1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to this week on Capitol Hill. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: You're insider's guide to the story shaping Washington and the world. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: I have Tony Perkins. Washington reopened its doors this week 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: after a brief government shutdown, But the question is for 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: how long. 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: We've got a now one week and one day time 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: frame in which to do this, which is entirely unrealistic, 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: and a Democrat party in both the House and the 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Senate which seems a lot less interested in getting a 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: solution to this than they do and having a political issue. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: I was Sentate Majority Leader John Thune. 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: Newsmack's chief Washington correspondent James Rosen joins us to break 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: down what this means and whether another shutdown is already looming. 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: On the world stage, the US and Iran are back 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: at the table. Secretary of State Marco Rubio outlines the 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: administration's position as. 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: Far as the topic of those discussions at what the 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: agenda needs to be look I think in order for 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: to to actually lead to something meaningful, they will have 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 4: to include certain things, and that includes the range. 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Of their ballistic missiles. 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 4: That includes their sponsorship of terrorist organizations across the region, 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: That includes a nuclear program, and that includes the treatment 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 4: of their own people. 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: US Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee joins us to discuss 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: what Israel. 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: Needs to see from these talks. 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: This week also mark the National Prayer Breakfast here in Washington, 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: d C. But just ahead of it, thousands gathered here 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: and across the nation for the National Gathering for Prayer 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: and Repentance co founded four years ago by now Speaker 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: of the House Mike Johnson. 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 5: Let us not forget what the foundations are, the moral consensus, 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 5: the moral foundation, the biblical foundation of our country that 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 5: has been. 36 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Imperiled in recent generations, but. 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 5: That we declare that we will defend and restore, We 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: survive upon that. We are grateful for the profound blessing 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 5: we have to be Americans. 40 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: Speaker Johnson joins us later, and message is simple. The 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: city cannot have too much prayer. And a stunning reversal 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: from the American Medical Association. After lobbying against laws protecting 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: children from gender transition surgeries, the AMA now says the 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: evidence does not support surgical interventions for minors. 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: What changed and why now? 46 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: Doctor Quentin Van Meter, former president of the American College 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 2: of Pediatricians, joins us later all of that and more 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: straight ahead on this week on Capitol Hill. On Tuesday, 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: President Trump signed into law a government funding package, bringing 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: an end to the brief government shutdown that began the 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: previous Saturday. The bill fully funds government agencies through September, 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: with one key exception. The Department of Homeland Security remains 53 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 2: funded only through February thirteenth, due to Democrats' objections regarding 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: ice and border patrol operations. With DHS funding in the balance, 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: So are we headed for another standoff? Joining me now 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: to discuss this is newsmac's chief Washington correspondent James Rosen. 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: James, welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 6: Always great to be with you. Thank you, Tony. 59 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: All right, So this brief government shutdown has ended. Twenty 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: one Democrats cross the aisle to get this across the 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: finish line. How did this come together? And is this 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: going to be another grounds all day? Are we going 63 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: to see it again? 64 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 6: I think this ceaseless parade of and I'm going to 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 6: mix my metaphors here, but this ceaseless parade of fiscal 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 6: cliffs is probably very high, if not the number one 67 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 6: thing on the list of things that leads to the 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 6: extremely low approval ratings for Congress as an institution on 69 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 6: the part of the American people, plunging just when you 70 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 6: think you couldn't get any lower decade after decade, because 71 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 6: it is the most basic function of the United States 72 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 6: Congress to keep the government running, and the difficulties that 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 6: are manifest in that simple task seem to be compounding 74 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 6: with each decade, and these shutdowns are becoming more frequent, 75 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 6: although this one was mercifully brief, but as you mention, 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 6: we face another imminent possibility of a shutdown because the 77 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 6: deal that was hashed out between the White House and 78 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 6: Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill provided that all of 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 6: the agencies would be fully funded through fiscal year twenty 80 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 6: twenty six, which I believe means through September, which is 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 6: another cliff that we'll be facing down the line, but 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 6: with one exception, and that is, as you mentioned, the 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 6: Department of Homeland Security, and there the Democrats Senate Democrats, 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 6: led by Chuck Schumer, the minority leader, have pressed a 85 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 6: number of demands for what should happen with respect to ICE, 86 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 6: the very controversial agency which is sort of lead at 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 6: the tip of the spear in President Trump's deportation programs 88 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 6: and his immigration policies in general, and those demands from 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 6: Senator Schumer and the Democrats include an number of things, 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 6: such as the idea that the ICE agents should no 91 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 6: longer be allowed to wear masks when they perform these operations, 92 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 6: that there should be no intrusions into homes without warrants, 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 6: and so forth. It's interesting to note that the Trump administration, 94 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 6: in the wake of all of the commotion and sadly 95 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 6: the deaths out in Minneapolis, has already agreed to one 96 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 6: of these demands from the Democrats, and we saw the 97 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 6: DHS Secretary Christy Nome announce this during the week that 98 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 6: hereafter all of these ICE agents will be wearing body cans. 99 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 6: And I think that's an important step. Whether it mollifies 100 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 6: the Democrats, whether it gets us past the February thirteen 101 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 6: deadline is unclear. I would just point out, as someone 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 6: who's been here a long time as you have, Tony, 103 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 6: that in some respects, while ICE is the immediate proximate 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 6: cause for this standoff right now, this debate over DHS 105 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 6: and about law enforcement powers really kind of mirrors the 106 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 6: debates that were attendant at the creation of DHS in 107 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 6: the wake of nine to eleven, when we were also 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 6: debating the Patriot Act. It so happens that now law 109 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 6: enforcement is being trained on illegal immigration to a larger 110 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 6: degree than back then. But the concerns expressed by the 111 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 6: Senate Democrats about the limits of police powers, the arguments 112 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 6: made in response by the Republicans and the White House, 113 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 6: it has to carry some echoes of the post nine 114 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: to eleven debates that we saw when DHS was first 115 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 6: stood up. 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: Remember that, I remember that quite well, James. So I 117 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: want to there's a bigger issue here too, even over 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: police powers. It is when you go back to these 119 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: government shutdowns, as you pointed out, are becoming more regular, 120 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: it is it shows the ideological divide in our country 121 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: and how narrow the area of agreement really is. 122 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 6: I would say that, of course, it shows us that, 123 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 6: and that's been manifest to anyone with eyes, certainly since 124 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 6: the nineties when we first started to hear about gridlock 125 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 6: as a term, and that very word gridlock conjures now 126 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 6: three decade old images of Bill Clinton and Nut Gingrich. 127 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 6: The gridlock today, and I think this is in part 128 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 6: driven by social media is intra party, and the reward structures, 129 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 6: the incentive structures have been eroded considerably over the years 130 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 6: for backbenchers to fall in line behind their own leadership. 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 6: Now the reward structure can just as often, or the 132 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 6: incentive structure can just as often lead a backbench member 133 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 6: of a given party in Congress to defy his leadership 134 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 6: more readily than to fall in line. And it's been 135 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 6: said to me by a great old hand on Capitol Hill, 136 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 6: the only election that lawmakers care about is their next 137 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 6: primary election. And that speaks to this intra party strife. 138 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 6: In the Conservative movement, you see it between so called 139 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 6: never Trumper's and MAGA. But on the left in the 140 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: Democratic Party, you see it between the squad members, the 141 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 6: hardcore Progressives, and the more centrist Democrats. And I think 142 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 6: that these shutdowns have as much to do with intra 143 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 6: party conflict today as they previously may have had to 144 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 6: do with inter party conflict. 145 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Very perceptive. 146 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 7: I think you're absolutely right. 147 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: I want to get to you have an announcement something 148 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: coming up with you next week. But before I get 149 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: to that very quickly, do you see a resolution over 150 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: this short term funding for DHS? 151 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 6: Well, I can't improve upon the assessment of the Senate 152 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 6: Majority leader whose clip we played in the introduction to 153 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 6: this segment, a Senator fun who called it an unrealistic timetable. 154 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 6: I don't know anyone in Washington who sees a ready 155 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 6: off ramp for this debate and for this funding to 156 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 6: go forward. But we've seen the Trump White House in 157 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 6: two point zero make use of shutdowns and fiscal cliffs 158 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 6: and funding disputes in a fundamentally different way than previous 159 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 6: white Houses have. And they have used those kinds of 160 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 6: gaps in funding and these fiscal cliff situations to punish 161 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 6: the Democrats, to punish blue states, blue state programs through 162 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 6: the White House Office of Management and Budget, and they're 163 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 6: very savvy about it, and to some extent ruthless. So 164 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 6: if there is going to be a resolution, I suspect 165 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 6: that that could potentially put the parties together a little 166 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 6: more swiftly. 167 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: James, just have a little over a minute to go. 168 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: Next week marks the release of your second volume in 169 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: your biography of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, titled Scalia 170 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: Supreme Court Years nineteen eighty six to two thousand and one. 171 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: Tell us about the book and how readers can find it. 172 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 6: You're so good to mention it, Tony. This is, as 173 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 6: you say, the second installment of what is a three 174 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 6: volume biography of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. It's called 175 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 6: Scalia Supreme Court Years nineteen eighty six to two thousand 176 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 6: and one. The first volume came out three years ago. 177 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: It covered it was called Scalia Rise to Greatness, and 178 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 6: it covered the moment up until he sat down on 179 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 6: the Supreme Court. This volume covers the first half of 180 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 6: his tenure, which has the abortion cases, his clashes with 181 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 6: Sandrade O'Connor, William Brennan, his friendships with Ruth Bader Ginsburg 182 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 6: and Clarence Thomas, the Renquist Court, and it climaxes with 183 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 6: the national trauma of Bush v. 184 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 8: Gore. 185 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 6: Bracing it was Tony to realize that today there sits 186 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 6: on the Supreme Court only one justice who sat on 187 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 6: Bush v. Gore, and that's Clarence Thomas. This is an 188 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 6: extraordinary ride through American history. A lot of previously unpublished documents, speeches, 189 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 6: papers of Antonin Scalia, and also one chapter devoted to 190 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 6: my lunches with Nino Scalia at the av Restaurante, which 191 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 6: were Unforgettable and you can buy it on Amazon. It 192 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 6: comes out Tuesday, February ten. It's already available for pre 193 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 6: order everywhere. 194 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: All right, James, thanks so much. Great to see you, folks. 195 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Stick with US. 196 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: Ambassador Mike Huckabee is next. 197 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. 198 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Perkins, your host as you as the US 199 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: and Iranian officials are in talks right now regarding the 200 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: nuclear plan that Iran has been pursuing. Phase two of 201 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: President Trump's peace plan for Gaza is advancing as well. 202 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: The rof of border crossing between Gaza and Egypt has reopened. 203 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: Now. 204 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: Despite this step forward, Tomas Terras continue their refusal to 205 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: disarm as required under the plan, and it's believed that 206 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: they retain hundreds of rockets. Now, with the ceasefire still fragile, 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: what steps should Israel now consider joining me to discuss this. 208 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: US Ambassador to Israel, Mike huckabye, Ambassador, how can we be 209 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. 210 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 8: Hey, thank you, Tony. Great to be with you from Jerusalem. 211 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 8: I'll say Shabbat shalom from here. 212 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it's always good to have you on the program. 213 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: And again we are so grateful that you are there 214 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: in the that you are. The President has entrusted you 215 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: with one of our most important relationships, I believe, and 216 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: that is the relationship with Israel. And so I know 217 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: you represent the United States there, but you also have 218 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: you're listening to Benjaminett Yahoo, the Prime Minister, and the 219 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: Israeli officials. So I want to kind of get your 220 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: sense of as things are unfolding there. The reopening of 221 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: Rafa is clear that phase two is underway, but Hamas 222 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: refused to lay down their weapons. 223 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: That remains a threat for Israel. Well it does. 224 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 8: And earlier this week Hamas popped out of some of 225 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 8: the tunnels that they spent billions of dollars building and 226 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 8: they fired at IDF soldiers. One was critically wounded, and 227 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 8: Israel of course retaliated as they should, and they took 228 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 8: out some Kamas targets. We continually had these moments where 229 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 8: Hamas has violated the ceasefire. Interestingly, the international community always 230 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 8: says Israel and somehow violated the seasfire. Israel is striking 231 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 8: back when they're shot at. I don't know of anybody 232 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 8: who wouldn't shoot back. But it's really just the way 233 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 8: the media characterizes it. But here's what I can tell you. 234 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 8: The ceasefire has overall held. And the reason I can 235 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 8: say that is because it's been now over four months 236 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 8: since Janath and I have been awakened in the middle 237 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 8: of the night with a siren and had ninety seconds 238 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 8: to get to a shelter. So for the first time 239 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 8: in the nearly year that I've been here, we've had 240 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 8: four months with undisturbed peace at night. So for the 241 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 8: synics who say nothing is happening is not working, I 242 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 8: would tell you differently. The hostages are all home, every 243 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 8: last one of them living and deceased. The one piece 244 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 8: that is really needing to be done urgently is Hamasma's 245 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 8: disarm and Tony, you know this. Hamas agreed to disarm. 246 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 8: They said they would. They signed on to the deal 247 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 8: that every year of country signed on to. So not 248 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 8: that any of us expected them to do anything with 249 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 8: honor or to keep a promise, but at some point 250 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 8: they're going to have to understand it's over for them. 251 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 8: President Trump has made that very very clear. They're going 252 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 8: to disarm and they have no future in gossip. 253 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Mister Vasher, you talk about the international community criticizing Israel 254 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: when they defend themselves. Hamas agreed to this, the Arab 255 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: community that surrounding countries agreed to this plan. Where are 256 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: those voices calling upon Hamas to disarm and live up 257 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: to the agreement. 258 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 8: There is some pressure that is being applied, particularly from 259 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 8: the Egyptians and some from the Turks, trying to get 260 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 8: Hamas to live up to what they said and to 261 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 8: live up what must happen in order for Gaza to 262 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 8: go forward. But let's face it, Hamas, anybody who would 263 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 8: do what they did on October the seventh of what 264 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 8: they continue to do and torturing, starving, beating those hostages 265 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 8: for more than two years. These are not honorable people. 266 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 8: They're not even civilized. So to have some expectation that 267 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 8: they're going to suddenly start acting like decent human beings, 268 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 8: I think is a bridge too far. Doesn't mean they 269 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,359 Speaker 8: want disarm, It's just that they may not do it voluntarily. 270 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 8: And as President Trump has told them, you can do 271 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 8: it the easy way, or you can do it the 272 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 8: hard way. There's going to be at some point disarming 273 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 8: of Hamas, and there will be a phase too. 274 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: It will happen. 275 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 8: The sooner that Hamas recognizes its future is not in Gaza, 276 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 8: the better this all gets. 277 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Is the disarmament of Hamas a red line. 278 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 8: If it's a red line, it's certainly a red line 279 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 8: for Israel, and it's a red line for the United States. 280 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 8: It ought to be a red line for every decent 281 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 8: country in the region. I think it's a red line 282 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 8: for most of the Arab states. They all put their 283 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 8: names on the peace Plan, every one of them. It 284 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 8: was unanimous, and they all said, as part of the 285 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 8: twenty point Plan, Hamas must dearm, disarmed and demailitarized. So 286 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 8: I don't think there's anybody standing there applauding Hamas right now. 287 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 8: And they're coming up the works and it's signed for 288 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 8: them to give up. 289 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: Christer Ambassetdor of the US and IRON are now holding 290 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: nuclear talks talks in Aman. 291 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: The issue. 292 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: The United States has laid out what they want to see. 293 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: This goes beyond just the nuclear program. Iron wants to 294 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: limit it just to their nuclear program. What is Israel 295 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: from their perspective? What are they hoping comes out of 296 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: this round of conversations. 297 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 8: One of two things is going to happen either. Maybe 298 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 8: Iran will remember what happened to them last summer. They'll 299 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 8: realize they don't want to go through that again, and 300 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 8: maybe they come to a new way of looking at life. 301 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Let's hope so. 302 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,359 Speaker 8: And that means they would give up their nuclear aspirations, 303 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 8: they would give up nuclear material, they wouldn't have any 304 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 8: enriched uranium, and they would begin to dismantle their ballistic 305 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 8: missile program. Now the question is do any of us 306 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 8: think that that's what they're really hoping to do and 307 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 8: wanting to do and will do. I'll leave it to 308 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 8: your imagination as to whether you think that effort, forty 309 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 8: seven years of saying death to America and death to Israel, 310 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 8: Iran is really ready to lay down their sword and 311 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 8: pick up a pitchfork and start farming. But let's just 312 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 8: say this, it's an important step to take to give 313 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 8: them every opportunity, and I'll quote the President again to 314 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 8: do this the easy way instead of the hard way. 315 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 8: But I hope they don't take him to be a chump. 316 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 8: He's President Trump, not President Trump. And if they think 317 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 8: that they can play him, they found out last summer 318 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 8: they couldn't. I think they'll find it out again. I 319 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 8: can't say when, I can't say how. I can just 320 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 8: say that he is not a person who appreciates having 321 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 8: someone just try to pretend that he's not serious, because 322 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 8: if there's anybody on this earth who will keep his promises, 323 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 8: it's President Trump. 324 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the ballistic missile program, which Iranian officials 325 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: say they do not even want to discuss that they 326 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: have to retain their their ballistic missile program. But as 327 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: you were referring to last summer, it was the ballistic 328 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: missiles that were fired on Israel, and a lot of them. 329 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: This is a real issue for Israel to see that 330 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: program dismantled. 331 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 8: Well, it really is tony. And people don't understand what 332 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 8: a ballistic missile is because in America we don't dodge 333 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 8: many of them. It's the size of an eighteen wheel truck. 334 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 8: Even when it's intercepted, the pieces of that missile still 335 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 8: come in at mock five and there's an enormous level 336 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 8: of debris that comes down from even an intercepted missile. 337 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 8: But imagine one that doesn't get intercepted that hits a 338 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 8: building full of people. We're talking catastrophic damage, not just 339 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 8: to physical property, but to human beings. So it's an 340 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 8: incredibly dangerous thing for Iran to have a wealth of 341 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 8: ballistic missiles. Sure they're aimed at Israel, but the moment 342 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 8: they get the capacity to launch one that will reach 343 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 8: the US, don't kid yourself. They're going to launch one 344 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 8: toward US. They've been promising it for forty seven years. 345 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 8: They just haven't had quite to know how to get 346 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 8: it at that range yet. 347 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: Ambassador, we just have thirty seconds left. How can we 348 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: be praying for you and for Israel? 349 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 8: Well, pray that if these peace talks have a possibility, 350 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 8: that they will succeed. Look, I'd love for it to happen, 351 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 8: because if we have another war, I'm in the middle 352 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 8: of it. 353 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: I just soon pass. 354 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 8: But if we can avoid it, then pray, and this 355 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 8: is a sincere prayer, pray that the hand of God 356 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 8: will be even better and bigger and more effective than 357 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 8: the incredible military strength of both the US and Israel. 358 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 8: Great military strength, but even more powerful is the hand 359 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 8: of Almighty God. 360 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: Mister Bassard will leave it there. Thanks so much for 361 00:19:52,000 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: joining us, folks, stick around more straight ahead, Welcome back 362 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 2: to this week on Capitol Hill. I'm Tony Perkins. Well, 363 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: the American Medical Association this week made a stunning announcement, 364 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: agreeing with the American Society of Plastic Surgeons that transgender 365 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: surgical interventions for minors should generally be deferred until adulthood. 366 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: The AMA cited insufficient evidence that the benefits outweigh the risk. Now, 367 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: this is a major shift from past positions held by 368 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: major medical groups. The question is is this the beginning 369 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: of a broader reassessment within the US medical community. Joining 370 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: me now to discuss this is pediatric introcrinologist doctor Quentin 371 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: van Meter and executive committee member of the American College 372 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: of Pediatricians and their former president, Doctor van Meter. Welcome 373 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: to this week on Capitol Hill. 374 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 7: Glad to be here. 375 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 9: Thanks for asking, Tony. 376 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this question. Your reaction. This 377 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: is something you've been very vocal about, as the College 378 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: of Mediatricians have been. What is your response to this announcement. 379 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 9: Well, it's certainly a welcome announcement. It's very strange. The 380 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 9: American and Medical Association has a membership of a two 381 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 9: hundred and seventy thousand. In their House of Delegates is 382 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 9: about seven hundred people who make policy decisions by voting, 383 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 9: and the majority vote wins and that policy changes are made. 384 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 9: The AMA has really never had a policy statement in 385 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 9: terms of the care of kids who were struggling with 386 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 9: gender identity and congruits. They basically have been reactive. They've 387 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 9: reacted to positively to other professional associations such as the 388 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 9: Entergrine Society and the World Professional Association of Transgender Health, 389 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 9: who have established guidelines for care. They were very much 390 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 9: in favor of affirming the incongruent gender identity. They up 391 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 9: to this announcement, have been on that side of the issue. Chronically, 392 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 9: all of a sudden, in a matter of a day, 393 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 9: after the American Society of Plastic Surgeons published their statement 394 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 9: about the inappropriateness of surgical interventions for kids minors under 395 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 9: the age of eighteen for care with surgical interventions for 396 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 9: sex rejecting procedures, all of a sudden, the AMA turns 397 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 9: on a dime and says, oh, yeah, what they say, Well, 398 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 9: we believe that's the right answer. It clearly is not 399 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 9: something that went through the process of membership review and 400 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 9: House of Delegates review. It was a very quick reaction, 401 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 9: likely related to the malpractice suit that was one just 402 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 9: a couple of weeks ago. 403 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to get to that in a moment, 404 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: But I want to go back on the AMA's record 405 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: on this, because over the last five six years they 406 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: have been actively opposing policy initiatives like the one that 407 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: the Family Research Council put out to these that the 408 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: Save Act, the Safe Act that keeps protects children from these. 409 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: Irreversible medical procedures. 410 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: They were leading a campaign asking governors to veto these 411 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: policy initiatives, saying that these interventions were medically necessary. So 412 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: how is it that these could have been medically necessary 413 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: six months ago but now there's no evidence to support that. 414 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 9: Well, I think it's the reaction for fear of malpractice 415 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 9: suits mounting now that the one malpractice suit has won 416 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 9: for the patient involved or the jury of her peers. 417 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 9: So it's a scary business to think that what you 418 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 9: have been sitting on top of which is based on 419 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 9: ideology and not science, what you've been promoting for the 420 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 9: past decade, what you are claimed to be supporting for 421 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 9: the past decade in courts of law around the country. 422 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 9: I've had the opportunity to sit in on behalf of 423 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 9: families who were trying to get custody of their child 424 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 9: because the opposite parent was wanting to have these sex 425 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 9: rejecting procedures done. And the judge would say, are you 426 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 9: aware of the American Medical Association, the biggest professional association. 427 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 9: They endorse these procedures. So we've had to put up 428 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 9: with this giant, fake wall of pseudoscience over and over 429 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 9: and over again, and now we have a crack in 430 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 9: the wall. The interesting thing is that why is it 431 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 9: just the surgical that AMA is now rejecting. It is 432 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 9: the same process, the same guidelines, the same reviews internationally 433 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 9: and HHS review that show that the medical interventions are 434 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 9: just as non beneficial and probably harmful. 435 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: Well, the jury out of New York was dealing with 436 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: a double missectomy of a young woman who identified as 437 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: a boy at the age of sixteen. Based on the 438 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: malpractice of that she was awarded two million dollars. So 439 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: obviously the compassion is not driving the AMA. It's a 440 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: concern over dollars and cents. Maybe it's just a matter 441 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: of time until there's a malpractice suit based upon these 442 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: medical interventions. 443 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: That should happen soon. 444 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: All right, doctor van Meter, thanks so much for joining us, 445 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: and I do appreciate the fact that you have been 446 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: out there speaking about the harms of this from day one. 447 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 9: I'll continue to do so. 448 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tony. 449 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: All right, all right, stay tuned when we come back 450 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: to this week on Capitol Hill. Will be joined by 451 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: House Speaker Mike Johnson for our weekly conversation. 452 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: This week, there was a lot of prayer on Capitol Hill. 453 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: The Speaker was a part of that, and the. 454 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: National Gathering for Prayer and Repentance, and then the National 455 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: Prayer Breakfast where the Speaker spoke along with President Donald Trump. 456 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: All of that and more still ahead on. 457 00:25:51,440 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: This week on Capitol Hill. Welcome back to this week 458 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill. 459 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: I have Tony Perkins. 460 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 6: Well. 461 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: This week, Christians from around the world gathered in Washington, 462 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: d c. Not to march or protest, but to pray 463 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: and to repent. The twenty twenty six National Gathering for 464 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 2: Prayer and Repentance, held at the Museum of the Bible, 465 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 2: offered a powerful opportunity to confess our nation's sins and 466 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: to seek God's mercy and his guidance. Attendees included members 467 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: of Congress, representatives from the Trump administration, and many others 468 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: from around Washington and literally around the world joining me 469 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: out for our weekly conversation to discuss this and much more. 470 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 2: As House Speaker Mike Johnson, representing Louisiana's fourth Congressional district, 471 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: he joins us by phone. 472 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Mister speaker, welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. 473 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 10: Hey, Tony, great to be with you as always. 474 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: All right, a lot of prayer this week, and this 475 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: city actually needs a lot. 476 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 10: Of prayer, it does. I tell you what. It was 477 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 10: so encouraging to see a ballroom full at the Museum 478 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 10: of the Bible once again and for the fourth annual 479 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 10: National Gathering for prayant Repentance, and it was both right, 480 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 10: there's really some heartfelt intercession, you know, people recognizing that 481 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 10: we do need to repent for our individual and collect 482 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 10: the sins, of course, and get our hearts right before 483 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 10: the Lord and then pray for his blessing of our nation. 484 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 10: You know, there was a lot made of you know, 485 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 10: this coinciding with the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of 486 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 10: our extraordinary country. We talked about the foundations of America 487 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 10: and how we need to preserve them, and ultimately, of 488 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 10: course that all of this is a spiritual battle, as 489 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 10: we know, so a great time and encouraging time. And 490 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 10: I'm really grateful that you and Jim Garlo and others 491 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 10: had the vision to start all that. 492 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: Well, you were a part of starting that. 493 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: It was actually doctor Jim Garlow, myself and you that 494 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: launched that four years ago before you were Speaker. But 495 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: I want to say thank you for continuing to be there, 496 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: and even your comments this week at the National Prayer 497 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: Breakfast echoed that same message. 498 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 7: It's consistent across the board. 499 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: And I do think it's important that we talk about 500 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: prayer that quite frequently, giving credit to the Lord for 501 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: some of the amazing things that has happened during your 502 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: two year tenure as Speaker. And I guess we're going 503 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: to put that prayer to the test once again when 504 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: we look at another pending government shutdown with this very 505 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: short runway to fund the Department of Homeland Security. 506 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 10: Yes, I wish we didn't have these dramatic events every 507 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 10: week in Congress now, but this is the reality with 508 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 10: small margins that we have a one vote margin in 509 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 10: the House now and they have just three in the Senate. 510 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 10: So this is what you get. We're really grateful, really 511 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 10: proud that we got the twelve appropriations bills through the 512 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 10: whole process until the very end, eleven are now signed 513 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 10: in the law. The President did that triumphantly in a 514 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 10: signing service at the Oval last week earlier this week. 515 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 10: But now we're all tied up on the Homeland Security bill. 516 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 10: The Democrats are politically posturing over the immigration customs and 517 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 10: enforcement issue, and we're all sort of on the edge 518 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 10: of our seat to see what they'll agree to. We 519 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 10: obviously need to have immigration enforcement that is balanced and 520 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 10: smart and efficient and obviously complies to the Constitution. There 521 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 10: are always ways to tweet the processes and procedures, and 522 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 10: the President has shown complete good faith and wanting to 523 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 10: ensure that that's true. But Chuck Shermer and the Democrats 524 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 10: and the Senate are trying to use this for political posturing. 525 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 10: And so I'm not sure as we speak right now, Tony, 526 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 10: how exactly it's going to sort out. But the two 527 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 10: sides are pretty far apart of the moment. 528 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Well, and again, this current funding which is just basically 529 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: two weeks, expires this coming Friday. I mean, you've got 530 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: less than a week to get this figured out, and 531 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: just the legislative process itself consumes. 532 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: A lot of time. 533 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: Are we looking at another short term extension? What do 534 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: you think are the possible options here on the table? 535 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 10: Well, I don't even want to conceive that yet. But 536 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 10: of course, the amount of time it takes to move 537 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 10: something across the floor in the Senate, you have to 538 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 10: think ahead. Leader Thoon in the Senate is doing that 539 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 10: for their publican side. We'll see what happens. I'll just 540 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 10: tell you it probably comes down to a couple of 541 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 10: really tough issues that the Democrats are demanding that I 542 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 10: think would be unworkable and unsafe. I mean they're demanding, 543 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 10: for example, that all Immigrations, customs and enforcement agents remove 544 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 10: masks as they're executing their job doing their job. Well, 545 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 10: that's a dangerous prospect because we know that those individuals 546 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 10: are being docked. I mean, it puts their own families 547 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 10: and physical jeopardy for their safety. So we can't do that. 548 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 10: We have to protect our law enforcement officers. And the 549 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 10: other thing is they're saying now that they want a 550 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 10: brand new judicial warrant requirement in order to go and 551 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 10: apprehend someone, and that's not workable. We have tens of 552 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 10: millions of illegals who come across the border into the 553 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 10: country over the four years of Bide administration. It would 554 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 10: literally be an unworkable standard. It means no one, no 555 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 10: illegal practically could be apprehendible. 556 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: That's been a part that's been a part of the 557 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: immigration problem has been the court, the court backlog. So 558 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: this would this would only make the situation worse. 559 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 10: Right and it would effectively allow all illegals to stay 560 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 10: in the country, almost all of them. And that's obviously 561 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 10: not something that we can do. It's not something that 562 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 10: American people would agree to. But the Democrats see this 563 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 10: as a wedge issue, and I'm afraid they're trying to 564 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 10: use it for political purposes. So we've got to navigate 565 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 10: through all of that this week. I think we can. 566 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 10: You know me, I'm an optimist, but if we miss 567 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 10: that deadline, it could be detrimental because the Homeland Security 568 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 10: Bill covers not just ICE, but it's TSA agents in 569 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 10: the airport, that's the Coast Guard, it's all these FEMA, 570 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 10: all the other things. So we got to get it done. 571 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting the van out to get ready to 572 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: make my drive back and forth to Washington. In the 573 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: event that TSA is not operating. Let me go back 574 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: to something you said about the docks thing of these 575 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: law enforcement officers with ice. 576 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: You know that. 577 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: It's reflective of a bigger problem we have, the lawlessness 578 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: and the underlying issues. And this is something you know, 579 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: tying back to what we started with in this segment 580 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: about the prayer of the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, 581 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: going back to those biblical foundations, I mean, we cannot 582 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: long survive as a nation when we have this constant 583 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: outbreak of lawlessness and disrespect for law and order. 584 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 10: Exactly right. And you know, I had a kind of 585 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 10: a high profile press gaggle this week where someone asked 586 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 10: me to give a biblical response to biblical defense of 587 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 10: immigration and border policy. And I've explained and succinctly as 588 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 10: I could that this is an issue and a command 589 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 10: of God. Really, it goes all the way from the 590 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 10: Old Testament to anew And you and I know, and 591 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 10: we talked about all the time in Romans thirteen, it's 592 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 10: very clear the Lord gives the civil authorities that responsibility 593 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 10: to maintain order. And so in a civilized society you 594 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 10: must have that. Because we live in a fallen world. 595 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 10: You must have law enforcement, and it's a calling by God. 596 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 10: It says in scripture that these are God's agents of 597 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 10: the to bring punishment upon the wrong doer. But it 598 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 10: also says if you follow the rules and you follow 599 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 10: the law, you obviously have nothing to fear. You do 600 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 10: not fear the civilatory. So, I mean, it's an important principle. 601 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 10: It's one that you know, the generations behind us seem 602 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 10: to be losing sight of, and it's really important for 603 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 10: us to remind every one of that, especially on the 604 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 10: two undred and fiftieth anniversary of this great Republic. 605 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: Classes in session all year long. 606 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: House Speaker Mike Johnson. Always great to see you, my friend. 607 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us today. 608 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 10: You got my friend, talk to you soon. 609 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, a lot to pray about, a lot 610 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: to pray about. 611 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: All right, after the break, a few final thoughts on 612 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: one of the major news stories of the week, the 613 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: American Medical Association. I'm going to talk about that next 614 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: on this edition of This Week on Capitol Hill. 615 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 7: So don't go anywhere. 616 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: You are tuned in to this Week on Capitol Hill, 617 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: and I'm Tony Perkins, your host. Well, this week, the 618 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: American Medical Association reminded the country why you should always 619 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: get a second medical opinion. For more than a decade, 620 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: the American Medical Association the AMA has supported irreversible surgeries 621 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 2: and experimental drug treatments for children diagnosed with gender dysphoria. 622 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 2: At the same time, it is actively opposed policies designed 623 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: to protect those very children. Chief among those efforts was 624 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: the Safe Act legislation Family Research Council helped craft in 625 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, The Save Adolescents from Experimentation Act, first introduced 626 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: and passed in Arkansas, prohibits irreversible surgical procedures and the 627 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 2: experimental use of drugs on miners to suppress or alter 628 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: their biological sex. 629 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: Despite the AMA's. 630 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: Aggressive campaign urging governors to oppose such protections, claiming these 631 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 2: procedures were medically necessary, the movement to safeguard children continues 632 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: to gain momentum. Roughly six years later, twenty seven states 633 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: have adopted some version of the Safe Act. Even in 634 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: cases where governors accepted the AMA's recommendations, such as former 635 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson and outgoing Ohio Governor Mike DeWine, 636 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: their legislatures overrode their vetos now comes this stunning announcement. 637 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 2: This week, the AMA acknowledged that there is insufficient evidence 638 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: to continue supporting surgical interventions on miners under the banner 639 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: of gender affirming care. While the organization stopped short of 640 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: fully repudiating the experimental use of puberty blockers and cross 641 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: sex hormones, it conceded that the evidence does not demonstrate 642 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 2: surgical benefit for miners experiencing gender dysphoria. This announcement followed 643 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: a more robust statement from the American Society of Plastic 644 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: Surgeons that reached a similar conclusion. This admission is welcome, 645 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 2: but it raises unavoidable questions. If there was insufficient evaces 646 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: to justify these irreversible procedures, procedures that permanently remove healthy 647 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: body parts, why was the AMA intervening so forcefully in 648 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 2: public policy debates to block laws protecting children on what 649 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: basis were its claims of medical necessity made? The answer 650 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 2: appears less scientific and more ideological. For years, a growing 651 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: body of international research has warned against these interventions. Finland, Swedland, 652 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: and England all reevaluated and restricted pediatric gender treatments. 653 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: After reviewing the data. It may have. 654 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: Last year, even the US Department of Health and Human 655 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: Services acknowledged that the evidence supporting medical intervention for minors 656 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 2: was weak at best. 657 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: So why the change now? 658 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: Was it the accumulation of research showing not only a 659 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 2: lack of benefit, but of demonstrable harm. 660 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's the two million dollar question. Did I say 661 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: two million dollars? 662 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: On January thirtieth, a New York jury awarded two million 663 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 2: dollars to a twenty two year old woman who had 664 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: been pushed into a double missectomy at the age of 665 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: sixteen after identifying as a male. Her mother testified that 666 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: she opposed the surgery, but was told the alternative was 667 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: a dead daughter or a living son, a coercive tactic 668 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 2: documented by former Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey during his 669 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 2: investigation into the industry. Suddenly the cost of playing make 670 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: believe became real. It appears the prospect of accountability not compassion, 671 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: finally prompted the AMA's change of heart. That, my friends, 672 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: was this week on Capitol Hill.