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Speaker 5: Hi, I'm my name is Sepora Cramone and I'm a

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Speaker 5: So the Venezuelans on campus and the Cubans on campus,

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Speaker 6: There's this huge threat.

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Speaker 6: But with that also.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the exact time, but we had zero

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Speaker 4: Do you guys feel there's a difference between sort of

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I honestly think most of the

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Speaker 2: But I think also along with that, it's just interesting

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, there is no more divisive issue on

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Speaker 4: And for me, that was sort of a key distinction

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Speaker 4: you mentioned you want you think people aren't educated about

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Speaker 5: So that's tricky because and again I'm speaking from my

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Speaker 5: they don't have that moral compass like we at this.

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Speaker 6: Table, or I'm assuming do.

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Speaker 5: They don't believe in religion, and so they don't take

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Speaker 3: Okay, but you just said defend America from Iran.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So one of the bigger controversies with the Iran

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Speaker 3: That's the expression you'll see online.

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Speaker 4: A lot dog walked into a war with Iran because

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I don't particularly agree with that, but they have a

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Speaker 3: Abeed, for example.

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Speaker 4: But should that interest extend to the United States, meaning it,

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Speaker 4: what's the education that you would like more people to

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Speaker 6: Yes, And it goes back to this idea that I

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Speaker 5: Islam does not assimilate well in our country, and I

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Speaker 11: It just American Okay, see, Okay, I don't know that

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Speaker 11: they have the capability of launching a strike on the

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Speaker 3: Right, that's usually the dirty bombs, dirty bombs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, And I would agree with you on the

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Speaker 2: It's less about mind. But yeah, Charlie believed this.

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Speaker 4: I believe this that Islam taken on the macro is

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Speaker 4: You can meet really really sweet and nice Muslims on

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Speaker 10: Kind of think just even on so we're talking about

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Speaker 10: And so what I would ask we talk about how

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Speaker 2: Win them over?

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Speaker 10: Failing that, would they be won over if the conflict ended?

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Speaker 10: Or do you feel the damage is more enduring in

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Speaker 10: some capacity?

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Speaker 6: I think it may have been a little better.

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Speaker 9: At least for unity standpoint, if there was no boots

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Speaker 9: on the ground in the initial which there well there.

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Speaker 2: Still haven't been in not nature in Iran at least.

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Speaker 8: Well about what would win someone over, that's a personal thing,

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Speaker 8: like I can't speak to what I speak to a

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Speaker 8: lot of people who feel, as you would say, misled

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Speaker 8: out the trade by the promptses Trump made in his campaign,

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Speaker 8: and to a certain extent in an individual sense, I

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Speaker 8: understand how they feel that way, but what would win

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Speaker 8: them over.

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Speaker 6: It's individualized as far as like if if the conflict ended,

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Speaker 6: would they be one over? I think you mentioned Venezuela.

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Speaker 8: I think part of why you saw less pushback on

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Speaker 8: that is because it was two seconds and no one

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Speaker 8: knew about it until after it was done, you know, so.

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Speaker 6: Of course it's like and it was really success, right,

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Speaker 6: how are you gonna be mad about that? It happens?

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Speaker 8: But this is it is more ongoing and there's so much,

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Speaker 8: you know, focus on it in the media right now.

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Speaker 8: I don't think we shouldn't be hiding it, but there

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Speaker 8: is a lot more attension on it, and it is

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Speaker 8: going on for longer than we would have liked.

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Speaker 6: But I think part of why.

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Speaker 8: Maybe there's an ideological like disconnect between Trump is the

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Speaker 8: terms that he used. I don't think he was being dishonest.

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Speaker 8: I don't feel personally mispled. I understand what people do,

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Speaker 8: but America first, I guess for a lot of people,

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Speaker 8: a lot of people that I talk to has kind

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Speaker 8: of been translated to kind of a cut and dry

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Speaker 8: if this inconvenience is America even in the slightest then

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Speaker 8: we can't do it. Or if this isn't a linear

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Speaker 8: progress for America, then we can't do it. Or if

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Speaker 8: prices go up slightly, then we can't do it. And

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Speaker 8: that's just not what America first, in my opinion, or

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Speaker 8: and I think how Trump described it is about America

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Speaker 8: first is a philosophy. And like you said, politics is

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Speaker 8: often one step four, we're two steps back. And I

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Speaker 8: think it's less about winning someone over on a specific

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Speaker 8: issue and more about kind of how you said, an

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Speaker 8: education of how all these things actually work. And it

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Speaker 8: can't be I don't I don't want to fight anymore. Andrew,

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Speaker 8: let's not. It's just that's not how it works well.

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Speaker 4: And sure, and Trump, to his credit, has been critical

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Speaker 4: of Iran since.

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Speaker 3: You can go back to the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 4: He's got clips where he's pretty upset about the way

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Speaker 4: that that foreign policy had been pursued. And then you know,

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Speaker 4: within the last decade, maybe even two, he's talked about

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Speaker 4: how Iran should not have a nuclear weapon. So people,

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Speaker 4: I do think there is a truth to the fact

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Speaker 4: that people became convinced of an image of Trump that

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Speaker 4: wasn't actually real or reflected in his campaign.

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Speaker 3: But for thee less voted for that voted for no

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Speaker 3: new wars.

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Speaker 4: Right, you heard this no new wars and they specifically

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Speaker 4: I think with Iran got it it got even more

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Speaker 4: controversial because there was an impression, rightly or wrongly, and

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Speaker 4: I would believe, I believe wrongly that we did that

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Speaker 4: war or we started this conflict with Iran at the

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Speaker 4: behest of Israel BB net and Yahoo right.

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Speaker 3: And so while Trump.

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Speaker 4: Has been consistent on it and he wanted to take

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Speaker 4: care of this problem, there.

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Speaker 2: Is a perception, perceived reality.

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Speaker 4: That Trump did this for for Israel, right, not for

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Speaker 4: America's right. So you've you've made the connection in your

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Speaker 4: head that you believe that this wasn't America's best interest,

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Speaker 4: whether or not the larger public, especially young people, has

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Speaker 4: become convinced of that question is the.

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Speaker 3: Question, right, Let's slightly move to the MoU. Right the MoU.

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Speaker 4: You guys know what I'm referring to. With that, right,

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Speaker 4: jd Vance has been pursuing this MoU.

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Speaker 2: It felt like understanding.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it was basically a ceasefire agreement to pursue

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Speaker 4: a longer term piece with Iran. Now that has hit

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Speaker 4: some roadblocks, but we're not at this point of this recording,

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Speaker 4: it's still something that's approximately being pursued.

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Speaker 3: Trump has said.

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Speaker 4: It's basically over, but I think there's certain people like JD.

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Speaker 3: Vance is certainly still pursuing it.

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Speaker 4: So do you guys support that without sort of a

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Speaker 4: regime change? Like, do you are you glad that we're

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Speaker 4: trying to pursue peace? Do you have any faith that

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Speaker 4: we can achieve it? Anybody can go no, we haven't

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Speaker 4: heard from you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have faith that we can achieve peace. It's

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Speaker 2: definitely wishy wash. I mean, like we said, there have

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Speaker 2: been roadblocks along the way there. But I think, honestly,

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Speaker 2: kind of touching on what our last point was, I

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Speaker 2: think we live in a soft generation.

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Speaker 7: Our generation hasn't really seen a war.

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Speaker 2: You know, we haven't fought in a huge wars as

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Speaker 2: far as like I mean, my brothers and sisters in

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Speaker 2: christ they haven't gone and had boots on the grounds

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Speaker 2: in other countries. Because of my age, and I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are blind to the fact, like

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Speaker 2: how was Western civilization built? You see a lot of

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Speaker 2: gen Z pop culture people saying, oh, We're built America's

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Speaker 2: on stolen land.

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Speaker 7: Like, that's not how it happened.

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Speaker 2: That is not how it happened, sir, you know, And

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Speaker 2: I think I have faith that sometimes war is good

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Speaker 2: and that's for the protection of my people and my

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Speaker 2: brothers and sisters in Christ. But obviously, I mean this

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Speaker 2: is coming from someone who doesn't even believe in the

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Speaker 2: death penalty, who's a Christian, And I still think there.

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Speaker 7: Is peace is hopeful, but other people need to surrender

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Speaker 7: to Christ and also America first.

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Speaker 4: Okay, anyone else on the same question, but their pursuit

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Speaker 4: of peace, though, do you see that you think that

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Speaker 4: needs to be our posture here? Do you sell faith

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Speaker 4: that we can achieve peace with Iran, which has been

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Speaker 4: notorious at telling you one thing and then doing something different.

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Speaker 4: Like a lot of people feel that you can't go

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Speaker 4: into a good faith negotiation with Iran because they basically

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Speaker 4: will just lie to us.

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Speaker 8: Well, this is where I think conversations maybe we're and

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Speaker 8: dry a little bit, because what does peace mean?

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Speaker 6: What do we mean by that?

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Speaker 8: Like I give us five years and we're not going

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Speaker 8: to disagree until like authority changes.

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Speaker 6: And then we read back to it.

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Speaker 8: Peace means one thing, and I don't think that that

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Speaker 8: definition of peace piece is and like actual agreement and

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Speaker 8: kindness that will last between two individuals or two nations

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Speaker 8: or two families or whatever you want to say. I

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Speaker 8: don't think that concept of peace, which is what I

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Speaker 8: consider to be the definition of peace, is possible with Iran,

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Speaker 8: not because know there's a specific issue that we can't

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Speaker 8: agree on, but because it's an ideological civilizational difference and

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Speaker 8: they're diametrically opposed, and especially in the terms of religion,

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Speaker 8: we're diametrically opposed. So I don't think peace as we're

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Speaker 8: talking about it is is a possibility. What you're describing

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Speaker 8: I think is possible.

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Speaker 2: Do you call it submission then, submission from pop the

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Speaker 2: submission submission? I think you're deliberately right, Yes, submission.

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Speaker 7: To America specifically, well, I.

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Speaker 8: Think with the agreement that Jade Vance is working on,

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't call that submission to America.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't call it that. I think it's kind of

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Speaker 6: kicking the kicking the rock down. So you are you

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Speaker 6: not supportive of I'm supportive.

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Speaker 2: Of that type of deal, that type of frame work.

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Speaker 8: I'm supportive of us working toward that type of framework.

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Speaker 8: But I think in reality, if we look at in

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Speaker 8: the context of history and human nature and religious tendencies

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Speaker 8: and just everything that's kind of right in front of us,

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Speaker 8: I don't think that's a long term solution. But then

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Speaker 8: you mentioned regime change, and we've seen the last time

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Speaker 8: America helped out that world with the change and it

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Speaker 8: didn't go You know, Charlie Kirk touched on that a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did.

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Speaker 4: He was vehemently opposed to it as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 4: because the issue being, and you could apply this to

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Speaker 4: Iran if you did have a regime change, we don't

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Speaker 4: really know what the next domino to fall would be,

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Speaker 4: right because you could have sectarian strife, civil war, you

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Speaker 4: could have a masty asper of Iranians all throughout the

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Speaker 4: region the world.

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Speaker 10: Every regime change we've pursued has had dramatic effects, and

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Speaker 10: they were not the effects predicted.

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Speaker 2: Before we launched it.

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Speaker 10: I would I want to pose potentially a challenging question here,

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Speaker 10: which is some people say the Iran thing has gone

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Speaker 10: on long enough, we should unilaterally disengage, say we blew

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Speaker 10: up enough stuff that they're not going to get a

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Speaker 10: nuclear weapons soon, let's just leave and if they want

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Speaker 10: to close the Straight that's it affects others more than us.

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Speaker 10: Some people say the number one thing is Iran can't

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Speaker 10: have a nuclear weapon. They're not playing ball with peace.

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Speaker 10: We need to escalate, possibly including boots on the ground.

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Speaker 10: Some people say, you put to thousand guys on carg

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Speaker 10: Island and that will be enough.

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Speaker 2: Some people say they want more.

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Speaker 10: If the choice, if let's say Iran walks away from

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Speaker 10: the table completely says we're just blockading the straight deal

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Speaker 10: with it, would you prefer unilateral disengagement.

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Speaker 2: Or as boots on the ground. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: difficult question, but I for one have faith that we

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Speaker 2: can negotiate a peace deal because I think people know

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Speaker 2: not to mess around with Trump. I think that's been

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Speaker 2: proven through both terms at this point. But also I

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Speaker 2: think what happens is people don't necessarily see the timeline.

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Speaker 2: They see short term action, and they don't see the

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Speaker 2: end immediately, so they're just like, oh, we got to

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Speaker 2: pull out, we got to be done. Or I think

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Speaker 2: Trump and all these different scenarios, you see short term

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Speaker 2: action to prevent long term problems. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: what you kind of have to trust a little bit,

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Speaker 2: especially if you are somebody who trusted Trump with your vote.

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Speaker 2: That people know not to mess around with him, and

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Speaker 2: so I believe that if anybody could figure out a

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Speaker 2: piece deal with Iran, it would be Trump because people

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Speaker 2: know not to mess around with him.

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Speaker 6: I agree.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't trust a rand but I trust

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Speaker 8: Trump and I trust his administration to put America First,

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Speaker 8: as they have said, and do all that they can

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Speaker 8: to achieve a piece deal. And if that's not enough,

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Speaker 8: I trust them to make the decision whether to put

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Speaker 8: bits on the ground or not.

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Speaker 4: I have a different way of phrasing this, maybe it's

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Speaker 4: the simplest. Do you believe that the actions taken in

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Speaker 4: Iran is consistent with America First?

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Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, yeah, absolutely, yes, I would say mostly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, wow, agreement, Okay, would I putting them on

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Speaker 4: the I was, I think broadly less supportive of striking Iran.

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Speaker 4: As we often say, you can determine when you want

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Speaker 4: to start a war, but you can't necessarily determine when

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Speaker 4: you want to end a war. Right that being said,

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Speaker 4: try I acknowledge a couple of truths that a lot

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Speaker 4: of the isolationists.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a strict isolationist. I'm a mostly isolationist, but.

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Speaker 4: I believe the world is a very dark place if

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Speaker 4: America power is not projected in the world. In international affairs,

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Speaker 4: we are the most morally upright nation. We have the

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Speaker 4: most power and have abused it less than anybody any

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Speaker 4: other nations throughout history, and so our presence and our

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Speaker 4: willingness to peace through strength, I think is a really

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Speaker 4: important dynamic that other bad actors need to acknowledge before

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Speaker 4: doing bad things. That being said, I trusted that the

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Speaker 4: President probably had intel I did not, And as Charlie

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Speaker 4: would often say, this is why we work so hard

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Speaker 4: to get him elected, right, is because we trust him

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Speaker 4: with the hard decisions. He's the man for the hour,

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Speaker 4: so I give him a lot of leeway. And I'm

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Speaker 4: very supportive of jd Vance pursuing peace, some framework of peace,

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Speaker 4: because I think ultimately we have problems that we need

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Speaker 4: to address here a hum So that's my basic framework.

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Speaker 4: But I think is there anything on the international stage right?

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Speaker 4: We've talked a lot about iron now, and I want

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Speaker 4: to get back to domestic affairs. But I just wanted

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Speaker 4: to address that because it's in the news first, But

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Speaker 4: is there anything internationally that we haven't talked about that

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Speaker 4: you think is a larger concern, that's something that you

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Speaker 4: are concerned about or that you're hearing from your peers.

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Speaker 3: People talk about Is it China?

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Speaker 6: China a lot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in what context? Just them kind of their economy,

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Speaker 2: their economy being like the number one economy in what

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Speaker 2: they're capable of in the future. I mean, I think, well, we.

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Speaker 3: Are the number one.

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Speaker 10: Do they view this as a do they do they

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Speaker 10: see this as maybe just an amorphous threat. There's a

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Speaker 10: country that could become bigger or richer than us. Do

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Speaker 10: they see specific things? Do they worry about China doing

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Speaker 10: something to America, whether it's correct physically attacking us or

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Speaker 10: imposing censorship on us, or like dominating us in some way?

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Speaker 2: Do they ever get more specific? Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's more like, oh, like we kind of got to

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Speaker 2: be careful of China.

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Speaker 7: Obviously they're not the number one economy, but they are growing.

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Speaker 3: They're the number two. Yeah, I mean they're yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, they just landed a rocket all US space X

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Speaker 4: where they the rocket return and they caught in a platform,

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Speaker 4: which was noteworthy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, like, I even have Chinese friends at

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Speaker 2: school there. I mean, I'm fine with them. They're just

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Speaker 2: more like we get along, but I don't I'm not

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Speaker 2: too fearful of them attacking us. It's more like if

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Speaker 2: we get messed around with one of their allies.

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Speaker 4: Well, the taiwan ist you right, Taiwan is this the

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Speaker 4: China believes that Taiwan belongs to China. Taiwan has the

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Speaker 4: best chip manufacturing abilities in the world right now, China

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Speaker 4: is reliant upon second generation chips or chips that we

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Speaker 4: provide them. Then there's ongoing negotiations about that. So chips

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Speaker 4: in Taiwan specifically, when you talk about the technological battle,

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Speaker 4: is really where I think the next conflict is.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: But and then China has pursued its Button road initiatives,

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Speaker 4: buying up resources ports.

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Speaker 3: That's why the Panama Canal fight early on and Trump two.

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Speaker 2: Point zero was a big but big topic.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we want so? China was the main other

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Speaker 3: country that people.

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Speaker 9: Are looking at, so ahead, if I may, I think

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Speaker 9: what might be an even greater threat than that is

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Speaker 9: the spread of radical Islam in the West. I think

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Speaker 9: it's something we're not taking strongly enough. I think people

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Speaker 9: are taking it very lightly. Everybody wants to be accepting

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Speaker 9: with everybody in America, but quite frankly, Islam is incompatible

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Speaker 9: with Western values. And we've seen the examples of this

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Speaker 9: all across Europe, where cities are practically being taken over

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Speaker 9: by radical.

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Speaker 7: Islamis and the cities are turning.

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Speaker 9: Cities that were once really great, rich in history and

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Speaker 9: culture are now being outrun by tyranny.

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Speaker 3: And New York, yes, well you are.

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Speaker 9: You know, I call New York New York is stan.

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Speaker 9: I mean you have you have Times Square filled with

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Speaker 9: you know, Muslims called a prayer and the entire square

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Speaker 9: is filled with them.

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Speaker 10: And I mean it sounds it sounds like you can

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Speaker 10: say it sounds trail. But it's Birmingham, second largest city

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Speaker 10: in Britain. They are It's not merely that a lot

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Speaker 10: of Muslims live there, it's that now their elections are

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Speaker 10: won by independent Islamist candidates. There are explicitly Islamist political

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Speaker 10: parties that are getting seats in European parliaments. We're having

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Speaker 10: a Senate candidate in Michigan who might win, who will

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Speaker 10: have offer condolences because the Iatola died and that was

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Speaker 10: traumatic to people.

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Speaker 2: But he's also attacking his primary.

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Speaker 10: Opponent for voting for I believe a resolution honoring Charlie.

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Speaker 3: When he died.

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Speaker 10: And this sneaks up on you over time because people

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Speaker 10: aren't good at tracking demographic change and how quickly two

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Speaker 10: percent can go to four percent and go to twenty

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Speaker 10: percent and what effect that has.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: If I may just add one more point.

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Speaker 9: I mean it was incredible to me to see how

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Speaker 9: quickly things had changed in New York with the elected

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Speaker 9: mayor zo On Mamdani. I work in the New York

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Speaker 9: City Council, and within one week of him in office,

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Speaker 9: I saw changes in the New York City Council stated meetings,

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Speaker 9: how they started opening with Aslama Lakam, and I thought.

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Speaker 6: That was ridiculous. In America, I will say, I do

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Speaker 6: agree with you.

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Speaker 8: I think that's one of the most talked about international

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Speaker 8: issues that we have on college campuses. But at least

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Speaker 8: with my friends as well and people that I disagree

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Speaker 8: with on every other issue, we agree on that. But

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Speaker 8: I think that has to do with there's a tangibility

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Speaker 8: there for Americans that there isn't for like the Iran issue,

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Speaker 8: for the China issue yet it'll come. But right now

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Speaker 8: we're really feeling that, and we're looking over at our

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Speaker 8: European brothers and sisters, and in my opinion, I think

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Speaker 8: most of Europe has fallen to redical Islam. And that

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Speaker 8: breaks my heart because that's, you know, so much of

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Speaker 8: the core Western civilization is there in Spain and France,

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Speaker 8: and I see it really is heartbreaking. But there's a

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Speaker 8: tangibility there from a domestic perspective because we see that.

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Speaker 6: As America and we're hoorrah America.

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Speaker 8: And we see what's happening in Europe at how fast

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Speaker 8: it happened, and domestically we're like, we we can't do that.

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Speaker 6: So there is a united So what what.

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Speaker 4: Do you think the solution should be? What do you

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Speaker 4: guys want to see happen on that issue? Should we

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Speaker 4: just ban all Muslims coming in the in the country?

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Speaker 3: Should what? I mean, seriously what.

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Speaker 5: Some people do think that, But I I don't think

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Speaker 5: that is the American way. I mean, I think it's.

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Speaker 6: Important to recognize and educate.

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Speaker 5: It always comes back to education, which our education system

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Speaker 5: is failing us.

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Speaker 6: But to educate ourselves.

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Speaker 5: On why it's not compatible and why it cannot ultimately

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Speaker 5: be the overlapping religion that Americans have to.

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Speaker 6: Put up with every day.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, unfortunately, a lot of it does have to do

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Speaker 8: with illegal immigration. We don't even know how many scenarios

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Speaker 8: we have America, well.

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Speaker 3: Most of most of the US.

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Speaker 2: Most of the Muslim immigrations in the United States is legal.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if that's true, Like up in you

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Speaker 8: guys all, who's Nick Shirley, He's here right, baffle situation.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that a lot of those were there

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Speaker 6: are some.

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Speaker 2: Lot of them are criminals, but yeah, there was.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of people from all kinds of

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Speaker 4: countries coming through the southern border and some through the

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Speaker 4: northern border when Joe Biden was president, and I think

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Speaker 4: we've we've dealt with most of that. So there are

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Speaker 4: some illegals, but the vast majority of immigration from Muslim

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Speaker 4: countries into the United States has been straight up through

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Speaker 4: legal immigration. Are you guys aware, for example, that we

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Speaker 4: have one point two million green cards, those are legal

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Speaker 4: green cards issued every year. One point two million. That's

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Speaker 4: the population of more than Montana. That's the population of

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Speaker 4: Arkansas every three years. That we're just adding from all

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Speaker 4: over the world all the time. And so when Blake

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Speaker 4: talks about the demographic ships, how quickly it happens, that's why.

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Speaker 3: And then they are the birth rates are much higher

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Speaker 3: among ye was going to be another point.

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Speaker 10: I was going to bring in one refugee Somalian who

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Speaker 10: gets the green card.

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Speaker 2: They can then.

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Speaker 10: Sponsor spouses, children, parents. They can have three to seven

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Speaker 10: to ten children with their spouse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, spouses.

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Speaker 4: I've had three uber rides since I've been in DC

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Speaker 4: for this event, three and all three were Muslim drivers,

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Speaker 4: and two of the three got just diversity vis a

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Speaker 4: green cards. So we're just bringing We're just it's diversity.

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Speaker 6: Well you were STU. What should we do?

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Speaker 8: Should we put them on a boat and center houn

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Speaker 8: or I don't necessarily think that. But like there's a

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Speaker 8: word assimilation, and I think that's very very important now

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Speaker 8: when we talk about that, we've grown up it in

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Speaker 8: a nation where Christian values are the foundation of our nation, right,

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Speaker 8: and we understand that because we've grown up that you

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Speaker 8: have secular people here, you have atheists, you have Jewish

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Speaker 8: people here, all of these things, but we understand that

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Speaker 8: we've grown up in these values.

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Speaker 6: These are the morals that we've grown up in it.

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Speaker 8: What happens when that stops being the foundation that we have,

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Speaker 8: When that stops being the majority of value, I personally

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Speaker 8: think we should be there is how I put this.

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Speaker 8: I don't agree with the idea that diversity is a strike.

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Speaker 8: I'm pro diversity. I like diversity of thought. I like

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Speaker 8: diversity of ideas. I think these are really great ideas.

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Speaker 8: But diversity of values is a totally separate thing, and

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Speaker 8: I think they get convoluted a lot.

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Speaker 6: Diversity is important.

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Speaker 8: I'm a Puerto Rican, Dominican, Irish Scott, I'm the American

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Speaker 8: melthing pot. I think it's important, and I think it's

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Speaker 8: beautiful in a lot of ways. But I'm pro America.

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Speaker 8: I'm pro American values. I'm America first.

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Speaker 6: And that's where I think we kind of disconnect it.

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Speaker 6: When people say, oh, we shouldn't.

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Speaker 8: Have diversity, you get labeled as a racist really quickly.

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Speaker 8: But there's nothing wrong with wanting homogeneity.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with wanting to look over at your.

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Speaker 8: Neighbor and understand, hey, we both believe these morals and

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Speaker 8: we can rely on that. So what to do about it?

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Speaker 8: I think we should be stricter if who were letting

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Speaker 8: in not like whether or not they want to support

885
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 8: the country, But why are they supporting the country?

886
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 6: What are they wanting to put into us?

887
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 8: What are they wanting to rebuild?

888
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 7: The nuclear family?

889
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 6: Right? Part of it is also the birth rate for Americans.

890
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 9: I'm sorry before we move on, I just you mentioned

891
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 9: one word that really resonates with me.

892
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 7: Assimilation.

893
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 9: My grandparents came here from Italy through Ellis Island, and

894
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 9: they became citizens. They assimilated into our culture. They were

895
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 9: proud to be Americans, and they reminded me of that

896
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 9: every day that they were alive. While my grandfather was

897
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 9: on his deathbed back in twenty twenty, he was so

898
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 9: proud to be able to send in a mail in

899
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 9: ballot for President Trump. And you know, in the end,

900
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 9: that was almost one of his only reasons for wanting

901
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 9: to live, was to be able to re elect Trump

902
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 9: and you know, leave this place with some hope, you know,

903
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 9: when he unites with Christ in heaven. But they were

904
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 9: proud to be Americans, and they reminded me every day

905
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 9: how proud I should be to be an American. And

906
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 9: they weren't fleeing some communist country. They were fleeing Italy,

907
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 9: beautiful and they came here and told me how how

908
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 9: much better America was and how much opportunity that they

909
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 9: had here that they didn't have over there. So, you know,

910
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 9: seeing how they integrated into our culture and assimilated and

911
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 9: became citizens, learned English, were proud to be Americans, I think, well,

912
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 9: that's a unique example.

913
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a beautiful story and I love that.

914
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: And you're right, we've had America had a long tradition

915
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: of successful assimilation a lot if you look at the

916
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: story though, the Anglo Americans, right, the English Anglos that

917
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 4: were the predominant group here. Originally, they didn't want the

918
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: eighteen eighty to nineteen twenties immigration waves. They were very

919
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: concerned about that because you were taking in a lot

920
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: of Eastern Europeans, Southern Europeans. It was it was a

921
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: it stressed out the country a lot, actually, and then

922
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 4: we had the Great Depression of World War two that

923
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 4: brought a lot of people together.

924
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: And we should also note.

925
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 10: That we say assimilation, and it is that your grandparents

926
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 10: became dramatically more American, but it is also the case

927
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 10: that America.

928
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: Became a little bit more Italian as a result. And

929
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: like even here, you know, we can still tell you're

930
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: an Italian guy from New York.

931
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 10: We don't go like, oh, I thought you were this Englishman,

932
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 10: because there still is those visible differences exist even if

933
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 10: someone is very assimilated.

934
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: And there is difference that there's distance between cultures.

935
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 4: And this is I think another point that you guys

936
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: are kind of approximately approximately making. It's one thing to

937
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: assimilate an Italian Catholic into a Christian Protestant nation. It's

938
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: a whole other thing to then but you know they're

939
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: both Christians. It's another thing entirely to bring a Somalian

940
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 4: that has grown up in a failed state government that's

941
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: mostly corruption and you know, there's really no infrastructure involved,

942
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 4: right and bringing them in And so when you see

943
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 4: the Somalian uh, you know, fraud schemes in Minneapolis, you

944
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 4: shouldn't be surprised because that's actually the culture that they're

945
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 4: bringing into the country good.

946
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 9: And this is what I don't understand is that these

947
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 9: people are fleeing their country's origin in search of a

948
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 9: better life just to come here and try to replicate

949
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 9: what felled over there. I can't, for the life of me,

950
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 9: understand why.

951
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: They would do that. You come to the United.

952
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 9: States for a better life treated as such, you know,

953
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 9: you have the right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness.

954
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: Here locustly for a better life too.

955
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 8: Right, if we're getting their opinions, what you're asking about, Andrew,

956
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 8: you're keep asking for the solution.

957
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 6: You're getting into a lot of really hot button issues.

958
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 8: And I'm not scared of a hot button issue, but

959
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 8: there is, you know, there's a humanitarian issue that.

960
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 6: You have to work with. Like when you ask about

961
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 6: what the solutions to an economic issue, I'm.

962
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 4: Asking, I'm asking what I'm really What I'm getting at

963
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: is it is a very challenging topic.

964
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: So we have the Islamification of the West.

965
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: That's the topic, which is also an immigration question, which

966
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 4: is also an assimilation and domestic question because they're already

967
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: here at least some are right right now that I

968
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: would say the issue is more on the manageable side,

969
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: but it's becoming in New York and Michigan in places,

970
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: it's starting to become much more front and center. So

971
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 4: if the question is, hey, you guys are young people,

972
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: gen Z, you're in college, what do you have a

973
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 4: stomach for the types of solutions that it would require

974
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 4: to actually fix it or does it sound too drastic?

975
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 4: That's really what I'm getting at. The Other thing is

976
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: I'm curious what all of your friends and tears.

977
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: Feel about this topic.

978
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Are they ready to actually address this topic?

979
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

980
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: I think a large part of it is it's an

981
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 2: identity issue. If you ask fifty people on the street

982
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: what does it mean to be an American citizen, I

983
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: think you're going to get fifty different answers, and none

984
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: of them are remotely close to one another. Along with that,

985
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean like, if we just go back to American history,

986
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: look at the Founding Fathers, John Adams said, our Constitution

987
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: was written for a moral and religious nation. How many

988
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: people would consider America a moral and religious nation. I'm

989
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: not too sure. And I think that's an important thing.

990
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: And so you can obviously you have a religon just

991
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 2: freedom in America, and that's a beautiful thing. However, if

992
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: your religious freedom ends up not morally aligning with the

993
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: Constitution and America, then I think that's.

994
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: A valid question to ask, Well, do you guys understand

995
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: that in the Founding generation they had professions of faith

996
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 4: in order to serve right so and they weren't If

997
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 4: you had a Muslim profession of faith that I don't

998
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: think you would have had a snowball's chance in hell

999
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 4: to get in and serve in the government of your state.

1000
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: So their idea of religious freedom is much different than

1001
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: our modern concept of it. Their idea was, well, you

1002
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: can be Anglican, you can be Quaker, you can be

1003
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: a Christian of different denominational.

1004
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: Background and variety. A Protestant, yeah, yeah, most states.

1005
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't even be a Catholic at that point.

1006
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: So our conceptions of this have changed over the years.

1007
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 8: Right, Well, you were asking do you think that people

1008
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 8: around us are just our generation is ready for what

1009
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 8: could be like an extreme.

1010
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Do they care about this topic enough?

1011
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 8: I would say yes first, But also part of it

1012
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 8: is is a lot of it is happening subliminate, subliminally,

1013
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 8: to where unless you have like a pulse for what's happening,

1014
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 8: a lot of it, you just feel it. Kind of Generally,

1015
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 8: people will describe I have a lot of friends who

1016
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 8: don't contit themselves political. I have a lot of friends

1017
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 8: who consider themselves opposite to where I am. But there

1018
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 8: is a general sense in our generation of we're not

1019
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 8: really united, Like none of us are really together. What

1020
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 8: you were talking about with identity one of the things

1021
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 8: that kind of showed us what it kind of looked

1022
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 8: like back in your ears and day with the dinosaurs,

1023
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 8: for what it looks like to be a little bit

1024
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 8: more united. You know, the nixt game that was happening,

1025
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 8: like that was crazy.

1026
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 6: He's like, America, this is awesome. And we had a

1027
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 6: taste of like, oh, this is what it feels like

1028
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 6: to be hoorah. We're all in line for this thing.

1029
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 6: You know, this is great.

1030
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 8: We see it a lot when the Olympics happened, like

1031
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 8: no one's warm, proud to be an American and renimits.

1032
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there is a world. Yeah yeah, we took them.

1033
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, showed up for that one.

1034
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.

1035
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 8: But a lot of it has to do with the

1036
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 8: kind of the stuff that I was talking about at

1037
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 8: the beginning of this conversation, stuff that leaves a sour

1038
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 8: taste in your mouth because of the con but not

1039
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 8: because it's morally a bad idea establishment of what it

1040
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 8: means to be an American, And it doesn't have to

1041
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 8: be hard fast. You have to look this way, you

1042
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,959
Speaker 8: have to believe this thing, but there are certain ways

1043
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 8: that you have to act in certain ways that you

1044
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 8: can't act if you want to that I join it.

1045
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 10: Well, so I was thinking, so just spanning on that,

1046
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 10: even do they have a stomach of things?

1047
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: What do people say about immigration?

1048
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 10: Do they feel they grow up in an era that

1049
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 10: is one hundred percent high immigration the whole time? Do

1050
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 10: young people do they talk about that? Do they say

1051
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 10: I want less of it? Do they say I want

1052
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 10: less of it from specific countries?

1053
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: What do they say? People don't understand it. I mean,

1054
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: I've heard liberals tell me, oh, why is Trump supporting

1055
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: ice and deporting all these people?

1056
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 7: Do you know what happened during the Obama administration? Like

1057
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 7: what are we doing?

1058
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 6: You know?

1059
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: And I fully one support ice because one the safety

1060
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 2: you see statistics of people. There's just a UMass soccer

1061
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: star who passed away from like a Uzbekistan wherever made

1062
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: up country You got hit by a car on Star

1063
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: warstrics but yeah, yeah, the singing Aliens. But he just

1064
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: got hit by a car and got killed by an

1065
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: illegal immigrant.

1066
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 7: And that's just like part of it.

1067
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: But people are blind to the fact at least and

1068
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: as as far as the other party goes to what

1069
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: we're doing in America now, And to kind of touch

1070
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: back on what you said is like people are talking

1071
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: about but I think they're ill informed and I think

1072
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: there is some propaganda in America that we're unfortunately subject

1073
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: to in schools.

1074
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: This is a great question just brought yes or no.

1075
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: You and your.

1076
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 4: Friend group, so it's not your opinion, but just your

1077
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 4: wider campus community.

1078
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: Are they supportive advice or not?

1079
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: Campus?

1080
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: No friends?

1081
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: Yes?

1082
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: Both, Yes, both are supportive. Where are you at again, Liberty?

1083
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't want to speak for the campus, but

1084
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: as far as the reception, yeah, oh yeah, definitely against

1085
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: ice against no.

1086
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 6: What's your campus against clenchivers against Ice?

1087
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: It's just split about I'd say sadly no, especially from

1088
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 2: a Christian college.

1089
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 5: Is sadly a small majority support ICE, but I think

1090
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 5: a larger majority would if the media portrayed them differently

1091
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 5: and their most I would agree with under Christino.

1092
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I think Minneapolis was just as far

1093
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 4: as a public perception. I mean, I have a lot

1094
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 4: of very aggressive thoughts about what happened in Minneapolis because

1095
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 4: they were basically like comic we call them Kama Kazi Karens.

1096
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 3: They were just like going in.

1097
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 4: There trying to cause a problem and then uh, you know,

1098
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 4: they played stupid games and won stupid prizes.

1099
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: That being said, I can't.

1100
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: Deny that from a pr standpoint, it was a bad

1101
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 4: moment for Ice, right.

1102
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 3: It turned a lot of people like, what are we doing?

1103
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: Is so aggressive?

1104
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 4: You see Joe Rogan you know, kind of turned on

1105
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: everything at that point too.

1106
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: So there was not too much stomach for the scenes

1107
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 3: that played out in Minneapolis.

1108
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 4: So they think they've been pursuing a calmer more behind

1109
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 4: the scenes, trying to work with local prisons. Immigration, though,

1110
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: is a so if I said to the said to

1111
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: you guys, I propose an immigration mora torum and net

1112
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 4: zero immigration more torm let's explain what that is. Every year,

1113
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 4: about two hundred thousand people leave the country to go

1114
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: live somewhere else. You know, maybe you know a lot

1115
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 4: people don't realize this. When the eighteen eighties nineteen twenties

1116
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: big immigration wave happened, I think it was about was

1117
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: it half ended up going about a third went home.

1118
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: There wasn't the social safety nets, there wasn't government programs.

1119
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: There wasn't NGOs applying you a lawyer to argue your case,

1120
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: and none of that existed. So if you couldn't cut, it,

1121
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: couldn't hack, it got too hard, you went back home

1122
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: to your family, went back home to Italy or wherever Poland.

1123
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: So nowadays we have about two hundred thousand people that

1124
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: just leave. Right if you said net zero immigration more

1125
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: torn would be like if somebody leaves, that makes a

1126
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 4: spot for somebody else to come. Other than that, there

1127
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 4: is no place. Let's do it for ten years. Does

1128
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 4: that sound too aggressive? Does that sound just right? Would

1129
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 4: you be supportive of it? How does that make you feel?

1130
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: And we can start over here and.

1131
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 3: Go this way?

1132
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 6: We're being quite friend.

1133
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1134
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fun.

1135
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: I think immigration is one of those topics. And I

1136
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: think immigration oftentimes kills Western culture civilizations, and I think

1137
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: that would be an okay thing. But once again, I

1138
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: think your standard for who's coming in the country you

1139
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: have to set in stone. What does it You're only

1140
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: going to get really great people.

1141
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 3: Let's just assume for this, say.

1142
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: Got some bold really great people.

1143
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: All right, Well tell me we don't even have to

1144
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 4: do a net zero could just be a flat out.

1145
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: No new people. Like I'm just saying I want to

1146
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: get where you're how that makes you feel, like, what

1147
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 3: would you be supportive or not?

1148
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: I would be supportive if our birth rate and replacement

1149
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: rate was better because I think abortion plays significantly into

1150
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: that as well well. So, but it is what it

1151
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: is right now.

1152
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: So you would rather have the current status quote one

1153
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: point two million new people coming in the country legally

1154
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 4: every year.

1155
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree, yes, for the most part, with it.

1156
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: Because so you're worried about a declining population, don't.

1157
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: Okay, correct, I.

1158
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 8: Would support what you're describing, but I don't think you

1159
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 8: could get it past system to the American people, Okay.

1160
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: I support it, And also I don't think they'd ever

1161
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: be able to do it as far as like, are

1162
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: we into deep kind of.

1163
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 3: We you know, if people probably need to.

1164
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 4: So there was a Heart Seller Act in the sixties,

1165
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: and then in nineteen ninety we took it from basically

1166
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 4: a half million a year. I was actually in some

1167
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: cases like three seventy five a year to the current levels.

1168
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 4: So pre nineteen ninety we had let's just say, half

1169
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: of the numbers.

1170
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: Of green cards were currently issued.

1171
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 2: Just so you're aware of it.

1172
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 8: And I think it's a really hard thing, and I

1173
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 8: don't think it could be done, especially with our.

1174
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: So you feel like the political will would not be there, it.

1175
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be agree especially with gen Z.

1176
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 6: There's so there's so much about.

1177
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 3: Ankle will can change.

1178
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: Do you like the idea?

1179
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 6: I think it's a hard thing to do, but.

1180
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 8: I think it is a good idea and it could

1181
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 8: be done if I am I need to be done.

1182
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: I think it's a great question.

1183
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 9: It's one i've never actually heard proposed before, I believe

1184
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 9: it or not. But where I actually stand on it,

1185
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 9: and I'm not one hundred percent sure at this moment.

1186
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 7: I think it could be.

1187
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 9: It could definitely segue into a longer discussion, which I

1188
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 9: don't want to rail the roundtable with.

1189
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: But that's fine.

1190
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: So so okay.

1191
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 4: In general, do you wish there was less immigration and

1192
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 4: do you think you think that would be supportive?

1193
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1194
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 6: I wish. I don't think less is the right word.

1195
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 8: I wish there were more tactical immigration getting higher quality

1196
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 8: and getting higher quality.

1197
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 7: Yes, and yeah, of certain people, I.

1198
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 6: Think a little less in what on what she professes?

1199
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 9: Well, Ken, if you come here for a better life

1200
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 9: and you assimblate and assimilate into our culture and genuinely

1201
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 9: appreciate America America for the opportunity it's giving you.

1202
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: Then I don't have an issue with you being here.

1203
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: I also think it's funny because in her proposition, where

1204
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: if you're more tactical about it, I also think if

1205
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: you were more tax call, you would.

1206
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: Have I actually, he's not the same thing before.

1207
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 4: I'm like, so, you're telling me that all the things

1208
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 4: our government can't do very well, that we are completely

1209
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: just great at bringing in one point too, they're vetting

1210
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: one point two million people every year. We like really

1211
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Speaker 4: like checking all their social media making sure they didn't

1212
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Speaker 4: say death to America. Yeah, it's a it's a farce

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Speaker 4: Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, false comforts, and impossible

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Speaker 4: choices on his long journey home. As one of the

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Speaker 4: for Hillsdale dot com. Big Big topics. These are great,

1233
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: which this has been really fun. Let's get more personal

1234
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 4: the well, there's I want to get into affordability, housing, jobs,

1235
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: all that stuff. But I've been waiting for this topics.

1236
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna get into it. Relationships.

1237
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: Dating, Yeah, the.

1238
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 4: Conflict that I've heard so much about between guys and

1239
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: girls in gen Z.

1240
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 3: Is it real?

1241
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 6: He said you were waiting for this topic.

1242
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 8: Did you think we were going to segue from Iran

1243
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 8: and radical Islam to dating and America?

1244
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 6: It's actually going to happen.

1245
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: From immigration to dating.

1246
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better.

1247
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: So you're being very so is the is the what's

1248
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: it like dating out there?

1249
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: Do you feel like the men and women are at

1250
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: each other's next little bit here?

1251
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 6: Or I think it could go.

1252
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 5: The fault goes on both genders quite frankly, I think.

1253
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: But do you you acknowledge that it's a problem?

1254
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: Okay?

1255
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: Do you think generally speaking, the dating pool is not

1256
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: very good?

1257
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 6: Yes?

1258
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: Okay, what about you?

1259
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 6: Dating's rough right now? Man? It's bad here?

1260
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: You what are the so?

1261
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: Not good? Not good? I mean it's hard to find

1262
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: a Christian woman out there that's nice, so maybe not

1263
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: a disable, but as far as outside of it.

1264
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I would agree it is rough.

1265
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 6: I'm at a point where I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna

1266
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 6: focus on me.

1267
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 8: I'm going to focus on my career, on schooling, and

1268
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 8: if God brings me a man, then he'll put them

1269
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 8: in my path.

1270
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 6: And that's what it's going to be.

1271
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 8: I'm not going to go out looking because I've failed

1272
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 8: at that for sure.

1273
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 9: It's funny you put it that way, because the second

1274
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 9: I said that to myself is when I found my

1275
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 9: beautiful girlfriend, who I'm very grateful to have met.

1276
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: It's like finding a diamond in the rough, in a

1277
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: in a needle, in a terrible Yeah.

1278
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but I think, sorry, we're going to say them.

1279
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: Where you going to say something next year?

1280
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 8: I think an issue that we're seeing a lot of it.

1281
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 8: You keep mentioning education, and I agree with you. I

1282
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 8: think the way that we have grown up, we've we've

1283
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 8: heard these words like dating to Mary and like courting

1284
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 8: and all the things, and whether or not you're Christian.

1285
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 8: There's a lot of you would call it like dating

1286
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 8: intentionally or dating with purpose, and we're saying these words.

1287
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 8: And I don't think it's necessarily sad.

1288
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 6: There's faults on both genders. I would agree with that,

1289
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 6: but I don't think we're.

1290
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 8: In the as genders as a generation. I think that's

1291
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 8: too vast to say that.

1292
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 6: I think we're all.

1293
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 8: Very confused, and I think we all have not gotten

1294
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 8: proper guidance. A lot of that has to do with

1295
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 8: the gender ideology insanity that started. It's been going on

1296
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 8: for a long time, but really picked up at twenty thirteen.

1297
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 8: We've in this generation, we've grown up with the idea

1298
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 8: that we don't know who men are, we don't know

1299
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 8: who women are. So it's less like we're all just unsavable,

1300
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 8: vapid creatures who can't find husbands and wives.

1301
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 6: I think it's more like we're all really.

1302
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 8: Confused and scared, and men can't ask women out without

1303
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 8: being me too, and women can't do anything without I.

1304
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 4: Have a question for the men on that topic, and

1305
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: then I'll help Blake correct the sexes and genders think

1306
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 4: the six gender is actually invented.

1307
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't need to talk.

1308
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: We have two sexes to sexiest.

1309
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Speaker 4: That's what it is, all right, So, men, do you

1310
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 4: feel concerned, nervous, scared, fearful that you might be me too?

1311
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Speaker 3: As she said, when.

1312
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 4: You ask a woman out or when you try and

1313
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 4: you know with them or them in some way.

1314
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: I've been through it already, so it doesn't scare me. See. Okay,

1315
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: that's interesting.

1316
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for another podcast.

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Speaker 2: What what do I mean by that?

1318
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 4: Is just it could mean anything, but it essentially if

1319
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Speaker 4: you approach a woman, are you worried that you could

1320
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 4: be accused of being a toxically masculine, aggressive mil.

1321
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 9: But I am approaching one of those, So we're doing

1322
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 9: that the department.

1323
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 10: I think the bigger picture is if we're saying both

1324
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 10: sides of college, it's very difficult, what are the substantive

1325
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 10: drivers of that difficulty?

1326
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: So actually, I think social I think social media is

1327
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: really bad too.

1328
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said social media is well.

1329
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: I said hookup culture. And in colleges especially, I mean it.

1330
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean even that where I go to school, it's

1331
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: that's like what happens like people you get their freshman

1332
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: year and it's like, oh, the hook culture. People passing

1333
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 2: on from those that are you look up to, either

1334
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: on a sports team or you're sorety or frat. It's

1335
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: like normalized in a way. And if you don't go

1336
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: to like Liberty University, I'm sure where it's more like

1337
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: Christian base, you're dating intentionally that's very detrimental to just

1338
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: like these people don't want families, at least that I've

1339
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: run into, and I've had to come out of relationships

1340
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: with people who don't want a family, or.

1341
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 4: Maybe they're under the impression that this is the time

1342
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 4: to have fun and I'll do the family thing later.

1343
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, I will say, I do go

1344
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: to a small Christian university, and you would be shocked

1345
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: about how much of a bad dating culture and look

1346
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: culture that.

1347
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1348
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting because I really like what you

1349
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: brought up saying that, like, oh, you're young, have fun.

1350
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: I've had this conversation with multiple people. You're twenty, like

1351
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: you're not that young. Actually, by the way, it sneaks

1352
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: up on you real quick.

1353
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it really does.

1354
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 4: Like when you're twenty five, you will be thirty in

1355
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 4: like a blink, and you're younger.

1356
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 3: So it happens very, very quick.

1357
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: And I think there is a lack of appreciation just

1358
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 4: for how fast time goes, right, we know in scriptures

1359
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 4: says you know, life is fleeting, right, and so I

1360
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 4: don't think young people are good at acknowledging things. And

1361
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 4: I know it's a dirty were or dirty expression, but

1362
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 4: the biological clock is real, right, it is for everybody.

1363
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the question is, you know, hookup culture,

1364
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 4: social media, Christian university. Would you agree that the some

1365
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 4: of this is even happening at some of it.

1366
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, right.

1367
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's no disrespect to Liberty.

1368
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 3: It just happens.

1369
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 8: We have furries too, you know, at Liberty University.

1370
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 6: It's kind of bonkers.

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01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, for you three, you mentioned you have a girlfriend,

1372
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 8: and you've also mentioned that you've been me too and whatever.

1373
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, so if you want to know more about that,

1374
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 9: I'm definitely opening.

1375
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: So where are you going?

1376
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 6: Are you guys looking for a relationship with people? Are

1377
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 6: you guys like actively yeah.

1378
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 7: Looking for today in Teshlo.

1379
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 6: So what do you think it.

1380
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 8: Has been the biggest I'm asking you three because you're

1381
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 8: men obviously, what do you think has been the biggest

1382
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 8: separation between the looking for it and the receiving it,

1383
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 8: like actually getting that.

1384
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: I think also part of the problem is men are

1385
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: so scared that she'll just say no because of cancel culture,

1386
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: because of social media, and because it's this big deal

1387
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: to be rejected now, which that's okay, Like there's a

1388
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: reason that the term is the worst that she can

1389
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: say is no. Like that's true. Like if you go

1390
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: up and approach a woman who's you know, a woman

1391
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:27,959
Speaker 2: of God, she has everything you like, you ask ground

1392
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 2: and she says no, Like, oh, I'm interested in this

1393
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: or not looking for relationship. Great, so what you gained experience,

1394
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: you were confident and you made a good choice and

1395
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: it just didn't work out. If you think in life

1396
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 2: every single situation is going to work out that you

1397
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: try to go for, you're not probably going to get.

1398
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 6: Very far to cure fun of your person.

1399
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And you learn and also you learn how

1400
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: to deal with that and realize that not every single

1401
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: time it's your problem, but also if it is something

1402
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: that you did learn from that and become a better

1403
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: human being through that.

1404
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 4: You said you think one of the main drivers for

1405
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: men not being confident asking women out because girls would

1406
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 4: you say that that's a problem Guys don't ask. They're

1407
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 4: not they're not being leaders in that way, they're not

1408
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 4: being okay, so that's a frustration, Yeah, making mental men.

1409
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 6: I have never been asked out ever once. Oh wow, Yeah,

1410
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 6: it doesn't have that Okay, So this is like and

1411
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 6: there are other women. I'm not just saying to you,

1412
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 6: but like.

1413
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, perhaps, yeah, perhaps when I was in college, what

1414
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 4: it was probably trending down, but it was not this bad.

1415
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1416
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 3: The you said people are scared of rejection.

1417
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 4: Men are scared of rejection because that's become a really

1418
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 4: big thing.

1419
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: What did you mean by that? Like it? I mean

1420
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 3: men have been.

1421
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: Probably scared of rejection from you know, time immemorial here,

1422
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 4: but you're thinking right now because of social media or

1423
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 4: because Okay, so because if you say, if you get rejected,

1424
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: then it's going to be on social media every he's

1425
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 4: gonna be talking about it.

1426
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: Is a big Let me ask you through your question. Kay,

1427
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: you said you've never been asked out formally on a date.

1428
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 3: Have you?

1429
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you've talked and Florida than had guys who

1430
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: are interested though in some capacity in high school. Okay, great,

1431
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: I would say probably for all three, I would almost

1432
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: guarantee you've had an encounter like that where it wasn't

1433
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: face to face and it was all over the falls.

1434
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1435
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's because you have a screen to

1436
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: hide behind, and men are so scared of just putting

1437
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: themselves out there and having a face to face human conversation,

1438
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: which is I mean scared though because of the rejection,

1439
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: and I think it's as people are saw.

1440
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 8: So I'm very curious. I want you to unpack this mare.

1441
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 8: I usually when i'm talking about that with my friends,

1442
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 8: I usually attribute that to them being scared that I

1443
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 8: described as getting me too. But the woman is going

1444
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 8: to post that and say that she made her feel

1445
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 8: uncomfortable and scared of almost the more legal ramifications. Is

1446
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 8: it more the embarrassment and rejection aspect of it?

1447
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: Well, I think in our generation specifically, gossip is a

1448
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: huge issue, especially on college camp sensu.

1449
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, cancel court, and then's social media now social.

1450
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 2: Media through friend groups and whatnot. Like, for example, I

1451
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: asked this girl out, she says no, I guarantee you

1452
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: within hours and maybe minutes. Every single girl that she's

1453
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: close to knows back home, family all knows about the situation.

1454
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: He can't do anything sure directly, And I think, like

1455
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: that's the that's like the hard part about it is

1456
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: like if I ask the girl out and she says no,

1457
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: why is that such a bad thing? And why do

1458
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: you have to demean the other person so much?

1459
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 7: From that?

1460
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: You should feel honored in some sense, in some sense

1461
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: should be able to be like, oh, have a little

1462
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: bit of respect that the man was able to put

1463
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: himself out there and be willing to be rejected. That's

1464
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: part of the risk is you have to be willing

1465
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: to be rejected.

1466
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 9: Yes, And people can say anything about anybody and it

1467
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 9: doesn't necessarily have to be true for your name to

1468
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 9: be defamed and for people to change their view about you,

1469
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 9: especially with social media.

1470
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm telling this, but it's.

1471
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 9: Not like I'm talking to the sixth of you, Like

1472
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 9: I can make one post on social media and reach thousands,

1473
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 9: maybe even millions, depending on what my platform is. So

1474
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 9: you know, that threat is real and it's something that

1475
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 9: I personally experienced for things that I needed to do.

1476
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 7: I was the one rejecting the person.

1477
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 9: And they took it very poorly and resorted to social

1478
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 9: media to defame me because they couldn't handle being rejected.

1479
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 7: It's it's ridiculous.

1480
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 6: No, do you agree with what they're saying or do.

1481
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: You have a different I would say, well, I'm glad

1482
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: you asked me because I'm I'm more of like the

1483
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: kind of buck that would go out and be like, hey,

1484
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: would you go on a date with me. I think

1485
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of athletes on my team that are Oh,

1486
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: I've seen some guys that are very open for going

1487
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: up to a woman, and especially I mean, are you

1488
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 2: looking in the right spot, and like the difficulty finding

1489
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 2: I think is more challenging for me finding someone that

1490
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: I want.

1491
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 3: Asking, you know.

1492
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 2: And I think I was watching a video of Charlie

1493
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 2: two summers ago and it was the best advice I've

1494
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 2: ever had a dating and it's sell on your phone,

1495
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: which kind of sucks, but he was like, you got

1496
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 2: a date someone that has the same ideals as you.

1497
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 2: And I remember that video vividly because I'm like, oh, shoot,

1498
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: like that's probably why I haven't had a girlfriend. And

1499
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 2: I've had relationships with people, but it's like it never

1500
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: got to that point because I'm like, oh, like she

1501
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: believes this. She doesn't really like going to church, she's

1502
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: an atheist. And I'm like, oh, like there's something there

1503
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: where I'm like, why would I pursue something that I

1504
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: can't see raising my children?

1505
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 4: This is this is great intel because I think Blake

1506
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 4: and I probably would like we've internalized these kind of

1507
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 4: principles like.

1508
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: Of course you need to date a Christian. Are you

1509
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 3: a Christian?

1510
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: You need to date a Christian? And by the way,

1511
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 4: what kind of Christian do they believe?

1512
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 3: The Bible?

1513
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 6: They are?

1514
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: Are they praying?

1515
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 4: Are they going to church, like, yeah, absolutely, you need

1516
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 4: to fish where they are and you need to make

1517
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 4: sure that you're getting high quality candidates, right, But I

1518
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 4: think it's interesting for the women here to So you've

1519
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 4: never been asked out, you've you're complaining that it's a problem.

1520
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been asked out, If you've

1521
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 4: been asked out, what do you want to see from

1522
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 4: the men of your generation?

1523
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 3: More?

1524
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: And you can talk personally or talk like maybe you

1525
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 4: and your girlfriends have complained.

1526
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 3: What are you complaining about right now?

1527
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 6: To your point, I think more courage.

1528
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 5: I don't think there's anything wrong in being shibo riffs,

1529
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 5: but it goes back to being me too.

1530
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 6: If men are scared, and not that I'm.

1531
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 4: Like not some of us, but you think they're scared,

1532
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 4: I don't.

1533
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 6: It's all very complicated, and to be honest with you,

1534
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 6: I think if we do.

1535
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 3: You want to the young men of your.

1536
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 6: Generation, I think church date, Yes, definitely, a very a

1537
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 6: lot of guys.

1538
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 8: Most men right now, most young men in our generation,

1539
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 8: they just they don't know what they're doing.

1540
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 6: And that's not in dating.

1541
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 8: That's everywhere because no one's showing them like it's you're

1542
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 8: in trouble for being born as a man these days,

1543
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 8: I don't blame you for being scared to learn how

1544
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 8: to be a good man.

1545
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 6: So I'm going to answer your specific question and not

1546
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 6: going a soapbox.

1547
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 8: I would agree courage is a big thing. I would

1548
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 8: say intentionality Individually. A woman is going to respond very

1549
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 8: well to a man who says I'm going to college

1550
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 8: for this, this is what I'm gonna do, this is

1551
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 8: my plan, this is my passion, this is my conviction, this.

1552
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 6: Is where I want to be. And it doesn't have

1553
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 6: to be all spelled out.

1554
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 8: But legends will be talking to someone and they might

1555
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 8: be very charismatic and great, I've been asked out before.

1556
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 6: But when they're talking, it's like, yeah, you know, I'm

1557
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 6: doing grab the communication with this hanger, you know.

1558
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: And it's intentional, aamlessness of what about you?

1559
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 3: What would you?

1560
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 6: I mean?

1561
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 8: I think just be bold, like honestly, like girl, pair

1562
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 8: be a man, okay, And if you do get rejected,

1563
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 8: then again, don't go on social media and like whine

1564
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 8: about it or whatever and bash that person. And if

1565
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 8: you do, like we get our security through Christ, right

1566
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 8: not and what other people think about us?

1567
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 6: And then they reject us or not. So if you're

1568
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 6: a real man and you.

1569
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 8: Get rejected, you find your security in Christ and you're

1570
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 8: gonna be fine.

1571
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. What can I add one that? Actually, I want

1572
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: to ask something you said, because you said, you know

1573
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: a lot of guys, and obviously we play on the

1574
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 2: baseball team, so obviously they're most of respectful men.

1575
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 4: But you know you don't have Yeah, I want to

1576
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 4: I want to make a statement about baseball fans, wherever

1577
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 4: they come from, whatever culture they are.

1578
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 3: The Dodgers are annoying, they are good people. Nine times

1579
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 3: out of ten, baseball.

1580
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: Is good. Yeah.

1581
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: No, even if they liked it, I'm telling you you've.

1582
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: Got it, are you Yankees fan?

1583
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1584
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 7: Look at you?

1585
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 6: I had.

1586
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 3: I had again with him last night already.

1587
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know get going the Mets the news for

1588
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: data the other day.

1589
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 10: Yeah, their Mets announcer was talking about his bloodline being

1590
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 10: extinguished because his children.

1591
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: Wh's funny because you brought up like chivalry and then

1592
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: you said, like a lot of your teammates are either Yeah,

1593
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: I have some guys who like just do the social

1594
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: media route. But I have some guys who are really

1595
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: aggressive and they're not afraid of anything. I think there's

1596
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: a you've got to be in the middle somewhere, right,

1597
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: There's a way to be courageous and bold but also respectable,

1598
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: and that's what attracts a woman of God. I think

1599
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 2: you can't go up to someone at the bar and

1600
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: be back and also being like, is that this going

1601
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: to be something that want to be with?

1602
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1603
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: Is that boldness?

1604
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 5: For sure?

1605
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 2: Is that the right tie correct? And any saying that

1606
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: can be used for good could also be turned in

1607
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: use for evil at the same time, where you can

1608
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 2: have this good oldness and good passion, you can get.

1609
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 3: Off on the wrong. But I have a really important

1610
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 3: follow up question, but sorry.

1611
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 2: You had more.

1612
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 10: Well, it was interesting that you said the guys don't

1613
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 10: know what to do, and I feel like this actually

1614
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 10: might be speaking to an even bigger crisis, which is

1615
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 10: I think nobody knows what to do.

1616
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: About anything, which is dating careers.

1617
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 10: It's I've often heard the phrase from people, oh, they'll

1618
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 10: eventually figure it out, and you hear it from older

1619
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 10: people where figuring it out was in a much narrower

1620
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 10: band of options for what to do. There was much

1621
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 10: more explicit guidance, and that certainly applies to dating as

1622
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 10: an example, where I think if someone was getting married

1623
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 10: in nineteen fifty, there was a big.

1624
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: Superstructure of what it actually was socially expectator for you

1625
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 2: to do.

1626
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 10: There was a narrower range, and everyone knew what these

1627
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 10: things were, so the unwritten rules were actually known, whereas

1628
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 10: today it's not merely that people don't know what they are.

1629
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 10: They often are in total conflict with each other. I

1630
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 10: ran to this myself, where you're in a culture and

1631
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 10: like out a church for example, and what actually does

1632
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 10: the woman consider an unwritten rule for how a man

1633
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 10: is supposed to behave totally different This is in DC,

1634
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 10: so they came from different places and as a result,

1635
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 10: you truly have no idea what to do. It is

1636
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 10: luck based almost Yeah, And I think Charlie spoke to

1637
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 10: that because Charlie, for example, presented such an explicit vision

1638
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 10: for how men should behave as an example, and I

1639
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 10: think that also is the appeal you guys might agree

1640
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 10: with this. If someone like even Andrew Taate, is that

1641
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 10: someone who stands up and says this is what you

1642
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 10: should do on all these different things, he is going

1643
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 10: to create appeal because they offer.

1644
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 2: Because the picture is lacking so much structure.

1645
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,240
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Speaker 3: I want to follow up.

1665
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 4: That's a really good point. The women you're saying to

1666
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 4: the men, be more sure of yourself, have an idea

1667
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 4: of who you are, be aggressive if you want, I

1668
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 4: mean not you know what I mean by that, Be confident?

1669
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 3: Right?

1670
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 4: What is your women? I'm looking at you, guys, what

1671
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 4: is your advice for other women? What is what are

1672
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 4: women currently doing that is getting in their own way?

1673
01:15:59,439 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 7: Be nice?

1674
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 6: MANI they're yeah, brute all against the guy. I feel

1675
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 6: for the guys like, no excuse, but these women are brutal.

1676
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: If they ask him how they talk crap about him

1677
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: on social media.

1678
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 6: That they'll laugh at people's faces. I mean, and it's

1679
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 6: totally mean girl men.

1680
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 3: It's the mean girl culture.

1681
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I have never explained it's only gotten worse.

1682
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 3: So so they're just brutal. Basically be nicer.

1683
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 8: Well, I think also a lot of people have you know,

1684
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 8: an RBF or whatever. They are really hard to go

1685
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 8: up to. Men and women you know and then are.

1686
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 6: But I think, you know, honestly, people need to be

1687
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 6: more aware.

1688
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 8: Of that, like in any situation, because if I'm sitting

1689
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 8: here like, no one's gonna call up the talk to me, right,

1690
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 8: and if like when we're tabling for turning point, I

1691
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 8: talked to the chapters about this, like, if you're tabling,

1692
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 8: have a smell on your face, be approachable.

1693
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 6: Okay, So if if a.

1694
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 8: Guy is standing across the room and he looks mean,

1695
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna go talk to him, saying with a girl,

1696
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 8: And so I think if us ladies look mean and

1697
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 8: just pickable, then they're not going to come up and

1698
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 8: talk to us anyway.

1699
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 6: So we had to be approachable and be kind as well.

1700
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,480
Speaker 7: I'm definitely not approachable.

1701
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 6: It's funny.

1702
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: What made me approach my girlf you and I look

1703
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 2: in the night that I met her was her smile.

1704
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 3: So it's it's a good point she feelt approachable.

1705
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 6: We're really just in a culture that's against men right now.

1706
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 8: So there's a lot of mini issues, but a lot

1707
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 8: of it comes down to how you men and how

1708
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 8: they really can't do anything right a lot of ways.

1709
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 8: And a lot of women that I talk to my age,

1710
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 8: most of the most of my friends who are women

1711
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 8: aren't Christian and aren't really looking to get married right now.

1712
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 6: So I have a good pulse of how they're talking

1713
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 6: about men, how they treat men. It's just awful. It's

1714
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 6: I mean, you guys know it's so bad and you

1715
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 6: talked about.

1716
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 8: You know, the fear of rejection and the fear of

1717
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 8: embarrassment when asking someone out. It takes a lot as

1718
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 8: a guy to like, Okay, I just wanted to ask,

1719
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 8: can I not be awkward about it? It takes a lot,

1720
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 8: and women kind of take advantage of that a lot.

1721
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 8: I think a lot of it has sumed social media,

1722
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 8: you know, over or realization of things, but it doesn't

1723
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 8: really register like this guy really had to go out

1724
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 8: of his way to be okay with embarrassing and understand

1725
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 8: that more than likely she should probably say.

1726
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: No, yeah, you know, can I actually add on that.

1727
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 2: Another thing that I see in women a lot is like,

1728
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: if you do go that step, ask a girl out,

1729
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 2: send that message whatever is, You're not only dating the girl,

1730
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: you're also dating all of her friends of the same.

1731
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: She will not respond.

1732
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: She will not respond until she consults all eighteen of

1733
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: her friends.

1734
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 8: Very Here's the other thing, though, is women as a culture,

1735
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 8: men as a culture of being told one thing. Women

1736
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 8: as a culture and I'm not talking about Christian culture,

1737
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 8: and I'm definitely not talking about the culture that Charlie

1738
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 8: Kirk cultivated. I'm talking about mainstream Yes, the mainstream post

1739
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:34,480
Speaker 8: you know feminism.

1740
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 6: When you get married, when you have kids, your life

1741
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 6: is over and you don't have a place in society anymore.

1742
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 6: So in the same way that I don't blame men

1743
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 6: for being scared.

1744
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 3: Of saying that's the perception, that's the message, that's that's how.

1745
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 6: What's being baked into our bones.

1746
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 8: You lose power when you join a relationship, you lose

1747
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 8: you know, you lose things more than you gain.

1748
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 6: And that's what we freedom.

1749
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: You're not are oh I undred percent agree. I think

1750
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: the idea that children are blessing has completely a bad

1751
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: proser So in the same way that.

1752
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 8: I don't blame men for being scared to reach out

1753
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 8: because of how culture is painting them, I don't blame

1754
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 8: women for being scared to lock themselves down because of

1755
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 8: how cultures pay.

1756
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: Can I ask the woman a question on the table,

1757
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: where do you think a man should meet a woman?

1758
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 2: Not at a bar? Okay? Yeah?

1759
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 5: No, yeah for sure?

1760
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: And then I mean excluding church because I think some

1761
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 2: guys are like I mean, for me, at least some

1762
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 2: focus on Jesus when I'm at church or maybe a

1763
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: church group. Well that's interesting, is church an unacceptable place

1764
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: to go for it.

1765
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 3: There's been create about that.

1766
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 2: I may also have eighty like it's just Grandma's there

1767
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: present what I'm looking for.

1768
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 8: I well, you ask a good question, and that also

1769
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 8: poses a different issue that I think women are probably

1770
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 8: dealing with. I don't as far as an online sphere,

1771
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 8: I have kind of strict standards for that. I don't

1772
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 8: really go out with a guy if you ask me online,

1773
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 8: I don't really do that.

1774
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 6: I don't go with texting. You can, I'll smile when

1775
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 6: you're here July someone you don't know too, right, Yeah, yeah, exactly,

1776
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 6: bring you up another state. So there's a kick first.

1777
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 6: But then what you're pointing to.

1778
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 8: A lot of it in at least in my opinion,

1779
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 8: the other issue that stops women a lot is the

1780
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 8: low standards.

1781
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 6: It's it's really really really bad.

1782
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 8: Men lower flow standards for men, like it's it really

1783
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 8: breaks all of my uh non creg because when you're

1784
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 8: when you're a woman in the church, in a good church,

1785
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 8: you know, I haven't talked about the ideal situation. You're

1786
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 8: being told you know your God's your God's daughter, and

1787
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 8: there's there's a certain joy and standard that you get

1788
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 8: from that expectation that you have when you don't grow

1789
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 8: up in that sphere and a sphere that says women

1790
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 8: are should be protected, you just have this really, really

1791
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 8: really negative thing like women. I actually said this to

1792
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 8: Charlie on the last on the panel.

1793
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 6: That was with him.

1794
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 8: He was talking about why hookup culture is such a

1795
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 8: big thing, and the thing that I mentioned was women

1796
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 8: have sex for to receive love. That's that's why women

1797
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 8: do it. Men do it for a different reason. I

1798
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 8: think biologically it's different women of men. And this is

1799
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 8: more in a secular situation. Men give sex to receive

1800
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 8: or men give love to receive sex, and women give

1801
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 8: sex to receive love. And I have so many friends

1802
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 8: where I'm just I'm like, if you if you held

1803
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 8: fast to not giving up that you would be happier members.

1804
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: So I understand what I mean. You're saying they're dating. Yes, yeah,

1805
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: I actually think it's I actually think it's funny you

1806
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: said that because you've made a joke and you were like, oh,

1807
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 2: I'm below that bar. I think it's actually the opposite that. Yeah,

1808
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: I think it's your so far above that bar that

1809
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: women don't even want to try because that's actually more

1810
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: work to be righteous.

1811
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 6: It's way hard when you're scared of them. Yes, that's yes, No,

1812
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 6: I one hundred percent would. It's intimidating.

1813
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 8: And it only takes one bad boyfriend to absolutely wreck

1814
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 8: a woman, especially shows never a father figure destly wreck

1815
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 8: a woman's perception of herself in what she deserves. And

1816
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 8: it's just heartbreaking because they just keep getting battered down

1817
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 8: and beaten down.

1818
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 6: And it's a confirmation biased thing and a self feeling

1819
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 6: prophecy thing.

1820
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 8: But they think ben are bad, they think ben are

1821
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 8: evil and will use them, and then they only talk

1822
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 8: to men who will be bad and evil and abuse them.

1823
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 3: It's a continent by it.

1824
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 4: Ultimately, what you're saying is on some level the wider

1825
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 4: cultures infected with what you just described absolutely rebuild the

1826
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 4: nuclearic and so yeah, well no, And by the way,

1827
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 4: Charlie said, if you ever got into politics is like

1828
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 4: directly in an elected sense, that was going to be

1829
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 4: his number one missions to restore the American family. Yeah,

1830
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 4: because it's that central and critical to everything.

1831
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 6: Right.

1832
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 3: Uh, feminism, you brought up feminism. Do you think.

1833
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 4: Conservative women are also sort of infected with some aspects

1834
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 4: of feminism and maybe don't even realize it. I would

1835
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 4: say so, and men, do you feel that as well?

1836
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 3: So the question could be so you said you think so,

1837
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 3: she's not so convinced over it here and beyond that,

1838
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: what would that mean?

1839
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: What specific feminist norms that you think artist?

1840
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 8: Well, I know, I just went on a whole thing

1841
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 8: about how women don't have high enough standards, but now

1842
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 8: I'm taking the other side of it. A lot of

1843
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 8: what feminism says is you're as a woman, you don't

1844
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 8: have to do any thing to receive the best from

1845
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 8: men like you. There's nothing that you should offer because

1846
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 8: you're you're you're the queen here. So a lot of

1847
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 8: like really fem and this is in the conservative movement

1848
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 8: as well. Women a lot of times don't really think

1849
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 8: that they need to put anything to be put in

1850
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 8: anything to be in a good relationship, like I don't

1851
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 8: do this, I don't do this, I won't accept this,

1852
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 8: And a lot of times it's okay, but are what

1853
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 8: are what are you putting in as a woman? As

1854
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 8: a woman, like they expect their man to be a

1855
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 8: traditional man and then they don't want to be a

1856
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 8: traditional woman. That's very extreme in the more secular feminist areas,

1857
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 8: But you mentioned I would say that's that affects everyone

1858
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 8: as well, so you're not convinced.

1859
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 6: I am, but it varies.

1860
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 5: But to your point, I think even this effects conservative

1861
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 5: woman too. I think their priorities are in the wrong places.

1862
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 5: I know several conservative girls on campus who will thump

1863
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 5: a guy because they don't pay for their ubers out

1864
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 5: or they don't pay for their meals, or there any

1865
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 5: petties sacord.

1866
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 7: And it's that's we broke out here.

1867
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 3: What are you supposed to be doing? Do you feel

1868
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 3: that way that even the conservative women?

1869
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 8: And again it's too I mean, if you have conserved

1870
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 8: women who are not Christian and considerable women who.

1871
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 6: Are Christian, I think there's a big difference there.

1872
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: Okay, what about it?

1873
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 6: I think it a liberty. I don't think so.

1874
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 3: You think people are are embracing traditional.

1875
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I guess we know where we're going exactly.

1876
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 7: We're screwing.

1877
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 8: Kennedy.

1878
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 9: You mentioned before that you know you had never been

1879
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 9: asked out in person, and then you made a comment

1880
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 9: like be a man. Now where where I'm like, you know,

1881
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 9: a little concerned, is where's the line between being a

1882
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 9: man and uh engaging in toxic masculinity as as a

1883
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 9: lot of people might say, Well, I think it's.

1884
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 8: Easy to tell when somebody comes up to whether they're

1885
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 8: coming up to in good faith or not, whether it's

1886
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 8: whether it's just a regular conversation, whether it's a man

1887
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 8: trying to approach you for a date, like, it's very

1888
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 8: easy to tell their attentions.

1889
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 2: Well.

1890
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 3: Also, so I'm picking up so much stuff here.

1891
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 4: It sounds like there's a crisis of confidence with the

1892
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 4: men and the women are just really brutal and cruel

1893
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 4: and mean and have weird expectations.

1894
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 3: But you know, there are some like and and candidly,

1895
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 3: I feel like the men need to get a little

1896
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 3: game too. I hope that comes off the right way.

1897
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 4: But it's like, if you find a girl you like,

1898
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 4: why can't you like, you know, if it's a church,

1899
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 4: like churches, do activities like hang out, do something casual

1900
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 4: to see if she's welcoming you in her general proximity,

1901
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 4: hang out with her some more, and then be like, Hey,

1902
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 4: we're going to this thing, do you want to come? Like?

1903
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's ways to do this more in

1904
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 4: a casual way where you don't need to like, you know,

1905
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 4: like you know, slap yourself in the mirror, go you

1906
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 4: can do this, and then like will you go out

1907
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 4: with me?

1908
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 3: You know, Like I just it feels like, you know,

1909
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:54,839
Speaker 3: there's a whole bunch.

1910
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 4: Of different things going on here that I find really

1911
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 4: really fascinating. But you know, do you said people don't

1912
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 4: know what they're doing anymore. There's like a lack of

1913
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 4: basic expectations.

1914
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 6: A lot of what you're talking about, it has to

1915
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 6: come down to moderation.

1916
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 8: Like I know, on one hand, I'm saying women don't

1917
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 8: have high enough standards, and on the other I'm saying

1918
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 8: you have two high standards. It's moderation because on one side,

1919
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 8: a lot of it is the radicalization that.

1920
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 6: Came from social media. You can't just be a man anymore.

1921
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 8: It's either tosking masculinity or betam ount like there's no

1922
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 8: in between. And you can't just be a woman anymore.

1923
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 8: It's either a strong woman, have got a trad wife

1924
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 8: or a feminist you a woke like there's no middle ground,

1925
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 8: and all of the beauty often exists in the middle.

1926
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 8: God made a very balanced system that we operate within

1927
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 8: because we're supposed to operate within so like what you're.

1928
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 6: Talking about men in a little game like yeah, you

1929
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 6: don't have to.

1930
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 8: There's this if you go too far into the like

1931
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 8: courting and dating to marry, there's this really aggressive like,

1932
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 8: hey man, we just talked for three weeks and it

1933
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 8: didn't work out.

1934
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 6: It's okay, I promise you'll move on. It's okay.

1935
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 8: And then on the other hand, there's you talk for

1936
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 8: five seconds and then you have a one night stand

1937
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 8: and then you never talk to each other again. It's

1938
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 8: there's just a lot of it between the genders and

1939
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,839
Speaker 8: just as a generation, we're so you know, not moderated,

1940
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 8: and I think with Benjamin Franklin said everything a moderation,

1941
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 8: but that's like we've lost that ideal.

1942
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's interesting. I love that you brought

1943
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: up a Charlie cliparlier because Trolie also said if you're

1944
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 2: serious about someone, go on a sizeable road trip with them,

1945
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 2: which I think is hilarious because there's so many little

1946
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: things in that. First of all, I think on the

1947
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: woman's side, do you think most women would either make

1948
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: the man start every conversation or they would lead every conversation.

1949
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,839
Speaker 6: If they expect the man to start every single conversation.

1950
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 6: That's particular correct.

1951
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: I think most people you could group into one of

1952
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: those two a lot a lot of time.

1953
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 3: Okay, I think that, Yes, let the men start every conversation.

1954
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 2: Like I think, either you have too contrasting and I

1955
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: know you got I saw you not. You have two

1956
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: contrasting elements as you have the girl either hyper focused

1957
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 2: and they want to almost lead the scene and not

1958
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: let the man even showing of his game, or it's

1959
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: the opposite of that and the man has to use

1960
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 2: every ounce of energy and do the entire thing, which

1961
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 2: I think is interesting. I think that's where maybe the

1962
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 2: women's sign up for the dating pool could get better

1963
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: the man side. Kay, throw another hypothetical into the situation.

1964
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Let's say you got a flat fire. How many men

1965
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 2: of your friends do you think could fix a flat tire?

1966
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 8: Me?

1967
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm blu car so not specifically, but of your friends,

1968
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: would say, of the guys at Latte College, you could

1969
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Speaker 2: probably pick like one exactly. Okay, So then you said, like,

1970
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 2: have things figured out? I think for sure, career college

1971
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 2: mission all that's great, But I think it's also like

1972
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: basic stuff, and I think our generation specifically misses out

1973
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: on just asking their parents, their mentors, people at their church,

1974
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: basic life questions and just learning. Last summer I worked

1975
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 2: at my high school and I did maintenance. I learned

1976
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Speaker 2: more in one summer of not opening a single book

1977
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 2: regarding that and skill wise, and I can apply to

1978
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Speaker 2: the rest of my life.

1979
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Speaker 8: Now.

1980
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Speaker 2: I will have so much fun in the garage when

1981
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 2: I'm married and older and what not building things for

1982
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: my wife. And I think that's a great thing. How

1983
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,759
Speaker 2: many men in our generation think you have that opportunity? Nobody?

1984
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Speaker 4: So there was that I'm I'm excited that I get

1985
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 4: to share this actually because I remember going through it

1986
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Speaker 4: with Charlie right before he died.

1987
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Speaker 3: It was that NBC.

1988
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 4: Pole that came out and it listed the priorities of

1989
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 4: male and female gen zs and it was the men.

1990
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Speaker 4: The top priorities was you know, get a job, to

1991
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 4: have a family, find a wife. Literally it was like

1992
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 4: that women. It was like, I think having kids and

1993
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 4: getting married was like number eleven on the list or

1994
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 4: something that you remember that bowl and top of it

1995
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 4: was like, you know, be financially independent.

1996
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Speaker 6: And like, well that's what big push.

1997
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so where is this coming from? Who are

1998
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 4: the sources pushing this? Where are young women getting this?

1999
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 4: And yeah, why do they believe that?

2000
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Speaker 5: And I think Terren's influencers and professors at universities push that.

2001
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 5: I know there's a big push. I mean even at

2002
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 5: my friends on universities, the professors always make sure to

2003
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 5: single out the females and emphasize how important it is

2004
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 5: for females to be financially independent. And to an extent,

2005
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 5: I I agree with that because of how bad the

2006
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 5: dating pool and the marriage pool and normalizing divorce is now,

2007
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 5: you need to be financially independent, But I don't think

2008
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,839
Speaker 5: that should prioritize having a family, making that connection with somebody.

2009
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 6: But I think those are great places.

2010
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Speaker 8: I agree with you a lot of what started with

2011
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 8: specifically with women, because for historically women didn't have a

2012
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 8: lot of the rights that we have now. So what

2013
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 8: started out as empowerment, there's a whole bunch of conspiracy

2014
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 8: theory about, like if it really.

2015
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Speaker 6: Was in environment whatever, what started out as in theory

2016
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 6: of power conspiracy theory, So we're running out of time.

2017
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Speaker 8: What started out as empowerment for women has really very

2018
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 8: quickly turned into a shaming aspect. Like I don't know

2019
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 8: if you guys agree with this. Tell me if you

2020
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 8: disagree or if this is just me being a crazy person.

2021
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Speaker 8: A lot of it and this is between from other women.

2022
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 8: I don't think women are men are pressuring women to

2023
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 8: be the career women. It's it's all from other women.

2024
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 8: But it's from your grandmother, your mother, your friends, your professor's.

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Speaker 2: Did your parents give you more advice about what career

2026
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 2: to pursue or how to find the husband? Didn't have

2027
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 2: a family.

2028
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 8: I had gangster parents, so they were awesome. Like my mom,

2029
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 8: she's to stay at home mom, and my dad served

2030
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 8: in the military, so they were very much like, do

2031
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 8: what you want, but being a mom is the greatest

2032
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 8: gift that you can received.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of it was in can I add

2034
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 2: something to the professor part you brought up?

2035
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Speaker 3: Well, you were just about to you were saying that

2036
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 3: most of this is coming thank you got it.

2037
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Speaker 6: A lot of it comes from and it's the shaming aspect.

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Speaker 8: If you're not thinking about what business you're going to

2039
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 8: start and what book you're going to write, and what

2040
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 8: government policy you're going to institute, and how many people

2041
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 8: you're going to save, before you even thinking about it

2042
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 8: before you've been thinking about being a mom. You're a

2043
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 8: failure to the feminist cause. And there's so much shame

2044
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 8: that happens there. And whereas before, like if you look

2045
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 8: at in the Victorian era, you wouldn't be considered a

2046
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 8: part of society as a woman until you were married.

2047
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 8: But now there's this major shift where it's like the

2048
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 8: ant si Victorian era where when you're married you don't

2049
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 8: have a place here anymore, and when you have a

2050
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 8: child you are the scum of the earth to society, like,

2051
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 8: don't want up plans and planes, don't come on our buses,

2052
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 8: don't be in a public area because it's baby cries.

2053
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 6: Then it's your fault.

2054
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like your life ends once you have kids,

2055
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: which I feel like it's so funny that everybody I

2056
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: talk to who has kids, it says the exact opposites.

2057
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 2: And I like, learn so much and I have.

2058
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 4: Three kids, and I'll tell you it's the best, most important,

2059
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 4: most gratifying one thing in life.

2060
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:19,839
Speaker 2: Everything else pales and compares.

2061
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 8: Now to the women, Do you guys agree with what

2062
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 8: I'm saying. Do you think there is that shame aspect

2063
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 8: where there's a pressure there I do.

2064
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. I'm going to see both sides too.

2065
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 8: I mean what you're saying about financial indefence, I don't

2066
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 8: think there's anything wrong with waiting until after college she

2067
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 8: get married. I think there's a lot of pressure to

2068
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 8: get married in college, especially at Liberty is ring by spring.

2069
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 6: Everybody's married by for a year.

2070
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Speaker 3: I'm like, okayrs degree.

2071
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, But honestly, like from my perspective, I think it's best,

2072
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 8: especially just for me personally. And if you can say,

2073
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 8: if you agree or not, but to graduate college, get

2074
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 8: a job, be financially stable. I would want my husband

2075
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 8: or my boyfriend to do the same thing and then

2076
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 8: then get married. Then we're financially stable and we have

2077
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 8: started our our own careers and we have future success

2078
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 8: lined up. Right. But also, you know, if something were

2079
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 8: to happen, because in these days, like you said, I mean,

2080
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 8: divorce is a much higher rates. Something were to happen

2081
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 8: and I were to get divorced, God forbid, you know,

2082
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 8: I would have these skills that because I had a job,

2083
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 8: I would have these skills where I could go back

2084
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 8: to work if I wasn't stay at home mom or

2085
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 8: I have you know, my own savings and my own

2086
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 8: ability to make my own money.

2087
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think that's valid. At the

2088
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: same time, I think that's like culturally, that's the problem

2089
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 2: with our view as marriage is that you have to

2090
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 2: have a safety in at all the time. Like I

2091
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 2: think marriages you're supposed to like date and figure it out, right,

2092
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: Like you're never going to know in ten years from

2093
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 2: now you're like, oh, I thought I had that figured

2094
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: out and I had no idea, And.

2095
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 10: I'm Charlie pointing out nothing will actually drive a man

2096
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 10: to establish that career and that security Mike actually having

2097
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:49,520
Speaker 10: a wife so direct.

2098
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 2: And I think like having that safety net all the time, Like, yeah,

2099
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a bad thing to you know,

2100
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 2: want all those things. But also if God brought you

2101
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 2: the right person, would you.

2102
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Speaker 3: Abandoned all that No?

2103
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 6: Absolutely not.

2104
01:33:58,160 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Well no, why I'm saying, like, would you commit to

2105
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 2: that now for being able to settle for all those

2106
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: safety net situations? I think that's a good question to

2107
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:04,839
Speaker 2: ask yourselves.

2108
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 3: Well, and Jacob, I agree with you a lot.

2109
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 4: But you know, we could talk about no fault divorce

2110
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 4: and the fact that there is has been a hollowing

2111
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 4: out of the sanctity of marriage, and that even somebody

2112
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 4: like yourself, and I'm not judging you, I'm just saying

2113
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 4: that is at Liberty University has to think through safety

2114
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 4: nets because you're sort of in the back of your

2115
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 4: head going, oh, this.

2116
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 3: Might not work, you know. I think that's a huge

2117
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,759
Speaker 3: indictment just on the culture in general.

2118
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Speaker 4: Gosh, we have so many more things we could get into, guys,

2119
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 4: including you talk about jobs, AI and all the stuff.

2120
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Speaker 4: We're gonna have to leave a lot on the table

2121
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 4: because we have run out of time. But this was

2122
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 4: really really fascinating, and yeah, man, I learned a tons

2123
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure I really did. So thank you guys for

2124
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 4: joining Sephorah, Jacob Ryan, Noah the guy who likes to

2125
01:34:55,320 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 4: ask women on dates, so cls look out, Kennedy and Michael,

2126
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much.

2127
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 7: Thank you here so much.

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Speaker 3: This is fun.

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Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 6: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.