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Speaker 1: the DHS Secretary of Christyme has been fired. Senator Mark

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Speaker 1: Wayne Mullen from Oklahoma has been named as a successor.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you exactly what happened when Christinome testified

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Speaker 1: before Congress about a number of things about prioritizing violent

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Speaker 1: that effect. Listen to this exchange between Senator Kennedy and Christinome.

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Speaker 1: This is just yesterday, number fifty two.

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Speaker 2: Mastic terrorists.

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Speaker 3: And as I've said previously in this hearing, is the.

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Speaker 2: First Madam schecter.

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Speaker 3: Information from a chaotic scene on the and relaying information

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Speaker 2: Now again, those videos are public, people can draw their

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Speaker 2: you got you got some pushback on that, but that'd

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Speaker 2: be fair, Yes, sir, and get some criticism. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying the criticism was accurate or inaccurate. I think you

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Speaker 2: just you did. What got my attention was that you

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Speaker 2: you blame those statements on mister Stephen Miller at the

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Speaker 3: No, sir, I did not. And in fact, where you're

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Speaker 3: seeing that is in a news article of anonymous sources,

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Speaker 2: Well, here, here's what you said on the record. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to read you your words. Quote everything I've done.

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Speaker 2: I've done at the direction of the President and Stephen.

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Speaker 3: Sir, Where did you see me say that at You

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Speaker 3: read that in a news article with no.

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Speaker 2: Record on January twenty seventh of twenty twenty six, did

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Speaker 3: Enjoy working with the President and with Steven Miller, and

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Speaker 3: that day we were working to get as much information

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Speaker 2: And it was fair to blame mister Miller.

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Speaker 3: Sir, I did not do that. You're reading from a

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to speak to that situation that is

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Speaker 2: They're quoting you on the record saying it's Steven's fault.

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't the worst of it. There was apparently

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Speaker 2: I believe you have a policy, Madam's Secretary, that you

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Speaker 3: No, sir, I have a policy in place that I

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you do that, understand, to try to curb

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Speaker 2: waste and abuse of taxpayer money. Is that right? Yes, sir.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it's been extremely effective. We've saved the taxpayers

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Speaker 2: How do you square that concern for waste, which I share,

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Speaker 3: The President tasked me with getting the message out to

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Speaker 2: Ask you to run these advertisements, is that right?

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Speaker 3: We had that conversation, Yes, before I was put in

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you did you bid at those service contracts? Yes,

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Speaker 3: They went out to a competitive bid, and career officials

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Speaker 2: And the people that you ended up picking were people

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Speaker 2: who had formerly done your political work back in Shouth, Dakota.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: No, that's not correct, sir. No, it's not, sir. The

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Speaker 3: individuals who I believe the careers who they chose were

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Speaker 3: two different media firms. There's been conversation about their subcontractors,

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Speaker 3: but we have no legal authority to look into subcontractors

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Speaker 2: Okay, And you're saying that you're testifying that President Trump

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Speaker 3: Understand we had conversations about making sure that we were

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Speaker 2: No, man, I'm asking you a short interrupt, but the

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Speaker 2: President approved ahead of time. You spending two hundred and

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Speaker 2: which you feel are featured prominently.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we went through the legal processes.

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Speaker 2: Did it correct? Yes? He did. Yes. Okay.

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Speaker 3: One thing Senator I think would be helpful to know

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Speaker 2: Overwhelmed active in your name recognition. I mean, I personally,

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Speaker 2: that you said, mister President, here's some ads I've cut

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Speaker 2: I'm on the Appropriations Committee. I mean, my research shows

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Speaker 2: that you did not bid them out, that you, in

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Speaker 2: fact one of the people you picked, the Strategy Group.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Save America Media was a company formed eleven

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Speaker 2: have friends who are qualified. I'm not quipping with that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just it troubles me quarter a fifth to a

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Speaker 2: I just can't agree with Madam Secretary. Are you still

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Speaker 3: Senator? I did not have anything to do with picking

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Speaker 3: Did it understand all the competitive bid process for everything.

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Speaker 3: I think the ads are due to end here in March.

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Speaker 3: I think within a week. I'm not sure the one

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Speaker 7: And a lot of Democrats have looked at the Net

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Speaker 8: He's got folks the hard line that want to annex

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Speaker 8: They couldn't even I mean, we're talking about regime change

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Speaker 1: You heard it refer to Israel as an apartheid state.

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Speaker 1: He continues in Israel.

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Speaker 8: So this is I mean, you know, I want to

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Speaker 1: He also said this about the president number forty nine.

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Speaker 6: He's arbitrarily just different democratic states and cities.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it all has in common.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, and he went into democratic cities

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Speaker 9: Hey, I've been in Israel Tel Aviv. It's like San

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Speaker 10: Listen to this.

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Speaker 10: It's for the majority of our speakership.

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Speaker 11: Okay, this is a Pedestinian not affiliated with massagording to

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Speaker 10: In the seventh of October. And just before I start

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Speaker 11: You know, it's funny, mister President of US, an Egyptian

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Speaker 11: From sixty from forty eight to sixty seven, you as

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Speaker 10: Yet they never offered the state to the Palestinians to

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Speaker 11: Right now they are actually fighting for They're also fighting

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Speaker 10: They're fighting for borders of sixty seven. That's at least

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Speaker 10: what the Palestinia authority.

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Speaker 11: Wants, not like Mohammad Kurd and all the situation speakers

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 11: But here's the thing, how much I bet with you

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Speaker 10: Sea, but you are like zombies. From the rivel to

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Speaker 10: the sea, Palestine will be free. Listen carefully, if you

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Speaker 11: Free Palestine, first, free Palestine from Hannas. First, three Palestine

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you what I thought.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna pick this up on the other side. This

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Speaker 1: apartheid state. Something that Gavin Newsom just said unbelievable. This

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Speaker 1: Every society is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: I'm Larry Elder. Right now, families across Latin America and

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Speaker 1: to get to mister tall Rico, who won the Texas

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Speaker 1: primary for Senate over a Jasmine Crockett, says the Bible

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Speaker 1: be coming up. Stick around for that. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom referring to Israel as an apartheid state. This

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Speaker 1: Oxford Union Pick it Up formation.

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Speaker 11: It means that the speaker is brave and he's not

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Speaker 10: You don't worry, I will, I will allow you.

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Speaker 11: Nikola centipee centipe stump up.

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Speaker 10: Stump up in Auricle says, and who says, that's what

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Speaker 14: Which I'm fully aware of.

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Speaker 4: The forms of the House and I us to make sure.

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Speaker 11: To be honest with you, I'm not surprised, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: Just for the sacred continuance today.

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Speaker 10: Thank you very much, all right, basically what we're talking about.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think members of the opposition will afford the

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Speaker 10: Thank you, thank you all right now, just to make

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Speaker 10: But you know why I'm here.

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Speaker 10: Let's go back to my childhood. I'm an Arab is.

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Speaker 11: And when Hamason has Bulah and the run, your regime

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Speaker 11: Now, and I said, yes, I'm one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 11: All this was right up until the fourth of Oktober

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Speaker 10: It's a restaurant call owned by Arms and Jews. People

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Speaker 11: The devastating result of that terrible attack twenty one is

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Speaker 10: Of that Palestinian terrorists. From that moment, from that moment,

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Speaker 11: My decision wasn't one hundred percent, It became one million percent.

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Speaker 10: When you have Jews and Arabs together and you can

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Speaker 11: time was the time kill Arabs and Jews. Now after

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Speaker 10: I gave orders to Jewish soldiers to.

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Speaker 11: Do exactly what an Arab idea of soldiers said to do.

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Speaker 11: And then, and as I said, you keep shouting shame, I'm.

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Speaker 10: Proud of that. Proud of that, proud of that, I

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Speaker 10: You know why? And they said why because once there's.

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Speaker 11: No use of you, you're an Arab, the Jews will

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Speaker 11: When there's no use of you, the Jews will throw you.

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Speaker 11: Everybody start cheering there from the anti israel It is

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Speaker 11: me is putting Jewish lives in danger. Now, according to

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Speaker 10: But instead of that, four soldiers put me on a stretcher.

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Speaker 11: Yes, because I participated in the second eleven war fight

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Speaker 10: It up, backed up with another four.

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Speaker 11: They didn't have to do that, according to any things

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Speaker 10: It happened to me.

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Speaker 11: You want to lie, keep lying where the simple fact

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Speaker 11: the river to the sea. Because here this is me,

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Speaker 11: This is Salem Subran, an Arab judge who sent to

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Speaker 10: Both of them were Jews.

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Speaker 11: And Arab judge sent to prison a Jewish prime minister

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Speaker 10: about you know what's so amazing. There's a you know,

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Speaker 11: Well, guess what Semer Hajehya is an hour of Muslim

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Speaker 10: He was the head of the largest bank in Israel.

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Speaker 11: An hour of Muslim is the head of the largest

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Speaker 10: In a stereotype where you see that the Jews control

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Speaker 11: And how about this guy, I'll finish.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to finish.

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Speaker 6: Trump at fifty three percent, not as high as overall

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Speaker 6: approval rating, but still getting a majority of the Republican

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Speaker 6: base at least in the average of polls to say

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Speaker 6: that they still really really really like him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And why wouldn't they really really really like him?

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Speaker 1: Look what this man has done in one year, the

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Speaker 1: Uranian attacks against the three nuclear facilities, in just six days,

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Speaker 1: half of the missile launches in Iran, taken out navy

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of the ocean, superiority of the skies.

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Speaker 1: And now, by the way, the Kurds who are on

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Speaker 1: the north west bank of Iran apparently are thinking about

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Speaker 1: putting boots on the ground and entering that part of Iran.

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Speaker 1: That's not good news. And of course the border secured

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Speaker 1: in thirty days. Gas prices until the war against Iran,

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Speaker 1: five year low mortgage rates, three year low inflation now

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Speaker 1: two and a half percent, down from the average five

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Speaker 1: percent in the last four years, down from the peak

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Speaker 1: of nine percent, putting the military or National Guard in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: dramatic declines and homicides and shootings and carjackings, putting DEI

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Speaker 1: in retreat. Getting our NATO allies to pay five percent

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Speaker 1: of their GDP for their own defense. Unbelievable what this

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Speaker 1: man has done in just one year. He is enormously

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Speaker 1: popular by the base. Triple eight ninety seven one s

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Speaker 1: A GE.

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Speaker 8: So let's get her teed up.

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Speaker 10: Set to.

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Speaker 5: That subdgo Triple.

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Speaker 1: Eight ninety seven one s A g E. Triple eight

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Speaker 1: ninety seven one seven two four three Larry Elder, Salem

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Speaker 1: News Channel. My guest is I guess you'd call her

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Speaker 1: an American activist who opposes gender affirming care for minors

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Speaker 1: supports a band on such care following her own d transition.

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Speaker 1: She's born here in California Central Valley. Growing up, she

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Speaker 1: was a self described tomboy who didn't fit social norms,

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Speaker 1: sought medical advice, began transitioning at the age of twelve.

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Speaker 1: At the age of thirteen, began undergoing treatment, including puberty blockers,

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Speaker 1: to stosterone and underwent a double mess dectomy at the

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Speaker 1: age of fifteen. She began regretting her decision, realizing that

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Speaker 1: medical professionals had pressured her and her parents into accepting

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Speaker 1: the transitioning. Starting in twenty twenty two, she began testifying

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Speaker 1: before the United States Congress against medical transition and began

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Speaker 1: denouncing gender affirming care for minors. I should point out

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Speaker 1: that the American Society of Plastic Surgeries has changed its

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Speaker 1: position and is now opposing gender related surgeries for patients

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Speaker 1: under the age of nineteen. Please welcome to the program,

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Speaker 1: Chloe Cole.

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Speaker 15: Focus on much problem.

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Speaker 1: Chloe, It is my pleasure. Did I pretty much get

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Speaker 1: the introduction right?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 16: I mean that was pretty spot on, and I think

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Speaker 16: that I think it gives all the information that.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 15: About Sorry about that, I had a little I had.

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Speaker 16: A sorry I was having some connection issues right there.

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Speaker 1: See, Okay, I have that effect on people, Chloyd. Don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it. Tell us about your childhood, tell us

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Speaker 1: about growing up. Tell us about the fact that you

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Speaker 1: describe yourself as a tomboy and just your your whole journey.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about that.

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Speaker 16: Yes, so from a pretty young age, I growing up

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Speaker 16: with so many older siblings, I tended to gravitate a

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Speaker 16: little bit more towards the personalities and interest of my

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Speaker 16: older brothers. I loved video games, I loved going out

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Speaker 16: and exploring. I just loved being in masculine company. And

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Speaker 16: I felt like I found I found a lot more

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Speaker 16: comfort with them, and the older that I got, the

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Speaker 16: more difficult I found it to relate to other other women,

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Speaker 16: other girls.

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Speaker 15: My age, and I just felt so.

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Speaker 16: Distant from my own femininity, and a lot of it

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Speaker 16: was in very superficial ways. I did not like wearing

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Speaker 16: makeup for most of my life. I didn't like wearing

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Speaker 16: feminine clothing. I found it very uncomfortable. But I also

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Speaker 16: just it felt like there was something that was lacking

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Speaker 16: in my connection with the women around me. But I

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Speaker 16: never really thought of this as something that made me

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Speaker 16: bad or different. It was just something that made me unique.

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Speaker 16: It was something It was a shrink that I had

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Speaker 16: until around the time that I started hitting puberty, which

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Speaker 16: happened a little bit earlier for me. I was about

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Speaker 16: nine years old and I was the first in my

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Speaker 16: class to really start physically developing, and with that came

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Speaker 16: a lot of unwanted attention and a lot of questions

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Speaker 16: about what the responsibilities would be once I went from

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Speaker 16: just being a little girl into a full fledged woman.

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Speaker 16: And the more that I was hearing about in this

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Speaker 16: culture of today that I grew up in, about what

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Speaker 16: it means to be a woman, a lot of it

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Speaker 16: seemed very superficial. A lot of it was about I

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Speaker 16: thought it was. I thought that the best things about

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Speaker 16: being a woman would be beauty or these other superficial

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Speaker 16: things that never really mattered to me. And I thought

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Speaker 16: that my body was going to be a burden. I

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Speaker 16: thought that for I would just be having periods and

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Speaker 16: having to worry about pregnancy, and before I would before

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Speaker 16: I knew how much those things would actually mean to me.

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Speaker 16: I didn't know yet how much I would eventually go

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Speaker 16: on to want to become a mother and value those

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Speaker 16: parts of myself because I still very much was a child,

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Speaker 16: and I was led to believe that I was a

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Speaker 16: young man rather than a young woman at around the

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Speaker 16: age twelve, and I learned about this idea of transgenderism

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Speaker 16: through social media.

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Speaker 1: Were you talking to your mother, your father, your brother's

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Speaker 1: about your feelings while you were experiencing these feelings.

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Speaker 16: I wasn't really close to anybody in particular at this time.

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Speaker 16: I had friends at school, sure, but even my own

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Speaker 16: family members, I just never you. I never really spoke

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Speaker 16: to you about these things, because for most of my

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Speaker 16: life I had I hated the idea of talking to

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Speaker 16: people about things that I found found difficult in my

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Speaker 16: life because I didn't know if anybody could help me.

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Speaker 15: And this was until a few months.

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Speaker 16: After I decided to that I was a young man

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Speaker 16: rather than a woman, that I decided to tell everybody

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Speaker 16: about it, because I thought, well, the way that people

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Speaker 16: are going to see me is going to change, and

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Speaker 16: that is something that I want to happen. And I'm

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Speaker 16: I was never destined to be a woman. I was

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Speaker 16: supposed to be a young man. I just so happened

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Speaker 16: to be in the wrong in the wrong body. And

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Speaker 16: the longer that people see me this way, I naively

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Speaker 16: thought that it.

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Speaker 15: Would feel horrible for me, that it was.

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Speaker 16: Unnatural for me to even be seen by other people

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Speaker 16: as a young woman because and on some level, I

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Speaker 16: wasn't born that way.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Chloe talked to us about what you saw

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Speaker 1: online that made you start believing that maybe just maybe

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Speaker 1: you were in the wrong body. What was it that

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Speaker 1: you saw?

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Speaker 16: What I saw online began with things that pretty much

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Speaker 16: anybody my age, things around memes, things around.

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Speaker 15: Just pop culture stuff.

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Speaker 16: Like TV shows and books and musicians that people listened to,

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Speaker 16: and nothing that I was seeing was really out of

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Speaker 16: the ordinary, except the more that I went into these

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Speaker 16: communities were based around my own personal interests of these things,

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Speaker 16: the more that there was an ideological component behind all

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Speaker 16: but that I began to notice, and it was mostly

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Speaker 16: other kids my age who were pushing for it, interestingly enough,

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Speaker 16: and the more that I that I interacted with and

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Speaker 16: spoke to these kids, the more that I was learning

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Speaker 16: about these primarily leftist ideas of things. Feminism or queer theory,

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Speaker 16: and especially transgenderism was what caught my attention to the most,

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Speaker 16: because it was very novel at the time in a

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Speaker 16: way that was almost intellectually simulating, and also very very

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Speaker 16: personal to me, because these other kids would talk about

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Speaker 16: feeling like they never had a place to fit in,

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Speaker 16: like they weren't even like people of their own sex,

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Speaker 16: and eventually they found this sense of identity that they

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Speaker 16: were looking for throughout their lives. And I might not

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Speaker 16: have realized at the time, but I had those exact

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Speaker 16: same feelings, and I began to wonder why I related

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Speaker 16: to these people so much, and that it was that

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Speaker 16: questioning that led to me believing that I actually was transgender,

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Speaker 16: that my gender somehow was something separate from my sex,

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Speaker 16: and that in order to solve this feeling of discomfort

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Speaker 16: I had, I had to stop my puberty, and I

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Speaker 16: had to deny myself of my body, of basic reality

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Speaker 16: and going down this path of experimental medicine for life.

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Speaker 1: So, Chloe, you said this to our that you were

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Speaker 1: not close to anybody really in your family. There was

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Speaker 1: nobody to say, Chloe, all teenagers feel angst, all teenagers

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Speaker 1: feel that they don't fit in, All teenagers feel awkward socially.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing deep, it's something that you're just going through.

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Speaker 1: There was nobody around to say that to you. And Chloe,

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Speaker 1: had someone said that to you, wouldn't have sunk in.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I did have members my family actually who

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Speaker 16: did pushback.

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Speaker 15: My mom and dad definitely did.

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Speaker 16: They were very sensible about it, and one of my

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Speaker 16: older brothers was one of the biggest opponents of this

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Speaker 16: in my own life. And you made that very clear,

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Speaker 16: but it brought a lot of tension in our relationship,

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Speaker 16: and my mom and dad were such a loss of

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Speaker 16: what to do because on one hand, they could see

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Speaker 16: what I was going through, and they knew They figured

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Speaker 16: that a lot of it came down to me essentially

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Speaker 16: going through a phase as children and teenagers tend to,

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Speaker 16: and that I eventually would very likely grow out of

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Speaker 16: it as long as I was just given the time

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Speaker 16: to really think through it and to just live through,

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Speaker 16: just live and grow up. But they were not given

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Speaker 16: that chance. We were not given that chance as a family.

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Speaker 16: They my mom and dad decided that the best course

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Speaker 16: of action might be to we might as well see

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Speaker 16: a therapist, because this clearly was a psychological issue that

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Speaker 16: I had, and certainly these psychologists would help me with

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Speaker 16: whatever was going on underneath that was causing this confusion

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Speaker 16: in my life. But I think as reasonable as that

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Speaker 16: expectation was, my mom and dad unfortunately were absolutely wrong

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Speaker 16: about that. And I don't blame them, because most parents

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Speaker 16: who are dealing with this with their kids don't expect

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Speaker 16: that they're going to be going up against an ideologically

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Speaker 16: captured medical system the way that they did.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here we come back. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about the therapist and about

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Speaker 1: your seeing a professional and the treatment that you underwent.

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Speaker 1: I also want to ask you what kind of students

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Speaker 1: you were. Were you a good student? Did you fit

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Speaker 1: in well? Did you play activities? Were you in sports?

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Speaker 1: Were you in other extracurrical activities? You seem so extremely,

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Speaker 1: extremely bright, So all these questions coming up next. Triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one s A G E. Triple eight

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Speaker 1: nine seven seven two four three. It's actually a bill

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Speaker 1: called the Chloe Cole Bill that is being debated right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to my guest about that as well. Again,

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Speaker 1: she has been described as a D transitioner. I also

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Speaker 1: want to ask you what that what that term means.

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Speaker 1: Chloe Coled Don't go away. Triple eight nine seven one

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Speaker 1: s A g E. Triple eight nine seven one seven

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Speaker 1: two four three. My guest is Chloe Cole, a self

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Speaker 1: described D transitioner. Chloe, talk to us about what kind

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Speaker 1: of students you were growing up? What were your.

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Speaker 15: Interests I had?

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Speaker 16: I was always an avid reader growing up as a kid.

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Speaker 16: I would even read through the entire textbooks that we

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Speaker 16: were given in the very first month of school, pretty

880
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 16: much every school year, and I would always be disappointed

881
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 16: every time that there wasn't more material to read, and

882
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 16: it would even get to the point that my teachers

883
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 16: would like punish me for reading a head so far

884
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 16: ahead of other students. But I also have always been

885
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 16: the creative type. I've loved writing about different things. I

886
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 16: loved creating my own stories, and especially drawing has been

887
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 16: one of my biggest hobbies throughout my life. But I

888
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 16: did struggle a little bit in school as bride of

889
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 16: a kid as I was, because I always hated being

890
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 16: placed into a mold, and I didn't struggle with the

891
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 16: curriculum per se. I just felt like I wanted to

892
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 16: have a little bit more meaning in the things that

893
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 16: I was doing every day, even from a young age.

894
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: Let me put it plainly, bored.

895
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 15: You were I was. I was very bored.

896
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know a lot of people that are really,

897
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: really bright and they're just bored like crazy. That strikes

898
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: me as as what happened with you. Let's talk about

899
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: your therapist. So you meet a therapist who found a therapist.

900
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 16: So my mom and dad actually found a therapist and

901
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 16: a few psychologists over the years through through our healthcare

902
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 16: provider Kaiser Permanente, which actually touts itself to this day

903
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 16: as one of the top providers for care for transgender

904
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 16: children in the state of California, and my mom and

905
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 16: when my mom and dad found them, or when they

906
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 16: found this out, they thought what care meant was that

907
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 16: I would be getting psychological counseling through my feelings and

908
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 16: not pushed down this path of experimental, lifelong and life

909
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 16: altering medication. They were told that by the same doctors

910
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 16: who they entrusted with my life, that if I struggled

911
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 16: with these feels any longer, if we kept going years

912
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 16: without intervention, then I would be at risk of taking

913
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 16: my own life because the genderness for you would be

914
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 16: so great that it would make me fail to thrive.

915
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 5: Wow.

916
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: Prior to this, Chloe, had you had suicidal thoughts.

917
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 16: I was not suicidal, and at times I was depressed

918
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 16: because I struggled to make friends and I was really

919
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 16: trying to find meaning and purpose in my life. But

920
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 16: the only thing that I ever wanted was to find

921
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 16: a better life. I didn't become suicidal until after I

922
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 16: began the transition process, and they kept increasing the doses

923
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 16: of the drugs that I was on.

924
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: So let's back up talk to us about the therapist

925
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: male female.

926
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 16: So the first therapist that I had was a male

927
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 16: and I only had him for about a month, but

928
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 16: my mom and dad and I were equally frustrated with

929
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 16: him because sure, he referred to me as the sex

930
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 16: that I wanted him to call me by, he called

931
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 16: me the name that I wanted him to, but that

932
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 16: was about all he did. There was no exploration at

933
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 16: all of the underlying feelings that I had. Now, once

934
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 16: we were onto the next therapist, that was when the

935
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 16: ball started moving, but unfortunately it wasn't really in the

936
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 16: right direction.

937
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 15: Rather than.

938
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 16: She made the same mistake as the previous therapist for

939
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 16: few not really properly examining what was causing these feelings

940
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 16: for me, but instead affirming them and saying, well, the

941
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 16: reason why she feels this way is actually because she

942
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 16: is transgender. She is a boy, and there is simply

943
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 16: no other choice for your daughter.

944
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: She told my mom and dad, Wow, Wow, your counseling

945
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: sessions are they one on one or are your parents

946
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: involved in the sessions?

947
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 16: So they were primarily one on one, but my mom

948
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 16: and dad actually got frustrated about the lack of information

949
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 16: that were they are being given for my doctors around

950
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 16: my mental state and watching me go into eighth grade

951
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 16: because coming more to pressed war isolated. So they decided,

952
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 16: we're going to speak to the doctors ourselves see and

953
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 16: find an answer for ourselves.

954
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 15: And that was the answer.

955
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 16: They were told that there was no other choice and

956
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 16: that it was transition or suicide for me.

957
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 1: So then what happens next You go and see someone

958
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: and you began treatment.

959
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 16: My mom and dad felt like they couldn't push back

960
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 16: any further once they were told multiple times that my

961
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 16: life was going to be on the line, and frankly,

962
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 16: I can't blame them given that they weren't giving any

963
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 16: other choice. What happened next was that the therapist referred

964
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 16: us out to an anochronologist who then spoke to us

965
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 16: about administering hormones and puity blockers to go around my

966
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 16: natural puberty and make me appear and develop more like

967
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 16: a young man. And at thirteen years old before even

968
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 16: graduate from middle school, that is when I began the

969
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 16: two drugs that I was placed.

970
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: On and tell us about the drugs.

971
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 16: So the first drug that they put me on was

972
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 16: called lupron, and this previously has been used to treat

973
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 16: things like precocious puberty in the cases of children who

974
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 16: are extremely young and already undergoing sexual development, to give

975
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 16: them more time to experience childhood and avoid the more dangerous.

976
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 15: Effects of going through puberty so young.

977
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 16: It's also been used as a cancer drug and to

978
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 16: chemically cash straight sex offenders. Yet I always being giving

979
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 16: this as a perfectly healthy young child, and so I

980
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 16: started to experience menopause while I was still in middle school,

981
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 16: and it was extremely uncomfortable to be on It stopped

982
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 16: my puberty completely, and very shortly after that was when

983
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 16: I was put on high doses of androgens that they

984
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 16: increased over the years. So I started developing a little

985
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 16: bit of facial hair, my face started becoming more angular.

986
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 16: I've had permit changes to my bone structure. It's made

987
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 16: my top half a little bit wider, prevented my body

988
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 16: from developing more femininely, and even gave me more muscle,

989
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 16: and also of course influenced my behavior and my emotions

990
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 16: at the time in ways that at first were almost

991
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 16: like almost to regulate my mood, almost made me feel

992
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 16: the sense of elation that they often referred to as

993
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 16: gender euphoria. But eventually I became very prone to a

994
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 16: bouts of rage, being upset, and it was actually something

995
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 16: that I ended up getting in the way of my

996
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 16: relationship with people because it made me so emotionally unstable.

997
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 16: While I was on these drugs, I was never supposed

998
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 16: to be in the first place.

999
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: So, Chloe, as your personality is changing, your attitude is changing,

1000
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: your mood is changing. Your parents must have seen this,

1001
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: and what was their reaction.

1002
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 16: At first, I seemed to be happier, I had a

1003
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 16: more regular sense of mood. Was I told everybody that

1004
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 16: I was happy because I didn't know anybody, and I

1005
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 16: was finally seeing changes in my life after years of

1006
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 16: being kind of an awkward, outcast girl. I was finally

1007
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 16: making friends and I even went to my high school

1008
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 16: years looking and sounding just like any other young man.

1009
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 16: So for the most part, people had no idea who

1010
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 16: I actually was. But then, after about a year or

1011
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 16: so of being on these drugs and living this lifestyle,

1012
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 16: it became such a burden on me. I started to

1013
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 16: feel depressed again, even worse than I was before. I

1014
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 16: felt even more meaningless because I was having to live

1015
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 16: with the weight of telling everybody lies every day about

1016
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 16: who I was, including myself.

1017
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 15: I was lying to myself about.

1018
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 16: The way that I was born, and none of my doctors,

1019
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 16: nobody within the transient community had ever told me, you

1020
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 16: can go back and it'll be okay. In fact, it'll

1021
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 16: be better for you to go back, because you are

1022
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 16: far to be too young to be doing this and

1023
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 16: it's not actually going to help you. The answer that

1024
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 16: I was given when I was continuing to go through

1025
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 16: this depression was that maybe I should go further.

1026
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 15: I did.

1027
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 16: I had surgery at the age of fifteen, well before

1028
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 16: I had a first kiss, before I could even drive

1029
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 16: a car. I had a double mastectomy, get rid of

1030
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 16: my breasts.

1031
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: We're going to pick it up from there. My guest

1032
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: is Chloe Coole. We're going to talk about your double

1033
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: mess dectomy that you underwent at the age of fifteen.

1034
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: Don't go away. Triple eight nine seventy one, s H

1035
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: G E. Larry Elder, Sailors Chain Triple eight ninety seven one,

1036
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: Sage Triple eight nine seven one seven two four three.

1037
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: I am Larry Yelder. My guest is Chloe Cole, a

1038
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: self described d transitioner. So, Chloe, you said that you

1039
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: went even further at the age of fifteen. We're talking

1040
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: about a double mass dectomy. That is a major, major move. Obviously, again,

1041
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: your parents, your brothers, what did they say about this?

1042
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 16: My mom and dad actually pushed back against this, and

1043
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 16: they were told once again the same answer by the

1044
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 16: doctors that I could not survive if I didn't go

1045
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 16: undergo this intervention as young as I was, and to

1046
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 16: have my life threatened again by the doctors. They used

1047
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 16: the single biggest slide that any parent could have regarding

1048
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 16: their child outliving their child, and my mom and dad

1049
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 16: felt like they had no other choice but to allow

1050
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 16: me to go to do this, as much as it

1051
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 16: went against their instincts and as much as they were right. Unfortunately,

1052
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 16: and my brother it absolutely broke his heart to see

1053
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 16: me in the state that I was, and to see

1054
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 16: me go further into it, to see me after the surgery,

1055
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 16: to see the scars on my chest afterward, was something

1056
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 16: that broke his heart for years. And it turned out

1057
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 16: the surgery would actually be the turning point for me

1058
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 16: when I realized that all of this was a mistake

1059
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 16: that I should have never gotten. I should have never

1060
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 16: done any of this, I should have never been led

1061
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 16: into these decisions by doctors, but also that it wasn't

1062
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 16: my fault and that there was hope for me afterward.

1063
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 16: The grief that I was experiencing realizing that I may

1064
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 16: not be able to have children as an adult, that

1065
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 16: my men's's name may never be able to come back,

1066
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 16: and I'll never be able to breastie my children was

1067
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 16: horrific for such a long time, But it also was

1068
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 16: what gave me the courage to step back, to re

1069
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 16: evaluate everything, and to go against the grain so that

1070
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 16: my life could become better again, so that I could

1071
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 16: re embrace the way that God beautifully created me and

1072
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 16: I would be able to find a new normal. And

1073
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 16: I decided that I didn't want to stay silent about it.

1074
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 16: I knew that the transgender community would be very angry

1075
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 16: at me for it, that I would be going up

1076
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 16: against an industry in a way that would seem like

1077
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 16: kind of a Siscifian task honestly, but I was determined

1078
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 16: to take it down because I knew that I was

1079
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 16: not the only child that they experimented on. I had

1080
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 16: seen those other kids in the hospital system. I had

1081
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 16: met other day trying, and I knew that now was

1082
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 16: my time.

1083
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 15: It was now or never if I wanted to create change.

1084
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: Chloe can be back up the doctor who performed the

1085
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: double masted act to me. The doctor didn't say to you,

1086
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: you know this is irrevocable. You may regret this. I've

1087
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: never done this before, and somebody as young and as

1088
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: smart as you are, maybe you should rethink this. Did

1089
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: that happen?

1090
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 16: So for all of the medical interventions, there was very

1091
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 16: brief conversation about some of the potentially expected effects, mainly

1092
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 16: in a positive light, but of course, I mean doctors

1093
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 16: are required to list off some of the potential complications

1094
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 16: that could result as a consequence of them, but it

1095
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 16: wasn't comprehensive enough. I've experienced to this day. I experienced

1096
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 16: complications from all three of the main treatments, and most

1097
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Speaker 16: of which were never even listed but are commonly understood

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Speaker 16: to happen after years of being on them or going

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Speaker 16: through them. No matter how much a doctor would tell me,

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Speaker 16: it wouldn't matter because I was still a child. I

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Speaker 16: hadn't lived yet, I hadn't even made it to adulthood.

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Speaker 16: I had never had a romantic relationship. I didn't know

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Speaker 16: who I was, because no kid does.

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Speaker 1: When did you regret it? Was there a moment or

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Speaker 1: was it gradual?

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Speaker 16: It was very gradual over time. I mean there's a

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Speaker 16: honeymoon period that happens after pretty much every single one

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Speaker 16: of the treatments, and once you start to look more

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Speaker 16: like the opposite sex. But eventually that goes away. It

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Speaker 16: becomes another part of your life. The novelty stops, and

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Speaker 16: you may realize that it's actually something that's causing you

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Speaker 16: great harm for life. And it was when I realized

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Speaker 16: that that was exactly what was happening that led to

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Speaker 16: me regretting every single part of it. But it also,

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Speaker 16: as hard as it was during that point in time,

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Speaker 16: going through that kind of trauma at the age of sixteen,

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Speaker 16: I also knew that even if it didn't feel like it,

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Speaker 16: then I was going to be able to find hope

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Speaker 16: after that, after that, and I would be able to

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Speaker 16: use my experiences and everything that my family and I

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Speaker 16: had went through for the greater good.

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Speaker 1: We only have another minute left in this segment. Chloe.

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Speaker 1: Now you're still in high school and all this is happening.

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Speaker 1: How are your classmates treating you? And you're absent a lot.

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Speaker 1: When you come back, what's the reaction.

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Speaker 16: A lot of them actually knew me as a young

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Speaker 16: man for the entire time that they that we were friends.

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Speaker 16: So it was very jarring to see me come back

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Speaker 16: from being an admittedly very masculine person to a very

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Speaker 16: awkward and really unhealthy looking person who at the time

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Speaker 16: didn't look very feminine. And a lot of them were

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Speaker 16: there very sympathetic, but also a lot of them were

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Speaker 16: found found it very strange, and some of them were

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Speaker 16: very left wing. They found my d transition and my

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Speaker 16: changes in ideology and philosophy around it very uncomfortable, and

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Speaker 16: they went as far as to cut me off.

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Speaker 1: Let's pick it up from there, Chloe Cole, it's my guest, Chloe,

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Speaker 1: don't go away. Triple eight nine seven one s eight

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four three. I am

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Speaker 1: Larry Yelder. We are Salem NewsChannel, coming to you from

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Speaker 1: the Relief Actor Studio. Don't Forget your Relief Actor eight

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Speaker 1: dot com, This Relief Factor dot com. Chloe Coole is

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Speaker 1: my guest. So, Chloe, I asked you when you kind

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Speaker 1: of went back and you said your classmates kind of

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Speaker 1: only knew you as a male, what name did you use?

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Speaker 16: I was kind of lazy with the name I chose. Actually,

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Speaker 16: I just took my birth name and I plucked three

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Speaker 16: letters out of it and called myself Leo instead of Chloe.

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Speaker 1: I see, so you gradually realized that you'd made a mistake,

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Speaker 1: and at that point, what do you do about it?

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Speaker 15: I was paralyzed for a little bit.

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Speaker 16: I didn't really know what I could do about it

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Speaker 16: because I didn't know if this was something that I

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Speaker 16: was just experiencing, and I had no guidance on it

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Speaker 16: at all, even from my own doctors. But I really

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Speaker 16: had to figure it out all my own. I didn't

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Speaker 16: know if there is a word for what I was

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Speaker 16: going through. But eventually I put two and two together

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Speaker 16: and decided that this is going to be a d transition.

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Speaker 16: I don't even know. I was so confused at the time,

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Speaker 16: and I didn't know whether to call myself a man

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Speaker 16: or a woman or whatever I could call myself anymore.

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Speaker 16: But I knew that I wasn't transgender. I knew that

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Speaker 16: this just hurting me, but I kept naturally gravitating towards

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Speaker 16: femininity for whatever reason, and eventually I discovered that I

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Speaker 16: wasn't the only person who was in the situation. That

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Speaker 16: there was a community dedicated to thousands of people all

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Speaker 16: over the world who were going through the same thing,

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Speaker 16: who regretted their transition, and we're searching for a new

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Speaker 16: life after the facts.

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Speaker 15: And it was these older.

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Speaker 16: Men and women who helps helped me through this experience,

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Speaker 16: helped me to understand that I wasn't broken, that I

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Speaker 16: was being made anew in this choice, and that gave

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Speaker 16: me the strength that I needed in order to move

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Speaker 16: forward and to move into public advocacy for the protection

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Speaker 16: of children for parental rights going forward.

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Speaker 1: I sense that the medical community is also rethinking all

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Speaker 1: of this as well, and the idea of performing these

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Speaker 1: kinds of treatments and surgery on miners is increasingly becoming

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Speaker 1: something that I believe the medical community is opposing. Is

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Speaker 1: that your position do do you feel the same.

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Speaker 15: Way I do?

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Speaker 16: And I don't necessarily feel like their heart is all

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Speaker 16: the way in it either. I feel like this has

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Speaker 16: come after years of pressure and especially after the Trump

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Speaker 16: administration has put down their foot on this issue in

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Speaker 16: protecting children, which has been a total breath of fresh air,

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Speaker 16: especially after the Biden administration has done everything that they

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Speaker 16: could have to further this. And I think that this

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Speaker 16: is in response to not just the laws they're passing

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Speaker 16: and to the policies that are being made, but also

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Speaker 16: to the fact that people like me have been coming

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Speaker 16: out for years voicing the damages that have occurred to

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Speaker 16: them and threatening the threatening the wallets of these doctors,

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Speaker 16: of these medical corporations that continue to abuse children and

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Speaker 16: young people in the name of so called gender refirming care. You,

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Speaker 16: I think they're very afraid, and I think they should be.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the Chloe Cole Act.

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Speaker 16: So I have been working for years on statewide legislation

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Speaker 16: now across a few dozen states to protect children from

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Speaker 16: these patures, the pubery blockers, the cross sex hormones, and

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Speaker 16: the surgeries. But there are so many other states that

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Speaker 16: do not have comprehensive laws, or they're going all the

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Speaker 16: way in the opposite direction, including our own.

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Speaker 15: For our own home state.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, especially our own especially place.

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Speaker 17: We.

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Speaker 16: If we want to stop this industry completely. If we

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Speaker 16: want to make sure that not just to select few

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Speaker 16: children in America are safe, but every single American child

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Speaker 16: will be saved from what my generation has gone through,

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Speaker 16: we need to pass the Chloe Coal Act because it

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Speaker 16: will make these procedures completely illegal across the board all

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Speaker 16: over the US, and it will make sure that every

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Speaker 16: child who has already been harmed will be able to

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Speaker 16: seek justice for themselves through the legal system.

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Speaker 1: And as you probably know, the Supreme Court just struck

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Speaker 1: down the band that California I try to impose on

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Speaker 1: teachers informing their parents that they're ki kids think of

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Speaker 1: themselves as a different gender. Gavin Newsome supportive that's banned

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Courts that you can't do that. If teachers

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Speaker 1: want to tell parents, they should be able.

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Speaker 4: To do that.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I mean, one of the biggest problems happening with

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Speaker 16: this issue is that there are so many parents who

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Speaker 16: are dealing with this on a scale that we can't

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Speaker 16: even imagine. Everywhere I go, everywhere I speak at, whether

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Speaker 16: it be churches, at legislative hearings, or.

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Speaker 15: At at college events, I have so.

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Speaker 16: Many parents, so many family members coming up to me

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Speaker 16: asking you for how to help their children do this,

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Speaker 16: and a lot of schools in our state, of course,

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Speaker 16: are secretly socially transitioning children behind the backs of their parents.

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Speaker 16: But this is a psychological intervention that these teachers and

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Speaker 16: these staff members are giving to children without any credentials

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Speaker 16: and without the knowledge of the parents.

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Speaker 15: And if we truly want to.

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Speaker 16: Empower children, have to empower the adults around them with

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Speaker 16: the knowledge of what is happening in their lives emotionally,

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Speaker 16: so that they can be involved.

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Speaker 1: Chloe, you are suing Kaiser Permanente. Tell us about the

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Speaker 1: lawsuit was the status of the lawsuit.

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Speaker 16: So I have chosen to sue all of my doctors

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Speaker 16: who were involved in my transition, as well as Kaiser Permanente,

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Speaker 16: because they don't intend for me to be their last victim.

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Speaker 16: I deserve justice for the lifelong pain that they have

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Speaker 16: put me through, and so does every child I want

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Speaker 16: to be. I want to make it so that there

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Speaker 16: was a precedent for every family, every young boy and

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Speaker 16: girl who has been hurt in the name of transgenderism.

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Speaker 16: I filed suit a few years ago, but it's been

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Speaker 16: quite a bit of an uphill battle, as Kaiser has

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Speaker 16: been trying to bury my case with every method they could.

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Speaker 16: But the State of California has decided that my case

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Speaker 16: is going to go to trial.

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Speaker 18: Ends.

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Speaker 16: We are going to courts next next year, on April fifth.

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Speaker 1: One minute left in this segment, Chloe, have any of

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Speaker 1: the doctors, any of the medical professionals, any of the

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Speaker 1: therapists along this transition, along this line your journey, have

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Speaker 1: any of them apologized to you?

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Speaker 15: No, In fact, they doubled down.

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Speaker 16: Many of them told me, well, I didn't think that

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Speaker 16: it was a problem at the time because somebody else

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Speaker 16: signed off on it, or some of them even said, well,

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Speaker 16: you're still transitioning. This is just a continuation of your

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Speaker 16: gender journey, rather than trying to counsel me and help

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Speaker 16: me and understand the way that I was created. And

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Speaker 16: they are these these are medical professionals who know better,

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Speaker 16: who know that children can't consent or they can't understand

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Speaker 16: these very adult decisions, and they deserve to be held

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Speaker 16: accountable for what they have done.

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Speaker 1: We come back. I know that you attended the State

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Speaker 1: of the Union. When I ask you about that, I'm

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Speaker 1: you should. And we're going to also talk about how

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Speaker 1: people can support you and your activism. So Chloe Cole,

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Speaker 1: Channel for the last few minutes with Chloe Cole, a

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Speaker 1: d transitioner. Chloe, you were invited to attend the State

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Speaker 1: of the Union speech. How did that happen?

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Speaker 18: So?

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Speaker 16: I have been working with Representative Bob Onder of Missouri

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Speaker 16: on the Chloe Cole apt to protect all American children

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Speaker 16: from transgender harm as well as give them legal recourse

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Speaker 16: after the facts once they were adults and they have

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Speaker 16: realized how much harm this has done to them. And

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Speaker 16: he actually was the one who invited me to be there,

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Speaker 16: and it was an incredible blessing to be there for

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Speaker 16: it's It was a wonderful experience to be there a person,

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Speaker 16: to see all these wonderful people there and to watch

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Speaker 16: Donald Trump as he, I think very strategically pulled off

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Speaker 16: his speech in such a way. He invited so many

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Speaker 16: people who have been harmed by Democrat policies or have

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Speaker 16: fought for our country, these incredible heroes and these survivors

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Speaker 16: of these issues that are happening in our country right now.

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Speaker 16: And the Democrats really show their colors on all these

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Speaker 16: different issues, including when he invited a de transitioned young

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Speaker 16: woman by the name of Sage who had been trafficked

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Speaker 16: and taken away from her parents across state lines for

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Speaker 16: the sole fact that they refused to call her by

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Speaker 16: a boy's name. They refuse to stand up for that

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Speaker 16: girl who was hurt.

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Speaker 1: Callly, we just have two minutes left. If people want

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Speaker 1: to contact you, if people want to get involved in

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Speaker 1: your activism, how do they do it?

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Speaker 18: So?

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Speaker 15: I am active on social media.

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Speaker 16: I'm primarily on x as well as Instagram, and I'm

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Speaker 16: running a YouTube channel as well, where I'm working on

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Speaker 16: both short form and long form content, including video essays

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Speaker 16: and interviews.

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Speaker 15: But you can find all my socials on my website.

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Speaker 15: Chewcol dot com. H Ooo, c l E dot com.

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Speaker 1: Have you written a book?

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Speaker 16: I am in the middle of writing one, actually in

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Speaker 16: trying to find a publisher, so stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Okay, your quality of life now? Are you happy?

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Speaker 16: I am much happier than I ever was when I

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Speaker 16: was living a lie and when I was being subjected

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Speaker 16: to what really amounted to medical experimentation. It's only through

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Speaker 16: accepting the things that I couldn't change and also using

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Speaker 16: the experiences that's what's hard me to help others. That

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Speaker 16: has given me incredible healing after the facts, and I

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Speaker 16: could not be more grateful for the grace that God

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Speaker 16: has put in my life and for everything that He

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Speaker 16: has done for me. And even though I still suffer

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Speaker 16: from the consequences, I have gone through healing that I

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Speaker 16: never thought it was possible, and that is something that

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Speaker 16: I want to extend to everybody. I want to show everybody,

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Speaker 16: no matter what they have been through, whether it's related

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Speaker 16: to transition or not, that even if they've lost incredible

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Speaker 16: parts of their life, they are not broken and there

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Speaker 16: is still so much more to life.

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Speaker 1: Chloe Cole, thank you so much for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: I really do appreciate it.

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Speaker 15: God bless thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's been my pleasure. You're delightful.

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Speaker 13: Lidyty Guarante.

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Speaker 1: Late nine seven one Sage Triple eight nine seven one

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Speaker 1: seven two four to three. I am Larry Elder. We

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Speaker 1: are Salem News Channel. Tim Walls pull out the race

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Speaker 1: card against whistleblowers. Whoopy Goldberg got called out for not

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Speaker 1: caring about the plight of Iranian women. Taller Rico, the

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Speaker 1: man that won the Texas Democrat Senate primary, says the

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Speaker 1: Bible condones abortion in that By the way, God is

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Speaker 1: non binary. All of this and more. This hour Triple

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Speaker 1: eight ninety seven one sage let's play Harry Inton again,

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Speaker 1: the CNN stat guy, about the support of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: He says, Trump supporters love him more than any supporters

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Speaker 1: of any president at this time in their term.

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Speaker 6: Number fifty three Republicans love Donald Trump more than any

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Speaker 6: president's own party supporters loved them at this particular point.

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Speaker 6: Just take a look here, okay, own party supporters twenty

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Speaker 6: first century president's own party approval about at this point

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Speaker 6: the second term, Bush was at seventy seven percent, Obama

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Speaker 6: was at seventy seven percent.

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Speaker 4: Look at this. Eighty six percent.

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Speaker 6: Of Republicans approve of the job that Donald Trump is

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Speaker 6: doing at this point. That is higher than either Obama

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Speaker 6: or Bush had within their own party at this point.

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Speaker 6: Trump's magic touch has not seen the war off yet

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Speaker 6: when it comes to the Republican base and.

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Speaker 10: What kind of approval are we talking about here?

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Speaker 6: Okay, so we're talking about overall approval here, how about

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Speaker 6: the strongly approved, the strongly approved.

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Speaker 10: Not just like but love love.

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Speaker 6: Okay, We're gonna look at these same presidents again, strong

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Speaker 6: approval among your own parties base, which is here's Trump

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Speaker 6: is the only one who gets the majority at this

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Speaker 6: point in their presidency. Obama was at forty eight percent.

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Speaker 6: Bush was at forty seven percent. You see here, Trump

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Speaker 6: at fifty three percent, not as high as overall approval rating,

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Speaker 6: but still getting a majority of the Republican base, at

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Speaker 6: least in the average of polls to say that they

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Speaker 6: still really, really really like him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but but but there are cracks in the mega base.

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Speaker 10: The war in Iran.

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Speaker 1: He promised, no new wars, no forever wars.

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Speaker 10: It's cracked it in.

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Speaker 1: And I told you before this. Polls show that Trump's

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Speaker 1: approval rating was about the same as it was at

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Speaker 1: this juncture in the second term of George W. Bush

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Speaker 1: and this juncture the second term of Barack Obama. Now

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Speaker 1: that probably has changed pretty significantly. Now we mentioned that

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Speaker 1: Christine Olaman has been fired from her job as DHS secretary.

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Speaker 1: She now has a new position called Special Envoy for

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Speaker 1: the Shield of the Americas. Whatever that is, Chuck Schumer says,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're still going to keep the government shut down.

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Speaker 1: Number fifty four.

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Speaker 19: The president there has fired Christinoam's good riddance. But the

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Speaker 19: problems at this agency ICE transcend any for any one person.

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Speaker 19: The rot is deep. They the president has to end

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Speaker 19: the violence and rain in Ice.

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Speaker 20: Would you what would you need to confirm Secretary of

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Speaker 20: Senator Mullen to this position?

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Speaker 3: Do you need assurance?

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Speaker 19: This is This is a problem of policy, not personnel.

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Speaker 19: The rot is deep. No one person can straighten us

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Speaker 19: up until the President changes the whole agency, stops the

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Speaker 19: violence and reigns in ice.

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Speaker 7: Democratic, what do you think about a selection to leave this?

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Speaker 19: I told you this is not an issue of personnel.

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Speaker 19: It's an issue of policy. The rod is way deep

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Speaker 19: down and transcends anyone into individual.

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Speaker 21: Democrats are saying that they think this might make it easier.

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Speaker 4: To have your negotiations on that's up to them. They've

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Speaker 4: been they've been.

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Speaker 19: They've been stonewalling us. They've been stonewalling us on the

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Speaker 19: most important issues, and those have to change, and they

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Speaker 19: have to change them.

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Speaker 18: They have.

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Speaker 19: We have to change them by legislation because any one person.

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Speaker 19: I don't trust any one person being in charge of

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Speaker 19: this agency as long as Trump is president, given the

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Speaker 19: policies he's espoused, given how ICE has been structured, the

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Speaker 19: rot is deep.

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Speaker 20: Does that mean the Democrats are gonna block any nominee

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Speaker 20: from getting through?

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Speaker 19: As I said, he's got to change the whole policies

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Speaker 19: in Ice. It transcends. It's not a personnel issue. So

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Speaker 19: I wouldn't focus on that.

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Speaker 13: Color for you.

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Speaker 3: Before they.

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Speaker 1: Stop the violence, Stop the violence. Two people were killed

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Speaker 1: who interfered with what Ice and the Border Patrol was doing.

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Speaker 1: Stop the violence rain in Ice? What do you what

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Speaker 1: do you mean? It doesn't matter. Christian Noman's gone, got

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Speaker 1: hammered at the hearing, got hammered over the contract that

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Speaker 1: she gave, got hammered over referring to the two people

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Speaker 1: were killed and domestic terrorists, hammered over not prioritizing violent

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Speaker 1: criminal illegal aliens. She's now gone, doesn't do it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter now. Caroline Levitt accused CNN of being

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Speaker 1: anti Trump. She has understated it Number thirty.

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Speaker 22: Eight that is going to attend the dignified transfer for

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Speaker 22: these families, given what Secretary Hegsad said this morning, Is

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Speaker 22: it the position of this administration that the press should

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Speaker 22: not prominently cover the deaths of US service members.

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Speaker 20: No, it's the position of this administration that the press

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Speaker 20: in this room and the press across the country should

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Speaker 20: accurately report on the success of Operation Epic Fury and

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Speaker 20: the damage it is doing to the rogue Iranian regime

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Speaker 20: that has threatened the lives of every single American in

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Speaker 20: this room. If the Iranian regime had their choice, they

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Speaker 20: would kill every single person in this room. And so

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Speaker 20: we can all be very grateful that we have an

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Speaker 20: administration and that we have men and women in our

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Speaker 20: armed forces who are willing to sacrifice their own lives

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Speaker 20: for the rest of us in this room and for

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Speaker 20: every American across the country, and for every troop that

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Speaker 20: is based in the Middle East.

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Speaker 22: That's what these was complaining that it was front page

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Speaker 22: news about these six service members who were killed.

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Speaker 20: And that's not what the secretary said, Caitlin, And that's

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Speaker 20: not what the Secretary meant.

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Speaker 13: And you know it, You know you are being disingenuous.

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Speaker 20: There is not We've never had a Secretary of Defense,

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Speaker 20: who cares.

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Speaker 13: To get through tragic things happen. It's front page news.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 22: The press only wants to make the president look bad,

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Speaker 22: because you know the president of service members.

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Speaker 20: Under every president, the press does only want to make

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Speaker 20: the president look bad.

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Speaker 13: That's a that's a fact.

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Speaker 20: Especially you listen to me, especially you, and especially CNN,

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Speaker 20: and the Secretary of Defense cares deeply about our war

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01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 20: fighters and our men and women in uniform. He travels

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Speaker 20: all across this country to meet with them, to connect

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Speaker 20: with them, and your network.

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Speaker 13: Has hardly ever probably reported on that.

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Speaker 20: You also had the chairman of the Joint Peace Chiefs,

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Speaker 20: Chairman Kane, who's a brave patriot, standing alongside this secretary

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Speaker 20: at the Pentagon this morning, again expressing his condolences to

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Speaker 20: these families. And I just told you that the President

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Speaker 20: of the United States will be attending their dignified transfer.

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Speaker 22: So please, so please making the president look good, so

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Speaker 22: showcasing that.

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Speaker 13: We expect you to cover that as you should.

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Speaker 20: We expect you to cover that as you should, Caitlin,

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Speaker 20: But you and your network know that you take every

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Speaker 20: single thing this administration says and tries to use it

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Speaker 20: to make the president look bad.

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Speaker 13: That is an objectable fact.

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Speaker 20: If you're trying to if you're trying to argue right

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Speaker 20: now that CNN's overwhelming coverage is not negative of President

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Speaker 20: Donald Trump. I think the American people would tend to agree,

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Speaker 20: and your ratings would tend to disagree with that as well.

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Speaker 1: Tell you who else agrees with that. Harvard, they looked

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Speaker 1: at the one hundred first hundred days of trump one

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Speaker 1: point zero coverage by CNN. Get this, negative stories outpaced

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Speaker 1: positive ones thirteen to one. I repeat CNN's coverage of

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Speaker 1: Trump's first one hundred days, Trump one point zero, and

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Speaker 1: it hasn't gotten any better. Negative stories outpaced positive ones

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Speaker 1: thirteen to one. Now this is interesting. Whoopi Goldbird visibly

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Speaker 1: seemed to cringe when informed about the oppression of Iranian women,

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Speaker 1: something that she didn't much care about. Number forty eight.

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Speaker 21: Secretary of War Pete hug Sathas said that this is

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Speaker 21: now the time for the Iranian people to stand and

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Speaker 21: do what they need to do. And what do we

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Speaker 21: have us when you look at what women looked like

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Speaker 21: and we're treated like we have a before and after

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Speaker 21: before this regime and after this is before and here

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Speaker 21: is after and right now, these women have hope. Forty

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Speaker 21: seven million women have hope. People who are gay are

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Speaker 21: not being thrown off buildings, women will not be mutilated

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Speaker 21: and murdered. I think there's such hope, and it takes

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Speaker 21: strength to find peace, and America should be first at that.

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Speaker 10: Always.

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Speaker 23: Well, you know, here's the thing, though, I remember, and

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Speaker 23: I hope you're right. I hope for the sake of

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Speaker 23: the Iranian people and for the sake of the world,

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01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 23: for America's sake, I hope you're right.

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Speaker 1: Notice how the tone changed. Iranian women are oppressed. One

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01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 1: got thrown in jail. Later on died in prison because

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Speaker 1: she wouldn't wear her hajib. I thought you guys cared

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Speaker 1: about women, thought you cared about women's rights. I thought

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01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 1: you were feminists. Here you have a country that is

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01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: oppressing women. They can't work, can't go to school, and

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01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: this man has now liberated them. Donald Trump, Well, okay,

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01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I hope it works out a

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01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: whole different attitude we come back. There are roughly thirty

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Speaker 1: five thousand Americans in the Middle East, half of whom

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Speaker 1: have been safely trained I supported back. Half still need

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01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: to be. We'll talk about that when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s eight GE and the

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Speaker 1: man who won the Democratic primary for Senate in Texas

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Speaker 1: says that God is non binary and the Bible supports abortion.

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01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: Really Triple eight ninety seven one s eight GE, do

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Speaker 1: not leave town.

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 5: Larry will be right back to stay.

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01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 10: Tune is both masculine and feminine and everything in between.

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Speaker 2: God is non binary.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s A G E. Triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four to three. I

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Speaker 1: am Larry Elder, Salem News Channel. I don't know what

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01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: to say, so God's preferred pronouns are they? That was James,

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01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: That was Tall Rico, the man who won the Texas

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Speaker 1: primary for the Democrat side. He will succeed John Cornyan

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01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 1: if Cornyn does not win the nomination and if his

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Speaker 1: opponent wins the election. Triple eight nine seventy one s

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Speaker 1: A G E. Triple A seven one seven two four three.

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Speaker 1: I am Larry Older. We are a Salem News Channel.

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01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: Jen is in San Diego, Jin You're on the Larry

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Speaker 1: Olda show. Thank you for calling.

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Speaker 24: Hi, Larry. I just wanted to comment about sender Dystaria.

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Speaker 25: I grew up.

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Speaker 24: I was born in Stec three, and I grew up

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Speaker 24: in the streets of Philadelphia. I played football in the

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Speaker 24: streets with the boys, my best friend twin girls. They

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01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 24: asked me to get on the basketball team. I made center.

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01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 24: I was always just cast girl in the class. I

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Speaker 24: ain't playing with the boy. I thank god that I

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Speaker 24: was back born back then, because that I wouldn't have

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Speaker 24: my five grandchildren. I wouldn't have my breast. And I'm

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Speaker 24: just thankful that I wasn't born.

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Speaker 2: In this time.

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Speaker 24: I listen this time, just growing up in this time.

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Speaker 24: That's all I wanted to say.

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Speaker 1: What thank you very much for coming on. I appreciate it.

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01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: My goodness. Antoinette is in Sunset Beach, California, and Foinette

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Speaker 1: always nice to hear from you.

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Speaker 26: Oh my love, how's been going.

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01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: It's going great.

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Speaker 26: In California. Isn't that We're so lucky compared to the

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Speaker 26: back of East.

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Speaker 1: We have we have great weather. We have we have

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01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: bad politicians. We have great weather in massachuse So.

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Speaker 26: That guy in Texas as well as Rupy Goldberg. What

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01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 26: is it with these Democrats? Look at Goldberg. She don't

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01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 26: ever give.

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Speaker 24: Credit to our president.

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Speaker 26: And three women. Where are all these liberal damn women

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01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:44,480
Speaker 26: that will not recognize the Iranian women especially They were doctors,

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01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 26: they were lawyers, they were three and they have been

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Speaker 26: in prison.

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Speaker 24: And oh MG, and.

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Speaker 26: Now this uh col Rico guy in Texas. What the

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Speaker 26: hell is that brinary.

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Speaker 1: And the Bible would approve abortion. Listen to a Republican

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Speaker 1: Texas State Senator who work with tall Rico for some time,

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Speaker 1: Number thirty two.

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Speaker 27: I put fourth legislation to secure our elections. It gets

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Speaker 27: killed by the Democrats. When I put fourth legislation and

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Speaker 27: the social transition of children, it gets killed by the Democrats.

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Speaker 28: It is its evil.

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Speaker 27: Tell Rico's part of that group. I served with James

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01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 27: tell Rico from twenty nineteen through to today. This guy's

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Speaker 27: as evil as they come. There is a darkness to

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01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 27: this man's life that if you doubt, if you doubt

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01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 27: that there's a wickedness and an evil and a demonic

1619
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 27: presence in the world, you'll have to look at James

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Speaker 27: tel Rico is an awful, awful person.

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Speaker 1: Awful person and about the Bible supporting abortion. Listen to

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Speaker 1: the great Dennis Prager. Number fifty one.

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Speaker 29: Let's talk about one of the most emotionally charged subjects,

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01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 29: there is abortion, but in an unemotional way. Also, let's

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Speaker 29: not touch on the question that most preoccupies discussion of

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Speaker 29: the subject, whether abortion should be legal or illegal. The

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Speaker 29: only question here is the moral one is ending the

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Speaker 29: life of a human fetus moral. Let's begin with this question.

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Speaker 29: Does the human fetus have any value and any rights? Now,

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Speaker 29: it's a scientific fact that a human fetus is human life.

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Speaker 29: Those who argue that the human fetus has no rights

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01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 29: say that a fetus is not a person. But even

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Speaker 29: if you believe that, it doesn't mean the fetus has

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Speaker 29: no intrinsic value or no rights. There are many living

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Speaker 29: beings that are not persons that have both value and rights,

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Speaker 29: dogs and other animals, for example. And that's moral argument

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Speaker 29: number one. A living being doesn't have to be a

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Speaker 29: person in order to have intrinsic moral value and rights.

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Speaker 29: When challenged with this argument, people usually change the subject

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Speaker 29: to the rights of the mother, meaning the right of

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Speaker 29: a mother to end her fetus's life under any circumstance,

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Speaker 29: for any reason and at any time in her pregnancy.

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Speaker 4: Is that moral?

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Speaker 29: It is only if we believe that the human fetus

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Speaker 29: has no intrinsic worth. But in most cases, nearly everyone

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Speaker 29: believes that the human fetus has essentially infinite worth and

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Speaker 29: an almost absolute right to live.

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Speaker 5: When when a pregnant woman wants to.

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Speaker 29: Give birth, then society and its laws regard the fetus

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Speaker 29: as so valuable that if someone where to kill that fetus,

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01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 29: that person could be prosecuted for homicide. Only if a

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01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 29: pregnant woman doesn't want to give birth, do many people

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Speaker 29: regard the fetus as worthless? Now does that make sense?

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Speaker 29: It doesn't seem to. Either a human fetus has worth

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Speaker 29: or it doesn't. And this is moral argument number two.

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Speaker 29: On what moral grounds does the mother alone decide a

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Speaker 29: fetus is worth We certainly don't do that with regard

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Speaker 29: to a newborn child. It is society, not the mother

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Speaker 29: or the father, that determines whether a newborn child has

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Speaker 29: worth and a right to live. So the question is

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Speaker 29: why should that be different Before the human being is born,

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Speaker 29: Why does one person, a mother, get to determine whether

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Speaker 29: that being has any right to live? People respond by

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01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 29: saying that a woman has the right to control her Now,

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Speaker 29: that is entirely correct. The problem here, however, is that

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Speaker 29: the fetus is not her body. It is in her body,

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Speaker 29: it is a separate body, and that's moral argument number three.

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Speaker 29: No one ever asks a pregnant woman, how's your body?

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Speaker 29: When asking about the fetus, people ask how's the baby?

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Speaker 29: Moral argument number four. Virtually everyone agrees that the moment

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Speaker 29: the baby comes out of the womb, killing the baby

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Speaker 29: is murder, but deliberately killing it a few months before

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Speaker 29: birth is considered no more morally problematic than extracting a tooth.

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Speaker 29: How does that make sense? And finally, moral argument number five,

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Speaker 29: aren't there instances in which just about everyone, even among

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Speaker 29: those who are pro choice, would acknowledge that an abortion

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Speaker 29: might not be moral? For example, would it be moral

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Speaker 29: to abort a female fetus solely because the mother prefers

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Speaker 29: boys to girls, as has happened millions of times in

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Speaker 29: China and elsewhere. And one more example, let's say science

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Speaker 29: develops a method of determining whether a child in the

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Speaker 29: womb is gay or straight. Would it be moral to

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Speaker 29: kill a gay fetus because the mother didn't want.

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Speaker 5: A gay child.

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Speaker 29: People may offer practical reasons not to criminalize all abortions.

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Speaker 29: People may differ about when personhood begins and about the

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Speaker 29: morality of abortion after rape or incest. But with regard

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Speaker 29: to the vast majority of abortions those of healthy women

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Speaker 29: aborting a healthy fetus, Let's be clear, most of these

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01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 29: abortions just aren't moral. Good societies can survive people doing

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01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 29: immoral things, but a good society cannot survive if it

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Speaker 29: calls immoral things.

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Speaker 1: Triple Late Night seven one Sage Triple eight Nights seven

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Speaker 1: one seven two four to three. I Am Larry Elder,

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Speaker 1: Salem News Channel. Coming to you from the Belief Factors Studio.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget your Relief Factor eight hundred four Relief eight

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Speaker 1: When the war against Iran started, there were roughly thirty

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Speaker 1: five thousand Americans in the Middle East. Half of them

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01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 1: have apparently been flown safely back here as the President,

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01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: Press Secretary Caroline Levett number forty one.

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Speaker 20: Illustration is also doing everything within our power to protect

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01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 20: Americans in harm's way. Since the launch of Operation Epic Fury,

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01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 20: more than seventeen thousand, five hundred Americans have safely returned

1705
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 20: home from the Middle East, with over eighty five hundred

1706
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 20: American citizens returning home to the United States just yesterday alone.

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Speaker 20: If you are a US citizen in the Middle East

1708
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 20: looking to return to the United States, the Secretary of

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01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 20: State asked that you please register with the State Department

1710
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 20: at step dot State dot gov. The State Department will

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01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 20: identify where you are and provide travel options directly to you.

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01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 20: The Administration is already rapidly chartering flights free of charge

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01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,480
Speaker 20: in booking commercial options, which we expect to become increasingly

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01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 20: available as time goes on and the success of this

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Speaker 20: mission further comes to fruition. I know the President and

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Speaker 20: Secretary of State Rubio have been in touch as well

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01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 20: with our allies in the region directly about this problem,

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01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 20: making it clear that it is a priority of the

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Speaker 20: United States of America to bring every American home. The

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Speaker 20: Trump administration will not rest until every American is home

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Speaker 20: safely and until the terrorist threat from Iran has been

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Speaker 20: completely destroyed.

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Speaker 1: Russell, is it Redondo Beach, California, Russell, you and the

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Speaker 1: Lario to show thank you for calling.

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Speaker 18: Hello.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 17: So.

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Speaker 30: My daughter was on a trip with her class to

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Speaker 30: Israel and she after the perm holiday, they got on

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Speaker 30: a bus chartered.

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Speaker 31: To Jordan and then to get a flight from Jordan

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Speaker 31: to Athens was the goal. That was supposed to be

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Speaker 31: eleven o'clock Thursday time over there. And then I'm seeing

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01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 31: in the WhatsApp delayed delay one am three point fifteen

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01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 31: and then now there's no flight, So I know that's

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Speaker 31: what I know. My daughter's now going through with her class.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, Russell, Are you in touch with her? Is

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Speaker 1: she able to communicate with you?

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Speaker 26: Yes?

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01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 31: I am in touch with her. I am seeing I

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01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 31: am seeing constant texts from the group leaders, and I

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01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 31: know I'm not very worried. They're all in good hands there.

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Speaker 31: And I know there's another organization, Grayble providing security.

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Speaker 30: Which is.

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Speaker 31: Which is mostly all US former Armed Force members that

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01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 31: are all a part of it, that are doing all

1747
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 31: the volunteer work and very and as an organization, and

1748
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 31: they're the ones taking care of the bus rides, the

1749
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 31: chartered flights, et cetera. And so when anything's gonna happen,

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01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 31: it will happen for them.

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Speaker 1: How does she feel? How does she feel? Is she

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01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 1: hearing anything? I know that they they meaning Iran. They've

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01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 1: launched drones and missiles everywhere, including Jordan.

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Speaker 31: So while she was in Israel. She did go to

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01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 31: shelter a few times. The group felt very safe going

1756
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 31: into the shelter and that was just normal. And she

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01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,759
Speaker 31: she has felt safe the whole time she's been in Jordan.

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01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 31: She was very happy when she was shown me how

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01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 31: fancy the hotel was when she was in Jordan. It's

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01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 31: the same one all the ambassador the ambassadors go to,

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01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,560
Speaker 31: so I know, in terms of accommodation wise, I know

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01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 31: there's not much for her to worry about. Well, Russell,

1763
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 31: just when will she be where she was supposed to

1764
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 31: get leave last Sunday? And then of course everything closed down.

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Speaker 1: All right, Russell, you're on your honor. Please call us

1766
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 1: when she's home safely.

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Speaker 31: Well do and thank you. Oh and and just to

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01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 31: let you know I did work at.

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Speaker 1: Your old alma mater at Crenshaw for some time.

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01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 31: Yes, I taught there for about ten years.

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Speaker 1: Wow, what did you do there? I have to have

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01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: another chat another time about love too. Love to Russell.

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01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: You know we were the second graduating class from Crenshaw

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01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: High School. Crenshaw opened up in nineteen sixty eight, I

1777
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 1: think it was, And I transferred from Washington High where

1778
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: I was for one semester, to Crenshaw and that's the

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01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 1: high school I graduated from. Although I attended two other

1780
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Speaker 1: high schools. I attended Dorsey and I intended Fairfax. I

1781
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 1: looked and went to four high schools, but I graduated

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Speaker 1: from Crenshall High School in January of nineteen nineteen seventy.

1783
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Speaker 1: And we walked into the building. We were the first

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Speaker 1: group to walk into this brand new school. It's really

1785
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 1: kind of out of body to walk into a brand

1786
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:44,759
Speaker 1: new high school. And we even voted on the school nickname.

1787
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 1: I voted Cavalier. I got out voted, so most students

1788
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: voted Cougars. That's what it's called. I'm going to chair

1789
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Speaker 1: it with you. Brian Stora from Alabama. He tells us,

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01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 1: after taking relief Factor for just three weeks, at least

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Speaker 1: started to limit me at work and at home, and

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Speaker 1: now I'm amazed at the relief I've gotten. End of quote.

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Speaker 1: So these are Brian's own words, and they speak volumes

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1797
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to swing freely because of shoulder

1799
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1809
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Speaker 1: two four to three, Larry Older Sail and Loose Channel.

1810
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: It's wild to hear people say that the only reason

1811
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 1: that we attacked Iran is because we were supporting Israel

1812
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 1: Is if we had no nationalcurity reason independent of Israel

1813
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: to do what we did. Here's Marco Rubio in the

1814
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 1: same question number twenty one. Please, guys, I can't hear

1815
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: them allst yes.

1816
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 20: Yesterday you told us that Israel was going to strike Iran,

1817
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 20: and that's why we needed to get involved.

1818
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 3: Today the President said that.

1819
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 32: Iran was going a good Yeah, your statement is false.

1820
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 32: So that's not what I was asked, very specifical. Were

1821
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 32: you there yesterday?

1822
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 10: Yes?

1823
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, No?

1824
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 32: Were you the one that because somebody asked me a

1825
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 32: question said did we go in because of Israel? And

1826
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 32: I said you were asked me? Are you from that

1827
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 32: follow up? And I said no, I told you this

1828
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 32: had to happen anyway. The President made a decision, and

1829
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:46,680
Speaker 32: the decision he made was that Iran was not going

1830
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 32: to be allowed to hide behind its ballistic missile program,

1831
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 32: that Iran was not going to be allowed to hide

1832
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 32: behind its ability to conduct these attacks.

1833
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 10: That decision had been made.

1834
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 32: The President systematically made a decision to systematically destroy this

1835
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 32: terroristic capability that they had, and we carried that out.

1836
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 4: I was very clear on that answer.

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Speaker 32: This is a question of timing of why this had

1838
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 32: to happen as a joint operation, not the question of

1839
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 32: the intent. Once the President made a decision that negotiations

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01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 32: were not going to work, that they were playing us

1841
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 32: on the negotiations, and that this was a threat that

1842
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 32: was untenable. The decision was made to strike them. That's

1843
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 32: what I said yesterday. And you guys need to play

1844
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 32: it him. You're going to play these statements. You need

1845
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 32: to play the whole statement, not slipping it to reach.

1846
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 1: The narrative that you want to do.

1847
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, what do you make up the

1848
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 4: war powers resolution?

1849
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 1: That team consider it.

1850
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 7: Here in party?

1851
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,719
Speaker 1: I mean, and Megan Kelly said the same thing, number

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01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: thirty nine.

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01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 28: And this feels very much to me like it is

1854
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 28: clearly Israel's war. Mark Levin wanted it. It's his war,

1855
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 28: Ben Shapiro, Lindsey Graham, Maria Maddilson.

1856
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 10: That's obvious.

1857
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 28: They're the ones who've been pushing us in Wow.

1858
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 1: So death to America towards acquiring a nuclear weapon, decades

1859
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: long of slaughtering Americans, manufacturing engineering, coaching on the IEDs.

1860
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,759
Speaker 1: It killed hundreds of American soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq.

1861
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: It's all because of Mark Levin. It's all because of Israel.

1862
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: You've got Gavin Newsom referring to Israel as an apartheid state.

1863
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 1: Thomas Soul explained why so many people hate Jews and

1864
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: how Jews could stop the hatred.

1865
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 33: Number three, the Middleman minorities, of which the Jews are

1866
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 33: the most prominent. The hostility of these people in countries

1867
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 33: around the world is out of all proportion of.

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01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 5: That to any other kind of group I can think of.

1869
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:46,799
Speaker 5: In terms of the violence.

1870
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 33: The number of Chinese killed, let's say, in one year

1871
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 33: and by mob actually sees all the blocks lynched in

1872
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 33: the entire history of the United States.

1873
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,640
Speaker 5: And the number of Armenians killed in Turkey during the

1874
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 5: First World War is greater than that.

1875
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 33: Of course, the number of Jews slaughtered on a number

1876
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 33: of occasions in history, even before the Holocaust, is greater

1877
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 33: than that. So that the question is why this particular

1878
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 33: kind of people are the talkings of so much us

1879
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:13,759
Speaker 33: venomous hatred.

1880
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 5: And I think the answer is that they not only succeed,

1881
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 5: they succeed in a.

1882
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 33: Way which is the threat to the egos of other people.

1883
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 33: But the guy who comes here, let's say, from Vietnam

1884
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 33: or Korea, and arrives here with a little more than

1885
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 33: the clothes in his back and a few broken words

1886
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 33: are broken English, and a decade later he has his

1887
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 33: own little business.

1888
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 5: And you see his son a few years after that

1889
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 5: getting ready to go off to harbor or mit. You've

1890
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 5: got to ask yourself.

1891
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 33: You've either got to you know, you've got to hate

1892
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 33: yourself as saying, my god, I've been stagnating. This guy

1893
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 33: was nothing and now here's an out, or you're gonna

1894
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 33: have to hate him. Years ago, one official of one

1895
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 33: of the Jewish organizations in New York asked me, well,

1896
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 33: what can Jews themselves do in order to minimize the

1897
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 33: hostility they face?

1898
01:47:57,800 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 5: I gave him a one word answer.

1899
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 33: Failed, because as long as you succeed, you're gonna be hated.

1900
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: Now let's switch quickly to Epstein, will be Goldberg defended

1901
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and his relationship with Epstein. Why number twenty eight?

1902
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 2: Say what you want about the Clintons.

1903
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 25: Have any of the women or has anything in those

1904
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 25: emails pointed to them as being guilty or having anything

1905
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 25: to do other than well, he's in the bathtub.

1906
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,639
Speaker 2: He's in the bathtub. Is different?

1907
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 32: Yeah, and he took fights on Epstein's Yes, But my question,

1908
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 32: my question is.

1909
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 25: Has he been accused by any of the accusers?

1910
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't know no, Nor has Donald Trump been accused

1911
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: by any of the accusers spoken publicly, There was an

1912
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 1: allegation by a thirteen year old in the files, thirteen

1913
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: year old sued and then with drop dropped the lawsuit. Suit,

1914
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 1: again dropped the lawsuit, and then in the files files

1915
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 1: say that the FBI could no longer even contact her.

1916
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton testified under oath. Here's what he said about

1917
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: Trump number fifteen.

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01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 11: I hate this, but because I don't believe I should

1919
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 11: exact anything, but I do not want to leave the impressions.

1920
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 17: Since there was no follow up question. He never the

1921
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 17: president never, this is twenty something years ago. Never said

1922
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 17: anything to me to make me think he was involving

1923
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 17: anything in profit with regard to.

1924
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 1: Have seen either.

1925
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:44,679
Speaker 10: He just didn't.

1926
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: That's the truth.

1927
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 10: You know. As I said earlier, the only conversation I have.

1928
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 17: With President Trump about this was in the early two thousands,

1929
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 17: and I have no information.

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01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: That he did anything wrong. I just want it all

1931
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: out there.

1932
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 17: I want everybody to get it all out there and

1933
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 17: mother everybody see where.

1934
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 1: We are no information that did anything wrong. Now, if

1935
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: you think Jasmine Crockett is bad, this man is her

1936
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: potential replacement. He won the Democratic primary to succeed Jasmine Crockett,

1937
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: who has lost her job because she ran unsuccessfully for

1938
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 1: the Senate in Texas, number forty six.

1939
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 10: In Utah. It's more of us in church than in Utah.

1940
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 10: We ain't got nothing to do but what they just did.

1941
01:50:54,240 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 18: A white Christian gets killed, murder, not a sad We're

1942
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:08,560
Speaker 18: gonna tell the whole truth today. Martin King got assassinated,

1943
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:13,520
Speaker 18: Malcolm X got assassinated, met Direct got assassinated.

1944
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 10: Don't compare Kirk the King. Ain't no such comparison.

1945
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 4: Now, let me hasten to say, let.

1946
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 18: Me hasten to say, I'm anti political violence. Kerk should

1947
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 18: steal the alive. I don't agree with the time with

1948
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:32,679
Speaker 18: with anything.

1949
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 1: Wait until you hear what he called Charlie Kirk Triple

1950
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 1: eight nine seventy one s ag do not leave town.

1951
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 10: Should steal the alive.

1952
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 18: I don't agree with the time, with with anything Kirk said.

1953
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 18: What Kirk said was dangerous.

1954
01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 10: What Kirk said was.

1955
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 18: Rapist, rubed and white supremacy, nasty hate.

1956
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: Feel Triple eight nine seven one s eight ge triple

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01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four to three. Larry

1958
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 1: Elders Salem News Channel with rooted and white supremacy and hatred. Now,

1959
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: poor Tim Walls, he had a rough rough Day trying

1960
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 1: to explain how he knew nothing about the fraud in

1961
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 1: his state. Number forty seven.

1962
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 34: Do you know who Victoria Eileen Harwell is?

1963
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 5: I do not believe I do.

1964
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 34: What about American Mafalda Tire, I don't believe I do.

1965
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 34: There these are Minnesota women who were brutally killed by

1966
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 34: illegal aliens in your state. You don't know who they are,

1967
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,799
Speaker 34: so I would also assume that you did not attend

1968
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 34: their visuals or speak out to their families when they

1969
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,839
Speaker 34: were brutally killed by illegal aliens.

1970
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 5: I'm not familiar with both of these. No congress women.

1971
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 34: No, just just the hard hitting CNN one and.

1972
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 1: Calling whistleblower is racist or islamophobic. Number thirty five.

1973
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:13,640
Speaker 4: Are you familiar with Fay Bernstein? I?

1974
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 5: I yes, I'm familiar with the name.

1975
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 4: She's a Democrat, isn't she.

1976
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't know that.

1977
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 14: She stated publicly that she's a Democrat. She's only voted

1978
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 14: Democrat in her life. She's also stated publicly that she

1979
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 14: was retaliated against and called racist, and that her work

1980
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 14: responsibilities were diminished whenever she was highlighting fraud within your administration.

1981
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 14: Are you familiar with that? I couldn't speak to Why

1982
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 14: do you think why do you think she would say that?

1983
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 14: I can't speak for you, has no idea, I do not.

1984
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 14: Would you would agree that the tone in your administration

1985
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 14: comes from from you ultimately?

1986
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 5: Right?

1987
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 4: The tone is that, the tone of how you might

1988
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 4: deal with whistleblowers.

1989
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 5: Right, and we protect them.

1990
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 14: It doesn't sound like you're protecting them. We heard from

1991
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 14: Representative Kristin Robbins what we have dozens of do a

1992
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 14: whistleblower report saying the exact same thing, that people were

1993
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 14: told not to say anything because they'd be called racist

1994
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 14: or islamophobic or it would hurt the state. You think

1995
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:13,719
Speaker 14: it's racist or islamophobic to highlight and try to stop fraud.

1996
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 14: It is not, And I certainly it's not that that

1997
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 14: was the message your administration was sending to multiple whistleblowers.

1998
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 2: I can't speak to that.

1999
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 4: You can't speak to that. No, you don't want to

2000
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 4: speak to that.

2001
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: I think rough day number forty three, what.

2002
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 4: Is a woman? Have you learned that?

2003
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 13: Lesson?

2004
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 15: Do you know what a woman is?

2005
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 5: I'm the governor of Minnesota.

2006
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 10: Congress, you know what.

2007
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 5: I'm not here to be your proper your obsession.

2008
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 31: If you what a woman is.

2009
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 35: You certainly can't define what fraud is. If you can't

2010
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 35: even define when a woman is, you can't define fraud.

2011
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 35: How much money was spent on autism in Minnesota in

2012
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 35: twenty seventeen, Governor, I.

2013
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: Don't have those numbers in front of the Congress rough day.

2014
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: Let's do this again tomorrow.

2015
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 36: God bless, what can I say, Mike, that's been dropped

2016
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:11,879
Speaker 36: all across America.

2017
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 5: That's enough.

2018
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 1: Put down the micro.

2019
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:15,080
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