WEBVTT - POTUS at World Cup final, Andy Burnham becomes 7th prime minister in a decade 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to today's podcast, sponsored by Hillsdale College. All Things 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.440 Hillsdale at Hillsdale dot edu. I encourage you to take 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.920 advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.280 course I listen to the Hillsdale Dialogue all of them 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.320 at Hugh for Hillsdale dot com or. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:14.840 Morning Laurie at Evening Grace. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.040 It is the Hugh Hewitt Show, even though it's exactly 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.960 high new here on the West Coast. I'm Alex Marlow, 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.880 host The Alex Marlow Show, editor in chief of brightbur News, 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.040 hosting for my friend and mentor, Hugh Hewitt. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.280 Today and tomorrow. I'll start with the poll. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.240 Okay, and you guys can email me at Low hot 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.120 Alexmarlow dot com. Is she out for two days because 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.240 one he had too many adult beverages watching the World 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.440 Cup as a huge soccer fan yesterday and he's sleeping 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.560 it off. Two he had too much taco bell over 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.640 the weekend, which, by the way, it was the lettuce 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:46.720 of all things that. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.000 Got people sick from taco bell. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.320 Or three that he is speaking at the ALEX event 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.320 in Florida, the American Legislative Exchange Council event. I know 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.000 they sponsored the show, and he'll be broadcasting from there 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.560 live Thursday and Friday. You guys, tell me what you 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.800 think it is, and I'll give you the spoiler. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:02.600 It's the latter. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.760 But I'm here, always honored to be here, and we 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.959 get some great stuff lined up. He does an amazing job. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.080 The producers here really guys are top notch. Tom Cotton's 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.320 going to be here later and Michael Orn as well. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.559 A lot of the conversation will be about Israel and Iran, which, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.479 unfortunately for me, who is very optimistic about the Memorandum 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.840 of Understanding, believing in President Trump and Vice President Vance 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.520 that they could bring the Iranians to the table in 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.320 some capacity, would beat them into enough submission and take 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.640 out enough runs of their apparatus when it comes to 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.920 their leadership that they would be able to force them 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.080 into some sort of a deal. And they just proven 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.280 I guess too challenging at this point. And so now 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.520 we are back into bombing mode. We've now bombed for 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.400 I think eight or nine consecutive days. Unfortunately, another American 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.160 service member killed over the weekend trying to I guess 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.400 dismantle a drone in Iraq, which is a very upsetting. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.559 I wish that did not happen. Up to seventeen guests. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.240 I believe of Americans in this conflict, and the conflict's 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:57.040 going to probably go on. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.360 And we saw oil prices tick up a little bit 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.320 earlier today, though not that much, to be honest with you, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:02.920 I think. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.320 We were fearing two hundred dollars barrel and oil, maybe 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.960 three hundred dollars a barrel oil, and now we're. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.320 Back at ninety ish or so. But this is a 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:11.640 political headwim. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.079 It's something that Republicans are going to have to deal 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.480 with because this is a very important midterm election because 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.600 if President Trump loses the election, it's gonna be NonStop investigations, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.760 it's going to be NonStop impeachment talk, and it's going 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.560 to be empowering the socialist wing of the Democrat Party, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.400 which we'll focus on quite a bit on the show. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:31.960 But I think the message is clear, Iran is not 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.320 playing nice and it is time to do some more bombing. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:35.519 Bombing them in a submission. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.160 But I'm going to ask these guys Orn and Cotton 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.040 when they get here, Michael, Laura and if I dimension 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.840 will be here as well, and when we discuss this, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.440 I'm going to ask them what they think is the 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.280 future of Iran if we are able to facilitate some 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.880 sort of a regime change. And I'm not necessarily talking 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.800 about American boots on the ground and Americans going in 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.920 there and dismantling physically what is left of the Iranian regime, 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.840 which may be necessary, it may be right move. I'm 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.200 open minded at this point, but I want to know 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.119 what takes its place. I want to know what's coming next. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.919 And I want to know if they're convinced that the 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.000 Iranian people are ready to step up, and if so, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:11.880 what's the process to getting them in a place where 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.840 they can actually do that, Because I feel very, very 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.880 skeptical though there'll be some sort of an organized ground 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.320 swell of grassroots effort by the Iranian people to come 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.280 in and establish some sort of a legitimate government. I 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:25.920 think it's gonna be hard to do, but I would 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.400 love to see it, and I would love to chart 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:27.800 a path. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.440 But so long as Iran is playing games with the 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.359 straight up ward moves, it needs to be open for commerce. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:34.200 It just needs to. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.280 That is one of the absolute standards that President Trump 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.520 must have in order to see this as a victory. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.000 It cannot just be that they do not get nuclear weapons, 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:43.200 which of course is fantastic. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.200 We need to have that as a goal. That is 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:45.960 a shared goal. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.680 And if you do not have that goal, you and 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.400 I just have completely different priorities with how you want 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.280 to spend your time with your life and what you 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.760 think the purpose of the American government and military is for. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:59.240 I think a denuclearizing Iran is essential the number one 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.080 priority of any sort of administration that wants to keep 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.880 its people safe. So all good on that front, But 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:06.560 then what do we do to make sure that straight 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.760 stays open? And that will be a question that I'll 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.040 have for Senator Cotton. I'm also going to ask about. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.360 The filibuster, see if there's hope there. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.080 And this is another one where I'm curious from Hughes audience, 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.280 in particular A lohat Alex Marlow dot com. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:18.440 You've got a response to this. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.240 I'm sure all of you watched the Trump speech or 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.320 at least caught clips of Trump's speech where he laid 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.440 out election interference claims, particularly that a lot of America's 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.040 election data was compromised by the Chinese and they got 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.200 access to all sorts of information, but he stopped far 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.760 short of suggesting that the election was rigged by China 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.320 or some other foreign entity. He just did something that 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.599 I think was fairly clever, which is he established flat 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.480 out that our data is vulnerable and that our elections 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.839 are vulnerable, and there's a certain level of cheating that 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.599 takes place. And once you accept there's a certain level 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.600 of cheating that takes place, it's incumbent upon us as 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.880 people who want to preserve our democracy, which is of 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.919 course really a constitute federalists republic, but who want to 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.159 preserve our democracy, it's imperative upon us that we do 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.080 our best to make sure that every opportunity to cheat 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.839 is eradicated. And you saw the hysterical response from so 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.479 many people in the Democrats side of the aisle suggesting 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:19.040 that this is too far revealed, this is impeachable twenty 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.160 fifth Amendment. Trump has gone crazy. These are all lies. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:27.279 Even the great CBS News, which we were concerned might 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.840 be becoming right wing, even they got a bunch of 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.920 stuff wrong. If they covered it at all. Fox was 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.960 reluctant to cover a lot of this stuff. And I 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.159 think this revealed something that's very important here, which is 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.320 that the President, I think is drawing people out to 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.480 see who is actually serious about election integrity. And one 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.840 thing that I'm curious about is that people who have 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:51.960 a more religious attachment to the filibuster in the Senate 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.680 then making sure that we get the Save America Act 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.440 through and people have to bring id to the polls. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.400 And it is a really tough question for a lot 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.800 of Republicans. Republicans who grew up thinking that the filibuster 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.080 was is something that needed to be cherished, need to 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.240 be coddled. We need to treat it like a wounded 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.000 dove and just nurse it back to health. The filibuster 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.520 is so vital and delicate that we need. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:13.560 To protect it at all costs. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.080 And then you're confronted with this thing that, well, if 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.280 we do that, if we choose the filibuster, then we're 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:23.360 choosing it over getting a photo ida and national citizenship 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.680 verification in order to vote in our federal elections. And 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.640 so for me, from my vantage point, I live in 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:34.560 Los Angeles and in California, we get about ten percent 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.039 of the ballots that are sent out and we proactively 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.360 have vote by mail for everyone. Why is that why 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.920 would California have a vote by meil pretty much as 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.279 the default setting instead of having an election day. Obviously 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.640 we know the answer, So there's cheating. So that's why 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.240 we do it. And as many as ten percent people 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.240 estimate of the ballots that are sent out proactively to 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:58.680 Californians are two people who are ineligible to vote. We 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.600 proactively send out ballots to people who are ineligible to vote. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.000 I'll tell you there's a great shout out to Hugh 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.599 because I've been listening to you for over twenty years. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.640 He was the first guy who said the vote by 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.520 mail reality is here and Republicans need to win at it, 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.360 and you need to make sure you vote vote by mail, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.200 You vote early, You make sure your ballot get's in, 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:16.880 so then you don't do about weather, you don't do 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.440 about traffic, you don't have to worry about your kid 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.520 getting a cut on his eyebrow. And as we go 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.560 to the er and get some stitches, you get your 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:24.880 vote in. Huge one of the first. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.320 Guys to do that. We have to figure out how. 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.520 To win elections or else. All the great ideology that 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.120 we bring about, none of it's going to make a difference. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:34.920 And so that is a big question. I'm going to 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:36.600 ask that to some of the guys later on in 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.280 the show. We'll also get into some politics. It looks 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.600 like what's happening in Maine with the just delicious Grand 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.920 Platinum race, which I don't know of all of you 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.760 got to catch clips from the debate featuring the great 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.040 Ashley I think your last name was Webb, who is 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.120 a man who looks like Meatloaf the rock star, maybe 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.520 even a linebacker, and impersonates a woman and actually said, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.880 and this is a earmuffs you've got children, car, But 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.640 this is a person who actually is a male but 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.360 claimed to menstrate out of his rectum. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.520 This is not a joke. This is exactly what was. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.520 Said by actually Web, one of the Democrat candidates who 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.440 is running in Maine to replace Graham Platner. It looks 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.800 like mister Webb, who acts like a woman, will not 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.040 make it across the finish line. And someone named Troy 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.960 Jackson has unofficially locked up the campaign. This is very 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.920 commaa esque. It's very much the Democrat establishment has consolidated 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.160 around one person. He's a longtime Democrat, He's someone who's 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.400 been in the state Senate there and is familiar to 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.480 Maners who are dialed in Democrat politics, but does not 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.680 seem to have a ton in particular to offer. He 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.680 is framing it as working people of Maine. A lot 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.040 of people are framing this is from our revolution. Working 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.440 people of Maine took the nomination their own hands, a 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:56.120 grassroot movement of first time delegates packed all sixteen county meetings, 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.640 So basically this is a community organizing effort to try 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.560 to get a guy that was grassroots but is really 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.640 being propped up and is trying to eliminate more of 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.480 the perception the Democrats are in disarray. They are going 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.560 through a civil war right now. I will have clips 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.960 to support that. They have a lot of tests to 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.760 try to reign in their party from insanity, which is 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.080 what we're witnessing. And this guy, Troy Jackson apparently has 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.040 some very suspect mortgage issues that are going to come 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.679 up on the campaign trail. So maybe the fact of 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.240 the matter is maybe Graham Plattner, with his Nazi tattoo 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.760 and his level voicsters, maybe was their best candidate. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.600 Amazing stuff. Alex Marlowe, I'm in for Hugh Hewitt. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.520 Right, really please to be joined by doctor Michael Orrin 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.840 right now, the former Israeli Ambassador to the US and 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:48.120 the president of the Israel Advocacy Group. Ambassador, thank you 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.320 so much for joining me on the Hit Show today. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.560 I want to start with the Iran War and I 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.760 want to look at what a victory could actually look 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.280 like for the United States. I was someone who is 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.720 optimistic that perhaps the President and was able to come 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.200 up with something with his Memorandum of Understanding. And I 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.199 do think that those like my colleagues Q are their 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.120 takes are raising pretty well that it was always sort 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.560 of impossible to come up with an MoU with the 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.040 country like Iran. Those takes are raging well. But we 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.480 do want to win this thing and we wanted to 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.480 end eventually. What does that look like from your vantage point? 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:20.679 Are you winning it? 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.960 You achieve the five goals Alex that the United States 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.000 and Israel set out at the beginning of this war, 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:32.040 which was ending Iran's nuclear program, shipping abroad the nuclear 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:38.400 stockpile of highly enriched uranium, ending Iran's intercontinental ballistic program, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:43.440 ending Iranian support for terror around the Middle East and 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.440 across the globe, and then as the war progressed, really 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:52.600 additional demand was an end to Irani attempts to control 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.160 or even block shipping of energy car goes through the 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:57.040 strait of her moves. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.280 That's what winning looks like. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.600 Anything short of that maybe partial victory, for example, having 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.280 Iran give up this nuclear program. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.520 I don't think Iran's going to do that. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.559 It's not going to go quietly into that dark night, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:14.319 but that would certainly be a constitute of victory for 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.520 the United States. The victory for Israel would involve also 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.600 cutting off Iran support for Hamas and h Bullah, which 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.200 are threatening US on our borders, or the Hoodie rebels 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.560 in Yemen who are once again closing off their strategic 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:32.760 waterway through the Red Sea, and also firing missiles at 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.600 US at various intimil So there's a big laundry list 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.120 of goals that have to be achieved in order for 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.520 the United States to surely, you know, it's convincingly to 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:44.240 clear victory. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.559 One of the things that has happened that's been a disappointment, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.040 though in retrospect, should not have been unexpected, is it 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.160 Ron was not going to go quietly. And I feel 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.280 like there's two components of this. There's the one that 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:58.280 we could see coming, which is that there ideologically deeply 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.160 committed to the destruction of the US in Israel and 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.080 they're not going to take a loss easily. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:04.280 That's one that we saw. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.080 But the thing that was kind of new was understanding 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.120 how with very little effort they're able to muddy up 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.760 the Strait to make it the commerce can't go through there. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.280 And they are people who pay close attention to American media, 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.080 and they see the way any sort of disruption in 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.840 the Strait is portrayed as a negative for President Trump. 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.559 So what do we do to keep the straight moving? 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.240 Because that's the main thing here that's fresh and new 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.120 that I think people are just considering for the first 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:31.360 time recently. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.280 I think I says is doing exactly what it's doing tonight, 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:40.400 and one is to grade Iran's military ability to interfere 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.760 with shipping through the Strait, certainly to keep up pressure 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.240 military pressure on the Iran by striking strategically important talk 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:53.079 targets in Iran itself and most importantly maintaining that naval blockade. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.800 That naval blockade caused is costing Iran ten and potentially 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.120 hundreds of millions of dollars a day. Eventually, eventually the 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.880 Iranian regime will run out of money, won't even be 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.880 able to pay the salary of its besieged thugs or 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.839 the IRGC soldiers, and it will come back to the 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.480 negotiating table. They're making intimations tonight, Alex if they're willing 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.720 to come back to the negotiating table, and I understand them, 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.000 because they're backs up against the wall. They can declare 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.600 victory all they want, but when people don't have food, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.440 when they don't have electricity, that's when the Iranican regime 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.800 gets really, really sweaty around the collar. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.000 So one of the things that I think is tempting 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.280 for people who think that a massive regime change is 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.040 not going to take place is that it doesn't seem 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:38.560 like there's necessarily an organized resistance to Iran amongst the people. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.079 We know that there are many wonderful Iranian people who 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.880 would like to see the regime topple, but it is 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.160 a big process to get them armed and being and 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.360 have the willpower to overthrow a regime. What does a 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.640 regime change potentially look like in Iran? Because I know 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:54.920 that's all of our hope. I think some of us 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:56.800 would be willing to put boots on the ground to 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.040 do it, others would not. There's a lot of political 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.040 implications because we are in a democratic system, you're in 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.400 the United States. But do you feel like they're easy 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.160 organized resistance in Iran that could potentially step up and 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.160 take the place of the mullas. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.840 Well? That maybe organized resistances in Iran? Certain the Kurds 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.280 are an organized resistance. We've seen We've known about terrorist attacks, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.000 about attacks, not terrors, attacks that have been affected against 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.920 members of the RGC have been assassinated. Who's doing this 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:25.440 nobody knows just yet. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.200 But it is difficult because. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.160 You have a regime that has proven its willingness and 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:35.440 ability within a matter of hours to kill thirty thousand civilians. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.880 It's quite extraordiny when you think about it, within hours, 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.520 and people are I think quite justifiably afraid. And if 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.680 they feel that the United States is not four square 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.040 behind them, that the United States is going to at 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.440 some point basically cry uncle and come back to a 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.320 negotiating table, then they think it's too risky. They're not 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:54.920 going to risk their lives or the lives of their 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:59.600 children to go out into the street. We cannot rule 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.240 out the possibility, Alex, that the regime is going to 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.000 die of its wounds. It has sustained very serious, potentially 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.360 mortal wounds in this war, and it may take a month, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.920 that may take a year or two, but the nam 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.040 may fall as a result of the damage that has 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:16.320 sustained in this campaign. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:17.640 Yeah, and I do. 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.440 I feel like I've read many smart people suggest it 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.160 could be a two year process, and that's something that 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:22.600 will take a. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:23.840 Lot of political willpower. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.840 I think President Trump has proven that he's willing to 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.560 go against the grain in this regard, and even if 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.080 he feels like he's it's an unpopular war, if he 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.880 feels like it's justified, I think he would stay the course. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.920 But that's a long battle in terms of pr So 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.600 what is your hope for the Trump administration? What do 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.600 you believe is the best policy going forward? 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.280 Well, I to read it, I think the best policy 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.640 is the one they're pursuing right now, which is the 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.440 combination of kinetic action with the naval blockade, and that's 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.880 what will bring the negotiations back to the table. Then 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.440 what happens when they come back to the table and 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.480 do the running still feel that they have the upper 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.680 hand and they go siations they can dictate the terms. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.280 In no way can the United States allow Iran to 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.520 maintain its or fulfill its claims to sovereignty go the 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.600 Straits fromost. No way can Iran retain its nuclear stockpile 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.600 or its nuclear facilities. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.040 That's crucial, crucial. ISRAE would also like to. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.040 See at the end of the ballistic program and the 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.840 support for terror, and the administration has taken a very 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.680 important step already in brokering a peace agreement between Israel 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.320 and Lebanon. The President of Lebanon has in Washingt today 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.800 mister Own meeting with Secretary of State Rubio and others. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:33.640 That's very important. 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.720 This is a man who's taken a big, big gamble. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.600 Two previous Iranian Lebanese presidents who try to make peace 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.120 with us for assassinated that he's putting his life. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:42.600 On the line for this. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.560 But at the end of the day, Lebanon is not 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.720 strong enough to overcome his bullaup. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.400 Only by defeating Iran. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.120 It's Lebanon his bud sponsor. Can that happen and Lebanon 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.520 can be truly free, sovereign and make peace with US. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.360 Doctor Micha Lauren, former Israel is really ambassador to the 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:01.080 United States. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.240 The Israel Adovac Group is his group. He's the president, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:04.000 thea ambassador. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.359 I wish we had more time. Hopefully we can do 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.840 this again soon. I'm Alex Marlow in for Hue and 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:08.119 we'll be. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:09.000 Right back for back of. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.560 The You Huge Show with Alex Marlow. Grateful to be 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.720 in for Hugh today. Senator Tom Cotton is on the 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.080 line with me from Arkansas. Senator, great to talk to 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.480 you again, and I want to start with something where 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:20.800 I think you and I probably have a lot in 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.200 common on this one that it sounds like you're blocking 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.800 the daylight savings bill in the that came through the house. 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.880 I'm very negative on permanent daylight savings, but I want 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.960 to get your sense of why you're blocking it and 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:32.919 what your objection is. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.800 Hey, Alex, good to be back on the air with you, 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.280 this time on a Hughes show in the afternoon. Always 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.199 enjoyed being on your show as well. 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:40.560 Thank you. 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:47.680 So I understand that all Americans hate changing the clock. 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.040 I hate changing the clock, but I think you have 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.800 to think through the second order implications Alex of what 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:58.280 permanent daylight savings time would mean. It may sound great 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.000 in the summer months, and it may sound great if 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:03.879 you live in Florida and you like to play golf, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.240 But if you live in Mintonville, Arkansas, the sun wouldn't 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.120 come up in the depths of winter until well after 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.199 eight o'clock, maybe even eight thirty. And that's just in 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.320 northwest Arkansas, Alex. There are places throughout the Midwest and 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.480 the Rocky Mountain States that wouldn't see the sun untill 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:23.240 nine nine thirty, almost tennant falk in some cases like Indianapolis, 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:29.359 Grand Rapper Rapids here challis spell that would be very dangerous, 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.639 especially for kids who are walking to school, bucking the school, 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.600 being left a bus stops and Alex, you don't have 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.240 to take my word for it either. You can simply 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.679 learn the lesson of history. Congress did this once before. 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.480 In nineteen seventy three, Congress made daylight saving time and permanent. 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:50.000 It was very popular, seventy nine percent approval in December 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.960 of nineteen seventy three, and then February in nineteen seventy 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.360 four it had fall into forty two percent approval. Why 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.440 because people had experienced daylight saving time in the depth 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.479 of winter. In fact, Congress almost immediately repelled it more 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.480 than three hundred and eighty votes in the House and 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.399 unanimously in the Senate. So you know I have to 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.760 take my word or forecast for it. I think we've 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.840 just learned the lessons of history here. It's true that 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.600 I've opposed in the past. My position hasn't changed. I 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.960 can tell you many other Senators are opposed to as well. 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.200 From the states you would expect, frankly, in both targets. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:22.720 This is one of those issues that is more of 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.000 a regional issue than it is a part of a issue. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.679 I am totally the same page with you on that, 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.639 and maybe I'll share some of my personal thoughts with 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.440 the audience after your off the year with me, Senator. 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.840 But what happens to the bill now? What do you 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:37.800 think is the future of it? Because you and I 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.720 share the same rationale, But what about it getting through. 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:45.119 I don't expect it to pass the sentiment, Alex And again, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.560 I think this is one of those issues that seems 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.879 attractive at first glance, and sometimes a House acts at 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.520 first glance and with a sober second thought and considering 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.920 all the implications as happened to the entire country in 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.320 nineteen seventy four, or you realize that what appealed at 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.439 first glance is not that appealing on second thought. So 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.560 I don't expect it to pass the Senate, all right. 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.200 I want to move to the Iran War. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.159 You've said that Trump is right to unleash hell on 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.600 the killers, and I think we're all in agreement on 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.159 that that iron is very bad. But the path forward 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.159 seems kind of bleak. It seems like maybe the best 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.520 path forward could take years perhaps to execute. Give me 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.679 your perspective on the state of the war itself at 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.680 the moment, and what are the various avenues that could 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:32.200 be pursued. 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.439 Well, Alex, I don't think we're looking at years. It 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:42.240 has taken longer than was initially hoped in March. That's 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:46.520 important because we had paused in April and we had 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.159 a ceasefire that lasted for about pretty months. 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:50.439 You know. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.760 The intensive negotiations happened over the last couple of weeks 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.439 of June, first week of July, after the Vice President 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.440 and Jared Kushner and Steve What had negotiated the memorandum 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.160 of understanding, but Ron obviously blew that up. They blew 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.159 it up well, trying to blow up ships in the 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.040 straight of her moves and attacking our troops throughout the region, 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.159 indicating as the President said, that they have no interest 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.879 and even a short term interim deal, much less a 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:19.080 comprehensive deal would be nuclearized as well. So I think 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:20.639 we should probably go back to where we were in 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.560 early April when the first seas fire started and just 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:28.360 allow our Central Command forces to finish their operational plans. 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.520 At the time, they were forecasting three or four more 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.200 weeks to lay waste to the rest of Iran's military 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.000 and to knock the Revolutionary Guard for back even further. 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.480 And at that point, I think we keep the blockade 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.760 in place that deprives are on of almost a half 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.439 billion dollars a day, and we say that the Strait 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:48.960 is going to be open under our supervision. Really we 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:50.919 weren't doing that a lot in May and June. It 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.400 just wasn't widely known or announced until the President made 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.199 it known last month. We're getting several million barrels of 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.720 oil ounce to the southern Omani side of the Strait 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.840 each night. We could keep doing that. Iran has the 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.440 ability to harash shipping, but not to stop shipping. I 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:08.640 think those are the steps forward, Alex and I think 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.480 that would be good for our national security. It would 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:15.240 be good for Americans so they're not paying a lot 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.680 for gas or diesel at the top, and it would 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.480 give a chance that thanks to the kind of simmer 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.560 inside of Iran, because one thing we know is that 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.639 this regime is wildly unpopular. Millions of people took the 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:28.560 streets in January, and now with the death of the 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:32.560 Supreme Leader at the start of this campaign, the regime 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.320 doesn't even have a thin veneer of religious authority either. 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:40.480 So I think we should finish our operational plans, keep 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.280 the blockade in place, keep the straight open, and then 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.400 kind of let things play out over the next two 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:46.040 and a half years. 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.520 Do you've hoped that the Iranian people will be able 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.560 to step up and replace them all as at some point, 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.560 because it's another one from my perspective where I'm trying 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:54.240 to find some sort of a middle ground. It just 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.240 seems it's so hard with the Iranians to find any 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.199 sort of a middle ground. But I'm not optimistic that 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.920 there is a robust movement to replace them all as 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:03.520 once we achieve. 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:08.040 Victory here, well, Alex, these things often seem impossible and 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.520 can quickly become inevitable. Now, I'm not predicting or forecasting that, 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.359 but i will tell you. I will tell you a story. 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.600 And this is not from the animal's history. This is 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.000 less than two years ago. When we left town for 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.200 Thanksgiving in twenty twenty four, we had no idea that 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.520 when we got back after Thanksgiving, Bachelor Alisaud would be 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:28.720 sitting in a luxury condo in Moscow. And that's not 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.960 even the fault our intelligence agencies for failing to see 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.080 what would happen on the span of ten days. I'm 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.320 just saying sometimes these things are very hard, and these 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.080 organic movements can spring up and it's very hard to 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.359 detect them. You saw that at the end of the 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.439 Cold War as well. So again I'm not predicting or 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.560 forecasting it. I'm just saying that it's happened enough throughout 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.200 history to include recent history, and I don't thing we 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.760 can rule it out. When a government is as unpopular 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:54.400 as a rods is with its own people, and those 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.680 people are struggling as badly as the running people are 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.120 because of the grossness management, greed, and for option of 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.600 Ron's rulers over the last forty seven years. 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.159 Senator, the President gave a speech from the White House 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.200 last week, and it was really a challenge to the Senate. 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.360 It was basically choose between standing. 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.639 By the filibuster the way it is now or passing 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.760 the Save America Act, which I believe would take great 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:22.800 strives towards protecting American election and integrity. Give me your 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:26.520 perspective on the filibuster and why it seems like you 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.880 as well as your colleagues are pre inclined to keep 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.320 it in place versus getting the Save America Act through, 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:34.120 and give me some nuance in some detail on your 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:34.600 thinking on this. 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:34.879 Please. 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.520 Yeah. So, Alex, on the filibuster, the reality of it 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.440 is that we just we don't have the votes to 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.359 eliminate it. We're not going to have the votes to 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.439 eliminate it. I've got to work with the reality of 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.800 the matter. And there's nothing we've been new to make 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.960 senators vote, certainly, and I don't think most of the 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.160 audience would want their senators to be made to vote 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.520 in ways that didn't represent their states and we do 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.160 have a lot of Senators who come from states that 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.600 do rely on mail in balloting. Does it I don't 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:05.240 think we should. I don't like it, but a lot 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.399 of Republicans do represent states that have melon balloting, and 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.919 the Republican parties have worked that process hard. In some cases, 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.639 their campaigns have worked at hard as well. I do 0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:16.640 think we would have a majority and perhaps a fill 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.400 up uster proof majority the pass a voter ID law, 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.200 and I think that would also go a long way 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.359 towards solving some of the problems with mail and balliding. So, 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.520 for instance, in Arkansas, if you if you want to 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.359 vote as an excused absentee ballot, you also have to 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:33.360 include a photocopy of your photo identification. So I think 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.320 that's one bang that we could pursue, and I hope 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.800 we do. The alternative is doing what Speaker Johnson is 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:39.320 doing this where he hopefully he can pass. 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.239 The Senator I'm working. 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Watch Saturday and Sunday at seven pm 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.199 Eastern on Salem News Channel. 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.040 Our London editor at Brightbar News, aulver Lane, does some 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.560 of the best reporting in all of Europe in my view, 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.840 and I'm somewhat biased, but he does a terrific job. 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:48.480 And Oliver, you're the perfect guy to talk to you 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:49.520 about Andy Burnham. 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.400 Who is this guy? Where did he come from? Why 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:53.280 does he look like that? 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.280 Maybe we'll focus on that later, and why is he 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.600 taking drive bys on Margaret Thatcher. He's been the job 0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.480 for four minutes and not having been elected. Are that 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.240 to come in the next couple of segments here, But 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:03.720 let's start with who is this person? 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.680 Yeah, Andy Burnham, a former government minister back in the 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.520 Tony Blair Gordon Brown era. That's really reaching back. He 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.040 had ten years out of Westminster politics, went to be 0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:16.640 the mayor of Manchester. 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.480 Some call it Britain's second city. It's certainly in the running. 0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.560 For that, and that in a way as far as 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.440 the Labor Party is concerned, makes him the perfect person 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.600 to take over as he has done today, because of course, 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.960 so many people in Labor are tainted with failure, attainted 0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:36.040 with association with the past two years, the Kiir Starmer years, 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.720 they haven't been great for the party. So to get 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:42.160 somebody with some governing experience from what they think of 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:46.080 probably as happier early days the Blair Brown years not 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:47.680 very happy for the rest of us. But I think 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.800 Labor people look upon it well. So as I say, 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.959 who has that governing experience from back then but has 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.880 been out of the milieu for a while, I'm sure 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.239 to them, to the leading people in Labor, he is 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.000 the perfect guy and they've certainly treated it that way. 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:06.600 As you say, no national election, no party platform, no 0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.040 pitches to the public. This was a bloodless coup. This 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.560 was a coronation and now he's that Prime minister. 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.520 So let's talk about the fact that he's unelected, which 0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.840 means his platform has not been tested. I want to 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.400 get into the attribute of the platform. And Nigel Faraj, 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.400 who is waiting in the wings licking his chops for 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.000 lack of a better expression, immediately passed on that. 0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:29.840 Yeah, absolutely and rightly so. 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:34.720 And you say his platform hasn't been tested, We don't 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.240 know what that is. The fact is, if you talk, 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.360 if you take a look at what the legacy media 0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.720 is saying, Let's let's be honest. This guy is a 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.400 legacy political character. Maybe it's worth listening to what the 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.720 legacy media have to say. And the sort of one 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.400 of the takeaways is that he changes his mind a lot. 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.360 It's you know, he's not been a solid guy on 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.680 any wing of the Labor Party for the past twenty 0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.200 thirty years, however long it's been. So we're kind of 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.920 getting an unknown entity like who's been whispering in his 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.040 ear recently? Where is his head at? He gave a 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.320 speech today on the steps of Downing Street as a tradition, 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.400 and he laid out a bunch of stuff and it 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:11.400 was broad Strokes. 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:12.719 There wasn't a lot of detail. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.400 There was certainly no detail on how these polities are 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.840 going to get paid for. But it's kind of like 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.400 labour best hit stuff. I'm not seeing a lot of 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:24.040 really astonishing new ideas. But as you say, he's kind 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.640 of playing this back to the future retro playbook. He 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.760 wants to make this all about this David and Goliath 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.360 struggle against the ghost of Thatcherism, and of course, you know, 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.960 God bless her immortal memory, Baroness Thatcher has been dead 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.640 for these ten years, fifteen years or more, she's been 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.720 out of power for thirty five years. And still that's 0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.320 what he's making his leadership all about. 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.960 Quite extraordinary, and this is direct and I alluded to this. 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:51.280 He calls out Thatcher in the opening speech or what 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.320 do you say? And also what's the larger here because 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.400 the problem facing the UK right now absolutely easier of 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.400 them have to do with Margaret Thatcher. 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.240 Well, it's an interesting one. So you're why is he 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.600 doing this? I think it plays very well for him 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.440 with like traditional labor heartlands that labor, let's be honest, 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.440 have been doing really badly with in the past few years. 0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.360 And Nigel Farrag has been doing very well there and 0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.720 I think it's also worth considering that until relatively recently, 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.720 it's probably fair to say that Nigel Ferrag himself was 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.959 like the last living, true proponent proponent of Thatcherism. So 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.640 it's easy, I think, an easy message for Burnham to 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:34.440 take to these northern post working class if you want 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.080 to put it that way seats and say thatcher was 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.840 the devil. She still is the devil. Nigel Farage wants 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:41.160 to bring that devil back and I'm going. 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.440 To stop him. The problem is this is really totally unreasonable. 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.120 As I say, Fatriism is long gone, this is no 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.840 longer a factor in British politics. And Nigel Forude himself, 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.520 as I say, like the last yeah, the last night 0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.800 riding to that banner, told Breitbart News years ago now 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:02.760 that he considers it answers for the past, the issues 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.480 that Thatcherism dealt with, That was a problem for the 0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.600 nineteen seventies, she dealt with that in the eighties and 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.200 the actual problems facing normal people in Britain. Now it's 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:17.000 not about capitalism versus socialism, it's about the people versus corporatism, 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:18.480 big business. 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.000 And I think he's absolutely right to do that. 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.080 So I think if we look talking about where politics 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.040 in Britain goes now, let's say over the next five years, 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.320 next two and a half years to the next general election, 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.479 I think there's going to be an almost a proper 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:34.840 gander battle between Nigel ferrag and Andy Burnham for who 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.400 is going to seem the most legitimate, the most real, 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.920 the most down to earth with those, as I say, 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.960 post working class voters in post industrial towns, to say 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.720 we can reindustrialize, we can bring these areas back, we 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.960 can take back control. And these opening moves today that 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.600 you've alluded to with these like kind of weird out 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.720 of time references to Thatcher, that's Burnham building that up. 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.080 So, Aliva, when we come back from the break, what 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:00.600 I'm going to have you knew is I'm going to 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.400 have you get into me, get into with me. What 0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.280 President Trump said to the incoming prime minister. I think 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:07.080 he wants them. 0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:08.560 To maybe real baby drill. 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.279 Perhaps I'm going to get a sense of is there 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.760 a path for Farage to become the next prime minister, 0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.760 and whether or not this guy's going to be rehabilitating 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:18.799 the left with a bunch of NGO funding all that 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:24.320 to come on the Q Huge Show with Me Alex Marlow. 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.239 Back to business on the Hugh Huge Show. 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.640 Alex Marlow here, editor in chief of bright Bart News 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.360 and host of The Alex Marlow Show. Usually wherever you 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.000 hear Hugh just about all the same stations, almost a 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.600 exact overlap in the ven diagrams. Thank you for joining 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.800 me today and thanks to Hugh as always for allowing 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.840 me into the Captain's chair. My London bureau chief for 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.680 Brightbart News, Oliver Lane, is with me for another segment, 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.440 and Oliver, I want to get into what we know 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.680 about Andy Burnham, the new Prime Minister, and first of all, 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.120 his platform. I'm just going to do some spoilers here. 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.439 Didn't look like he's talking about immigration at all. Maybe 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.120 the number one problem facing the UK right now, their 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.759 energy crisis that they're in. It seems like he's a 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.400 guy who's reliant on win, focused on net zero. 0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.399 He wants to deal with homelessness. Okay, great, but what's 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.560 the plan. Get into what we know about his agenda 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:10.200 thus far? 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.840 Yeah, I have to emphasize we know so little, but 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.520 you have picked up on basically the best place is 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.840 to start. You started with immigration, the mass migration problem 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.960 that the UK faces, just like so many European countries. 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:27.040 I was crunching some figures earlier today, getting preparation for this, 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.000 and I find it incredible. The population of the United 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.759 Kingdom has increased by something like ten million since the 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.799 nineteen eighties, but the white British population of the United 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:37.920 Kingdom is actually less now than it was in nineteen 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.120 eighty one. Now, the important thing about that is it 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.320 shows a degree to which mass migration is driving population growth. 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.080 And what does that drive great It drives property prices, 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.040 because of course there's a finite number of houses. 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.600 In this country. We aren't building very money. 0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:51.920 With more and more people, there's more and more demand 0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.080 and that goes the same Nigel Farage talks about this 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.800 all the time. Demand on roads, schools, hospitals, every single 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:02.400 conceivable public service under greater strain as higher costs, and 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:06.000 this is driving a part of our cost of living crisis. 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:06.839 Is what we call it over here. 0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.560 So this is a very important subject matter, and that 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.840 all that rolls into is how important is to British people. 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.319 If you look at the polling people being asked this 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.040 country like twice a week. What are the most important 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.480 political areas to you? Migration is number one, number two, 0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:27.000 number three every month going back for fifteen years. This 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.360 is no small thing. And did Andy Burnham talk about 0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.480 it today, No, not a word. Reforming UK picked up 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.399 on that right to do so some interesting developments there though. 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.480 I mean, this is happening as we're talking now, and 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.000 we're going to get more on this through the night. 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.680 Burnham is now selecting his cabinet ministers, those people who 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.960 are going to hold those offices within the government. And 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.400 he's chosen his Home Secretary and guess what, it's the 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:49.000 same one. 0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:49.800 As the last government. 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.880 So he's keeping Starmer's Home Secretary, Shabarnamer Mood, and that 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.279 is a signal because Shabanama Mood wein labor and I 0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.399 have to clarify this is as far as left people 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.520 are concerned, she's a migration hardliner. To you and me, 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.239 it's a laughable of thought to think of her as 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.759 a migration hardliner. But as far as the left wing 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:13.279 government goes, she's possibly the most hardline Interior minister Home 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:14.600 Secretary we could possibly hope for. 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.120 So there's something there. There's at least a hope. 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.000 So there's already talk about dealing with homelessness, which, again, 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.120 we all want to deal with homelessness, but this ends 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:23.759 up being, at least in my neck of the words, 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.840 out in Los Angeles, California, whenever we talk homelessness, we 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:28.840 end up talking a bunch of money going out the 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.160 door from taxpayers to left wing NGOs with zero results 0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:33.240 into your accountability. 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.719 What's your expectation here, Yeah, this. 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.000 Is such a difficult topic to talk about because you know, 0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.920 we want homelessness to be solved, that we want there 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.160 to be answers to this, and it seems like there 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.000 are only two answers that neither of them are actually 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:46.399 very good. 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.040 And you and I were talking about this earlier. 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.160 There's the Paris Olympics approach, where you send in the 0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:53.440 police and put homeless people in the backs of lorries 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.600 and move them to camps outside the city. I don't 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.040 like the sound of that very much. That seems a 0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.239 bit authoritarian. And then there's the left wing throw of 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.600 the problem. You know, feed those NGOs make them more. 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:04.400 Powerful and richer. 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.400 Doesn't actually seem to fix anything, but I guess it 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.680 makes you feel better about yourself. So It's interesting that 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:16.919 Andy Burnham, again no party policy platform, no manifesto, surprises 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.920 us almost with when he stands before Downing Street, the 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.520 Executive Mansion, if you can call it that, this afternoon, 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.200 he says, the first thing I do when I walk 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:27.000 in that door is I'm going to fix homelessness. Like 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.359 he can click his finger and make it go away. Now, 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.040 we're not aware he has any policy for that. So 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:33.640 how's he going to make it work? 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.680 Yeah, but it's good campaigning. It's just announcing platitudes. It's 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.080 always worked for liberal people. 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:38.680 Okay. 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.960 So the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:42.759 he has a couple of things on his mind that 0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.200 we know about. He wants the UK to ramp up 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.640 defense spending, and he wants them to work on their 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.600 energy crisis and to stop focusing on wind and net 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.040 zero and start getting some of the rich energy resources 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.439 underneath their feet which they do not tap, and get 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.440 that going because that does again, it does one of 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.160 those things where if there is more abundant flow of 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.080 energy around the world, it helps American energy prices, which 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:06.720 is on his mind for obvious reasons. 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:08.680 Do you see any potential. 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:11.120 For that for more defense spending and more tapping of 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.480 natural resources. 0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.839 It's it's amazing. That's like basic economics one O one. 0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.960 Increase the supply and the price of the demand will fall. 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.560 Look, I learned economics at Berkeley and they still manage 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:23.120 to teach that. 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.200 It's they're one of the ones where Berkeley. 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:26.920 Even at Berkeley. 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.080 So yeah, this this is something that President Trump has 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.560 been hitting the UK with for a long time because 0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.319 it's so incredibly obvious. He is so very obviously right, 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:40.160 but British government after British government has been incredibly resilient 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.480 to it. Now I'm just going to mention here that 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.640 there was a call between the new Prime Minister Burnham 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.560 and President Trump this afternoon, first telephone call that Burnham 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.520 made in office, so that's always a good sign. And 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.360 he has said that he wants to support, you know, 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.600 the transatlantic relationship and you know, the usual platitudes. So 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.279 that's goody out of the door. It doesn't seem like 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.759 a total le this nutcase. So we don't know what's 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.560 talking about in that. We haven't had the redoubts yet. 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.520 But as you allude to, there have been other messages 0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:10.400 going to and from between Washington and London over the weekend. 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.960 We had this I think pretty extraordinary intervention from President 0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.279 Trump right there, just before Burnham gets his foot in 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.640 the door, to say, by the way, and there's that 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.839 word again, you have a cost of living crisis, and 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:25.960 parts of that it's not just mass migration. Part of 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.720 it is energy is really really expensive. In the United Kingdom, 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.320 we have some of the most expensive energy on Earth, 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.880 and we have, as you say, Alex, all of this 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.719 wonderful gas and oil underneath our feet. My goodness, we 0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.279 even have coal we can frack if we wanted to. 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.680 And the problem is the government we've had under Sekiss 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.960 Starma hitherto to this point, has been absolutely dedicated to 0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.160 net zero, this idea that we should decarbonize, we should 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.440 leave it all under our feet. This leaves us in 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.120 this weird paradoxical situation where we're having this like transition 0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:02.560 allegedly between carbon fuel and green energy, you know, solar 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.719 panels and winter turbines, that sort of thing, And we're 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.560 not drilling for what's under our feet, but we are 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.399 importing it from Norway, our next door neighbors, who get 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.040 it from exactly the same place that we would underneath 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.439 the North seat. It's completely mad. Donald Trump can see 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.239 the insanity and he's been saying very clearly, stop being 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:18.920 so stupid. 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:20.799 Just drill oh right out. 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:23.800 Forty five seconds. What is the path forward for Nigel Farage, 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:25.879 hopefully the next prime minister or how do we pull 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:26.279 it off? 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.400 This is the maximum moment of maximum danger because I 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.000 think British people in general, even people who aren't that 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.360 into politics, are very fair minded. And I think we'll 0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:40.320 have what we had with Sakis Starmer, a terrible prime minister, 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.520 let's be clear, but he had a little bump in 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.040 the polls after he became PM. I think people said 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:46.759 to him, we want to give you a go. I 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.520 think they're going to do the same now to Burnham, 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.200 even if they don't know who he is. If it 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.279 calls a snap election, it could be a diicy moment 0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.600 for Farage. He would otherwise be the next Prime Minister 0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:56.440 of the United Kingdom. 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.160 Last word for me, he looks like he is out 0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.319 of Central asking for a British prime minister. If that's 0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.200 one of Trump's lines he likes to use in Central 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.399 Casie I learned is real thing Oliver Land amazing stuff. 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.480 Read everything he writes at Breitbart London. I'm Alex Marlow 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:10.359 and we'll be right back.