1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: to the Aaron Mullin Show. It is jam packed for you. 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: We are talking about how Americans treat their law enforcement officers, 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: snowball bombing in New York City and your mayor thinks 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: it's funny. No, also, will the President of Israel sue 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, a very very good lawyer, has offered to 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: handle the case for free plus of course State of 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: the Union and plenty more. But first let's here from 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: US sponsor. I just read a shocking statistic. Newsweek reported 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: that fifty one percent of retirement age adults now expect 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: to work indefinitely. That means more Americans are working well 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: past the traditional retirement age. And here's why. The average 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: four oh one K balance for older Americans is barely 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: six figures. More and more people simply can't afford to retire. 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: It seems like the American dream is quickly becoming a 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: disaster for retirees who are unprepared and underfunded. But this 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be your reality. 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Now I have 27 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: covered this in real time as it was happening. We've 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: got a separate clip for you includes my feedback and 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: the highlights from my perspective. You can click on this 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: link here if you're listening on the podcast. It's a 31 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: separate podcast, the one just before this one, so make 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: sure you check it out after, of course you listen 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: or watch this incredible episode. It is huge. Now Iran 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the latest the CIA. This is incredible by the way, 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: they have directly reached out to the Iranian people telling 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: them how to set up a secure channel to provide 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: intelligence and information to the US. Wow, this was unexpected. 38 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: The countdown is on. We are literally on the brink 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: now timeline wise, Remember the Indian Prime Minister is in 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Israel right now. He's got a two day visit the 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: twenty fifth and twenty six. There is no way in 42 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: hell that an attack will occur whilst he's in town, 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: because the first thing the Islami Creagian will do, because 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Israel is a closer and easier target than the US 45 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: is retaliate towards Israel. There's no way they'll do anything. 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the Americans here, of course, with 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: their very strong ally Israel. Whilst he is on the ground, 48 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: it just won't happen. So the next couple of days 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: should be clear. We watch, though, and any excitement that 50 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: you might pick up in my voice when I talk 51 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: about a potential strike is not because I'm a warmonger. 52 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: It's not because I think the thought of bombing in 53 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: other country is exciting. This regime of terrorists, they're evil, 54 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: vile killers. Their people deserve freedom, and the world deserves 55 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: to be free of the terror that they spread. The 56 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: lives that they take, Western lives, not just Iranian lives, 57 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: but Western lives. That is why I get excited about it, 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: because the people of Iran deserve their country back. Now, 59 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: talking about what people deserve, Erica Kirk does not deserve 60 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: what Candace is dishing up right now. Of course, so 61 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: I've heard to Candace Owen's she reaches new levels of 62 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: vulgar every single day. This could be. This is a 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: whole new load. This is disgusting. Have a quick listen 64 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: or watch to this little promotional clip that she's put 65 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: out regarding Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk has been named the 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: CEO of Turning Point, USA. My husband's dead, Like, I'm 67 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: not trying to be morbid, but he's done. It's weird 68 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: to say. 69 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: Excited describes your. 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: Husband's funeral as the event of the century. 71 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: Merch a. 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: We have fifty thousand plus hot borders. 73 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: Nobody knows why she's out there in a glittering pantsuit 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: in a recreated tent that her husband tragically was murdered in, 75 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: throwing merch out. 76 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Everyone leaves differently, so if someone's acting weird, don't read 77 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: into that. 78 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: Zionists, the Prime Minister of Israel all lied through their 79 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: teeth about Charlie Kirk. 80 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Her operation was in Constanta, the epicenter of Romania's trafficking scandals. 81 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: We were conversations that have with a fifteen year old 82 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna touch your butt. 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: Eight point six million dollars to their own show company. 84 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: What is going on? 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: My aunt used to tell me, never do something that 86 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: you don't want on the front page hip and he's paper. 87 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Evil's not a strong enough word when it comes to 88 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: this woman. And let me make this point, No grieving 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: widow or mother, or child or friend will ever always 90 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: act in a way that you think is appropriate. There 91 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: is no one size fits all in this space. So 92 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: just because you think maybe a mannerism is a little 93 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: bit off doesn't mean that there's anything more to it 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: than we are all human, We are all different, we 95 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: cope in different ways. She's also having to try to 96 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: inspire people around her. You know, it's okay to provide 97 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: commentary and to try and say, oh, this or this 98 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: or this is different to what I thought, and you know, 99 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: free speech absolutely. But what Candae is doing here is 100 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: not that she's trying to insinuate that the wife of 101 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was involved in his murder. A couple of 102 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: weeks ago, she said that if it was the opposite 103 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: way around, if Erica had been killed in that fashion 104 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: in the same way that Charlie had been, Charlie would 105 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: be in a prison cell, and she thought that was appropriate. 106 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: That is disgusting. It is okay. Erica is in the 107 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: public eye. She fronts a big organization, She's a big girl. 108 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: People are allowed to comment and talk about the way 109 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: she acted or the way she wiped her high or 110 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: whatever else. I mean, it's off in my opinion, but 111 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: you're allowed to what you should never be able to 112 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: do because it is not based in truth or fact. 113 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Whatsoever is insinuate she was somehow involved in her husband, 114 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: the father of her children's death. That is what makes 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: this vile. Not having an opinion on how she grieved. 116 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: You make up your own mind if you think that's 117 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: okay or not. This, though, is not. It's disgusting, a 118 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: new low. And I keep saying that, thinking she couldn't 119 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: go lower, but she does. And speaking of along a 120 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: similar vein Tucker Carlson his interview with the US Ambassador 121 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: to Israel, mister Huckabee Wow, where he said this about 122 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: the Israeli president. 123 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: So astuk could be Were you aware that this email 124 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: suggests that the president, the current president of Israel, Isaac Herzog, 125 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: went to Epstein's island. Kern's president of Israel, current president 126 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: I you know, President Herzog going very well, apparently was 127 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: that Pedo Island. That's what it says in the disclosure, 128 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: And so I just want to say clearly, I'm sorry 129 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: to imply that I knew something I didn't know. Of course, 130 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that Isaac Herzog was on the island. Yes, 131 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: in the Epstein fous and I don't know that. I've 132 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: heard the current president of Israel respond to it, but 133 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: he is listed as a visitor to Pedo Island. But 134 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: I don't know that, and I didn't mean to suggest 135 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: that I do know that. But you're surprised to hear 136 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: that the current president of Israel, whom you know is 137 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: listed as a visitor to Pedo Island. 138 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: Clearly worried because what he tried to say and what 139 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: he said and then tried to insinuate he knew more 140 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that back this whole theory up regarding 141 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: the President and his involvement with Ebstein complete gobbage. By 142 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: the way, well, guess what, a very good lawyer who 143 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: knows the president has offered to do the defamation case 144 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: for free, and he joins me. Now, Marzell, first of all, 145 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me here on the 146 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Mullin Show. It's such an honor to have you. 147 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 5: Well, the honor is all mine, Aarin, thank you very 148 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: very much for having me. 149 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Bless you now. You caught my eye a while ago 150 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: on X and your content is brilliant. So to my audience, 151 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: make sure you follow Mark. But something in particular caught 152 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: my eye recently, and that was an offer you made 153 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: to the President of Israel. Could you tell my audience 154 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: what you have offered to do for free? 155 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 4: Well, I want to make sure that everybody is familiar 156 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: with the interview that our ambassador Mike could be had 157 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: with Tucker Carlson just a couple of days ago, in 158 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: which Tucker Carlson repeatedly accused President Hertzog of visiting Jeffrey 159 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: Epstein's island, famous island in the Bahamas. 160 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 5: And uh, it's now. 161 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: Been proven beyond any any cavil any doubt that that 162 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: the President could never visit it and could never have 163 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: visited And at the times that Tucker Carlson was referred to, 164 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 4: the President was here in Israel and was clearly not 165 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: not president. So it was an it was a total lie. 166 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: And so uh and therefore defamatory, that it's a libel. 167 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: So what I said on Twitter was listen, President Hertzog, 168 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: who I happened to know and respect greatly, if you 169 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: want to sue this miscreant, Tucker Carlson for for what 170 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: he said about you in this interview and which you 171 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: which you Tucker Carlson with Tucker Carlson repeated time and 172 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: time again without any shame, I'm prepared to represent you 173 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: in my lawfulm is prepared to represent you free of charge, 174 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: pro bono. 175 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: And now have you had back from the President regarding 176 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: this offer, Well, I think the. 177 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: President, who himself as a very accomplished attorney and comes 178 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: from a very prominent is really lawful, has all the 179 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: has all of the assets he needs to pursue the 180 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: deformation suit. 181 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 5: I don't think it's not my own. 182 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: To to get down in the in the mud, so 183 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: to speak with Tucker Carlson. 184 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he just has too much class. 185 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 4: But if he decides to, I'll be seeing him shortly, 186 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: and if he decides to take me up by my offer, 187 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 4: I would be delighted to represent him. 188 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'd really enjoy, Mark, and that 189 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: would be the discovery particularly on the side of Tucker Carlson, 190 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: it would be worth that alone, we could we could 191 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: learn a fair few things. 192 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 5: I suspect I fully agree with you. 193 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: I think it would be fascinating to probe into it, 194 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: and if we could do it with a deposition like 195 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: they have before trial, like they have in the United States, 196 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: it would be a real, real exciting, a real exciting experience. 197 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: But let's see, let's see what happens. 198 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: We'll see. It's very rare, particularly when it comes to Tucker, 199 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: for him to walk back something or to front foot 200 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: something akin to an apology, which he did. And I've 201 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: shown my audience before our interview. I've shown them the 202 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: clip during the interview with my cuckabee and then his 203 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: subsequent clip where he said that's the sixted He looked 204 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: like a complete idiot. That's a legal term. I have 205 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: no doubt. I'd love to know from a legal perspective 206 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: whether that then completely eliminates the opportunity to take legal 207 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: action or not. Once it's out there and millions of 208 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: people have seen it, not everyone's going to see And 209 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: we learned this during you know, post October seven. The 210 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: headline goes a million miles. The retraction on some obscure 211 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: account goes one millionth of the way. That doesn't completely 212 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: end the opportunity for legal action, does it. 213 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 4: Tucker doing that, You're absolutely right eron You must you 214 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: must have a law agree you sound. 215 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: I've had a little bit of experience with deformation and 216 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: it was very unpleasant, my friend, very unpleasant. 217 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry to hear it. And in any case, no, 218 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: the retraction is insufficient. And in fact, until he until 219 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 4: he actually edited the interview, Okay, Uh, the every every 220 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: time that interview replayed up to that point was another 221 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 4: defaminatory utterance, and each one, each time it's it's actionable. 222 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: But I'll tell you something else. Even though he edited 223 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: the interview and he made this retraction, uh, that you 224 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 4: referred to the original, The original interview with all of 225 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 4: the defamatory statements, continues to exist on YouTube and anybody 226 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: can see it, and every time it's downloaded is. 227 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 5: Another defamation by Tucker Carlson. So he's not out of 228 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 5: the woods. 229 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: If President Ritzog wants to do it, and I want 230 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 4: to assume him, he can do it. And I'll tell 231 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: you something. There's a lot of people that are encouraging 232 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: President Trump to do the same thing because uh uh 233 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: Trumper Tucker Carlson has made similar comments about President Trump. 234 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 4: So I think it's uh. I think it's time for 235 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson to be accountable for the for the lies 236 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: that he's perpetrated and and the hatred that he's generated 237 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 4: with these broadcasts of his I mean, just it's it's 238 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: a real shame. I you know, I was a fan 239 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: of his when he was on Fox News. I used 240 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: to watch this program every every evening, and I thought 241 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: he was he was an accomplished journalist. Something happened to him. 242 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: I think, I think that's something begins with the letter 243 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: Q and uh and uh. I think, yeah, qatar. 244 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: From well, I knew that. But the catching from the yeah. 245 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: Catching from the guitar, Yeah you're good, you're good. 246 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Now market it's so interesting. I mean, it's not interesting, 247 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: it's appolling. But you look at Tucker and the stuff 248 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: that he spews out, ninety nine point nine percent of 249 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: which is its complete bs. But he's making a lot 250 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: of money out of it. He's generating click clicks. It's 251 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: click bait, it's successive. You look at Candace Owens, who 252 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: today has put out a clip a teaser for some 253 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: you know expose she's doing on Erica Kirk and the insanity. 254 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: It's viole. It makes me feel sick. And again, yes, 255 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: we should all be in pursuit of the truth. That's 256 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: what I try and do every single day. But this 257 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: is insanity. This ain't that. This is vile and it's evil. 258 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts again, as from a legal perspective 259 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: looking at this going. 260 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: What well, look, Candace Owen is even more venomous than 261 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson. She says things that I think would make 262 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: jose Joseph Gebels, the Headler's propaganda minister, blushed, you know so, 263 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: and and both of them are giving platforms to vile 264 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 4: jew haters like Neil Nick Fuentes and others. These these 265 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: people are simply they simply thrive. 266 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: On pure hatred. 267 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: That's all. That's all they're about. And what's sad. I mean, 268 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: they're bad enough, but it's sad that so many people 269 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: actually pay attention to what they're saying and are influenced 270 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: by them. And that's the kind of thing that you, Aaron, 271 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: I know, are doing every day. And I try in 272 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: my small way to counteract by try trying to to 273 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: to say the truth and what Ambassador Huckabee and during 274 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: his amazing performance I two and a half hours, he 275 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: really uh and in my view, demolished Tucker Carlson and 276 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: his lies about all kinds of things, including how Tucker 277 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: Carlson exploited and distorted the Bible, which is which is 278 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: so dear to all of our hearts. So so anyway, 279 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: I from a legal perspective, there are things we can 280 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: do to through through the through the courts to fight this. 281 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 4: I have to say though a lot of times when 282 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 4: you when you fight back through the courts, you bring 283 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: more attend to these haters, to these spreaders of hate 284 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: uh then than they deserve. And so it's a it's 285 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: a it's a difficult balance of decision when to go 286 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: to court. As you you probably know yourself, UH, sometimes 287 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: you have to do. 288 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,359 Speaker 5: It just to protect your your reputation, your reputation. 289 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: On the other hand, sometimes social media can come to 290 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: your aid to UH in a way that the courts can. 291 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: And I think after Tucker Carlson's remarks about President Heresog 292 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: for example, the inn the the Internet social media exploded 293 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: with in President Herzong's defense. What I could see, I 294 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,239 Speaker 4: was one of the voices early on that that articulated 295 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: his defense. And I think most of the people who 296 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: who followed this understand that President Herzog and others and 297 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: the other lies that Tucker Carlson spread, Uh, you know, 298 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: just have to be rejected out right. 299 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's spot on, and it's something that 300 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: I that I battle in my own head whenever I 301 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: choose to cover something, and look, I had racing correspondence 302 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: that reassured me. You know, the point that I make 303 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: to people is whilst millions of people are consuming the 304 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: content of Tucker and Candace, people like you and me 305 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: have to push back because so many people are seeing 306 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: it and they're being influenced by it, and they're engaging 307 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: in it. Once they become irrelevant, you then completely ignore them. 308 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: The issue is right now they're not and you made 309 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: the point earlier on that that is what is most disturbing, 310 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: not what they're spewing out. There are idiots, and there 311 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: always will be, and there will always be people who 312 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: will lie. But it's the volume of people that seem 313 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: to watch it and absorb it that worries me. The 314 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: other point, I wanted to make you look at Candace 315 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: and look at Tucker and very different. And I wonder 316 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: if this comes into it with defamation as well. I 317 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: look at Tucker Carlson and his proximity to the administration 318 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: two JD. Evans visiting the White House, being in the 319 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: background of meetings of you know, big oil bosses and 320 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: energy bosses. And if I'm someone that's looking at a lie, 321 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: he said, that's damaged me. I'm going to say to people, Candace, 322 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: is that beat crazy? Yes, you can still see it. 323 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: But most people know that Tucker has an element of legitimacy, 324 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: doesn't He coming from a network like Fox News, the 325 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: proximity to power, all of that contributes to people taking 326 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: more seriously what he says, doesn't it. 327 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 5: It desinittely definitely does. 328 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: And that's why you would think that he has a 329 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: special responsibility to restrain himself. And look, he was he 330 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: was a journalist for the bulk of his career, and 331 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 4: as a journalist I think he did a commendable job 332 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: at the time. 333 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 5: But he's fallen. 334 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: He's fallen into the clutches of the Kataris and others 335 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 4: who who have a very very toxic agenda. You know, 336 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 4: he was at the White House yesterday Aeron, as I understand, 337 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 4: and what I what I understand is that he got 338 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: addressing down from the from the President. Now, the President 339 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily want to take him on publicly, particularly on 340 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: the eve of the dramatic events that are about to 341 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: unfold here in the Middle East. But I think that, uh, 342 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: I think that Tucker cross And needs to understand that 343 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: if he's really going to go up against Donald Trump match, Yeah, exactly. 344 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: I we'll get into all of that, but first, here's 345 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: a word from our partner. Israel is a hot topic 346 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: right now, and that's putting up politely. So with so 347 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: many opinions and emotions surrounding it, it can feel hard 348 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: to know where to start. The Bible tells us I 349 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: will bless those who bless you. That isn't just a 350 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: comforting promise. It's a clear calling from God, and today, 351 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: with anti Semitism rising around the world, this calling is 352 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: more urgent than ever. At a time when Jewish communities 353 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: are experiencing more hostility, more threats, and more violence than ever, 354 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Christians have a powerful opportunity to respond with God's love 355 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: to say you are not alone. When Christians choose to 356 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: bless Israel, We're not entering a political issue. We are 357 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: honoring the root of our faith and standing against hatred. 358 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: Supporting Israel is more than a belief, it's a biblical mandate. 359 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: And by partnering with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, 360 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: you can push back against darkness and be a light 361 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: to God's people. Learn how you can bless Israel and 362 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: be blessed in return. Visit IFCJ dot org today again, 363 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: that's IFC dot org be the blessing, live the word, 364 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: answer the call. 365 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: We all do. 366 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: Before I let you you go. You are in Israel 367 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: at the moment you just mentioned, on the eve of 368 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: something potentially, and I'm too scared to predict because over 369 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: the past, you know, two months or so, there have 370 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: been so many moments where I've thought this is it, 371 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: this is it. But for some reason, this moment feels 372 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: like we are on the brink of something. I was 373 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: there in Israel during the Twelve Day War and experience 374 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: that firsthand. And how are you feeling from that perspective. 375 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: You've got lots of grandkids, your family are there, your 376 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: beautiful wife. Oh, I just got to meet. Are you anxious? 377 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: Are you excited because of what it could mean for 378 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: the region and the people of Iran? Have you got 379 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: everything ready in the bunkers? Like I'm just from a 380 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: human perspect TIV. 381 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I think you've really summed it 382 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: up very very nicely. You know, I think all of 383 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 4: us in Israel are anxious, okay, because we're eager to 384 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 4: see this threat, the Iranian threat, finally removed from our 385 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 4: midst you know, if the Iranians are the head of 386 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: the snake, and if they if we can, with the 387 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: help of the United States and freedom loving people around 388 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: the world, finally bring an end to this regime in Tehran. 389 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: Not only will the Iranian people rise and I and 390 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 4: and resume control over their whole lives, but all of 391 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 4: these proxies like the his Ballah and the Hamas and 392 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: the Houtis and the Isis and so on, they will collapse, 393 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 4: and the prospect for real peace in this region, and 394 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: not only in the region, around the world, because the 395 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: Iranians are threatening all of us, okay, you know, even 396 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: with their missiles, with their money, with their hatred. 397 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 5: It's it's something that needs to be done. And so 398 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 5: we are eager. Now am I afraid? No? 399 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: No, Because we went through the Twelve Day War and 400 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 4: I've been in Israel. This year will be forty years 401 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 4: that my family been living in Israel, and we've been 402 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: through a lot, a lot of wars, and we are ready. 403 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: We are ready, you know. And sometimes in Israel we say, 404 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: we kind of jokingly say when we get the weather 405 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 4: report every day, we wonder what you know, we got 406 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 4: the we got the rain, we got the thunder, we 407 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: got this, you know, the sunshine, and we got do 408 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: we have missiles coming into you know? That's so we're 409 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: ready that Israel has taken precautions. We built hospitals underground. 410 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: Everybody knows what to do. The Home Command and the 411 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: of the IDF gives us instructions. We really care about. 412 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: We are people that believes in life and prosperity, and 413 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 4: in order to do that, in order to continue, you 414 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 4: have to protect life. And that's what we do here 415 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: in Israel, not only through our military, but frankly, people 416 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 4: like my wife if you met before the broadcast, Aaron, 417 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 4: you know, are the real heroes and heroines of our 418 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: country because they carry on the day to day existence 419 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: while our soldiers are in the field, men and women, 420 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: but at the home front taking care of our children 421 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 4: and the elderly, which on tomorrow's my birthday. So we 422 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 4: are we are ready. 423 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 5: I say, bring it on, Iran. 424 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 4: We're ready, and we're ready to do it because we 425 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: want to finish Iran off and bring the Iranian people 426 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: back to power. That's what we want to help them do. 427 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: Gives me chills. In fact, it reminds me of Prime 428 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: Minister nt Yaho. It felt like he did a pre 429 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: war speech today. It felt like that it was a 430 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: we already, but you know, a rallying of the troops. 431 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: We've got faith in you, and bring it on. And 432 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: I love that. 433 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 4: And I thank you Erin, thank you for your for 434 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: your support and and and the millions of your viewers. 435 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: I can't begin to tell you how how important and 436 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 4: that is your prayers and your support for us here 437 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: in Israel. And we pray for you. I mean, you've 438 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 4: been through through your own travails at Mondo Beach and 439 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 4: so on. 440 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: And the Royal. 441 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 4: Commission that I understand has just been appointed in Australia. 442 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: We we are with you. We're all together because I 443 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 4: think we're all fighting for the same thing. 444 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: I tell you what. It can be a little bit 445 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: lonely on the right side of history, but there ain't 446 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: nowhere else I'd rather be mark alongside you guys there 447 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: and bless you God, bless you brilliant people. Bless you 448 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: stay safe, and we might check back in if things 449 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: get a little the next few days. I'd love to 450 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: and lots of time. 451 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 5: Bring my wife Robin on. 452 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I think she's superior. And I was gaffed that 453 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: you didn't sit in your seat and take your place. 454 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 5: Okay, next time we got her. 455 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Now, I'm sure plenty of you 456 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: have seen the images of people throwing snowballs. And by 457 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: the way, again, I'm from Australia, so snow is not 458 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: really my area of expertise. They can be hard, they 459 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: can hurt, they can be icy. The Mayor of New 460 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: York has said that, ah, this is just kids throwing snowballs. 461 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: It's a snowfighter, so cute, so fun. From the videos 462 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: that I've seen, it looks like a snowball fight. 463 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 4: I think that there were two officers who were facing 464 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: lacerations on their face. Of those who built it them. 465 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: Look, I've seen the videos of this snowball fight. 466 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: I think that it was a snowball fight. No, these 467 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: officers were not partaking in a snowball fight. And these 468 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: were not kids either. It was disgusting and what it 469 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: says to me is that the standards of how you 470 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: treat law enforcement in America have fallen to such new lows. 471 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: It is vile. And I tell you why, because the 472 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: rhetoric that surrounds law enforcement, whether it be police, FBI, ICE, 473 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: is disgusting. It's being weaponized, it's being politicized. It used 474 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: to be off limits. The people who were willing to 475 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: risk their lives to protect their fellow countrymen, they used 476 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: to be off limits. You can criticize policy, you can 477 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: criticize the deceis of politicians, absolutely, but the people themselves 478 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: used to be off limits because both sides understood that 479 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: what they did matted, and how they were treated matted, 480 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: and how they were spoken about publicly, the discourse matted. 481 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: Not anymore, the Democrats have gone so low here, making 482 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: them into a target. So it's not just about snowballfer 483 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: it's about how they are treated. It's about how ICE 484 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: officers are treated. It's about how police are treated. Now, 485 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: I've spoken to a man called Merlin Lofton who is 486 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: the head of the Fallen Officers Foundation, and he does 487 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: not hold back here. He says, they are going to 488 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: walk and can you blame them? Watch Sergeant Merlin Lofton, 489 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: twenty five year veteran. First of all, thank you so 490 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: much for your service. 491 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 492 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with morale, my friend, you would have these 493 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: conversations day in day out. Where does it sit when 494 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: it comes to law enforcement offices in America right now? 495 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 6: Well, airing law enforcement officers we put on our badge, 496 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 6: gun and uniform every day to do a job for 497 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 6: the United States of America and any citizens abroad, and 498 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 6: we try to go with the most the highest morale possible. 499 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 6: But in the current political environment, we get a lot 500 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 6: of blowback that's really unwarranted from us doing our job 501 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 6: that specified in our standard operating procedures and we try 502 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 6: to uphold the law in the United States, and a 503 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 6: lot of that blowback actually comes from political representatives that 504 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 6: are supposed to be on our side. So that makes 505 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 6: a very dangerous environment for law enforcement officers to do 506 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 6: our job. 507 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: How does it feel as someone in law enforcement who 508 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: wakes up every morning knowing that the choices they've made 509 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: could have them killed day and day out. They are 510 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: willing to give their life in service of their fellow citizens. 511 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: That would be hard enough with the support of your 512 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: political leaders. How much harder does it make when they're 513 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: taking put chucks publicly or questioning your integrity when what 514 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: you are doing is the job that you are paid 515 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: to doing, that you do because you care deeply. 516 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 6: That's absolutely correct, Aaron, you said it perfectly. Law enforcement 517 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 6: officers go to work every day willing to lay down 518 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 6: their life for the protection of others, and these are 519 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 6: people they don't even know. Already this year, we've had 520 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 6: fourteen law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty 521 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 6: in the United States. 522 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: Five of those were by gunfire. 523 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 6: And when I tell you political rhetoric from our leaders 524 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 6: have an effect on the community, those are not just you. 525 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: Know, soft words. 526 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 6: They lay very hard at the feet and the heart 527 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 6: of law enforcement officers because we are the ones that 528 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 6: have to deal with the blowback that a lot of 529 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 6: the politicians are creating against law enforcement. 530 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting that. 531 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 6: Called names like you know, gaes Bo and Nazis and 532 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 6: things like that. Even our ICE agents are getting called 533 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 6: that for trying to do their job. 534 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: I know that you probably don't want to get overly political, 535 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: and I understand that. But some of the things coming 536 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: out of the mouths of Democrats I considered to be criminal, 537 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: and it used to be that that would be off limits. 538 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: You can question policies, you can take, have a crack 539 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: at the opposition, But to ever put into doubt in 540 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: the minds of your people the integrity of those who 541 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: are charged with keeping them safe, that is a whole 542 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: other ballgame. I haven't seen to this extent before. Have 543 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: you seen it to this level before? Where you are, 544 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: it feels like it's open slaughter on you and your people. 545 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Aaron, I've never seen it to this 546 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 6: level before. As a matter of fact, Aaron, that's part 547 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 6: of the reason the ICE agents made the decision to 548 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 6: wear a mask, because it can affect not just them, 549 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 6: it can affect their families. There are kids that are 550 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 6: in school, them trying to go to church, and people 551 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 6: showing up at the church and actually protesting in a 552 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 6: place that's supposed to be for worshiping the Lord or 553 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 6: for you know, religion. 554 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: I mean, this is what law. 555 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 6: Enforcements facing nowadays, and it's absolutely crazy. We've never seen 556 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 6: an environment like this, and Aaron, I tell you, is 557 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 6: getting more and more dangerous for law enforcement officers to 558 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 6: do their jobs. 559 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought up the family aspect because again, 560 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: and it's similar to what I said to preface the 561 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: last question. It's hard enough being married to someone who 562 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: leaves the house and you know deep within they could 563 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: lose their life that day. But it's a sacrifice you 564 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: are willing to make, and you make that sacrifice as 565 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: a family as well. To then be targeted by people 566 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: because he or she is doing a job like ice 567 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: is insane. What happens, what happens next? How many more 568 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: of your officers need to die or be heard or 569 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: have their families harassed for people up there to wake 570 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: up and realize that at the cold face the impact 571 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: that they're having and their words are having and their 572 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: behavior is having. 573 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 6: Absolutely words have a great impact on law enforcement officers. 574 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 6: I mean, but you know, law enforcement officers, nobody wants 575 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 6: to die. I mean, we go to work and we 576 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 6: train to live to protect. Nobody wants to die. But 577 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 6: if we have to. I mean, if we have to 578 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 6: lay our life down, then we understand you know, what 579 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 6: the job is that we actually you know, go in 580 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 6: to job to do every day. 581 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: We understand that. 582 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 6: However, the rhetoric makes it incredibly more difficult. 583 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: It makes it, you know. 584 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 6: Incredibly more should I say, it makes the people want 585 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 6: to hurt us instead of help us. 586 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: And we need the public's help in order to do 587 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: effective policing. 588 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 6: You know, contrary to the popular belief, ninety percent of 589 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 6: the public actually support law enforcement. 590 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: The actually support us. 591 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 6: However, when politicians start using certain words and calling us 592 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 6: Nazis and things like that, that starts to go down 593 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 6: just a little bit, and we can't afford that margin 594 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 6: of discipro We can't afford it because that's when law 595 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 6: enforcement officers start getting killed. That's where law enforcement officers, 596 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 6: you know, your families start you know, being foundlies of 597 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 6: the falling. And we don't want we don't want any 598 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 6: more of that anymore. 599 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, I mean, what you would love, ideally 600 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: is for your organization not to exist. 601 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 6: You know, I would love it forever if there was 602 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 6: no need for the National Filling Officers Foundation. But unfortunately, 603 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 6: as I said before, we've already had fourteen die and 604 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 6: fourteen families to feel the heartbreak of losing their hero 605 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 6: already in twenty twenty six. 606 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: When you go out and about I mean, and I 607 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: don't think it's just because of my own experience or 608 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: having a father who is in the army or my 609 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: daughter's father who is a policeman. Currently, I look at 610 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: place and I smile and I thank them, and I 611 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: just have this immense respect. And it's also not fear, 612 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: because fear is the wrong word, you know. I think 613 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: it's not fear, but it's such a heightened respect that 614 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: I would never be rude. I would never do anything 615 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: I thought would make their jobs harder. You know, I 616 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: feel a little bit anxious when I see them, because 617 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's the level of respect and the way 618 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: in which I view what they do and how important 619 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: they are, Whereas I feel like with a lot of 620 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: young people that's completely lost. I look at some of 621 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: the interactions and some of these protesters, they're not protesters, 622 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: they're criminal agitators in a lot of different circumstances who 623 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: are The way they speak to them is horrific, The 624 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: way they get in their face and then you wonder 625 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: why things occur that have horrific outcomes. These guys are heightened, 626 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: they're on edge that they're under attack, not just from 627 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: the criminals that they're chasing, but from these other people 628 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: who are trying to stop them from chasing the actual criminals. 629 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to end in disaster, and it 630 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: already has. 631 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: That's absolutely correct erin. 632 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 6: I mean, back in the nineties, I could tell it 633 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 6: was starting to change because politicians were starting to go 634 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 6: on the attack against law enforcement. And then came the 635 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 6: defund the police movement, and then came the shootings right 636 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 6: after it, and the police officers dine and the people 637 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 6: that used to support us, all of a sudden, they 638 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 6: don't support us anymore. 639 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 2: You know. 640 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 6: Those are the things that we every day have to address, 641 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 6: we have to go against, and we shouldn't have to. 642 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: We are for the people. 643 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 6: We are here to chase the bad guy and put 644 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 6: the bad guys in jail. 645 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: We're not like you. 646 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: Eye your community. We have people. 647 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 6: Absolutely, we are a part of the community. We are 648 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 6: your neighbors. We are you know, we are the ones 649 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 6: you see in the grocery store. But unfortunately, nowadays, when 650 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 6: you go to the grocery store. If somebody see that 651 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 6: badge or gun, you're more likely to get in a fight, 652 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 6: somebody more likely start talking very negatively about you. And 653 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 6: that's not what it's supposed to be. That's not what 654 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 6: we're hit for. That's not what the badge is there for. 655 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 6: The badge is there to protect and serve with honesty 656 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 6: and integrity. 657 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: And that's what law enforcement. 658 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 6: That's what we still stand for if we're allowed to 659 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 6: do our jobs. But that's something that's getting, as you 660 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 6: said before, more difficult to do, more difficult to stay 661 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 6: alive community that we're trying to protect. 662 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: Merlin, When do you see people just say, why the 663 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: hell would I sign up for this? Or if I've 664 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: been there for twenty years, I can give another five 665 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: years like you have. Or this is way too hard, 666 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't get paid enough. You know, it used to 667 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: be an honorable job. Now I feel like I'm demonized. 668 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm going somewhere else. When do we start to lose 669 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: all the people that we need to keep Americans safe? 670 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: Because I can't imagine why anyone would stay and do it. 671 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: Your heroes, but you're being treated like dirt. 672 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, Aaron and all of those things you said 673 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 6: I've heard before. I've heard from younger officers. I'm hearing 674 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 6: it from older officers. I'm hearing officers want to retire 675 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 6: because they feel like they're getting disrespected. They're putting their 676 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 6: lives on the line, and they no longer they get 677 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 6: they hit that wall or burnout, you know, the job 678 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 6: as difficult as it is, but now they're getting hated for. 679 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 2: Putting on the uniform. 680 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 6: Every day they're getting you know, people are coming up 681 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 6: to their houses, bamming on their doors, attacking them at home, 682 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 6: following them home on things like that, and they're worried 683 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 6: about their families. 684 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: Where do we get here? How do we get here? 685 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: I tell you how we get here now. 686 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 6: I don't like to be political, especially when I'm talking, 687 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 6: you know, out of representation for the National Falling Office Foundation, 688 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 6: but a lot of leaders brought us to this, you know, crossroads, 689 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 6: you know, and they've they've really put. 690 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 2: Police, you know, in a very very tough situation. 691 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 6: They've politicized law enforcement work, you know, and and it 692 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 6: should never get like that. Should it should be out 693 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 6: of bounds. 694 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: But now they put it very much in bounds. 695 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 6: And that's that that's really affecting the profession. That's and 696 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 6: it's getting harder and harder to recruit people to come 697 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 6: do honorable work that's you know, that's supposed to be 698 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 6: to support the community, to you know, to really really 699 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 6: you know, late honor to our country. 700 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: It's getting harder to recruit people to do that. 701 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: What would you say not only to everyday Americans, but 702 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: to the is in positions of power in leadership who 703 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: are constantly politicizing this issue and contributing to the demonization 704 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: of law enforcement. What would you say to them now. 705 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 6: Well, one thing I want now is law enforcement is 706 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 6: your free We're willing to lay our lives down for 707 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 6: people we don't even know. 708 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: You know, these are moms, these are dads, these are brothers, 709 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 2: these are sisters that put. 710 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 6: On their uniform every day to do a job to 711 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 6: protect the United States of America and abroad. It's not 712 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 6: just in America. It's feeling this, They're feeling it worldwide. 713 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 6: All over North America. Law enforcement officers are getting attacked 714 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 6: and it needs to stop. What I say to the 715 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 6: politician to tone it down, stop attacking police officers. The 716 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 6: very same person that you call when people want yes 717 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 6: when people want to come knocking at your door, when 718 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 6: gun may want to break in your house and shoot 719 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 6: you just because they don't like the way you voted 720 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 6: in Congress or in your state, in your state political offices. 721 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 6: We are the people that you call to be the 722 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 6: hero that you hired us to be. Let us do 723 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 6: that without demonizing the badge and demonizing the individual. Because 724 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 6: behind that badge, as we said before, it's a mother, 725 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 6: is a father, is ay brother, it's ay sister. 726 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 2: It's a child behind every. 727 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 6: Badge, And I think that needs to be remembered the 728 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 6: next time someone wants to say something negative about police 729 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 6: officers worldwide, they're the ones that's gonna come run to 730 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 6: your aid when everybody else run away. 731 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: So beautifully put and something that just sprung to mind 732 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: that we haven't touched on yet is in the moment 733 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: something's happening, police have to act, and they rely on 734 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: training and they rely on instinct, and they're so good 735 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: at their jobs. But I can't imagine anyone now being 736 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: in a position where they don't have a moment of 737 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: doubt where they're pausing and thinking, am I going to 738 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: be in trouble? 739 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 3: For? 740 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: Am I gonna get it wrong? Am I gonna be 741 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: ostracized in front of the world. Is a politician going 742 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: to question whether or not I made the right choice? 743 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: And look, everyone has to be accountable. I get that, 744 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: But we also kind of afford to have our police 745 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: questioning whether or not we're going to have their back 746 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: when they have to act in circumstances none of us 747 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: could even imagine that side is significant too, isn't it 748 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: given the rhetoric and what's being said is when they 749 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: need to make a tough decision to keep people safe, 750 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: what if they pause and they hesitate because they think 751 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to be thrown to the wolves. That's 752 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: not a big deal. 753 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 6: I'm sorry I spoke over you there. But what is 754 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 6: very valid and that doubt, that moment. 755 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,479 Speaker 2: Of hesitation that exists, and that has. 756 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 6: Gotten law enforcement officers killed because you don't have but 757 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 6: a fraction of a second to react in a deadly 758 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 6: forced situation, and that very doubt could be the difference 759 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 6: between life or death. And it has been, it has 760 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 6: been in the past, it has been, it will be 761 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 6: in the future. Because of the political environment that law 762 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 6: enforcement officers are forced to do their job within that's 763 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 6: why that doubt exists, and that doubt, unfortunately, is causing 764 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 6: law enforcement officers to get hurt and some to lose 765 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 6: their lives. 766 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 2: You're exactly right. 767 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: Is President Trump a friend of law enforcement? Have you 768 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: seen a president who's had your back in a bigger 769 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: way than President Trump? 770 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 6: President Trump as a friend of law enforcement. I mean, 771 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 6: he supports law enforcement, he supports military. 772 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 2: He is the lawman of lawmen. 773 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 6: He's the only one that would come out and support 774 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 6: us through think and thin, while everybody else it is, 775 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 6: you know, talking their talk against us, want to score 776 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 6: political points. He's with us through think and thin, and 777 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 6: that's why we support him as he support us, even 778 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 6: though he also feels the things that we feel, which 779 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 6: is the blowback from the community. As we saw at 780 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 6: one thirty am Washington time, someone again tried to come 781 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 6: on his property to do harm to our president. 782 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: And this is the thing, isn't it. It's so heightened 783 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: at the moment. A final question, Merlin, you look at 784 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: this renewed culture of assassination. Everyone is so on edge. 785 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: You've got the rhetoric which is not helping. You've got 786 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: the politicization, the demonization of law enforcement, You've then got 787 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: this situation in Iran at the moment where this huge 788 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: buildup of US military assets in that region, the biggest 789 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: since the start of the Iraq War. It is heightened 790 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: at the moment. Everyone is on edge, which is a 791 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: recipe for disaster if people don't feel supported. 792 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: That's absolutely correct. 793 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 6: And with you touching on Iran, that's a very valid 794 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 6: point because we have a lot of Iranians living right 795 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 6: here in the United. 796 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: States, and some of them are illegal. 797 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 6: Now do you really want, you know, illegals running around 798 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 6: in the United States from other countries and we are 799 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 6: about to go to war with their home country. 800 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: Think about it. 801 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: There are proxies. There are Islamic regime of around proxies 802 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: already on the ground in America. There is a bounty 803 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: on President Trump's head. They benefit from chaos in America absolutely. 804 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 6: Absolutely, So please support law enforcement. That's for everybody just 805 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 6: listening to your podcast. 806 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 2: Please support law. 807 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 6: Enforcement because we are the only ones you can call 808 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 6: when the heat is really on. 809 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: You are a hero, Merlin, and you speak so beautifully 810 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: and passionately and authentically, and you're such I now know 811 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: why my very good friend Trey handed the baton to you. 812 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, thank you for 813 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: your passion, Thank you for fighting for I think the bravest, 814 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: most courageous members of our community. They deserve our support. 815 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: We'll continue to fight for them here and I'd love 816 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: to have you back on it some stage as well. 817 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you, well, my loves. Is 818 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: time now for a little bit of fan feedback, and 819 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: let's have a look a couple of spicy bits of 820 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: commentary back this way, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Let 821 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 1: me have a look here now, this lovely person, doctor 822 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: David Hilton. He's a doctor, guys, so what he says 823 00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: must be factual. He says Aaron Mullin is only fans 824 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: for boomers. I mean again, I'm torn. Only fans would 825 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: infer that I'm a little bit hot, you know. For 826 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: boomers though, might infer that I am past my best 827 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: but I'm a little old. Or are they old and 828 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: they just like me because I'm so young? No, probably 829 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: the first i'd say, given it's meant to be an insult, 830 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 1: But thank you, doctor David Hilton. Beautiful. What he says 831 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: regarding Trump Tower and Gold Coast looks like the Gold 832 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 1: Coast isn't as woke as you'd think. Yeah, we will see. 833 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: We will see. There's still some hurdles to overcome there, 834 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: but we will see. I've got message from an anonymous person, 835 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: an email, and this is more for the Australian audience 836 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: because I'll there my past. But he says, Hi, I 837 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: know Aeron isn't reading this whole. I am, but I 838 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: urge the person that is to show erin this apology 839 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: and more so praise. Years ago, when Aaron was on 840 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: the Footy Show, I was one of the people she 841 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,959 Speaker 1: called out for harassing her with comments like she doesn't 842 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: belong there. I've toughened up significantly since then. Clearly, if 843 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: I called you out for saying that, Although I maintain 844 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: I never threatened her daughter, when she went on sixty 845 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: minutes and exposed that, I felt sick. Yes, that was 846 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: very vile when it came to my child. That was 847 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: the hard part of all of that. Yes, I was 848 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: ashamed of my part. I thought I was just being misogynistic. 849 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: I sincerely apologize. I've watched Aaron in the media the 850 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 1: past few years since COVID and I'm actually so proud 851 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: of her. Courage, critique and intellect. She speaks so professionally 852 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: and clearly. I admire Errand's message. A while back she 853 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: spoke about men's mental health and rights, and recently the 854 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: shape of Australian politics. I just want to say thank 855 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: you anyway. I appreciate that very much. I actually really do. 856 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: It's so interesting thinking back to that time in my 857 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: life when I mean, I was it felt at the time, 858 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: I was attacked mercilessly as the first woman in Australia 859 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 1: to host different kind of sporting shows and different sporting events. 860 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: I look back now and the Errand that exists today 861 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: would not have given a tinker's cuss, but the Errand 862 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: that existed back then was deeply affected by it. It's 863 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: very interesting, but I feel like now I'm able to 864 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: cope with this space because of what I went through 865 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: back then. So in some ways I'm grateful. But I 866 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: think for me, the part that that I will never 867 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: understand is when my child is brought into it and 868 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: there are physical threats. There were threats of I won't 869 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: even say but sexual violence against a two. You know, 870 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: it was vile, So that side of it was awful, 871 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: but the other less intense stuff has helped me prepare 872 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: for this world that I exist in now, so I 873 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: am grateful for it. Someone said, in response to my 874 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: Megan markle clip, you do look and sound dim enough 875 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: to not know that regarding champagne being put in the fridge. 876 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: Yet they've spelt not knot awkward when you're calling me 877 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: dim slash dumb, I would get the spelling right. Just 878 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: a side note, and another doctor, doctor Annie, has said 879 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: on X you are above this, and that was my 880 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: joke regarding Megan Michael's massive revelation that we should put 881 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: champagne in the fridge, And I said, no, I kind 882 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: of like mine, like toilet water lukewarm, obviously being sarcastic. 883 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: My friends, we can be multi dimensional here. I can 884 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: talk about war in the Middle East. I can stand 885 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: up for Western civilization, and I can take the mickey 886 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: and believe you me, I take the mickey out of 887 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: myself more than anyone else. And if we can't laugh, 888 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: what's the point. So now I'm not above that. I 889 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: didn't commit a cardinal's sin. I took the mickey out 890 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: of someone in public life who had put online a 891 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: very obvious tip. So no, I completely own that and 892 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: I will continue to have a laugh because we need 893 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: to otherwise, what is the point. I love you all. 894 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the State of the Union 895 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: clip if you haven't. What's that already? We'll have weekend 896 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: episode will be on the Salem News Channel over the 897 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: weekend as well Saturday and Sunday one pm, and then 898 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: back next week. But you can. You can be with 899 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 1: us all the time. Socials YouTube podcast. Make sure you follow, rate, share, 900 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: click all the other things. Love you all, We'll see 901 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: you see