WEBVTT - Another Trans Shooter Strikes

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Blake.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew is also with us I believe he's in Palm Beach.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if we have a connection with him

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<v Speaker 3>or not. We don't have him yet. Alrighty, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>just jump right into it. There's a lot going on today,

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<v Speaker 3>but the story we wanted to start with today is

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<v Speaker 3>one that I think affects all certainly all of us

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<v Speaker 3>here in a more personal way than it ever did before. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a mass shooting in Canada. This is in

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<v Speaker 3>the town of tumblr Ridge. It's in northern British Columbia.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a town of only a few thousand people, very

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<v Speaker 3>far away from anywhere else, and there was a shooter there,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's been ten fatalities, including the shooter himself. But

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<v Speaker 3>what stands out about this is it fits into a

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<v Speaker 3>mic pattern that has emerged over the past few years.

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<v Speaker 3>The police originally identified the shooter as a woman in

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<v Speaker 3>a dress with brown hair. I think, if you're like me,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're like a lot of people, that immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>Makes you raise an eyebrow.

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<v Speaker 3>A woman in a dress, And unsurprisingly, what a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people immediately jump to is this is probably a

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<v Speaker 3>transgender person who has done shooting. And that was only

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<v Speaker 3>supported when the police came out and this is the

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<v Speaker 3>Canadian police, of course, and began referring to the shooter

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<v Speaker 3>as a word I'm not sure any of us have

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard before.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's play clip three point fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>One that includes the deceased gun person.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and then separately, do you know the gun person's

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<v Speaker 3>relationship to.

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<v Speaker 4>A gun person? Not a gunman?

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<v Speaker 3>I think even I think even when a woman does

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<v Speaker 3>a shooting, it's usually just gunman. But now this time

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<v Speaker 3>it's a gun person. And so I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>recite the name merely because the Canadian police have not

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<v Speaker 3>officially identified the shooter yet, but we have very very strong,

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<v Speaker 3>i would say, overwhelming evidence that this shooter was a

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<v Speaker 3>local transgender individual. This person killed two people in their

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<v Speaker 3>own family at their home and then went to their

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<v Speaker 3>school and went on a spree shooting. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>something that personally affects me because I remember when the

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<v Speaker 3>Covenant school shooting happened in the spring of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>I just started working with Charlie, and that shooter, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>turned out to have a transgender identification along with a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of other issues, and Charlie predicted on the show

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<v Speaker 3>that he thought there would be a wave of transgender

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<v Speaker 3>shooters of one kind or another, and I was skeptical.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, Charlie, they're a very tiny share of the population,

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<v Speaker 3>under one percent. Shootings like this are rare events generally,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just I don't think you're likely to see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, one percent times of tiny number turn into

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<v Speaker 3>a real trend. And the truth is Charlie was right

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<v Speaker 3>and I was wrong, because since then we had the

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<v Speaker 3>shooting at Annunciation Catholic in Minneapolis that was a transgender shooter.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had we hadn't known about this at the time

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<v Speaker 3>or noticed that. But Hyland's Ranch in Colorado there was

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<v Speaker 3>a shooting there, two shooters, and one of them was transgender.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course, as all of you know, Tyler Robinson,

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<v Speaker 3>the suspect who we believe to be guilty of Charlie's shooting,

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<v Speaker 3>he appears to have been motivated. He was not transgender himself,

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<v Speaker 3>but was in a relationship with a transgender individual and

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<v Speaker 3>seems to have been motivated ideologically by that cause. And

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<v Speaker 3>now this shooter, we're getting the person who's very likely

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<v Speaker 3>the shooter. We're getting details someone found their Reddit account.

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<v Speaker 3>This person was taking a super dose of Zoloft at

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and eighty milligrams a day. I checked online.

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<v Speaker 3>The starting dose is twenty five milligrams, goes up to

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred. This person was taking two hundred and eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>They were supplementing that with marijuana. They were taking something

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<v Speaker 3>called five meo DMT, which is a psychoactive drug that

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<v Speaker 3>you get from licking Arizona desert toad. You extract that

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<v Speaker 3>and get a psychoactive experience. And then this person was

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<v Speaker 3>taking a giant pile of hormones because they thought they

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<v Speaker 3>should be the opposite sex. And what I have to

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<v Speaker 3>say is, I think we're going to see more things

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<v Speaker 3>like this because we're seeing we're reaping the harvest that

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<v Speaker 3>was sown about a decade ago when we started to

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<v Speaker 3>have the transgender cultural contagion spread. It started with a

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<v Speaker 3>handful of families in the Bay Area, elite families. They

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<v Speaker 3>had this kind of let's say it, a fetish that

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<v Speaker 3>was indulged and fed. And then we blasted it out

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<v Speaker 3>to the entire world with media and the Obama administration

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<v Speaker 3>encouraging insurance companies to cover this. And then we had

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<v Speaker 3>activists takeover medical professional organizations and egg them on into saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if your kid says, oh, they feel unhappy about going

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<v Speaker 3>through puberty, or they don't like being a boy or

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<v Speaker 3>don't like being a girl, we are gonna put them

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<v Speaker 3>on a rocket ship towards getting irreversible surgeries, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to put them on a ton of hormones. And

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<v Speaker 3>the truth is is these are all very mentally unwell

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<v Speaker 3>people who are probably not going to respond well to

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<v Speaker 3>a giant cocktail of chemicals being thrown at their brain.

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<v Speaker 3>And what started as a very niche thing with a

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<v Speaker 3>handful of people has turned into a broad based thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, tumbler Ridge, small town in rural Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you go across America, everyone in America has

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<v Speaker 3>had this encounter. You know, someone at their school. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a boy who says she's a girl and that he's

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<v Speaker 3>a girl. Now grew out their hair, you know, wears

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<v Speaker 3>a different outfit. And these people, over and over are

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<v Speaker 3>not mentally well, and they gravitate together and online spaces

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<v Speaker 3>where they're fed a very radicalizing ideology. They're said, they're

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<v Speaker 3>told everyone must accept you, or they're trying to commit

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<v Speaker 3>genocide against you. They're denying your right to exist and

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<v Speaker 3>you have the right, and they're the ones who are

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<v Speaker 3>most prone to interpret that literally and think, Oh, if

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<v Speaker 3>someone is denying my right to exist, I should respond

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<v Speaker 3>with violence. I should lash out at the world. This

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<v Speaker 3>suspected shooter appears to on Reddit. Besides posting about the

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<v Speaker 3>insane number of drugs they were taking, they were taking,

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<v Speaker 3>they were going to a shooting range and practicing, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were posting clips of this on trans guns, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a subreddit that exists for transgender people to practice

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<v Speaker 3>with guns. We've created a very, very toxic environment, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just shudder to think that we're probably going to

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<v Speaker 3>have more events like this, more shooters like the ones

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<v Speaker 3>who target pub at school, like an annunciation Catholic, and

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<v Speaker 3>like what happened with Charlie. But in the meantime, we

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<v Speaker 3>do have this very bleak denial where there's a there's

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<v Speaker 3>a true dynamic you notice with this shooting, where they

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<v Speaker 3>have the competing impulses where they realize that if they

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<v Speaker 3>publicly announced, oh, it was a shooter and it was

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<v Speaker 3>a transgender individual who may have been motivated by that,

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<v Speaker 3>that will look bad. But they've also been trained for

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<v Speaker 3>a decade that they can't deny this person's pronouns. So

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<v Speaker 3>we get this bizarre situation where they're using gun person as.

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<v Speaker 4>Their chosen lingo.

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<v Speaker 3>But they won't they won't confirm who the shooter is.

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<v Speaker 3>They've they've taken longer on this than I think they

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<v Speaker 3>normally would with something like because they still haven't confirmed

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<v Speaker 3>it a day later, and they at this point I

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<v Speaker 3>think very easily could and you know, we have clips

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<v Speaker 3>that point this out.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do a three point fifty two.

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<v Speaker 5>But we know if it was a victim who was

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<v Speaker 5>trans because we understand this is a fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 5>boy who identifies as a girl gone crazy. If it

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<v Speaker 5>had been if it been a trans victim, they'd have

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<v Speaker 5>talked NonStop about that, as they did about the tragedy

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<v Speaker 5>of the killing of Brianna Jai, who was a boy

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<v Speaker 5>who was living as if he was a girl and

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<v Speaker 5>was treated as a girl by his parents and he

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<v Speaker 5>was killed. He was not targeted for being gay, But

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<v Speaker 5>most of the media reports go on and on and

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<v Speaker 5>on about this trans killing because he was trans identified,

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<v Speaker 5>but they ignore it when it's the perpetrator.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, I'm told we do finally have Andrew with

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<v Speaker 3>us in Palm Beach. So Andrew, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And man, what a what a tragedy that I think

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<v Speaker 3>all of us are horrified.

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<v Speaker 6>We were letting you cook. We were letting you cook. Blake,

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<v Speaker 6>he made a lot of great points. Yeah, I'm here

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<v Speaker 6>in Palm Beach, the mother ship for Real America's Voice

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<v Speaker 6>with Rob and Parker Sigg.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, this was a horrible shooting.

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<v Speaker 6>And instantly you made the connection I thought about, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 6>Candles were lit on Bondai Beach by families, by children,

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<v Speaker 6>a festival from Bible times, one that Jesus himself celebrated.

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<v Speaker 6>People gathered with hope, seeking unity and comfort and tradition.

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<v Speaker 6>But instead of light, there was darkness, violence, fear, hatred

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<v Speaker 6>this trans shooting, Blake, you've you've really done a deep dive.

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<v Speaker 6>Bravo on that first segment. You did fantastic. But we

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<v Speaker 6>got to play this clip from Charlie. This was back

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty twenty three. You mentioned that Charlie was right

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<v Speaker 6>and a lot of people were wrong, maybe even you

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<v Speaker 6>were wrong, but he nailed it. And it's creepy watching

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<v Speaker 6>this stuff, you know. One of our producers sent me

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<v Speaker 6>this clip from twenty twenty three and said, this is

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<v Speaker 6>gonna be hard to watch, but you have to.

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<v Speaker 7>Play it, and I agree.

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<v Speaker 6>You know the way that everything went down with Charlie

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<v Speaker 6>and the Tyler Robinson case and you made mention of

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that he was at least motivated by his,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, relationship with this trans identifying person. So let's

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<v Speaker 6>let's go ahead and play it. This is from I

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<v Speaker 6>believe This is from March twenty eight, twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 6>play cut three eighty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Trans people have been made into kind of the sacred

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<v Speaker 1>cow of a American politics. You can't question it, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't criticize it, and they believe they can threaten whoever

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<v Speaker 1>they want. This is the ultimate top of the Impression Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>How many dead kids is it going to take for

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<v Speaker 1>us to say we've probably gone too far here and

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<v Speaker 1>we should just ask a couple of questions. How many

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<v Speaker 1>mass shootings have to happen where we probably say wait

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<v Speaker 1>a second, you know, can we just calm down?

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<v Speaker 7>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>And basically Charlie goes on in that clip we have

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<v Speaker 6>a second one three ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 7>It might be worth playing, but the media.

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<v Speaker 6>It has so fixated and by the way, Canada is

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<v Speaker 6>worse than just about any other countries. It's worse than America,

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<v Speaker 6>it's probably worse than the UK Blake. But they were

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<v Speaker 6>worried about the privacy of the shooter So this person

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<v Speaker 6>kills nine people, wounds another twenty five, some of them

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<v Speaker 6>may lose their life, kills his own family, and they're

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<v Speaker 6>worried about his privacy. Think about how backwards that value

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<v Speaker 6>system is that would prioritize the privacy of the shooter.

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<v Speaker 6>Call them a gun person, a lady in address. Respect

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<v Speaker 6>the hell out of this person, but they don't give

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<v Speaker 6>two craps about the people that just got shot and killed.

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<v Speaker 6>Play cut three ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>The media is actually pushing forward this total lie that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a transgenocide again, the Trans Day of Vengeance. They

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<v Speaker 1>have shirts where they say trans trans rites, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have all these weapons or else that is a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Antifa and the trans mafia are now partners, and nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>investigating them now, no one's asking questions. The media is

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<v Speaker 1>terrified of these people, and by the way, some of

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<v Speaker 1>that fear is warranted. You will get death threats, they

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<v Speaker 1>will try to come after you. That's what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They enjoy the violence against conservatives.

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<v Speaker 3>He was one hundred percent right on that, and as

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<v Speaker 3>we learned to our horror, and it really is. If

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<v Speaker 3>you look around online and if you start looking for

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<v Speaker 3>the pattern, you see it over and over again, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just that they're radicalized, it's routinely, even in

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that's not specifically about transgenderism, often they most radical,

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<v Speaker 3>the most extreme people in any movement are Often the

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<v Speaker 3>joke would be that they're they're the trantissaries. They're like

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<v Speaker 3>the shock troops of leftism, and often in bizarre ways,

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of the most militantly left wing moderators

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<v Speaker 3>on websites like Wikipedia or on Reddit, they're often transgender.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they're the ones, for example, who would be

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<v Speaker 3>really gung ho about censorship. So the reason censorship on

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<v Speaker 3>so many platforms went through the roof is you would

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<v Speaker 3>have these transgender moderators and editors and such take it over,

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<v Speaker 3>and they just everything gets consumed into them enforcing their fetish,

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<v Speaker 3>this contagion on the entire population because they need that

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<v Speaker 3>level of control because, as people have pointed out, if

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<v Speaker 3>they aren't endlessly having people affirm their identity, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>giving narcan to a hair attic. You're killing their high

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<v Speaker 3>and you're driving them into a frenzy. And then on

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<v Speaker 3>top of that, they're all medicated to the gills on

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<v Speaker 3>untowed venom and so on. Andrew, but I wanted us

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that we hit another aspect of this,

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<v Speaker 3>because there is reason for hope.

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<v Speaker 4>This is all bad.

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<v Speaker 3>We're probably going to see more shootings like this in

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<v Speaker 3>the ears to come, but a big reason for hope

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<v Speaker 3>that happened in the last few.

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<v Speaker 4>Days and we haven't talked about it yet.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to also see the reckoning against the freaks

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<v Speaker 3>and frauds and Charlatan's, the medical malpractice monsters in our

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<v Speaker 3>schools and hospital systems who fed people into this contagion.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of weeks ago in New York, not a

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<v Speaker 3>red state by any means, a New York jury awarded

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<v Speaker 3>a woman Fox Varian, two million dollars in a medical

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<v Speaker 3>malpractice case. Because she her parents were going through a divorce,

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<v Speaker 3>they were fighting over custody. She got depressed, she was

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<v Speaker 3>diagnosed with autism, and in as part of this, she

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<v Speaker 3>started to identify as a boy, was put on a

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<v Speaker 3>rocket ship, got a double mastectomy in about a year

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<v Speaker 3>under a year and only got worse and then eventually detransitioned.

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<v Speaker 3>Went to a jury and said this was medical malpractice.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not really a boy, and they did all

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<v Speaker 3>these things to me. And she just got one point

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<v Speaker 3>six million dollars in past pay and four hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars to cover her future medical costs. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the numbers from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>according to the American Medical Association, we've had over thirty

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred mass tectomies on children twelve to eighteen, four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and five genital surgeries.

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<v Speaker 7>Blake how Man, how many read that first stat again?

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<v Speaker 3>Three thousand, two hundred and fifteen masstectomies on twelve to

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen year olds from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty. So

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<v Speaker 3>and that was before the peak. I'd say the peak

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<v Speaker 3>was probably twenty one twenty two. Maybe maybe we're still peaking.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've probably had thousands more four hundred and five

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<v Speaker 3>genital surgeries, three hundred and fifty other gender related procedures,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's on twelve to eighteen year old children of

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<v Speaker 3>both sexes. It almost certainly the real number is higher.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's surgeries. Never mind how many people took

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<v Speaker 3>hormones because that's the first intervention they do, or puberty blockers.

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<v Speaker 4>We know the puberty.

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<v Speaker 3>Blockers that that wouldn't even fall into that age window

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<v Speaker 3>that's often kids, you know, nine to twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 3>and that can massively mess you up, that can lower

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<v Speaker 3>your IQ, that can make you infertile for like huge

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<v Speaker 3>numbers of problems.

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<v Speaker 4>And now the other day, the UH.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the Metal, Yeah, the American Society of Plastic

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<v Speaker 3>Surgeons basically came out against gender related surgery for minors.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're opening the door to a wave. Thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of these lawsuits could be coming, and they should be

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<v Speaker 3>coming Red States. We should make sure our laws are

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<v Speaker 3>as amenable as possible to these lawsuits. Make it so

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<v Speaker 3>there's no window where you know, there's no statute of

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<v Speaker 3>limitation on it, no ceiling on the damages. We should

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<v Speaker 3>utterly bankrupt every doctor, every clinic that fed children to

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<v Speaker 3>this Moloch monstrosity.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you'd hope something like this will just further underscore

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<v Speaker 6>something that is common sense to most Americans. But the

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<v Speaker 6>fact that we're having to fight on this battle just

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<v Speaker 6>shows how bad it has gotten bad in so many

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<v Speaker 6>This was I mean, if you watched any of the

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<v Speaker 6>news last night. So I got in late into Palm

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<v Speaker 6>Beach and I turned on the TV and it was

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<v Speaker 6>like wall to wall coverage, like all the networks were

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<v Speaker 6>covering it because this was we are now in the

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<v Speaker 6>eleventh day of this Nancy Guthrie saga where she was

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<v Speaker 6>kidnapped and people figured out because she didn't make it

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<v Speaker 6>to church and they called the family. The family went

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<v Speaker 6>in check. They immediately called nine to one one, got

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<v Speaker 6>the cops involved, and the investigation installed. It just felt

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<v Speaker 6>like there was no movement. There was these ransom letters

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.879
<v Speaker 6>that were getting sent to TMZ and local affiliates that

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<v Speaker 6>included bitcoin wallets, and you saw Savannah Guthrie going on

0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 6>TV saying please, you know, we want to talk. And

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<v Speaker 6>it does appear that there's been activity now in this

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<v Speaker 6>bitcoin wallet. So originally there was three hundred dollars sent.

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<v Speaker 6>Now we're being told it could be all of it sent,

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<v Speaker 6>but Harvey Levin over.

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<v Speaker 7>TMZ is being very coy about what they know.

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<v Speaker 6>It is one of those crazy stories that just seemed

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<v Speaker 6>to accelerate with a lot of velocity last night. And

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<v Speaker 6>so the FBI releases these ring doorbell footage that came

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<v Speaker 6>from sort of residual data on this ring doorbell Nancy

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<v Speaker 6>Guthrie did not have a subscription to keep the footage,

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<v Speaker 6>to store the footage, and so the FBI had to

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<v Speaker 6>come in with their digital experts and he create it,

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<v Speaker 6>reverse engineer it, and then they went and found a

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<v Speaker 6>person of interest. SWAT teams were sent out, they investigated

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<v Speaker 6>this guy.

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<v Speaker 7>It was.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody last night was thinking, was this the guy that

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<v Speaker 6>that kidnapped her?

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<v Speaker 7>Was somebody that was associated with the case.

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<v Speaker 6>And listen, when the when the networks like this and

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<v Speaker 6>when the tabloids are all covering this story, it means

0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 6>there's a billion eyeballs on this thing. For this has

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<v Speaker 6>captured the imagination of the country. And it's just a

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<v Speaker 6>really interesting story because as Blake has mentioned, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 6>as Charlie's to mention, you know, this is really close

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<v Speaker 6>to the Mexican border. And this person of interest was

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<v Speaker 6>pulled over in a traffic stop about ten minutes from

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<v Speaker 6>the Mexican border, so it was actually south of Tucson,

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<v Speaker 6>where Nancy Guthrie lives.

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<v Speaker 7>He's pulled over in ten minutes away from the border.

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<v Speaker 6>We're all thinking, uh, oh, here we go, here we

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<v Speaker 6>go now, could be the cartels. Then they interview him.

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<v Speaker 6>This guy gets released. He says he's innocent. Three fifty six.

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<v Speaker 7>What were they asking you about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Whereabouts? Okay? Where do I? Where was I?

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<v Speaker 8>And all that?

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<v Speaker 7>But are you ever up in Tucson?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I work in Tucson. What do you do?

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<v Speaker 7>Gls ther packages?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Do you think you might have delivered a package

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<v Speaker 2>to Nancy got through ouse? No, might have been a possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you ever deliver like Amazon packages or anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's that's that's kind of the same thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think you may have? Did they ever?

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<v Speaker 7>Did they indicate that you might have been on her property?

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<v Speaker 1>You're not sure?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they just came up. They until right now.

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<v Speaker 8>All I know is that they show me my in

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<v Speaker 8>la a picture of somebody wearing a mask or something,

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<v Speaker 8>and they supposedly looked like my eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Okay, So he denies this his I guess his

0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.960
<v Speaker 6>mother in law was doing interviews with MS now or

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<v Speaker 6>CNN last night as well. It's a fascinating story that

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<v Speaker 6>seems to be developing. I think the big headline here, Blake,

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<v Speaker 6>is the power of the FB to retrace digital footprints.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh we do have John soon? Well, John, Yes, Welcome

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<v Speaker 6>into the show. John could be with me fighting tech

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<v Speaker 6>all morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Good. It's great to have you. We're good.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been one of those mornings though. So John, give

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<v Speaker 6>us the latest. I mean, there was it seemed like

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 6>this case had stalled and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 6>it just accelerated rapidly with Savannah Guthrie and her mom

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<v Speaker 6>who's obviously been kidnapped, Nancy. What is the latest? They

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<v Speaker 6>had this person of interest that was detained, not arrested.

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<v Speaker 6>They've let this person go. What's the latest?

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<v Speaker 8>So I think what you're seeing is the FBI has

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<v Speaker 8>a pool of suspects. Remember what Cash Betel told Sean

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<v Speaker 8>Handy last night, that they're looking at multiple people who

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<v Speaker 8>could be involved in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that doesn't mean they were working together.

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<v Speaker 8>Could be that they've got a pool of people that

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<v Speaker 8>fit certain criteria. Their phone was in the area at

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<v Speaker 8>the time, their eyes looked the same as the guy

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.679
<v Speaker 8>in the camera they were near, or their phone was

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 8>near a location that was of interest, and they're trying

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<v Speaker 8>to narrow down who those people are and whether one

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 8>of those people could or more than one of those

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.679
<v Speaker 8>people could have been involved in the abduction. And so

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<v Speaker 8>it's a process of elimination. And you know, we in

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 8>the media sometimes want instant gratification.

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<v Speaker 2>First, guy, we're going to get them.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, Cash Bettel did a good job getting Charlie's

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<v Speaker 8>shooter right away. But sometimes you have to eliminate a

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 8>few Pif you've got four phones in the right area

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<v Speaker 8>at the right time, and we got to figure out

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<v Speaker 8>which one is which until we find the guy whose

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 8>eyes matched, who's on the camera. And I think they're

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 8>in a process of elimination right now, and that will

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 8>mean some people are going to be detained who are innocent,

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 8>some people who are going to be detained that might

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 8>ultimately be involved in the plot. But it is a

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 8>process of elimination. And it's not unlike what happens in

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 8>a case like this, where a lot of the evidence

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 8>is already cold and you've got to go back and

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 8>go to your second level of evidence to start finding people.

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 8>Second level of evidence is a little less certain, but

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.479
<v Speaker 8>it gives you a pool of people to start looking at.

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think they're in that process right now.

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and John, that's my question right because we I

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 6>remember this when you know Charlie was killed, you know

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 6>that everybody's talking about this the first forty eight hours.

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 6>This is day eleven of this, so you know, the

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 6>question then becomes, you know, how does this case get

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:18.239
<v Speaker 6>solved eleven days out from the actual crime? And you

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 6>know what is the I guess my question has really

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 6>been centered around is this cartel related? Have you heard

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 6>anybody referencing that as their concern about that? I noticed

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 6>last night on the networks, nobody was mentioning that nobody

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 6>wants to get ahead of themselves. I get that, but

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 6>this to me would be the immediate thought. But you know,

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 6>everybody keeps looking for those closest to the gut Thrie

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 6>family that might be connected in the Tucson area.

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 8>I think right now, what you see in the statements

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 8>that the sheriff has made is that they believe the

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 8>person who came to this home had some familiarity with home.

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 8>Obviously not enough familiator, because they looked like they got

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.239
<v Speaker 8>surprised by the ring camera. That's why they go get

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 8>the brush and try to get rid of the ring camera.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 8>But they seem to know the structure of the house,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 8>how to enter, and where to go run back from.

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 8>And so that tells you that this was a crime

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 8>that at least was thought out, if not from someone

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 8>that has some familiarity of the property. But that doesn't

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 8>mean that a drug cartel couldn't have cased the joint.

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 8>It doesn't mean that an insider could have been involved.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 8>It could mean someone that they met once and they

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.719
<v Speaker 8>came back to the house and realized they had a

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 8>victim of potential opportunity. They're in a phase now where

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 8>they don't have a singular theory, and I think that's

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 8>what happens.

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Eleven days out.

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 8>You start to approach a case from a cold case perspective,

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 8>just like the way the FBI produced the arrested the

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 8>January sixth bomber. After five years, you go back and

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 8>now you start to look at a wider circle of evidence.

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 8>Someone in a pattern of evidence. Someone had that ring

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 8>camera for a while, Where did that ring camera, why

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 8>it's battery was still on, What direction was that going

0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 8>and where did it last ping, What are the white

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 8>trucks that went by the house. Who has a white

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 8>truck or a white suv? Because that was what neighbors reported,

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 8>And you start looking for people that have multiple points

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 8>of evidence, but none of them are directly obviously involved,

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 8>and you start going through them and saying, could this

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 8>be the person? They have a very important piece of evidence.

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 8>They have biometrics of the eyes, and they're going to

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 8>find that person eventually by stopping someone.

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>And one of the first things we're going to do

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>is an IRIS scan to see if it matches that suspect.

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 8>And I think that that is a process is but

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 8>they're widening the circle because there isn't a singular obvious candidate.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 8>That's going to result in some misses when you do

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.239
<v Speaker 8>this sort of process of elimination. Some people are going

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 8>to be innocent, but you know, they fit some of

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 8>the data profiles and you've got to work them down.

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 8>But they're more in a cold case mode now than

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 8>they were in the first forty eight hours. When you

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 8>try to solve a crime, there's a lot of questions

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 8>about what the sheriff did and didn't do in the

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 8>early part of this investigation, why the property.

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 7>Was basically for a while. Yeah, Yeah, it was a

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 7>big is my question, John?

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 6>So there was there's been sort of a storyline here

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 6>that local officials were slow to cooperate with the Feds.

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 7>Have you confirmed that in your reporting?

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.719
<v Speaker 8>I think there's been conversations going along all throughout, but

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 8>that the sheriff's department was in the lead early on,

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 8>and then at some point the FBI comes into the

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 8>lead three to four days out. And that's not an

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 8>uncommon scenario in a local crime, particularly if you know

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 8>it looks like the local police can solve in the

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 8>first couple of days. FBI comes in an assistatory role

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 8>when you get three to four days out and when

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 8>there's a possibility that this could be a multiple person plot,

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 8>which is one of the theories here. You got the

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 8>crypto coming in, you know, the alleged crypto allegations. You

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 8>now bring in the expertise, and they bring capabilities that

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 8>a local sheriff's department has. FBI is much better at

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 8>going back and retrieving old ring footage, camera footage than

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 8>a local police would be capable. They're friendsic capabilities that

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 8>local police don't have it. So the FBI comes in

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 8>with that. That's how you get the video. The video

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 8>comes out, it starts getting people thinking, I think I

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 8>know someone that looks like that.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>He drives a white van.

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 8>Tips start coming in and then you're starting to call

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 8>that pool of suspects when you go back to the

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 8>January sixth case, and it's a classic case of solving

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 8>an old crime, and an old crime is anything outside

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 8>the forty eight hour window.

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Every lead is still hot.

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 8>They had a group of people that they saw come

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 8>in the Third Street tunnel. They had a group of

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 8>people who had phones they had in the vicinity. They

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 8>had a group of people that had some political reasons

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 8>to have concerns about January sixth, And they put all

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 8>those people on a map and you just start eliminating

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 8>till you find your guy.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's what's going on right now.

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.719
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<v Speaker 6>So about the Nancy Guthrie thing, because it's huge news.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 6>We shouldn't be having kidnappings in the United States of America.

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 6>This feels very Latin to a point. Blake Blake NEF

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 6>makes a lot on this show. Feels very Latin American

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 6>and it's so close to the border. But Dan Bongino says,

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 6>he's like, he lays out three options, you know, and

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 6>he was his former deputy director of the FBI, So

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 6>he says, one, this is either highly calculated professional crime. Two,

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 6>the initial story is not everything. It's not the full

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 6>truth that the investigators are holding back details because it's

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 6>probably messier or more explosive. I don't know if that

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 6>means it involves, you know, family members or connections that

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 6>are closer or option three. Law enforcement's completely stumped and

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 6>they just don't want to they don't want to say it.

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 7>They're scared to admit that they're that stumped.

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 6>Of those three options, where would you approximate where we're

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 6>at right now?

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 8>I think you merge one and two together and you

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.959
<v Speaker 8>probably have your best option. There's probably some professionalism to this,

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.479
<v Speaker 8>but there could be some connectivity to people who know

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 8>the family, are neew of the family and might have

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 8>reached out and got someone to do the initial kidnapping,

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 8>and then it goes a little bit south, right.

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the theory I've.

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 8>Heard most commonly in talking to law enforcement the last

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 8>couple of days. So there may be someone who knows

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 8>the family in some capacity at some time who saw

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 8>a crime of opportunity. They might have reached out to

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 8>someone to work with them to pull off that crime,

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 8>and then it seems to go south in some ways.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.479
<v Speaker 8>And that's why some of the police assess that some

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 8>of these ransom notes seem not the normal path towards

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 8>a ransom or kidnapping sort of crime, and so those

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 8>are That's what I've heard on the inside. I don't

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 8>think they're fully stumped. When you put out a video

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 8>footage and you can show the eyes of a guy,

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 8>and that means they probably have a car somewhere, it

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 8>means they probably have tracking on the ring device. When

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 8>that guy takes the ring device with him, pulls it off,

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 8>that's trackable.

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>For a period of time until the battery dies.

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 8>And then at some point people like that are going

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 8>to have pick up their cell phones and so they

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 8>have The third part is definitely true.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>They'll have more data than they put out there.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 8>But I think they're looking at a combination of someone

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 8>who had familiarly with her or the family and then

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 8>maybe bringing in someone to commit the crime. I think

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 8>that's the biggest area they're looking at right now.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.719
<v Speaker 6>All right, I want to pivot really quick here. Our

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 6>audience is really into the Fulton County story. Blake went

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 6>through the affidavit. So Judge just unsealed the affidavit that

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 6>enabled the FBI's raid on Fulton County election offices, and

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 6>you have a big piece at just the news Blake

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 6>and John tell us what you've learned, and then Blake,

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 6>I know you know this better than me, so please

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 6>chime in.

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 8>First off, Blake, great job and all the work you

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 8>do on a daily basis, you're doing amazing work. And

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 8>by the way, let's put a circle around Maricopa County.

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 8>It's the next Fulton County. I think you're going to

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 8>see some law enforcement in legal activity in Americopa County

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 8>coming in the next few weeks. It probably won't involve

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 8>the twenty twenty election, will involve the twenty twenty four election.

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 8>Keep an eye on that. That's right in your backyard.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 8>So let's watch that. What we're looking at here is

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 8>sort of the way that al Capone gets captured. Al

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 8>Capone never got prosecuted for being a mobster. They ultimately

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 8>got him because he cheated on some taxes here in

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 8>Fulton County. They're probably never going to prove that there

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 8>was shenanigans in how votes were cast, but there is

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.240
<v Speaker 8>clear evidence that the way they were supposed to follow

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 8>the law in counting the ballots and in complying with

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 8>state law to do the recounts, that there were mass

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 8>errors and that they may have tried to cover them up,

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 8>and if they covered them up, they committed fraud under

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 8>section five to twelve of the US Code, which says

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 8>that election workers must abide by state law. They can't

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 8>fraudulently fake counts or fake numbers just to make them

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 8>look like they were competent. What they're looking at is

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 8>that Fulton County was so incompetent in voting that they

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 8>mishandled the recount and the audits, and then they tried

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 8>to cover it up. That is the theory of the case.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 8>There are five. This is a very important thing. I

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 8>want everybody to go. Look at the article that Politico

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 8>did yesterday. They wrote one of the most bogus articles

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 8>in the entry. This is an old, recycled case of

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.720
<v Speaker 8>conspiracy theories that Trump people have been kicking.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Around for years. That's not what that affidavit says.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 8>The affidavit says, we looked at all those conspiracies and

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 8>we corroborated some of those concerns, and Fulton County has

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 8>admitted to us that these bad things happened, that we

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 8>double scanned ballots, that we didn't follow the certification process,

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 8>that there were other irregularities that didn't follow state law.

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 8>Those are significant emissions of wrongdoing it and now it

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 8>becomes a felony if any of the acts at the

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 8>five categories of acts that the FBI identifies there are

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<v Speaker 8>considered to be intentional, mean someone did it knowing that

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<v Speaker 8>they were going to violate the law, or they were

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<v Speaker 8>covering up something, that becomes a federal felony offense. And

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<v Speaker 8>so that's what the affidavit says. All five of those

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<v Speaker 8>issues that the FBI sided, and the bullet points at

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<v Speaker 8>the top of that are five things that justin News

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<v Speaker 8>began writing about in twenty one, twenty two, twenty three

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<v Speaker 8>to tree.

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<v Speaker 2>For all five of them.

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<v Speaker 8>We got Governor Kemp to weigh in on some of it,

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<v Speaker 8>and he made a referral Brad Rathsenberger, who once called

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<v Speaker 8>it a perfect election, later had admit it wasn't He

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<v Speaker 8>came on the show seven times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 8>All five of the things they found are things that

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<v Speaker 8>we corroborated through evidence, and now Foulton County is admitting

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<v Speaker 8>that these things happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, it's just fixating on stuff that, as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>is sort of they'll say it's debunked, and yet it

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<v Speaker 3>never quite was like they do have the strange discrepancy

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<v Speaker 3>between like ballot images. The affidavit goes on at length

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<v Speaker 3>about they had at one point seventeen eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty two missing ballot images. There's live examples of ballot

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<v Speaker 3>images that appear to show literally identical images between different ballots.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that seventeen thousand number comes up again

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<v Speaker 3>if you check the actual number of votes. President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>only lost Georgia by twelve thousand votes. This is a hyperpartment.

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<v Speaker 2>It matters.

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<v Speaker 4>But they, as you say, it is sort of the

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<v Speaker 4>al Capone type thing.

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<v Speaker 3>They repeatedly know that if they're breaking the rules on

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<v Speaker 3>how they're storing the ballots, how they're scanning them, if

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing all these process issues with it, even if

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't change a single outcome, even if it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really change a single vote, that would still potentially be

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<v Speaker 3>a federal crime.

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<v Speaker 8>It is, you got it right, Blake, That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 8>the case is. Now when it moves to Arizona, I

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<v Speaker 8>think there's going to be a different issue with the

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<v Speaker 8>integrity of where blank and actual ballots were being stored

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<v Speaker 8>in the same location.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep an eye on that.

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<v Speaker 8>That's going to be a slightly different issue than I

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<v Speaker 8>keep an eye in Michigan. Missigan's going to have some

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<v Speaker 8>interesting stuff happening pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 7>Great work, John, thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do the show, guys, my friend. Good to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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