1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. You should get married 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Go start at turning point, you would say, college chapter. 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: Go start atturning point, you say, high school chapter. Go 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: find out how your church can get involved. 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: Sign up and become an activist. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: most important decision I ever made in my life, and 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: I encourage you to do the same. Here I am. 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: Lord, Use me. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: my family, friends and viewers. 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back our two of The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: and I am extraordinarily excited about our next guest, and 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why, because he is a dear friend 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: and he has not been back on the show since 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: we lost Charlie, and he at various points in this 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: show's history, has been a regular. He even joined us 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 4: into trot and play that clip, and that of course 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: is Kine from Citizen Free Press. Very excited to have 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: you back on the show, my friend. Welcome back to 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: the Charlie Kirk Show. 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, happy to be here. Andrew. I checked, you know 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: on the zoom infight for this interview. It was February thirteenth. 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: That was the last time you were on. 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the last time I owned so you 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: and I talked obviously February March April. I remember we 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: dm back and forth. But I was just as you know, 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: I got pissed off about deficits about the right in 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: the big Beautiful Bill, and I was having a battle 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: with besstt and and russ Vote and you know, and 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: so I just was negative. Man. All I would have 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: had to say was negative stuff about how there wasn't 43 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: enough there weren't enough spending cuts. So I just I 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: ducked out of the the media scene for six months 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 3: or so. 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that's interesting, and Blake will remember this 47 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: as well. We kind of went through our own journey, 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 4: and Charlie went through his own journey with the Big 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: Beautiful Bill, and I think it really turned for him 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: when we had Stephen Miller on the show. It was 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: an extended conversation like thirty thirty five minutes, and it 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: went viral, you know, kind of explaining the nuances of 53 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: the bill, why Steven Miller was in supportive. Obviously, he's 54 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: part of the administration, so you've got to assume that 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: he's you know, going to say supporting things. But it 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: was actually an incredibly compelling moment, and I remember that 57 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: that clip went viral and really helped galvanize a lot 58 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: of the basis support for that bill. But listen, we 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: understand everybody wanted less spending. We all want less spending, 60 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: we do, But go ahead, kid. 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, I was gonna say I understood Besson's 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: point the whole time, and I even tried to promote it, 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: you know, I was giving them a fair shake. And 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: what he was saying was basically this, you know, three hundred, 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: I think the spending cut number, you know, for the 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: first year was one hundred and fifty six billion. And 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: his point was, look, if we cut three hundred billion 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: or three fifty or four hundred billion out of discretionary, 69 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: it's actually gonna take a one percent slice out of GDP. 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: And that's what he was worried about. He was saying, 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: give them four years, they're gonna get this right. He 72 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: was talking all about measuring it as a percentage of GDP. 73 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: So he's like, we're at seven percent. Now give us 74 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: four years, we'll get it into the threes. We'll get 75 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: it down to, you know, to where the annual deficit 76 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: is just three and a half percent of GDP. And 77 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: I understood his point, and I and that's what Stephen 78 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: Miller was talking about. I was just you know, as 79 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: I've told you privately, right, I right. The whole reason 80 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: I'm into politics that I got radicalized back in nineteen 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: eighty seven when I was working looking at CNN, was 82 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: was the national debt and that's when it crossed like 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: a trillion and a half or two trillion. So I 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: just you know, it's I have a stick up my 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: butt about the debt and deficit. And that's you know, 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: figured somehow I got this large audience after eight years, right, 87 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: and I might as well use it. And so I 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: used it to just kind of drive the point that 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: Senator Johnson and a few others were really making about cuts. 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm over it. I was never against the bill, 91 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: and I made that clear on the final day that 92 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: I fully supported it. 93 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 94 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: Anyway, whatever, And I don't want to. 95 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: Get that's admirable. 96 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 6: That's admirable because we do we do need people to 97 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 6: care about that. We can't forget about it because people 98 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 6: it's the thing everyone in the country loves to just 99 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: push under the rug. But the rug is getting it's 100 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 6: getting very elevated at this point. 101 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 102 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 6: But we wanted to have you on King because what 103 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 6: Charlie loved talking to you about so. 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 5: Much was you. 105 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 6: You have those links out there. You see what people 106 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 6: are clicking on, what they care about. You are incredibly 107 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 6: good vibes reader, as it were, And we've had a 108 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 6: lot of discussion this last fall about what are the 109 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 6: vibes on the right? Are they feeling optimistic or are 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 6: feeling downbeat? How quickly can one change can change from 111 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 6: the one to the other. So the floor is yours. 112 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: All that question well, here's what I would say quickly. 113 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: I would say, you know what, the base is fine there, 114 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: maybe scared Again. I'm gonna make the distinction between the 115 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: Twitter base and the base that never goes on Twitter 116 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: unless they're on a link, you know, from CFP people 117 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: who don't have Twitter accounts. So again the scared part, 118 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: why is that? Well, it's always it's always the same 119 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: thing that we get our butts kicked in these special elections, 120 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: in these off your elections, And Charlie and I would 121 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: go through that. He would be like, chill out, Kane, 122 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: it's gonna be okay. We're gonna get turnout, you know, 123 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four and not if you were. I 124 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: mean you remember we lost what thirteenth straight of those 125 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: special elect or Democrats overperformed in thirteenth straight. So anyway, 126 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: they're scared because of that. 127 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna play a clip from this was your 128 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: first public appearance with Charlie and I in Detroit at 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: our People's Convention last year. Let's go ahead and play 130 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: one peven. 131 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: If we do not expand our base with new voter 132 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: registration and high turnout, we are not going to win. 133 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 5: And the higher turnout the higher. 134 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Likelihood that we are going to wines and Democrats know this, 135 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: and so we need to engage in every legal way 136 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: we possibly can to make it too big to rig 137 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: and Kane, if our elections were actually honest and secure, 138 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: what would the result end up being. 139 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: I want people to understand what Turning Point Action Turning 140 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: Point USA has been doing over the last six months 141 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: regarding chasing the vote. All right, what Andrew just talked 142 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 3: about the low propensity voters. 143 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: We've got to get out and register. 144 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: At all, you know, play by the rules. We don't 145 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: like these rules. 146 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: We don't think that absentee balance are the way to 147 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: go for the future, but as long as they're part 148 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: of the system, we have to use that. 149 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: It's a good memory. Kin, if you can hear me. 150 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you're if you're with us, or 151 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: if we're reconnecting you, but the actually you and I 152 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: reconnected recently, and I was telling you I've gotten a 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 4: bunch of emails at Freedom at Charliekirk dot com saying 154 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 4: where's Citizen Free Press, where's Kane? 155 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: Where is he? 156 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 6: I'm now looking through some of our emails. In fact, 157 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: I think I was even we were inspired to reach 158 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 6: out to him again because we had we had an 159 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 6: email from Samantha just a few a week ago. Hey, 160 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 6: Blake and Andrew, has anyone checked in with Citizen Kane? 161 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 6: Is he doing okay? And I said, yes, we still 162 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 6: talk to him. He's doing well, but we actually need 163 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: to get him on the show. 164 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: All right. 165 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: Well, so this is this is a good time to 166 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: bring up the updates in Indiana. I cannot tell you 167 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: how many emails I've gotten or text from reporters about Indiana. 168 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: So we announced this last week. We had a rally 169 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: there at the state House in Indiana. And there is 170 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: a big, big fight that is brewing right now and 171 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: it's going to come to a head probably this week 172 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: where they are going to vote on the new maps 173 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: in Indiana. So are we going to have a completely 174 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: red state, all Republican congressional districts redrawn. There's a certain 175 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: percentage of the senators in that state that have not 176 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: indicated which way they are going to vote. There is 177 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: a strong possibility. And the reason this is pertinent to 178 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: Kin obviously is that's his home state. He's a big 179 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: Indiana Hoosier, and so they are going to reconvene Monday 180 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: afternoon to begin consideration of House Built ten thirty two, 181 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: and the redesign would likely eliminate Indiana's two Democratic held 182 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 4: congressional districts to create a nine zero Republican map ahead 183 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty six. 184 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: It's a huge, huge deal. 185 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: The House approved the redistricting bill as expected, on a 186 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: vote fifty seven to forty one. Twelve Republicans joined all 187 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 4: Democrats in opposition, but Senate President pro Tem Roderick Bray 188 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: has warned that there are not enough votes to move 189 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,119 Speaker 4: that idea forward. And so what's happening in the background 190 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: here is that groups like Turning Point Action and others, 191 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: there's a big coalition that is building informaty for me. 192 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: We are going to have congressional level spending going after 193 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: to primary these senators in Indiana to get them more 194 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: in alignment with their base voters. 195 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: The base voters in. 196 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: Indiana want this new map, Cain, I've transitioned since you've 197 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: been gone to this new redistricting map. There is a huge, 198 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: huge push going on right now. 199 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 6: How do people feel about redistricting Indiana and across the country. 200 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: They're incredibly pissed off. In Indiana that the Indiana Senate 201 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 3: is blowing all this smoke. As you've probably mentioned, the 202 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: vote was fifty seven to forty one in the House, 203 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: Indiana House, just on Friday, right, and that was with 204 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: ten or eleven Democrats or Republicans defecting and voting with Democrats. 205 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: There's going to be hell to pay if the Indiana 206 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: Senate doesn't approve this thing. 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Blake will remember that when 232 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: you have a solidly read state that gets kind of out, 233 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: it's it's left out on an island of its own. 234 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: We're not focusing on it during a presidential year because 235 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: it's not a swing state. What happens is these incumbent 236 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: political parties and machines are able to keep existing. They 237 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: kind of just hide in the shadows, and you get 238 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: this misalignment between the base voters that are consuming content 239 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: at a citizen free press that are consuming content on 240 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 4: the show, they get misaligned with the base, voters and 241 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: the political class. And that's what you're having in Indiana 242 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 4: where you have these weak, squishy senators that are standing 243 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: in the way of what the base wants and there 244 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 4: will be held to pay. 245 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: Kaine. 246 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you had and as an Indiana resident, you 247 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: had no idea this is going on, right, there's never 248 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: a test, there's how do you know that these people 249 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: are this way, that they're this squishy, that they're going 250 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: to react this way to a simple redistricting. So it 251 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: caught you know it. I think it's surprised the voters. 252 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: And look, I'm sure you mentioned it. You know, Indiana 253 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: is a big pro Trump state. It's we've been plus 254 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: twenty or so for the last two elections. I mean 255 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: we sent we sent Evan by packing again, you know 256 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: when he thought he could waltz back in for a 257 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: Senate seat. So anyway, this is a strong Trump state 258 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: and it's it's shocking that the you know that so 259 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: many of the state senators are this out of touch. Again, 260 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: as I sort of said before we went to break, 261 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: you know, calls have been made, there's been pressure that 262 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: has been applied this weekend. So you know, I'm watching 263 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: it by the hour on local TV. So we're gonna 264 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: see how the Senate, how this sort of plays out. 265 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: I think we have a chance, you know, to eliminate 266 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: and last thing I'll say before throwing it back. One 267 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: of the two Democrat seats is held by Andre Carson. 268 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: He's done nothing in his life except serve under his mom. 269 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: His mom, I forget her name, but she was a 270 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: congresswoman from Indianapolis for fifty years. She died like in 271 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: her eighties or nineties in the last I don't know, 272 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 3: let's say ten fifteen years ago. And our son has 273 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: just swooped into the into that seat, so be wonderful 274 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,479 Speaker 3: to get him out of Congress. 275 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: I gotta ask you can what about this this Indiana 276 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 4: state Senator Michael Bohachek that says he will oppose redistricting 277 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 4: because Trump said the R word. 278 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy got pissed off, right, they got Trump 279 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: said retard in a true social post. And this guy 280 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: got offended because he has a son, I believe, who 281 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: has autism or some learning disability. And I understand that 282 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: on a personal level, but that's not what your job is. 283 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: His job isn't to sort of protect his family. His 284 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 3: job is to do the right thing for the state 285 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: of Indiana. And so you know, to me, that's completely ridiculous. 286 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 4: Well, he's gonna be on our list here. And you 287 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: know he by the way, he recently pleaded guilty, apparently 288 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 4: to driving while intoxicated. He was three times Indiana's legal limit, 289 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: So there's some inconsistencies in his background. Cane, give us 290 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: an update on your traffic. How's things going at Citizen 291 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: Free Press. 292 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, here's an interesting peek into how media works. 293 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: When your side wins, traffic goes down. When your side loses, 294 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: traffic goes up. So when Biden won twenty twenty the 295 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: last four years, people are freaked out. They're checking noos. 296 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: They're checking my site eight times a day. Now I 297 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: get the same number of people every day, but they 298 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: check about five times. But that, in all honesty, part 299 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: of that is probably due to my slacking, as you know, 300 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: because you read the side every day the last six months. 301 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: You know, for the first time in nine years, I 302 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: decided not to work sixteen eighteen hours a day and 303 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: I work twelve to fourteen so there's fewer up There 304 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: have been fewer updates, but Traffick's still find I'm doing 305 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: twelve million pages a day. It's about six and a 306 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: half million people per month come on their own to 307 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: the homepage. So that's two percent of the populatation. 308 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: Well done, massive powerhouse at System Free Press, Caine. It 309 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: feels like we're getting like the old vibes back. I'm 310 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: not kidding. I was telling the team when I walked 311 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 4: into the studio today, I was like, man, I feel 312 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: the vibe shift. There's like a I don't know what 313 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: it is. Maybe it's just in my head, but having 314 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: you back on feels really, really good. I hope you 315 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: will not be a stranger Kane, and that you will 316 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: come back more often because we need to keep the 317 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: base focused, and that's what you and Charlie did. What's 318 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: with you and me and Charlie and Blake keep the 319 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: base focus on those on the main things like Hey, redistricting, 320 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: that's a huge fight that's happening this week. You got 321 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: to contact your senators. By the way, if you want 322 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: to get involved. Tpaction dot Com Forward slash Act Indiana, 323 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: we might I think we have that ur from last week. 324 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: You guys can find out we should put it up 325 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: on the lower banner. You can send letters to everybody 326 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: Act Indiana tpaction dot com Ford slash act Indiana. We 327 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: gotta put the pressure on these guys. But Ken, I 328 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: have to bring this topic up. It's Charlie loved college football, 329 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: so we keep talking about it because we are in 330 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: the playoff bracket period and I have to I can't 331 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: believe that we're sitting in a situation where Indiana is 332 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: the number one team. 333 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: Where did this come from? 334 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 7: Uh? 335 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: I have no idea, and you knew this would be 336 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: a topic I could talk about. I've been going to 337 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: games since I was six years old. The football stadium 338 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: is a mile from my house that I grew up in, 339 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: and I rolled around on those stupid hills and rolled 340 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: around in that stadium. So for fifty some years I've 341 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: been a fan. And in what fifteen coaches all average, 342 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: all fail. You get one guy. One guy brings in 343 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: his this philosophy that I've never heard before. Every play 344 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: has a life of its own, you know, independent of 345 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: the play before he brings it in, and they go 346 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: what We went eleven and zero last year until we 347 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: lost to Ohio State. And then, you know, anyway, it's unbelievable. 348 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: I did not expect to win the game. In Indy. 349 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: The Town's on fire were ranked number one for the 350 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: first time in history. You know, I don't. I can't 351 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: even believe it's happening. I still, you know, I had to. 352 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: We lost thirty straight years to Ohio State, as you know, 353 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: and I want people to know. You know, when Andrew 354 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: talks about football, he was an All States safety in Nevada. 355 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: In high school. 356 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: He could have played college safety for a bunch of schools, 357 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: so he knows football better than I do. But this 358 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: is insane. And it was insane that Indiana went to 359 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: Oregon and won. And I thought of our dear brother 360 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: Charlie then, and you know how much he loved University 361 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: of Oregon football. And it's just it's also bittersweet, but 362 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 3: it's exciting. And and what the heck? Where you know 363 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: we're ranked number one? How about that? 364 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 4: How about that you beat the Ohio State buck guys 365 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: in danny On, our team was in tears, but they're 366 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: still right number two. You might get a rematch here, Hey, Blake, 367 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: you're the Catholic here, notre Dame was left out, which 368 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 4: is a big scandal across college football. I'm sorry, do 369 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: you care? 370 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 5: I am angry. 371 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: I'm angry that Notre Dame is throwing a temper tantrum. 372 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 6: And so one they turned down the Catholics Versus Mormon ball, 373 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 6: but they also turned down specifically it is the pop 374 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 6: Tart Bowl, in which they literally sacrifice the pop tart, 375 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 6: They lower the mascot into the giant toaster oven, and 376 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 6: then they consume the mascot. Yes, and I think that's 377 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 6: probably the best modern tr we have in college football. 378 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 6: And they're they're pooping on it. I think they're being 379 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 6: kind of babies, to be honest. 380 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: They're in a tantrum cane. 381 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: Yes, they are from from the state. First off, Blake 382 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: is one hundred percent correct about the pop tart thing. 383 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: It's this hilarious meme thing they do at this ball. 384 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: I've seen it the last few years. But yeah, they're 385 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 3: throwing a fit. 386 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: You. 387 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: They had the ESPN reporter on scene yesterday and she 388 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: said people were walking the players were walking out with 389 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: their heads down. They feel like that. They called it 390 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: a forest. 391 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: Right. 392 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: The whole deal, for people who don't know, is suddenly 393 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: Miami jumped BYU in the rankings, so they were comparing 394 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 3: Miami dead on with Notre Dame, and they decided in 395 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: that comparison that Miami gets the bid because Miami beat 396 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 3: them in the first or second game of the season, 397 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: head to head. So and that had pissed off Notre 398 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: Dame fans because in the preceding, you know, college football 399 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: puts out the committee puts out rankings once a week 400 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: separate from AP and the coaches poll, and Notre Dame 401 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: had been ranked ahead of Miami. So they fell in 402 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 3: what they call a false sense of security that they 403 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: were going to get the bid. So, yeah, there's the 404 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: pop tark. Great work by your producers. Well yeah, Notre 405 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 3: Dame is like they're taking their ball and going home. 406 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: They're saying, if we don't get into the. 407 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, well we're looping around. 408 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 6: I remember when it was only you know, they only 409 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 6: had the national title game and there was no playoff, 410 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 6: and people would complain all unfair things caused people to leap, 411 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 6: and we can fix this if we have a four 412 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 6: team playoff, and then teams didn't they'd complain about how 413 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 6: unfair they didn't get in the final four and now 414 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 6: they're like, we made twelve teams, every remotely plausible national 415 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 6: champion will get in, and they're still throwing a huge 416 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 6: temper chantrum. And I would say, notre dame, if you 417 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 6: want to not throw a temper tantrum about how it's 418 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 6: unfair to overtake you win all your games or join 419 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 6: a conference that you can win and get another win 420 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 6: in the final week of the season. 421 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: All right, we have to go because we're running out 422 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: of time. Citizen Free Press. You guys have to visit it, 423 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: make it your homepage. 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He is the 463 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: senior counsel for the Article three projects that he works 464 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: with our good friend Mike Davis does a lot of 465 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: other things. 466 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: Will. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirkshow. It's good to 467 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: have you here. 468 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 7: It's good to be with you. Longtime no see, you know, 469 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 7: haven't been on since before Ovis. Charlie's passing, so I 470 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 7: you know, hope you know, miss you guys, and obviously 471 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 7: wishing you very very well. 472 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 2: Thank you. 473 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 8: Will. 474 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: You've been fantastic. You've been so supportive and we really 475 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: appreciate it genuinely. 476 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: You are a legal mind. 477 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: You're working with, like we said, Mike Davis, who's a 478 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: frequent guest on this show. And there's really I think 479 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: two big stories on the legal front. Maybe you would 480 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: argue there's more, and so we can get to those 481 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: as well if we have time. But the first one, 482 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: and we've already got to the birthright citizenship in our one. 483 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 4: I want to revisit that with you. But the other 484 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 4: big one that kind of was making waves this weekend 485 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: is what's happening in Europe, of course, with the DSA, 486 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 4: the Digital Services Act, which was put in place in 487 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, and it affects I would believe censorship. 488 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: X was one of the if not the only, major 489 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: social media platform that has defied DSA and they got 490 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: a big fine of one hundred and forty million dollars 491 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: on hundred twenty million euros over the weekend that was announced. 492 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: Elon Musk is raging about it, calling it BS but 493 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: you know, not using the acronym. What is going on 494 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 4: here will and what are the implications for us here 495 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 4: in the United States. 496 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, so the EU Commission has fined X for one 497 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 7: hundred and forty million dollars. They claim that the giving 498 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 7: out the verified check to anybody who pays eight dollars 499 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 7: a month for it is deceptive. Now that's not true 500 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 7: because Elon Musk and X have been extremely transparent in 501 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 7: how they've structured the Verified program. If anything, it was 502 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 7: the prior administration that was totally deceptive with how they 503 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 7: were handing out blue checks. It was a complete black box. 504 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 7: Now Elon's transparent. They're also going after Elon for refusing 505 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 7: to hand over X's proprietary API data so that European 506 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 7: researches researchers can go through it for free and figure 507 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 7: out what's wrong with X. All this is I think 508 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 7: part of what maybe Americans have sort of are sort 509 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 7: of waking up to, which is that there's this discordance 510 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 7: between the European Union and NATO, you know, and when 511 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 7: European countries put on their NATO hats, they're extraordinarily grateful 512 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 7: for the Transalatic Alliance being under the American security umbrella. 513 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 7: When they put on their EU hat, they're part of 514 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 7: an adversarial trade block that wants to exert leverage over 515 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 7: the United States and American companies. And I don't think 516 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 7: we should have to put up with that. And I 517 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 7: think that the Europeans need to make a choice whether 518 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 7: they prefer being under the American security umbrella or antagonizing 519 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 7: American companies, because we're not going to put up with both. 520 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, so how does this impact American companies? Then 521 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 4: so all of the other social media sites, whether that 522 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: be Meta Google, they have complied. Is that right, I mean, 523 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: and what are the implications for our free speech if 524 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: that is true? 525 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 7: Well, there's some sites that haven't that are kind of 526 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 7: only based in the United States, but that hasn't stopped 527 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 7: European regulators from going after them. For example, I believe 528 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 7: it's four Chan was sent letters by Offcom, the UK's 529 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 7: independent regulator, trying to tell them that they needed to 530 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 7: start censoring speech, but that obviously would be in violation 531 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 7: of their First Amendment rights under the Constitution. So they're 532 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 7: telling the UK to go pound sand. But it does 533 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 7: create this fundamental problem and in balance, where there's no 534 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 7: cost to these European countries going after the United States, 535 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 7: and that's I think that and we have to spend 536 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 7: a lot of money defending ourselves. So I think there's 537 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 7: a good lawyer by the name of Preston Burne who's 538 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 7: proposed something called the Granted Act that's already been taken 539 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 7: up in the state of Wyoming, and we're hearing from 540 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 7: the Department of State that they're looking at a federal 541 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 7: Grantite Act. And the idea is that anytime a European 542 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 7: sovereignty makes a threat against an American company that would 543 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 7: threaten them if they don't censor their speech, they immediately 544 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 7: have a private right of action here in the United 545 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 7: States to sue that sovereignty or that company for three 546 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 7: times the amount of the threat, which I think is 547 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 7: the right way to go. I think the European Union 548 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 7: is vastly overplaying its hand legally here. They are far 549 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 7: more dependent on access to the United States markets. They're 550 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 7: far more dependent on the United States security cooperation than 551 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 7: we are on them, and so we shouldn't and I 552 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 7: don't think we will put up with their continued threats 553 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 7: to our free speech. 554 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just want to drive home how despicable this is. 555 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 6: A lot of people don't realize how Europe works. So, 556 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 6: for example, this fine came from the European Commission. What's 557 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 6: the European Commission, Well, the European Union, even though they obvious, 558 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 6: they obviously will scream all the time about democracy, but 559 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 6: it's super fake. You can't in America, we can elect 560 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 6: President Trump through an actual direct election. We are able 561 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 6: to elect our Congress. In the European Union, they have 562 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 6: the European Commission. And the way you get on the 563 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 6: European Commission is governments appoint members of it. They're the 564 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 6: only ones who can come up with any regulations, any 565 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 6: proposed laws from the European Union. No one in Europe 566 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 6: actually gets to vote on these directly. They just have 567 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 6: the European Parliament and it gets an up or down 568 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 6: vote on stuff that comes from the European Commission. And 569 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 6: the other thing that's going on is Europe is an 570 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 6: economic sharp decline. They've decided it's immoral to make electric city, 571 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 6: it's immoral to build houses, it's immoral to really develop 572 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 6: any technology whatsoever, or to favor entrepreneurship. And so you 573 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 6: can look this up. I encourage everyone to google this phrase. 574 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 6: Regulatory superpower. This is what Europe is reduced to. Well, 575 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 6: we have eight hundred million people, so let's become a 576 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 6: quote regulatory superpower where we just pass laws and we 577 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 6: boss people around and in this case literally shake them 578 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 6: down for money. 579 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 5: And that's what Europe is reduced to because. 580 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 6: They aren't innovative, they aren't dynamic. They're just rich because 581 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 6: of things that their ancestors did decades or hundreds of 582 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 6: years ago. And that's what we're stuck having to deal 583 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 6: with here. They're dependent on us for security, they're dependent 584 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 6: on us for innovation, and they think they can boss 585 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 6: around what we say on the Internet. 586 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly right. 587 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, so diving into this DSA though, 588 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: what are the what are the dynamics, what are the 589 00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 4: rules of it? 590 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: What are the stipulations? 591 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 7: Even it seems a lot like Calvin Ball honestly, like 592 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 7: it's like I think it, you know, probably has some 593 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 7: generic prohibition on deceptive trade practices, the kind of thing 594 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 7: we have here, But then it gives the EU this 595 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 7: incredible scope to interpret what it constitutes accepted trade practice. 596 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 7: That doesn't look like there is a court involved in 597 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 7: making this decision or attemps any real due process or litigation. 598 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 7: It's just the European Commission decided that Twitter's verified process 599 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 7: was unlawful and that's the end of that. And moreover, 600 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 7: the way they're doing it, I mean, they're just completely 601 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 7: flagrantly in violation of American speech sarist prudence here. Sorry, 602 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 7: Like Elon Musk gets to determine how X verifies its 603 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 7: users as long as he's not lying about it, the 604 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 7: EU doesn't get to complain. You know, if the U 605 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 7: decides they want to just shut X out of its 606 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 7: market entirely, fine, that's great. Like it'll at least like 607 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 7: make it clear where we stand here, you know, like, oh, 608 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 7: you guys are actually antagonistic adversarial nations like China instead 609 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 7: of you know, supposedly friendly allied nations in a you know, 610 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 7: fellow inheritor of Western civilization. Okay, very well, we can 611 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 7: proceed on that basis. You know, the difference is China 612 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 7: has a real military and you don't. 613 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's interesting. And this was near and dear 614 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: to Charlie's heart. By the way, this is one of 615 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 4: the themes of the last year, especially when he visited 616 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: the UK with Blake and some of the other team. 617 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: But it was it was an acknowledgment that the fundamental 618 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: relationship of our transatlantic allies, the inheritors, as you said, 619 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: of Western civilization, are finding themselves increasingly out of alignment 620 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: about basic things like free speech. You've heard jd Vance 621 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 4: talk about this, Senator Mark, Senator goodness, gracious State Department 622 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: is now Marco Rubio is going after them as well 623 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: and saying there's a misalignment here and how do we 624 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: get that alignment back into a place where we can 625 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: all say, hey, you know, we can actually shake hands 626 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 4: and we're runing in the same direction here. So Secretary 627 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 4: of State Rubio has a role to play here is 628 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: what are the levers that we can now push back 629 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: against our friends across the Atlantic. 630 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 7: Right, So, as I mentioned, the granted actor is a 631 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 7: good lever. We want to give individuals who are threatened 632 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 7: by European censors a private right of action here and 633 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 7: eliminate European sovereign immunity for lawsuits here in the United States. 634 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 7: So if one of these European actors decides that they 635 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 7: want to go after an American citizen, we can say, 636 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 7: you're both that you don't have any sovereign immunity and 637 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 7: you're personally liable, so we can go after any of 638 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 7: your assets in the United States. So don't you dare. 639 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 7: That's so that's step one. That's sort of a protective measure. 640 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 7: I think step two is actually a broader recognition that 641 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 7: the European Union and its continued existence is actually anithetical 642 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 7: to American interests. The idea behind the European Union is 643 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 7: to create increased bargaining leverage by European countries against the 644 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 7: United States. And you know, again if they were you know, 645 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 7: if they want to be adversarial to the United States, fine, 646 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 7: but then they should have to do without our military protection. 647 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 7: And so you know, we should see, you know, we 648 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 7: know that the EU isn't just hostile to America, it's 649 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 7: also hostile to conserve of countries within the European Union, 650 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 7: the way they're hostile to Hungary, hostile to poll Land, 651 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 7: hostile to Italy, making demands of them to accept more migrants. 652 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 7: I think American policy and diplomatic policy should be to 653 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 7: foster and lift up those countries that are pushing back 654 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 7: against the European Union, to help them leave if they 655 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 7: want to leave, you know, to provide monetary incentives for 656 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 7: them to leave, and to make side deals of the 657 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 7: United States we should have, you know, as long until 658 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 7: the EU gets its act right, it makes clear that 659 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 7: it wants to be America's friend as opposed to America's 660 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 7: antagonist economically, then we should go ahead and be antagonistic 661 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 7: towards them, and maybe bring Hungary and Poland and Italy 662 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 7: and the Czech Republic into some side alliance and allow 663 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 7: them to leave the EU. 664 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 4: Wow, Blake, your reaction to that idea is a creative 665 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: solution here. 666 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I am basically happy with anything that restores 667 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 6: real European countries that reflect real European peoples as opposed 668 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: to this European Union bloated monstrosity, which it really I 669 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 6: know Charlie hated the word democracy, but I'm going to 670 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 6: apply it to Europe here. The entire point of the 671 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 6: European Union is to make glowbalist neoliberalism totally immune from 672 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 6: actual democratic pressures. It's entirely designed to make it so 673 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 6: what the globalist agenda is is not able to be 674 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 6: stopped by anyone because it's too separated, it's too immune 675 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: from immediate voter pressure, and it's too complex for most 676 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 6: people to understand. And the time has come for us 677 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 6: to shadow that apart. That is the European deep state. 678 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 6: The European deep state is not the bureaucracy of France 679 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 6: or Germany individually. 680 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 5: It's this transnational. 681 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 6: Project that elites have built, and the United States has 682 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 6: a direct role to play in undercutting that and saying 683 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 6: people should have a direct influence over what their countries. 684 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 4: Are like yeah, well said, and I did promise this 685 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: clips I'm gonna sneak it in real quick one oh four. 686 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 4: This is President Trump thanking Charlie Kirk. 687 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: Young people are respecting this again too. I won the 688 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: young voter. The Republicans never win the young vote. I 689 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: want it easily, and I want to thank Charlie and 690 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: I want to thank TikTok. And there are a lot 691 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: of reasons for it. 692 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 8: But there's never been a Republican who won the young 693 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 8: and I won the very young vote, so that's a 694 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 8: good sign. 695 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: I just thought it was nice that President Trump continues 696 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: to give Charlie shoutouts. It was beautiful to see, especially 697 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: from our vantage point connection, open dialogue. These are the 698 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 4: things that build communities. Charlie Kirk and TikTok share in 699 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 4: that knowledge. That's why TikTok has built a space where 700 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: that kind of listening actually happens. People don't just post, 701 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: they respond. They build on each other's ideas. You'll see 702 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 4: a teacher simplifying a tough lesson so it finally clicks, 703 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: or gardener sharing a trick that saved their crop. But 704 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: what matters most is in the video, it's what comes 705 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 4: next someone asking a question, someone else answering with a 706 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: story of their own, and suddenly people who've never met 707 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: become a community built on curiosity. When people listen and 708 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: understand and a shift happens, walls come down, ideas travel further, 709 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: and connection, real connection takes their place. That's what listening does. 710 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 4: It reminds us that we're not as different as we 711 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 4: may think. And that's what makes TikTok so powerful. It's 712 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 4: a place where every post can turn into a conversation, 713 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 4: and every conversation can make a difference. 714 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: Portions of our program are sponsored in part by TikTok. 715 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 4: Will tell us about the Article three project, how people 716 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 4: can follow you get involved with what you're doing. 717 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, so, the Article three project is a political advocacy project. 718 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 7: We do a lot of things to try and pressure 719 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 7: Congress to essentially do the push for the Trump agenda, 720 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 7: getting cabinet nomdies confirmed, judges confirmed, but particularly focused on 721 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 7: issues that touch in the judiciary. Article three. In the 722 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 7: namesake and the name would tell you that you can 723 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 7: find our various projects on a three P action dot com, 724 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 7: which will give you a way to directly contact your 725 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 7: individual senator representative with just a few cli. We find 726 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 7: that to be a very very effective way to make 727 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 7: your voice heard. We know that it worked Wanders, especially 728 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 7: during the Heggs confirmation when it looked like his confirmation 729 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 7: might have been on ice. But the voice of what 730 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 7: is the new activists on the right and people who 731 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 7: are willing to just send an email or two got 732 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 7: their attention. A three P action, a threep action dot 733 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 7: com and so and yeah. That allows your your viewers 734 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 7: to immediately click and send a message directly to their 735 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 7: senator or their representative with thirty seconds or a minute 736 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 7: max on an issue that is pressing. 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Tell 744 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: Congress to impeach DC Obama, Judge Jeb Bosberg, tell Colorado 745 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: Governor Jared Polis to commute Tina Peters Peter sentence, Tell 746 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 4: Congress to ship strip ilhan Omar of her committee assignments. 747 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 4: You just press take action. You can get on board 748 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 4: with all those projects. Okay, we got three minutes left here. Well, 749 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 4: we talked about birthright citizenship. Frame up. What's going to 750 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 4: happen if you have to get into the legal weeds, 751 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 4: We get it, and why it's important. 752 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,959 Speaker 7: Well, we're at the Supreme Court already, which is good, 753 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 7: and they took curciarrea before judgment on one of these cases, 754 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 7: which they don't normally do, meaning the Supreme Court thinks 755 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 7: it's really important. Basically, progresses are trying to pretend that 756 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 7: there's no debate here at all, that this is a 757 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 7: really simple question about the idea that if you're born 758 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 7: in the United States, you're a citizen unless you're like 759 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 7: the child of diplomats or the child of an invading army. 760 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 7: But it's actually a little more complicated than that, because 761 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 7: the key the decision the case will turn on the 762 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 7: meaning of the phrase subject to the jurisdiction of the idea, 763 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 7: being that you're not just a citizens you're born here. 764 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 7: You need to be subject to the jurisdiction of the 765 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 7: United States, and there's a lot of really good authority 766 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 7: that jurisdiction requires allegiance, and it requires the permission of 767 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 7: the sovereign to be here. So if you're the child 768 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 7: of a lawful, permanent resident, then sure you get you 769 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 7: get citizenship. But if you're the child of temporary visitors 770 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 7: or legal aliens, you aren't and you shouldn't because the 771 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 7: policy consequences of that are enormous and absurd. There's no 772 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 7: way that any rational country would want have a policy 773 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 7: like that that induces illegal immigration. And I think it's 774 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 7: it's really you know, as much as the Left wants 775 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 7: to pretend that this is straightforward as anything, but and 776 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 7: I think, honestly, I think we're going to win this one. 777 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 7: I think the Supreme Court is going to come down 778 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 7: on the side of saying that, you know, you're not 779 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 7: entitled the citizenship it's a child of illegal aliens. 780 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 4: Well, you are the first person I think that I've 781 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 4: we've had on this show that has sounded a vote 782 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 4: of confidence. Blake is not so sure, or maybe you've 783 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 4: changed your opinion, Blake. 784 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. 785 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 6: I I just I want to I want to see 786 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 6: it all play out. I maybe I should be from 787 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 6: Missouri again, you know the show me state. 788 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Blake I want to see it succeed to 789 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 4: be Yeah, I was gonna say, to be very clear, 790 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 4: Blake is very much of the same mind. 791 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: I just think Blake is. 792 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: It is one of those weird issues where if you 793 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 4: go back to the framing of it and the drafting 794 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 4: of the amendment, it was clearly written for slaves, It 795 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 4: was clearly written for the children of slaves. 796 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 2: It was clearly debated. 797 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 4: And they even said when you look at the debate notes, 798 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 4: in the notes from the Senate that they were saying, 799 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 4: of course this. 800 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: Wouldn't apply to foreigners and all this stuff. 801 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 6: I will say, I will say I've been very impressed 802 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 6: with the Trump administrations laying out of the history of 803 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 6: it and really getting into what its origins are. 804 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 5: Their argument is very impressive. 805 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 6: I just worry in pragmatic terms, I just don't know 806 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 6: if this is Supreme Court, do we have five votes 807 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 6: that would take the plunge on that or are we 808 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 6: going to have that standard thing where they say, well, 809 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 6: people are too dependent on how it's been interpreted for 810 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 6: a long time. We don't like the implications of actually 811 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 6: going back to what the law was clearly intended to be. 812 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 6: So we're gonna woss out on it, and we've seen 813 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 6: even these quite conservative leaning courts make that decision time 814 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 6: and time again. So I'd be very happy if they 815 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 6: change course. 816 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: But show me. 817 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 5: I've got to see it happen. 818 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Will Chamberlain Article three Projects, Senior Counsel, Thank you 819 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 4: so much for joining us. 820 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 2: Well, it's great to see you again, my friend. 821 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, good to be with you. 822 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you 823 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 8: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com