nation.

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 12>And historically speaking and biblically speaking, it's been capitalism. It

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 12>doesn't mean it's perfect. Of course, it can lead to

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 12>greed and selfishness.

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 5>But that's the.

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 3>That's the the totally you know.

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 5>The risk of freedom.

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 4>I think that's that's so correct, and I think you

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 4>want to take the long view here. You mentioned that

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 4>capitalism has given America the wealth to be generous, and

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 4>I think it's worth reminding people how unusual America is

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 4>in that regard that we are a nation of givers

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 4>in our own communities and around the world. Basically there

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.760
<v Speaker 4>are almost entire countries that are reliant on the charitable

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 4>giving of Americans. That America is the country that produces

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 4>missionary far more missionaries than any other country come out

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 4>of America to go around the world. And I think

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 4>that's directly linked to our free market system, even our

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 4>way of our very energetic church environment, the way that

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 4>there is so many different competing Protestant churches Catholic churches

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 4>that there were very on the ball religiously, and I

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 4>think that's actually a side effect of having this capitalist

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 4>worldview that if you don't like the way something works,

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:10.760
<v Speaker 4>you can.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 9>Go and make your own version of it.

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, and what we see in socialist countries is everyone

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 4>instead they lose the capacity to do that. It's always

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 4>the state should come in and bail me out. The

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 4>state should decide this. I don't have the ability to

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 4>decide for myself, and I eventually you don't want to

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 4>decide for yourself anymore.

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>To the extent that it needs clarification because I think

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 3>there was some consternation about that clip, like what is

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 3>TPUSA stand for? No, no, no, We are pure capitalists, like

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 3>in the sense that we are very pro capitalism with guardrails,

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 3>with biblical guard rails. We're not pro greed, we're not

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 3>pro materialism, we're not pro worshiping at the altar of

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, having billions of dollars or anything like that.

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, Charlie would often say that capitalism is the

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 3>most proven, moral and effective economic system in the world.

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 3>And you know, you said it's the most we've ft,

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 3>the best we found. Well, it's kind of actually inverted

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 3>that it found us. In many ways, it's kind of

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 3>a natural outflow of the human spirit of the way

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 3>we are wired to freely exchange goods and services and

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 3>and so so there's no hopefully there's no lack of

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 3>clarity on that front. And so, but I love the

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 3>what what you're bringing in what so much of our

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 3>The solution to our problems in this country is not

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 3>more government. It's we need to be better people. We

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 3>need to we need to cry out to the Lord

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 3>to make our country great. From a character standpoint, from

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 3>a faith standpoint, that's the answer to so many of

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 3>our problems. And when we invite government in it usually,

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, in Reagan's famous words, I'm not a huge

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 3>uh Reagan quota all the time, but you know, the

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 3>the was the scariest words in the English language is

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Final minute in this segment to you.

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I think it's I think it's really important.

0:45:56.120 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 12>And I think when we understand that the number one

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 12>value of these two systems capitalism values freedom, it values liberty,

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 12>and that makes sense why America has has been a

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 12>capitalist nation is because what was the founding principle life,

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 12>liberty and the pursuit of happiness or John Locke life,

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 12>liberty and property.

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 5>So it's what it's saying is that's a value statement.

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 12>Number one thing is life, and then the other two

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:29.760
<v Speaker 12>are my personal happiness, my self determination, and my liberty.

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 5>The government can't take those away from me. And they

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 5>didn't give them to me.

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 12>And you ask any you know person that values socialism,

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 12>they value fairness. Hey that's great. My kids love fairness too.

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 12>But you know when they realize fairness is not the

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 12>greatest value is when you go to a school and

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 12>you say, hey, equal opportunity, right, that fair? Yeah, it's fair,

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 12>equal opportunity in equal you know what is it called

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 12>a outcome? And they're like, yeah, yeah, it sounds good,

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 12>sounds right, and the UK okay, uh so here's your

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 12>test scores. You got an A, you gotta B, you

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 12>gotta C, you gotta D, you got an F. Let's

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 12>just everyone's gonna C minus sound good. Fair, that's fair

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 12>And students like.

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, socialism is not fair to the

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 3>producers and the people who work their tails off and yeah,

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 3>sacrifice sleep and all this stuff. So you are your

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 3>pastor and director of Patriot Mobile Faith. We love Patriot Mobile,

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 3>by the way, great capitalist company, great success story, all

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 3>American success story. I want to talk about this distinction

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 3>because I have talked to Jack about what he meant

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 3>by that, and I'm assuming we're going to get to

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 3>it in Thought Crime this week, as well, which is

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 3>our Thursday streaming show.

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So for him, he was saying, yeah, I'm a national populist,

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:48.839
<v Speaker 3>which incorporates capitalism, right, But it's sort of a way

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 3>of saying, we're going to apply certain sensible regulations to

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 3>make sure that we're directing and incentivizing capital in the

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 3>country in ways that benefit the nation, right. So as

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 3>opposed to offshoring and hollowing out our industrial base and

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 3>shipping all the jobs off to China in exchange for

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 3>rubber trinkets that's going to end up in the trash

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 3>some day, We're actually going to incentivize through tax code regulation,

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 3>that companies invest here, that they hire American, that they

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 3>do things that are good for the American population. So,

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, Jack wrote a whole book hitting communism and

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 3>attacking communism by no means. I think it would be

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 3>a very unfair interpretation of his comments to say that

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 3>he was somehow against capitalism. But I do think that

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 3>this is a worthwhile debate to have, and I think

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 3>we're going to be having it ahead of twenty twenty

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:42.239
<v Speaker 3>eight about the right way to talk about capitalism. And

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 3>my concern and then the floralill be yours is that

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 3>if we don't do this, young people are so inundated

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 3>by this pro socialism message that they're going to say, well,

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't want the old way as it's been, and

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 3>this is a way to sort of filter that message

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 3>and thread the needle and say, hey, we're hearing your

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 3>concerns that the middle class work class is getting hammered

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 3>in some ways, especially when it comes to burritos and affordability,

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:08.360
<v Speaker 3>but we're not ditching capitalism. Your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I think when it gets down into the nitty gritty,

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 12>which is one of the reasons why you know, clipping

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 12>up something can be so destructive because you take something

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 12>out of context.

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:20.399
<v Speaker 5>Well, we do that with scripture too.

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 12>We take one verse out of context and we can

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 12>make it say whatever we want. And so I think

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 12>what we have to constantly go back to, unfortunately, is

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 12>defining terms. What do you mean when you say capitalists?

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 12>And if someone says, oh, you know, I'm.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Greedy, you know, money hungry, You're like, Okay, that's not

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 5>what I mean by capitalism.

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 12>I mean when capitalism I mean the economic structure in

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 12>which we value freedom of exchange, freedom of movement, you know, generosity,

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 12>all those things liberty, and so we have to we

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 12>have to define those terms and then juxtaposed to the

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:02.280
<v Speaker 12>other options. When when you're talking about you know, populism,

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:06.719
<v Speaker 12>then now we're like you said, threading a needle. Okay,

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 12>what do we mean by that? It's not anti capitalism,

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 12>but we're wanting to benefit our nation first. Well that's great,

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 12>and the America First movement has then taken that to

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 12>me and okay, America first, And now we have to

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 12>define do we mean America first or America only? Because

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 12>if we have this biblical foundation that we're talking about,

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 12>the Bible has a lot to say about the Church

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:31.839
<v Speaker 12>caring for orphans and widows, the good Samaritan caring for

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 12>your neighbor, and so as long as we mean America first,

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 12>like the analogy often given of the oxygen mask coming

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 12>down on the airplane and putting yours on first, because

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 12>if I'm incapacitated, I can't help my neighbor, I totally

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 12>agree with that. But if we're saying America only, that

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 12>we shouldn't be involved anywhere outside of our own borders,

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 12>well that's taking away the biblical principle of generosity and

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 12>kindness and loving your neighbor. So that's I kind of

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.760
<v Speaker 12>always find myself having to go back to redefining terms

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 12>that have been outlandishly used in the in personified to

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 12>mean one small definition capitalism means greed or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and David, I have a perfect example of this that,

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, pure unfettered capitalism. It can lead to excesses,

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 3>it can lead to bubbles, it can lead to monopolies.

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 3>This is why conservatives are re examining the legacy of

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.720
<v Speaker 3>somebody like Teddy Roosevelt, right, the famous trustbuster. He believed

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 3>that the monopolies that had developed during the Gilded Age

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:38.360
<v Speaker 3>has basically resulted in uh, you know, I guess, excessive

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 3>prices for consumers, excessive influence among a very elite oligarchy

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 3>that had developed, whether that be economic influence or political influence.

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.879
<v Speaker 3>And so he broke up some of those companies and there,

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, there are benefits that could be had from

0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 3>those types of things. Now, another limit that we put

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 3>on capital is immigration. Right, Big businesses would love to

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 3>flood the nation with unfettered mass migration of Third worlders

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 3>and cheap slave labor, and we have rejected that at

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 3>the ballot box when we elected President Trump. Now that

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean that you have to be an absolutist on

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 3>any of those things, but it does mean that obviously

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 3>there are sensible things that you can do to regulate

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 3>or incentivize the movement of capital to best suit your

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:22.240
<v Speaker 3>national interests.

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 4>And I think I think it's actually worth emphasizing that

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 4>point that a friend of mine pointed out. I've been

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 4>talking to him about this, and he says, one of

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:32.840
<v Speaker 4>the better ways if you want to defend capitalism is

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 4>just really defend against all the other stuff they want.

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Because so many of the people who are complaining about capitalism,

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 4>they're actually totally in league with them on let's bring

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 4>in the entire third world here, So they'll actually concede

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 4>them that point and say, oh, actually, yeah, let's give

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 4>big business.

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:48.959
<v Speaker 9>What they want.

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 4>Endless migrant labor, endless slave labor, endless like literally illegal immigrants.

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 4>They actually just want to crash America, blow it up,

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 4>and we should be pointing that out and fighting against that.

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 4>And you really just get I think I think you

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 4>get capitalism almost as a side effect of it. You

0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 4>don't need to say we're shilling for business. You just

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 4>say we're rejecting all of these ideas that are clearly

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 4>motivated by people who hate America and want to burn

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 4>it down.

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<v Speaker 12>I just think we're, as believers, were called to hold

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 12>the tension between oftentimes two incredibly unhealthy extremes, and media

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 12>often wants to push to the extremes. And we find

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.879
<v Speaker 12>Jesus often holding at tension between compassion and truth and

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 12>not having to sacrifice one for the other. And I

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 12>think we can do that with almost every debate. What's

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 12>the tension here because we're not going to go to

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 12>these extremes. It's actually more nuanced. But as a comedian said,

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 12>the new N word is nuanced. We don't want to

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.200
<v Speaker 12>talk about it, and it's like, no, we need to talk.

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 3>About a pastor Ecclesiastes seven eighteen. Whoever fears God will

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:55.520
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<v Speaker 3>Andrews sent you. Gonna talk about daylight saving time or

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 3>standard time. We're gonna have that debate. It's about to

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 3>not a debate. Standard time is superior. This is what

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 3>this is the problem with this debate. Everybody's so dug

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 3>into their ideological trenches.

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:08.320
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, but my trench is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>So without further ado, I'm I'm so excited about this.

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 3>So we have Sarah Kleiner joining us Welcome to the show, Sarah.

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give you a little bio here. You're the

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 3>creator of the my Circadian app. You're board certified and

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:26.439
<v Speaker 3>applied quantum biology by the American Naturopathic Medical Board. You've

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 3>spent over fifteen years of working one on one with

0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:33.400
<v Speaker 3>clients to optimize nutrition, lifestyle, and mindset. Your goal is

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 3>to shift the way we think about circadian rhythms, health, nutrition,

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and light so we can better integrate those into our life.

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:42.239
<v Speaker 3>And doesn't matter what stage of life or anything like that.

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.360
<v Speaker 3>So we're honored to have you. You come very highly

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 3>recommended by Alex Clark, who's our official MAHA expert around here.

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 3>So it's great to have you.

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:52.359
<v Speaker 13>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely so. Trump. President Trump wants permanent daylight saving time.

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Blake wants permanent standard time. What is the right answer?

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, the American Academy of Sleep Medicine and every

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 14>single circadian scientist that I have ever spoken with is

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 14>on the time of permanent standard time. That's the one

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 14>that aligns with our biological clock. We have mountains of

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 14>evidence to show how important it is for anxiety, depression, obesity.

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:23.800
<v Speaker 13>Heart health.

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 14>I mean we have the research available and I have

0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:30.879
<v Speaker 14>I saw the I guess it was a statement Trump

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 14>put out yesterday that Riley was kind of enough to

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 14>send me and kind of have looked through a lot

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 14>of that, and I have a lot of thoughts on

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 14>some of the things he said. There's there's some half

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 14>truths in there. But I'm definitely on team permanent standard time.

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 3>You and Blake are on the same team. So that

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 3>that means God's time man out and I have to

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 3>go a devil's advocate. I have to play at devil's

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 3>advocate here. So this is the quote from Trump. For

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.880
<v Speaker 3>many years, the vast majority of Americans have asked to

0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:59.239
<v Speaker 3>make daylight savings time permanent, but no administration has been

0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:00.800
<v Speaker 3>able to get it done till now. I'm proud to

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:03.840
<v Speaker 3>announce the House of Representatives has passed the bill and

0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:05.760
<v Speaker 3>it has now gone to the Senate for final approval.

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 3>People are sick and tired of having to change their

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 3>clocks twice a year. This we agree with, right.

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:14.399
<v Speaker 13>That the whole change the clocks, We agree with that.

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's he says, it's foolish, inconvenient in some cases,

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 3>very costly for cities and states, with watch towers and

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 3>hard to reach places. It costs millions of dollars. A

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:25.600
<v Speaker 3>recent case was made that it is also bad for

0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 3>your health and the anxiety it creates. Leading medical, crime,

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and economic studies have shown that ceasing the bi annual

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 3>time change, giving us one extra hour of natural sunlight

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.439
<v Speaker 3>in the evenings, will help decrease robbery and murder rates,

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:40.960
<v Speaker 3>reduce car accidents, et cetera, et cetera. So, okay, Devil's

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 3>advocate here. So Danny on our team grew up in

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the Upper Midwest. He says that on Standard time in

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 3>the winter, I believe I'm getting this right. Standard time

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 3>in the winter, it was basically it's like dark all

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:56.920
<v Speaker 3>all morning long. Or is that? Am I getting that right?

0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 4>This is what's so confusing about So it's because you're

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:01.720
<v Speaker 4>in the Upper Midwest, the days are shorter, and when

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 4>you're on Standard time, the sun is also going down

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 4>earlier in the evening.

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he basically does, he doesn't want more dark at

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 3>a certain time. I'm going to find his note here,

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 3>but he was he's very very open to this permanent

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 3>daylight saving We're on.

0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Permanent daylight saving time. The sun is going to rise

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 4>very late and very late. Yes, right, so this okay,

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 4>So here here's a let me, let me reboot. There

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 4>is a robbery issue.

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 3>So when you have it light later at night, there

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 3>is data to indicate that robberies decrease potentially as much

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<v Speaker 3>as like twenty five percent. So have you seen any

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<v Speaker 3>of that data and do you agree or disagree.

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<v Speaker 13>I've seen the data.

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<v Speaker 14>It's anywhere from seven percent to twenty seven percent. So

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<v Speaker 14>I'm definitely not going to refute that data. I don't

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<v Speaker 14>want to have anyone.

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:52.959
<v Speaker 13>Fact check me. That's that's data. However, this is.

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<v Speaker 14>Basically going from November to February, and it's from the

0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 14>hours of five pm to eight pm, and it's a

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:02.280
<v Speaker 14>it's a real trade off. What we do have is

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<v Speaker 14>we tried this in nineteen seventy four and within about

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<v Speaker 14>two months, the approval rate went from seventy nine percent

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<v Speaker 14>down to forty two percent because there were children being

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<v Speaker 14>killed at bus stops and people hated it so much.

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<v Speaker 13>They hated the dark mornings.

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<v Speaker 14>They thought they wanted it because it's kind of the

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<v Speaker 14>same thing happening again. Everyone, we're going to have this

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<v Speaker 14>extra hour and we're not really getting anything extra we

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<v Speaker 14>still have to deal with winter, which is a shorter

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 14>photo period.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, it's that's not being talked about.

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<v Speaker 14>And so what we're taking off the table is the

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<v Speaker 14>ability for millions of people to actually get the morning

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<v Speaker 14>light signal, which, as I've said, has robust data around

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<v Speaker 14>it that they need in order to avoid a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of health problems.

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<v Speaker 3>This is okay, So I did have it backwards, so

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<v Speaker 3>on standard time, if you do permanent standard time, it

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<v Speaker 3>will get light earlier during those winter months. Right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll say how it's been.

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<v Speaker 14>It'll just be how it's been because what we are

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<v Speaker 14>in right now is DST right. And then if the

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<v Speaker 14>clocks change, if we just continue with current the way

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<v Speaker 14>things are, then we'll do that falling back thing, and

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<v Speaker 14>then in the spring will spring forward. And it's when

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<v Speaker 14>Trump is saying there's health issues associated with the time change,

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<v Speaker 14>He's correct, But that is because we strip away that

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<v Speaker 14>hour and spring that's where we see the increase in

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<v Speaker 14>heart attack and stroke, cardiac events, mental health episodes, car accidents,

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<v Speaker 14>all of those things. So that is correct, but that

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<v Speaker 14>is because we're changing the time and taking an hour

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<v Speaker 14>from people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So if we just kept one or the other

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<v Speaker 3>we'd probably deal with some of these issues.

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<v Speaker 13>But we would love to just keep one right, just right.

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<v Speaker 3>But just your argument is that that morning sun is

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<v Speaker 3>really really important for health outcomes. So if you go

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<v Speaker 3>to same time, it gets like a little bit earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>So explain why that's so important. So you go, I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard people tell me that when it in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>you got it sort of expose your body to natural

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<v Speaker 3>sunlight to sort of kick your body into gear.

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<v Speaker 14>What is that about, Well, you have a master clock

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<v Speaker 14>in your brain that is essentially primarily signaled by light.

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<v Speaker 13>It's called the super chismatic nucleus. And when the eyes.

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<v Speaker 14>Get this signal from light, it signals every single sell

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<v Speaker 14>and organ system in your body, which also runs on

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<v Speaker 14>a circadian clock. Which is why in my practice I

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<v Speaker 14>have people reversing autoimmune conditions getting pregnant after failed fertility treatments.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm going to have a huge.

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<v Speaker 14>Bank of people who have reversed health issues by simply

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<v Speaker 14>doing this practice of going outside in the morning. So we,

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<v Speaker 14>like I said that the circadian research is robust here

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<v Speaker 14>and the argument I get because I've spoken out on

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<v Speaker 14>this a little bit on social media and gotten this

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<v Speaker 14>is one topic.

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<v Speaker 13>Whenever I talk about it online, people get so angry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's amazing, it's amazing. Correct camps. The camps are

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<v Speaker 3>firmly entrenched. You're right, you're waiting into to perilous waters.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, when you mess.

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<v Speaker 14>With people's time, you're messing with their life. It's very

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<v Speaker 14>personal to them. I just think that we're they don't

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<v Speaker 14>really understand how this works, because it's like I've heard

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<v Speaker 14>this old Indian proverb that says you're taking a blanket

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<v Speaker 14>and chopping, you know, tearing off the top part of

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<v Speaker 14>it and trying to sew it onto the bottom and say,

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<v Speaker 14>acting like it's better.

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<v Speaker 13>It's not.

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<v Speaker 14>Because if you don't get that signal in your eyes

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<v Speaker 14>in the morning, if you don't get enough brightness, you're

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<v Speaker 14>not clearing residual melotone in you are not resetting those

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<v Speaker 14>circadian clocks that influence your appetite, regulation, mood, all of

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<v Speaker 14>those things need that bright morning signal. So you might

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<v Speaker 14>get this extra hour, but guess what, you're going to

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<v Speaker 14>feel kind of depressed and be it risk for obesity

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<v Speaker 14>lethargy because you never got that proper wake up signal

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<v Speaker 14>that Again, the circadian science is pretty robust around this topic.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the sunrise.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I'm plugging in sunrise in different city on

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<v Speaker 4>January first, right now, and then add an hour.

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<v Speaker 9>If we were.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagining permanent daylight savings time, it would be you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have the sun come up in like Minneapolis until about

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<v Speaker 4>nine am if we were on permanent daylight savings time.

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<v Speaker 4>On this is January first, so one of the shorter

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<v Speaker 4>days of the year. It's about nine in Detroit. I

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<v Speaker 4>check to Bismarck, North Dakota, so that's at the far

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<v Speaker 4>western edge.

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<v Speaker 9>Of hunchy time. Nine to thirty a nine to thirty

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<v Speaker 9>sunrise there.

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<v Speaker 4>If we had permanent daylight savings time right now, it's

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<v Speaker 4>happening in the eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Out so people are already at work and there's no

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<v Speaker 3>sun and it's so bad.

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<v Speaker 9>One of the things that really makes this extreme.

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<v Speaker 4>School starts so early because they want to make it

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<v Speaker 4>so parents can take their kids to school and then

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<v Speaker 4>go in. So you'll have elementary kids getting up two

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<v Speaker 4>three hours before sunrise in these places so they can

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<v Speaker 4>go to school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it'll be dark at reschool at eight o'clock eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>The sun doesn't rise for another hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that is wild to think about. That's on day

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<v Speaker 3>permanent daylight savings. Yes, yeah, what does that do for children?

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<v Speaker 14>It's terrible for children. I mean, children need the sunlight signal.

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<v Speaker 14>It's so incredibly important for their hormones, for their brain.

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<v Speaker 14>The number one treatment for anxiety and depression is bright

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<v Speaker 14>light therapy upon waking. So that is very established research.

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<v Speaker 14>And so we already have a depression and anxiety and

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<v Speaker 14>mental health crisis going on with our children due to

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<v Speaker 14>so many factors. I'm sure we would agree on. I've

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<v Speaker 14>got two kids myself, and now we're going to strip

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<v Speaker 14>away the ability for them to get that bright light signal,

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<v Speaker 14>which could potentially offset some of the negative impact of

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<v Speaker 14>what they're already up against as a as a generation.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yeah, I mean, it just feels like we're making

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<v Speaker 3>the right choice in the sense that we're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of this pesky clock change, which seems I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like everybody's basically against that. And I would

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<v Speaker 3>love to hear your thoughts out in the audience. Send

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<v Speaker 3>us an email Freedom at Charliekirk dot com if you

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<v Speaker 3>have any questions as well. What do you think you'd

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<v Speaker 3>prefer permanent daylight saving time or permanent standard time, A

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<v Speaker 3>little lighter in the morning or a little lighter at night,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the question. Sounds like we need that let light

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<v Speaker 3>signal early in the morning, which is something I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>about and I actually have tried it and just stood

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<v Speaker 3>out there and tried to get sun in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>and you do kind of feel it. You feel revived

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<v Speaker 3>in an awake a little bit faster. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>tell us about your my circadian app, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I've been coaching people in this circadian health space

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<v Speaker 14>for the last number of years after actually having my

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<v Speaker 14>own miracle baby in my mid forties and he's three now,

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<v Speaker 14>so I'm really passionate about this. Yeah, thank you awesome

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<v Speaker 14>little boy, and circadian lifestyle helped make that possible. And

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<v Speaker 14>so I wanted an app that helped people understand when

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<v Speaker 14>sunrise happened for them. When UVA, which we were talking

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<v Speaker 14>a little bit about this morning light UVA is when

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<v Speaker 14>you're making serotonin, dopamine, beta endorphin, these appetite hormones all

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<v Speaker 14>come online, and I wanted them to understand when that

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<v Speaker 14>was as well as when they could make vitamin D

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<v Speaker 14>because you can't make it year round, and then measure lux.

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<v Speaker 13>Which is this most well studied measurement of light. The

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<v Speaker 13>app has a lux meter in it.

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<v Speaker 14>You want to get a ten thousand lux threshold in

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<v Speaker 14>the morning, and you want to keep your lux below

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<v Speaker 14>ten at night the three hours leading up to bed

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<v Speaker 14>and zero in your bedroom, so you can measure that

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<v Speaker 14>and that's going to really help you keep your circadian

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<v Speaker 14>rhythms dialed in. And you kind of have it there

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<v Speaker 14>in your pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's great. So why would it affect fertility?

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<v Speaker 14>I'm just curious, oh man, Because, like I said, every

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<v Speaker 14>single cell and organ system in your body is impacted

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<v Speaker 14>by the signal of light. Your hormones run on a

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<v Speaker 14>circadian rhythm, and that morning sunlight signal is incredibly important for.

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<v Speaker 13>What we call the HPA axis, which is.

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<v Speaker 14>Going to signal your master hormone pregnant alone to talk

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<v Speaker 14>to the other sex hormones. So if you're not making

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<v Speaker 14>these hormones, especially in the morning, you're going to deal

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<v Speaker 14>with fertility issues.

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<v Speaker 13>And then we have the issue at night. It was

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<v Speaker 13>women used to actually cycle with the moon.

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<v Speaker 14>We have some really interesting data that came out in

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<v Speaker 14>around twenty ten that showed women stopped cycling. Actually that

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<v Speaker 14>the research came out in twenty twenty two. It was

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<v Speaker 14>done in twenty ten that showed women cycled with the

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<v Speaker 14>moon up until that time. What happened in twenty ten

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<v Speaker 14>we all got smartphones and so women fell out of sync.

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<v Speaker 14>Their menstrual cycles became irregular in twenty ten because of

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<v Speaker 14>this artificial light at night issue that we all have now.

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<v Speaker 3>So wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, So smartphones broke

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<v Speaker 3>women's menstrual cycles.

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<v Speaker 13>It's a thing.

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<v Speaker 14>It's a thing.

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<v Speaker 13>There's been books written on this topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Kidding. Wait, So just because women are like scrolling Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>at night that broke their cycles.

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<v Speaker 14>I have women reverse hot flashes when I get them

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<v Speaker 14>to get off the dang phone at night.

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<v Speaker 9>Women.

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<v Speaker 3>If a woman wants to get pregnant and she just

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<v Speaker 3>wants to make sure everything's you know, her circadian rhythms

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<v Speaker 3>are right, what time do you recommend stop you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stopping this rolling.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean the science is ten lucks and below the

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<v Speaker 14>three hours leading up to bedtime.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got ten lucks off your cell phone screen,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you turn it all the way dark.

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<v Speaker 14>And you get the blue light. Yeah, you get blue light,

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<v Speaker 14>you get that lux I mean, and that is enough

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<v Speaker 14>to keep the brain making cortisol and restart kickstart that

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<v Speaker 14>sex steroid hormone pathway at night, which is the opposite

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<v Speaker 14>of what we want. We want malatona to come in

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<v Speaker 14>because melatonin is actually a very reproductive, powerful reproductive hormone.

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<v Speaker 14>It's actually a very powerful hormone for cancer prevention. I

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<v Speaker 14>mean so many things that if you look at the

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<v Speaker 14>data with artificial light at night.

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<v Speaker 13>And cancer, you will be astounded. I mean, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Robust and a way a lot of people have tried

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with a certainly on large computers, they'll get

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<v Speaker 4>blue light filters so that you know, it basically makes

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<v Speaker 4>their screen orange at night.

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<v Speaker 9>I know, I definitely have.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen women they'll get.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they get kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>These spectacles that are supposed to filter.

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<v Speaker 9>Out blue light whatever. They're not glad, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not for vision correction like me or even And

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<v Speaker 4>I imagine you can probably get a similar app for

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<v Speaker 4>your phone. Does that do enough or is that just

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<v Speaker 4>sort of putting a band aid over it that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>do that much and you're better just not using it

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<v Speaker 4>at all.

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<v Speaker 13>It helps.

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<v Speaker 14>It absolutely helps, And that's why I have that luxmeter

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<v Speaker 14>within the app, because you can have to use your

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<v Speaker 14>partner's phone to measure what's coming off your phone. Keep

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<v Speaker 14>it below ten, turn your blue light filter on where

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<v Speaker 14>you're blue blockers.

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<v Speaker 13>That's going to help.

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<v Speaker 14>But the other thing that can keep your brain making

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<v Speaker 14>cortisol is the brain waves that you're going to essentially

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<v Speaker 14>make from being on your phone. You're going to stay

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<v Speaker 14>in a high beta state, which can also block melotone in.

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<v Speaker 14>So there's a fine line you have to walk with it.

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<v Speaker 14>When I want people to be compliant, I'm going to say,

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<v Speaker 14>get the blue blockers, turn the dimness down on your phone,

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<v Speaker 14>measure it good red.

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<v Speaker 13>Light bulbs in your home. That's going to help tremendously.

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<v Speaker 14>But at the end of the day, I want you

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<v Speaker 14>powered down and sleeping so you can make all that

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<v Speaker 14>melatone at night and reap those health benefitts.

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<v Speaker 3>So what about so I know everybody's I know you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna tell me I'm doing it wrong, and that's probably fair.

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<v Speaker 3>I watch TV at night before I go to bed,

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<v Speaker 3>or I read a book, so it's one or the two,

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<v Speaker 3>and I try and do more reading it admitted like,

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<v Speaker 3>for years I was like not reading, I was watching TV,

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<v Speaker 3>and now I'm about seventy percent of the time, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>reading a book before I go to bed, but the

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<v Speaker 3>wife and I will watch a show together or something,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, put the kids down. How bad is that?

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to just like calk out like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem to affect me. But how bad is that? And

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<v Speaker 3>am I doing it wrong?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, the great thing I love about the app is

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<v Speaker 14>that you can take your blue blockers, put them over

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<v Speaker 14>the lens and measure at eye level. Because I like

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<v Speaker 14>to watch a show every Sunday night right now this on,

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<v Speaker 14>I like one show a week. I let myself do that.

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<v Speaker 14>So I'll sit from where I'm at on my couch,

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<v Speaker 14>measure the lux I'll have my blue blockers on, and

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<v Speaker 14>I can typically get even my TV down to about

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<v Speaker 14>six lucks without doing anything.

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<v Speaker 13>So we're the blue blockers.

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<v Speaker 14>Watch your show every now and then stick to your

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<v Speaker 14>seventy percent reading, and you're going to be ahead of

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<v Speaker 14>most people.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but you said the brain waves though, even aren't

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<v Speaker 3>you still having some of those brain waves that are

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<v Speaker 3>keeping you up with reading?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it's a it's a trade off. I mean it

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<v Speaker 14>depends on what you're reading, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Reading about English history, I mean, is it better to

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<v Speaker 3>read really trashy novels or something that are like low

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<v Speaker 3>brain effort versus I don't know, philosophy.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean it's really dependent on the person.

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<v Speaker 14>I think you'd probably be fine with philosophy or history

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<v Speaker 14>rather than you know, murder mysteries or some of the

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<v Speaker 14>trashy novels people like to read that might get you

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<v Speaker 14>upset or emotional.

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<v Speaker 13>You're probably safe with what you're reading in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, you know, we're just not thinking about light.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because you think about ancient man, right, like

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<v Speaker 3>not even ancient man, just pre electricity man, it was

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, you had you had candles or you

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<v Speaker 3>had little oil lamps. I mean that was essentially your

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<v Speaker 3>light at night and it kind of forced you to

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<v Speaker 3>go to bed with the rhythm of the sun. So

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<v Speaker 3>your whole body is oriented around this. It's just we

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<v Speaker 3>don't observe it anymore because we have electricity, we have

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<v Speaker 3>artificial light. How much I mean, how much of our

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<v Speaker 3>modern health because I know there's so many areas of health,

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<v Speaker 3>but how much of our modern health do you think

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<v Speaker 3>is actually tied in our problems are tied to this

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<v Speaker 3>light issue.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh so much. Look into doctor Glenn Jeffery. Look at

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<v Speaker 14>his research on the mitochondria. Since you guys are talking

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<v Speaker 14>to mitochondria, look at how red light and near infrared

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<v Speaker 14>impacts mitochondria positive and blue light specifically impacts mitochondria negative.

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<v Speaker 14>And our indoor environments are completely devoid of red and

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<v Speaker 14>infrared light since we got rid of the incandescent bold

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<v Speaker 14>and we are in these blue rich heavy environments that

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<v Speaker 14>are actually slowing down mitochondria, slowing down our metabolism, and

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<v Speaker 14>it's created He's likened it to asbestos.

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<v Speaker 3>What what lightbulbs do you recommend we get at.

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<v Speaker 13>Home infrared if you can get him, incandescent are always.

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<v Speaker 9>Going to be the best.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a really fascinating conversation. I loved it. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>you guys get it home too. Thanks or time forever. Yes, yeah,

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