1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the Carl Jackson Show again. 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: This is your daily dose of objective truth in a 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: world of I keep saying that to your daily dose 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: of freedom. All right, So Noman is out at DHS 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: and Tim Walls was put on the hot seat. Let 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: me just give you the skinny, if you will, on 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Christy Nome. Basically, Christy Nomans out because she made President 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Trump look bad. And it appears as though, excuse me, 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: it appears as though she lied on the stand. Let 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: me see if I can pull up the column here. 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: But basically what happened was Christy Nome had spent about 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars as the head of the DHS 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: on on advise basically, but she had subbed the She 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: had sucked the ads out. It was supposed to be 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: like an open bid and apparently, let me see here 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: she subbed it out comes after he did send it. 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Hearing in which I'm reading from Daily Wire. Non't blame 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Trump for approving questionable contracts were two hundred million dollars 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: over two hundred million for deportation ads, which raised concerns 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: about potential conflicts of interest. Now, I got to tell you, 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: I love the message in the ads like hey, if 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: you Scudato will pay you this well you know, you know, well, 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: we'll pay for your way out all of those ads. 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: I liked the message in the ad. I had no 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: idea that she was paying. We were paying over two 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars for those ad placements and for those 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: ad bys. That's insane. So you got to find a 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: cheaper way to do that type of messaging, which is 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's just it's just crazy. So basically, 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: when she was on the hot seat on the Heel 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, she said Trump, she said that 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Trump basically gave her his approval. But Trump told Reuters 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: that he had no knowledge of the expensive contracts. So 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: testified that the contracts quote went out to a competitive 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: bid and career officials at the department, and career officials 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: at the department chose who would do those advertising commercials 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: close quote. The contracts were awarded using quote other than 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: full and open competition. However, this according to The Daily Wire, 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: so the Department of Homeland Security Office of Procurement Operations 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: on behalf of the Office of DHS Public Affairs, and 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm quoting office intends to limit competition to three contractors. 42 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: That's the MIMO that went out, So it wasn't an 43 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: open bid, so a competition waiver stated that the Department 44 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: used internet research in industry publications quote unquote to identify 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Safe America Media LLC as a primary company capable of 46 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: taking on the ad campaign. So two hundred and twenty 47 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: plus or two hundred and twenty million or over two 48 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar ad campaign that Safe America Media LLC 49 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: was going to be taking on as a primary company 50 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: capable of that ad campaign. Now here's the problem. Safe 51 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: America Media was only incorporated just a few days. 52 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: Before ouch ouch. 53 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: So the Strategy Group said it quote has never had 54 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: a contract with DHS close quote adding that we quote 55 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: had a subcontract with Safe America for limited production services. 56 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: And they go on to say Safe America paid US 57 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: paid US two hundred and twenty six thousand, one hund 58 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: and thirty seven dollars seventeen cents total for five film shoots, 59 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: forty five produced video advertisements, and six produced radio advertisements. So, 60 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: in other words, the Safe Media Group subcontracted the workout 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: to a legit company. The Strategy Group, I don't know 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: where all the money went, and this does not look good. 63 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: So now you have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen that is 64 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: now going to be taking place as Department of Homeland Security, 65 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: And Guys, I gotta be honest with you. I never 66 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: thought that christinom was a great pick. But as long 67 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: as the work was being done, I was happy. I 68 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: just here's here's my general here's my general feeling when 69 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: it came when it came to Christinome, I just thought 70 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: it was too much theater. I thought it was overwhelming theater. 71 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Trump is the funniest, most charismatic person that you could 72 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: imagine having in the presidency. The guy just he loves talking, 73 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: he loves being on TV, he loves answering questions. I mean, 74 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: his personality is so big. You don't need people to 75 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: have that type of personality or that presence, you know, 76 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: or that presence in his administration. And I just felt 77 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: like Christin Homes just overdid it. 78 00:04:59,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: Now. 79 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: I do like the fact that I think he's made 80 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: people like Secretary of State Marco Rubio, I think he's 81 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: made them made him a better politician. Secretary of State 82 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio is very clear in his positions. Now it 83 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: seemed to me before that he was more moderate. I mean, 84 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: I thought he was a good senator. I never thought 85 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: he was an exceptional senator for the state of Florida. 86 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I thought he was a good I 87 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: thought he was a good senator, good to great senator. 88 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Never thought he was an exceptional And I didn't like 89 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: his two A stands. I don't like the red flag 90 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: stuff that he supported, there's no doubt about that. But 91 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: his secretary of State, I don't think you could have 92 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: picked anyone better. And I didn't believe that at first, 93 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: but once this guy, obviously working with the President and 94 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: with his knowledge of the the the geopolitical landscape, Marco 95 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: Rubio has just been absolutely phenomenal and I just never 96 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: I'm like, why would you put Department of Homeland Security. 97 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this. I didn't realize this at first, 98 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: but I mean, it's larger than the DJ I mean, 99 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: the thing is, it's just massive. And Christy Noan for 100 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: those of you that may not know, she wasn't even 101 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: that conservative when she was in when she was a 102 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: Republican in the House, she wasn't that conservative as a 103 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: as the governor, although she tried to take credit and 104 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: claimed that she was first, and she was when it 105 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: came to the COVID lockdowns, she was stronger than Desantus Abbott. 106 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: She was the first to make sure that those lockdowns 107 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: and all this COVID something come to her state. But 108 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't her, It was her state legislature that was 109 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: pushing back against her whims. So I just but whatever. 110 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: She was loyal to Trump until she threw him under 111 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: the bus yesterday, and so Trump had finally Trump had 112 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: finally had enough, And I think this is I think 113 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: they're better off for it. And I just think after 114 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: the shootings in Minneapolis, and frankly, I do believe, in 115 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, those shootings were justified, both pretty and and 116 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: renee good because I just think you when you when 117 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: you try to when you're sitting there protesting and getting 118 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: in the way and interfering in law enforcement operations, We've 119 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: gone through this before. I mean, you're you're just bound 120 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: to cause some type of trouble. And they knew that, 121 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: and they belong to those groups that wanted to, you know, 122 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: to to to interfere in law enforcement to try to 123 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: stop ice and stuff like that. But I just thought 124 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: that she just she didn't handle that well. And obviously 125 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: that puts a lot of pressure on the Trump administration 126 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: and puts a lot of pressure on Republicans. And obviously 127 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: you got a bunch of weak Republicans. And as much 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: as we want to deport people, keep in mind, U, 129 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Republicans that are weak. A lot 130 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: of people call them rhinos. Guys, there's no such thing 131 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: as rhinos. There are Republicans. There's just weak Republicans. There's 132 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: strong Republicans, so on, et cetera. 133 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 134 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: And then most of them are only as strong as 135 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: as often as you're willing to call them and or 136 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: donate to a primary competitive Uh. So you have to 137 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. But but it's just it's just 138 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: one of these things we learned. So Christy Noman is 139 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: out as head of DHS. I personally think that's a 140 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: good thing. Uh, Mark Wayne Mullen. I just hope because 141 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: there were rumors that Christy Noman almost literally were trying 142 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: to sabotage Tom Homan uh and the other uh, the 143 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: other gentleman at at ice that knew what they were doing. 144 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: And so hopefully that won't be the case with Senator 145 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen, and I don't suspect it will. I mean, 146 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: this guy has been a champion for President Trump, seems 147 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: to be a really humble guy, former mm A fighter, 148 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: business owner as well, so I think this will be 149 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: I think it'll be a good fit. And I think 150 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: he will be humble enough, given the fact that he 151 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: was so humble that he's gonna be basically the new 152 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security, assuming the Senate will confirm him, 153 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: and I believe they will. He was just so humbled 154 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: about it. He didn't even find out about it until 155 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: most most all of us found out about it, so 156 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: that was really really cool, all right. I want to 157 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: get onto Tim Walls because Tim Walls is on the 158 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: hot seat. Tim Waller should be in jail, and I 159 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: think he proved it quite frankly, but he's doing his 160 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: best to try to evade and avoid questioning and be 161 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: a smart alec and get around some questioning on the hill. 162 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: But I am really glad to learn that we are 163 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: going after this fraud and I want to see somebody 164 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: go down getting tired of the questions. But I can 165 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: appreciate at least we're getting there. There is a war 166 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: on fraud, which I was like, what's the big deal 167 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: war on fraud? But obviously Vice President J. D. Vance 168 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: was on top of it really really fast, so they 169 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: are really working on getting this fraud out of our system, 170 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: at least to the point where it's just so overwhelming 171 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: like it is in Minnesota. He came out with oh man, 172 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: what's his name, doctor mammt Oz and basically like, Hey, 173 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: we are with whole holding these medicaid payments until you 174 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: guys straighten out the fraud in Minnesota. And I love it. 175 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: So actually, when we get back, we'll just run a 176 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: litany of Tim Wall's videos because this guy, I think 177 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: he is in trouble and as well he should be. 178 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: Nick Shirley literally ended this guy's political career, or perhaps 179 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris helped end it by picking him as her 180 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: vice presidential running candidate, because this guy is a complete 181 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: and utter disaster, and perhaps people would not have paid 182 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: as much attention to him if we didn't know who 183 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: he was. But Nick Shirley, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris put 184 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: him on the put him on the map. 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This 220 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: is cutting number twenty six. He was exposed for resuming 221 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: taxpayer payments to Somali fraudsters and the Feeding our Future campaign. 222 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: For those of you guys that don't remember Feeding our 223 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: Future campaign, it was basically. 224 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: There was a white. 225 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: Liberal woman that was the mediator of the Feeding our Future. 226 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: She designed, I believe, this program, but she incorporated basically 227 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: all Somali businesses and these people would set up like 228 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: okay where even the one of the restaurants that ilhan Omar, 229 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: as you may recall, literally had a fundraising campaign at 230 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: this guy. He was one of the guys that was arrested. 231 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: But they were claiming during COVID they were feeding all 232 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: of these kids, all of these children, all of these people, 233 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: and they weren't. They were just completely lying about the 234 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: numbers and getting the money for doing so. And the 235 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: mediator lady who's in prison now, actually was getting a 236 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: kickback when she would get film money. So this is 237 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Governor Tim Wallas and they knew about this because they 238 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: were whistleblowers. Cut number twenty six, Please get. 239 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: The payments are restarted. 240 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: Why didn't you tell the truth about why you restarted 241 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: the payments? 242 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 5: Well, Chairman, we did tell you and feeding our future 243 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 5: grew because of the pandemic. 244 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 4: And asked that question, I said, why didn't you tell 245 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: the truth about why you restarted the payments? The payments 246 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: stopped because there were concerns. Obviously he wouldn't stop the payments. 247 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: Then they restarted a month later. What was the reason 248 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 4: for restarting the payments. 249 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 5: My understanding was that the agency believed that the court 250 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: had required them to make the those payments. 251 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 4: And that was false, wasn't it. 252 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: You repeated that. 253 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: He said that, didn't you? Y, that's the reason you said. 254 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: The reason you restarted is because the court ordered you 255 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 4: to do so. Is that right. 256 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 5: I don't believe that is settled yet, to the best 257 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 5: of my knowledge. 258 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think it is because the court did something 259 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: that I just don't I don't know if I've ever 260 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: seen it. They issued a statement saying you were wrong 261 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: and what you were saying. 262 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: This is from the court. 263 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: It says, feeding our Future versus Minnesota Department Education. Correcting 264 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: reports and statements by Governor Tim Walls concerning orders issued 265 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: by the court. 266 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: Here's what the judge says. 267 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: Governor Tim Walls told the media that the Minnesota Department 268 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: of Education attempted in payments to fof because of possible fraud, 269 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: but that Judge Gouthman ordered payments to continue in April 270 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. Next sentence, that is false. So you 271 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: said something wasn't true. He further states, this Judge of 272 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: gotmin The court says, this Judge Gotman never ordered the 273 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: Department of Education to resume payments defeating our future in 274 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: April twenty twenty one or at any other time. So 275 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: I want to know why didn't you tell. 276 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: The truth, Congressman. 277 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: The attorneys at the Department of Education interpreted that differently. 278 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: Both of those judges are no longer on the bench. 279 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: And I think that is the very first sentence, the 280 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: first seven words. This is not some unnamed source talking 281 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 4: to the New York Times. This is not some anonymous 282 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: source talking to whatever your Minnesota starved from being or 283 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: whatever your paper is. This is the court speaking, first sentence, 284 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: first seven words. Due to inaccurate statements by the governor, 285 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: Ramsey County District Court Judge has issued and authorized that 286 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: this following news released. That's pretty straightforward. 287 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: So the court's lion. 288 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: I can't tell you, Congressman, at the interpret. 289 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: Rise lion, somebody's lying because you can't say the court 290 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: ordered you to restart the payments, and then the court 291 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 4: says we didn't order you to restart the payments. So 292 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: either you were lying or the court's line, And I'm 293 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: just asking you which one is it. 294 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: I just simply know what the attorneys at the agency 295 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 5: believed that it was a misinterpretation, and I would note 296 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 5: that those mean. 297 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: You were trying to hide behind the court. 298 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: Governor. 299 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: Could that maybe be the reason why you issued the 300 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: statements you did and why the court had to do 301 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: something you never see done before the issue of press 302 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: statement saying you're wrong, The governor is wrong. His statement 303 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: is their words, not mine false? Could that be the reason. 304 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: That was not the interpretation of the attorneys and you know, 305 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 5: not court or work. You can appeal those Congress money, 306 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: as you well know. I'm sure they're all about politics, Governor. No, certain, 307 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: it's about taking care of our people, which Minnesota does 308 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 5: better than anyone else a million. 309 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: The Behavior Intervention Program went from three million to four 310 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: hundred million in five years. The housing stabilization went from 311 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: two point six million one hundred and four million. The 312 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: integrated Community supports went from four point six million. 313 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: It's about taking care of our people. Yet he doesn't 314 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: know where the money went. Cut number thirty one. This 315 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: is twenty seventeen one million was spent on autism in Minnesota. 316 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: That's skyrocketed to three hundred and forty three million. Notice 317 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: what this governor is doing? 318 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: All right? 319 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: He looks really dumb, and I don't think he's the 320 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: brightest bulb in the bunch by any stretch of the imagination. 321 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: But he is very smart and a lot of in 322 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: my opinion, a lot of people that play the system 323 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: are they know how to use the right wording Democrats do. 324 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: In this case, he kept using the word interpret I 325 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: interpreted that because he doesn't want to get caught. He 326 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be cuffed. Cut number thirty one, Paul 327 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: five Volter Gate. 328 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 6: Much money was spent on autism in Minnesota in twenty seventeen? 329 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Governor, I don't. 330 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: Have those numbers in front of the congressions. 331 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: Did you prepare for this hearing today? 332 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: Did you do it? 333 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: Congression? 334 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: Seriously? 335 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 6: And you've seen the numbers about autism fraud in Minnesota. 336 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 6: So we're going to do some Minnesota math with you today. Okay, 337 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 6: are you ready? How much money was spent on twenty 338 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 6: seventeen for autism in Minnesota? 339 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: How much? 340 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I wasn't the governor. 341 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 6: Okay, did you not just say that you prepared for 342 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 6: this hearing today? 343 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: One million dollar? Okay? 344 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 6: A quick Google search or using your AI could tell 345 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 6: you one million dollars was spent. How much money was 346 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 6: spent on autism in Minnesota in twenty twenty four? 347 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: I don't have a number in front of me. 348 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 3: As you governor in twenty twenty four. 349 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: I was, but I'm not the Okay, So your. 350 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 6: Excuse before that you didn't know what twenty seventeen autism 351 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 6: numbers were because you were not governor, And today you 352 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 6: can't answer the numbers about twenty twenty four as governor, 353 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 6: and you still said you're prepared for this hearing today. 354 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. 355 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 6: Three hundred and forty three million dollars was spent in 356 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. What percent increases that from one million 357 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 6: to three hundred and forty three million? 358 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: What percentage increase is that? 359 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: I'm not here to be your prop Go ahead and 360 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: tell me. 361 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: Wait, are you governor of Minnesota or not? 362 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I am. I'm not one. 363 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm governor of South Carolina. You can sure as hell 364 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 3: bet that I'm going to know the math. 365 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 6: The math is thirty four two hundred percent increase, an 366 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 6: increase of three hundred and forty three times what. 367 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: It was in this time period. Do you know the 368 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: number of children Minnesota? 369 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: I know that Minnesota ranked as a top three. 370 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 6: State for children in the lost population in Minnesota five 371 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 6: point seven million. 372 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: Okay, what is the total population of children in Minnesota. 373 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: I don't have the number in front of me. 374 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: Are you, governor of Minnesota. 375 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 5: I know four hundred thousand were cut out of health 376 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: care last week by the actions you made. 377 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: Are you governors of Minnesota? 378 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 6: I am, And you don't know the number of children 379 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 6: residing in minnesotacific numbers. 380 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: All right, So anyway back and forth with Nancy Mason. 381 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: The first part was the best in my opinion. But 382 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: one million spent on autism three hundred and forty three. 383 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: So they care about children, They care about children. But 384 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: we know these people were committing fraud and the people 385 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: weren't getting the help that they needed. So this is astonishing. 386 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: People really need to go to jail. And the scale 387 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: is much bigger, The money amount is much bigger. Everybody's 388 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: talking about even feed our futures two hundred and fifty 389 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: million dollars. I'm not convinced that it wasn't more. He Oh, 390 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: here's Brandon gil questioning Tim Walls. Let's go to cut 391 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: number forty three. Let's show this one. This is Brandon 392 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: Gil always like when he questions. 393 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 7: Yep, and would you agree that as governor, ultimately you're 394 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 7: responsible if tax dollars are defrauded. 395 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree. 396 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 7: Would you also agree that calling somebody racist is a 397 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 7: serious accusation. 398 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: If they are racist? I think I'm asking. 399 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 7: You if is that a serious accusation to make about somebody? 400 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: I think it's just an observation of reality. 401 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 7: All right, well, let's go there. Is it racist for 402 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 7: a government official? Do identify fraud? 403 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: No? No? 404 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 7: Is it islamophobic? 405 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: Do identify fraud? 406 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 7: To identify fraud? 407 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 2: I know, I don't believe it would be. 408 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 7: How come multiple whistle blow have said that your administration 409 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 7: told them not to say anything about widespread fraud across 410 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 7: multiple agencies because doing so would be considered racist or islamophobic. 411 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 5: I can't speak to it because it's not anything I 412 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 5: would say. 413 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 7: Well, that's what your administration has said and has told whistleblowers, 414 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 7: and as you just testified, the buck stops with you. 415 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 7: That's what you stated in your statement whenever you announced 416 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 7: you weren't running again. 417 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to cut number forty two, and again, 418 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: these people were just exposing this guy because the arguments 419 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: were and honestly the reason why the Feed Our Future 420 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: campaign was allowed to continue to grow and fester despite 421 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: the fraud, even when some locals caught it out, the 422 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: whistleblowers and some other people that did want to prosecute 423 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: the lady would just claim racism. And this is the 424 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: line that the Tim Walls and company would fall for 425 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: or acquiesce to, because we all know they were going 426 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: to kick back some way, shape or form, whether it 427 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: was campaign coffers, whatever it may have been. Obviously this 428 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: is what was happening happening. Do we have time actually 429 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: for cut number forty four? 430 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 8: Do you believe the seventy thousand strong Somali community as 431 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 8: a whole has made a positive impact on your state? 432 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 8: I do so, you'd be the opinion fair to say 433 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 8: that the smaller community has successfully assimilated and is making 434 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 8: Minnesota better. 435 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe they're on that path. 436 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 8: Yes, I'm just curious by what metric you'd come to 437 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 8: that conclusion. 438 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: I just looked at some hard. 439 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 8: Data, and do you have any idea what percentage of 440 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 8: the native born Minnesota's all races live in poverty in 441 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 8: your state right now? 442 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: I don't have specifically, I'll share it with you. 443 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 8: It's eight percent. For the smaller community, it's fifty two percent. 444 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 8: How about receiving food stamps. Don't all right, I'll run 445 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 8: it down with you. It's seven percent and then in 446 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 8: the compared to fifty four percent in the smaller community 447 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 8: and then don't have it, don't have at least a 448 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 8: high school diploma. For all Minnesotas, it's five percent smaller communities, 449 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 8: thirty nine percent family number there. 450 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: The reason why this is this is important is because basically, 451 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: you have a group of people that are coming to 452 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: the United States of America and they're living off the 453 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: tax the taxpayer, and we're funding it. And this simply 454 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: has to stop. Guys, I appreciate you tuning in. Don't 455 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: grow worry, doing good. God bless you.