1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: He's editor in chief of Breitbart News and a New 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: York Times best selling author, and on this podcast he 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: brings deep research, prescient analysis at world class guests. He's 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Alex Marlow and this is the Alex Marlow Show. 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: I'm Alex Marlow. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: I'm the editor in chief of bright Bart News, also 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: the host of The Alex Marlow Show radio show and podcast. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: And perhaps the thing. 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: I'm most proud of which I was the first employee 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: of bright Bart News, hired by Andrew Breitbart about seventeen 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: years ago, which is an amazing thing and something I'm 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: proud of every single day. Thank you all for being here, 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: and we've got a great morning of conversations for you. 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: Should be informative, interesting, and hopefully, in the spirit of Breitbart, 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: hopefully break some news here as well. We also are 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: continuing our event series. We've had lots of great events. 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: The last one was with the Vice President and the 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: next one is already on the books with the FCC Chairman, 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: Brendan Carr. So with those invitations, we'll be going out soon, 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: so stay tuned for that. We should have a ton 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: for this year. 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I have 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: a co host today who I'm very thrilled to bring up. 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: He is my partner in crime on the Breitbart Business Digest. 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: Everyone go to Brybart dot com and subscribe right now. 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: Our economic and finance editor, and I think the guy 31 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: who knows maga economics better than anyone, our finance editor, 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: John Carney. 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, Alex. 34 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: All right, well, without your further delay, let's bring up 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: the Honorable Secretary of Commerce, Howard Latnik. 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: Hey guy, mister Secretary, thanks for being here, so nice 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: to see you. 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: All right, So, of course I had some opening questions 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: all planned out, and then I woke up this morning 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: and something spectacular has happened within our country. Jobs data 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: is ridiculous, blowout numbers one hundred and thirty thousand new 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: jobs versus fifty five thousand expected unemployment, rates down, wages 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: are going up, and our favorite of bright our news, 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 3: the federal government lost thirty four thousand jobs. Pretty amazing stuff. 45 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 3: This ties into so much of the agenda. But your reaction, well. 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: The President is driving growth in America, right. 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you think about how you drive growth. 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: You cut you cut down your imports right by tariffing them. 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: You drive your exports by opening all these foreign markets 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: and driving their tariffs down, right, and those two things 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: obviously drive economic growth. 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Then you bring eighteen trillion dollars. 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: The President loves that number because it's monstrous trillion dollars 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: of domestic investment, all these factories being built here, and 55 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: what you're going to get is you're going to get 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: a manufacturing rebirth in America. You're going to get construction 57 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: jobs blowing out the doors, and those are going to 58 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: be followed by manufacturing jobs coming. So I think you're 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: going to get the greatest growth the United States has 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: ever seen. And if we get if Kevin Warsh delivers 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: and cuts rates, I think right now in the first quarter, 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: my opinion is you're going to see six percent growth 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: for the greatest economy in the world. You got to realize, 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: this is a thirty trillion dollar economy growing six percent, 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: So the fastest growth in the world, and it's not 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: like it's easy out there. Right last quarter, the UK 67 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: group point one, Europe group point four, and Japan shrank 68 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: point six. So it's like a tough world out there 69 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: and we're kicking tail. 70 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: So basically, you think about it, we. 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: Were exporting our economy to the rest of the world 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: by importing all their stuff, buying all their stuff, and 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 4: employing them. And what the President said is, we're not 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: going to be the same as everyone else. We're not 75 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: going to grow two point one and they grow one 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: point eight like we're all used to. 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: We are going to be who we are. 78 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: If we're the greatest economy in the world and the 79 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: greatest country. 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: In the world, let's grow like we're. 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 4: The greatest economy in the world and the greatest country. 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: In the world. 83 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: Let's take air of Americans. And that's what you're feeling. 84 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: You're going to see it in GDP numbers. You're going 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: to see it. 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: In employment numbers. 87 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: You're going to see it in manufacturing numbers. You're going 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 4: to see it relentlessly in twenty twenty six. You're going 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: to feel it coming and we are going to win. 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 5: I think Alex actually underplayed how good these job numbers 91 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 5: were the one hundred and thirty thousand. It's impressive, but 92 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 5: it's one hundred and seventy two thousand in the private sector. 93 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 5: You guys are shrinking the government while and people said, oh, 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 5: that'll be a drag on gd that'll be a drag unemployment. 95 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: It's I don't see the drag. 96 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of funny though, the whole GDP counting government. 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: You know, I hire I think about it. If everybody 98 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: left the auto industry and joined the DMV Department of 99 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: Motor Vehicles, they would say GDP is flat. You'd say, no, no, no, 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: come on, if you work for DMV, you're not like 101 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: producing right right, But that's not the way GDP works. 102 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: So our view is, let's reduce the size of government. 103 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: Let's get those people out into the real world, earning, 104 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: producing and growing, and our economy will actually be better. 105 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: And that's what we're doing. 106 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: So when I walked into the Department of Commerce, had 107 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: fifty two thousand people, and now I have forty thousand people. 108 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: You could ask me what to the forty thousand people. 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: That's a lot of people. 110 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: But what you're learning government is the people who work 111 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 4: for the government are much better than you can imagine. 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: But they are also very very specific in their focus, 113 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: so they're really experts at narrow They're not like, you know, 114 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: when you start a business, you could be the chief 115 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: cook and bottle washer. You know, in government you have 116 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: a bottle washer and a cook, right, you just don't 117 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 4: have people to do across the board. But they're great. 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 4: You know, my department's got tons of amazingly great people. 119 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: But they're very, very narrow and very focused. 120 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: And obviously what. 121 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: We want to do is we think technology can dramatically 122 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: improve this. And I can talk about why there hasn't 123 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: been technology put into the United States government since nineteen 124 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: seventy five. It might make you a little nauseous, but 125 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: they changed the Canton rules in nineteen seventy five and 126 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: so they stopped putting in new software. But with the 127 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: advent of AI and this administration, our objective is to 128 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: rip all the software out of the United States America 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 4: and put in new software so that the next administration 130 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: has the right answer to run the government properly. 131 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: So you threw out a huge number there, six percent 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: GDP growth give us the path to get there. 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: Well, as I said, if imports are down and exports 134 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: are up. That means when imports are down, we're consuming 135 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: our own stuff, right, and export's growing. 136 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: Right. 137 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: We'd smashed down tariffs across the world, so now our 138 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: people have the ability to sell their goods overseas. 139 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: Right. 140 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: So those two things together, and then you bring that 141 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: in with construction. I mean I went, I went to 142 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: a groundbreaking of a one hundred billion dollar megafab to 143 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: build high bandwidth memory in Syracuse, New York. Now, this 144 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: will give you a good idea of how this works. 145 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: Why would someone build one hundred billion dollar semiconductive factory 146 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: this this is not the data center. This is like 147 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: literally making the chips that go in the data center. 148 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: One hundred billion dollar factories, forty thousand construction jobs, twenty 149 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: five thousand. 150 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: People going to work in the. 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: High tech factory going forward, and these are technical jobs. 152 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: Why would you build in Syracuse? Syracuse like the basketball 153 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: team we used to see when they were great, they'd 154 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: play in the Carrier Dome, right, because there was a 155 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 4: big industrial complex. Ge was there, Carrier was there, and 156 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: they all left. But what didn't they leave. They left 157 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: these hulking old factories that need to be torn down. 158 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: But they had stranded power. Right if you think about 159 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: all these communities, they had paper mills, they had steel factories, 160 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: they had all. 161 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: This power that no one's now using. 162 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 4: And what you're going to see is you're going to 163 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: see the revitalization, the resurrection of all these community because 164 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: they built the power once upon a time and that 165 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: power is sitting there kind of cheap, like the Geico money. 166 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,239 Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of staring at people saying. 167 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: Cheap power, cheap power. 168 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: And you're going to see these communities come back to life. 169 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: And it's beautiful because, let's face it, you know, when 170 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: we went and did a groundbreaking for one hundred billion dollar. 171 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: Factory in Syracuse, I don't think they'd seen anything. 172 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 4: I think they'd only heard the sucking sound of everybody leaving. 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: I don't think they ever saw the fact that there's 174 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: going to be monstrous amount of trucks. And by the way, 175 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: just for a little fun, what did we have to 176 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: do as the Trump administration to get that factory built? 177 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: Besides negotiating with Micron, besides changing the terms of the 178 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: Biden administration Chips Act, which they had messed up completely, 179 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff they had Theoretically, a bat, 180 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: I'm not kidding, you can't make this stuff up. 181 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: Okay, A bat habitat in the tree in this forest. 182 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, can you prove there's a bad 183 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: hab known because I didn't know bats I have habitats that. 184 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: Live in the trees. 185 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: So we attacked the science, which was of course bullshit, 186 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 4: and then they built one hundred billion dollar But can 187 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: you imagine there are people saying, I want to protect 188 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: the bats in these trees rather than employing forty thousand 189 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 4: construction workers in twenty five thousand Americans to drive the 190 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: proper growth of America and build semiconductors in America. It's 191 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: just it's an illogical set of thoughts by the Democrats. 192 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 2: It's just illogical. 193 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: It's contrary to the interests of the people of America 194 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: in exchange for anybody else. And I think that's what 195 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 4: the Trump administration is here to address that we want 196 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 4: to put Americans first. 197 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: We want to get Americans in the. 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: Job, we want to build and resure our manufacturing and 199 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 4: B and B who we were met to be, which 200 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: is the greatest country on Earth with the greatest economy 201 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: on Earth, because we have the greatest people on earth. 202 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: So I want to get into manufacturing, productivity and your 203 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: efforts to slash the government. But I think it's really 204 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: important for some people to hear a little more about 205 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: your background. I think a lot of the people maybe 206 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: in the room, are familiar with it, but not everyone 207 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: watching will be. But you famously had five floors in 208 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: the World Trade Center and you lost six hundred I 209 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: think in fifty eight. I want to be precise employees 210 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: in nine to eleven, including your brother, and you built 211 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: this company and then you had to rebuild it. It's 212 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: one of the great American comeback stories of the century. 213 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: What leadership qualities did you learn during that time that 214 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: you feel like or really apply now maybe you see 215 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: them in President Trump. What are things that we can 216 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: all take away from that. 217 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: Well, you know, at the time, it was my company, 218 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: so I had a rule where we only work we 219 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: only work with people that we like, and that was 220 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: the rule. And you know that allowed nepotism. But the 221 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: way I say it this way, we all have the 222 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: same rainbow of friends. Think about your friends, the ones 223 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 4: on this side, smart capable winners. 224 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: Thinking about your friends now, the ones on this side, 225 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: make you laugh at the bar hearder. 226 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: Everybody else a little crazy, a little while. We all 227 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: have the same friends. Just hire the ones on this side. Okay, 228 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: that's the deal. So everybody hired their friends. So I 229 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: had my brother, I had my best friend that had 230 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: my roommate from college's brother, my other best friend's brother 231 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: in law. But that was true of the security guards 232 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: as well. And everybody had that. And the company was 233 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 4: a killer. It was a killer who was winning and 234 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: doing amazingly well, but located on the top five floors 235 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: of the first trade center that was hit North Tower, 236 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: and everybody the office got killed. Six hundred and fifty 237 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: eight people, my brother, Gary, my best friend, all those people. 238 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: But that was true of everybody. I lost twenty sets 239 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: of brothers. I think twenty sets of brothers. 240 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 4: So we set out to rebuild the company to take 241 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: care of the families of our friends. And you know, 242 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: we we said we would give them twenty five percent 243 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: of our. 244 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: Profits for five years. 245 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: But you know, if you think about it, what kind 246 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: of profits are they're going to be from a company 247 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: that just had everybody killed. We had two thousand people 248 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: about around the world, lost six hundred and fifteen, like 249 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: the Hub, the Hub and spoke. So but we really 250 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 4: gave away twenty five percent of our payroll. 251 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: So everybody who joined, they agreed instead of. 252 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: Instead of you getting paid two hundred thousand, you get 253 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: paid a hundred and fifty thousand, and we gave. 254 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: The families fifty grand. 255 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 4: And then in two thousand and eight, so we gave 256 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: the families one hundred and eighty million dollars six hundred 257 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: and fifty eight divided a one hundred and eighty just 258 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: sent out the money, showed them we cared about them, 259 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 4: and we were heartbroken for their losses. And then to 260 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: the end the story, so it's two thousand and eight, 261 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: like how do I go on with my life? 262 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: When I had all these new people, like they were 263 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: all new people. 264 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 4: People joined, and those new people committed twenty five percent 265 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: of their pay to these families. So we took the 266 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: company public. It's still public. It's called BGC. It was 267 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: the founder's initials. It's worth between four and five billion. 268 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: And I gave my stock to the. 269 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: To all my employees I sold at the IPO enough 270 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: to give each of them the money back. So if 271 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: that person gave fifty, they ate fifty and then the 272 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: next year they got to raise. They gave fifty five 273 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 4: and then sixty and then sixty. 274 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Five and seventy. 275 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: So that person gave three hundred thousand dollars to my 276 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: families and did it for us and they were part 277 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: of the crowd. 278 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it was amazing. 279 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: So I gave that person three hundred thousand dollars worth 280 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 4: of stock that they sold in the IPOs, so they 281 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: got all their money back and that was not the deal. 282 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: And then I gave. 283 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: Another three hundred thousand that they still own. So my 284 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: employees they owned thirty percent of the company. You know 285 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: what percentage they owned the company today? 286 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: I mean I. 287 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: Divested, but of the of that company still own thirty 288 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: who's selling that stock? 289 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: Right? Which was pretty amazing there, you know. 290 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: So what I used to do while I was working there, 291 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: when I used to sayd the best employees, I. 292 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: Wasn't kidd had the best employees. Has it been you 293 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: were you were the boss for a long you know, 294 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: for most twenty years. 295 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, how have you shifted into being an employee? 296 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: For lack of a better word. 297 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: So it's different when you work for someone else than 298 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: when you're the boss. 299 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: Let me tell you I have a boss now. Fortunately. 300 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: You know, look, if you told my wife two years 301 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: ago that I wouldn't be a Canifitzgerald, my company that 302 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: I was at for forty years and that I ran 303 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: for thirty years and owned and that, and that I'd 304 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: worked for someone else, maybe a joke. But fortunately I 305 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: worked for like the most powerful guy in the world 306 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: who is also he is the most intuitive person you've 307 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: ever met. Okay, and I don't suffer fools, right, It's 308 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: just you know, like like he'll just ask me a question, like. 309 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: You remember when we were talking. 310 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: He one day, he says, what's that flag on the 311 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: back of all those boats? 312 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: Do you ever seen like. 313 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: A cruise ship or a you know, a carrier. I've 314 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: never seen an American flag? He goes, what is that flag? 315 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: He just says it to me like. 316 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: And I talked to him at night because I sleep 317 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: five hours a night. He sleeps, by the way four. 318 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: So he calls me at twelve o'clock and he says, 319 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: you know what, I love calling you, ERICAUS. If I 320 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: call anybody else, first thing I hear is the phone 321 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: banging on the floor, and then I hear hello. 322 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 6: He goes, when I call you at twelve o'clock, you're like, 323 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 6: what's up. 324 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: So I looked up the flag and it's the number 325 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: one flag on all those boats is from Liberia. Yeah, 326 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: and the number two flag is Panama. And what they 327 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: do is they sell these flags for like nothing, and. 328 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: It's a tax scam. And the whole thing is a 329 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: tax scam. 330 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 4: And so I explained to him, we talk about the 331 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 4: tax scan but the only reason I figured out the 332 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: tax scam is he. 333 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: Asked me, what's that flag. There's gonna be something wrong 334 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 2: with that flag. He does that all the time. 335 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: He is just incredible and his intuition that he feels it. 336 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: It feels like it's right, it feels like it's wrong, 337 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 4: and he knows his gut is right. 338 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: And it's really fun. So it's basically, I sold my company. 339 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: So I told my wife someday, when I sell, I'll 340 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: have all my money and a lot of free time. 341 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 4: Now I have all my money and I have absolutely 342 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: no time, and I just work on bigger things. And 343 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: when the President says to me, goes, Howard, you know 344 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: after this you can't go back. 345 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: You can't go back. 346 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: I mean, look I did I did a deal. Japan 347 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 4: is a closed market. Okay, ninety four percent of cars 348 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 4: in Japan are Japanese. The only American cars they drive 349 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: there is they drive Cheves by the yakuza. Right, So 350 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: you're a gangster if you're driving a Chevy. So how 351 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 4: are we going to open that market? 352 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: We're not. So we said you got to pay twenty 353 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: five percent tariff. 354 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: Just just pay the tariff, and they're like, no, no, no, 355 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: it's too expensive, Kippen. So they I negotiated with them, 356 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: and they gave us five hundred and fifty million dollars 357 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 4: to invest on our joint behalf in America. This is 358 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 4: not Toyota building a plant. That's called foreign direct Investment FDI. 359 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: That's the eighteen trillion, right, that's all these factories coming 360 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: to one hundred billion dollar micrond factory one hundred and 361 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 4: sixty five billion TSMC. The Taiwan Manufacturing Semiconductor Corporation in 362 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: Arizona build like those kind of numbers, like huge factories 363 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: being built. This is literally like there are limited partner. 364 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 4: They're giving us five hundred and fifty and we're gonna 365 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: build power, We're gonna build nuclear, We're gonna build power. 366 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: We're gonna and not only are we gonna build power 367 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: for ai We're gonna build power and drive down the 368 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: cost of electricity in America so that the people don't 369 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: see is that clapping, that's nice, So that people don't 370 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: see a big data center coming in and think that's negative. Yeah, 371 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: they think I see a big data center, and I 372 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: think that's positive. So we're gonna build power. We're on shoing. 373 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: We've done another deal with Taiwan. They're gonna five hundred 374 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: They're going to invest five hundred billion dollars to reshure 375 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: semiconductor manufacturing to America. 376 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: That coupled with the Retooled Chips. 377 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: Act, which is five hundred and fifty billion, right, plus 378 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: the Korean deal, we're going to have one point two 379 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 4: trillion dollars of semiconductive manufacturing coming to America. Right, So 380 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: I'm working on five hundred billion and three hundred and 381 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: fifty billion. And then he says, we what are you 382 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: gonna do, Like go back and try to negotiate with 383 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: Morgan Stanley for like a seventy five thousand dollars commissioner. 384 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 6: You'd be like, that's too want you also forget it 385 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: you can never go back because this is just bigger 386 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 6: because all I care about, think about it, I divested 387 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 6: of everything. 388 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: All I care about is America. I just care about 389 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: doing the best for America. 390 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 4: He only cares about doing the best for America. 391 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: So I want to get into a couple of specifics 392 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: on the agenda. But before we do that, you mentioned 393 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: AI twice, and I want to ask because a lot 394 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: of Americans are concerned about AI that it could come 395 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: for their jobs. 396 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: I think a lot of them don't like the idea. 397 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: Of this omnipresent big tech showing up in their town 398 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: with a new data center. What is the facts? What's 399 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: the reality? What do you say to those types of Americans? 400 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: All right, So. 401 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: Barack Obama, Barack Cussino Obama as my president, say, got 402 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: rid of shop class in America. His objective was send 403 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 4: everybody to a liberal arts college to get a marketing degree. Okay, 404 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 4: And what happened is they went, they went to that college, 405 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 4: they got the marketing degree, they graduated with a two 406 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars loan. And how's this working for them? 407 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: What job are they going to get that's going to 408 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: cover their two hundred. 409 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: Thousand dollars alone. Where's that American dream? Right? 410 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: And what it did was it broke people's spirit because 411 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 4: when I grew up, I had shop class, and there 412 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: were kids who. 413 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: Liked to work with their hands. 414 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: And like one of my friends from high school, he 415 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: runs the largest, you know, landscaping business in where I 416 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: grew up, Right, that's who he was. It was always 417 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 4: going to be that way. So we got to get 418 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: back to that. There are just about just under seven 419 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: million able bodied Americans sitting on the sidelines not working 420 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: in our economy because the jobs aren't there that they want. Now, 421 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 4: we're going to do the world's biggest training exercise to 422 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: train them to do be robotics technicians, to do HVAC technicians. 423 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: So I went out to. 424 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: Arizona where we broke round again on I think it 425 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: was sixty billion dollar plan. I got, like at least 426 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: when I shovel aground, that's like real money, you know. 427 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: And they were opening one of. 428 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: The fabs to make semiconductors in America. When we walked 429 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: in the door, there were none in America, none, and 430 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: all made in Taiwan, you know, eighty one miles from 431 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 4: China and nine thousand miles from us. 432 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: That's a genius move. There's genius for you. 433 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 4: We need we need chips to run everything, our phones, 434 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 4: our PCs, drones, missiles, planes, and we don't make them here. 435 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: I'mb asked. So we need to make them here. 436 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: And our objective is to leave with a forty percent 437 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: market share, which would be a trillion, two hundred million 438 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 4: dollars of investment now right. 439 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: And I need some guy. 440 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: He's got, you know, like there's you know, the earring 441 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: where you get stick your pinky through the hole in 442 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: the guy's right and he's tatted up the wazoo. And 443 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: I sit down with the guy. It's just for five minutes. 444 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 4: And he was coming out of the clean room and 445 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 4: I said, what's your job? 446 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: He said, I played tetris all day. I said, really, 447 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: what do you do? He goes, No, no, he goes, 448 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: I'm a pipefitter. 449 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 4: He goes, and I've got this much space to do this, 450 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: and I have to get this through, this and this through. 451 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: He goes, I got the greatest job. 452 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: And how much you make? He goes. 453 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: Bucket a quarter? He goes, I started at seventy five minute, 454 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: bucket a quarter. I go where can you get through? 455 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 4: He goes like two hundred. It's like pretty like and 456 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 4: he loved his job, right, And that's an HVAC technician. 457 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 2: He's not putting air conditioning in your house. 458 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 4: Okay, this is doing the highest tech clean room. 459 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: Right. 460 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 4: They need to cool that equipment, and water matters and 461 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: HVAC matters, right, and all these jobs robotics technicians, they matter, right, 462 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: And these jobs are coming. And these jobs start at 463 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: seventy five eighty grand and go up from there. 464 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: And we're going to get. 465 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 4: Those people off the couch into the workforce and they're 466 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: going to be happy, and it's going to be the 467 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: new world of production. 468 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 2: Right. 469 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 4: This is advanced manufacturing in America. See, we couldn't do 470 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 4: this ten years ago. He couldn't bring manufacturing here because 471 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: you know, the iPhone's got You know, they have one 472 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: factory in China where there's two hundred nineteen year olds working. 473 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: He said, what nineteen year olds? 474 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: Oh, their ice, it is really good and they screw 475 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 4: in this little screwed thing. 476 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: Right. 477 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: But so we can't do that, right, We just don't 478 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: have the million people who are going to work in 479 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: that kind of factory. But you know, that's going to 480 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 4: be automated. You know, that's gonna be robotics. And you 481 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: know I need twenty five thousand people to work in 482 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: that factory. Sure, I don't need two hundred thousand. I 483 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: need twenty five thousand. But those twenty five thousand, that's 484 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: an American job. So the world is coming to us. 485 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: And the President understands the world is coming to us, 486 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: and he's built the world's biggest catchers met. 487 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: To bring it here. 488 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 4: And that's eighteen trillion, right, that's that's you know. I 489 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: mean you got open Aiye, you got Meda, you got Google, 490 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: They've each Apple, they've each aroound six hundred billion dollars 491 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: or more. That's twenty a half trillion on the first 492 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: four numbers I just laid out. Some people is ah, 493 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: he's not going to do that much, Oh boloney. The 494 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: scale of what we are building in America is awesome. 495 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: The growth is going to be awesome, The jobs are 496 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 4: going to be awesome. And the separation of American growth 497 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: from the rest of the world. 498 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: Right I go around the world that I say. 499 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 4: Just watch us copy copy us, don't do it the 500 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: old way, don't find our tech companies, don't regulate our 501 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 4: tech companies. 502 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: Embrace them, show them love and affection, and you know 503 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: what you'll get in return. 504 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 4: You'll get a fifty billion dollar investment instead of five. 505 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 5: How comprehensive can our reassuring be. You've talked a lot 506 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 5: about high tech reaturing, but I tried to buy a 507 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: music stand for my daughter and they all come from China. 508 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: We don't. We used to be amazing. 509 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 5: Furniture manufacturers in this country. We've lost a lot of things, 510 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 5: not just tech. Do you think we can bring some 511 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 5: of that back? 512 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: Maybe? Yeh. 513 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 5: As you said, there's probably a lot of high tech 514 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 5: ways to do these things. So how broad do you 515 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 5: see the restoring agenda? 516 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: So the opportunity is that manufacturing is being automated, and 517 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 4: automated manufacturing is perfect for America. 518 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: Right. 519 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: We don't have a billion people, right, so we're going 520 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: to think we need to be a higher tech kind 521 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: of thought so that we can work the way. 522 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: This is working. So this is coming to us. 523 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: I think there are some things that should be made overseas. Sandals, 524 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 4: cheap T shirts. We're cool with that. Well, let's be clear, 525 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 4: we're cool with that being made overseas. 526 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: Okay, but you know. 527 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 4: You can do enormous amount of manufacturing domestically once you 528 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: think about what is possible now with computer based and 529 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: advance based robotics manufacturing. 530 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: And people say, oh, robots, the humanoid robots that. 531 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 4: Will probably work in your house someday, that's a different thing. 532 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 2: And I'm talking. I'm talking about Close your eyes and 533 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: just think of a. 534 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: Modern auto plant, you know, with the arm that goes 535 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 4: out and drills like that. 536 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: That's that's the kind of. 537 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 4: Robotics, right, it's robotic arms doing stuff. The concept of 538 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: robots and humanoid robots. We're not gonna let Chinese humanoid 539 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: robots into this country. It's just like we're not gonna 540 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: let Chinese electric vehicles into this country. You got to 541 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: realize if you take a Chinese battery in powered car 542 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 4: and they can just turn it off, right, they all 543 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 4: have like a called daddy button, right, and a call daddy. 544 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: Button needs to turn it off. 545 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 4: So if you're buying like solar padls and you know 546 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: we have a conflict with China, and they just turn 547 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: off your solar field and you don't have power, that sucks. 548 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: So you know, people need to think through if you 549 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: could potentially be adversarial, we need to make our pharmaceuticals. 550 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: Here like before he took this job. If you in my. 551 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: Medicine cabinet, I don't think I had a brand in 552 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: pharmaceutical right because everybody says, okay, this is the generic 553 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: version of this, and the generic version of that. You know, 554 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: all those generic versions are all made in China. You know, 555 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: if we if we were adversarial, what makes you think 556 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: you're getting them? 557 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: Number one? And if you got them, what makes you think. 558 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: During your adversarial moment, you're willing to take this bill? 559 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: Here? 560 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: You go, you say no thanks, So we need to 561 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: make that here, and we need to That means you 562 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: have to go down all the ingredients to make sure 563 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: each and every ingredient is made here. 564 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: And so this is my job. My job is I go. 565 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: Down to every line item and say, okay, where are 566 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: we with this? 567 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: Where are we with this? Where are we with this? 568 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: Where are we on every critical mineral. 569 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: I'm back in eleventh grade chemistry class, just where I 570 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 4: wanted to be. I get the periodic table out, I 571 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: got the heavies and the lights like I didn't want 572 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: to do that, I really I didn't want to do 573 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 4: that I took chemistry in college because all my friends 574 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: wanted to be pre med. And like, after the first semester, 575 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, what the hell am I doing? I can't 576 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: stand this stuff. So I was hoping I wouldn't have 577 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: to do the elements again, But here I am that doing, 578 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: you know, yettrium. But the answer is, these are key 579 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 4: ingredients and we cannot rely on an adversary to two 580 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: key ingredients. And we have to have a nice mix 581 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: of us and our allies doing it. But it can't 582 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: be adversaries because the adversaries weaponize it. 583 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: And they did already, Like you heard. 584 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: About this concept magnets, right, They put magnets in cars 585 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: and it just the average cost of a magnet in 586 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: a car is twenty bucks twenty They sell it by 587 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: the pound. It's a fifty five bucks a pound. This 588 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: isn't like high tech. This is fifty five bucks a pound, 589 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: twenty bucks in a car. But it's like me giving 590 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: you a really cool bookcase for Christmas, and I don't 591 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 4: give you the Allen wrench. 592 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: It's cost a dollar to put it together. 593 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: Right, So they said, well, I'm not sending you the magnets, 594 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 4: and they make. 595 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: Them all all. 596 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 4: It's like not sending you the key to the car. 597 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: You can't run the car. 598 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: So I thought that was a great advantage because woke 599 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 4: us up and said you got to fix that. And 600 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: this administration is not I'm doing everything we can for 601 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: these four years, and the whole administration is working together 602 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: to do everything it can over these four years to 603 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: get all those choke points off of our neck. 604 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: So, speaking of waking up, one thing, that was a 605 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: huge reset with your policy and the presidents as well 606 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: as the Treasury Secretary Scott Essence totally rethinking how we 607 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: think of trade deficits. Is I was told my whole 608 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: life trade deficits don't matter. It's totally fine. And you 609 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: guys have reset. That's not only to care, but you 610 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: have other countries paying down their tearoff by trying to 611 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: ameliorate that situation. Talk us about that mindset and maybe 612 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: what are the next big trade deals ahead. 613 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty five, the United States of America, all our 614 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: companies take. 615 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: The whole thing. 616 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 4: We own more of the rest of the world than 617 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 4: they own of us, about one hundred and. 618 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: Fifty billion count. 619 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: Stocks, debt, everything, companies owning shares, You name it, we 620 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 4: count it, we own more. 621 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: Of them nineteen eighty five. 622 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: Then we start running these massive trade deficits. Now, what 623 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: I learned in college, like sophomore year, was I buy 624 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: your cars with my printed dollars, I buy your wine 625 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 4: with my printed dollars, and I keep buying all your 626 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: good stuff with my make belief dollars. 627 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: And eventually you say, get lost, right, and you devalue 628 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: my dollar. 629 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't work anymore than they buy our stuff. And 630 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: that's how the world works. There's floating currents, and it's 631 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 4: all fine. The problem is we're too damn smart. We 632 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: invent the light bulb, we invest the transistor, we invent 633 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 4: the GPU, We keep inventing stuff. 634 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: So instead of devaluing the. 635 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: Dollar, you know what they do, They buy us out 636 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 4: from under us. So where are we is we enter 637 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, the rest of the world owns twenty 638 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: six trillion more of us than we own of them. 639 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: That is a rough forty years. It's a rough forty years. 640 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: So you know what the President says to me, He goes, 641 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: you want to. 642 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: Be mean to them, like we're doing a trade. 643 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 4: Deal, Like you know, we're talking to the Middle East, 644 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 4: countries and say you want to be tough. 645 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, what do you think I should say? 646 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: So, say you're not allowed to invest in America. 647 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 6: Because they say, oh, we're going to invest, you know, 648 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 6: five hundred billion in America. Say nah, we don't want it. 649 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 6: They go no, no, no, We like where what's your alternative? 650 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: Right? 651 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 4: Where else are you going to put your money? It's 652 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: as great as our place? Answer is nowhere. So it's 653 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 4: the greatest economy. We need to balance that, and that's 654 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 4: what's happening. We need to reassert who we are and 655 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: what we are in the world and stop letting everybody 656 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 4: take advantage of us. Everybody buy us, everybody own us. 657 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 4: The way I say it is, there's two islands. One 658 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: is where all the brilliant people live and they invent everything. 659 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 4: The other one is where everybody produces everything the geniuses invent. 660 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: Then the geniuses buy it from the guy who makes it, 661 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 4: and the guys who make it use the money to 662 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 4: buy the other island, and sooner or later the geniuses 663 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: are the great engineer who worked for them. Right thin, 664 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 4: it just gets bought out from Undia. So the president 665 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 4: understands this and he is on it and he talked 666 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 4: about this in the eighties and nobody ever did. And 667 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 4: he's the only one who talked about it right. And 668 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,959 Speaker 4: by the way, if you thought I knew the first 669 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 4: thing about tariff before I worked for him, that would 670 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 4: be false. 671 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: I thought when I learned this sophomore in college was 672 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. It sounded fine to me, and he 673 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 2: showed me otherwise. 674 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: And then like the boat, then I did the most reading. 675 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: The most research, the most things. 676 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 4: And then I tell him the statistic of nineteen eighty 677 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 4: five and twenty twenty five and all these sort of things. 678 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 5: And I kindom has said, prickted that we were going 679 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 5: we were headed for a trade war. You were going 680 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 5: to show up at these meetings and you know they 681 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 5: were going to, I don't know, throw water in your 682 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 5: face and raise their tariffs to infinity. 683 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: That didn't happen. 684 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 5: Instead, we got I don't want to call it a 685 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 5: trade surrender. That might be insulting to our trading partners, 686 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: but we got them to agree that this imbalance could 687 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 5: no longer continue. When you go to these meetings, were 688 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 5: you surprised? And why do you think the economists got 689 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 5: it so wrong? Why do you think our trading partners said, yeah, 690 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 5: you guys are right, We've got to rebalance this. 691 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: We are the consumer of the world, greatest consumption economy 692 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 4: in the world. You can't live without us because we 693 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 4: buy your stuff. 694 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: If you make the stuff, we buy the stuff if 695 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: the client doesn't buy it. So you all understand if 696 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 2: you have. 697 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: One unbelievable, huge, vital and important client, like one that's 698 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 4: heads and shoulders above everybody else, and there you get 699 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 4: a little mad at you. That's that's not good. That's 700 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 4: that good. So when the president would send them a 701 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 4: letter right and saying I'm pissed at you, the shutters 702 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: in those countries are being serious because these were. 703 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: The body of all their stuff. 704 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 4: If we close their arms, like think of the Canadian 705 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 4: guy he goes to China. China has a one point 706 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,479 Speaker 4: two trillion dollar surplus going that way. 707 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: You think they're gonna let Canada sell them anything. Of 708 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: course not. 709 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: They're an outward and they all need what. They all 710 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 4: need us to buy their stuff. They all need the 711 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 4: greatest economy in the world to buy their stuff. 712 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: So we knew, because we're. 713 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: The greatest customer of the world, that no one's. 714 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: Gonna fight with us. 715 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 4: They'll have a little tussle, a little kerf fluffele I 716 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 4: like to call it, right, But in the end it's 717 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 4: gonna work out fine, because in the end, Canada sells 718 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 4: US three hundred billion dollars worth of stuff as opposed 719 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 4: to nobody else or nobody else, or Europe or nobody else, 720 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 4: or China or nobody else. And the president he was 721 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 4: born with the knowledge of leverage. He probably cried, made 722 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 4: his parents give him a cook eat, you know, beforehand, 723 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 4: because he just he has that intuition. He understands the 724 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 4: position of America and plays the cards brilliantly. And it's 725 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 4: it's it's so much fun for me to work for him, 726 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 4: because it's I get to execute and extend his ideas. 727 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 2: You know. 728 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 4: I come up with, we'll never open Japan, so what 729 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 4: can we do? Okay, let's get him to pay. How 730 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 4: are we going to get him to pay? They'll lend 731 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 4: us money. I'm not borring, he says, I'm not borring 732 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 4: from Japan. 733 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 2: What the heck would we borrow? Right? 734 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 4: And then we go through it until we end up 735 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 4: with where we are and these deals, and it's the 736 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 4: most fun. 737 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: So there's a few more gend items. 738 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: I want to quick take on first of all, the 739 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 3: most aver nation's drug pricing seems to be revolutionarything. Not 740 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: getting a ton of press from our friends in the 741 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 3: fake news. Can you talk about this? 742 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: Sure? 743 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 4: So the combination of tariffs and we are their biggest customer. 744 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: So think about we generally speaking for uh, you know, 745 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 4: for name brand drugs, zempic Manjarro like that. 746 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 2: That job that shot. 747 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 4: They we produce seventy five percent of their revenues and 748 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 4: one hundred percent of their profits. 749 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 2: Right because we are we are not big payer like 750 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: you said, we pay a thousand dollars. Everyone else pays 751 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bucks, so they may call them 752 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: money from us. 753 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 4: So when we say we're unhappy, the drug companies have 754 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 4: to listen. No matter how bad that is, they have 755 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 4: to listen. So the President said, resure it, make it 756 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 4: here and take a certain class of drugs and give 757 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 4: us MFN right, and then you can while you're building 758 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 4: and restoring here, I won't charge you a massive taft. 759 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 4: And that combination of me and Bobby Kennedy with the 760 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 4: you know, the looming shadow of the president, and then 761 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: the economy of the United States, American standing behind him, 762 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 4: got done the greatest set of deals where we probably 763 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 4: saved one hundred billion dollars a year for the American 764 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 4: Medicaid medicare system, right, and we're going to get cheaper 765 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 4: drugs to America and they're going to be made here 766 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 4: as well. So it's the combination of I expect we're 767 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 4: going to have four hundred billion dollars of on shoring 768 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 4: of pharmaceuticals. We're going to onshore, We're going to figure 769 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 4: out how to onshore generics as well. 770 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: And I mean, these are just huge numbers. 771 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 4: One point two trillion for semiconductors, four hundred billion for pharmaceuticals, 772 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: and these come they start at the Commerce Department, and 773 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 4: maybe no one who had this job ever understood it, 774 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 4: but nobody who had this job really understood it in 775 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 4: a way that could work with the President who came 776 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 4: back with fire, right, and we have four years to get. 777 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 2: This done, and let me tell you, he's going to 778 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 2: get it done. 779 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 3: So you're planning basically a war on waste and abuse 780 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: within the government, starting at Commerce, but I think elsewhere, 781 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: I think it's sort of administration whole government. 782 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: Well, we're all doing it, and I want to hear 783 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: a bit about that. And also in. 784 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: That context, I think that there is the census is 785 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 3: in your purview, and I heard you've got some evolutionary 786 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: ideas for the census that's coming up. They could evolve 787 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 3: perhaps lower and federal employment for that. 788 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 2: Well, the first thing was, you know the census. 789 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 4: The job of the census is to go to everybody's 790 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 4: house and count everybody. 791 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 2: Three hundred and forty million people. 792 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 4: Right, And so the census, we'd hire five hundred thousand people, 793 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 4: would train them, rent them cars and gas, and they'd 794 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 4: go out and try to find people. Which department of 795 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 4: the United States of America already has five hundred thousand people, 796 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 4: already has cars and goes to everybody's house every day. 797 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: Oh, the post Office. So here's the genius move. 798 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 4: We are hiring the post Office to do the census. 799 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 4: I don't have to hire five hundred thousand people. I 800 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 4: don't have to teach them where everybody lives, and they 801 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 4: know where everybody lives. So what that does, by the way, 802 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 4: So what happens is my department has the money, so 803 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to pay the post Office to do it. 804 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 2: The Post Office is. 805 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 6: Going to give the postman, you know, thirty bucks when 806 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 6: he gets out of the car and. 807 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,280 Speaker 2: Does this, and fifty bucks if they do that. 808 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 4: That kind of thing, and the post office is going 809 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 4: to go from being a huge loser to break even. 810 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: Right. And we're doing a test. 811 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 4: On April first of this year for five hundred thousand people. 812 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 5: And everybody knows their local postman, so they're going to 813 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 5: answer the door a trust them. 814 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 4: Imagine someone knocks in the door, We're like, whatever, you're closed, 815 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 4: Like you opening the door these days? Nah, No, we 816 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 4: don't know who this person is. But when the postman 817 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 4: comes up, you're like, I get it. You know, he 818 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 4: wants to know how many people live here. Already knows 819 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 4: he just. 820 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 6: I'm just confirming you and your wife and your four 821 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 6: kids still live here. 822 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: Right, check Godebailee, right. I mean, man, he could do 823 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 4: it in thirty seven. He knows the answer. Like we 824 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 4: could do the census on. 825 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: Monday, we could do it again on Tuesday. 826 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 4: We can trimble check it on Wednesday. If I tell 827 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 4: them to do it on Thursday, they tell me to 828 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 4: f off, right, So I mean think about it. I mean, 829 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 4: these are unique ideas, but they're just thinking about it 830 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 4: the right way. And if you think about this government 831 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 4: the right way. 832 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 2: What do I think? 833 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 4: I think the post Office should own the last mile. 834 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: We should go to everybody's house every day. 835 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 4: But what we shouldn't do is after we collect a package, 836 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 4: we shouldn't compete with FedEx and Amazon to try to 837 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 4: process it and ship it to Tennessee where it goes. Right, 838 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 4: we should do a trade with them. You guys do 839 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 4: the ship it to Tennessee stuff, and we'll do the 840 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 4: delivery to the door. And then you have one delivery 841 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 4: to the door for fed X. Not for big packages 842 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 4: they have to use their truck, but for stuff that 843 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 4: that postmaking cover. Why don't we do your stuff? You 844 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 4: do yours. And by the way, that would save US 845 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 4: five billion dollars a year, five billion a year. 846 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: So everything I. 847 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 4: Do, I have five billion a year five billion. 848 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: There. 849 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 4: You know, I did this Intel deal where we were 850 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 4: giving them ten billion dollars and I canceled the give 851 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 4: them ten billion, and instead for that same ten billion, 852 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 4: we got ten percent equity in the company and now 853 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 4: it's worth thirty billion. 854 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: You know, So like I made money. It's kind of fun. 855 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: Mister Secretary we're out of time. 856 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 5: So I just want to close with asking you to 857 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 5: envision the American economy five years from now, ten years 858 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 5: from now. 859 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: Where are you bringing us? 860 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 5: What do you think we look like in the long run. 861 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 4: In the long run, we solve our choke points. We 862 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 4: have domestic manufacturing for a whole host of things that 863 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 4: we should right. We've made deals with our allies for 864 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 4: low tariffs for what we should not right, and we 865 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 4: figure out what's best. We have mining deals with everyone 866 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 4: in the world, but we you know, we enrich uranium 867 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 4: in America. 868 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 2: And we are the leading expert. 869 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 4: Like when I've done trade deals, I always sell at 870 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 4: the end fifty Boeing planes. 871 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at every time, I'm like, come on, buy 872 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 2: blowing planes. Okay, we'll buy blowing planes. 873 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 4: So the President got salesman of the universe from Boeing 874 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 4: because these old a thousand planes. 875 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 2: Right. 876 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 4: But so what I want to do is I want 877 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 4: the person who has my job to sell nuclear as well. 878 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 4: That we should be the creator of nuclear, that we 879 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 4: export nuclear, we export, Boeing planes, we export We become 880 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 4: a manufacturing powerhouse. Because technology can live here. We have 881 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 4: to build the power which we will do. We will 882 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: have AI that will empower our employees. But the economy 883 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 4: that is coming is going to work much better for 884 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 4: America than it's ever going to work for our adversaries, 885 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 4: much better. 886 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: Because this is our kind of economy. 887 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 4: Right, It's not a job screwing stuff in, it's a 888 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 4: job fixing robots. That's a different kind of mentality. 889 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 2: Right. 890 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 4: We let our auto manufacturing go to Canada and Mexico, 891 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 4: to Korea and Japan and to Germany. 892 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 2: Right. We used to produce. 893 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 4: Ninety percent of our cars domestically, then seventy five percent 894 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 4: of our cars domestically. When I walked in it took 895 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 4: this job. We were down to fifty percent domestic manufacturer cars. 896 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 4: Our cars should be made here. If Mercedes wants to 897 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 4: make a car and sell it here, make it here 898 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,959 Speaker 4: and sell it to us and export it from here. 899 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 2: That model is coming. 900 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 4: I think America's economy will be twice the size, and 901 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 4: the separation between us and the rest of the world 902 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 4: will be gargantuan. Because we are the smartest, most entrepreneurial, 903 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 4: most innovative people. 904 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 2: It's who we are when we're born. 905 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 4: It's the way we go to school, it's the way 906 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 4: our parents teach us. We are born with that American 907 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 4: dream right that we could be that guy. We could 908 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 4: be the president, we could be the tech bro, we 909 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 4: could be this. We all feel it, our children feel it, 910 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 4: we drive it into our children. 911 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: You could be anything. 912 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 4: No other economy does it that way. And so I 913 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 4: think the President has launched the plane, launched us into 914 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 4: where we're going. And I think if we stick with 915 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 4: these policies in this kind of thinking, the US is 916 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 4: in such a great position. I'm just proud to be 917 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 4: associated with Donald Trump in this administration. 918 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 2: Thank you, mister Secretary. This all the time we had. 919 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 3: I wish we had more, but hopefully we could do 920 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 3: this again one day. 921 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: Thanks, I'd fun. That was really great. I think last