1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Last June, during the twelve Day War between Israel and Iran, 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: there was an ongoing debate as to whether or not 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump would intervene on behalf of the United States. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: It was a torture debate. It was a debate that 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: was consuming headlines day in and day out for a 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: very chaotic nearly two week stretch. Yet again, now we 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: find ourselves here in January of the new year, dealing 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: with a very similar situation. Will he or won't see? 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Will Donald Trump intervene? Will he address the fact that 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: his own stipulated redline has been flagrantly crossed? Or will 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: he not? The stakes are high. In twenty twelve, as 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: the Syrian Civil War was just getting underway, Barack Obama 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: announced that if chemical weapons were to be utilized in 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: the context of the war, namely by the former despot 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: there the Russia and Iran backed Ala Whites, Bashar al Assade, 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Barack Obama said that would be a red line for US, 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: mean the United States. That was in August twenty twelve. 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: About one year later, in August twenty thirteen, that red 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: line was flagrantly crossed Sarngas was used by Bashar al 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Asade to kill at least hundred, as possibly thousands of 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: innocent Syrians. Frankly, that was just a rounding err in 23 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: the total number of Syrians who were killed roughly a 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: half million or so. That number at the time, though 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: of the sarranghess attag included women's children, horrific. In response, 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: the Aboministration initially uttered some tough words. Subsequently, though, they 27 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: changed their tune. They deployed people like John Kerry at 28 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: the State Department and Chuck Hagel at the Pentagon. They 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: deployed them to Congress to testify and to assures that 30 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: action was coming, but it would be a very narrow 31 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: targeted pinprick strike. And then sure enough Obama negotiated a 32 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: diplomatic off ramp with Vlamir pun in Russia, whereby Russia, 33 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: which was a leading patron of Syria at the time, 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: would allegedly find a way to get the chemical weapons 35 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: inside Syria and to collect them ultimately then giving them 36 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: hand them off to the proverbial international community for subsequent destruction. 37 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: It was an embarrassing failure to enforce a red line. 38 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: It was a moment from which Barack Obama's presidency never recovered. 39 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Is Donald Trump going to do the same thing. We're 40 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: not big fans of breadlines here on this show. We 41 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: discussed this earlier this week. I prefer my foreign policy 42 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: to be that Alvalxander Hamilton in the Federals Number seventy 43 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: in the Federal seventy, one of the great Federals papers 44 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: drafted by Alexander Hamilton, arguing on behalf of the unitary 45 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: executive structure, as to say, the singular president embodied an 46 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: article to the Constitution. Hamilton famously argues that unity in 47 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: the executive is important because decision activity, secrecy, and dispatch 48 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: will generally characterize the proceedings of one man in a 49 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: much more eminent degree than the proceedings of any greater number. 50 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Like Hamilton, I believe in secrecy in the executive, Like 51 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt many years later, I believe in the maxim 52 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: of speaking softly and carrying a big stick. But that 53 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: is not relevant to what we now face. Donald Trump 54 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: has issued for weeks now a recurring red line when 55 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: it comes to whether or not the Ronnie regime is 56 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: going to massacre their own civilians. On January second, so 57 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: two weeks ago now, Donald Trump wrote on Truth Social 58 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: if Iran shoots and violently kills peaceful protesters, the United 59 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: States America will come to the rescue. We are locked 60 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: and loaded and ready to go. Around that time, on 61 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: January second, roughly five hundred to six hundred Undians were 62 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: estimates who have been killed in the then nascent uprising, 63 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: which had started the week prior, just before the new year. 64 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: That number today has skyrocketed from five hundred to six 65 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: hundred to now an estimated. Very hard to say. There's 66 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: essentially ipossible to say. There's no reliable numbers here, but 67 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: we think we think somewhere between twelve and twenty thousand, 68 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: if not more than that. What's more, Earlier this week, 69 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: Trump doubled down on shrut Social. He said, Iranian patriots 70 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: keep protesting, take over your institutions, save the names of 71 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: the killers and abusers. They will pay a big price. 72 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: Stop help is on the way. It is impossible to 73 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: avoid the obvious implications of these statements. Trump said that 74 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: if the Islamist regime in Tehran continues the slaughter of 75 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: its own citizens, the United States will indeed take some 76 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: unspecified but nonetheless clearly major action to staunch the bleeding. 77 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: That seems to have changed just over the past thirty 78 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: six hours, give or take. Beginning on Wednesday, you had 79 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: some reports that some of the Arab countries Saudi Arabia, Katar, Oman, 80 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: perhaps Egypt as well, allegedly tried to persuade Donald Trump 81 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: that there will be serious consequences to the US taking action, 82 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: because around the same time that the US was already 83 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: preemptively removing military personnel from the largest US military base 84 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: in the region, all you Dd Air Base in Qatar, 85 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: as well as other assets in places like Iraq, Syria, 86 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: and so forth. But the fear of repercussions from the 87 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Irani regime did not stop Donald Trump from sending the 88 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: B two bombers last June, did it, So that doesn't 89 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: quite add up either. Even more peculiar, there was a 90 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: report from The New York Times yesterday on Thursday showing 91 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: that Benjamin Netanyahu allegedly, if you believe the reporting, allegedly 92 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: asked Donald Trump to postpone any planned attack on Iran, 93 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: which is wholly illogical taken at face value. The Iran 94 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: threat has taken up large swaths of Netniahu's career, he 95 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: and Trump seemed to be entirely simpot to go on 96 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: the same page. Let's not forget that in twenty twenty four, 97 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: around the time that he was being re elected to 98 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: a second term, the DOJ actually formally indicted numerous individuals, 99 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: charging them charging them with planned assassinations of Donald Trump 100 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: on behalf of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the militant 101 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: wing of the Islamus Claricy, the theocracy there in Iran. 102 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: So when the world is actually going on here now, 103 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: my best guess, my best guest continues to be that 104 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: we are looking at some very high profile k fabe, 105 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: which is a fans way of saying WWE style wrestling. 106 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: If I were replaced in my bets, I still think 107 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: that there is going to be some sort of action 108 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: beyond the increased tariffs, beyond the increased sanctions that we've 109 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: seen over the past two days from the United States. 110 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: The alternative is that perhaps the New York Times has 111 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: it right. Perhaps there is a chance that Netsan Yaku 112 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: does not want Trump to take action, which case we 113 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: could conclude one of two things. On the one hand, 114 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: perhaps Israel genuinely does fear reprisal from Iran. Maybe they 115 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: genuinely do not have the missile defense in place. I 116 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: find that very difficult to believe. The alternative is that 117 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps the Israelis got word or they at least 118 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: suspected that if Trump were to do anything, that it 119 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: would be a carry Hagel Obama style pinprick strike. It's 120 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: very difficult to know what to make of this. Again, 121 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: the notion that can do a pink prick strike now 122 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: flies in the face, flies in the face of these 123 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: spectacular B two bombing runs that we saw over four 124 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: down Natons and the other facilities in Iran last June. 125 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: But making a mistake about it, a red line has 126 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: been breached, has been violated, has been trampled over. I 127 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: would not have advice that that red line being made, 128 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: But now that it has been made, it has been 129 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: crossed repeatedly. It's actually even worse than that. Just earlier today, 130 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: Just earlier today, one of the leading advisors to the 131 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Iyatola Kammeyeni in Iran apparently said in an address. He 132 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: said in an address that the Runan people heard that 133 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: he was recommending to the Mudels and to Kamyenni himself 134 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: that they start executing more of the protesters. So when 135 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump said a couple days ago that the killing 136 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: has stopped and there are no more executions, it's far 137 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: from obvious that that continues that that looks like it 138 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: will be the case moving forward. For what it's worth, 139 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Mike Walltz, the US Ambassadors to the Nations, was doubling 140 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: down on all options still being on the table just 141 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Go ahead and watch this from Mike Wallace, 142 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: the current used Ambassador to the United Nations. 143 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: Let me be clear, President Trump is a man of action, 144 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: not endless talk like we see at the United Nations. 145 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: He has made it clear all options are on the 146 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: table to stop the slaughter, and no one should know 147 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: that better than the leadership of the Iranian regime. 148 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: So he's reiterating that all options on the table, while 149 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the President is giving off the impression that the calculus 150 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: has changed. So what is actually going to happen. Look, 151 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Israel is an important ally, 152 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: for sure. I've heard this at great length. I even 153 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: wrote a book more on these themes. But Donald Trump 154 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: needs to do at this point what is best for 155 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, United States, whether this is very high profile 156 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: try to throw off the enemy head fake cafe between 157 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: Trump and anti Yahoo, which I think it probably is. 158 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: But in the alternative, if there actually is a combination 159 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: of pushback both within the Trump administration from the more 160 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: isolation as actors within the administration on the one hand, 161 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: combined with potentially not just Arab allies the Middle East, 162 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: but also Israel, So on the one hand, this could 163 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: be high profile cafe of this head fake. On the 164 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: other hand, there could be a real pushback. The relevant 165 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: point is this that it is Donald Trump's reputation now 166 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: that is on the line. It is his reputation that 167 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: he has to uphold. He chose to make those posts, 168 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: He chose to issue those those threats, those very clear 169 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: statements on his own social media site, through social He 170 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: didn't have to do that, but he chose to do it. 171 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: Perhaps it was advisable, Perhaps it was inadvisable. It does 172 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: not matter. At this point. You cannot let this regime 173 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: get away with trampling on your red line. Trump didn't 174 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: allow them to do it. Last June. He didn't allow 175 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela to escape after making lots of 176 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: threats against him. He didn't allow the various Islamist factions 177 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: in Nigeria to escape after making lots of threats to 178 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: them to stop slaughtering Christians. They learned that the hard 179 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: way on Christmas Day, symbolically of all days, and now 180 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: it is incumbent upon the president to make sure that 181 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: the Molas do not escape neatly. This time, Trump faces 182 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: a fork in the road. On the one hand, he 183 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: could go down God forbid the path of Barack Obama 184 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: as a president, to let his foreign policy dwindle by 185 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: not enforcing a clear red line. On the other hand, 186 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has a unique opportunity to be even more 187 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: of a man of history, a great man of history, 188 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: that is, than he already is. I hope he does 189 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: the right thing for what it's worth. I think he 190 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: will stay with us through the break. I'm Josh Hammer. 191 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back. Well, there's all this talk, 192 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: of course about the US tend to taking military action 193 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: in Iran, but most of the conversation otherwise continues to 194 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: focus on immigration, ice and what the heck is happening 195 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. Again. I don't pretend to know what exactly 196 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: is happening there in the Twin Cities either something in 197 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: the tap water. Why in the world is Minneapolis, this 198 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: frigid coal city with this longstanding Democrat farmer Labor party tradition, 199 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, why are they at the epicenter of all 200 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: of us? Really? I mean George Floyd in twenty and 201 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: twenty to the Somali fraud scandal that continues to be 202 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: just an exploding national story. I'm hoping to see many 203 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: more indictments, prosecutions and in that story for what it's worth. 204 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: And now to the Renee Good shooting from Jonathan Ross, 205 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: the ICE agents and the protests that are are now 206 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: threatening to spread over the country. I don't know what 207 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: the heck is going on in Minnesota, but I know 208 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: that it is not good. And one of the things 209 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: that are not good is the adle brains Governor Tim Wallas, 210 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: who really ought to resign in disgrace if he had 211 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: any modicum of shame or self awareness about him whatsoever. 212 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Tim Walls is an utter and complete disgrace to his job, 213 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: to his position, to a state, to his people, to 214 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: his countrymen. He is an appalling, absolute disgrace. A couple 215 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: of nights ago, he took to YouTube to call on 216 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota as his own citizens to take their cameras and 217 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: be citizen activists and start to film, to film the 218 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: ICE agents, film their atrocities, he said, for purposes of 219 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: future lawsuits by who by the ACLU. What are you doing, dude? 220 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: What is your goal? 221 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: Here? 222 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: Is your goal? Actually, as we speculate on this show, 223 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: is your actual goal not just to danger, but God 224 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: forbid to get more ICE agents actually killed for what 225 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: it's worth. Reporting at the Washington Free Beacon indicates that 226 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: the ragtag Rogue Marx's organization known as ICE Watch, which 227 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: is the organization that Renee Good belonged to that she 228 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: was quote unquote trained by before she had her fatal 229 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: confrontation with Jonathan Ross. The ICE Agent is an organization 230 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: that tries to train leftist citizen activists to stop ICE 231 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: immigration forrest in in order to engage in d arresting operations, 232 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: Which is a very fancy way of saying that you 233 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: tried then to go to the federal agents while he 234 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: is arresting and legal alien and stop the arrest. You know, 235 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: A better word for d arrest is anarchy or maybe insurrection, 236 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: as well, you know his case may be Stephan Miller, 237 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: the top domestic policy deputy staff at the White House. Two. 238 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: Miller has some thoughts on anarchy and insurrection in Innesota. 239 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Go ahead and watch this from Stephen Miller. 240 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: I guess I just go back full circle and say 241 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: that on Minnesota right now, the insurrectionists have come out 242 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: of hiding. They're confronting our officers on the street. They're 243 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: being arrested. This is a national security priority. More arrests. 244 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: The insurrections are being made every day, and each of 245 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: those are rests that provides an opportunity to learn more 246 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: about the network from a law enforcement and national security standpoint. 247 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: So he's calling this an insurrection because it looks a 248 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: lot like an insurrection. Again, Ice watch this organization that 249 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: is apparently behind a lot of these protests. By the way, 250 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: there was a big follow the Money style report that 251 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: showed that this big climate change boondoggles actually behind and 252 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: potentially paying many of these protests as well. That climate 253 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: change organization has gotten funding from all the usual suspects, 254 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: whether it's the Ties Foundation, George Sorosis opens its foundation, 255 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: all the usual left wing suspects are in on the 256 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: action here in Minnesota. So ice Watch, that other far 257 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: left group that Renee a Good, the now deceased leftist 258 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: activist who was killed by Jonathan Rosth, the ICE agent 259 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: in an act cel defense. Ice Watch, the group that 260 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: she belonged to, has now come out with a new 261 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: statement to Stephen Miller's point. Ice Watch now saying that quote, 262 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: the time is ripe to embrace militancy, militancy, and they're 263 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: saying that you have to escalate your demands against ICE 264 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: officers by any means necessary. That is code word for 265 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: violence is appropriate. Force is appropriate by any means necessary. 266 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Is the exact same language you hear from the Kafiah 267 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: clad Hamas freaks, the from the River to the Sea 268 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: people when they support Hamas and they support Gihab and 269 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: they support murder, rate, pillaging violence, they say by any 270 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: means necessary. That's what ice Watch is saying here in 271 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: a domestic about ICE agents in Minneapolis. By the way, 272 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: just corroborating this, So ice Watch saying there is nothing 273 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: left to do but escalate. Disgusting and Tim Walts and 274 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: Governor totally corroborating this by saying hours after this ice 275 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: Watch team was put out, Tim Waltz, saying that he 276 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: also encouraged residents to resist Ice, and he accused Ice 277 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: of carrying out quote a campaign of organized brutality. Organize brutality. 278 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: Just unbelievable stuff. I absolutely unbelievable. You know, once upon 279 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: a time the Democrats were not totally totally crazy on 280 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: the issue of immigration. Earlier this week, we were discussing 281 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: this portion of Bill Clinton's nine to ninety five State 282 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: of the Union dress talking about the threat of legal immigration. 283 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: Turns out it actually was not just Bill Clinton, actually 284 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: even include people like Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama. Go 285 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: ahead and watch this montage compiled by Fox Business. 286 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 5: And as long as the current laws are on the books, 287 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: it's not just hardened felons who are subject to removal, 288 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 5: but sometimes families who are just trying to earn a living. 289 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 5: And sometimes when I talk to immigration advocates, you know, 290 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 5: they wish I could just bypass Congress and change the 291 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 5: law myself. But that's not how democracy works. To the 292 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: undocumented workers, you have to say, look, you've broken the law. 293 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 5: You didn't come here the way you were supposed to. 294 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 5: So this is not going to be a free ride. 295 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: We must continue to do everything we can to strengthen 296 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: our borders, enforce our laws, and remove the illegal aliens 297 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: from our country. Whether they're innocent or guilty of the 298 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: crimes they're charged with in court, they're still here illegally 299 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: and they should be sent out of the country. 300 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple. 301 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 4: People who enter the United States without our permission are 302 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: illegal aliens. 303 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: Democrats support also enforcing laws, current laws against those who 304 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: came here illegally. 305 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: Could you imagine any of that happening today? Literally, any 306 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: of that? Chuck Schumer, Chuck freaking Schumer, Chuck Schumer saying 307 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: that Democrats support and forcing immigration law against illegals, undocumented, 308 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: whatever or Willian term you want to use. Could you 309 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: imagine them saying that today? Unbelievable, Just just absolutely unbelievable. 310 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: Look right now, you have one of the two major 311 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: political parties in America that cannot squarely answer the question, 312 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: as Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, deeply struggled to 313 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: do earlier this week in a Fox's interview with Griff Jenkins. 314 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: You have a lot of Democrats who are struggling mightily 315 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: to answer the very basic question as to whether or 316 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: not ICE should be abolished. And in that context, ICE 317 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: is not just an agency, it is a proxy for 318 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: immigration law. You see, this is the globalist dream. They 319 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: don't believe in borders. They don't believe in such thing 320 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: as immigration law. If you actually take the John Lennon 321 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: imagine the globalism utopia, no nations, no religion, no borders, 322 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: no war. You take that to its laws of conclusion. 323 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: They don't believe in immigration law. And that is why 324 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: Stephen Miller is fundamentally correct that this is an insurrection, 325 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: is an insurrection in his domestic anarchy, very similar as 326 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: we've been arguing for weeks now to the Neo Confederate 327 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: insurrection and anarchy that Abraham Lincoln put down. Abraham Lincoln, 328 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: by the way, knew a thing or two about the 329 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven. In fact, Abraham Lincoln 330 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: actually invoked the Insurrection Act on April fifteenth, eighteen sixty one, 331 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: just days after the first shots of Civil War were 332 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: fired at Fort Sumter. The Insurrection Act, which Donald Trump 333 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: is now threatening to invoke, has been invoked all throughout 334 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: American history, beginning with Jefferson in eighteen oh eight, most 335 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: recently with President George H. W. Bush in ninet ninety two, 336 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: in the context of the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles, 337 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: is a statue that allows the domestic use of the 338 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: military to restore order amidst insurrection and anarchy. Well, if 339 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: so called sanctuary cities really are the bastions of neo 340 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Confederate sentiments that I believe that they that they are, 341 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: If they really believe that the fellow government is immortal 342 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: and evil, and the states have an obligation to defy, 343 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: to nullify federal law, then wouldn't stand to reason that 344 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: the remedy is the same remedy that Lincoln invoked. That's 345 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: the Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven. For days, President 346 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: tran has been threatening to invoke this statute. I'm not 347 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: sure as a president what you're waiting for. You should 348 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: act on this law. Order must be restored. And yes, 349 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: as they say, by any means necessary, stay with us 350 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: with the break. I'm Josh Hammer will be right back. 351 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jordan Peterson one of the most famous persons 352 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: in the entire not just right of center speaking commenting space, 353 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: really this one one of the most well known academics, 354 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: just individuals really in North America. Jordan Peterson became famous, 355 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: among other things, for saying over and over, over and 356 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: over over again, to make your bed in the morning. 357 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: He was really reaching out, above all to disaffected young men. 358 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: He was saying. His message was that if you begin 359 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: your day by, among other things, making your bed, by 360 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: taking care of the small things, you are setting yourself 361 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: up for success and a good day. That order and 362 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: structure are important, and that order and s ructure begin 363 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: with the small things. Think of it as Rudy Giuliani's 364 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: style broken windows policing, and then turn that into day 365 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: to day living in ethics. So broken windows policing is 366 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: the theory that if you begin enforcing crimes against broken windows, 367 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: petty crime, petty larseny, things like that, then that will 368 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: then send a message that the bigger crimes, the rape, 369 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: the homicide, grand theft, auto, et cetera, then that will 370 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: definitely be enforced. And it was remarkably successful for whatever 371 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: it's worth as a matter of urban policing, from the 372 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: JULII minstration through the Bloomberger mistration before build a blasio 373 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: through out the window. Well, so too is Jordan Peterson's 374 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: style make your bed a very successful basic guideline for 375 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: how to live your life. This is one of the 376 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: big big divides as well, between Charlie Kirk and his 377 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: lifelong arch foe, an archfoe who not the last people 378 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: like Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly continue to to laud and 379 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: promote that being Nick Flentes, Charlie Kirk makes memory of 380 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: be a blessing very much took the Jordan Peterson approach. 381 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: If you look at the massive archive of Charlie's talks 382 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: and lecturers and his back and forth with questioners at 383 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: his myriad events, all of that digital archive on YouTuber elsewhere, 384 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: you will see him repeatedly say two young men, teenagers, 385 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: twenty somethings, his core audience for his tragically truncated life. 386 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: He said, over and over and over again, take your 387 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: life into your own hands. If you look in the 388 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: mirror and you don't like the way you look, go 389 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: to the gym, start working out. If you're tired of 390 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: eating dinner by yourself and your one bedroom apartment, you're 391 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: tired of going to sleep by yourself a night you're lonely, 392 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: find that girl and ask her out on a date. 393 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: Maybe you'll even ask her hand in marriage, God willing, 394 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: you'll have children. You don't like your current job, your occupation, 395 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: work harter, develop a new skill set, if you go 396 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: back to school, learn a new technical trade. Whatever the 397 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: case it be. You control because we are human beings, 398 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: we have free will and we have human agency. It's 399 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: a core Peterson Kirk concept. On the other hand, you 400 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: have the Nick Flente style of victimology, a victimology that 401 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: is shared by both the flent Day's quote unquote rights 402 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: to extend that it's on the rights, which not really 403 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: it really isn't, and that victimology that that victim mentality 404 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: is shared by the left. In kind of a bizarre 405 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: horseshoe effect. You have this victimology between parts of the 406 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: so called right and the large bulk of the left, 407 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: best embodied and encapsulated by the DEI mentality. The entire 408 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: premise of DEI diversity, equity of and inclusion is a 409 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: victim mentality. If you are a black person, a Hispanic person, 410 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: if you are a sexual minority, whatever the case may be, 411 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: then you're oppressed and it's not your fault. You see 412 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: the DII. People say, because you were born into that repression, 413 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: you're white Christian and also Asian and Jewish overlords. They 414 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: have systematically been impressing you since before you were born. 415 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: You didn't even know it. This is basically Nick finds 416 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: his message as well when he calls for people to 417 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: so aggressively rage against the machine as he does. He 418 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: doesn't believe in human agency. He believes that his followers 419 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: of the groupers are victims. Well, ironically, I didn't necessarily 420 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: see this coming, but Oprah Winfrey, of all people, had 421 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: some very interesting and i'm very troubling comments when it 422 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: comes to weight loss. Oprah is one of the largest 423 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: stakeholders of weight Watchers. She very famously has been back 424 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: and forth when it comes to her own weight over 425 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: the years, She's spoken about this at great length, and 426 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: she had comments on this that really brought me back 427 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: to this whole broader debate between agency versus victimology. Go 428 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: ahead and watch Oprah Winfrey talking on the view. Yes, 429 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: you know why. 430 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 6: It's one of my biggest regrets because I think that 431 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 6: moment contributed to the diet culture in a way to say, 432 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 6: look at what I've done, Now you can do it. 433 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 6: And even though everybody said to me, oh, you're going 434 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 6: to put it back on because I thought it was 435 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 6: my fault, and because I always thought, like so many 436 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 6: of you in the world are thinking it's about willpower, 437 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 6: it is not. Because I thought it was about willpower. 438 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 6: I thought that moment, Oh it's gone. I thought that moment. 439 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 6: I thought that moment had proven that I have the 440 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 6: willpower because I went four months and I didn't eat 441 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 6: a morsel of food. 442 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So Oprah Winfrey essentially saying that sheer willpower is 443 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: not enough, that willpower is not enough, nor to lose weight, 444 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: but you actually really ought to get on medication as well. 445 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Now most people I think hear that and they say, well, 446 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: that's a little weird, But then you think about a 447 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: little more, and perhaps it's actually even more than weird. 448 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: You would not be wrong to ask whether there are 449 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: some ulterior motives going on here. In fact, I was 450 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: looking around and Jillian Michaels, actually the well known fitness girls, 451 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: actually on Jillian's own show just a Called weeks ago 452 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: to discuss the Maduro operation of Venezuela. So about two 453 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: years ago, Jillian Michaels actually claimed that Oprah Winfrey has 454 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: a quote financial incentive with ozempic after Oprah admitted to 455 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: using various weight loss medication and losing forty pounds, and apparently, 456 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: according to Jillian Michaels, Oprah has this financial incentive to 457 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: ozempic and maybe perhaps a big farm and more generally 458 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: through her stake at weight Watchers. WeightWatchers is now in 459 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: the ozempic business. If you have not been paying attention 460 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: to their particular bismodel, your miles may vary as to 461 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: what to make of that for what it's worth. Shortly 462 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: after Jullie Michaels made these comments January twenty twenty four, 463 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey actually resigned from the board of Weight Watchers, 464 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: but to my knowledgy has not financially divested, so the 465 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: financial complications may well still be there. But even more 466 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: troubling than whatever ulterior motive there may or may not 467 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: be when it comes to Oprah Winfree talking about how 468 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: will power is not enough, Even more troubling, indeed profoundly 469 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: more troubling than that is the actual message itself. Oprah 470 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: is someone who has led a very inspiring story, coming 471 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: up from the poor background she did and now being 472 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: a billionaire, one of the wealthiest black people in America, 473 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: and frankly the world. She has looked up to as 474 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: a hero by countless, countless Americans, mostly on the left, 475 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: because she's very publicly of the left, speaking as she 476 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: did at the Democrat National Committee in Chicago in August 477 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. But still she is still lionized by 478 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: many of both a political and an apolitical variety. So 479 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: it should really disturb us that Oprah Winfrey is questioning 480 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: and calling into calling into a deep question, really undermining 481 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: the entire notion that human beings can take their own 482 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: lives into their hands. I could not disagree with this more. 483 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: I have countless friends. I've never been obese. My weights 484 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: fluctuate a little bit like any adults. But I have 485 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: numerous friends who were actually obese. I'm not talking like 486 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: weigh you know, three hundred plus weiy pounds who lost 487 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: a ton of weight. I have one friend who lost 488 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty pounds by doing nothing more 489 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: than walking insane amounts over the course of the day 490 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: and giving up alcohol. That's it. I have another friends 491 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: who lost a similar amounts, easily over one hundred pounds. 492 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: Not sure of one hundred and eighty, but one three whatever. 493 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: Same thing, just walks around all day in New York City, 494 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: eats a little healthier and gave up, gave up the booze, Oprah, 495 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: Why is that not good enough? You know, shouldn't we 496 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: be encouraging young people to do it on natural to 497 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: do it the natural way. This definitely is the Charlie 498 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: Kirk Jordan Pier's mentality called the Josh hammerd mentality too. 499 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: If you have a chronic medical condition, by all means, 500 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: takes some medication. I take some prescription drugs as well 501 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: for various conditions, nothing severe, but a couple of smaller things. 502 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: But this is not that it's a weight loss. If 503 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: you are so undisciplined that you can't get yourself to 504 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: eat better, go to the gym, do things to lose weight, 505 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: then you're never gonna have the discipline that's necessary for 506 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: life itself. And that is the real problem with Oprah's 507 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: terrible comments. Frankly, she should be a shame of herself. Awful, 508 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: awful stuff from Oprah Winfrey. I'm Josh Hammer. Stay with us, 509 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this break. I'm Josh Hammer, 510 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: and welcome back. Before the break, we were speaking about 511 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey and human agency. Does she believe in it? 512 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Or does she not believe in it? Frankly, you might 513 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: be confused based on her astounding recent comments about human willpower, 514 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: ozeenpic and weight loss. I think now about the foreign stage, 515 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: there is one particular population across the world who Western powers, 516 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: for decades have said, don't really have human agency to 517 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: overcome their own circumstances. Think for a second about what 518 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: that could be. I'll give you a second. Really got it? Okay? Yeah, 519 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: it's the Palestinian Arabs. How many times over the past 520 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: fifty sixty seven years have we heard Western lawmakers from 521 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: Brussels to Turtle Bay, the Nine Nations to everywhere everywhere, 522 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: all the cours of power, the UN, the Democratic National Committee, 523 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: the the Baraco bombinistration, they always say the Palestinians are 524 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: victims of their own circumstances. You can't expect them to 525 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: stop subsidizing jihad, the pay for slave scheme. How can 526 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: you convince them or how can you expect them to 527 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: do that? They're the victims of their own circumstances. Don't 528 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: you see Palestinianism as an identity? Is this dei Twente 529 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: style of victimology transported to the world stage. The Palestinians, 530 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: the so called Palestinians, are now back in the news 531 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: yet again this week. Steve Wikoff, who is the US 532 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Special Envoy not just for the Middle East but for 533 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: Rush Ukraine, and he's kind of just Donald Trump's right 534 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: hand man when it comes to international diplomacy, for better 535 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: or for worse, as the case may be. So on 536 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: Wednesday earlier this week, Steve Wikoff announcing the launch of 537 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: what is known as Phase two of Donald Trump's twenty 538 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: point plan for finally winding down the war in Gaza. 539 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: And the big news specifically this week is that Phase 540 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: two commences with the establishments of a new quasi government 541 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: of sorts in the Gaza strip is a technocratic Palestinian administration. 542 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: It's known as the National Committee for the Administration of Gaza. Allegedly, 543 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: these folks who are ruling this some folks from the PA, 544 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: the Palatine Authority Mahmunda Bass's group, not particularly moderate, to 545 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: be honest with you, but allegedly, allegedly the individuals in 546 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: charge have been vetted by the United States and by 547 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: israel I. Keep on saying, allegedly and heading my language, 548 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: because I'm frankly not unteally sure how much vetting was 549 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: done here. So the leader of this committee, of this 550 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: new technocratic interim phase to committee to try to rule 551 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: Gaza outside of Hamas. The leader is the former Deputy 552 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: Transportation Minister of the Palatine Authority, a man by the 553 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: name of doctor Ali shaff. He doesn't necessarily seem to 554 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: be a moderate figure. So, for instance, when it comes 555 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: to Palestine, Arab sovereignty over broader parts of the broader 556 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: land of Israel, the Holy Land. He said at one point, quote, 557 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: we need a new vision as Palestine people, to transfer 558 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: the destruction of the war to a resilient environment that 559 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: will lead to liberty, liberty from the Israeli occupation and 560 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: to Palestinian sovereignty on Palestinian lands in the West Bank, 561 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: Gaza Strip and Jerusalem. Ah Jerusalem. He wants to conquer Jerusalem. Great. 562 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: So this is the so called moderate now in charge 563 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: of this technocratic government in stage two. Crazy hoot, how 564 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: about on the use of jihad. So the same guy 565 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: who's the head of the technocracy now kind of sort 566 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: of may be ruling Gaza, doctor Ali shot. When it 567 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: comes to Jiha says quoted, international law gives the right 568 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: to any people that live under the occupation to resist 569 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: that occupation. Here we go again, folks. Earlier in the 570 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: contents of Ice, I was talking about by any means necessary, 571 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: that's this. By any means necessary, that's what he's saying. 572 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: There some moderate Look, we'll see where it goes. Obviously, 573 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: everyone wants the bloodshed to wind down. The fundamental problem 574 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,479 Speaker 1: with this whole ritualistic song and dance, this twenty point plan, 575 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: all of this, I wish nothing with the best. The 576 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: fundamental problem is that you are dealing with profoundly ideological actors. 577 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: These are not rational, calculating figures. They're not the Cold 578 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: War era atheist Soviets whose moves you can basically map 579 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: out using game theory or wargame exercises. You can't predict 580 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: this because they are idiologues. Hamas exists to subjugate all infidels, 581 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: and they define as Jews, Christians and non true supremacist Muslims. 582 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: Good luck in terms of trying to get them to 583 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: bow out of power. By the way, even at this point, 584 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: the stipulated terms for so called Phase two have not 585 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: actually really been many yet, having specifically, the final body 586 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: of a slain Israeli has not actually been returned from 587 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: the Gaza stro This is a Master's sergeant who was 588 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: killed on Ntober sent by the name of Ron Gavilli. 589 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: So the latest is that US intelligence believes that it's 590 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: not Hamas but Palestini Islamic jihad that is currently holding 591 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: his body. Wikaugh saying basically that we don't want to 592 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: allow this to prevent us going to Phase two Gaza. 593 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes. The big thing to me 594 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: is one, be on the lookout for these Jihattis, these 595 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: wolfs in sheep's clothing who are leading this so called 596 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: moderate technocratic committee. That's one major pause we're concerned right now. 597 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: The other is make sure that pro Islamist, pro Muslim Brotherhood, 598 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: pro Hamas actors don't have a presence in Gaza. There's 599 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: don't a lot to talk about Turkey rest of type Ertawa, 600 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: and the leader of Turkey is a fanatical Islamist. Along 601 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: with Katar. Turkey is one of the largest supporters of 602 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: the Muslim Brotherhood, that is the spiritual head of Hamas. 603 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: Why would we give Turkey power in Gaza. Yes, they're 604 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: part of NATO. I don't see why that matters. There's 605 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: absolutely no reason for Turkey to be part of situation 606 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: in Gaza. Absolutely absolutely not. It makes no sense whatsoever, 607 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: God willing things stabilize there in Gaza, God willing the 608 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: notion of Palestinianism, as this Oprah Winfrey style of victimology ends. 609 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: And much as young men these days, a new woman 610 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: can lose weight without ozembic, so too can the Arabs 611 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: build themselves a better life if they are so inclined. 612 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: Thus far, Leaves and Gaza, they have shown very little 613 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: interest in doing that. Before we go for the day, 614 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: I want to briefly touch on this week's tour portions. So, 615 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: as Jews, we read a portion of the five Books 616 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: of Moses Genesis through Deuteronomy every week, and we're getting 617 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of to a really fun part. I mean, objectively, 618 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: it's all holy, it's all amazing, of course, but this 619 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: is a particularly fun part of the tour of the 620 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: five Books Moses. So we are now just in the 621 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: second partia of the second tour portion of the Book 622 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: of Exodus, what we refer to as Parsha Vaira, and 623 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: this is where Moses and his brother Aaron go to 624 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: Pharaoh and they start saying, as you probably heard, let 625 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: my people go. And they say it over and over 626 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: and over again, and Pharaoh just repeatedly says no, repeatedly 627 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: says no. And eventually the staff, the physical staff like 628 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: the walking stick of Aaron most brother, then swallows the 629 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: magic sticks of the Egyptian sorcerers. And this is supposed 630 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: to convince Pharaoh to say, oh, my God, the God 631 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: of the Hebrew people is real, etcetera, etcetera. He still 632 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: doesn't listen, and at that point we get the first 633 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: of the seven of the Ten plagues, the famous ten plagues. 634 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: So the last three will be in next week's tour 635 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: a portion, but the first seven. So, the Nile River 636 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: turns to blood. Swarms of frogs overrun the entire land 637 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: of Egypt. Lice infest all men and beasts, Hordes of 638 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: wild animals invade the cities, A pestilence kills domestic animals, 639 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: Boils afflict the Egyptians. And then for the seventh flake, 640 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: fire and ice continued to descend from the skies in 641 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: the form of a devastating hail. Nonetheless, Pharaoh's heart was 642 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: hardened and it took these three more plagues, including the 643 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: ultimate tenth play, the killing of the first Born, in 644 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: order to convince him to actually let the Israelites go. 645 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: The question that I want to raise and briefly answer 646 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: here in our final moments is this why God, God 647 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: is almighty. Jews and Christians like believe that God is omnipotent, omniscient. 648 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: He is almighty, all powerful. So if the goal here 649 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: of God's goal in the beginning of Exodus is to 650 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: free his chosen people out of bond digit enslavements and 651 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: to bring them back to the chosen land and the 652 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: land that he promised to the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, 653 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: the question is, why couldn't he just do it in 654 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: one fell swoop. Why this painful, painful process, with all 655 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: these ten different plagues. What's the point? The answer, I 656 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: believe is as follows, God is not doing this for 657 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: the Egyptians. He was doing it for the Israelites. It 658 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: was all a bit of an extended act in order 659 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: to increase their faith, their physical awareness that God controls everything, 660 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: that he is almighty. It was an act to increase 661 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: what in Hebrew we've described as Emunah which is faith, 662 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: and vitagne, which is knowledge. In God's omnipotence and omniscients, 663 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: you two can better yourself in life and get away 664 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: from this victimology mentality if you believe with all of 665 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: your emunampta clone your faith and knowledge, that God is real, 666 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: He exists, He loves you, and he cares about you, 667 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: and he wants to make your life better. I'm Josh Hammer. 668 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, folks. We'll be right back on Monday. 669 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 4: The Josh Hammer Show is a member of the Trust Project.