WEBVTT - “Hell to Pay:” Citizen Kane Returns

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro

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<v Speaker 1>American student organization in the country, fighting for the future

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<v Speaker 1>of our republic. My call is to fight evil and

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<v Speaker 1>to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you

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<v Speaker 1>is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But

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<v Speaker 1>if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end

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<v Speaker 1>up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>stop sending your kids to college. You should get married

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<v Speaker 1>as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Sign up and become an activist.

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<v Speaker 1>most important decision I ever made in my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I encourage you to do the same. Here I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Lord, Use me.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, welcome back our two of The Charlie Kirk Show,

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<v Speaker 4>and I am extraordinarily excited about our next guest, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you why, because he is a dear friend

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<v Speaker 4>and he has not been back on the show since

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<v Speaker 4>we lost Charlie, and he at various points in this

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<v Speaker 4>show's history, has been a regular. He even joined us

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<v Speaker 4>into trot and play that clip, and that of course

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<v Speaker 4>is Kine from Citizen Free Press. Very excited to have

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<v Speaker 4>you back on the show, my friend. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 4>the Charlie Kirk Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, happy to be here. Andrew. I checked, you know

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<v Speaker 3>on the zoom infight for this interview. It was February thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the last time you were on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was the last time I owned so you

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<v Speaker 3>and I talked obviously February March April. I remember we

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<v Speaker 3>dm back and forth. But I was just as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I got pissed off about deficits about the right in

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<v Speaker 3>the big Beautiful Bill, and I was having a battle

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<v Speaker 3>with besstt and and russ Vote and you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I just was negative. Man. All I would have

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<v Speaker 3>had to say was negative stuff about how there wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>enough there weren't enough spending cuts. So I just I

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<v Speaker 3>ducked out of the the media scene for six months

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<v Speaker 3>or so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, that's interesting, and Blake will remember this

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<v Speaker 4>as well. We kind of went through our own journey,

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<v Speaker 4>and Charlie went through his own journey with the Big

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<v Speaker 4>Beautiful Bill, and I think it really turned for him

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<v Speaker 4>when we had Stephen Miller on the show. It was

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<v Speaker 4>an extended conversation like thirty thirty five minutes, and it

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<v Speaker 4>went viral, you know, kind of explaining the nuances of

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<v Speaker 4>the bill, why Steven Miller was in supportive. Obviously, he's

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<v Speaker 4>part of the administration, so you've got to assume that

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<v Speaker 4>he's you know, going to say supporting things. But it

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<v Speaker 4>was actually an incredibly compelling moment, and I remember that

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<v Speaker 4>that clip went viral and really helped galvanize a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the basis support for that bill. But listen, we

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<v Speaker 4>understand everybody wanted less spending. We all want less spending,

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<v Speaker 4>we do, But go ahead, kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well yeah, I was gonna say I understood Besson's

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<v Speaker 3>point the whole time, and I even tried to promote it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was giving them a fair shake. And

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<v Speaker 3>what he was saying was basically this, you know, three hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the spending cut number, you know, for the

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<v Speaker 3>first year was one hundred and fifty six billion. And

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<v Speaker 3>his point was, look, if we cut three hundred billion

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<v Speaker 3>or three fifty or four hundred billion out of discretionary,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually gonna take a one percent slice out of GDP.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what he was worried about. He was saying,

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<v Speaker 3>give them four years, they're gonna get this right. He

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<v Speaker 3>was talking all about measuring it as a percentage of GDP.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's like, we're at seven percent. Now give us

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<v Speaker 3>four years, we'll get it into the threes. We'll get

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<v Speaker 3>it down to, you know, to where the annual deficit

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<v Speaker 3>is just three and a half percent of GDP. And

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<v Speaker 3>I understood his point, and I and that's what Stephen

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<v Speaker 3>Miller was talking about. I was just you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>I've told you privately, right, I right. The whole reason

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<v Speaker 3>I'm into politics that I got radicalized back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty seven when I was working looking at CNN, was

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<v Speaker 3>was the national debt and that's when it crossed like

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<v Speaker 3>a trillion and a half or two trillion. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, it's I have a stick up my

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<v Speaker 3>butt about the debt and deficit. And that's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>figured somehow I got this large audience after eight years, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and I might as well use it. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>used it to just kind of drive the point that

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<v Speaker 3>Senator Johnson and a few others were really making about cuts.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I'm over it. I was never against the bill,

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<v Speaker 3>and I made that clear on the final day that

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<v Speaker 3>I fully supported it.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, whatever, And I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Get that's admirable.

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<v Speaker 6>That's admirable because we do we do need people to

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<v Speaker 6>care about that. We can't forget about it because people

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<v Speaker 6>it's the thing everyone in the country loves to just

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<v Speaker 6>push under the rug. But the rug is getting it's

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<v Speaker 6>getting very elevated at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>But we wanted to have you on King because what

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<v Speaker 6>Charlie loved talking to you about so.

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<v Speaker 5>Much was you.

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<v Speaker 6>You have those links out there. You see what people

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<v Speaker 6>are clicking on, what they care about. You are incredibly

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<v Speaker 6>good vibes reader, as it were, And we've had a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of discussion this last fall about what are the

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<v Speaker 6>vibes on the right? Are they feeling optimistic or are

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<v Speaker 6>feeling downbeat? How quickly can one change can change from

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<v Speaker 6>the one to the other. So the floor is yours.

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<v Speaker 3>All that question well, here's what I would say quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, you know what, the base is fine there,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe scared Again. I'm gonna make the distinction between the

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter base and the base that never goes on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>unless they're on a link, you know, from CFP people

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<v Speaker 3>who don't have Twitter accounts. So again the scared part,

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<v Speaker 3>why is that? Well, it's always it's always the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing that we get our butts kicked in these special elections,

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<v Speaker 3>in these off your elections, And Charlie and I would

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<v Speaker 3>go through that. He would be like, chill out, Kane,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be okay. We're gonna get turnout, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty four and not if you were. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you remember we lost what thirteenth straight of those

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<v Speaker 3>special elect or Democrats overperformed in thirteenth straight. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>they're scared because of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm gonna play a clip from this was your

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<v Speaker 4>first public appearance with Charlie and I in Detroit at

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<v Speaker 4>our People's Convention last year. Let's go ahead and play

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<v Speaker 4>one peven.

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<v Speaker 1>If we do not expand our base with new voter

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<v Speaker 1>registration and high turnout, we are not going to win.

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<v Speaker 5>And the higher turnout the higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Likelihood that we are going to wines and Democrats know this,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we need to engage in every legal way

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<v Speaker 1>we possibly can to make it too big to rig

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<v Speaker 1>and Kane, if our elections were actually honest and secure,

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<v Speaker 1>what would the result end up being.

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<v Speaker 3>I want people to understand what Turning Point Action Turning

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<v Speaker 3>Point USA has been doing over the last six months

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<v Speaker 3>regarding chasing the vote. All right, what Andrew just talked

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<v Speaker 3>about the low propensity voters.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to get out and register.

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<v Speaker 2>At all, you know, play by the rules. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>like these rules.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't think that absentee balance are the way to

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<v Speaker 3>go for the future, but as long as they're part

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<v Speaker 3>of the system, we have to use that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good memory. Kin, if you can hear me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if you're if you're with us, or

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<v Speaker 4>if we're reconnecting you, but the actually you and I

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<v Speaker 4>reconnected recently, and I was telling you I've gotten a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of emails at Freedom at Charliekirk dot com saying

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<v Speaker 4>where's Citizen Free Press, where's Kane?

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<v Speaker 2>Where is he?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm now looking through some of our emails. In fact,

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<v Speaker 6>I think I was even we were inspired to reach

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<v Speaker 6>out to him again because we had we had an

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<v Speaker 6>email from Samantha just a few a week ago. Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>Blake and Andrew, has anyone checked in with Citizen Kane?

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<v Speaker 6>Is he doing okay? And I said, yes, we still

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<v Speaker 6>talk to him. He's doing well, but we actually need

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<v Speaker 6>to get him on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so this is this is a good time to

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<v Speaker 4>bring up the updates in Indiana. I cannot tell you

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<v Speaker 4>how many emails I've gotten or text from reporters about Indiana.

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<v Speaker 4>So we announced this last week. We had a rally

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<v Speaker 4>there at the state House in Indiana. And there is

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<v Speaker 4>a big, big fight that is brewing right now and

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to come to a head probably this week

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<v Speaker 4>where they are going to vote on the new maps

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<v Speaker 4>in Indiana. So are we going to have a completely

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<v Speaker 4>red state, all Republican congressional districts redrawn. There's a certain

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<v Speaker 4>percentage of the senators in that state that have not

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<v Speaker 4>indicated which way they are going to vote. There is

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<v Speaker 4>a strong possibility. And the reason this is pertinent to

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<v Speaker 4>Kin obviously is that's his home state. He's a big

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<v Speaker 4>Indiana Hoosier, and so they are going to reconvene Monday

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<v Speaker 4>afternoon to begin consideration of House Built ten thirty two,

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<v Speaker 4>and the redesign would likely eliminate Indiana's two Democratic held

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<v Speaker 4>congressional districts to create a nine zero Republican map ahead

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<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge, huge deal.

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<v Speaker 4>The House approved the redistricting bill as expected, on a

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<v Speaker 4>vote fifty seven to forty one. Twelve Republicans joined all

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats in opposition, but Senate President pro Tem Roderick Bray

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<v Speaker 4>has warned that there are not enough votes to move

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<v Speaker 4>that idea forward. And so what's happening in the background

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<v Speaker 4>here is that groups like Turning Point Action and others,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a big coalition that is building informaty for me.

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<v Speaker 4>We are going to have congressional level spending going after

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<v Speaker 4>to primary these senators in Indiana to get them more

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<v Speaker 4>in alignment with their base voters.

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<v Speaker 2>The base voters in.

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<v Speaker 4>Indiana want this new map, Cain, I've transitioned since you've

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<v Speaker 4>been gone to this new redistricting map. There is a huge,

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<v Speaker 4>huge push going on right now.

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<v Speaker 6>How do people feel about redistricting Indiana and across the country.

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<v Speaker 3>They're incredibly pissed off. In Indiana that the Indiana Senate

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<v Speaker 3>is blowing all this smoke. As you've probably mentioned, the

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<v Speaker 3>vote was fifty seven to forty one in the House,

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana House, just on Friday, right, and that was with

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<v Speaker 3>ten or eleven Democrats or Republicans defecting and voting with Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>There's going to be hell to pay if the Indiana

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<v Speaker 3>Senate doesn't approve this thing. In that political article, they

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<v Speaker 3>say that Mike Johnson's been making phone calls and don't

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<v Speaker 3>bet on this outcome yet. We may get our map.

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<v Speaker 4>be hell to pay. And I talk about this. I

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<v Speaker 4>talked about this last week. Blake will remember that when

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<v Speaker 4>you have a solidly read state that gets kind of out,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's left out on an island of its own.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not focusing on it during a presidential year because

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a swing state. What happens is these incumbent

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<v Speaker 4>political parties and machines are able to keep existing. They

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just hide in the shadows, and you get

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<v Speaker 4>this misalignment between the base voters that are consuming content

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<v Speaker 4>at a citizen free press that are consuming content on

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<v Speaker 4>the show, they get misaligned with the base, voters and

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<v Speaker 4>the political class. And that's what you're having in Indiana

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<v Speaker 4>where you have these weak, squishy senators that are standing

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<v Speaker 4>in the way of what the base wants and there

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<v Speaker 4>will be held to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Kaine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you had and as an Indiana resident, you

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<v Speaker 3>had no idea this is going on, right, there's never

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<v Speaker 3>a test, there's how do you know that these people

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<v Speaker 3>are this way, that they're this squishy, that they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to react this way to a simple redistricting. So it

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<v Speaker 3>caught you know it. I think it's surprised the voters.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, I'm sure you mentioned it. You know, Indiana

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<v Speaker 3>is a big pro Trump state. It's we've been plus

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<v Speaker 3>twenty or so for the last two elections. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>we sent we sent Evan by packing again, you know

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<v Speaker 3>when he thought he could waltz back in for a

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<v Speaker 3>Senate seat. So anyway, this is a strong Trump state

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<v Speaker 3>and it's it's shocking that the you know that so

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<v Speaker 3>many of the state senators are this out of touch. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>as I sort of said before we went to break,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, calls have been made, there's been pressure that

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<v Speaker 3>has been applied this weekend. So you know, I'm watching

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<v Speaker 3>it by the hour on local TV. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>see how the Senate, how this sort of plays out.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we have a chance, you know, to eliminate

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<v Speaker 3>and last thing I'll say before throwing it back. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the two Democrat seats is held by Andre Carson.

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<v Speaker 3>He's done nothing in his life except serve under his mom.

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<v Speaker 3>His mom, I forget her name, but she was a

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<v Speaker 3>congresswoman from Indianapolis for fifty years. She died like in

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<v Speaker 3>her eighties or nineties in the last I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say ten fifteen years ago. And our son has

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<v Speaker 3>just swooped into the into that seat, so be wonderful

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<v Speaker 3>to get him out of Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta ask you can what about this this Indiana

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<v Speaker 4>state Senator Michael Bohachek that says he will oppose redistricting

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<v Speaker 4>because Trump said the R word.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that guy got pissed off, right, they got Trump

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<v Speaker 3>said retard in a true social post. And this guy

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<v Speaker 3>got offended because he has a son, I believe, who

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<v Speaker 3>has autism or some learning disability. And I understand that

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<v Speaker 3>on a personal level, but that's not what your job is.

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<v Speaker 3>His job isn't to sort of protect his family. His

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<v Speaker 3>job is to do the right thing for the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Indiana. And so you know, to me, that's completely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he's gonna be on our list here. And you

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<v Speaker 4>know he by the way, he recently pleaded guilty, apparently

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<v Speaker 4>to driving while intoxicated. He was three times Indiana's legal limit,

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<v Speaker 4>So there's some inconsistencies in his background. Cane, give us

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<v Speaker 4>an update on your traffic. How's things going at Citizen

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<v Speaker 4>Free Press.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Well, here's an interesting peek into how media works.

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<v Speaker 3>When your side wins, traffic goes down. When your side loses,

0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.680
<v Speaker 3>traffic goes up. So when Biden won twenty twenty the

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<v Speaker 3>last four years, people are freaked out. They're checking noos.

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<v Speaker 3>They're checking my site eight times a day. Now I

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<v Speaker 3>get the same number of people every day, but they

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<v Speaker 3>check about five times. But that, in all honesty, part

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<v Speaker 3>of that is probably due to my slacking, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because you read the side every day the last six months.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, for the first time in nine years, I

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<v Speaker 3>decided not to work sixteen eighteen hours a day and

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<v Speaker 3>I work twelve to fourteen so there's fewer up There

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<v Speaker 3>have been fewer updates, but Traffick's still find I'm doing

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<v Speaker 3>twelve million pages a day. It's about six and a

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<v Speaker 3>half million people per month come on their own to

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<v Speaker 3>the homepage. So that's two percent of the populatation.

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<v Speaker 4>Well done, massive powerhouse at System Free Press, Caine. It

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<v Speaker 4>feels like we're getting like the old vibes back. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not kidding. I was telling the team when I walked

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<v Speaker 4>into the studio today, I was like, man, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>the vibe shift. There's like a I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>it is. Maybe it's just in my head, but having

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<v Speaker 4>you back on feels really, really good. I hope you

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<v Speaker 4>will not be a stranger Kane, and that you will

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<v Speaker 4>come back more often because we need to keep the

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<v Speaker 4>base focused, and that's what you and Charlie did. What's

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<v Speaker 4>with you and me and Charlie and Blake keep the

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<v Speaker 4>base focus on those on the main things like Hey, redistricting,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a huge fight that's happening this week. You got

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<v Speaker 4>to contact your senators. By the way, if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to get involved. Tpaction dot Com Forward slash Act Indiana,

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<v Speaker 4>we might I think we have that ur from last week.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys can find out we should put it up

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<v Speaker 4>on the lower banner. You can send letters to everybody

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<v Speaker 4>Act Indiana tpaction dot com Ford slash act Indiana. We

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<v Speaker 4>gotta put the pressure on these guys. But Ken, I

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<v Speaker 4>have to bring this topic up. It's Charlie loved college football,

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<v Speaker 4>so we keep talking about it because we are in

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<v Speaker 4>the playoff bracket period and I have to I can't

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<v Speaker 4>believe that we're sitting in a situation where Indiana is

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<v Speaker 4>the number one team.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did this come from?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea, and you knew this would be

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<v Speaker 3>a topic I could talk about. I've been going to

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<v Speaker 3>games since I was six years old. The football stadium

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<v Speaker 3>is a mile from my house that I grew up in,

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<v Speaker 3>and I rolled around on those stupid hills and rolled

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<v Speaker 3>around in that stadium. So for fifty some years I've

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<v Speaker 3>been a fan. And in what fifteen coaches all average,

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<v Speaker 3>all fail. You get one guy. One guy brings in

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<v Speaker 3>his this philosophy that I've never heard before. Every play

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<v Speaker 3>has a life of its own, you know, independent of

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<v Speaker 3>the play before he brings it in, and they go

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<v Speaker 3>what We went eleven and zero last year until we

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<v Speaker 3>lost to Ohio State. And then, you know, anyway, it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not expect to win the game. In Indy.

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<v Speaker 3>The Town's on fire were ranked number one for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time in history. You know, I don't. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>even believe it's happening. I still, you know, I had to.

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<v Speaker 3>We lost thirty straight years to Ohio State, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want people to know. You know, when Andrew

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<v Speaker 3>talks about football, he was an All States safety in Nevada.

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<v Speaker 2>In high school.

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<v Speaker 3>He could have played college safety for a bunch of schools,

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<v Speaker 3>so he knows football better than I do. But this

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<v Speaker 3>is insane. And it was insane that Indiana went to

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<v Speaker 3>Oregon and won. And I thought of our dear brother

0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Charlie then, and you know how much he loved University

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<v Speaker 3>of Oregon football. And it's just it's also bittersweet, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's exciting. And and what the heck? Where you know

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<v Speaker 3>we're ranked number one? How about that?

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<v Speaker 4>How about that you beat the Ohio State buck guys

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<v Speaker 4>in danny On, our team was in tears, but they're

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<v Speaker 4>still right number two. You might get a rematch here, Hey, Blake,

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<v Speaker 4>you're the Catholic here, notre Dame was left out, which

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<v Speaker 4>is a big scandal across college football. I'm sorry, do

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<v Speaker 4>you care?

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<v Speaker 5>I am angry.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm angry that Notre Dame is throwing a temper tantrum.

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<v Speaker 6>And so one they turned down the Catholics Versus Mormon ball,

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<v Speaker 6>but they also turned down specifically it is the pop

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<v Speaker 6>Tart Bowl, in which they literally sacrifice the pop tart,

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<v Speaker 6>They lower the mascot into the giant toaster oven, and

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<v Speaker 6>then they consume the mascot. Yes, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>probably the best modern tr we have in college football.

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<v Speaker 6>And they're they're pooping on it. I think they're being

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<v Speaker 6>kind of babies, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in a tantrum cane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they are from from the state. First off, Blake

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<v Speaker 3>is one hundred percent correct about the pop tart thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's this hilarious meme thing they do at this ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen it the last few years. But yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 3>throwing a fit.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 3>They had the ESPN reporter on scene yesterday and she

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<v Speaker 3>said people were walking the players were walking out with

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<v Speaker 3>their heads down. They feel like that. They called it

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<v Speaker 3>a forest.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole deal, for people who don't know, is suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>Miami jumped BYU in the rankings, so they were comparing

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<v Speaker 3>Miami dead on with Notre Dame, and they decided in

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<v Speaker 3>that comparison that Miami gets the bid because Miami beat

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<v Speaker 3>them in the first or second game of the season,

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<v Speaker 3>head to head. So and that had pissed off Notre

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<v Speaker 3>Dame fans because in the preceding, you know, college football

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<v Speaker 3>puts out the committee puts out rankings once a week

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<v Speaker 3>separate from AP and the coaches poll, and Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 3>had been ranked ahead of Miami. So they fell in

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<v Speaker 3>what they call a false sense of security that they

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<v Speaker 3>were going to get the bid. So, yeah, there's the

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<v Speaker 3>pop tark. Great work by your producers. Well yeah, Notre

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<v Speaker 3>Dame is like they're taking their ball and going home.

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<v Speaker 3>They're saying, if we don't get into the.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well we're looping around.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember when it was only you know, they only

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<v Speaker 6>had the national title game and there was no playoff,

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<v Speaker 6>and people would complain all unfair things caused people to leap,

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<v Speaker 6>and we can fix this if we have a four

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<v Speaker 6>team playoff, and then teams didn't they'd complain about how

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<v Speaker 6>unfair they didn't get in the final four and now

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<v Speaker 6>they're like, we made twelve teams, every remotely plausible national

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<v Speaker 6>champion will get in, and they're still throwing a huge

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<v Speaker 6>temper chantrum. And I would say, notre dame, if you

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<v Speaker 6>want to not throw a temper tantrum about how it's

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<v Speaker 6>unfair to overtake you win all your games or join

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<v Speaker 6>a conference that you can win and get another win

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<v Speaker 6>in the final week of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we have to go because we're running out

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<v Speaker 4>make it your homepage. Just go there all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Caine, it is so good to have you back, my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a blast in the past and really a good vibe,

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<v Speaker 4>good vibe shift come back soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Likewise, good good send both of you, and I'm maybe

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<v Speaker 4>me that clip really quick, I want to play it

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<v Speaker 4>because it's just it's just really sweet. So anyways, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>get to that clip in just a second. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to bring in Will Chamberlain. He is the

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<v Speaker 4>senior counsel for the Article three projects that he works

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<v Speaker 4>with our good friend Mike Davis does a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Will. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirkshow. It's good to

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<v Speaker 2>have you here.

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<v Speaker 7>It's good to be with you. Longtime no see, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>haven't been on since before Ovis. Charlie's passing, so I

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<v Speaker 7>you know, hope you know, miss you guys, and obviously

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<v Speaker 7>wishing you very very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>Will.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been fantastic. You've been so supportive and we really

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate it genuinely.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a legal mind.

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<v Speaker 4>You're working with, like we said, Mike Davis, who's a

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<v Speaker 4>frequent guest on this show. And there's really I think

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<v Speaker 4>two big stories on the legal front. Maybe you would

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<v Speaker 4>argue there's more, and so we can get to those

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<v Speaker 4>as well if we have time. But the first one,

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<v Speaker 4>and we've already got to the birthright citizenship in our one.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to revisit that with you. But the other

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<v Speaker 4>big one that kind of was making waves this weekend

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<v Speaker 4>is what's happening in Europe, of course, with the DSA,

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<v Speaker 4>the Digital Services Act, which was put in place in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three, and it affects I would believe censorship.

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<v Speaker 4>X was one of the if not the only, major

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<v Speaker 4>social media platform that has defied DSA and they got

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<v Speaker 4>a big fine of one hundred and forty million dollars

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<v Speaker 4>on hundred twenty million euros over the weekend that was announced.

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<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk is raging about it, calling it BS but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not using the acronym. What is going on

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<v Speaker 4>here will and what are the implications for us here

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so the EU Commission has fined X for one

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<v Speaker 7>hundred and forty million dollars. They claim that the giving

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<v Speaker 7>out the verified check to anybody who pays eight dollars

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<v Speaker 7>a month for it is deceptive. Now that's not true

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<v Speaker 7>because Elon Musk and X have been extremely transparent in

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<v Speaker 7>how they've structured the Verified program. If anything, it was

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<v Speaker 7>the prior administration that was totally deceptive with how they

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<v Speaker 7>were handing out blue checks. It was a complete black box.

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<v Speaker 7>Now Elon's transparent. They're also going after Elon for refusing

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<v Speaker 7>to hand over X's proprietary API data so that European

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<v Speaker 7>researches researchers can go through it for free and figure

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<v Speaker 7>out what's wrong with X. All this is I think

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<v Speaker 7>part of what maybe Americans have sort of are sort

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<v Speaker 7>of waking up to, which is that there's this discordance

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<v Speaker 7>between the European Union and NATO, you know, and when

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 7>European countries put on their NATO hats, they're extraordinarily grateful

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<v Speaker 7>for the Transalatic Alliance being under the American security umbrella.

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<v Speaker 7>When they put on their EU hat, they're part of

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<v Speaker 7>an adversarial trade block that wants to exert leverage over

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<v Speaker 7>the United States and American companies. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>we should have to put up with that. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think that the Europeans need to make a choice whether

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<v Speaker 7>they prefer being under the American security umbrella or antagonizing

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<v Speaker 7>American companies, because we're not going to put up with both.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, so how does this impact American companies? Then

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<v Speaker 4>so all of the other social media sites, whether that

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<v Speaker 4>be Meta Google, they have complied. Is that right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and what are the implications for our free speech if

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<v Speaker 4>that is true?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, there's some sites that haven't that are kind of

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<v Speaker 7>only based in the United States, but that hasn't stopped

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 7>European regulators from going after them. For example, I believe

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<v Speaker 7>it's four Chan was sent letters by Offcom, the UK's

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<v Speaker 7>independent regulator, trying to tell them that they needed to

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<v Speaker 7>start censoring speech, but that obviously would be in violation

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<v Speaker 7>of their First Amendment rights under the Constitution. So they're

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<v Speaker 7>telling the UK to go pound sand. But it does

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 7>create this fundamental problem and in balance, where there's no

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<v Speaker 7>cost to these European countries going after the United States,

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 7>and that's I think that and we have to spend

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 7>a lot of money defending ourselves. So I think there's

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<v Speaker 7>a good lawyer by the name of Preston Burne who's

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<v Speaker 7>proposed something called the Granted Act that's already been taken

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<v Speaker 7>up in the state of Wyoming, and we're hearing from

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<v Speaker 7>the Department of State that they're looking at a federal

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<v Speaker 7>Grantite Act. And the idea is that anytime a European

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 7>sovereignty makes a threat against an American company that would

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<v Speaker 7>threaten them if they don't censor their speech, they immediately

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<v Speaker 7>have a private right of action here in the United

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 7>States to sue that sovereignty or that company for three

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 7>times the amount of the threat, which I think is

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<v Speaker 7>the right way to go. I think the European Union

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 7>is vastly overplaying its hand legally here. They are far

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<v Speaker 7>more dependent on access to the United States markets. They're

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 7>far more dependent on the United States security cooperation than

0:25:55.960 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 7>we are on them, and so we shouldn't and I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think we will put up with their continued threats

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<v Speaker 7>to our free speech.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just want to drive home how despicable this is.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of people don't realize how Europe works. So,

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<v Speaker 6>for example, this fine came from the European Commission. What's

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<v Speaker 6>the European Commission, Well, the European Union, even though they obvious,

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.199
<v Speaker 6>they obviously will scream all the time about democracy, but

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 6>it's super fake. You can't in America, we can elect

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 6>President Trump through an actual direct election. We are able

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 6>to elect our Congress. In the European Union, they have

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<v Speaker 6>the European Commission. And the way you get on the

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 6>European Commission is governments appoint members of it. They're the

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<v Speaker 6>only ones who can come up with any regulations, any

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 6>proposed laws from the European Union. No one in Europe

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.679
<v Speaker 6>actually gets to vote on these directly. They just have

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<v Speaker 6>the European Parliament and it gets an up or down

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 6>vote on stuff that comes from the European Commission. And

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<v Speaker 6>the other thing that's going on is Europe is an

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<v Speaker 6>economic sharp decline. They've decided it's immoral to make electric city,

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 6>it's immoral to build houses, it's immoral to really develop

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 6>any technology whatsoever, or to favor entrepreneurship. And so you

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 6>can look this up. I encourage everyone to google this phrase.

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<v Speaker 6>Regulatory superpower. This is what Europe is reduced to. Well,

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 6>we have eight hundred million people, so let's become a

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<v Speaker 6>quote regulatory superpower where we just pass laws and we

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<v Speaker 6>boss people around and in this case literally shake them

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<v Speaker 6>down for money.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what Europe is reduced to because.

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<v Speaker 6>They aren't innovative, they aren't dynamic. They're just rich because

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 6>of things that their ancestors did decades or hundreds of

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 6>years ago. And that's what we're stuck having to deal

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 6>with here. They're dependent on us for security, they're dependent

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 6>on us for innovation, and they think they can boss

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<v Speaker 6>around what we say on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, well, so diving into this DSA though,

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<v Speaker 4>what are the what are the dynamics, what are the

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<v Speaker 4>rules of it?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the stipulations?

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<v Speaker 7>Even it seems a lot like Calvin Ball honestly, like

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 7>it's like I think it, you know, probably has some

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 7>generic prohibition on deceptive trade practices, the kind of thing

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 7>we have here, But then it gives the EU this

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 7>incredible scope to interpret what it constitutes accepted trade practice.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 7>That doesn't look like there is a court involved in

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<v Speaker 7>making this decision or attemps any real due process or litigation.

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 7>It's just the European Commission decided that Twitter's verified process

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 7>was unlawful and that's the end of that. And moreover,

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 7>the way they're doing it, I mean, they're just completely

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 7>flagrantly in violation of American speech sarist prudence here. Sorry,

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 7>Like Elon Musk gets to determine how X verifies its

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 7>users as long as he's not lying about it, the

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 7>EU doesn't get to complain. You know, if the U

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 7>decides they want to just shut X out of its

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 7>market entirely, fine, that's great. Like it'll at least like

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 7>make it clear where we stand here, you know, like, oh,

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 7>you guys are actually antagonistic adversarial nations like China instead

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 7>of you know, supposedly friendly allied nations in a you know,

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 7>fellow inheritor of Western civilization. Okay, very well, we can

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 7>proceed on that basis. You know, the difference is China

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 7>has a real military and you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that's interesting. And this was near and dear

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 4>to Charlie's heart. By the way, this is one of

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 4>the themes of the last year, especially when he visited

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 4>the UK with Blake and some of the other team.

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 4>But it was it was an acknowledgment that the fundamental

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 4>relationship of our transatlantic allies, the inheritors, as you said,

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 4>of Western civilization, are finding themselves increasingly out of alignment

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 4>about basic things like free speech. You've heard jd Vance

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 4>talk about this, Senator Mark, Senator goodness, gracious State Department

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 4>is now Marco Rubio is going after them as well

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 4>and saying there's a misalignment here and how do we

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 4>get that alignment back into a place where we can

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 4>all say, hey, you know, we can actually shake hands

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 4>and we're runing in the same direction here. So Secretary

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.479
<v Speaker 4>of State Rubio has a role to play here is

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<v Speaker 4>what are the levers that we can now push back

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 4>against our friends across the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, So, as I mentioned, the granted actor is a

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 7>good lever. We want to give individuals who are threatened

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 7>by European censors a private right of action here and

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 7>eliminate European sovereign immunity for lawsuits here in the United States.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.239
<v Speaker 7>So if one of these European actors decides that they

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 7>want to go after an American citizen, we can say,

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 7>you're both that you don't have any sovereign immunity and

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 7>you're personally liable, so we can go after any of

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 7>your assets in the United States. So don't you dare.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 7>That's so that's step one. That's sort of a protective measure.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 7>I think step two is actually a broader recognition that

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 7>the European Union and its continued existence is actually anithetical

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 7>to American interests. The idea behind the European Union is

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 7>to create increased bargaining leverage by European countries against the

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 7>United States. And you know, again if they were you know,

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 7>if they want to be adversarial to the United States, fine,

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 7>but then they should have to do without our military protection.

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 7>And so you know, we should see, you know, we

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 7>know that the EU isn't just hostile to America, it's

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 7>also hostile to conserve of countries within the European Union,

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 7>the way they're hostile to Hungary, hostile to poll Land,

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 7>hostile to Italy, making demands of them to accept more migrants.

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 7>I think American policy and diplomatic policy should be to

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 7>foster and lift up those countries that are pushing back

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 7>against the European Union, to help them leave if they

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 7>want to leave, you know, to provide monetary incentives for

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 7>them to leave, and to make side deals of the

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 7>United States we should have, you know, as long until

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 7>the EU gets its act right, it makes clear that

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 7>it wants to be America's friend as opposed to America's

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 7>antagonist economically, then we should go ahead and be antagonistic

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 7>towards them, and maybe bring Hungary and Poland and Italy

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 7>and the Czech Republic into some side alliance and allow

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 7>them to leave the EU.

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.959
<v Speaker 4>Wow, Blake, your reaction to that idea is a creative

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 4>solution here.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I am basically happy with anything that restores

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 6>real European countries that reflect real European peoples as opposed

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 6>to this European Union bloated monstrosity, which it really I

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 6>know Charlie hated the word democracy, but I'm going to

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 6>apply it to Europe here. The entire point of the

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 6>European Union is to make glowbalist neoliberalism totally immune from

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 6>actual democratic pressures. It's entirely designed to make it so

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 6>what the globalist agenda is is not able to be

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 6>stopped by anyone because it's too separated, it's too immune

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 6>from immediate voter pressure, and it's too complex for most

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 6>people to understand. And the time has come for us

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 6>to shadow that apart. That is the European deep state.

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 6>The European deep state is not the bureaucracy of France

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 6>or Germany individually.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 5>It's this transnational.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 6>Project that elites have built, and the United States has

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 6>a direct role to play in undercutting that and saying

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 6>people should have a direct influence over what their countries.

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 4>Are like yeah, well said, and I did promise this

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 4>clips I'm gonna sneak it in real quick one oh four.

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<v Speaker 4>This is President Trump thanking Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 3>Young people are respecting this again too. I won the

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 3>young voter. The Republicans never win the young vote. I

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<v Speaker 3>want it easily, and I want to thank Charlie and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to thank TikTok. And there are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of reasons for it.

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<v Speaker 8>But there's never been a Republican who won the young

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<v Speaker 8>and I won the very young vote, so that's a

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<v Speaker 8>good sign.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought it was nice that President Trump continues

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<v Speaker 4>to give Charlie shoutouts. It was beautiful to see, especially

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<v Speaker 4>from our vantage point connection, open dialogue. These are the

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<v Speaker 4>things that build communities. Charlie Kirk and TikTok share in

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<v Speaker 4>that knowledge. That's why TikTok has built a space where

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of listening actually happens. People don't just post,

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<v Speaker 4>they respond. They build on each other's ideas. You'll see

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<v Speaker 4>a teacher simplifying a tough lesson so it finally clicks,

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<v Speaker 4>or gardener sharing a trick that saved their crop. But

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<v Speaker 4>what matters most is in the video, it's what comes

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<v Speaker 4>next someone asking a question, someone else answering with a

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<v Speaker 4>story of their own, and suddenly people who've never met

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<v Speaker 4>become a community built on curiosity. When people listen and

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<v Speaker 4>understand and a shift happens, walls come down, ideas travel further,

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<v Speaker 4>and connection, real connection takes their place. That's what listening does.

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<v Speaker 4>It reminds us that we're not as different as we

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<v Speaker 4>may think. And that's what makes TikTok so powerful. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a place where every post can turn into a conversation,

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<v Speaker 4>and every conversation can make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Portions of our program are sponsored in part by TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>Will tell us about the Article three project, how people

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<v Speaker 7>We do a lot of things to try and pressure

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<v Speaker 7>might have been on ice. But the voice of what

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<v Speaker 4>with all those projects. Okay, we got three minutes left here. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>we talked about birthright citizenship. Frame up. What's going to

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<v Speaker 4>happen if you have to get into the legal weeds,

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<v Speaker 4>We get it, and why it's important.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we're at the Supreme Court already, which is good,

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<v Speaker 7>and they took curciarrea before judgment on one of these cases,

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<v Speaker 7>which they don't normally do, meaning the Supreme Court thinks

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<v Speaker 7>it's really important. Basically, progresses are trying to pretend that

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<v Speaker 7>there's no debate here at all, that this is a

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<v Speaker 7>really simple question about the idea that if you're born

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<v Speaker 7>in the United States, you're a citizen unless you're like

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<v Speaker 7>the child of diplomats or the child of an invading army.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's actually a little more complicated than that, because

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<v Speaker 7>the key the decision the case will turn on the

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<v Speaker 7>meaning of the phrase subject to the jurisdiction of the idea,

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<v Speaker 7>being that you're not just a citizens you're born here.

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<v Speaker 7>You need to be subject to the jurisdiction of the

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<v Speaker 7>United States, and there's a lot of really good authority

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<v Speaker 7>that jurisdiction requires allegiance, and it requires the permission of

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<v Speaker 7>the sovereign to be here. So if you're the child

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<v Speaker 7>of a lawful, permanent resident, then sure you get you

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<v Speaker 7>get citizenship. But if you're the child of temporary visitors

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<v Speaker 7>or legal aliens, you aren't and you shouldn't because the

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<v Speaker 7>policy consequences of that are enormous and absurd. There's no

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<v Speaker 7>way that any rational country would want have a policy

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<v Speaker 7>like that that induces illegal immigration. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 7>it's really you know, as much as the Left wants

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<v Speaker 7>to pretend that this is straightforward as anything, but and

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<v Speaker 7>I think, honestly, I think we're going to win this one.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the Supreme Court is going to come down

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<v Speaker 7>on the side of saying that, you know, you're not

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<v Speaker 7>entitled the citizenship it's a child of illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you are the first person I think that I've

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<v Speaker 4>we've had on this show that has sounded a vote

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<v Speaker 4>of confidence. Blake is not so sure, or maybe you've

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<v Speaker 4>changed your opinion, Blake.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I I just I want to I want to see

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<v Speaker 6>it all play out. I maybe I should be from

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<v Speaker 6>Missouri again, you know the show me state.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so, Blake I want to see it succeed to

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<v Speaker 4>be Yeah, I was gonna say, to be very clear,

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<v Speaker 4>Blake is very much of the same mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think Blake is.

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<v Speaker 4>It is one of those weird issues where if you

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<v Speaker 4>go back to the framing of it and the drafting

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<v Speaker 4>of the amendment, it was clearly written for slaves, It

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<v Speaker 4>was clearly written for the children of slaves.

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<v Speaker 2>It was clearly debated.

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<v Speaker 4>And they even said when you look at the debate notes,

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<v Speaker 4>in the notes from the Senate that they were saying,

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<v Speaker 4>of course this.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't apply to foreigners and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>I will say, I will say I've been very impressed

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<v Speaker 6>with the Trump administrations laying out of the history of

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<v Speaker 6>it and really getting into what its origins are.

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<v Speaker 5>Their argument is very impressive.

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<v Speaker 6>I just worry in pragmatic terms, I just don't know

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<v Speaker 6>if this is Supreme Court, do we have five votes

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<v Speaker 6>that would take the plunge on that or are we

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<v Speaker 6>going to have that standard thing where they say, well,

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<v Speaker 6>people are too dependent on how it's been interpreted for

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<v Speaker 6>a long time. We don't like the implications of actually

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<v Speaker 6>going back to what the law was clearly intended to be.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're gonna woss out on it, and we've seen

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<v Speaker 6>even these quite conservative leaning courts make that decision time

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<v Speaker 6>and time again. So I'd be very happy if they

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<v Speaker 6>change course.

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<v Speaker 2>But show me.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got to see it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Will Chamberlain Article three Projects, Senior Counsel, Thank you

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<v Speaker 4>so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's great to see you again, my friend.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, good to be with you.

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