1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Hi from the Salvation Army. You're listening to Words of Life. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 3: Words the words. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 4: These are the words of the Life. 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 5: Welcome back to Words of Life. 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: Much of this series about community engagement was inspired by 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: the book One Thousand Cups of Tea. This book provides 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: a passionate description of how effective and fulfilling ministry can 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: be when it's built on relationships made possible by cultural 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: understanding and fluency in the language of the local people. 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: So we are so excited to now be joined by 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: the author himself from the other side of the globe, 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Preston Fiddler. We'll have links to his books and resources 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: in the show notes, so be sure to check those 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: out for more information. 16 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 5: Hello to our listeners. 17 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: We would love for you to meet Preston Fiddler. Thank 18 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: you so much for joining us. 19 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm really happy to join. This is great to be 20 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: a part of this podcast. 21 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: Just to start, introduce yourself to our listeners. Who are you, 22 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: kind of your Salvation story, just a little bit of 23 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: your background. 24 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, my name Preston Fiddler. I grew up hearing the 25 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: gospel from my mom and dad. It was just amazing 26 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: just to be able to, you know, have at an 27 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: early age, growing understanding of what God did for me, 28 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: what Jesus did for me my sin and just the 29 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: need for repentance and just being able to experience out 30 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: of the young age was just with such a gift, 31 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: a gift from the Lord, a gift from my mom 32 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: and dad. So the desire that I have to share 33 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: the gospel I think comes from an early age as well. 34 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, there are times when I mean, we all 35 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: drift and we all come back to the Lord when 36 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: I really have been strengthened in my relationship with God. 37 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: It correlates with time in God's word and prayer. So 38 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: being able to just sort of follow that path in 39 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: that journey has been really really good for me. So we, 40 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: my wife and I have spent decades working in mostly 41 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: cross cultural contexts, both in the US, but so in Asia, 42 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: most recently in Central Asia, where we're working alongside teams 43 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: to really help with gospel proclamation, with discipling, with discipling 44 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: new believers, and you know, with planting churches. I mean, 45 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: it's just been a joyful journey. I mean, not without difficulties, 46 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: but honestly, it's been such it's been incredibly fulfilling to 47 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: be involved in that, and that's been kind of the 48 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: foundation of what I write because it comes out of 49 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: this deep desire to continue on that journey of being 50 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: able to fluently share the Gospel and just seeing God 51 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: at work in people's lives. I mean, there's such joy 52 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: in that and then being able to really cast that vision. 53 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: So that's really where A Thousand Cups of Tea kind 54 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: of was birthed. And just you know, years of doing 55 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: this and lessons learned and you know, just being able 56 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: to help people see while there's such joy in being 57 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: able to do this for the glory of God. 58 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: When or where did God start working in your heart 59 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: to really have this passion to preach the gospel like 60 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: outside of you know, kind of where you grew up 61 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: and really see the rest of the world and learn 62 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: these other languages and other cultures. How did God start 63 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: working in your heart to really have such a passion 64 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: for that. 65 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Well. I spent two years in Asia, just in Thailand 66 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: actually kind of just exploring is this what God wants 67 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: me to do with my life? And it was challenging 68 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: to learn the language, and I thought that I, you know, 69 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: had the skills to be able to share the gospel. 70 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: And I remember sitting in a taxi once and I 71 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: had a paper in front of me, and I was 72 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: trying to share the gospel and it was just kind 73 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: of scribbled down and I got through my speel and 74 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: he was like what, And I said, did you understand 75 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: what I just said? He said, just say it to 76 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: me in your own words, and so I did. It 77 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: was the first time that I actually took what I 78 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: had written down and just tried to say it in 79 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: my own words. And then he said to me, Okay, 80 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: I understood that way better, and I thought, okay, this 81 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: is the direction I need to go with this. And 82 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: so from that time on, I've been really exploring what 83 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: does it mean to actually share the gospel, you know, 84 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: as a conversation and that, Yeah, that really is the 85 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: heartbeat of what I write and what I try to practice. 86 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: Hey, you're listening to the Salvation Army's Words of Life. 87 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick bad break and we'll 88 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: be right back. So we're going to spend a good 89 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: bit of time just kind of touching on specifically your 90 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: book A Thousand Cups of Tea. Where did that metaphor 91 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: come from? What does a thousand cups of tea. 92 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Mean, so I have been involved in helping people learn language. 93 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: So my background is an implied linguistics And when I 94 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: have had people ask me the question, what is the 95 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: path toward getting to really being fluent in the language, 96 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: proficient in the language, being able to share the gospel? 97 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: I realized that they're thinking, you know, lessons learned, or 98 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: maybe time spent or you know, hours in a program 99 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: of learning. And I realized it's really not about that. 100 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: It's really about the relationships we have with people and 101 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: spending time with people. And in the cultures that I've 102 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: worked in, these are tea cultures, and so it just, 103 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, there was one point where I just said 104 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: it just, man, it just takes up thousand cups of tea. 105 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: You just got to be with people. You've got to 106 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: be all in and all there. And that just kind 107 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: of stuck. And I have conversations with people, you know, 108 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: from North America and Latin America and other places that 109 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: are in coffee cultures, and so they'll actually kind of 110 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: re rework it and say, you know, I'm just having 111 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: my thousand cups of coffee time with people, you know, 112 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: and getting time with people and of course is that 113 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's great. You know, it's just whatever we 114 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: can do to just get that time with people where 115 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: we're really there, sitting with them, hearing their stories. And 116 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of the metaphor. And I think also just 117 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: that idea of at least with maybe with coffee too, 118 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, but with tea there's steeping effect. You know, 119 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: you've got to just let the conversation kind of percolate, 120 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: I guess, to really see where the gospel emerges. So 121 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: there's that piece too that kind of works, I guess 122 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: within the metaphor. 123 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: I think of myself and even just people in my 124 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 6: community with the same language as my neighbors, that sometimes 125 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 6: is a challenge to communicate the gospel and to neighbor 126 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 6: how God would want us to. And so as I 127 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 6: was reading your book, you talk about the story of 128 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 6: Moses and him feeling not equipped. As I think of outreach, 129 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 6: we think maybe like a preacher. That's something a preacher 130 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 6: does or something like that for the normal person. Could 131 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 6: you just unpack where that comes from? Should we be 132 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 6: doing this and where does our strength and ability to 133 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 6: have that courage to step out and do that come from? 134 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: You know, that was really an AHA moment for me 135 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: because I was looking at this whole thing from a 136 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: cross cultural and learning another language perspective for a long time, 137 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: just kind of having it in that category, but more recently, 138 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: like what you're saying is, I realized, Man, this is 139 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: for all of us. I mean, people who just live 140 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: right across the street. You don't have to get on 141 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: a plane and go to another culture, another language, learn 142 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: another language. The people who are all around us, their lives, 143 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: their situations, what they're dealing with, the issues they face, 144 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: the hard stories of their lives. If we don't listen, 145 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: if we don't really have that kind of compassion to 146 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: really be there with them and listen and respond with 147 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, with compassion and also with love and with 148 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: great hope. In the gospel, I mean, these are the 149 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: conversations that God calls us into and all of us 150 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: can do this with a little equipping and a little encouragement. 151 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: And that's really what that's what I want to see happen. 152 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I want to practice, and 153 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: I really want to encourage other people to do that. 154 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm not doing it with my neighbor across 155 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the street. 156 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: I don't. 157 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to get on a plane 158 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: and go, you know, to another country and do it. 159 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: And honestly, when I you know, when I coach and 160 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: just work with people who are trying to learn language 161 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: and maybe they're lagging in motivation, I just come back 162 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: to hey, just let's just come back to the joy 163 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: of the Gospel in our lives, because really, you know, 164 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of guilt out there. There's like 165 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: people going a I don't feel equipped to share the 166 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Gospel with my neighbor. I don't know them. I don't 167 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: know how to get to know them. I mean, how 168 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: do I go up and you even ask their names? 169 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: They just came well, you know, like I mean, just 170 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: ask the Lord, pray for them, and God will give 171 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: you opportunities and you will experience joy. But let's start here. 172 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: Let's start with like, just remember the Gospel in your life. 173 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Make sure and as you read God's word that it's 174 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: not just words on a page, but it's it's it's 175 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: God speaking to you from his word, and he reminds 176 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: us of the Gospel in our lives. He reminds us 177 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: of how much He has done for us, and when 178 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: we can just remember that, and even more if we 179 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: can remember that with our family or with people in 180 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: our church, to be able to say, hey, can we 181 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: just kind of get some time together and remind each 182 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: other of the gospel. Have this conversation that right there 183 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: is like so motivating for us to then say, hey, 184 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: let's just go and share this same story that I'm 185 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, that we're sharing with each other, with our 186 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: lost neighbors who you know, just listen to their stories 187 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: and share what we just shared here with them, because 188 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: this is good news they need to hear. You know. 189 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: A local partner told me once, I just, man, I 190 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: just want to tell people how much Jesus has done 191 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: for me. And it's like that from that deep motivation 192 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: and that joy and that desire, it's like, wow, that's 193 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: what I h That's how I want to live my life. 194 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: And God delights in them. He gives us those opportunities, 195 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: and so Chris Yat, that's I mean, that's that's what 196 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: I want to live. That's how I want to live 197 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: and how I want to write, and how I want 198 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: to share, you know, with others what they can be living, 199 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: you know, what they can be experiencing. 200 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: We ray that you're enjoying and being blessed by this conversation. 201 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: We're going to take one more ad break and we'll 202 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 3: be right back. I want to throw a quote your 203 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: way that we discussed yesterday and our recording. This actually 204 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: isn't from your book. This is from the art of neighboring. 205 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: We don't love our neighbors to convert them. We love 206 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: our neighbors because we are converted. What do you think 207 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: about that quote? How does that speak to you? 208 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Man? I'm that's that's a really amazing quote. Loving our 209 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: neighbors to Jesus, you know. I just I think that 210 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Jesus demonstrated that in John thirteen when he washed his 211 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: disciples feet and said go and do likewise. It's like 212 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: when we can be with people, you know, just be 213 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: with them and hear they're hard stories, hard stories, I mean, 214 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: hear what's going on in their lives. It's like, if 215 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: we don't identify with that with how much Jesus has 216 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: done for us when he saved us. I mean, that's 217 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: the joy of the Lord, you know, when we live 218 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: from that place of delight in just thanking God for 219 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: that he saved us. And we you know, he converted us. 220 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean he is. He has given us eternal life, 221 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: He's changed our lives. We were born again and that deep, 222 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, sense of thankfulness, that's what propels us to 223 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: be able to share that good it's good news. You know. 224 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: We get to share that with our neighbors. And I 225 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: think it comes back to we get to do this 226 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: rather than we have to. Yeah, I think if we 227 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: approach it from this perspective of feeling like we have 228 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: to convert our neighbors, it's just I think we're seeing 229 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: it backwards and we've got to see it from this 230 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: place of man. I have been converted. I am redeemed. 231 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: God has saved me. And I get to tell this 232 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: good news to my neighbors. The first we need to 233 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: hear and just hear their stories. If it's just us 234 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: feeling like we've got a task to do or something 235 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: to say, you know, like I want to give you 236 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: these four propositional truths of the Gospel. Just listen, stop, 237 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: don't say anything. Listen to me. You know it can 238 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: it can really come across a noise because we're not 239 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: listening to them and hearing their stories and seeing how 240 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: where they are what you know, what is the gospel 241 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: for them today? What's that? That that good news that 242 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: they need to hear right now? That then we will 243 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: open the door to more opportunities to share the gospel 244 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: that they can really hear and understand. And that's I 245 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: think loving our neighbors to Jesus. 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