1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: Hi from the Salvation Army. You're listening to Words of Life. 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: The words the words, these are the words of the Life. Hey, 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: and welcome back to Words of Life. As we wrap 5 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: up our back to school series, we're talking about what 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: we really pray our kids will experience this year. Of course, 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: we want them to succeed in school and make great friends, 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: but there's something even more important. That they know who 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: they are, that they know they're loved by God and 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: their parents, and that they know home is a safe 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: place to come when life gets messy. As always throughout 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: this series, check out the show notes and we'll have 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: links to plenty of resources related to what we've discussed 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: in this episode. As we're starting this new school year. 15 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: By now we're a few weeks in. What's like a 16 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: main thing that you want for your kid this year? 17 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: When you ask that question, my mind actually goes all 18 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 4: the way back to when I first became a parent, 19 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 4: because I don't think it's ever changed. When I found 20 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: out we were pregnant with our first A prayer of 21 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: my heart is I want my children to cultivate a 22 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: spirit of gratefulness period, Like, what's one thing that we 23 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: can really recognize like God is doing in this or 24 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: that you feel God in for you. Right, Sometimes that's 25 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: a very out there, like does that even work? But 26 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: I think you can at least start with prayer in that. 27 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 5: I do want them first to be kind, and I 28 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 5: think that's a that's a big, big one, And like 29 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: we were talking about before, like let your actions speak 30 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: louder than your words. You can't control what others do, 31 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 5: but you can control what you do and how you 32 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 5: know you treat others and everything, whether they're successful academically 33 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 5: or in their own way, you know, like like we 34 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: talked about before, like celebrating certain things. I think the 35 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 5: most important thing I want for my kids is that 36 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 5: they just know where their heart is grounded. That they 37 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 5: can walk into a school building and yeah, they'll hear 38 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 5: all all the other voices and everything, but if they 39 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 5: just remember where their heart is grounded. I mean, that 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: was my prayer for my kids, is that they just 41 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 5: remember what they've heard about themselves, remember what the truth 42 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 5: is about themselves, and then all those other things, you know, 43 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 5: as long as they just keep their eyes on the 44 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: Lord and Jesus, then all the other things are just 45 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 5: gonna like grow dim as the chorus says, you know, 46 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 5: fix your eyes upon Jesus. But yeah, just remember where 47 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 5: your heart lies. Remember what the Lord says about you. 48 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: That's the truth you stand on. 49 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: It's been my prayer for my kids since the oldest 50 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: started in kindergarten, that they would know God, they would 51 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: know who He is better this year than they did 52 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: last year, and that they would know themselves better this 53 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: year than they did last year. But also that they 54 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: will be a good friend, and that they will have 55 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: good friends, someone that will point them closer to Jesus, 56 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: will call them out when they're doing film things, that 57 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: will be another voice in their life that I can't 58 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: always be there with them. So know God, know themselves, 59 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: be a good friend, and have good friends. 60 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: Hey, you're listening to the Salvation armies of Words of Life. 61 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick bad break and we'll 62 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: be right back. 63 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 6: One of the common themes I'm hearing is none of 64 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 6: this happens in isolation. Our kids are connected to us. 65 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 6: Our kids are connected to their teachers, they are connected 66 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 6: to their peers, and so knowing who you are when 67 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 6: you're connected to that many people is an ongoing process. 68 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 6: But coming back to that and remembering who you are 69 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 6: and then growing alongside other people. I think we talked 70 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 6: about belonging in a previous episode. When you can find 71 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 6: that belonging in a group of friends, it's the relationships 72 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 6: that I really hope my children will remember who they 73 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 6: are in connection to their friends, that they'll challenge their 74 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 6: friends to continue growing and who they are, and that 75 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: you know, ultimately that all comes back to growth and 76 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 6: forward movement as the little you know, people of God 77 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 6: that they are. 78 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: I just had an image of like home is like 79 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: a triage center. 80 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: It really is. 81 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: We literally never know what's going to come off the 82 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 4: bus that day when our girls get off the bus 83 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: and they come home, and sometimes it's like, yeah, it's 84 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 4: a great day, they're excited, and sometimes it's like just 85 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: throwing their backpacks down and then just just passive aggressively 86 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: eating snacks from the fridge. And you know, we're glad 87 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 4: that home is a place that they find the safety, 88 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 4: the place of like I can get healed up here, 89 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: you know, and it can get messy in here. 90 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a bussing it is to be entrusted with 91 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: the lives of people. They can pour out their dirty 92 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: and their mess and you be there to pick them up. 93 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 94 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: I was thinking about my goals and I was trying 95 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: not to get emotional. And I can't guarantee that what happened, 96 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: but our daughter, she's been struggling with some serious mental 97 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: health stuff for a while, and probably I want her 98 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: to love herself. I think we forget, you know, when 99 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: we hear love your neighbors as yourself, yourself's included. 100 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: Sorry. 101 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 6: To find a reason to love yourself, you have to 102 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 6: recognize that the creative universe like absolutely loves you. And 103 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 6: if that's true, then you can get a little bit 104 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 6: closer to knowing that there is a reason to love 105 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 6: what gott made. 106 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: I'm like just trying so hard to protect this kid. 107 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: When she does like tell us about stressors or you know, 108 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: this happened in school, I think very quickly, I'm like, oh, well, no, 109 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: that's okay. 110 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 6: You can just meet a new friend. 111 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: Like I just want to like fix it instead of 112 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: just you know, being like that sucks. Yeah, you know, 113 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: like it's okay to just you know, yeah, And like 114 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: you said, I don't have the answers, like can we 115 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: just like pray about this. 116 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: Like you know, you can ride the way with them. 117 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: The foundation is there, You've taught them the skills. Now 118 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: it's time for them to just kind of fail or 119 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: feel and then you're just there writing it with them. 120 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: What is one thing every parent should remember the school year? 121 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: What's like one takeaway out of everything we've discussed that 122 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: We want a listener to walk away from today's episode 123 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: and remember. 124 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 6: Your teacher wants a box of Kleenex. Please send in 125 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 6: boxes of Clex. You probably have it over that, but 126 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 6: the Kleenex, my goodness. Sorry, that's just silly, but if 127 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 6: you want to love your child's teacher, to send in 128 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 6: I remember the happiest day was I got an entire, 129 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: like Costco size case of Kleenex and I was like, 130 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 6: Jesus might be coming back. I'm so happy. Yeah, I'm sorry, 131 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: that's silly. 132 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 3: That's fine. What do you think there's one major thing 133 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: every student needs most from their parents as a student, 134 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: not even. 135 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: Just okay, open lines of communication. Let them know you're there, 136 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 5: you're safe, you're a safe person to let Like you said, 137 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: let it get messy, and we're in this together and 138 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 5: they're not alone. Lot of times our kids just feel 139 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: like they're all alone, but they're not alone. 140 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: I think it's just what Dina said, right, someone to 141 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: ride the wave with someone that's there, someone's a listening ear. 142 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: I might not have the answers, but I'm with you. 143 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: I will walk this with you. 144 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's okay for parents to know that 145 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: they don't have to have the answer that this part 146 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: won't last forever. Yeah, well really, I mean but it does. 147 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: It is hard when you're kind of in the season 148 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: and it doesn't feel like it's going to pass. But 149 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: reminding yourself like, okay, this this will, it will, and 150 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: then you know, I think every student child it's it's 151 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: a powerful thing to feel safe, to feel like, Okay, 152 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: this is the place I can go to to fall 153 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: apart and there's nothing wrong with that. 154 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 6: You have to really recognize that, Okay, falling apart at home, 155 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 6: talking about the hard things being broken is not a 156 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 6: sign of bad parenting. Like we often think, well this 157 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 6: must reflect on me, and like this means that I 158 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 6: did something wrong. But I think we've made it very 159 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 6: clear that really all of us are learning and growing 160 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 6: and broken here. So let's do it together, as opposed 161 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 6: to you know, hiding behind our Instagram versions of ourselves, 162 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 6: and no, let's actually really work through these hard things together, 163 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 6: being honest about our shortcomings and allowing our kids to 164 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 6: feel the things that they're feeling and then expressing those 165 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 6: things to us so that they're not trying to walk 166 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 6: it alone or find other voices or other answers elsewhere. 167 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 6: So ironically, the answer is that there's not a definitive, 168 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 6: like solution of this is exactly what you have to do. 169 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 6: It's more of a being present in the moment. I 170 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 6: think it's something we can see in Jesus when we 171 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 6: look at how he lived every single day. I think 172 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 6: people wanted these black and white answers and he just said, actually, no, 173 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 6: it's about being present here and being in relationship and 174 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 6: not fixing something immediately. I'm with you about trying to 175 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 6: like offer solution to my daughter's problems. 176 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Right. 177 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 6: That really wasn't what Jesus did, was it. I think 178 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 6: he got frustrated with his disciples. Yeah, you know, I 179 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 6: think there was times where he rolled his eyes probably right, 180 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 6: But I think he was just so patient with them 181 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 6: and said, all right, we're going to go through this together. 182 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 4: Also reach out to other parents, like recognize that you 183 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: are not alone you. Actually you're part of a community 184 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: of people who are going through this. So like reach 185 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 4: out to neighbors, reach out to people in your church, 186 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: mentors that have done it before, that have been ahead 187 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: of you. Don't have to do what they do, but man, 188 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 4: is it helpful to be able to process us and 189 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: talk through things. Teachers, guidance counselors, they are just a 190 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: huge a resource for you, know, connecting you with other support. 191 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 4: So utilize the community that's around you and don't operate 192 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: in isolation because you don't have to. 193 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,239 Speaker 3: We pray that you're enjoying and being blessed by this conversation. 194 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: We're going to take one more advoc and we'll. 195 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Be right back. 196 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: As we close this series, Melissa, can I ask you 197 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: to pray over our parents, over our students, over the 198 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: school year. 199 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Father God, we thank you for the privilege it is 200 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: to be a parent, that you would entrust us with 201 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: your people, for us to help guide and raise and teach, 202 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: and so Father, we just pray now for every student, 203 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: every teacher, for every parent. We pray for wisdom, We 204 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: pray for grace, we pray for love, We pray for 205 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: friendships and people to turn to when we have questions 206 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: and when they have things that they need to just 207 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: talk out. Father, we thank you that you provide those 208 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: things for us, that you provide those people for us, Lord, 209 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: And so we just ask that when we get lost 210 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: and we don't know where to turn, Father, that you 211 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: will point those people out to us and remind us 212 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: that you are there. And we just ask for a 213 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: great school year, one that kids grow, that teachers grow 214 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: as well, that they learn not just books and not 215 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: just math and other things, Father, but they learn about 216 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: relationships and they learn how to be a better friend. 217 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: And so we thank you for all of this, Lord, 218 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: and just ask that you go with us even now, Amen, 219 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: I Amen. 220 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: The Salvation Army's mission doing the most good means helping 221 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: people with material and spiritual needs. 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