1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the Praying Christian Women Podcast. I 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: am Alana here with Jamie. How are you. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 3: I'm doing great? 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: How about you? Good? 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: We are here with part two. So a couple of 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: weeks ago we talked about blocks that keep Christian women 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: from spending more regular Bible time. Then we all feel 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: like we should be spending or I'll say at least 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: eighty percent of us feel like we should be spending. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: Well, we'll guess. 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: That there's a portion of you listening who have a 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: system and feel good about it and are doing it 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: just fine. But for everybody else that I am convinced 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: as a majority and I know includes you and me, 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: it is hard to not feel guilty about the lack 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: of Bible study time we spend. And it's just practically 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: hard to do all the things like finding the time, 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm finding the focus, finding the right routine. Where do 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: you start? So in part one we talked about some 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: of the mental or spiritual blocks that can keep Bible 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: City from becoming a more regular part of our spiritual life. 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: And today we are both coming to you with different 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: tips for how to incorporate more Bible time into. 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: Your daily schedule. So I'm really excited we get to 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: jump into this. Me too. 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: I love this topic. I think it's going to be 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: really good. 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: We can start off with our verse of the day, 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: which is Jeremiah, chapter fifteen, Verse sixteen. When your words came, 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: I ate them. They were my joy and my heart's delight, 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: for I bear your name, Lord, God Almighty. And I 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: love this because I feel like this idea of God's 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: word being our joy and our heart's delight, and not 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: just reading them as a thing to check off our list, 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: but consuming them and incorporating them because God's word is living, inactive, 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: and I think more than just changing to fit our 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: circumstances or the Holy Spirit translating them to fit our circumstances, 39 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: the word of God, like when we take it in, 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: I really believe that something happens. You know, it's food, literally, 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: I think for our soul. We take it in and 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: it's consumed and it's processed, and it's becomes part of 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: us in a way that just you know, that is 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 4: more than just reading by looking at words or you know, 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: consuming content. 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think that the idea of food is 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: really applicable as well in terms of it's not like 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: I come to your house and you say, hey, can 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: I fix you something to eat? And I say, oh, no, thanks, 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: I ate last week. Right Like, just because you ate 51 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: last week or yesterday or this morning doesn't mean that 52 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: you still need to eat something later. 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: And that can be a big block. 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: And I know we about that when you know, well, 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: I basically know the bulk of what the Bible teaches, 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: or I know the gist of it, which is what's important, 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: and that completely misses a pack That's like saying, well, 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: you know, I ate a meal when I was in 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: third grade, so why do I need to eat anymore? Yeah? 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, And we went through a lot of the reasons 61 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: that kind of keep us from the Bible. But there 62 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: are just so many different ways that I think people 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: don't realize to incorporate scripture into their lives that I'm 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: so glad we're doing this because I just think pointing 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: out a few opens the floodgates for more ideas for 66 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: our listeners, because it's done that for me when I start, 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: you know, when we started talking about this and working 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: through some of the ways, I think, once you start 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: thinking outside the box, it's going to just open up 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: so many more creative and just really effective ways of 71 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: incorporating Scripture into your life that you might not have 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: thought of. 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: I agree. 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: My brain's been going over some of the blocks we 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: talked about and identifying even more of them or coming 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: up with solutions to some of my specific Bible blocks, 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: and so I love that. I want to go back 78 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: to your Bible versus about food for ar just for fun. 79 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: I have been having like the strongest food craving. So 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: I want to know if you had like a complete 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: cheat day where you could eat anything and it wouldn't 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: impact your health or how you felt, what would you 83 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: fill that day with? 84 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Oh wow, like a whole bunch of. 85 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: Things or anything you want. 86 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you mine, because like my mouth was just watering. 87 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: So I have been off of multiple things for almost 88 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: a whole year now. So I'm totally off dairy and 89 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: red meat. Those are my two like completely cut out. 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm also off a caffeine almost exclusively, and I started 91 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: to feel so much better with some of my joint 92 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: stuff and inflammation stuff. I didn't miss it, but now 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: maybe it's a sign that I'm just getting more used 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: to feeling better because I'm getting like, oh that sounds 95 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: so good. So I had this whole thing in my head. 96 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: It started with a dream about creamy seafood lasagna and 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 2: I just could didn't get that out of my head. 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: So I came up with an entire my if I 99 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: had a complete sheet day where I could eat whatever 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: I wanted and I wouldn't like get the inflammation that 101 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: I know results from it. My breakfast is gonna be 102 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: biscuits and gravy. That's like my just favorite greasy diner breakfast. 103 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: And for lunch, oh, we just had Saint Patrick's Day 104 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: and the family had corned beef and I don't really 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: care a ton, Like cutting out red meat wasn't a 106 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: big deal, but I do like some corn beef, So 107 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: corn beef would. 108 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Be my lunch. 109 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: And for dinner it would be like that creamy pasta 110 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: previa there with lots of seafood and stuff like that, 111 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: with a cheesecake for dessert. 112 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: That is my like dream meal day. Do you have something? 113 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: I have so many things going through my head right now, 114 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: I would say, so. I've been trying to stay off 115 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 4: of sugar a lot, you know, like like not totally 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: cut it out, but definitely staying away from it when 117 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: I can. So I would say, like a latte. I've 118 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: been drinking either lattes or black coffee with no sugar 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: at all, nothing, no sweetener, just like cinnamon powder. So 120 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 4: I do love I've kind of gotten away from liking 121 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: super sweet lattes, but. 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: A little bit of a nilla or hazel nut. 123 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 4: So I would say like a sweetish, not sweetish, sweetish, sweetish, a. 124 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Lott bit sweet latte, And like kiche I love Kishe, 125 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: like like a. 126 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 4: Qishe with a whole bunch of like vegetables, and like 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 4: maybe some ham or bacon for breakfast, and a side 128 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: of something sweet, like a coffee cake. There's this rast 129 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: Ferry Creek cheese coffee cake that's really sweet and I 130 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: haven't made it or had it in a long time, 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: but that I would love that. And then for like 132 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: a dinner type dish, the pasta, either like a super 133 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: creamy alfredo pasta or like a meat sauce. I do 134 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: love the like the red meat sauce pasta just sounds 135 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: really good too, like either a lasagna or a you know, 136 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: like a meat sauce with a bunch of cheese on it. 137 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: Those are my Those are my favorites, and I do 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: love desserts, so I'm trying to think of like Tira 139 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: me Sue is one of my favorites, and also cheesecake 140 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: came to mind, so we're kind of on the same wavelength. 141 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: We really are. 142 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: Got the same So you know, I think that, yeah, 143 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: that was literally just a frivolous, just for fun question. 144 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: But if people are thinking like I could hear in 145 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: your voice and I could feel in my body like 146 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: this sounds so good, right, And I think a beautiful prayer, 147 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: So what I don't want to be is like and 148 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: this is just how you should feel about the Bible, right, 149 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: and you know, come down heavy handed, But I think 150 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: a beautiful prayer would be like, God, help me to 151 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: crave your word in this way. I love going through 152 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: Psalone nineteen, and you don't need to read it all 153 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: in a chunk. And I think if you do read 154 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: it all in a chunk, it's just to rush you. 155 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: It's like a I mean, it literally is a poem, 156 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: and poems aren't necessarily made to just read as fast 157 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: as you can to say you did it. And just 158 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: this idea of longing for God's word, loving God's word 159 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: craving God's word. It's sweetness to my soul. If you 160 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: don't feel that way, if you don't feel about the 161 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: Bible the way that Jamie and I feel about cheesecake, A, 162 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: that's okay, that's normal, but be a great prayer. 163 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Could be God, give me that longing for your word. 164 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 165 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 4: And it's kind of the sort of thing where you 166 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: have to put in the discipline to consume enough of 167 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: God's word. I think this is my personal experience. I 168 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: won't speak for everyone, but I have to put the 169 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: time and discipline into making scripture a priority for the 170 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: sake of the discipline of it, to get into a 171 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: rhythm of experiencing God in his word in a way 172 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: that gives me the reward feeling kind of And I 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 4: just hate to tread on this because like you don't 174 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: want to only be in it for the feeling that 175 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 4: you get from it, obviously, but if the goal, which 176 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: the goal for me, is to have this like they're 177 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: my joy, the words of God are my joy and 178 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: my heart's delight, I do sometimes have to put the 179 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: work in to consume enough of it to understand it 180 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: and be taught by the Holy Spirit and establish that 181 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 4: relationship that is the reward. 182 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: So I'm one hundred percent behind what you just said. 184 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: I think about it kind of like a runner's high. 185 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: It's not like and I am not a runner, but 186 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: I know enough runners know about this, but. 187 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: We understand what it might be like to be a runner. 188 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: And not a runner. 189 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: But once I wrote a novel about a person who 190 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: had to run once in her life. 191 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: But you know, it's not like every. 192 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: Single time you run, you put your foot on the 193 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: pavement and you get this euphoria, and you have that 194 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: euphoria the entire time you're running. It doesn't happen every time, 195 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: and it doesn't happen the first time. 196 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: There needs to be discipline to get to that point. 197 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: So I am one hundred percent behind you, and I 198 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: really feel like we need to get over this block 199 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: of saying, well, we shouldn't want to read our Bible 200 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: for what we get out of it, because why else 201 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: would we read our Bible? Wise, to me, I'll do 202 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: the same thing you did. This is just how I 203 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: see it. And to me, if reading the Bible because 204 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: it brings me so much joy, or it brings me euphoria. 205 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: Or it makes me so inspired. 206 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: If those are selfish reasons to read the Bible, then 207 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: my only other reason is because God's going to be 208 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: mad at me if I don't well. 209 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 4: John Piper in his book Desiring God, he has this 210 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: term that he coined I think he coined it Christian hedonism, 211 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 4: and the idea is that when we seek God for 212 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: the reward of the relationship with Him, that's a good thing, 213 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: and it's not. I think there's a fine line between 214 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: that and seeking out experiences or seeking out like miraculous 215 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: signs and wonders as the only thing that you want, 216 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: which I have fallen into the trap of I guess 217 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 4: oneh to connect with God for the purpose of I 218 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: want to see what happens next, like I want to 219 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: see him do something, and then coming away disappointed when 220 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 4: I don't have the same mountaintop experience or the same 221 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: miracle or the same perceived I don't want to even 222 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 4: call it a manifestation of God, but whatever. When I'm 223 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: seeking like a performance by God or something, there's something 224 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: that I know in myself that that is not right 225 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: about that mentality. But it's such a fine line between 226 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: I want to see what God can do, I want 227 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: to live with anxious expectation, and I want to meet 228 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: with him every day because I know that he's amazing 229 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: and I want to I want to celebrate that. So 230 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: there's and I don't know if I can articulate in 231 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: myself when I know I've crossed the line into what 232 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: isn't good and what's seeking the wrong thing, But I 233 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: know it's there. So I just would encourage everyone find 234 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: your own line, but don't be afraid of I think 235 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: you made a good point. It can be a block 236 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: to say I don't want to read my Bible for 237 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: the good feeling. Same with worshiping God through music. You know, 238 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 4: some people say, oh, you shouldn't worship God for the 239 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: experience in song, like or the feelings, and like you said, like, 240 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: well what's wrong with that to a certain point. 241 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we both came with just what we hope 242 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: are going to be really practical tips and tricks for 243 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: women like us who just want very usable, implementable ideas 244 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: for making scripture reading a more regular part of your day. 245 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: But before we jump into that, could you middle us up? 246 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to say open us up. Can you 247 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: middle us up? 248 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: In a word of prayer? 249 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: I can God, we just thank you for your word. 250 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: We thank you for the miracle of having this book 251 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: that is full of instruction and wisdom and basically this 252 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: living tool that can speak to us, that can feed us, 253 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: that connects us to you, that reveals your character and 254 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: who you are to us, and it teaches us how 255 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: to live. And we take it for granted. I take 256 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: it for granted every single day. And I just pray 257 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: that this week, this today, that this would be an 258 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: opportunity for us to just kind of take a step 259 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: back and look at your word in a new light, 260 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: to look at it as if we didn't even know 261 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: what it was, so that we can appreciate the miracle 262 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: that it is. Thank you for meeting us through your word. 263 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: And we just pray that today you would help us 264 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: to approach this topic with grace, for ourselves, with excitement, 265 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: and for all of us. I know every single one 266 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: of us can pray this prayer. Lord, Help us to 267 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: crave your word. I know none of us do that 268 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: all the time. Help us to crave your word, to 269 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: seek after it, to long for it like we long 270 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: for some of the things on earth, like food and things, 271 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: and the pleasures of this world, let your word be 272 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: at the top of our list of things that we 273 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: just hunger and thirst after in Jesus name. 274 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: Amen, Well, I will go ahead and start with the 275 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: first one on my list that I came up with. 276 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: And for people who want to become more regular with 277 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: your Bible reading, one really effective hack is habit stacking. 278 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: And so this is where you pair your Bible reading 279 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: to something that you already do very regularly. 280 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: So the two. 281 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: Times that this has worked really good right for me 282 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: is once our church was doing an entire read through 283 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: the Bible in a year together, like we were all 284 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: trying to be at the same spot, following the same plan. 285 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: And this was maybe ten ish years ago where Facebook 286 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: was still like a really fun place to. 287 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: Be and lots of community there. 288 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: And I made a discipline that I would not get 289 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: on to Facebook until I had completed my Bible reading 290 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: for the day. And so I had an incentive because 291 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: at that point, like so many of us, my go 292 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: to was to reach I didn't have it on my 293 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: phone yet. This was still pre smartphones even but I 294 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: would reach for the iPad or tablet or whatever I 295 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: got on Facebook with. And that was one of the 296 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: first things I would do in the day. And so 297 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: by telling myself, well, you can't do this thing that 298 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: you already have a small bit of an addictionary compulsion 299 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: to do until you've done your Bible reading. That means 300 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't want to wait until like right before 301 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: bed to do my Bible reading. 302 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to get it done right away. 303 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 2: Or another form of habit stacking is pairing it with 304 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: something that you do, especially every morning, like you know, 305 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: your first cup of coffee for people who have a 306 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: morning drinking ritual, just pair that with your Bible reading. 307 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: So either find the thing that you always want to 308 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: do and do it simultaneously, like drinking your first cup 309 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: of coffee, or find the thing that you love to 310 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: do and tell yourself you're not going to do that 311 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: thing until you've done your Bible reading. And then yes, 312 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: you are using something else as a reward for reading 313 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 2: the Bible, which I can hear some people being like, well, 314 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: you should want to read the Bible for the sake 315 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: of reading the Bible, And my thought is, yes, technically 316 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: that's true, but have the humility to acknowledge that that 317 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: doesn't work for you. Right If if that's the case, 318 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 2: then you don't need this habit stacking hack, and then 319 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: you don't need to worry about it at all. If 320 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: the habit stacking hack works for you, don't feel guilty 321 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: about it. Have the humility to recognize, Okay, I don't 322 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: have the discipline to open up my Bible first sitting 323 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: of the day unless I pair it with my cup 324 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: of coffee, and instead of saying I must be such 325 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: a selfish, terrible person, say I'm so glad that I 326 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: have this tool to use that gets me into the Bible. 327 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: And then, like we talked about with the Runners High, 328 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: the discipline turns into love and passion. Right, but this 329 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: can get you on the right path for it. 330 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's great. Habit stacking is like it's 331 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: just ingenious. I remember hearing about it for the first 332 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: time and I was like, well, of course, and with 333 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: I have a few suggestions that can be used with 334 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: habits stacking that are Yeah, I think that could be 335 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 4: so good for me. I really find it beneficial to 336 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: like the delayed gratification part of I will not do 337 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 4: so and so until I have done this and that 338 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 4: really works with me. 339 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: Do you have a specific have you done that with 340 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: your Bible reading before. 341 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: So one of the things that I've done is before 342 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: my coffee, like because I make coffee every day every morning, 343 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: and so it's just an easy trigger, and I have 344 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: in the past. I've even stuck a sticky note or 345 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: something just as a reminder to get me in the habit. 346 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: I'm not currently doing that with anything, but after recording this, 347 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: I think I will because it really is good. And 348 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: so one of the things that could work really well 349 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 4: with this is either just having it to read your 350 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: Bible or one of the things I've been doing recently 351 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 4: is I've been listening to Bible in a Year or 352 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: you can listen to something similar where someone reads through 353 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 4: the Bible. And what I like about Bible in a 354 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: Year is that it actually like brings in Old Testament, 355 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: New Testament, you know, like it brings in different parts 356 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 4: of the Bible, which is kind of nice for those 357 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: that really like the continuity of staying in the same 358 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 4: kind of book and go or going through a Bible study. 359 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: You might not like that, but I kind of like 360 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: bringing in a whole bunch of different things. So but yeah, 361 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: just but you could do something like that. Maybe I'll 362 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 4: start doing that because I've gotten away from I was 363 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: just kind of doing it. 364 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 3: Whenever I thought about it and listen to podcasts, I 365 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: would be like, oh, let me just listen to that. 366 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: But doing it first thing in the morning would be 367 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: really good before coffe. 368 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 369 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: That ties into another one of my tips is if 370 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: you can bring it into some type of audio Bible, 371 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: that can definitely help. Literally every single person who is 372 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: listening to us talk about this listens to podcasts. Otherwise 373 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: you wouldn't be hearing it. 374 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be with us. 375 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: I guess there's a small chance that you're watching us 376 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: in video format, but it does mean that you know 377 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: how to access the podcasts that read you the Bible, 378 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: or my husband loves to recommend the Bible Dots app 379 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: and you can download it in lots of different translations. 380 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: You can read it or have it read it to you. 381 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: There are some times I'll even go to YouTube and 382 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: just look for an audio Bible. So if you are 383 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: which we assume that most of you are, somebody who 384 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: likes to listen to content, then listening to an audio 385 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 2: Bible or a podcast that will walk you through the Bible, 386 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: or getting an app that walks you through the Bible 387 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: in an audio format can really help. 388 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 4: And I think that kind of goes to the what 389 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: is your learning style? Are you an auditory learner? Are 390 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: you a visual learner? Like? 391 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 3: Do you learn better? 392 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 4: And I'm sure there are some really easy tests to 393 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: do to figure this out, but just thank to yourself. 394 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: Do I prefer reading something and looking at it in 395 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: word form? Do I prefer listening to something? Or if 396 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 4: you're a tech tile learner, that means that you do 397 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 4: best by doing something. So you know, obviously, for media consumption, 398 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: you could either read your Bible or you could listen 399 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: to it. But what if neither one of those really 400 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 4: sticks or really I think someone that neither of those 401 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: is a viable option for them would just feel like, well, 402 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: I guess I'm just not in luck. But there are 403 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: some really cool ways that you can incorporate the Bible 404 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 4: into your life if you are a techtile learner or 405 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 4: a kinesthetic learner. So one of the ways that you 406 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: could do it is I loved we had Genevangelista. She 407 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 4: was on our Praying Christian Women online conference that we had. 408 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 4: We've had a couple of them, and I think she 409 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: was in both. She incorporates the Bible into art, and 410 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: I think that's so neat, and so she will actually 411 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: like do many different types of Bible art. Sometimes she 412 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: will write a word and just kind of do art 413 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 4: around it. Other Times she writes out scripture and then 414 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 4: like paints over the whole thing. Sometimes she will do 415 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: like the like the Bible that you actually can get 416 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: Bibles that you can like draw in the Bible itself 417 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: and while you're reading the scripture. They're just all different 418 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: ways you can do calligraphy and write it out beautifully. 419 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: So they're just they're just incorporating art into your scripture consumption. 420 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: Can actually be a really I don't know. I think 421 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: it could open doors for people who aren't traditional listen 422 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: to scripture or just read it out of a book. 423 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can absolutely take us out a tangent and 424 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: talk to the tactile learners out there, because that's me. 425 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: I wants to have a thing. So an eReader Bible 426 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: is never going to do anything for me. 427 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: It just is not. 428 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: And I have you know, it's not the same for 429 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: fiction or anything. But I want the substance of a 430 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 2: book in my hand, and I want the feel of 431 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: turning the page, and to me, because I am tactile, 432 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: the quality of the material does matter. 433 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: So I've never spent hundreds of dollars on a Bible. 434 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: But I'm also not going to enjoy sitting down with 435 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: like the five dollars flimsy paperback, right like there is 436 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: something to me. If you are tactile, the act of 437 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: turning the pages becomes part of what solidifized, what you 438 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: have just read, and that is how God designed you, 439 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: and so don't fight it, go with it. I think 440 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: being tactile is the reason why I love writing out 441 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: Bible verses. And you can do it in a beautiful way, 442 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: or you could do it just in a way, or 443 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 2: even sitting with a highlighter and highlighting. That is a 444 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: tactile experience there. And if none of those work for you, 445 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: I would encourage some people who are tactile are going. 446 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: To love this. 447 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: Learn how to sign a Bible verse and see if 448 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: learning how to do the sign language to a Bible 449 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: verse helps bring that verse to life for you. So 450 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: being tactile, I love to not just ruminate because that 451 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: feels more mental. I love to manipulate a verse, right, 452 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: which is why I like for me writing it out 453 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: can do that for me, but for some people well, 454 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: like the act of learning the sign language. It keeps 455 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: your hands engaged and it slows down your brain so 456 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: that you're having to think about each word. Pairing words 457 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: to motion is proven to increase your memory. So if 458 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: you're trying to memorize the Bible, learning the sign language 459 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: to it can be significantly more effective than just sitting 460 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: down and forcing yourself to learn the words to it. 461 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: So if your tactile learner and you want to try that, 462 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: go for it and let us know how that works 463 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: for you. 464 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: That is something I've never thought of, but I still 465 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: remember the signs for this song that I did in 466 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: like early elementary school. It was like be kind to 467 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: each other and love one another, and I remember the 468 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: signs to all of it. And it really does when 469 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 4: you incorporate that other, that motion aspect that is neat. 470 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 3: I think I want to start that. I want to 471 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: I want to. 472 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: Get into that and and learn some verses with sign 473 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: language or even just hand motions. You think about subjects 474 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: when you do songs of hand motions. But yeah, that 475 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: that is pretty cool. 476 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: Did you ever do the walk through the Bible program 477 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: or do you know it? 478 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh? 479 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: I loved that. 480 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: That was so neat. 481 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: Was that the one where it's like and he was 482 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 4: seen and seen and seen? Was that part of it 483 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: when we were talking displaying himself? 484 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 485 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh. 486 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 4: And it takes you it, I mean, it is what 487 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 4: it says. It like literally takes you through the Bible 488 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 4: from beginning to end. And I remember coming away from that. 489 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 4: I don't remember the motions to that. But for our 490 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: listeners that don't know, it's basically a program where the 491 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: person comes and they'll do this, you know, presentation of 492 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 4: teaching hand motions to help you remember the Bible. 493 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: Story of the Bible. It starting time. 494 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: From Genesis to Revelation, and it just takes the highlights 495 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: and high points of each I don't not necessarily book 496 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 4: of the Bible, but each each important event of the Bible, 497 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: and presents it in a way with hand motions to 498 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: remember it. I'd like to do it again so I 499 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: could actually remember it and put it to memory, because 500 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: it was for the first time I think I put 501 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 4: the Old Testament and the New Testament together in a 502 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: way that was very really transformed the way I saw 503 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: the Bible as a whole, which kind of brings us 504 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: to another, you know, ways of incorporating scripture into your 505 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: daily life. When we talk about prayer, I just have 506 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: been finding I think this two part episode came about 507 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: because we were both talking about I think I'd shared 508 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: with you that I just had realized that I'd been 509 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: coasting on Bible knowledge from you know, previous Bible knowledge, 510 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: and I had been focusing so much on prayer that 511 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: my prayers were not I did not feel like my 512 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: prayers were being as powerful because I was not as 513 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: rooted in scripture. 514 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: And Jesus talks about if you. 515 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: Remain in me and my words remain in you, ask 516 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: whatever you wish and it will be given you. Well, 517 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 4: my prayers had been more driven by kind of what 518 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 4: I wanted and my whims and my hopes and dreams, 519 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: which isn't bad. I mean, God wants us to bring 520 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: all of it to him. But I just believe that 521 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: by being connected with God's word and knowing it in context, 522 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: not just pulling out little snippets here and there, but 523 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: knowing it in context, which this walks through the Bible, 524 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: helps you to gain that perspective. I just really believe 525 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: it refines our prayers so that the prayers we pray 526 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 4: are more in alignment with who God is and what 527 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: he wants and not just kind of vending machine kind 528 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 4: of prayers. 529 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: If that makes sense. 530 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Definitely. Yeah. 531 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: Well, in one of the tips that I had for me, 532 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't get very much out of intellectually reading a 533 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: chunk of the Bible in order. I think it's important, 534 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: and I think things like walk through the Bible are important. 535 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: I think a good litmus test is ask yourself, do 536 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: you know, like if somebody just said, okay, walk me 537 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: through Genesis to Revelation and walk. 538 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: Me through the flow. 539 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean you need to know exactly who 540 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: Obadiah was and which minor prophet came first, but do 541 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: you know the general flow? Do you know that Daniel 542 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: had to come after David because David was the first king, 543 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: and David had to come after Abraham because Abraham was 544 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: the first patriarch, Like do you know that just very 545 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: general flow of Bible history? And if you don't, then 546 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 2: something like walk through the Bible that can give you 547 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: that just bird's eydeal can be really helpful, or a 548 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: chronological Bible or starting in in the Old Testament and 549 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: just going those can all be really helpful things. But 550 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 2: for me sitting down and reading the Book of Romans 551 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: start to finish, what I get out of that is 552 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: not the intellectual This is what Paul taught to the Romans, 553 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: and this is the history of what was going on 554 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: with the Christians in Rome at the time. What I 555 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: get are the verses that jump out to me that 556 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: I find inspiring or encouraging. And like I said, I 557 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: am trying to get over the fact that I've been 558 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: taught that I should feel guilty for that. I've been 559 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: taught that I should feel guilty for reading the Bible 560 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: for inspiration. And when you put it in those exact 561 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: words like I hope everybody understands that sounds really stupid, 562 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: which is not a word stupid y close to a 563 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: four letter word in our vocabulary, And but I hope 564 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: that people if you put it in those terms like 565 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: I hope that sounds appalling, right, Like if you have 566 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: a love letter that your husband wrote you and you 567 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: say I read it because it makes me feel so good, 568 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: and someone's like, well, that's stupid. 569 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: You should love your husband because he's your husband. 570 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: Like I hope people understand what I'm saying. I'm also 571 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: not saying that if you read the Bible and you 572 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: don't feel an emotional connection or a sense of grand 573 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: or a sense of inspiration, that you're doing it wrong. 574 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm just saying we're wired differently. I read the Bible 575 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: for that sense of this was beautiful, this was lofty, 576 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: This was encouraging to me. And ay, I think if 577 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: you're like me, that doesn't mean that you can ignore 578 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: all the context. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't have 579 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: at least a general view. Okay, Paul is running to 580 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: the Romans, and this is after Jesus's ascension to heaven, 581 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: and you know, this is for Christians today. This isn't 582 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: a letter that somebody wrote to the exiles of Jerusalem 583 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: in the Old Testament, right, Like, you kind of need 584 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: to know at least where it fits. But beyond that, 585 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: if you're like me and you are looking to go 586 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: maybe deeper into a verse or two, or into a 587 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: concept or two, as opposed to I want to learn 588 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: everything about the history of this. You know of this 589 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: book or something one way that I have learned. And 590 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: this is going to sound really silly, or we were 591 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: frivolous to some people. But I have been doing a 592 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: little bit of tapping through like a specific Bible verse, 593 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: And so if you're not familiar with tapping, Jaimee and 594 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: I recorded several episodes. The first one we did was 595 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: tapping prayerfully to overcome a phobia. And you can find 596 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: that that might not be the exact verbatim title of it, 597 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: but you know, google praying Christian women tapping phobia and 598 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: it's gonna pull up for you. And what I have 599 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: found again, I think this go back to me being 600 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: really tactile. Is it when you are applying pressure on 601 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: certain points of your body To me, it allows me 602 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: to focus in a way that I have not been 603 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: able to replicate in any other setting. So as a 604 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: quick example, I love doing this for versus that feel like, oh, 605 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: I've read this so often that it doesn't even mean 606 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: anything to me anymore. So let's take Psalm twenty three 607 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 2: The Lord is my Shepherd. I won't talk you through 608 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: all the or actu pressure points that I'm tapping on, 609 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: but just go watch our video previously, or maybe we 610 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: could even do just a clip of this tappic I'm 611 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: going to do right here, and throw it up on 612 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: our Instagram and YouTube and stuff. But I'll start on 613 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 2: one of the points, say the Lord is my shepherd. 614 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: The Lord is my shepherd, The Lord is my shepherd. 615 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: And then when I feel like that has sunk in. Right, 616 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: like when I water my plants, there's the and they're 617 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: really dry, I need to wait until I see that 618 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: the water has sunk in before I can do anything. Otherwise, 619 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: you can't just keep pouring water on really dry soil 620 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: because it just falls off the site. So once i 621 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: feel like it's sunk in, then I'll go to the 622 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 2: next part of the verse. I shall not be in one. 623 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: I shall not be in want, I shall not be 624 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 2: in one. And maybe I'm gonna stay here for several 625 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: rounds of tapping, and I'm just gonna say I shall 626 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: not be in one. 627 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: I shall not be in one. 628 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: To me, that helps me to slow down, which as 629 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: someone who is reading the Bible for that sense of 630 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: connection to God and to somebody who really likes having 631 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: a tactile sensation, that really helps me. 632 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I know. 633 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 4: At least one of our tapping episodes is episode three 634 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 4: seventy one Tapping for Christians, and it's about insecurities. There 635 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 4: was also a phobia one, and I just I do 636 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 4: think that. You know, the idea behind tapping has to 637 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 4: do with pressure points and you know actu pressure, But 638 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 4: even if you take all of that out, it's like 639 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: the hand motions, it's the act of doing it does something. 640 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 4: So so you like to pace while you think or talk. 641 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 4: It's so funny because our middle kid the other day 642 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 4: he was talking, we were I was helping him study 643 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 4: for something, and he stood up like on a chair. 644 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 3: I have done that before. 645 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 4: So when I worked in laboratory research, when I was 646 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 4: thinking through a problem, one of my lab mates was like, yeah, 647 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 4: I like to like stand up on this like stool thing. 648 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 4: It helps me think better. So I tried it and 649 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 4: I was like it does. It helped me work through 650 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 4: problems better. And so when he did that, I said, oh, 651 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 4: does that help you think better? He's like, yeah, it does. 652 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: And he said. 653 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 4: Another thing is when I when I'm pacing and walking, 654 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, I have to tell a lot 655 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 4: of that because that's what you do. You like to 656 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 4: pace while you're thinking and brainstorming. And I do the 657 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 4: same thing sometimes when I'm on the phone and it 658 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 4: really the act of doing something with your body other 659 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 4: than thinking helps incorporate it in better somehow, and. 660 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: I just does it sink shit. 661 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: Happing really does help. 662 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: But if you don't like the tapping side of it, 663 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: or if if you're in a place where like you 664 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 2: can't be tapping because you're sitting in church or something, 665 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: another way you can do it is just like squeezing. 666 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: Each individual finger. 667 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 2: So let's say I want to meditate on the fruit 668 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 2: of the Spirit, so I'm gonna squeeze, and it doesn't 669 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 2: really matter where you do it. I'm squeezing my pointer 670 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: finger just thinking love. God is love, Thank you God 671 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:24,959 Speaker 2: for your love. 672 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: And then I'm going to my next. 673 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 2: Finger and squeezing it thinking joy, God, please give me joy, 674 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: give my friend's joy. Then I'm going to my next finger. 675 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 2: So that can be another way. And it goes back 676 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: to one of our very first I think this might 677 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: be our very first quote prayer hack that we have 678 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: ever talked about, and that's praying with the timer, and 679 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: it's setting a timer for one minute and realizing how 680 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: much you can get done in one minute, and it 681 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: completely shatters this false assumption we all have that in 682 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: order to pray thoroughly, you need to have a huge 683 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: chunk of time, and you need to be in exactly 684 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 2: the right mindset. Do the same thing with a Bible 685 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: verse or a Bible passage. Tell yourself, I'm going to 686 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 2: think about this passage for one minute, and it is 687 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: going to blow your mind how deep you can get 688 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 2: in that short amount of time. 689 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and along those lines, one thing that probably just 690 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 4: has transformed my prayer life through scripture is scripture memory. 691 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 4: And I don't memorize things easily. It doesn't come easily 692 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: for me to memorize things without a context, so it 693 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 4: was tough in the beginning. But when I was in 694 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: college for the very first time, I did scripture memory, 695 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 4: like a bunch of verses. The navigators had like scripture 696 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 4: memory cards, and I wasn't part of the navs, but 697 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 4: I ended up getting those cards, a little like plastic 698 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 4: thing that you put the cards in. I remember walking 699 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: across campus and I would memorize. I had an accountability partner, 700 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 4: my roommate Stephanie and I and we every week we'd 701 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 4: memorize a new verse and then we would add the 702 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: next week and we would kind of quiz each other 703 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 4: and it was so cool to me, because you know, 704 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 4: Jesus said that when he sent the Helper the Holy Spirit, 705 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 4: that he would bring to mind the words that I've 706 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 4: said to you, But he can't bring to mind words 707 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 4: that you don't know. So when I started memorizing scripture, 708 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 4: I just found that I was all of a sudden 709 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 4: able to bring God's word into my circumstances at my need, 710 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: at the time of need. And I at the time 711 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 4: there were not smartphones, so you couldn't just look up 712 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 4: a verse like you had to go to your concredits. 713 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 4: You had to look in the back and figure it out, 714 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 4: and may or may not find it. And so there 715 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 4: were times when I was stuck and I couldn't find 716 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 4: a verse, and it helped me. Now, I guess fortunately Unfortunately, 717 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 4: now all you have to do is type in the 718 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 4: gist of a verse or Bible verse about X, Y 719 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 4: or Z, and you could get a whole list of them, 720 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 4: you know, because of our ability to search. But scripture 721 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: memory is still the very best thing. I don't always 722 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 4: I seldom remember the reference, but I remember the verse, 723 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 4: and so I just think it's a great Scripture memory 724 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 4: is a great way to incorporate scripture into your life 725 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 4: in a way that it just keeps on giving. It's 726 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: the gift that keeps on giving, it keeps coming. 727 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Yeah, let's go ahead and just put a pin. 728 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: Let's do our next episode together on just tips and 729 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: tricks for memorizing scripture, the importance of scripture memory. Yeah, 730 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: because that, honestly, I feel like, puts a cap on 731 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: exactly what we're talking about, because you can't memorize scripture 732 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 2: without meditating on it. You can't meditate without it turning 733 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: into something akin to prayers. So I think that that 734 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: really ties it into who we are as praying Christian women. 735 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 2: And I agree that it's important. But there are tips, tricks, 736 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: and blocks that we can discuss for that. 737 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: Which I think would be great. 738 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 2: So back to incorporating just regular Bible reading into your day, 739 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: I've got one more tip. This is straight from Atomic Habits, 740 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 2: which kind of follows the ideas of habit stacking and 741 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And so it's this idea of 742 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: make your Bible reading something that is going to be 743 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 2: easy and convenient and inviting for you. So whatever that means, 744 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 2: if that means that you always set your Bible out 745 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 2: the night before on the table, so when you go 746 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: and eat your breakfast, it's right there. 747 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: Do it. 748 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: Theoretically, should we all have the discipline to be about 749 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: to sit down at breakfast, notice our Bible isn't there, 750 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: and go and get it. Absolutely, but we don't. So 751 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: let's not feel guilty about that, and let's just do 752 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 2: what works well, you know. Or you can also do 753 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 2: the opposite. Maybe when I read my Bible, my phone 754 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 2: must be more than fifteen feet away from me so 755 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: that I'm not tempted to go and you know, pick 756 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: that up. I am going to sound really really old school, 757 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: but you talking about concordances made me realize tactile me 758 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: has lost a lot by not using concordances anymore to 759 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: look up books or to look up verses, because there 760 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: was something Like I said, flipping through the pages of 761 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 2: the Bible is like pacing for me. It is like 762 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: the act of movement that solidifies what you have just 763 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: read or what you're thinking about. And I'm going to 764 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 2: throw in one extra bonus here that just popped into 765 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: my head. If you have a really hard time, some 766 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 2: of us have hard times now like reading because we 767 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: have gotten so used to skimming, or we have just 768 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: gotten so used to needing distraction. Don't beat yourself up 769 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 2: over it. Recognize that that's what your brain has done, 770 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: and then ask yourself what can I do to improve this? 771 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: So keeping your phone farther away from you is one. 772 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: Also going back to reading actual books, whether you love 773 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 2: reading novels or nonfiction or like. So I'm not just 774 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 2: saying it has to be the Bible or books about 775 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: the Bible, but training your brain in your eyes to 776 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 2: get back into the habit of reading like lying to 777 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 2: line and not. 778 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: Just skimming, can really help. 779 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 2: I find that reading fiction is so important because we 780 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: talked about having that bird's eye view of the Bible 781 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: as a story, and if you don't know story structure, 782 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to grasp that as easily. 783 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 2: So one of my best high school teachers was my 784 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: literature teacher, and I had him for two years, and 785 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 2: I owe him some of what made me a writer, 786 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: even more so because I wanted to be a writer 787 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 2: like way before I met him. More so, I owe 788 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 2: him to teach me how to read, and that taught 789 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: me how to understand scripture, and we were reading like 790 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: crime and punishment. We weren't reading the Bible, but learning 791 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 2: how to look for symbolism, learning how to follow a 792 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 2: character arc, just learning how stories are shaped made the 793 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 2: Bible so much more accessible to me. When I was 794 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: a kid, I would watch movies, and I actually didn't 795 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: follow the story of a movie. To me, a movie 796 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 2: was like a scene and a scene and a scene 797 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 2: with the same characters. A lot later, like late teens, 798 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 2: maybe even earlier day builthood, that movies started to be 799 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: a fully formed story to me. And I think that 800 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: once you learned that the Bible is a story, and 801 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: you learn how to look for those story arcs, and 802 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 2: you learn to look for those things like symbolism and 803 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: motif and parallel and you know all those literary terms, 804 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: you can understand the Bible so much better. 805 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 4: I'm still stuck on how that trend that has to 806 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 4: have something to do with your process as an author, 807 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 4: So we'll have to talk about that another interesting maybe 808 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 4: that does well, very interesting the way that you. I 809 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 4: just wonder if it's because you analyze it so because 810 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 4: you know, just like with scripture, there's nothing wrong with 811 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 4: analyzing the compartment and seeing it for what it is, 812 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 4: because each book of the Bible, each chapter, each segment. 813 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it has benefits and should be looked at 814 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 4: in that way, but it needs to also have that 815 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 4: big picture in order because of things like different verses 816 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 4: that say different things that could be perceived as contradictions, 817 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 4: but put together gives you like a broader picture of 818 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 4: what God's message is overall. But anyway, I would love 819 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 4: to talk to you another time, just out of curios 820 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 4: about how that translates to you as an author and 821 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 4: a creative. 822 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well how about biggest takeaways are think about 823 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 2: your own personality and your own learning habits and find 824 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 2: the things that work for you and step away from 825 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 2: the guilt, step away from the shame of Well, a 826 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 2: real Christian wouldn't need to reward himself with a cup 827 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: of coffee for reading the Bible, But you know what, 828 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 2: if it works and it gets you into God's word, 829 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 2: do it, And that cup of coffee is a gift 830 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 2: from the Lord just as much as his word is, 831 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: you know, or maybe not just as much. 832 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: But I hope everyone gets the gist of what I'm saying. 833 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think to give yourself permission to find 834 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 4: hacks to get yourself into the routine of scripture for 835 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 4: the sake of connecting with God. 836 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. 837 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 4: And not to be afraid to do the things out 838 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 4: of discipline to get to the point of loving it 839 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 4: and not being guilty for not loving it right away, 840 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 4: and also not being afraid to ask God to give 841 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 4: you a love for His word. Yes, just as a 842 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 4: great starting point desire. 843 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the idea of like, well, a real 844 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 2: Christian shouldn't need to hack their Bible reading. I think 845 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: there's also humility in recognizing, Okay, maybe you're right. Maybe 846 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 2: I shouldn't need to have to reward myself. Maybe I 847 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 2: shouldn't need to have to have my Bible here the 848 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 2: night before in order to get into God's Word. But 849 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 2: because I'm not as perfect as some people think I 850 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 2: should be, these are the things that I've chosen to 851 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 2: do to make it work for me. There's humility in 852 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 2: recognizing that, so, did you have anything else you wanted 853 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 2: to add or you want to jump into our blessings 854 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 2: of menediction? 855 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 4: Now I feel like we kind of wrapped it up, 856 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 4: and I'm just excited because I think now that people 857 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 4: have started to get some ideas. I think our listeners 858 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 4: are going to have, like some of their own ideas 859 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 4: coming up, So I'm excited. 860 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the best ideas are going to come from you, 861 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 2: because you and the Lord know. 862 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: What works for you exactly, exactly well. 863 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 2: To leave you with our blessing and men addiction. Then, 864 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: may God stretch the mature your faith on a daily basis. 865 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: May mountains move as a result of your prayers. May 866 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 2: He me even your areas of weakness and help you 867 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: in your unbelief. May valleys rise up, and mountains and 868 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: hills be made low before you, so that nothing will 869 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: hinder your prayers. May the Holy Spirit breathe hope into 870 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 2: your prayers, so that every day your faith and strength 871 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 2: are renewed like the eagles. 872 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 4: And our benediction comes from Psalm twenty verses one through five. 873 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 4: May the Lord and answer you in the day of trouble. 874 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 4: May the name of God of Jacob protect you. May 875 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 4: He grant you your heart's desire and fulfill all your plans. 876 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:08,720 Speaker 3: Amen. 877 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 4: We'd like to take just a quick second to thank 878 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 4: the team at life Audio for their partnership with us 879 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 4: on the podcast. If you go to lifeaudio dot com, 880 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 4: you will find dozens of other faith centered podcasts in 881 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 4: their network. They've got shows about prayer, Bible study, parenting, 882 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 4: and so much more. That's lifeaudio dot com.