WEBVTT - Is a Red Line Still a Red Line? 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.000 I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:13.080 Last June, during the twelve Day War between Israel and Iran, 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.280 there was an ongoing debate as to whether or not 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.520 Donald Trump would intervene on behalf of the United States. 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.360 It was a torture debate. It was a debate that 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.960 was consuming headlines day in and day out for a 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:30.560 very chaotic nearly two week stretch. Yet again, now we 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.200 find ourselves here in January of the new year, dealing 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:37.000 with a very similar situation. Will he or won't see? 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.760 Will Donald Trump intervene? Will he address the fact that 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.440 his own stipulated redline has been flagrantly crossed? Or will 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:51.920 he not? The stakes are high. In twenty twelve, as 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:56.320 the Syrian Civil War was just getting underway, Barack Obama 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:01.000 announced that if chemical weapons were to be utilized in 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.240 the context of the war, namely by the former despot 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.760 there the Russia and Iran backed Ala Whites, Bashar al Assade, 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.240 Barack Obama said that would be a red line for US, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.440 mean the United States. That was in August twenty twelve. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.880 About one year later, in August twenty thirteen, that red 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:23.800 line was flagrantly crossed Sarngas was used by Bashar al 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.720 Asade to kill at least hundred, as possibly thousands of 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.160 innocent Syrians. Frankly, that was just a rounding err in 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.240 the total number of Syrians who were killed roughly a 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.520 half million or so. That number at the time, though 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:41.800 of the sarranghess attag included women's children, horrific. In response, 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:48.840 the Aboministration initially uttered some tough words. Subsequently, though, they 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:53.240 changed their tune. They deployed people like John Kerry at 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.920 the State Department and Chuck Hagel at the Pentagon. They 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:00.680 deployed them to Congress to testify and to assures that 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.760 action was coming, but it would be a very narrow 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:08.840 targeted pinprick strike. And then sure enough Obama negotiated a 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:13.640 diplomatic off ramp with Vlamir pun in Russia, whereby Russia, 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.400 which was a leading patron of Syria at the time, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.400 would allegedly find a way to get the chemical weapons 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:25.919 inside Syria and to collect them ultimately then giving them 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.720 hand them off to the proverbial international community for subsequent destruction. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.120 It was an embarrassing failure to enforce a red line. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.200 It was a moment from which Barack Obama's presidency never recovered. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.200 Is Donald Trump going to do the same thing. We're 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.440 not big fans of breadlines here on this show. We 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:51.280 discussed this earlier this week. I prefer my foreign policy 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.800 to be that Alvalxander Hamilton in the Federals Number seventy 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.680 in the Federal seventy, one of the great Federals papers 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.560 drafted by Alexander Hamilton, arguing on behalf of the unitary 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.720 executive structure, as to say, the singular president embodied an 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:12.640 article to the Constitution. Hamilton famously argues that unity in 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:17.560 the executive is important because decision activity, secrecy, and dispatch 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.920 will generally characterize the proceedings of one man in a 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.560 much more eminent degree than the proceedings of any greater number. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.040 Like Hamilton, I believe in secrecy in the executive, Like 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.880 Teddy Roosevelt many years later, I believe in the maxim 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.560 of speaking softly and carrying a big stick. But that 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.960 is not relevant to what we now face. Donald Trump 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:44.320 has issued for weeks now a recurring red line when 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.080 it comes to whether or not the Ronnie regime is 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:51.600 going to massacre their own civilians. On January second, so 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.320 two weeks ago now, Donald Trump wrote on Truth Social 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.200 if Iran shoots and violently kills peaceful protesters, the United 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.720 States America will come to the rescue. We are locked 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:06.840 and loaded and ready to go. Around that time, on 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.040 January second, roughly five hundred to six hundred Undians were 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.480 estimates who have been killed in the then nascent uprising, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.280 which had started the week prior, just before the new year. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.320 That number today has skyrocketed from five hundred to six 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.800 hundred to now an estimated. Very hard to say. There's 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.000 essentially ipossible to say. There's no reliable numbers here, but 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.960 we think we think somewhere between twelve and twenty thousand, 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:34.320 if not more than that. What's more, Earlier this week, 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.839 Trump doubled down on shrut Social. He said, Iranian patriots 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:43.120 keep protesting, take over your institutions, save the names of 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.760 the killers and abusers. They will pay a big price. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:52.599 Stop help is on the way. It is impossible to 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:57.040 avoid the obvious implications of these statements. Trump said that 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.080 if the Islamist regime in Tehran continues the slaughter of 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.719 its own citizens, the United States will indeed take some 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:08.480 unspecified but nonetheless clearly major action to staunch the bleeding. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:14.960 That seems to have changed just over the past thirty 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:20.080 six hours, give or take. Beginning on Wednesday, you had 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:24.400 some reports that some of the Arab countries Saudi Arabia, Katar, Oman, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:29.360 perhaps Egypt as well, allegedly tried to persuade Donald Trump 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.200 that there will be serious consequences to the US taking action, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.680 because around the same time that the US was already 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:40.159 preemptively removing military personnel from the largest US military base 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.320 in the region, all you Dd Air Base in Qatar, 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.080 as well as other assets in places like Iraq, Syria, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.800 and so forth. But the fear of repercussions from the 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.200 Irani regime did not stop Donald Trump from sending the 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.840 B two bombers last June, did it, So that doesn't 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.640 quite add up either. Even more peculiar, there was a 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:04.960 report from The New York Times yesterday on Thursday showing 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:10.720 that Benjamin Netanyahu allegedly, if you believe the reporting, allegedly 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.840 asked Donald Trump to postpone any planned attack on Iran, 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.640 which is wholly illogical taken at face value. The Iran 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.240 threat has taken up large swaths of Netniahu's career, he 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.359 and Trump seemed to be entirely simpot to go on 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.279 the same page. Let's not forget that in twenty twenty four, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.120 around the time that he was being re elected to 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.360 a second term, the DOJ actually formally indicted numerous individuals, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:39.000 charging them charging them with planned assassinations of Donald Trump 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.200 on behalf of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the militant 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:47.640 wing of the Islamus Claricy, the theocracy there in Iran. 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.039 So when the world is actually going on here now, 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.680 my best guess, my best guest continues to be that 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:59.080 we are looking at some very high profile k fabe, 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.440 which is a fans way of saying WWE style wrestling. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.440 If I were replaced in my bets, I still think 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.040 that there is going to be some sort of action 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.600 beyond the increased tariffs, beyond the increased sanctions that we've 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.240 seen over the past two days from the United States. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.960 The alternative is that perhaps the New York Times has 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.880 it right. Perhaps there is a chance that Netsan Yaku 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.440 does not want Trump to take action, which case we 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.640 could conclude one of two things. On the one hand, 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:34.560 perhaps Israel genuinely does fear reprisal from Iran. Maybe they 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.800 genuinely do not have the missile defense in place. I 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.360 find that very difficult to believe. The alternative is that 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:46.160 perhaps perhaps the Israelis got word or they at least 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.440 suspected that if Trump were to do anything, that it 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:57.000 would be a carry Hagel Obama style pinprick strike. It's 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.960 very difficult to know what to make of this. Again, 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.720 the notion that can do a pink prick strike now 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.200 flies in the face, flies in the face of these 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.320 spectacular B two bombing runs that we saw over four 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.600 down Natons and the other facilities in Iran last June. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.440 But making a mistake about it, a red line has 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.520 been breached, has been violated, has been trampled over. I 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.360 would not have advice that that red line being made, 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:21.880 But now that it has been made, it has been 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:29.560 crossed repeatedly. It's actually even worse than that. Just earlier today, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.200 Just earlier today, one of the leading advisors to the 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:38.880 Iyatola Kammeyeni in Iran apparently said in an address. He 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.840 said in an address that the Runan people heard that 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.000 he was recommending to the Mudels and to Kamyenni himself 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.520 that they start executing more of the protesters. So when 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.760 Donald Trump said a couple days ago that the killing 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.360 has stopped and there are no more executions, it's far 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.760 from obvious that that continues that that looks like it 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.560 will be the case moving forward. For what it's worth, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.520 Mike Walltz, the US Ambassadors to the Nations, was doubling 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.720 down on all options still being on the table just 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.839 on Thursday. Go ahead and watch this from Mike Wallace, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.640 the current used Ambassador to the United Nations. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:17.480 Let me be clear, President Trump is a man of action, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.480 not endless talk like we see at the United Nations. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.120 He has made it clear all options are on the 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.720 table to stop the slaughter, and no one should know 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.800 that better than the leadership of the Iranian regime. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.760 So he's reiterating that all options on the table, while 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:41.400 the President is giving off the impression that the calculus 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:47.360 has changed. So what is actually going to happen. Look, 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.120 at the end of the day, Israel is an important ally, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.719 for sure. I've heard this at great length. I even 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.240 wrote a book more on these themes. But Donald Trump 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.760 needs to do at this point what is best for 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:03.000 Donald Trump, United States, whether this is very high profile 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.199 try to throw off the enemy head fake cafe between 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.560 Trump and anti Yahoo, which I think it probably is. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:13.040 But in the alternative, if there actually is a combination 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:17.400 of pushback both within the Trump administration from the more 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.280 isolation as actors within the administration on the one hand, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:25.640 combined with potentially not just Arab allies the Middle East, 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:31.280 but also Israel, So on the one hand, this could 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.360 be high profile cafe of this head fake. On the 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.120 other hand, there could be a real pushback. The relevant 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:40.080 point is this that it is Donald Trump's reputation now 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.560 that is on the line. It is his reputation that 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:49.280 he has to uphold. He chose to make those posts, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:54.080 He chose to issue those those threats, those very clear 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.080 statements on his own social media site, through social He 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.760 didn't have to do that, but he chose to do it. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.400 Perhaps it was advisable, Perhaps it was inadvisable. It does 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.800 not matter. At this point. You cannot let this regime 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.960 get away with trampling on your red line. Trump didn't 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.280 allow them to do it. Last June. He didn't allow 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:22.400 Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela to escape after making lots of 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.000 threats against him. He didn't allow the various Islamist factions 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.920 in Nigeria to escape after making lots of threats to 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.520 them to stop slaughtering Christians. They learned that the hard 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.600 way on Christmas Day, symbolically of all days, and now 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.080 it is incumbent upon the president to make sure that 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.480 the Molas do not escape neatly. This time, Trump faces 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.080 a fork in the road. On the one hand, he 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.160 could go down God forbid the path of Barack Obama 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.360 as a president, to let his foreign policy dwindle by 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.880 not enforcing a clear red line. On the other hand, 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.440 Donald Trump has a unique opportunity to be even more 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.000 of a man of history, a great man of history, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.199 that is, than he already is. I hope he does 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:02.840 the right thing for what it's worth. I think he 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.199 will stay with us through the break. I'm Josh Hammer. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:14.240 We'll be right back. Welcome back. Well, there's all this talk, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.959 of course about the US tend to taking military action 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:21.080 in Iran, but most of the conversation otherwise continues to 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.760 focus on immigration, ice and what the heck is happening 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:29.880 in Minneapolis. Again. I don't pretend to know what exactly 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.599 is happening there in the Twin Cities either something in 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.199 the tap water. Why in the world is Minneapolis, this 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:42.160 frigid coal city with this longstanding Democrat farmer Labor party tradition, 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.200 I mean, why are they at the epicenter of all 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.439 of us? Really? I mean George Floyd in twenty and 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.000 twenty to the Somali fraud scandal that continues to be 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.120 just an exploding national story. I'm hoping to see many 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.440 more indictments, prosecutions and in that story for what it's worth. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.720 And now to the Renee Good shooting from Jonathan Ross, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.400 the ICE agents and the protests that are are now 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.600 threatening to spread over the country. I don't know what 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.200 the heck is going on in Minnesota, but I know 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.920 that it is not good. And one of the things 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.439 that are not good is the adle brains Governor Tim Wallas, 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.760 who really ought to resign in disgrace if he had 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.280 any modicum of shame or self awareness about him whatsoever. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.640 Tim Walls is an utter and complete disgrace to his job, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.760 to his position, to a state, to his people, to 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:30.760 his countrymen. He is an appalling, absolute disgrace. A couple 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.120 of nights ago, he took to YouTube to call on 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:37.240 Minnesota as his own citizens to take their cameras and 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:41.920 be citizen activists and start to film, to film the 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:47.160 ICE agents, film their atrocities, he said, for purposes of 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:53.080 future lawsuits by who by the ACLU. What are you doing, dude? 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:53.880 What is your goal? 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:54.120 Here? 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.560 Is your goal? Actually, as we speculate on this show, 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.800 is your actual goal not just to danger, but God 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:05.480 forbid to get more ICE agents actually killed for what 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.640 it's worth. Reporting at the Washington Free Beacon indicates that 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:14.960 the ragtag Rogue Marx's organization known as ICE Watch, which 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.720 is the organization that Renee Good belonged to that she 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.320 was quote unquote trained by before she had her fatal 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.280 confrontation with Jonathan Ross. The ICE Agent is an organization 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:30.920 that tries to train leftist citizen activists to stop ICE 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:35.000 immigration forrest in in order to engage in d arresting operations, 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.200 Which is a very fancy way of saying that you 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.360 tried then to go to the federal agents while he 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:44.200 is arresting and legal alien and stop the arrest. You know, 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:49.880 A better word for d arrest is anarchy or maybe insurrection, 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.600 as well, you know his case may be Stephan Miller, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.040 the top domestic policy deputy staff at the White House. Two. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.400 Miller has some thoughts on anarchy and insurrection in Innesota. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.000 Go ahead and watch this from Stephen Miller. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.880 I guess I just go back full circle and say 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:09.280 that on Minnesota right now, the insurrectionists have come out 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.640 of hiding. They're confronting our officers on the street. They're 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:18.440 being arrested. This is a national security priority. More arrests. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.440 The insurrections are being made every day, and each of 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.160 those are rests that provides an opportunity to learn more 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:31.480 about the network from a law enforcement and national security standpoint. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.000 So he's calling this an insurrection because it looks a 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:38.800 lot like an insurrection. Again, Ice watch this organization that 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.680 is apparently behind a lot of these protests. By the way, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.600 there was a big follow the Money style report that 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.360 showed that this big climate change boondoggles actually behind and 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.520 potentially paying many of these protests as well. That climate 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:56.000 change organization has gotten funding from all the usual suspects, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.680 whether it's the Ties Foundation, George Sorosis opens its foundation, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.280 all the usual left wing suspects are in on the 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.720 action here in Minnesota. So ice Watch, that other far 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.800 left group that Renee a Good, the now deceased leftist 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.880 activist who was killed by Jonathan Rosth, the ICE agent 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.080 in an act cel defense. Ice Watch, the group that 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.560 she belonged to, has now come out with a new 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:23.480 statement to Stephen Miller's point. Ice Watch now saying that quote, 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:28.840 the time is ripe to embrace militancy, militancy, and they're 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:33.400 saying that you have to escalate your demands against ICE 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:38.960 officers by any means necessary. That is code word for 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:44.640 violence is appropriate. Force is appropriate by any means necessary. 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.160 Is the exact same language you hear from the Kafiah 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.640 clad Hamas freaks, the from the River to the Sea 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.520 people when they support Hamas and they support Gihab and 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.760 they support murder, rate, pillaging violence, they say by any 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.400 means necessary. That's what ice Watch is saying here in 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:04.680 a domestic about ICE agents in Minneapolis. By the way, 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:09.480 just corroborating this, So ice Watch saying there is nothing 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.879 left to do but escalate. Disgusting and Tim Walts and 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.840 Governor totally corroborating this by saying hours after this ice 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.560 Watch team was put out, Tim Waltz, saying that he 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.560 also encouraged residents to resist Ice, and he accused Ice 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:34.200 of carrying out quote a campaign of organized brutality. Organize brutality. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:40.360 Just unbelievable stuff. I absolutely unbelievable. You know, once upon 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.359 a time the Democrats were not totally totally crazy on 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.959 the issue of immigration. Earlier this week, we were discussing 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.040 this portion of Bill Clinton's nine to ninety five State 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.480 of the Union dress talking about the threat of legal immigration. 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.399 Turns out it actually was not just Bill Clinton, actually 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.879 even include people like Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama. Go 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.680 ahead and watch this montage compiled by Fox Business. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.880 And as long as the current laws are on the books, 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.840 it's not just hardened felons who are subject to removal, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.720 but sometimes families who are just trying to earn a living. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:17.159 And sometimes when I talk to immigration advocates, you know, 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.560 they wish I could just bypass Congress and change the 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:24.159 law myself. But that's not how democracy works. To the 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:30.320 undocumented workers, you have to say, look, you've broken the law. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:32.879 You didn't come here the way you were supposed to. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.679 So this is not going to be a free ride. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.640 We must continue to do everything we can to strengthen 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.360 our borders, enforce our laws, and remove the illegal aliens 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.679 from our country. Whether they're innocent or guilty of the 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:50.040 crimes they're charged with in court, they're still here illegally 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.480 and they should be sent out of the country. 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.879 Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.239 People who enter the United States without our permission are 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:00.000 illegal aliens. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:06.600 Democrats support also enforcing laws, current laws against those who 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:07.800 came here illegally. 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.920 Could you imagine any of that happening today? Literally, any 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:15.040 of that? Chuck Schumer, Chuck freaking Schumer, Chuck Schumer saying 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:20.280 that Democrats support and forcing immigration law against illegals, undocumented, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.399 whatever or Willian term you want to use. Could you 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:29.879 imagine them saying that today? Unbelievable, Just just absolutely unbelievable. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.800 Look right now, you have one of the two major 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:39.200 political parties in America that cannot squarely answer the question, 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.919 as Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, deeply struggled to 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.320 do earlier this week in a Fox's interview with Griff Jenkins. 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.040 You have a lot of Democrats who are struggling mightily 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.000 to answer the very basic question as to whether or 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:56.320 not ICE should be abolished. And in that context, ICE 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.280 is not just an agency, it is a proxy for 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.320 immigration law. You see, this is the globalist dream. They 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:06.040 don't believe in borders. They don't believe in such thing 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:10.520 as immigration law. If you actually take the John Lennon 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:15.720 imagine the globalism utopia, no nations, no religion, no borders, 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:17.920 no war. You take that to its laws of conclusion. 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.760 They don't believe in immigration law. And that is why 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.639 Stephen Miller is fundamentally correct that this is an insurrection, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.800 is an insurrection in his domestic anarchy, very similar as 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.960 we've been arguing for weeks now to the Neo Confederate 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:42.600 insurrection and anarchy that Abraham Lincoln put down. Abraham Lincoln, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.760 by the way, knew a thing or two about the 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.919 Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven. In fact, Abraham Lincoln 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:56.280 actually invoked the Insurrection Act on April fifteenth, eighteen sixty one, 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.640 just days after the first shots of Civil War were 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:05.000 fired at Fort Sumter. The Insurrection Act, which Donald Trump 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:09.280 is now threatening to invoke, has been invoked all throughout 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.480 American history, beginning with Jefferson in eighteen oh eight, most 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:16.000 recently with President George H. W. Bush in ninet ninety two, 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.520 in the context of the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles, 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.040 is a statue that allows the domestic use of the 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:27.359 military to restore order amidst insurrection and anarchy. Well, if 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:31.600 so called sanctuary cities really are the bastions of neo 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.760 Confederate sentiments that I believe that they that they are, 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:37.600 If they really believe that the fellow government is immortal 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.240 and evil, and the states have an obligation to defy, 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.600 to nullify federal law, then wouldn't stand to reason that 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:51.200 the remedy is the same remedy that Lincoln invoked. That's 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.119 the Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven. For days, President 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.800 tran has been threatening to invoke this statute. I'm not 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.240 sure as a president what you're waiting for. You should 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.800 act on this law. Order must be restored. And yes, 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.840 as they say, by any means necessary, stay with us 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:06.640 with the break. I'm Josh Hammer will be right back. 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:17.399 Welcome back. Jordan Peterson one of the most famous persons 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.920 in the entire not just right of center speaking commenting space, 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:25.440 really this one one of the most well known academics, 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:31.159 just individuals really in North America. Jordan Peterson became famous, 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.960 among other things, for saying over and over, over and 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.240 over over again, to make your bed in the morning. 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.880 He was really reaching out, above all to disaffected young men. 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.680 He was saying. His message was that if you begin 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.720 your day by, among other things, making your bed, by 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.439 taking care of the small things, you are setting yourself 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.280 up for success and a good day. That order and 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:01.439 structure are important, and that order and s ructure begin 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:05.320 with the small things. Think of it as Rudy Giuliani's 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:09.160 style broken windows policing, and then turn that into day 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.520 to day living in ethics. So broken windows policing is 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.760 the theory that if you begin enforcing crimes against broken windows, 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:20.600 petty crime, petty larseny, things like that, then that will 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.160 then send a message that the bigger crimes, the rape, 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.520 the homicide, grand theft, auto, et cetera, then that will 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:31.600 definitely be enforced. And it was remarkably successful for whatever 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:34.199 it's worth as a matter of urban policing, from the 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.960 JULII minstration through the Bloomberger mistration before build a blasio 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:41.840 through out the window. Well, so too is Jordan Peterson's 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:47.879 style make your bed a very successful basic guideline for 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.280 how to live your life. This is one of the 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:56.679 big big divides as well, between Charlie Kirk and his 0:23:56.840 --> 0:24:00.800 lifelong arch foe, an archfoe who not the last people 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:04.440 like Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly continue to to laud and 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:09.920 promote that being Nick Flentes, Charlie Kirk makes memory of 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.679 be a blessing very much took the Jordan Peterson approach. 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:18.439 If you look at the massive archive of Charlie's talks 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.960 and lecturers and his back and forth with questioners at 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.760 his myriad events, all of that digital archive on YouTuber elsewhere, 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:29.080 you will see him repeatedly say two young men, teenagers, 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.480 twenty somethings, his core audience for his tragically truncated life. 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.080 He said, over and over and over again, take your 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:39.960 life into your own hands. If you look in the 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.160 mirror and you don't like the way you look, go 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:47.040 to the gym, start working out. If you're tired of 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.800 eating dinner by yourself and your one bedroom apartment, you're 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:53.040 tired of going to sleep by yourself a night you're lonely, 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.680 find that girl and ask her out on a date. 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.080 Maybe you'll even ask her hand in marriage, God willing, 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:06.000 you'll have children. You don't like your current job, your occupation, 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.080 work harter, develop a new skill set, if you go 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.280 back to school, learn a new technical trade. Whatever the 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.440 case it be. You control because we are human beings, 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.320 we have free will and we have human agency. It's 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:25.480 a core Peterson Kirk concept. On the other hand, you 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:29.720 have the Nick Flente style of victimology, a victimology that 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.760