WEBVTT - What's Next with Iran?

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<v Speaker 1>People are saying this. Past Olympics has been one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more politically significant since the nineteen thirty six per

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn Games, when Hitler and the Nazis ruled Germany. It

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<v Speaker 1>does feel a lot more political than past Olympics, with

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<v Speaker 1>some athletes even going on record saying they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>people to get the wrong idea because they are representing

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<v Speaker 1>the United States as an Olympic athlete, speedskater Hunter Hess,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, explained, I just kind of want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for my friends and my family and the people

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<v Speaker 1>that supported me getting here. He later clarified, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing the flag, it doesn't mean I represent everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on in the US. Using the very freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of speech guaranteed by a nation to refuse to praise

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<v Speaker 1>that nation while representing them is perhaps the ultimate display

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<v Speaker 1>of ingratitude. Two of the more compelling tales of this

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<v Speaker 1>are the stories of Eileen Gou and Alyssa Lu On paper,

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<v Speaker 1>the two are very similar, both are Californians of Chinese descent,

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<v Speaker 1>and both are competing at the top levels events in

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<v Speaker 1>the Milano Olympics. Both have left leaning political views, yet

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of gratitude, it couldn't be more dissimilar. That's

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<v Speaker 1>because Gou made the choice to represent not the country

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<v Speaker 1>of her birth, the country where she was raised and trained,

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<v Speaker 1>but the communist dictatorship of China. This is her second Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>representing the red flag on the world stage. Lou, on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, is the child of a man who's

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<v Speaker 1>a refugee from China. He's wanted there for his involvement

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<v Speaker 1>in the Tianaman Square protests. The last time she competed

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<v Speaker 1>in the Beijing Olympics, she needed a security detail to

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<v Speaker 1>protect her from PRC operatives who were targeting her and

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<v Speaker 1>her father. Lou doesn't just represent the US. She's representing

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<v Speaker 1>the US very well. She competed on the ice with

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<v Speaker 1>unfettered joy and pride and brought home the gold draped

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<v Speaker 1>in the American flag. Gou won gold too, only she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't bring it home in the same sense. It's China's

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<v Speaker 1>gold medal, not ours. And that's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>sticking point with Goo's critics because despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she competes for China, she still lives in the country

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<v Speaker 1>where she was raised, and that's the US. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>disturbed much by the fact that she lives in a

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<v Speaker 1>country she doesn't condescend to represent. She turns such criticism

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<v Speaker 1>into an opportunity to brag, saying, if I wasn't doing well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they probably wouldn't care as much, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay for me. People are entitled to their opinions. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true in America at least. It's not just Americans

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<v Speaker 1>who take issue with guz have your cake and eat

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<v Speaker 1>it too attitude. Some of her Chinese critics also expressed

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<v Speaker 1>dissatisfaction with the way she keeps the very country she

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<v Speaker 1>represents on the snow at arms length. Goo's Chinese name

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<v Speaker 1>is gu is Ling, but the story is that mift

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese are calling her gu Ei Chin, which turns her

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<v Speaker 1>name into Goo loves money. So she is getting criticized

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<v Speaker 1>from that ankle. I have to say that I sympathize

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<v Speaker 1>with the average Chinese on this one. Sure, she won

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<v Speaker 1>medals for China, but she won't even want to live here.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't really want to be connected to China, and

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<v Speaker 1>the insult isn't hard to detect. Goo doesn't care about

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<v Speaker 1>her Chinese critics. I don't think, considering she grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, and lives there. In twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>she decided to try to shame them as well by

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<v Speaker 1>taunting quote, in the past five years, I've represented China

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<v Speaker 1>in forty one international competitions and have won thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>medals for China? What have you done for the country?

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<v Speaker 1>So that is horror? Come back to the Chinese people.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we say that's very gu like of her. The

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<v Speaker 1>really odd thing about Gou is that she shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>in the US at all, honestly, unless she is just

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<v Speaker 1>visiting tourist visa. According to Chinese law, she's not a

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<v Speaker 1>native Chinese, but naturalized. And in China, when you become

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<v Speaker 1>a citizen, you're required by law to give up your

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<v Speaker 1>old citizenship. Yet here she is in Stanford, California. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>America recognizes her citizenship because she was born here. So

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<v Speaker 1>even though she's a card carrying Chinese Communist national, she

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<v Speaker 1>is an American because she was born on our soil.

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<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't China enforce their side of the naturalization process

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<v Speaker 1>by forcing gu just to render her US citizenship like

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<v Speaker 1>the law demands money status medals, Or maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>part of some deal when she made her decision to

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<v Speaker 1>represent China that gave her half her genomes but none

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<v Speaker 1>of her freedom or civil rights. Maybe it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>unusual at all. It seems that Gou isn't so much

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<v Speaker 1>the exception as she is the rule. You see. According

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<v Speaker 1>to New York Times bestselling book and Visible Coup by

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Schweizer, China has been looking the other way when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to her American born citizens a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the Chinese Communist Party we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you can bet this isn't your typical bureaucratic misstep. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very much deliberate and part of a larger plot. In

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with Steve Bannon that was quoted by Breitbart,

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<v Speaker 1>Schweitzerer pointed out that for the past thirteen years, roughly

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand Chinese babies have been born in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Back of the envelope math tells us that's easily over

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<v Speaker 1>a million Chinese who also claim US citizenship. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is not normal birth tourism, if that's even normal. These

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<v Speaker 1>are children of party elites and military officers, says Schweitzer.

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<v Speaker 1>After being born, they're wist away back to China, where

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<v Speaker 1>they're raised as Chinese citizens. But thanks to birthright citizenship

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<v Speaker 1>here in the US, they are still Americans when this

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<v Speaker 1>million plus foard of Chinese Americans churn eighteen. They can

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<v Speaker 1>do things like a vote in our elections, they can

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<v Speaker 1>make political donations, they can work for our government, and

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<v Speaker 1>is all perfectly legal. Well, hopefully the Supreme Court will

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at this, because this is a very

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<v Speaker 1>serious national security issue. No other country has immigration policies

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<v Speaker 1>that expose its citizen citizenry to this level of exploitation

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<v Speaker 1>by the Chinese Communist Party. Something tells me that while

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<v Speaker 1>these millions playing remote citizen in China would jump at

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to work in DC, none of them are

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<v Speaker 1>going to do us the favor of representing the US

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<v Speaker 1>in a future Olympic game, for example. That's not the

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<v Speaker 1>only area in which China is making waves these days.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems Beijing is absolutely furious over the results of

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<v Speaker 1>the recent Japanese election that one conservative Takaichi an unprecedented

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<v Speaker 1>conservative majority. Among other items on her parties to do

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<v Speaker 1>list is the eradication of Article nine of the Japanese Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>clearing the way for Japan to build up its military forces.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, in some sense, the changes will be primarily linguistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather than a st army, Japan has a self defense force,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, for all intents and purposes the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>as military. The Japanese Self Defense Force currently ranks in

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten overall among the world's militaries already. So

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<v Speaker 1>is jettison ing Article nine really going to dramatically alter things?

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<v Speaker 1>Leave it to China to find a reason to cut

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<v Speaker 1>a fit over a name change. In an attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>stop Japanese remilitarization, the PRC has announced restrictions to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese entities to ensure that they don't end up as

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<v Speaker 1>components in Japanese military hardware. Japan isn't about to outsource

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<v Speaker 1>its new army of giant fighting robots to Chinese manufacturers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just assuming that Japanese remilitarization will include giant fighting robots.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the twenty first century and it's finally time for that.

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<v Speaker 1>The affected Japanese companies include Sumiitomo, Mitsubishi, Kawasaki, Fujitsu Ihi Corporation,

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<v Speaker 1>and sup So. China is getting a little nervous that

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<v Speaker 1>the Japanese might recall their previous military might. The Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>have been highly critical of the Prime Minister, especially since

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<v Speaker 1>she called for Japan to develop nuclear weapons. A militarized

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<v Speaker 1>in nuclear armed Japan certainly seems like it would add

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<v Speaker 1>a few wrinkles to the Chinese goal of invading the

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful and free nation of Taiwan. It would also make

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<v Speaker 1>it harder to enact a naval blockade of Japan in

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<v Speaker 1>order to cut her off from the rest of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>which is another one of China's long standing strategic goals.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, across the planet, the elements needed to

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<v Speaker 1>realize China's goals have been steadily falling into place. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been in economic support an arms dealer to the Ayatola

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<v Speaker 1>and Iran for years, and they were in the process

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<v Speaker 1>of negotiating with Venezuela as well when our little game

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<v Speaker 1>of cash the Dictator ended up ruining that point. Across

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<v Speaker 1>the globe, from South Korea, Japan, and the Philippines in

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<v Speaker 1>Asia to the South American countries of Ecuador, Peru, Chile,

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<v Speaker 1>and Argentina, China's engaging in exploited illegal fishing practices, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they wanted to make sure that everywhere had a

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<v Speaker 1>reason not to like them. I mean, they certainly are

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<v Speaker 1>eating that much fish. No such gray zone tactics allow

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<v Speaker 1>their vessels to function as a paramilitary force, thereby allowing

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<v Speaker 1>Beijing to exert control just below the threshold of open

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<v Speaker 1>armed conflict. It is a surg meeting in reserve, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will. Just as their ubiquitous fishing fleets may be

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<v Speaker 1>other than they seen, China's population may not be as

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<v Speaker 1>large as reporting. Bushi Yan, a researcher at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Wisconsin, asserts the country doesn't have as many people

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<v Speaker 1>as she claims. Why would a government want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>its country's population size secret? Well, because the size of

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese market is one of its biggest draws. It

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<v Speaker 1>also helps at the local level to fudge those numbers

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get bigger government subsidies. Well, Fushion believes

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<v Speaker 1>that China's population of one point four billion is actually

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<v Speaker 1>about one point three billion. That translates to one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and million fewer Chinese people than reported. Other estimates say

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<v Speaker 1>that China's actual population is less than half of what

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<v Speaker 1>it's reported to be. That may be a stretch, but

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<v Speaker 1>it would explain why there are whole sections of cities

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<v Speaker 1>where the buildings are completely empty. These topics and more

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<v Speaker 1>will make for some very interesting research, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something Peter Schweizer has dived into in his recent book.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been looking into a lot of this and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting to see everything he's uncovered, because it

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<v Speaker 1>just goes to show us that the Chinese Communist Party

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<v Speaker 1>is using America's own laws, America's own rules, in order

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<v Speaker 1>to actually subvert the country. I am delighted to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>our guest today, Larry Taunton. He is an author, columnist,

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<v Speaker 1>and cultural commentator. His work has been cut by the BBC,

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times, and many other places. Larry, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be with you, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>Great well. I thought we could start off by maybe

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<v Speaker 1>talking a little bit about the news that transpired this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend with Iran, and maybe you can just start by

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<v Speaker 1>telling us your initial reaction to all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I have so many initial thoughts, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them is I'm kind of tired of the

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<v Speaker 3>so called America first crowd that really is America, only

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<v Speaker 3>they don't quite understand that America first means that for

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<v Speaker 3>your own house to be safe, you may have to

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<v Speaker 3>burn down the crack house that's across the street. And

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<v Speaker 3>I see this very much as authentic America first, just

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<v Speaker 3>as I see that being the case with operations in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the same thing about Ukraine, for example.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, Iran has been funding terrorism. Have they

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<v Speaker 3>funded hamas they funded the October seventh attacks in Israel?

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<v Speaker 3>And I know that there's some will be listening who

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<v Speaker 3>are not sympathetic to Israeli people who were murdered, mutilated,

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<v Speaker 3>women raped.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there's plenty that are within that.

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<v Speaker 3>Crowd and that thinking, but they're not understanding that Iran

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<v Speaker 3>as the head of the snake and the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 3>as well as the Obama administration is and no doubt

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<v Speaker 3>the Biden administration, being directed by Obama himself, basically funded

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<v Speaker 3>all of these kinds of attacks. Iran has directed tax

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<v Speaker 3>against the United States more than ninety times just since

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's very interesting because I noticed Trump recently

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that he thought that Iran, you know, tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get him first, and then he was saying, but

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<v Speaker 1>I actually got you first. So in a way, it

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<v Speaker 1>was very clear why Trump was going after community for example.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, he's he's privy to a lot of intelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>of course that we don't see. But it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm old enough, Danielle. You're quite young, and I'm old

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<v Speaker 3>enough to remember when I was a kid, the storming

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<v Speaker 3>of the US embassy nineteen seventy nine in Tehran and

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<v Speaker 3>the holding for more than I want to say it

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<v Speaker 3>was four hundred and forty five days, something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>of American hostages that were paraded nightly, you know, on

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<v Speaker 3>our news screens. I'm also old enough to recall many

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<v Speaker 3>of their attacks, murdering Americans, boarding American vessels, holding American

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<v Speaker 3>sailors hostage, and successive ministration is doing virtually nothing about this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would get it. You know, if the United

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<v Speaker 3>States were let's say, Cameroon, we might not have the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to do these things. But I'm appreciative of the

0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.080
<v Speaker 3>fact that Donald Trump has taken seriously the care of

0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.880
<v Speaker 3>the American people, the attacks on our soldiers, and the

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<v Speaker 3>realization that I saw Matt Walsh tweeted yesterday, and that's

0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.000
<v Speaker 3>a bright guy. But Matt had tweeted more or less

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<v Speaker 3>implying that the attacks that are taking place in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States and attacking I ran that those things are

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of mutually exclusive, and you have to

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<v Speaker 3>choose one or the other. Well, I mean, who do

0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.080
<v Speaker 3>you think is funding you know a lot of these

0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.240
<v Speaker 3>kinds of things. So where do they think the weaponry,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is coming from. Who do they think is

0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.680
<v Speaker 3>supplying the training as they did with October seventh, supplying

0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:05.400
<v Speaker 3>the technical expertise for cyber attacks and things of this nature.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go after both at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, do you think that it's interesting because we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the left and the right are almost like

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<v Speaker 1>especially like the woke right sort of, not that he is,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are people on that side. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they're basically becoming like the left because they are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a lot of the same kind of talking points.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, this actually be an interesting conversation with your

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<v Speaker 3>dad because I hate the term woke right. That's an oxymoron.

0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.960
<v Speaker 3>It makes no sense at all if you're woke your left,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, just period. I realized that we kind of

0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.720
<v Speaker 3>get stuck with these kind of terms, and I realized

0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.720
<v Speaker 3>the individual you know who came up with this, I said, idiotic,

0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.360
<v Speaker 3>It's an idiotic notion. If you're woke you're on the left.

0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.080
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't mean that you can't hold views that are

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<v Speaker 3>on the right, that you can't be a combination in

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<v Speaker 3>some sense of the two. But the mob, they're totalitarian

0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:06.800
<v Speaker 3>and their leanings. They're the kind of people that gather,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was just at the World Economic Forum

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<v Speaker 3>last month, or I should say now the month before last,

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<v Speaker 3>in mid January, where these are the kind of people

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<v Speaker 3>who meet and who want to dictate to the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of us the manner.

0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Which we live.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, I think we're seeing a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>that we previously fought, Danielle were solid conservatives who are

0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.920
<v Speaker 3>not actually solid conservatives. And I don't think it's because

0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.040
<v Speaker 3>they were lying about being conservative. I think it's what

0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:40.640
<v Speaker 3>we're seeing is their worldview being exposed. That these weren't

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<v Speaker 3>individuals who are actually rooted in an absolute that is

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<v Speaker 3>to say, in eternal principles. They were more kind of

0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.800
<v Speaker 3>rooted in their feelings and how they you know, a

0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:56.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of vague patriotism or a misty eyed Americana rather

0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:01.320
<v Speaker 3>than actually being rooted in you know, ideals, the kind

0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.199
<v Speaker 3>of ideals that we find expressed in the Declaration of

0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Independence and in our Constitution. And of course ultimately in scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and many of those people are actually just liberal.

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.399
<v Speaker 1>They pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>One name one, give me names, come on, give me oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, definitely like the Nick f Onetastes type crowd, because

0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:27.280
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to undo the those they want us to over,

0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats or whatever, so they're just very open about it,

0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.880
<v Speaker 1>of course. But then there are some other people who

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<v Speaker 1>are maybe normal people who are just kind of like

0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.200
<v Speaker 1>confused or swept in the middle of this stuff and

0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not really sure what they think about what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Iran. Maybe you can tell us what's your

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<v Speaker 1>kind of main argument for how this is America First?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your kind of way that you would explain

0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it to someone who's maybe not against it, but is

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think again, I'd want to make a distinction

0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:04.800
<v Speaker 3>between uh, the the America firsters who really are America only.

0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:09.000
<v Speaker 3>They're only concerned with anything that happens inside our borders.

0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:10.359
<v Speaker 2>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that at a very elementary level. But it's

0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.520
<v Speaker 3>elementary kind of thinking, you know, as I was, you know,

0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.520
<v Speaker 3>indicated earlier. You know, if your own home let's just

0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.160
<v Speaker 3>let's just think of it like this. If your own

0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:28.000
<v Speaker 3>home is constantly being you know, robbed, and there are

0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 3>people trying to you know, break through your front door,

0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.399
<v Speaker 3>and you have you have a choice there. Yeah, I

0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.000
<v Speaker 3>guess you can keep barricading it and try to make

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.200
<v Speaker 3>your fences higher and these kind of things. Or you

0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.640
<v Speaker 3>could try to clean up the neighborhood. You know, these

0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.800
<v Speaker 3>things tend to not happen, uh when you're in a

0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.720
<v Speaker 3>little better neighborhood. And I think Trump's approach here is

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<v Speaker 3>the recognition.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I was following caravans all over South America. I did

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<v Speaker 3>this for five years. You know. I was going to

0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:03.040
<v Speaker 3>cartel towns and Dairian Gap. I was following what we

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:08.040
<v Speaker 3>were mostly, or let's just say, a plurality of Venezuelans

0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.840
<v Speaker 3>making their way up to Mexico City where they could

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 3>board Labstia the Beast with a freight train where they

0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.479
<v Speaker 3>would get on the roof of it and follow it

0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 3>to the six hundred miles north to the US border.

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:24.639
<v Speaker 3>I kept screaming that until we solve the problem in Venezuela,

0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:28.000
<v Speaker 3>this is going to keep happening. And anybody who's going

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.600
<v Speaker 3>to go through the dairy and gap in flip flops,

0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 3>holding a baby and carrying a bottle of water. I

0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 3>promise you, your wall is not going to stop them.

0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Your wall isn't going to stop them. Now, according to CNN,

0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.080
<v Speaker 3>this was all being caused by global warming, which we

0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.359
<v Speaker 3>know is complete nonsense. It was being caused by Marxism

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.720
<v Speaker 3>that was turning economies one right after the other in

0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 3>South America, cratering them. So this was causing a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>So to me, Venezuela was America first. Well, the same

0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Speaker 3>thing is true. Well, we're talking about Iran and we're

0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about the funding of terrorism. It doesn't seem like

0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.640
<v Speaker 3>it's received much play in the United States, Danielle.

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 2>That again, just.

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.760
<v Speaker 3>During the first two and a half years of Biden's

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:16.800
<v Speaker 3>term in office, there were eighty three attacks on American

0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.119
<v Speaker 3>troops in the Middle East, either directly by Iran or

0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:24.760
<v Speaker 3>sponsored by Iran. So to me, going after Iran as

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<v Speaker 3>America first, we have to defend our people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. And Trump has been so great on a

0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of these foreign policy issues. And like you've said,

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.520
<v Speaker 1>he is very privy to a lot of information we

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 1>are privy to, and he's very swept in his actions.

0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>He's very quick, very decisive, and I think does things

0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that actually make a difference as opposed to maybe people

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.919
<v Speaker 1>fearing some kind of long dragged out war situation. But

0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Trump doesn't really operate like that. How likely are you

0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.719
<v Speaker 1>to see some kind of successful regime chain in Iran?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is going to be the next

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.320
<v Speaker 1>step for people there? Do you think people are kind

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.320
<v Speaker 1>of rising up? Or how do you see it?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's a that's a good question. It's a

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 3>complicated question. Let me deal with the first part of that.

0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:19.160
<v Speaker 3>You're right, you know, Trump is decisive. I don't think

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Trump spends a lot of time hand ringing, you know,

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:26.639
<v Speaker 3>over issues. I think he listens to the counsel of

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.320
<v Speaker 3>his generals and various other strategists and so forth and

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.960
<v Speaker 3>are involved here, and then he he uh, he takes action.

0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 3>I loved what he said yesterday, which was hilarious, that

0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 3>he was creating job openings, you know, in Iran, And.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no question that he's doing that. Now.

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Nation building in the Middle East is not something that

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.760
<v Speaker 3>the United States has proven to be particularly good at.

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't get the impression that that's his intention here.

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.120
<v Speaker 3>That he's not intending to, you know, turn this into

0:21:55.119 --> 0:22:00.639
<v Speaker 3>another Afghanistan or or or something to that effect, but

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 3>rather kind of leave it, at least to some extent

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 3>to the Iranian people. But Danielle something that I think

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:12.680
<v Speaker 3>that Americans are incredibly naive about it. And presently I'm

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 3>in Europe, I was in I was just in the

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Middle East, you know, so I just came here from

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:22.159
<v Speaker 3>the Middle East. Americans do not understand Islam. They don't.

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:27.439
<v Speaker 3>They're starting to understand it, you know, better. But the

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.000
<v Speaker 3>notion that you know, like, for instance, the Pope I'm

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 3>I can look out a window right here and almost

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 3>see the Vatican. I'm here in Rome. Yesterday the Pope

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 3>right here was talking about how there just needs to

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.439
<v Speaker 3>be dialogue and if we could all just get along.

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if only the Hobbits and the Orcs could

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 3>just get together and have a conversation, I'm sure they

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.440
<v Speaker 3>could work out all their differences. Never mind the fact

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 3>that that Orcs eat Hobbits. I mean, that's that's where

0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:01.639
<v Speaker 3>we find ourselves in Islam. Islam is an ideology of hate.

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.200
<v Speaker 3>It is an ideology of conquest, It is an ideology

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:09.120
<v Speaker 3>of misogyny, and the senator from my own state state

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.439
<v Speaker 3>of Alabama, Tommy Tupperval, who I can appreciate now more

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 3>as a senator than I could when he was coach

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 3>at the at Auburn University Tuberville, and he's starting to

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 3>gather others around him are pushing for the banning of Sharia.

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 3>I want to say to them, that's that's not the

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.639
<v Speaker 3>root of the tree. You have to ban Islam. And

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 3>I know that they probably think, well, we can't do

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 3>that because it's covered under the Bill of Rights. As

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can practice, you know, your religion fairly

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 3>and openly in the United States. Therefore we can't ban it. No,

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 3>I think we can, and I think we can with

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 3>the Constitution, because when Islam is taken seriously in his

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 3>practice according to the Qoran, according to the hdiv and

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 3>to the life of Muhammad, which every Muslim is supposed

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 3>to model themselves after, then it is by definition anti

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:09.439
<v Speaker 3>constitutional because it is by definition not about freedom of speech,

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 3>not about freedom of religion. It's not about freedom of

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the press, it's not about freedom of the assembly, it's

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 3>not about freedom of petition. The entire Bill of Rights

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 3>is nullified by Islam. When Islam is taken seriously, which

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 3>is to say nothing of things like you know, child marriage,

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 3>and you know, human trafficking and beheadings and these kinds

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 3>of things. This is real Islam. And when people say

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.959
<v Speaker 3>that they know a Muslim who's a very friendly person,

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 3>I know plenty myself. But those are those are not

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 3>Muslims who are practicing real Islam. Those are people that

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 3>I liken to Methodists in not taking their holy scriptures

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 3>very seriously. And I say that I could say that

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 3>as a form of Methodist. Please don't pelt me the

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 3>people who are listening out there, but you know, these

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 3>are these are very we'll say liberal Muslims that we're talking.

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 2>About in this case.

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think when it comes to immigrants especially,

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>we can decide who comes to this country. We can

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>decide what criteria we want to use and bring them

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>in because many of these people who are Muslim are

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>very recent immigrants to the US. It's not like we

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>just all of a sudden have these, you know, people

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>who are converting to Islam here. Most of it really

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:37.479
<v Speaker 1>being imported here, So can definitely be stopped. Wanted to

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>ask you about. So when it comes to kind of

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the nation building. We sort of touched on them a

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit. How do you think this might be Do

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 1>you think this might be similar, might be different to

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>what happened in Japan. Do you think people in Iran

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>are I mean, we've seen the videos because they're very

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 1>much celebratory, they're very excited. Do you think that they're

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>going to step up in this time?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 3>I like the reference to Japan. That's an astute reference

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 3>and a very good one. Japan serves as a model

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 3>for us and a reminder, a historical reminder that we

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 3>have defeated these types of ideologies before. So the you know,

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 3>the the Kamikazes of the nineteen thirties and forties were

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, the suicide bombers of that era, and the

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Japanese ultimately they some would argue they have the most

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 3>democratic constitution in the world, was written by General Douglas

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 3>MacArthur and his staff, and it remains in effect there

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 3>to this day in Japan. Having been there, it's a

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:48.719
<v Speaker 3>remarkable peaceful country. So we have done that before. I

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 3>don't know, however, that the United States today is as

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 3>committed to bringing something like that about as the United

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>States was at the time. I want to say MacArthur was,

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember, but he was basically, you know, as

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 3>William Manchester says, an American caesar in Japan for quite

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 3>some time, with extraordinary power at his disposal. But the

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 3>fact of the matter is Japan does serve as a

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 3>model that this can be done. These types of ideologies

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<v Speaker 3>can be defeated.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the problems, unfortunately, is while Japan an Ireland

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<v Speaker 3>and emperor worship in fascist militarism that characterized Japan at

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<v Speaker 3>that time was isolated to Japan. Right now we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a country that's surrounded, you know, by other

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<v Speaker 3>countries that share the same type of ideology, which makes

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<v Speaker 3>it much much more difficult. So I don't know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure if the United States will try to follow

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<v Speaker 3>a policy like that. I tend to think as much

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<v Speaker 3>as I like Trump, and I was Gotsha was at

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<v Speaker 3>mar A Lago a few times and there to see

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<v Speaker 3>your father's movie, wonderful movie two thousand Mules. So I

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<v Speaker 3>like I like Donald Trump very much, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump shares one of the flaws that is common

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<v Speaker 3>to Americans and to American foreign policy forever and that

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<v Speaker 3>is that we're a fairly trusting, give the other guy

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<v Speaker 3>the benefit of the doubt, and a little naive when

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<v Speaker 3>we're dealing, particularly when we're dealing with ideologies like this,

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<v Speaker 3>and and I think we can't be we can We

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<v Speaker 3>dare not risk that in this case. Case in point

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<v Speaker 3>the Israelis. If anybody in the world should know better

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<v Speaker 3>than to be naive, it would be the Israelis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yaya Sinoir, who who engineered the October seventh attacks, spent

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<v Speaker 2>more than half of his adult life in Israeli prison,

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<v Speaker 2>who's having fainting spells, headaches. The Israelis discovered he had

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<v Speaker 2>a brain tumor. They took him to an Israeli hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Surgery was performed removing the brain tumor, saving his life,

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<v Speaker 2>which he himself acknowledged. In twenty eleven or twelve, he

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<v Speaker 2>was exchanged in a prison swap, that is, for Israeli hostages.

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<v Speaker 3>And how did he pay the Israelis. I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 3>thought he would feel indebted to them.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He raped and murdered and mutilated their people. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>we're dealing with here, and we can't let our guard down.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't be naive in dealing with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. We cannot let our guard down be naive.

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<v Speaker 1>Great point, well, Larry, thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us today. I really appreciate your insights here well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Danielle, pleasure to be with you.