1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the city that Never sleeps. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Salem Medium. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Is a man also not sleeping, and the Color and 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: that guy would like a word with you. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Many of you know him from as Looks for Damas. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: Of course, that Kevin Show is going to be great. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 4: The only thing that could be greater, of course, would 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 4: be that Donald Show, but we don't have that. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: So we have That Kevin Show featuring the music of 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: Dick Tuney and the Dream. 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 5: In Color Orchestraw. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 4: Straight a him. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Everything you need to know about the top headlines of 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: the day and a perspective that will give you some 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: externity to it, plus practical tips for family life, spiritual life, 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: and good old regular life. It's count on McCollough Monday 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: through Friday. 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 6: On That Kevin Show. 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: And now from the Connors and Sullivan Broadcast Studios. A 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: man who is not what he wants to be, but 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: is way grateful that is not who he used to be. 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 5: Here all right. 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Welcome in, Kevin mccallough. Glad to have you with us. 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: It is a well, it's a sunny day in New York, 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: though it's full. We were hoping for the fifties. You know, 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: it's in the low thirties. It's just one of those 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: weird spring days where you think it's going to be 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: warm and it doesn't look anything like it. But having 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: said that, it's warm in my heart knowing that you're 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: here and that we can help think through the biggest 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: stories and issues of the day together for the next 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: couple of hours. We call it that Kevin Show. That 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Kevinshow dot com is where you go to get the podcast, 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: the everything that I talk about. And I'm very excited 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: about today's column, by the way, and it's it's timely, 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: but it's not necessarily newsy. Sometimes I write about other 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: things that pop into my mind, and I have a 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of things that pop into my mind and have 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: in recent days. There are stories that entertain, and then 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: there are stories that just confront you with all kinds 41 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: of conviction and truth. And the life of Saint Patrick 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: does not to me belong in the shallow end of 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: cultural celebration. I know today there's going to be green 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: beer and plastic hats and parades that forget all the point, 45 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: but his life is something far more unsettling, because Saint 46 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: Patrick didn't just survive evil, he went back to it. 47 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: At sixteen, he was stolen from his home, ripped from 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: his family, dragged across the sea, forced into slavery in 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: a land that was not his own. He was not Irish. 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Ireland was not then the land of saints and scholars. 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: It was wild and tribal and dangerous. And he spent 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: years alone, cold, hungry, forgotten, tending sheep on hills that 53 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: did not care if he lived or died. And yet 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: it was there that something happened, not comfort, not rescue. Faith. 55 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: In his own words, Patrick writes that he began to 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: pray constantly, dozens, even hundreds of times a day, not 57 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: because he was religious, but because he was desperate. And 58 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: in that desperation he discovered something that many of us, 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: with all our conveniences and comforts, rarely ever grasp, dependence 60 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: not on strength, not on strategy, not on self, but 61 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: dependence on Christ. Years later, he would pin what has 62 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: become one of the most enduring declarations of Christian devotion. 63 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me, Christ 64 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right, Christ 65 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: on my left. It was not poetry pen for Instagram 66 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: it was the language of survival. Eventually, Patrick escaped, against 67 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: all odds, he made at home. The nightmare was over, 68 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: the trauma behind him. The door to a normal life, safe, familiar, 69 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: deserved was wide open. And this is where the story 70 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: totally stops making sense, because instead of moving on, he 71 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: turned around. He chose to go back back to the 72 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: place of his pain, back to the people who enslaved him, 73 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: back to the land that had taken everything from him. 74 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Why because the same Christ who met him in the 75 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: valley was now calling him to walk back into the 76 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: same valley. That's the part of the story we don't 77 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: celebrate enough because it demands something of us. We live 78 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: in a culture obsessed with escape. Get out, move on, 79 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: cut ties, protect your peace, build your brand, avoid the 80 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: hard places and even the harder people. But Patrick did 81 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: the opposite. He walked toward them, not with revenge in 82 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: his heart, but was redemption on his lips. He returned 83 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: not as a victim, but as a witness. And in 84 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: doing so, he didn't just change his own story, he 85 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: changed an entire nation's trajectory. Ireland would never be the same. 86 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: Here's the uncomfortable truth. Most of us want comfort of 87 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: faith without the cost of obedience. We love the idea 88 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: of Christ before me when it means guidance and blessing 89 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: and provision. But what happens when Christ before Me leads 90 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: us somewhere We would never choose on our own when 91 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: I need a perspective bigger than my pain. That's not 92 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: safe faith, that's dangerous faith, the kind that transforms not 93 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: just individuals, but whole cultures. We don't know what conversations 94 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: Patrick had when he first stepped back into Iris, onto 95 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Irish soil. We don't know what memories came flooding back, 96 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: what fears tried to take hold, what doubts whispered in 97 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: the quiet, But we know this he didn't turn back again. 98 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: He stayed, He preached, he loved, he forgave, and slowly, steady, impossibly, 99 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: hearts began to change. This Saint Patrick's day, the world 100 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: will celebrate with noise. But Patrick's life was built in silence, 101 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: on lonely hillsides, in whispered prayers, in the unseen decisions 102 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: of obedience that no one applauded until everyone did. The 103 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: question his life leaves us with is not whether we'll 104 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: wear green or orange. It's whether We'll walk where Christ leads, 105 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: even when it costs us, even when it takes us 106 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: back into places we swore we'd never go back to, 107 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: even when forgiveness feels impossible and obedience feels unreasonable. Because 108 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: the same Christ who stands before us is the one 109 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: who stands within us. And if Patrick's life proves anything, 110 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: it proves this. You don't need perfect circumstances to change 111 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the world. If you're waiting on them, you'll never get them. 112 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: They will never come, It will never be the perfect time. 113 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Perfect circumstances are a carot that is chased. They are 114 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: an imagination that does not come true. They don't exist 115 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: in our timeline, they don't exist in history's timeline. And 116 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Patrick's life proved that you don't need them to change 117 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: the world. You need a surrendered heart Christ before me. 118 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: It's not just a phrase. It's a direction, and for 119 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: those who are willing to follow it, it leads you 120 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: to a life that echoes far beyond a single day 121 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: in the month of March. Kevin McCullough, if you would 122 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: like to know more about that Christ, send me an 123 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: email that Kevin Show at gmail dot com. If we 124 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: don't do anything else, at this microphone. If we never 125 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: accomplish the passing of one piece of legislation, if we don't, 126 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: if we don't do anything else here, I'm okay with that. 127 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: I want you to know the Christ that goes before 128 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: and the Christ who comes behind, the Christ who is 129 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: in me, the Christ who is under the steps that 130 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: I take. He's beneath me, he's above me. He's on 131 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: my right and my left. I want you to know 132 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: him too. That Kevin Show at gmail dot com. If 133 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: you want to know more about how, that Kevin Show 134 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com, That Kevin Show at gmail dot com, 135 00:09:48,400 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: stay with us, a very full eye straight here. 136 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 7: He is from New York, That Kevin Kevin McCulla. 137 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: All right, Kevin mccallough, Glad to have you with us. 138 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: It's the Tuesday edition of How Do We Live? And 139 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: that Kevin Show. Everything is at that kevinshow dot com, 140 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: including the podcast, my daily column at town Hall, the 141 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: TV show, whatever you want, it's all there. We don't 142 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: put it behind anything that you have to pay for 143 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: because we just want you to have access to it 144 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: and we want it to impact your life. And we 145 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: ask this question each day, how do we live? How 146 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: do we live in a culture that hates God? Actually, 147 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: that may be an overstatement. They may manipulate God. They 148 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: may say that the God of their universe, their truth, 149 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: is someone that they can have, and he's a happy person, 150 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: and they put him in his pocket and wherever they 151 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: go they want a little happy God stuff, they take 152 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: him out. But then you attach God, the concept of 153 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: God to the Bible, and that's where the real problem is, 154 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: because the Bible tells us what God's heart is and 155 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: where it's at. So how do we live in a 156 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: culture that despises those two things and then kind of 157 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: looks at us as like the cross eyed cousin because 158 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: we claim an allegiance to those things. Does that have 159 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: any impact on who we're supposed to be? I would 160 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: argue that scripture says no. Here to discuss a lot 161 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: of this with us this week is one of our 162 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: very special friends, Pastor Alan Jackson. He's heard nationwide on 163 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: the Salem Radio Network and he's heard a lot of 164 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: the same markets that I'm heard on. You may get 165 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: me on the same station, you may get me on 166 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: the news talk station, and he would be on the 167 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: teaching station. But he's also on the TBN Network Television 168 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: every night with Alan Jackson Now, and he's also got 169 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: a podcast, Culture and Christianity. But he's written this new book, 170 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: Lead with Faith, just out a few days ago, Using 171 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: your influence for God's Purposes. Allen, For the next four 172 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: days counting today, we're going to break down this idea 173 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: kind of concept by concept. What does leading with Faith 174 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: look like? What are we talking about today? 175 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 8: Well, I think the next step in this progression of 176 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 8: expanding our influence is we kind of have to recognize 177 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 8: the elephant in the room. Most of us feel like 178 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 8: we're not qualified to lead. Like the people that do 179 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 8: feel qualified make me a little anxious. 180 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Because the chat is if the guy's always raising his hand, 181 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: pick pick me, maybe not the right mindset towards it. 182 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 8: I think you're right, but there's some things that take 183 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 8: root in our heart and I don't think they're accurate. 184 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 8: And we all have to wrestle with these. You know, 185 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 8: you know I don't have the right resources, or I 186 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 8: don't have enough influence, or. 187 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: I don't have the gifts. 188 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 8: If I had the gifts that I know somebody else has, 189 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 8: it'd be easier for me. Or I've got too much 190 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 8: baggage in my life. 191 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: And you know, all those things are true. 192 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 8: We don't have all the things that we would need 193 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 8: to impact our world, but the one we worship and 194 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 8: the one we serve and the one whom we represent. 195 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 8: Does you know Mike Huckaby is a friend of mine. 196 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 8: And I knew Mike Huckabee when he had a television 197 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 8: show and he was an ex governor. And all of 198 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 8: a sudden, the President of the United States tapped him 199 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 8: and said, I want you to be an ambassador for 200 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 8: the United States to the nation of Israel. And Mike's 201 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 8: life changed, his status changed, his authority changed, his role 202 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 8: in the world changed. Well, the creator of Heaven and 203 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 8: Earth tapped every one of us and said, I want 204 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 8: you to be an ambassador for my kingdom and your generation. 205 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 8: So now it wasn't about Mike's resources or Mike's education. 206 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 8: He was an ambassador for the United States of America. Well, 207 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 8: we're ambassadors for the Kingdom of Almighty God. So it 208 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 8: isn't about my resources or my education or even my failures. 209 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 8: And I have some of those in my life, and 210 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 8: we've got to wrestle it. We can't let the enemy 211 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 8: sideline us because of the things we're not because the 212 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 8: invitation that's been given to us is by someone far 213 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 8: more powerful than the advassary that is trying to discourage us. 214 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that that's an easy thing to miss, 215 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: especially if we're not getting like good teaching on a 216 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: regular basis, and a reminder if somebody has been wrestling 217 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: with that. What does scripture tell us about how we 218 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: should view ourselves in light of that? 219 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 8: Well, there's a verse that's a favorite of mine. It's 220 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 8: in Hebrews chapter twelve. And we've just come out of 221 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 8: the Hebrews eleven is the kind of the Hall of Fame. 222 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 8: It's all these men and women and the remarkable exploits 223 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 8: of the Kingdom of God. And we get to Hebrews 224 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 8: chapter twelve. It says, now let us run with perseverance 225 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 8: the race marked on for us. But the second verse 226 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 8: says that God is the author and the finisher of 227 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 8: our faith. And then that's helpful to me because he's 228 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 8: the initiator. He knew me when I was being knit 229 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 8: together in my mother's womb. He's aware of all of 230 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 8: my inatdequisies, in shortcomings, but he's the of the story 231 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 8: and when you write a book, you have the phrase 232 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 8: is poetic license. I can keep writing the ending till 233 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 8: I get it the way I like it. And so 234 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 8: the reality is I take some detours and make some 235 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 8: knuckleheaded decisions. But God's the finisher of my story. And 236 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 8: because of the redemptive power of the Cross and what 237 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 8: Jesus has done for us, I have been delivered. I've 238 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 8: been forgiven. I have been made a totally new creation. 239 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 8: And that's not an excuse for sloppy living, but it 240 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 8: means I'm not anchored to the disappointments and the brokenness 241 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 8: of my life. So if the enemy is reminding you 242 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 8: of your shortcomings or the lack of your education, or 243 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 8: whatever he's accusing you with, we need to be more 244 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 8: aware that God's the finisher of my story. And if 245 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 8: God puts an invitation before me, He'll be giving me 246 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 8: everything I need to accomplish. It won't mean it to 247 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 8: be easy, right, God said Samuel, denying David to be king, 248 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 8: But he didn't remove Saul from the throne, which meant 249 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 8: David had several years of some really difficult things to overcome. 250 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 8: I mean, he told Abraham he had to leave home 251 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 8: to find his purposes for his life. But Abraham was 252 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 8: decades getting across the finish line on what God had 253 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 8: for him. And so don't imagine that leading with your 254 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 8: faith and serving the Lord's going to be easy. In fact, 255 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 8: if it's not easy. 256 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: You're probably on the right track. 257 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 8: But the author of your faith, the initiator of that invitation, 258 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 8: is also the completer. And that is such a powerful, 259 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 8: powerful message for all of us to remember. 260 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: It seems to me, Pastor that that this aspect of 261 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: what we're talking about leading with faith, and you can 262 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: read the entire book, friends, Lead with faith using your 263 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: influence for God's purposes. It's out now, came out on 264 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: March shape. It seems to me that it doesn't take 265 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: a lot to go too far in my own confidence 266 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: and skills and thoughts that I'm good and I'm kind 267 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: of helping God out with his or to slide off 268 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: the other way and feel like it's all too enormous 269 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: for me. Staying on alignment and staying in proper humility 270 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: and gratitude, but staying hungry and staying active and staying 271 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, motivated, it seems that the key to it. 272 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: So it doesn't become pride, and it doesn't become you know, 273 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: this intimidation is the key to it is aligning myself 274 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: with God's purpose and the need for that has to 275 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: come from a relationship with Him. The I don't know 276 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: if I'm on the target, if I keep taking my 277 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: eyes off of the target, you understand what I'm saying. 278 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: I think. 279 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 8: So there's a temptation, and I think it's particularly true 280 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 8: in men. 281 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: But I know women aren't immune. 282 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 8: But men come to me and they'll say to me, 283 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 8: you know, what book do I. 284 00:17:59,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: Need to read? 285 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 8: They want to master their faith like they have mastered 286 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 8: bass fishing. 287 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: Or tennis, and it's you. 288 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: Know, tell me what I need to know. 289 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 8: Give me the sixth Essential Truths or the Four Keys 290 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 8: or the book. And really what we're talking about, I 291 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 8: think is more of a life commitment that emerges from 292 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 8: a desire to honor God. And that is an ever 293 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 8: changing emerging because difference. It's like it's a marriage, or 294 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 8: it's parenting, or I like gardening as an example, you know, 295 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 8: it's a biblical example and First Corinthians, Paul talks about that. 296 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 8: He said, I planted a seed. 297 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: And Apolus watered it. 298 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 8: My dad was a veterinarian, so I grew up in 299 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 8: kind of a rural setting and we would have gardens 300 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 8: and the beginning of the year springtime, you have to 301 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 8: break up the ground and get the ground ready to 302 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 8: receive the seeds, and that's a skill set that goes 303 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 8: without a certain kind of effort. Then you monitor that 304 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 8: product through the growing season. Then when it's harvest time, 305 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 8: that's a whole different kind of skill set and workload. 306 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 8: You can't do the same thing every day and think 307 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 8: you're going to have a healthy crop. And Christians, I think, 308 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 8: you know, we're looking for a way to fix it. 309 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 8: So I don't have to think about it anymore. I 310 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 8: don't have to really pay any attention to it. I 311 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 8: just want to put it on autopilot. And an important 312 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 8: step in this is being willing to say to the Lord, 313 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 8: I want to know you today. You know, my moods 314 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 8: are different every day. Pray for the people that work 315 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 8: with me because they have to adapt to. 316 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: How I am today. 317 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 8: And as much as I try to be consistent, I 318 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 8: know I'm not the same every day. And I want 319 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 8: to get to know the Lord at different times, different seasons, 320 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 8: different assignments, and that means I constantly get. 321 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: To learn and change and emerge. 322 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 8: And I'm not perfect and I'm always learning. I'm like 323 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 8: the little kid that's trying to learn to walk. I 324 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 8: fall down a lot and I have to get back up. 325 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 8: But I love the journey. And that's what I want 326 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 8: to invite your listeners to is, let's decide to go 327 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 8: serve the Lord with joy and excitement and enthusiasm. 328 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: You won't be disappointed. No, I will attest that investing 329 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: in that relationship never has a downside. It's almost like 330 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: a marriage. If you invest in your marriage, you're seldom 331 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: going to have a downside, But if you invest in 332 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: your relationship with Jesus, You'll never have a downside. Pastor 333 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Alan Jackson is is our guest this week. He is 334 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: sharing with us from his book Lead with Faith, Using 335 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: your influence for God's purposes. And tomorrow we will take 336 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: up just another kind of leg to the table of 337 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: all of this as we are going through our week. 338 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: But Pastor Allen, thank you for being here and we'll 339 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. Absolutely, Kevin Calvin mccallaugh coming right back 340 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: from Times Square. I don't go anywhere. 341 00:20:48,240 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 4: Let's stick around for more of that. Kevin. Next here 342 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: he is from New York. That Kevin, Kevin McCullough, John, 343 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: can it be? 344 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 9: She prays that God helped her to give them at 345 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 9: least one more day of food. 346 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: So it's a daily prayer. 347 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, friends, but when I hear 348 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: that little baby in the backdrop just doing the little coops, 349 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: it's like, it's so uh, it's it's so endearing, it's 350 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: so charming. And then and then it hits you that 351 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: an hell is talking about a mother who may not 352 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: be able to feed that baby today, and she's praying 353 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: for one more day's worth of food. That's what we're 354 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: trying to end in the current campaign that we're doing 355 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: with Food for the Poor. Danny Petito is back with 356 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough and we are talking about the opportunity to 357 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: feed that child or one just like it, who has 358 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: food and security for a gift of only seventy five 359 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: dollars for the entire year two meals a day. It's 360 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: more than seven hundred and seventy meals something like that 361 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: for the coming year, and being able to do so 362 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: so economically. I don't know if you've done the math 363 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: on that, but that's an incredibly inexpensive meal, and yet 364 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: it'll be everything that that child needs to be healthy. 365 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Patino is back with us. Danny, I hear that, 366 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: and I hear the baby, and it's like, you know, 367 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: there's just a dad part of me that just can't 368 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: get away from you know, how can we let something 369 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: so innocent, someone so little, go hungry. It's just it's inconceivable. 370 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 10: I'm a dad of two myself. One is turning eight 371 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 10: coming weeks, and the little one it's three, and she's 372 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 10: just as fast as the eight year old. And I 373 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 10: want to take you to the perspective of Beatrice that 374 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 10: we just heard. 375 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: There. 376 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 10: There's prayers for health, there's prayers for safety, there's prayers 377 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 10: for prosperity, and then there are prayers that you just 378 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 10: heard there that just it breaks your heart because that's 379 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 10: a prayer from one more day of food, and that 380 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 10: becomes the entire horizon. That's their reality right now. I 381 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 10: can't pray for anything else than just one more meal, 382 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 10: one more meal to come in any way possible, from 383 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 10: a neighbor, from a food center, from a pastor that 384 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 10: just comes to the door. And I'm here for you. 385 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 10: I've listened to your prayers. You are not alone. And 386 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 10: those are the moments that we love to have here 387 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 10: at Food for the Poor because it comes from the 388 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 10: generosity of your audience, and I followed that journey of 389 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 10: that gift right It comes in as a small donation 390 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 10: and it becomes a big, big change in these families' lives. 391 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 10: This is that one little push that some of these 392 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 10: families need to finally get back out of that cycle 393 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 10: of poverty and transform their lives for the better. 394 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: And if for the children, it's a whole new world. 395 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 10: They become children again, they get to focus on playing, 396 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 10: not necessarily having to stay indoors because the tummy aches 397 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 10: are just the body is not responding from malnutrition or 398 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 10: dirty water that usually happens in these communities that we serve, 399 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 10: the waters that just make them sick, even if they 400 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 10: try to boil it or they try to treat it. 401 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 10: And those are the changes that we're going on right now, 402 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 10: and that's through the generosity of your audience. 403 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: Eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three 404 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: is where you call to give your gift. We're talking 405 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: about children in the poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere, 406 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: one of the poorest countries in the world, Haiti another 407 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: one of the poorest countries in the world, Guatemala, another 408 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: one of the poorest countries in the world, Honduras. We're 409 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: talking about true systemic poverty that these children and Danny 410 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to it's hard to describe to someone who's 411 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: never been there to see it for themselves. But when 412 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: we think of the distended bellies, when we think of 413 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: the orange hair, when we think of the the the 414 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of misshapen ways we've seen kids in some of 415 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: these places, there is a reason why the body has 416 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: done all of that. It's trying to protect itself from 417 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: the natural effects of malnutrition. And so this is this 418 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: is what happens. It begins in an essence, feeding on 419 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: itself over a period of time. And that's why we 420 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: need carbohydrates, we need proteins, we need all of the 421 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: little vitamins that come with that, and we need it 422 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: to be in a regular supply on a regular basis, 423 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: And that's how the body not only sustains, but when 424 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: you're talking about children, actually helps them grow and friends, 425 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: these are these are these are children coming from families 426 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: that do not make well, Danny, how much does the 427 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: average family make that Food for the Poor has help with. 428 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 10: We're talking about less than two dollars a day. We've 429 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 10: seen that as just it's not enough. It's not enough 430 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 10: to feed anyone on a daily basis, nor keep a home. 431 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 10: And most of these families that we spoke to, they 432 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 10: have to travel for work. It's not like they go 433 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 10: next door or they're going down right, So there's two 434 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 10: things that happen there. One of the parents is in 435 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 10: home most of the day because they have to go 436 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 10: out and work. 437 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 3: And the other one is the distance. 438 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 10: Some families we've spoken to they have to grab a bus, 439 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 10: get on another tuck tuck or the little taxis that 440 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 10: look like motorcycles, jump on another transportation and all those 441 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 10: cost There is cost involved one way and coming back. 442 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 10: So the finally, and if it rains, you can guess 443 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 10: there is no work and that equals to no money 444 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 10: on the no money in your pocket, no food on 445 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 10: the table. So that's why we heard Beatrice at the 446 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 10: beginning of the segment. Here we heard are just for 447 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 10: not praying for a miracle, but praying that ordinary comes about, right, 448 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 10: the normal for what we take for granted is their normal, 449 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 10: and that's why we're that's what we're fighting for the 450 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 10: basis of life, of what we're calling here food for 451 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 10: the poor on this day of hope with you. It's 452 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 10: it's the basics of life, which is food and clean water, 453 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 10: and that's all they're praying for right now. And that's 454 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 10: what you can step into the reality of these families 455 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 10: right now with your one time gift and it's a 456 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 10: world of change for these families. 457 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're coming to the rescue as the best 458 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: we can right now. Eight five five nine zero seven 459 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: four six seven three. Every gift being doubled right now 460 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three. 461 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: Or text the word hunger to five one five five five, 462 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: or go to that kevinshow dot com and click the 463 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: banner at the top of the page eight five five 464 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: nine zero seven four six seven three eight five five 465 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: nine zero seven four six seven three that kevinshow dot com. 466 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: Or text hunger to five one five five five eight 467 00:27:45,359 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: five five nine zero seven four six seven three. 468 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: Here he is from New York. That Kevin McCullough. 469 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Times Square. Kevin McCullough, that Kevin Show, 470 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot com for everything. We don't put anything 471 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: behind a paywall because we want you to have access 472 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: to it. You know, I'm always tracking with the Campus 473 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: Reform Group weird stuff that's going on on the college campuses. 474 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: For lack of a better term, I don't know that 475 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: it gets much more strange than for students to be 476 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: chanting death to America on American university campuses. Here to 477 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: discuss is William Biagny, Campus Reform Assistant Editor. We have 478 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: reported a lot on Emily's reporting here, but William is 479 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: part of the group there as well. William explain this 480 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: how and where is this taking right? 481 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me on today. It's 482 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 6: great to be here. So we got this really crazy 483 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: story today. So for about five decades now, Iran has 484 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 6: been chanting death to America, but we're seeing this crazy 485 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 6: phenomenon where these chants are now making their way to 486 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 6: college campuses in the United States of America, which is 487 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 6: it's surprising to see that our universities which have been 488 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 6: training students up in radical leftist ideology, well now we 489 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 6: have students that are siding with the super repressive Islamic. 490 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: Regime in Iran. 491 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 6: So we have this one example at Columbia University where 492 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 6: an anti Israel group linked to that university. It's not 493 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 6: one hundred percent affiliated with university, but it's linked to. 494 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: It was channing mark Barr i'mrica, which is Farsi for 495 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 6: death to America. 496 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: We also have students at. 497 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 6: Yale University that we're photographed doing a protest with signs 498 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 6: using similar slogans. So we're starting to see students at 499 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 6: American universities channing the very same things that our foreign 500 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 6: adversaries are also chanting. 501 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: I see this as more important than yelling fire in 502 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: a crowded theater. We talk about freedom of speech, but 503 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: death to America. 504 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: Right, So here's the thing. 505 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 6: Our universities are supposed to be institutions where ideas are 506 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 6: thrown back and forth in the pursuit of truth. They're 507 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 6: not supposed to be what they are now, which are 508 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 6: ideological echo chambers for the left to train students up 509 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 6: to hate America, hate what it was founded on, and 510 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 6: in addition, protest anything that President Trump does. 511 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: So they don't even look at it anymore. 512 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 6: It's just, oh, president Trump takes an action, Oh, let's 513 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 6: go protest it. They don't even realize the irony here, 514 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 6: which is that these students are protesting in support of 515 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 6: a regime that is famous for killing its own protesters, 516 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 6: that has slaughtered tens of thousands of them, and it 517 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 6: won't stop until we stand up and realize its stand 518 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 6: up and say, hey, our universities, you know you're not 519 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 6: going to teach our students to hate America, hate the 520 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 6: country that you were born in, raised in. We need 521 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 6: to see intellectual diversity return to higher education and students 522 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 6: need to be taught the reality of ze. 523 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to repeat my question. Are any of these 524 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: schools taking any action towards the groups that are perpetrating 525 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: this behavior? 526 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 6: You know, if they are, we will continue to monitor them, 527 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 6: monitor them at LUSHAP. They have as yet, it's it's 528 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 6: still up in the We're still seeing this situation ongoing. 529 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 6: The whole thing is ongoing, So if something does happen, 530 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 6: we will be the first report on it. 531 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Well, I hope that at least those that are watching 532 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: or listening to me today, if you're an alumnus of 533 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: Columbia University, that you call the endowment department and tell 534 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: them you're not giving any more money to them, like, 535 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: don't I don't want money going to universities. The same 536 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: with Yale if there was an incident there, don't. I 537 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: don't want money going to universities that are going to 538 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: promote death to America. I'm sorry, I know that makes 539 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: me crazy and very elitist, but that's the way it 540 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: is now. Similarly, there are some groups that are protesting 541 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: the war in Iran, which doesn't seem to be quite 542 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: as harsh in my way of thinking as asking for 543 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: death to America. But what's going on at Arizona State University? 544 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 6: Right, So, we have socialist and pro Palestinian students at 545 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 6: Arizona State University, and they came out with a no 546 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 6: war in Iran protest, protesting President Trump's joint strikes with 547 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 6: Israel on the Kamani regime. But what was interesting about 548 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 6: this is that this protest was challenged by Irunnian students 549 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 6: who said that Iran lived under a Runians were living 550 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 6: under a dictatorship for over forty years, and that they 551 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 6: actually support international pressure on the regime responsible for widespread 552 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 6: human rights abuses. And so this does go back to 553 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 6: show that these students are not being taught the reality 554 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 6: of these regimes. And as we were mentioning earlier, they're 555 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 6: being told death to America. And these are the universities 556 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 6: that are in the United States here there, and we're 557 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 6: beginning to see all of these leftist rallying cries of 558 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 6: no war in Iran and anti Israel. They're all being 559 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 6: joined together because our universities don't have intellectual diversity anymore. 560 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so well said, but it's it's very 561 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: frightening to think that in the American educational system this 562 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: is where we've arrived, and it's angering. I think that 563 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: people that are listening and watching are probably on some level, 564 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of people that don't want 565 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: to see war happen. War is horrible. Big part of 566 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: the reason President Trump was elected was because he didn't 567 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: believe in extending, you know, never ending wars. I don't 568 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: think he was ever under the impression, nor do I 569 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: think he ever gave the impression that he'd be ever 570 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: afraid to use actual military strength when necessary. But the 571 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: issue is that this is something that is a once 572 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: in a lifetime kind of opportunity to topple this dictatorship, 573 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: this tyranny really is what the I toldas were and 574 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: when they killed thirty five thousand of their own just 575 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: weeks before this, Like what other evidence do people at 576 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: Arizona State University need to understand the evil that we're 577 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: dealing with? 578 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 6: You know, I think we it's it's I stumbled upon 579 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 6: something quite recently that I think goes back perfectly to this. 580 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 6: I think they should talk to the Iranians themselves. I 581 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 6: was in DC a couple of weeks ago, and I 582 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 6: stumbled upon a protest against the Comanian regime that was 583 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 6: being led by Iranians, and they're actually celebrating President Trump's actions. 584 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 6: So here you have Iranians who are celebrating President Trump 585 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 6: and Israel for taking out this brutal, brutal regime. And 586 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 6: then you have left as students who were born and 587 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 6: raised in the United States and now chanting death to 588 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 6: America for this very same thing. 589 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: It's disgusting to see that. And you know, the. 590 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 6: Chance, the death to America chance, that is by far 591 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 6: the most infuriating thing. 592 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 3: Are universities. 593 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 6: They're funded by us, by our tax money, and they're 594 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 6: they're just allowing this to happen. It's infuriating and yeah 595 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 6: it makes people angry. 596 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: Well, you can read our Campus Reform friends, but I 597 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: want here's what I want you to do. If if 598 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: you go online and read about this, and then you 599 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: have strong feelings about these schools and you're an alumnus, 600 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: Endowment departments get people's attention pretty quick, and you need 601 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: to let them know that there'll be no more money 602 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: coming from you. And then I would petition your your 603 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: federal leaders to stop sending moneies to these universities. They 604 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: don't need them. Their endowments last well into the future. 605 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: I think it would be really wise to put it 606 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: into all that. William, thank you for what you're doing 607 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: at Campus Reform and come on and see us again 608 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: sometime soon. 609 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 610 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: It was great. You got Kevin McCulloch coming right back 611 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: over the way. 612 00:35:46,080 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 7: Let's stick around for more of that Kevin next serving 613 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 7: it up. That's a no drink mintal. It's that Kevin show, all. 614 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: Right, Kevin mccallaugh. Glad to have you with us. Welcome back. 615 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: I forgot, friends, earlier in the hour, when I was 616 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: telling you about food for the poor, I forgot to 617 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: mention that you can click through on that kevinshow dot 618 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: com to the Food for the Poor banner, which should 619 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: be up. You can text the word hunger to five 620 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: one five five five. You can also give that way, 621 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: or you can call eight five five nine zero seven 622 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: four six seven three. And however you give your gift, 623 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: if you give it this hour, it will be matched 624 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: child for child. So whatever you give, you give one 625 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars. Normally, that would take care of 626 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: two children for the entire next year, all the food 627 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: and all the water that they need for the entire 628 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: next year, two meals a day, all the drinking water 629 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: that they can have, and it's clean, it's purified, it's 630 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: good for them, it's not nasty. One hundred fIF two 631 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: kids for the entire year. But right now someone will 632 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: match that if you call, and that's going to double 633 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: the impact. You're going to reach four kids instead of 634 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: two eight five five nine zero seven four six seven 635 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: three eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three. 636 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: And I would love to just like do so well 637 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: at this friends with you. I would love to make 638 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: such a difference with you that we just we blow 639 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: away all our all of our fellow talk show hosts 640 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: at Salem Media. I know my buddy Mike Gallagher, he 641 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: really gets excited about this campaign, and you know, he's 642 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: always like talking smack to you, Hewitt and some of 643 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: the others about how many, how many kids he feeds 644 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: and so forth. I love, I'd love to show him 645 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: that real Christians really do care about the impact. And 646 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: that's the beautiful thing about Food for the Poor. It 647 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: is a Christian ministry that has been in place for 648 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: forty five years in these eighteen countries. And you're gonna 649 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: not only give food and clean drinking water to that child, 650 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: but that child will be introduced to Jesus at the 651 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: same time. So eight five five, nine oh seven four 652 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: six seven three, and if you call this hour, every 653 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: gift we get will be matched unlimited. So doesn't matter 654 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: how you give five thousand dollars, you're going to double 655 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: that in terms of the food in the water that 656 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: reaches and how many children are benefited by that Fords. 657 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: It is just going to make such a huge difference. 658 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: So please don't put it off. We we have until 659 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: the end of April basically to accomplish our goal. I'd 660 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: love to hit our goal in the next couple of weeks. 661 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: Just have everybody say Okay, let's go, let's do it. 662 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: Eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three 663 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three. 664 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: But seven hundred and twenty children are going hungry today 665 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three 666 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three. 667 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: The next couple of days, I'll have some friends stop by. 668 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it a little bit. But this is 669 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: this is part of my show. We do good all 670 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: the time. We believe in doing good. We believe. One 671 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: of the things I tell my kids when I drop 672 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: them off at school in the morning, the last thing 673 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: they hear from their dad besides I Love you, is 674 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: be good and do good. And I believe that as Christians, 675 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: because the Holy Spirit lives within their heart, they have 676 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: the ability to be their identity can be good, and 677 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: out of that identity, what they do with their actions 678 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: can then show that their actions are consistent with their identity, 679 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: that they will then do good. But you can't do 680 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: it backwards. You can't do good and then become good. 681 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: You got to be good and then out of being good, 682 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: you do good. And that's what I drill into their 683 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: head every single days they're getting out of the car. Okay, 684 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: I love you, Your dad loves you. Now be good 685 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: and do good today. And they always say the same 686 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: thing back, Okay, dad, you be good and do good too, 687 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: and that the best. Like I'm getting challenged by my 688 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: ten I'm thirteen year old to do the very thing 689 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: that I'm challenging them to do. I think that's the 690 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: way it's supposed to work, that we spur one another. 691 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: What does the scripture say, spur one another on to 692 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: love and what good deeds. Let's do that together. Eight 693 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: five five nine oh seven four six seven three. Feed 694 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: a couple of children for one hundred and fifty dollars 695 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,959 Speaker 1: for the next year and give them all the water 696 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: that they need. But right now, if you do it, 697 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: that would be match dollar for dollar eight five five 698 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: nine oh seven four six seven three. Or go to 699 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot com and took the banner at the 700 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: top of the page. Somewhere in the bowels of the 701 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: City that Never sleeps. Kevin McCall up, radio host with 702 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: Salem Media is a man also not sleeping. Okay, show, 703 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: that's Kevin and the call. And then God would like 704 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: a word review. 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It's Kenn McCollough 716 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 2: Monday through Friday on That Kevin Show and now from 717 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: the Connors in Sullivan Bodcast Studios. The man who is 718 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: not what he wants to be, but. 719 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: It is way grateful that is not who. 720 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 5: He used to be. Here, all right. 721 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: Welcome in, Kevin McCall it. 722 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: Glad to have you with us. 723 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: It is a well, it's a sunny day in New 724 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: York though it's cold, so we were hoping for the fifties, 725 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's in the low thirties. It's just one 726 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: of those weird spring days where you think it's going 727 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: to be warm and it doesn't look anything like it. 728 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: But having said that, it's warm in my heart knowing 729 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: that you're here and that we can help think through 730 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: the biggest stories and issues of the day together for 731 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: the next couple of hours. We call it that Kevin Show. 732 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: That Kevinshow dot com is where you go to get 733 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: the podcast, the columns, everything that I talk about. And 734 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about today's column, by the way, and 735 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: it's timely, but it's not necessarily newsy. Sometimes I write 736 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: about other things that pop into my mind, and I 737 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of things that pop into my mind 738 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: and have in recent days. There are stories that entertain, 739 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: and then there are stories that just confront you with 740 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of conviction and truth. And the life of 741 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 1: Saint Patrick does not to me belong in the shallow 742 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: end of cultural celebration. I know today there's going to 743 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: be green beer and plastic hats and parades that forget 744 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: all the point. But his life is something far more unsettling, 745 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 1: because Saint Patrick didn't just survive evil, he went back 746 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: to it. At sixteen, he was stolen from his home, 747 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: ripped from his family, dragged across the sea, forced into 748 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: slavery in a land that was not his own. He 749 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: was not Irish. Ireland was not then the land of 750 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: saints and scholars. It was wild and tribal and dangerous. 751 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: And he spent years alone, cold, hungry, forgotten, tending sheep 752 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: on hills that did not care if he lived or died. 753 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: And yet it was there that something happened, not comfort, 754 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: not rescue. Faith. In his own words, Patrick writes that 755 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: he began to pray constantly, dozens even hundreds of times 756 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: a day, not because he was religious, but because he 757 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: was desperate. And in that desperation he discovered something that 758 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: many of us, with all our conveniences and comforts, rarely 759 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: ever grasp, dependence not on strength, not on strategy, not 760 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 1: on self, but dependence on Christ. Years later, he would 761 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: pin what has become one of the most enduring declarations 762 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: of Christian devotion. Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ 763 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: in me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on 764 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: my right, Christ on my left. It was not poetry 765 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: pen for Instagram. It was the language of survival. Eventually, 766 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: Patrick escaped, against all odds he made at home. The 767 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: nightmare was over, the trauma behind him. The door to 768 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: a normal life, safe, familiar, deserved, was wide open, and 769 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: This is where the story totally stops making sense, because 770 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: instead of moving on, he turned around. He chose to 771 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: go back back to the place of his pain, back 772 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: to the people who enslaved him, back to the land 773 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: that had taken everything from him. Why Because the same 774 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: Christ who met him in the valley was now calling 775 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: him to walk back into the same valley. That's the 776 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: part of the story we don't celebrate enough because it 777 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: demands something of us. We live in a culture obsessed 778 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: with escape. Get out, move on, cut ties, protect your peace, 779 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: build your brand, avoid the hard places and even the 780 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: harder people. But Patrick did the opposite, walked toward them, 781 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: not with revenge in his heart, but was redemption on 782 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: his lips. He returned not as a victim, but as 783 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 1: a witness, And in doing so, he didn't just change 784 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: his own story, he changed an entire nation's trajectory. Ireland 785 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 1: would never be the same. Here's the uncomfortable truth. Most 786 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: of us want comfort of faith without the cost of obedience. 787 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: We love the idea of Christ before me when it 788 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: means guidance and blessing and provision. But what happens when 789 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: Christ before Me leads us somewhere We would never choose 790 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: on our own when I need a perspective bigger than 791 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: my pain. That's not safe faith, that's dangerous faith, the 792 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: kind that transforms not just individuals, but whole cultures. We 793 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: don't know what conversations Patrick had when he first stepped 794 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 1: back into Iris, onto Irish soil. We don't know what 795 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: memories came flooding back, what fears tried to take hold, 796 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: what doubts whispered in the quiet, But we know this. 797 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: He didn't turn back again. He stayed, He preached, he loved, 798 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: he forgave, and slowly, steady, impossibly, hearts began to change. 799 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 1: This Saint Patrick's day, the world will celebrate with noise. 800 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: But Patrick's life was built in silence, on lonely hillsides, 801 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: in whispered prayers, in the unseen decisions of obedience that 802 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,919 Speaker 1: no one applauded until everyone did. The question his life 803 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: leaves us with is not whether we'll wear green or orange. 804 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: It's weather. We'll walk where Christ leads, even when it 805 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: costs us, even when it takes us back into places 806 00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: we swore we'd never go back to, Even when forgiveness 807 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: feels impossible and obedience feels unreasonable, because the same Christ 808 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: who stands before us is the one who stands within us. 809 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: And if Patrick's life proves anything, it proves this. You 810 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: don't need perfect circumstances to change the world. If you're 811 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: waiting on them, you'll never get them. They will never come, 812 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: It will never be the perfect time. Perfect circumstances are 813 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: a carot that is chased. They are an imagination that 814 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: does not come true. They don't exist in our timeline, 815 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: they don't exist in history's timeline. And Patrick's life proved 816 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 1: that you don't need them to change the world. You 817 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: need a surrendered heart Christ before me. It's not just 818 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: a phrase, it's a direction, and for those who are 819 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: willing to follow it, it leads you to a life 820 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 1: that echoes far beyond a single day in the month 821 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: of March. Kevin McCullough, if you would like to know 822 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,479 Speaker 1: more about that Christ, send me an email that Kevin 823 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: Show at gmail dot com. If we don't do anything 824 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 1: else at this microphone, if we never accomplish the passing 825 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 1: of one piece of legislation, if we don't do anything 826 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: else here, I'm okay with that. I want you to 827 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: know the Christ that goes before and the Christ who 828 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: comes behind, and the Christ who is in me, the 829 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: Christ who is under the steps that I take. He's 830 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: beneath me, he's above me. He's on my right and 831 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: my left. I want you to know him too. That 832 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: Kevin Show at gmail dot com. If you want to 833 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: know more about how that Kevin Show at gmail dot com. 834 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: That Kevin Show at gmail dot com, stay with us 835 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: a very full life straight. 836 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 5: Here. 837 00:50:53,320 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 4: He is from New York. That Kevin Kevin mccullor, all. 838 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: Right, welcome back. It's that Kevin Show for Tuesday. And 839 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: we're very honored to have Katy McFarlane joining us. She 840 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: joins us weekly to discuss all things foreign policy, but 841 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: specifically military and national security. And kat I think a 842 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: lot of good things are going on. I like the 843 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: President doing something that nobody's done before, and that is saying, hey, 844 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: you other countries that are going to benefit from all this, 845 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: get your boats over here too, divvying up some of 846 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: the risk and responsibility. Where do you think we are? 847 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: Is the Supreme Leader dead? What's going on on the ground, 848 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: What are our objectives? What do we have yet to 849 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,240 Speaker 1: accomplish before we can start to draw down our presence? 850 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 11: There. Oh, I think he's going extremely well. Yeah, the 851 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 11: Supreme Leader, the first Supreme Leader died the first day. 852 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 11: The second Supreme Leader, nobody's had proof of. 853 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: Life of him. 854 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 11: So is he alive? Is he not? Things are issued 855 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 11: in his name? 856 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 12: Who knows? 857 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 11: The other major leader, Lauren Johnny the President, he was 858 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 11: killed yesterday. If they're working their way through the top 859 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 11: tier of leaders military, civilian, and part of the regime, 860 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 11: that's good. The military part of it. They've taken up 861 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 11: the Navy, the Air Force, the nuclear sites, the missile sites, 862 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 11: the missile production sites, the drone the site, the drone 863 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 11: production sites, the command and control so there. Militarily, they're 864 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 11: just doing a terrific job of really completely demilitarizing Iran. 865 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 3: So what's left? 866 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 11: So the straight up our moose, which going back to 867 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 11: the Nixon administration. When I was in the Knixon administration, 868 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 11: we always knew RN's mood would be to try to 869 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 11: seal off the straight up our moves. They try to 870 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 11: do it for Reagan, they try to do it many 871 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 11: times before. So why is the United States not immediately 872 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 11: jumping to our allies aid and opening the street was 873 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 11: because it's not our list of priorities, but it's not 874 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 11: number one list on our priority because we wanted to 875 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 11: do all the things I've just mentioned, and we're doing that. 876 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 11: So when we get we're confident that there's no war, 877 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 11: we're making capability of a run, and I think we 878 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 11: get to the Strait of Hormuz. But like you said, 879 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 11: the President said to our allies, well, come on, guys, 880 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 11: you have ships, you have ships in the area. 881 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 3: Where are you? 882 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 11: And what he doesn't say is, hey, wait a minute, guys, 883 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 11: the shipping that goes through the Straight of Hormones is yours. 884 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 5: It's not. 885 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 11: It's Europeans, Middle East Asia. That's the trade route through 886 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 11: the Straight of the Persian Gulf, Strait of Removes. American 887 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 11: ships aren't going through those routes, I mean one or two, 888 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 11: but it's not our goods and commerce. It's transiting the 889 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 11: Strait of Hormuz. So you would think that the Allies 890 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 11: would jump at the opportunity to help us, help them, 891 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,439 Speaker 11: but so far, not only have they refused most of them, 892 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 11: but in many cases they're all trying to cut their 893 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,919 Speaker 11: own separate deals, with Iran saying well, you know, let 894 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 11: the French ships in effectively siding with Iran instead of 895 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 11: the United States. I think President Trump will have a 896 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 11: long memory when this is all finished. But I do 897 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 11: think it will be finished within several weeks. And how 898 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 11: could it finish well? Number One, President Trump could just 899 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 11: declare victory today and walk away because he's decimated Iron's 900 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 11: ability to make war. 901 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: Well, if we don't need the straight and we've done 902 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 1: everything we set out to do, I think a lot 903 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: of people are saying, well, why don't we just do that? 904 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 11: Well? President Trump's argument, and it's the argument that is 905 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 11: a very good one. It's like mowing the grass. You 906 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 11: mow the grass, and you know, you mow the grass. 907 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 11: It's great, good for a bit of time, but then 908 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 11: the grass goes back and you got the same problem 909 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 11: all over again. And what President Trump is saying is 910 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 11: I want to solve this problem now. I don't want 911 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 11: to kick it down the road. I don't want to 912 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 11: have to have my successors deal with it. But he could. 913 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 11: He could easily walk away to Morosa, mission accomplished, and 914 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,959 Speaker 11: I've set around back at least ten years in any 915 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 11: of their economic, military, nuclear missile programs. But what he 916 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 11: wants to do is maybe not regime change, in the 917 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 11: sense of kill them all or get rid of them all, 918 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 11: like George Bush did in Afghanistan and a rock. But 919 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,439 Speaker 11: maybe it's the regime change Trump style, which is get 920 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 11: rid of the in calcitrant ones, the ones who keep 921 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 11: screaming death to America, and see if there's anybody within 922 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 11: the leadership or elites in the country that would be 923 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 11: willing to work with us, like what happened in Venezuela. 924 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 11: And I think that's what they're doing. You know, you 925 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 11: don't see it, and of course immediate assumes it's not 926 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 11: happening just because they don't see it. But we are 927 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 11: talking to the senior leaders in these countries. We were 928 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 11: talking to the leaders in Iran in Venezuela before the 929 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 11: Maduro raid. We are talking to the senior people in 930 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 11: Cuba right now about what would what would a government 931 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 11: post communists look like? What would a government post Maduro 932 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 11: look like? And I'm assuming that given the fact that 933 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 11: we have far greater intelligence, along with the Israelis, of 934 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 11: what happens in Iran, and we're also talking there. 935 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: What what what do you what do you make of 936 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: where the Iranian people sit right now? 937 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 11: You don't know, I mean nobody's punk both opinion polls 938 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 11: that anybody can count on and Iran right now, what 939 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 11: is happening on the streets that are run is that 940 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 11: there's a group called the Besiege b A. 941 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 13: S I J. 942 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 11: And they're fogs and guys in motorcycle gangs and they're 943 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 11: quote irregular forces, but they're the goons. They're the goods 944 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,280 Speaker 11: who are doing street patrol, and those are the people 945 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 11: who are gunning down any protesters. What they do is 946 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 11: that the Besiege says up these checkpoints on corner street corners, 947 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 11: and if they see anybody who looks like they're going 948 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 11: to protest, or women who aren't weighing the headscarves, they 949 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 11: shoot them or they arrest them. So what are we 950 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 11: doing about that? Well, this is the sort of second 951 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 11: wave of the attacks that we're doing. We can pinpoint 952 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 11: those checkpoints and we can send a missile right to 953 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 11: that place or drop a bomb right at that street corner, 954 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 11: and that eliminates and destroys that checkpoint. So well, that 955 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 11: was not the first that we have now turned to 956 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,439 Speaker 11: that in week two. Week one, it was to get 957 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 11: rid of the missile sites and the command and control. 958 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 11: But we're now to the sort of next level of targets. 959 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 11: And we're doing that. At what point does somebody emerge 960 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 11: from either the current regime, say a second tier person 961 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 11: who says enough is enough, or does somebody other people emerge? 962 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 11: As President Trump has said, and this is quite unusual, 963 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 11: he said to the military, lay down your arms, I'll 964 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 11: get the anssy. We would like you to work with 965 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 11: a new government. So I think that we just there's 966 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 11: several options. President Trump hass he can just keep killing 967 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 11: the guys tier one, tier two, tier three until he 968 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 11: gets somebody who says, Okay, I'm willing to work with you. 969 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 11: I want to run back in the new world, the 970 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 11: world economy. We're going to stop our new their program. 971 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 11: We're not going to support the proxies. We're going to 972 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 11: dismantle our highly enriched geranium. And maybe there is that person, 973 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 11: maybe there's not that person. 974 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 4: But it's fluid. 975 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 11: And that's why I think President Trump has so many options, 976 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 11: and he's given himself make some emoptions. 977 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 3: Remember Iran's broke. 978 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 11: They don't have any oil to so they can't sell 979 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 11: their oil. 980 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 4: But we've left. 981 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 11: For example, there's a place called Kerg Island, which is 982 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 11: this tiny island in the middle of the Strait of 983 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 11: Hormuz and its Two things happen there. One is there 984 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 11: military base is there to shoot it any ship that's transitting, 985 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 11: and that we destroyed three days ago. No military operations 986 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 11: on card Island. But Card Island also has a pipeline 987 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 11: going from Iran to the island, and that's where all 988 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 11: the ships that are getting oil. You know that the 989 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 11: oil transit ships are loaded up with oil. 990 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 4: We've left that alone. 991 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 11: And we've left that alone because I think President Trump again, 992 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 11: is he working with the people of Iran or his 993 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 11: people talking to their people or some people with the 994 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 11: idea that then a post Mullah regime could build up 995 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 11: very quickly into as you said, one of the most 996 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 11: prosperous countries in the world. 997 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's their history, and I think you still 998 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 1: have some people who are alive forty seven fifty years 999 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: ago that remember that. What do you think the role 1000 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: of the crown princes in this He has volunteered to 1001 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: help in whatever way he can. Is he useful or 1002 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: is it still just too insecure in terms of the 1003 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: math on the ground to be able to bring someone 1004 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: like that in well as. 1005 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 11: President of Shwubs. He's met him several times. He says, 1006 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 11: a nice guy's really polite, very earnest. He's got a 1007 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 11: comprehensive plan of you know, things like Wendy, you turn 1008 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 11: on the lights, Wendy, you turn on the water works. 1009 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 11: But he himself a lobby has not been in Iran 1010 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 11: for four or five years, so does he have the 1011 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 11: connections on the ground that he might need. My guess 1012 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 11: is that the the US government, officially or unificially, he 1013 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 11: is talking to everybody and they're trying to see, okay, 1014 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 11: who might work. 1015 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 9: Because remember with. 1016 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 11: Venezuela, there was Maria Machado who got the Nobel Prize, 1017 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 11: is the opposition leader, and everyone thought, oh, well, Trump 1018 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 11: is going to support her. She's going to go in. 1019 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 11: She hasn't been in Venezuela in a number of years, 1020 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 11: but she's going to go in and be the new government. 1021 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 11: She was talking to President Trump still is in his team, 1022 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 11: and I think they concluded that as good as she was, 1023 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 11: she wasn't up to running the government. 1024 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 3: She didn't have a. 1025 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 11: Plan, and that's why they were at the same time 1026 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 11: talking to the Vice president, Maduro's number two, Delsea Rodriguez, 1027 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 11: talking to her. They were also talking to two. 1028 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 9: Other rodriguez Is, the brothers of DLCEA Rodriguez, who were 1029 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 9: heads of the intelligence services, and I forget what else, 1030 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 9: but they talked to them, and I think that that's 1031 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 9: when they conclude, Okay, who's capable, who will have the support. 1032 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 11: Of the people, who will do what we want them 1033 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 11: to do, and they go from there. So I think 1034 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 11: that's where we are now. And I don't have a 1035 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 11: crystal ball to say. 1036 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 4: Who will be emerged from this, But. 1037 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 11: We have all the options. We could declare victory walk 1038 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 11: away tomorrow. We could bomb more of their economic sites 1039 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 11: and put them back into the Stone Age. We could 1040 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 11: find some people and around who are willing to work 1041 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 11: with us and then go forward. I think those all 1042 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 11: three of those options are very good. And how long 1043 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 11: will this take? 1044 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it takes six months. 1045 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 11: I think that the conclusions are reached one way or 1046 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 11: the other within. 1047 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, well they certainly were in Venezuela. I think, 1048 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, to realize how relatively calm that is now 1049 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: and how recently that happened two ago, I mean, it's 1050 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: crazy and all right, Katie always appreciate the insights very helpful. 1051 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks so pleasure. 1052 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 11: Thank you. 1053 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Kevin mccallach. I'm in right fact, don't away. 1054 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 4: Let's stick around for more of that. Kevin next here 1055 01:01:53,040 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 4: he is from New York. Exact Ken Kevin McCullough in 1056 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 4: Latriae is the. 1057 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 11: Yes. 1058 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 12: I always worry about the collisions intens the water. 1059 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 3: Is the enferment. 1060 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 12: Sometimes in during winter they get sick, they might get diarrhea, 1061 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 12: they might get stomach ache, and I believe that is 1062 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 12: because of the war collisions that they have. 1063 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that there's anybody on the planet that 1064 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: can argue that being sick from bad water is a 1065 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: bad experience. And if you've ever been in a foreign country, 1066 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: if you've ever been in a place where the water 1067 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: supply is not sound and you've experienced that, you know, 1068 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: just on an average basis, what it is like to 1069 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: be sick from that. But can you imagine that type 1070 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 1: of water being the only water supply you have. Well, 1071 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: that is the case in thousands of little lives throughout 1072 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Central and Latin America, South America, Haiti, some of the 1073 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: countries where food for the pores at work. And the 1074 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: reason that we are bringing this to your attention right 1075 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: now is because it is important to know that every 1076 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: one of the children that we help with Food for 1077 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: the Poor this year is not just going to receive 1078 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 1: a year's worth of food with two meals per day 1079 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: for the next three hundred and sixty five days, but 1080 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 1: they're going to get clean drinking water. They're going to 1081 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: have access to clean drinking water. Here from Food for 1082 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: the Poor to discuss is Danny Patino who rejoins us 1083 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: and Danny, when I think of contaminated water, I almost 1084 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: think of this as a bigger crisis, a more urgent 1085 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 1: crisis than the lack of food. It takes you longer 1086 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 1: to starve to death than it does to drink really 1087 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 1: bad water and have your whole system be flushed with 1088 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: dehydration and your body rejecting and emptying out of all 1089 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: of the moisture that you have. And this is what 1090 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Contaminated water leads to deaths from dehydration more than anything else. 1091 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: So it's a really, really bad deal. But the fact 1092 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: that we give clean drinking water, access to clean drinking 1093 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: water every one of these kids were helping today, that's 1094 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: really an amazing thing. 1095 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 3: And you said it, that's yourself. 1096 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 10: It can make you sick and you're already sick, then 1097 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 10: where do we go? 1098 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 3: What's the next step? Right? 1099 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 10: So clean water should be all right, we understand that, 1100 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 10: but for millions that we serve here at Food for 1101 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 10: the Poor, it's a risk. And we're talking about water 1102 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 10: that doesn't quench a thirst. It makes you sick, It 1103 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 10: creates sickness, and that water steals childhoods. And we heard 1104 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 10: there are Maria we we met in Guatemala. She just 1105 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 10: thinks about what's going to make them sick if I 1106 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 10: drink them water, not the other way around, where I 1107 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 10: want to quench their thirst and move on with life, right, 1108 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 10: that we usually do here in the States, because we 1109 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 10: don't have to think about that kind of water. We 1110 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 10: probably drink the bottled water that sits in our car 1111 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 10: in the sun for a couple of days because we 1112 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 10: know it's clean, we know we can drink it. And 1113 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 10: that's the kind of luxury that we live here. And 1114 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 10: by the luxury, I mean it is a luxury for 1115 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 10: these families that we're helping in Latin America and the Caribbean. 1116 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 10: And chronic diarrhea isn't just a symptom, it's a thief 1117 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 10: it's nutrition from hungry children. 1118 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 3: It steals days from school. 1119 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,439 Speaker 10: Imagine I even being able to go to school because 1120 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 10: you're sick, and on top of that and not be 1121 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 10: able to feed your kids to get them back to health. 1122 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 10: So that way, maybe you can get your routine going. 1123 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 10: And that routine is broken right away. And this is 1124 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 10: that strength that withers away on families that are already struggling. 1125 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 10: And this can be preventable, and it really is. 1126 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,439 Speaker 3: And that's why I'm here. 1127 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 10: Today to tell you that you can step into those 1128 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 10: lives of those families with a one time gift, and 1129 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 10: that one time gift becomes a daily gift for these families, 1130 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 10: for the children that are already going through malnourishment. This 1131 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 10: becomes a meal that finally gets them back on their feet. 1132 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 10: Water that is no longer contamidated. It's safe water. Water 1133 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 10: they can use for many many other things other than drinking. Finally, 1134 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 10: you can cook with this, you can bathe with this, 1135 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 10: you can use it, and you know that it's not 1136 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 10: going to come back and become something worse. And that's 1137 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 10: the choice that a parent should not make. They shouldn't 1138 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 10: Their choices would be what kind of meal are we 1139 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 10: having today. What cool adventure are we going to go 1140 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 10: on today? And that's the goal that we were trying 1141 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 10: to provide with the one time gift that we were 1142 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 10: asking here, Well, one time gift to one hundred and 1143 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 10: fifty dollars, Like you said, it becomes a world of change, 1144 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 10: three hundred and sixty five days of relief for these families. 1145 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 1: If you think about this, friends, and I would really 1146 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: beg of you to consider that one hundred and fifty 1147 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: dollars seventy five dollars per child is not only going 1148 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,439 Speaker 1: to feed them two meals a day for the coming year, 1149 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: but that it's going to give them access to clean 1150 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: drinking water. Now do you think they need probably more 1151 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: than eight or sixteen ounces whatever your little water bottle 1152 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: is that you buy, you know, from the vending machine 1153 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: or you get it from the from the Walgreens or 1154 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 1: wherever you go, you know, and you grab a bottle 1155 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: of water, even if you get it from the Sam's 1156 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 1: Club or the you know whatever else the discount buyer 1157 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 1: shop and you get the big crate, they're still what 1158 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: a dollar fifty each or something like that dollar twenty 1159 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: five maybe where you can go imagine having to supply 1160 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: water for a child for an entire year, and they're 1161 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: going to need more than eight ounces a day. They're 1162 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: going to need a lot more than eight ounces of 1163 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 1: water a day. You're supposed to drink half your body 1164 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: weight in water each day just to be healthy. So 1165 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 1: think about that and then do that math. You're talking 1166 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 1: about several hundred dollars just for clean water for one child. 1167 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, this is the beautiful kind of 1168 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 1: multiplying effect of food for the poor. You give your 1169 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: gift of seventy five dollars for that child, they're going 1170 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 1: to get over seven hundred meals for the next year. 1171 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 1: And in addition, they're going to get literally hundreds, if 1172 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 1: not thousands of dollars worth of clean drinking water. When 1173 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,439 Speaker 1: you put a dollar amount on it, when you understand 1174 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,280 Speaker 1: what that cost, what it would cost you to bring 1175 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: it into your home to give to your kids, to 1176 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: have your family, imagine that cost. But imagine now the 1177 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 1: efficiency of having seventy five dollars provide all of that 1178 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 1: for one child for the next year. So one hundred 1179 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars takes care of two kids. Now, listen 1180 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: to me very carefully for the next ten minutes. Every 1181 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: child that we take care of, every seventy five dollars gift, 1182 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: every one hundred and fifty dollars gift that comes in, 1183 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: every gift of any size is going to be doubled. Friends, 1184 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,679 Speaker 1: be a miracle in another child's life. Right now eight five, five, 1185 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 1: nine zero, seven four six seventy three. Text the word 1186 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 1: hunger to five to one, five fifty. 1187 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 14: Five, or go to that Kevin show dot com. 1188 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,919 Speaker 4: Here he is from New York. That Kevin Kevin mckellough. 1189 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Time Square. It's Kevin mccallough, that Kevin Show, 1190 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot com now on six hundred and ninety 1191 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 1: five stations across the country. Thank you for welcoming us 1192 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: into your life at home. With the existence of a 1193 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: global conflict underway and the US part of that, even 1194 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: though we have some other allies involved, Israel and some others, 1195 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,680 Speaker 1: you can always bet that there's going to be an 1196 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: economic impact what's going on when the military is involved. EJ. 1197 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Anthony joins us from the Heritage Foundation. He's their chief ECONOMISTJ. 1198 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 1: I know that one of the reasons a lot of 1199 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 1: Americans actually supported President Trump is because he while he's 1200 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: not opposed to using military force, getting us into long 1201 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: standing conflicts is something that he is very much against. 1202 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: We seem to be ahead of schedule. What's the economic 1203 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 1: impact thus far of this two and a half going 1204 01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:58,959 Speaker 1: on three week. 1205 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 13: War, Kevin question? Unfortunately not good. We're basically seeing a 1206 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 13: lot of speculation within the oil market, within the natural 1207 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 13: gas market, because we simply just don't know how this is, 1208 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 13: how this is going to turn out. You know, you're 1209 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 13: talking about an industry where the infrastructure is literally going 1210 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 13: to take weeks to make changes. What I mean by 1211 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 13: that is, if you're trying to figure out am I 1212 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 13: able as an oil exporter in the Gulf, am I 1213 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 13: able to get oil out of the strait of horror moves? 1214 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about today. 1215 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 13: I'm thinking about two three weeks from now, because that's 1216 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 13: how long it's going to take, even under emergency procedures, 1217 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 13: to turn my oil infrastructure off, whether it's the pumps, 1218 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 13: whether it's the refineries, whatever the case may be. Right, So, 1219 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 13: people unfortunately are having to make decisions again based on 1220 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 13: very incomplete information about future events. And on top of that, 1221 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 13: not only do you have to worry about again oil 1222 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 13: infrastructure just simply being shut off. But now since oil 1223 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 13: infrastructure has been targeted in the war, now you're having 1224 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 13: to worry about it just being flat out destroyed. Then 1225 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 13: it's not a matter of oil supply returning to the 1226 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,839 Speaker 13: market in a matter of weeks, but months or years 1227 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 13: to either repair or rebuild things that have been destroyed. 1228 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 13: So again, unfortunately, the impact here is very negative economically speaking, 1229 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 13: because it's going to mean higher energy costs, and those 1230 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 13: higher energy costs trickle down to everything else in the economy, 1231 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 13: and not only on carg It seems like the US 1232 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 13: military has avoided the oil infrastructure but pretty much everywhere 1233 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 13: else in Iran and in. 1234 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 1: The rest region to have something salvageable for whatever comes next, 1235 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 1: which would make a lot of sense. 1236 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 13: Right now now President Trump has threatened to destroy all 1237 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,640 Speaker 13: of that oil infrastructure, but thus far, at least, it 1238 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,520 Speaker 13: has simply been Israel and Iran that have been targeting 1239 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 13: oil infrastructure in the region, with Israel striking obviously targets 1240 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 13: in Iran and Iran striking targets pretty much everywhere else 1241 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 13: in the region. 1242 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 3: When it comes to oil infrastructure. 1243 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 1: What does this do for American producers? Of energy. I 1244 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 1: happen to be a very small partner in a djbasin 1245 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 1: company that is trying to increase our footprint all the time. 1246 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 1: How do American energy producers fare during a season like this. 1247 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 13: Well, you would initially think that any decreases in production 1248 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 13: out of places like the Middle East would simply just 1249 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 13: be matched by increases in production everywhere else, and to 1250 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 13: a certain extent, that's true, but not all crude is 1251 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 13: created equal. For example, most of the refineries that we 1252 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 13: have along the Gulf of America are set up to 1253 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 13: refine heavy crude like what comes out of Venezuela, like 1254 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 13: what comes out of the Middle East. They're actually not 1255 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 13: set up to refine the oil that we produce here 1256 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 13: at home, believe it or not, what we call WTI 1257 01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 13: West Texas Intermedia. Most of that kevin we actually ship 1258 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 13: abroad to be refined overseas at places that are set 1259 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 13: up specifically to handle light, sweet crude. 1260 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 3: And so the issue is that. 1261 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 13: Even if we were to one for one, replace all 1262 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 13: of the lost production overseas with increased production here at home, 1263 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 13: we don't necessarily have the oil infrastructure to handle that, 1264 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,879 Speaker 13: at least not in any way economically. 1265 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: That is discouraging. You mentioned Venezuela kind of key that 1266 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 1: we have control over their oil choices right now, isn't it? 1267 01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 3: In lifeliness? It certainly helps. It's a great point, Kevin. 1268 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 13: The only problem with Venezuela is that their infrastructure has 1269 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 13: been so neglected by the communist regime down there that unfortunately, 1270 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 13: it's going to take many years for us to actually 1271 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 13: get that production back to where it was just a 1272 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 13: matter of a few years ago. Really, because again, we're 1273 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 13: not talking about an industry where you can turn things 1274 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,800 Speaker 13: on and off with like a light switch. 1275 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, if we do gain control of a reasonable solution 1276 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 1: in Iran, the leadership there is going to be tend 1277 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,599 Speaker 1: to be, I believe, friendli er to the United States 1278 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 1: than what we've experienced in the last forty seven years. 1279 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 1: What will American dominance with Iranian oil, Venezuelan oil, US oil? 1280 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: How does that impact you know, Russia, China, kind of 1281 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 1: the other people that want to play in the energy 1282 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 1: game and need large amounts of it. 1283 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 13: Well, I think it does give the United States a 1284 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 13: little bit of an edge. You know, there are some 1285 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 13: folks who say, well, I have no impact at all. 1286 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 13: Because oil's oil is a global market, and there are 1287 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 13: other folks who think, well, no, it's going to give 1288 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,400 Speaker 13: the United States complete and total energy dominance. 1289 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 3: Look, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. 1290 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 2: Right. 1291 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,320 Speaker 13: Yes, it is true that the US having control of 1292 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 13: more oil supplies is going to give us some leverage. 1293 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,679 Speaker 13: But at the same time, it's not total leverage. It's 1294 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 13: not as if we're going to be able to shut 1295 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 13: off all supplies to nations that we don't like, because again, 1296 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,679 Speaker 13: these are global markets, and if they're not buying from Iran, 1297 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 13: they'll buy from somewhere else. So in other words, we're 1298 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,799 Speaker 13: simply going to redirect certain flows. 1299 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,599 Speaker 3: You know, Russia, Russia's the key player here. 1300 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 13: I think what's happening right now, unfortunately, has been a 1301 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 13: total windfall to Putin because we've had to lift sanctions 1302 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 13: off of Russia so that they are now exporting not 1303 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,439 Speaker 13: only more, but they're exporting at market prices, whereas before 1304 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 13: under sanctions they were having to essentially do it under 1305 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 13: the table and sell oil at discount rates. So now 1306 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 13: they're selling much more oil at much higher prices. Again, 1307 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 13: that's a windfall to Putin. But to your point, if 1308 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,760 Speaker 13: you bring this additional supply online. What happens will now 1309 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 13: you depress prices again and that really eats into the 1310 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,639 Speaker 13: financing for Putin's war machine. 1311 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can see what happens. EJ. We're going 1312 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 1: to have to have you back to talk about your 1313 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six index of Economic Freedom, but just give 1314 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 1: me the thumbnail. What's the what's the top line news there? 1315 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 13: Well, I think the top line news is simply the 1316 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,639 Speaker 13: fact that the United States is finally starting to improve 1317 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 13: when it comes to economic freedom, and that comes from 1318 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,400 Speaker 13: the huge deregulatory effort that we've seen at the federal 1319 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,559 Speaker 13: government over the last year or so. 1320 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,759 Speaker 3: So positive news at least on that front. 1321 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Deregulation's good. Keep them coming as far as I'm concerned. 1322 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 5: EJ. 1323 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: Anthony of the Heritage Foundation, Thank you for being with us. 1324 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,679 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Kevin. 1325 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: Kevin McCollough coming right back from Times Square under. 1326 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 7: Way, let's stick around for more of that. 1327 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 4: Kevin next. 1328 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:51,160 Speaker 7: Serving it up with a no Drink Minute. It's net 1329 01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 7: Kevin that. 1330 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,519 Speaker 1: Show, Kevin mccallaugh. Glad have you with us that Kevin show, 1331 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot com. That's where you go and we've 1332 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 1: got more news and stuff for you straight ahead. I 1333 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,919 Speaker 1: hope that, I hope that that you know we're providing 1334 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 1: some help to you this afternoon. Thank you, by the way, 1335 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 1: to those of you that have helped us get past 1336 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 1: the five hundred and fiftieth child in our Food for 1337 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: the Poor efforts. We are on our way to seven twenty. 1338 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 1: We have a little bit of wood to chop. I 1339 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 1: believe that we can get there. I would love to 1340 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 1: get there, you know, before the end of this week. 1341 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 1: If it was possible. There's one hundred and seventy something 1342 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 1: children left seventy five dollars each. We'll rescue one and 1343 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 1: give them two meals a day for the next year 1344 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 1: and clean drinking water all that they can consume for 1345 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. Seventy five dollars will do that at 1346 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 1: eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three 1347 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 1: eight five five nine zero seven four six seven three. 1348 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,559 Speaker 1: I also want you to go to another website that 1349 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:03,840 Speaker 1: kevinshow dot com backslash Heaven. That kevinshow dot com backslash Heaven. 1350 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 1: The reason that I want you to go to that 1351 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,640 Speaker 1: website is because when you go to that page, you 1352 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:16,719 Speaker 1: can request a kit this Holy season that will guide 1353 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 1: your thoughts and questions. There'll be a trailer that you 1354 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,360 Speaker 1: can get, there'll be a full length movie that you 1355 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,720 Speaker 1: can get, and there'll be some study questions that go 1356 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,519 Speaker 1: along with it about a story called Heaven, How I 1357 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 1: Got Here, the story of the Thief on the Cross. 1358 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 1: We are giving out links and copies of this movie 1359 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,559 Speaker 1: as many as we can, hoping that not only will 1360 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 1: you watch it yourself, but that you'll invite a friend 1361 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 1: to watch it. And what you can do is get 1362 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 1: your watch kit when you go to that website that 1363 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: kevinshow dot com backslash Heaven, that kevinshow dot com backslash Heaven. 1364 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 1: There's also a link to see the film in more 1365 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:03,360 Speaker 1: than three dozen languages. As it is now across the world, 1366 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 1: rapidly expanding and becoming we're raising awareness about it everywhere. 1367 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 1: But what this story does, basically, the movie tells the 1368 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 1: story of the ubiquitous character, the Thief on the Cross. 1369 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 1: He is the man who is crucified next to Jesus 1370 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 1: on the same day. And you may remember there were 1371 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: two thieves and one cursed Jesus and died and went 1372 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 1: the way that that goes and the other. This thief 1373 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: started out on that path, but has a recognition when 1374 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: hearing the words that Jesus spoke, and he asked the 1375 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,480 Speaker 1: god of the universe to remember him, and Jesus promised 1376 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 1: that he would, And what that essentially was was a 1377 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 1: was a transaction. The thief put his faith in Jesus, 1378 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 1: and Jesus took him to heaven. He took the thief 1379 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 1: to heaven. Who was just He was way more than 1380 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,479 Speaker 1: a thief, by the way, because you didn't get you 1381 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 1: didn't get crucified for being a petty thief. It was 1382 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 1: a bad guy, terrorist, rapist, murderer. He was a guy 1383 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 1: that deserved the sentence that he was being given. Next 1384 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 1: to Jesus. Jesus didn't deserve to die. He did nothing. 1385 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,920 Speaker 1: The reason he died was to take your sin in mind. 1386 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 1: But he didn't do anything that warranted him being there. 1387 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: But the thief did. And the thief deserved what he got, 1388 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,000 Speaker 1: and he still ended up in heaven. And if that 1389 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 1: is if that makes you curious, if you're like, how 1390 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 1: does that even work, you need to watch the movie. 1391 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,680 Speaker 1: It's portrayed by Stephen Baldwin as a one man play 1392 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 1: that was done. It was shot about twelve years ago, 1393 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 1: but it's really relevant and I will say it's quite emotional. 1394 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,240 Speaker 1: So go to that Kevinshow dot Com backslash Heaven and 1395 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,760 Speaker 1: get your watch kit and then invite some people over 1396 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:10,679 Speaker 1: this holy season. Watch the film and use the discussion 1397 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,839 Speaker 1: questions and have a conversation about it. Order some pizza. 1398 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:18,120 Speaker 1: Make it fun. That Kevinshow dot Com backslash Heaven, That 1399 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 1: Kevinshow dot Com backslash Heaven. Do it today. Kevin mccallay