1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the city that Never sleeps. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Salem. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Medium is a man also not sleeping. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: Mccallor, and that guy would like a word with you. 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Many of you know him from his looks for damas. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 3: Of course, that Kevin Show is going to be great. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 4: The only thing that could be greater, of course, would 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 4: be that Donald Show, but we don't have that. 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: So we have That Kevin. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 5: Show featuring the music of Dick Honey and the Dream in. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: Color Orchestra, straight. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 5: Ahead, everything you need to know about the top headlines 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 5: of the day, and a perspective that will give you 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 5: some eternity to it, plus practical tips for family life, 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 5: spiritual life, and good old regular life. It's Kevin McCullough 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 5: Monday through. 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: Friday on That Kevin Show. 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 5: And now from the Connors in Sullivan Broadcast Studios. A 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 5: man who is not what he wants to be, that 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 5: is way grateful, that is not who he used to be. 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: Here all right, welcome in That Kevin Show. Kevin mccaullaugh, 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Glad to have you with us. It is a very 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: interesting time and day that we live in. These days, 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you fully grasp how full of 25 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: irony some things are, but it is not lost on me. 26 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: And we will spend some time over the next couple 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: of hours delving into a few of these little aspects. 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: I am excited because we have a lot to get 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: to and we've got some of the best minds on 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: the biggest story of the year so far that we're 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: going to have with us today, including a retired rear 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 1: admiral from the Navy and retired four star general from 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: the Army that are both going to weigh in on 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: the Maduro seizure and where we are with that and 35 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: what it means, but also not just what it means 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: to our direct relationship with Venezuela and the drugs and 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: all the stuff that is happening there, but even beyond that, 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: what it means to relationships in other parts of the world. 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: And we're going to focus on our hemisphere, the Western hemisphere, 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: with Admiral Peter Brown, who has made this his focus 41 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: since retiring from the Armed Services serving at America First 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Policy Institute, focusing on the Western Hemisphere and what it 43 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: means because there are some continued troubled spots in our backyard. 44 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: We have some other bad guys that are still creating 45 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: trouble here at home on our side of the ocean, 46 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: and we need to be aware of what they are doing, 47 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: and they need to be aware. There's a new there 48 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: is a new code of conduct expected from people that 49 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: are wanting to be good members of the international community 50 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: as it pertains to them. So we will get into 51 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: that and more with Admiral Peter Brown. But also coming 52 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: up later in this first hour, General Jack Keen is 53 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: going to be with us, and he is one of 54 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: the if not the top military mind and I think 55 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: in the country. But he you see him on Fox News, 56 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: and he will join us with some Really I'm hoping 57 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: deeper insight onto what the Venezuela equation means in terms 58 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: of our situations with Iraq, Russia, China, North Korea, because 59 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: they were all setting up shop in Venezuela and I'm 60 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: not sure that anything has changed necessarily yet. So well, 61 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: we'll get into that and more with General Jack Keen 62 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: as we go along. I'm anticipating friends, I know there 63 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: are a lot of you that live in other parts 64 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: of the country, and I am not trying to make 65 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: the new York mayor the focus of everything on this show. 66 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Since I live in the New York area, I am, yes, 67 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: exponentially impacted by his silliness compared to those of you 68 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: that live in Nebraska or in Minneapolis. But what is 69 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: going on in two places in the country right now, 70 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: specifically in Minneapolis in the Somali community, and the governor 71 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: Waltz having to drop out of the race because he 72 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: is so compromised by all of the corruption that he 73 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: has overseen and probably benefited from, that he can't even 74 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: run for governor again. That up against the clown show 75 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: that is unfolding in New York City. We have some 76 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: we have some very real world questions that need to 77 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: be asked, and I feel like, from a certain standpoint, 78 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: need to be understood in light of what is excellent. 79 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: We are going to continue to talk about what an 80 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: elevated life, what an elevated mind, what an elevated person 81 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: looks like, feels like, thinks like, operates like as we 82 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: go along this year. And on the issue of Marxism 83 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: versus free market, Marxism versus Christianity, Marxism versus American ideals, 84 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: the two are not compatible on any level. Marxism is 85 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: not compatible with any of those things. And yet we 86 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: now have avowed Marxists running big chunks of the Somali 87 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota democratic region. There we've got a democratic Marxist that 88 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: is the mayor of New York City, and in three 89 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: days in office or four days in office, five days now, 90 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: he has already gone to the level of pretty much 91 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: putting his imprint of Marxism on the government of this 92 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: one city. And this Venezuela capture of Maduro is one 93 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: of these things that's kind of telling. In fact, the 94 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: New York City mayor had to admit that he lied today. 95 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: He admitted he has no federal security clearance, and this 96 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: was a day after he claimed he had just been 97 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: briefed about the US capture of the Venezuelan president, Nicholas Maduro. 98 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Mom Donnie was asked directly about security clearance during a 99 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: Monday press briefing, ultimately saying that he had not received 100 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: it yet. The freshly inaugurated mayor had been the butt 101 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: of viral jokes on social media from users suggesting he 102 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: had inflated his access to information about the strike in 103 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: his initial statement, and so a reporter asked, you don't 104 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: have federal security clearance yet. Has anyone from a federal 105 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: agency reached out to you or members of your team 106 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: to begin the vetting to get federal security clearance? That briefing, yes, 107 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: was conducted by my team, Mamdanni responded, And the question 108 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: of federal security clearance is one that's on and on. 109 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: Let me just also point out that there is some 110 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: grave speculation in the higher up thinking of our government 111 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: that maybe Zoron Mamdani isn't a good candidate for national 112 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: security clearance. And what I mean by that is very 113 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: simply that there is a possibility that his loyalties to 114 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: Marxism and Islam and other forces outweigh his loyalty to 115 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: the United States. And when we're considering who we give 116 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: federal security clearances to, only one thing should be considered, 117 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: and that is where is your loyalty? And if you 118 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: have a higher loyalty to a form of Islam that 119 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: practices to kia and says take over the culture once 120 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: you gain power, you're not a good candidate for security clearance. 121 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: If you are adherent to Marxism, which works against the Constitution, 122 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: which works against the freedom of religion, which works against 123 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: freedom of speech. You should not be granted federal security 124 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: clearance simply because you hold an office. It just shouldn't 125 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: work that way. So what we're seeing and what we're 126 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: kind of facing here with Mom Dannie is he lied 127 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: about being briefed. He doesn't have federal security clearance, and 128 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: he probably won't get it and probably shouldn't get it, 129 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: which would be astounding because all of the mayors before 130 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: him since nine to eleven have had national security clearances, 131 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: but they also were victims and saw America as the 132 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: victims in the nine to eleven attacks, something that Zoron 133 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Mamdani does not agree with. Zoron Mamdani thinks America got 134 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: what was coming to him on nine to eleven, and 135 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: he believes that from the river to the sea we 136 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: should get rid of Jews, and he believes that the 137 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: Intifada should be globalized. When you have that kind of 138 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: person in his position, I think it's a foolish thing 139 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: to give such a man any security clearance, much less 140 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: sensitive ones. Kevin McCullough very glad to have you with us. 141 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: It is that Kevin, show everything you needed that kevinshow 142 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: dot com. When we come back, we'll ask the big question, 143 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: how do we live? 144 00:09:49,280 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 6: Don't go anywhere. 145 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 7: Here. 146 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: He is from New York. 147 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, all right, welcome back. It is that Kevin 148 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: show that kevinshow dot com. From the podcast, the videos, 149 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: the daily column, et cetera. We always want you to 150 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: have access to it. And we have reached that point 151 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: in the show again where we ask this question every day, 152 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: how do we live? How as people that are lovers 153 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: of God and people that are wanting to be on 154 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: mission for him, we are planted in a world that 155 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to appreciate God, seems to have many doubts 156 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: about his word. In fact, I contend that if the 157 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: God of the Bible wasn't the God of the Bible, 158 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: if he was just whoever people wanted to make him 159 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: out to be and stick him in his pocket and 160 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: take him with him whenever they needed and pull him 161 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: out and say, okay, God's involved here, they would have 162 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: much less issue. It's the God that is attached to 163 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: scripture that is the problem. And if you and I 164 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: are people that want to live according to those scriptures 165 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: or try to follow his leading for us, sometimes we're 166 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: looked at with great suspicion. So how do we live 167 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: in the midst of that, staying on mission, staying winsome, 168 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: and staying plugged into the culture to have an impact 169 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: on it. This is what we started asking last February, 170 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: And as we begin twenty twenty six, we are welcoming 171 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: back Ryan batesl this first week of the new year. 172 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: And Ryan, we started yesterday looking at Luke chapter five, 173 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: a very compelling story that I think a lot of 174 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: people are familiar with. But it's the story of the 175 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: lame man who was lowered through the roof because he 176 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: wanted to get to Jesus so desperately, and he had 177 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: four friends that helped him do that. And you're drawing 178 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: some observations, and you're going in depth on this story 179 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: because at emergence in New Jersey you're going to be 180 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: studying this for the next couple of weeks, in addition 181 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: to the sermon that you just taught on. So I 182 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: want people to be aware of that if they would 183 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: like to continue this story. But we left yesterday with 184 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: them having arrived and us understanding that this was something 185 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: that Jesus recognized in them as something that was very good. 186 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: In fact, he forgave their sins, He forgave the lame 187 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: man's sin in front of the Pharisees. Pick up where 188 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: we left off yesterday. 189 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great to be with you, Kevin, always is. 190 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 8: You know. 191 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 7: It's a wild text. 192 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: And so spent a little time talking about do we 193 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: have the friends who would get us to Jesus. I 194 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: think this gets at the question of are we the 195 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: type of friends that bring people to Jesus? And really, 196 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: when I think about being that type of friend, there's 197 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: three big things that I got to ask myself if 198 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 4: I want to be the type of friend, Like, just 199 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 4: imagine bringing someone to Jesus and Jesus saying to that guy, hey, 200 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: your sins are forgiven. Being part of that, there's no 201 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: better thing to be part of. But I think what 202 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: they did is interesting. 203 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 8: You know. 204 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: Ecclesiastes says it's good to have two or three people 205 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: so that if one falls, someone's there to pick them up. 206 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 7: And for me, this gets out the issue. Am I 207 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 7: the friend. 208 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 4: That when things fall apart from my friend, I go in, 209 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: I get proactive, And I think the temptation a lot 210 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: of times is in those moments to be reactive to 211 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: think things like, well, you know, they'll reach out to 212 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 4: me when they're ready. 213 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 7: They'll reach out to me when they need a call. 214 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 7: I'm available. I don't want to overwhelm them all that stuff. 215 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 7: But here's the thing. 216 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: They can tell you they're okay and they don't need you. 217 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: But I'm a fan of letting them say that and 218 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: just deciding I'm a friend that goes in and and 219 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: maybe the conversation just begins like that, I'm a friend 220 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: that goes in. And as part of that, if they say, hey, 221 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: I don't need you right now, well pray Scott. It's 222 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: not about you. You don't need to you're feeling shirt. 223 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: But you know, at the end of the day, Jesus 224 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: went in for me. He didn't wait, he wasn't reactive, 225 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 4: he was proactive. And so if I want to be 226 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 4: like Jesus, when I see when I have a friend 227 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: who falls is knocked on the mat, I'm a friend 228 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: who goes in. 229 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 7: I think that's really the first thing that comes out 230 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 7: of us. 231 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: And we're talking about this story on kind of a 232 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: couple of different metaphorical levels. I feel like, at least 233 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: in the language that you're using, because getting knocked on 234 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: our mat, as we discussed yesterday, is something that happens 235 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: to us. And it can happen physically. We can go 236 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: down and be in physical need of help, you know, 237 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: get sickness, disease, et cetera, et cetera. But so often 238 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: I think that life, whether we have struggles with physical 239 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: illness or disabilities or anything like that, all of us 240 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: regularly kind of get the gut, punch the mat, dropping 241 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: the getting our legs kicked out from underneath. This on 242 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: a spiritual level, and sometimes ryan it self inflicted. So 243 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: I kick my own knees out from underneath me. And 244 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, but I end up 245 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: doing it. 246 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 7: That's the worst, right, that's the worst one. You're like, oh, 247 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 7: I put myself on the mat. 248 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: But a friend in that moment, it might, it might 249 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: mention it, but he's not going to do And I 250 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: told you so. He's going to love you enough to 251 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: tell you the truth. Yeah, but also but also to 252 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: be there, you know. 253 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: Well, And that's where leaning in because and this is hard. 254 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: If people have had someone in their life that they 255 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: have struggled to understand or cope with. Maybe maybe you 256 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: have a relative who's walked away from God. There is 257 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: someone in my life that fits that bill. There's there's 258 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: someone who may know the truth and temporarily reject it. 259 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Does the leaning in happen in the midst of their 260 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: continued sin? And if so, how do you lean in 261 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: with integrity? How do you say, I'm afraid this is 262 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: going to put you on your matt How do you 263 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: how do you how do you know, with discernment and 264 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: wisdom you know what the right thing to do is 265 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: in that situation? Or is that not really relevant to 266 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: the friendship discussion. 267 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 7: No, I think it's a great question. 268 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: I think I think there's a couple angles and scriptures 269 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 4: that popped in my head when you were saying it. 270 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: And this wouldn't be a completely prey through a thought 271 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: out answer, But I think there's clear warning in the 272 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: Bible to warn a divisive person once and after that 273 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: have nothing to do with them now a relative. I 274 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: don't think we'd want to do that unless they were 275 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: extremely divisive. But I almost think of that situation like 276 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: a church discipline situation, where you know they they're walking 277 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 4: away from the Lord and I'm going to now treat 278 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: them as an unbeliever. Well, how do I treat unbeliever. 279 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 4: I want to share the gospel with them. I want 280 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: to love them. I want to get around them in 281 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: the opportunities I have. I want to be faithful to 282 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: share the message that they really need, because at this 283 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: point I don't really it's hard for me to be 284 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 4: confident that they've really surrendered their lives to Christ when 285 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: they they're going to live in rebellion. 286 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 7: And that's heartbreaking, especially in a family. 287 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 8: You know. 288 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: But Yeah, I think the advice there is I'm going 289 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: to love this person, treat them as an unbeliever and 290 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: and try to witness to them and try to show 291 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: them the love of Christ. 292 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: Back to the back to the actual illustration that you 293 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: were doing. I can hear someone say, Ryan, it's hard. 294 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: I'm I'm rejection is something that I struggle with. And 295 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: if I if I lean in and they reject me, 296 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: then I feel like I've failed at my spiritual mission. 297 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: Not necessarily in the in the relational world, but I've 298 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: I've failed in what I felt like God wanted me 299 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: to do. 300 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I get that, right, because we all have 301 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 7: our flash. 302 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 4: What what I want to train myself in these moments 303 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: is this moment is not about me. Right, this moment 304 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: is about them, and I'm going to be available to 305 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: them with the access they're willing to give to me. 306 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 4: But they're going to know I'm the friend who's available. 307 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 4: They might not need it, they might not want it, 308 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: but I feel like Jesus became available to me proactively, 309 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: and so I'm going to be proactive and I'm going 310 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 4: to have the peace of. 311 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 7: Knowing decide beforehand. Right, two things. 312 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to have the proactive decision beforehand, and then 313 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: the second thing I'm going to decide beforehand. 314 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 7: This this isn't about me. 315 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: People grieve differently, People go through stuff differently. 316 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 7: Some need to get alone, some need a community. All 317 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 7: that's wonderful and how God. 318 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: Made us and so I can have the piece of 319 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: knowing in that moment. They're not rejecting me, it's how 320 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: they have to walk through this. I always think people 321 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: who are really struggling, let them be the conductor of 322 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: the orchestra. And you know they're going to pick who 323 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: plays the notes, They're going to pick who does some things, 324 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: when to start, one to end. 325 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 7: I just want to be there with the truth of 326 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 7: the gospel. 327 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: What does leaning in look like? Does it mean I 328 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: need to have a spiritual answer for their question. Does 329 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: it mean I need to cook him? You know, three 330 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: weeks worth of food? What? What? What is leaning in? 331 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: And how do how do I know that I'm doing it? 332 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 8: Well? 333 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think that gets into point too a bit. 334 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 7: But I would say, here's the here's the first thing. 335 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 8: I would say. 336 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 4: Job's friends are great until they talk, you know, and 337 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 4: what do they do? 338 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 7: They show up and they just. 339 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: Join him as he grieves, and they're doing awesome until 340 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 4: they start saying, well, here's why, and here's the answer, 341 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: and they're completely wrong. And get rid of the expectation 342 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: that you're going to give the magic answer that fixes people. 343 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 4: This isn't television, you know, it's not. It's not the 344 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 4: movie Goodwill Hunting where in one to break through counseling session, 345 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 4: he's instantly better. That's usually not how counseling or friendship 346 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 4: or life works. 347 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 7: So I think those things are where I start. 348 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: But in some instances, just just helping, you know, with 349 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: with simple things can make a big difference. 350 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and and maybe we'll talk about this a little tomorrow, 351 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: but I think you know point too is, Hey, I'm 352 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: gonna when I go in, I'm going to be a 353 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: mat carrier. I'm going to carry some of the load, 354 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: right relation says, you know, it's fulfills the law of 355 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: Christ when you carry one another's burdens. And so these 356 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: guys don't carry the whole burden. They got a corner 357 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: of this mat. 358 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: That's a great place actually for us to stop today, 359 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: because tomorrow we will get into that in much greater detail. 360 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: Ryan batesl Emergence dot Church if you want more info. Ryan, 361 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: thank you for helping us think through how we live today. 362 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 7: Thanks Kevin, you got it. 363 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: Kevin mccallach coming right back. 364 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 8: Number. 365 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: Let's stick around for. 366 00:20:49,640 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 9: More bat Kevin next here he is from New York. 367 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 9: That Kevin Kevin McCullough. 368 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: That Kevin show, that kevinshow dot com from Times Square. 369 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: Glad you're with us, and so grateful to welcome back 370 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: Linda Pirillo, who's gonna join us regularly. On Tuesdays, we 371 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: do another little broadcast out of New York called Travel Tuesday, 372 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: and we have a lot of fun with it. But 373 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: Linda and I also just really good friends and we 374 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: like chatting about everything, including mister Maduro and other stuff. 375 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: But Linda, I gotta admit, and I said this on 376 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: this show yesterday, this is a really hard time of 377 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: year for me. While I was literally on the air, 378 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: I got notified from the Lovely Bride that all of 379 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: the Christmas decorations were coming down, and I was like, 380 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: my heart, oh, I'm not ready for that yet. 381 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 8: Yeah. 382 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: And you know part of the reason why was my 383 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: Christmas season was so packed. It was like so busy. 384 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: We did so many things. We went to the White House, 385 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: we went to London, we did all these things in 386 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: this like a little short period of time. But I 387 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: go through a genuine sadness when the holidays are over. 388 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 7: You know. 389 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 10: The post holiday blues are psychological phenomenon, and it's one 390 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 10: of those moments I always feel like we really instead 391 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 10: of being caught up. Okay, let's make it like a 392 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 10: commercial and the hustle and bustle of the holidays and 393 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 10: appreciating the downtime right the no driving to school, because 394 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 10: that for me. 395 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Those are the big that's a gift in and of itself. 396 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 10: Me hanging out on the couch a little longer with 397 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 10: a cup of coffee, you know, and try not to 398 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 10: take it for granted. When we get that time because 399 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 10: it's like two weeks right, enjoy it because I go 400 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 10: into the holiday blues too, and my husband's like, it's 401 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 10: time to take the Christmas decoration. I'm like, no, today 402 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 10: is the Epiphany. Today's little Christmas. La Befana comes, she 403 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 10: leaves little gifts for the children, and he's like, man, 404 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 10: you just want to push this, don't you. I'm like, 405 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 10: I don't want to take the stuff down and bring 406 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 10: it back to the base. 407 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: And look, I know that I'm the I'm the work mule, 408 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: so it's it's my job to carry it all out 409 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: when you know she's got it down, and I'm okay 410 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: with that. I'm okay with bringing it in. For the 411 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: thing for me is like, I don't know, there's something 412 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: different about the house when the trees up and the 413 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: and the decorations are up, the lights are on in 414 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. You know, it's like there's something special, and 415 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: it's like it's that whole thing about Advent. We're waiting, 416 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: we're waiting, we're waiting, and then boom, it's over. 417 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 10: And it's like, so, you know, you got to learn 418 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 10: to do things in January. 419 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: So how do you how do you mitigate it. 420 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 10: I pray for snowstorms. 421 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, we take a 422 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: road trip, we do something with the kids. 423 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 10: I pray for blizzards that keep us hunkered down and 424 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 10: me on the couch, because I would live to sit 425 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 10: on my couch. But that's not who I am. 426 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm not at all. You're the least yeah, police, but. 427 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 10: It's nice to treat yourself sometimes. 428 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: All right, So let me ask this this real simple question. 429 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: The Perilla family, of which you are a proud member of. 430 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: You're a principle of Perillo Tours, the famous tour company 431 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: in the world. You've been to Italy. I don't know 432 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: six thousand times in the course of your few years. 433 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: This on this world. For people that have never been, 434 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: what would you say about this year would be something 435 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: to consider if they were thinking about, Hey, bucket list, 436 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: maybe Rome, maybe a Malfi coast. But what's one thing, 437 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: What's one thing about this this idea that you would 438 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: say you got to latch onto it this year to do? Like, 439 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: what what is one special takeaway for you from Rome 440 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: or from the a Malfi region. 441 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 10: Listen, this is in a sense, so try life is 442 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 10: short don't put it off. 443 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 7: Go. 444 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 10: Rome is one of my favorite cities in the whole 445 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 10: entire universe. I love the Amalfi region because I love it. 446 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 10: I love Sorrento, I love Copery, I love everything about that. 447 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 10: And Italy's gorgeous. It's gorgeous on its own. I think 448 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 10: you could throw every region at me and I would 449 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 10: say to you, yeah, love that about it, love that 450 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 10: about it. But to say so in Amata, which means 451 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 10: I am in love, is Rome, is Amalfi, is Naples. 452 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 9: Love. 453 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 10: Those are my favorites. And I would throw Venice in 454 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 10: there too, Yeah. 455 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: But which is a totally different experience and totally on 456 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: the other end of the country it is. It's one 457 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: of the most ancient cities in Europe, and it's the 458 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: birthplace of like republic government, like representative government. They had 459 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: a Senate before anybody else did. 460 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 10: So let me let me tell you that, because you're 461 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 10: gonna laugh at this. So I am doing very proudly. 462 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 10: I'm doing a tour for one of our finest Okay, 463 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 10: one of our NYPD officers. We've been going back and forth. 464 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 10: He says, I said, so, which tours do you want? 465 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 10: I sent him on the line. He comes back and 466 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 10: he goes, well, we want to do the thinking of 467 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 10: the twelve day Continental or the nine day Sicily. I said, 468 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 10: wait a minute, that's like deciding between you want to 469 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 10: get your hair colored blonde or you want to get 470 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 10: your hair colored black. Like these are two different, completely 471 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 10: different things. I said, why, Sicily, you ready? And they've 472 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 10: never been to Italy because my wife is in love 473 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 10: with the Godfather. I said, no, no, we're not doing that. 474 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: You're not doing movie Italy, You're doing real Italy. 475 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 10: I'm like, no, no, no, we're not doing the Godfather 476 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 10: Perillo trip. You're going to go on the twelve day 477 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 10: Continental or I won't book this for you. And that 478 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 10: was the end of the conversation. 479 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is an opportunity for people to go with us, 480 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: but and all of that info has found at Italy 481 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six dot info Italy twenty twenty six dot 482 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: info only thirty two seats. By the way, on this trip, 483 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: it is not a large trip. This is going to 484 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: be a very intimate thing and with Linda on the trip, 485 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: we're going to get behind the scenes knowledge of all 486 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the places that were going. But we've also got really 487 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: really good tour guides lined up, including some of the 488 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: people that I experienced stuff with last year when I 489 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: took my family on this identical trip so Italy twenty 490 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: twenty six dot info if you want more info on that, 491 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: and real quickly, we've only got like a minute left. 492 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: Just give a quick plug for your book that's out 493 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: because I don't think on this show we've discussed it. 494 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: But just a second, just a few seconds worth. 495 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 10: Your payment method has been declined. 496 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: Is the name of the book, Yes, it is, And it's. 497 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 10: A story of my life, and it's a very interesting story. 498 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 10: And it's a compilation of memoirs really from the last 499 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 10: my God, since I had babies. 500 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: That's where I really it's and it is an interesting 501 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: and compelling at times funny, at times heart wrenching. But 502 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: it is a great read. Friends, check that out, Linda. 503 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: I'll see you on the air tonight in New York. 504 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. 505 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 10: Thank you. 506 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: keV iv A. 507 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: Kevin McCollough coming back from Times Square. Don't go away. 508 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: Here he is from New York. That Kevin Kevin McCullough, That. 509 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: Kevinshow dot Com, the podcast, the TV show, the columns, 510 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: everything's there. We've been talking as we should have been 511 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: for the last couple of days, all things related to 512 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: the Maduro takedown or the weekend, and my next guest, 513 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: I want to ask some very specific questions about because 514 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most brilliant military minds 515 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: I've ever had the good fortune of having on my show, 516 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: and he has been a longtime contributor to what we 517 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: do here. You see him on Fox News all the time. 518 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: He is one of the most decorated and esteemed military 519 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: minds in the country. General Jack Keane, Welcome back to 520 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough. Good to have you. 521 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 8: Great to be back to here in your audience. 522 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: Here, General, my brother in law, and I've told you 523 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: this before, is forward active duty Navy right now, and 524 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: he was over the weekend speaking with us privately saying 525 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: the amount of coordination that had to be, you know, 526 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: down to the speck on the mark to pull off 527 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: what we pulled off. The way we pulled it off 528 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: is historic in its scope, and I'm just curious if 529 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: you could give us any further insight on just how 530 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: detailed this was. 531 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, see, what drives all of this is important to 532 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 8: the ability to achieve surprise, and then two to put 533 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 8: in a relatively small extraction force that has to fly 534 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 8: deep into Venezuela from the coast and avoid detection and 535 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 8: avoid reaction to any detection. So this made the operation 536 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 8: very complicated, and it also brings a certain amount of 537 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 8: precision to the operation where timing is important if you're 538 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 8: fighting a battle, an all out battle, and when you 539 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 8: started is probably the key thing, but everything after that 540 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 8: is quite relative to what has taken place on the ground. 541 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 8: This had to have a precision, you know, dealing with 542 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 8: about three hours of activity, so that made it extraordinary. 543 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 8: It began number one, with the intelligence, the intelligence and 544 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 8: the detailed of the intelligence and being able to attract 545 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 8: Madure even though he was changing locations and other things. 546 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 8: To know at a specific time, at a specific date 547 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 8: where he would be was exquisite. To be able to 548 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 8: have that penetration, to be able to do that, human intelligence, 549 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 8: signals intelligence, you know, penetrating the Internet, penetrating phones, surveillance 550 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 8: intelligence as well, all coming together to give us that. 551 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 8: Then that put us into a planning phase that I 552 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 8: think had a lot of imagination to it and obviously 553 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 8: a lot of details in terms of how comprehensive, then 554 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 8: a preparation phase to practice and get it right, and 555 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 8: that it particularly involved the insertion force, the helicopters, and 556 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 8: the ground force themselves. I commanded Fort Bragg when I 557 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 8: was a free Star, and that Delta Special Operations Unit 558 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 8: was the very familiar with who they are what they 559 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 8: can do. In the one sixtieth Aviation Unit. When I 560 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 8: commanded on first Airborne Division and Fort Campbell, they were 561 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 8: stationarre so very familiar with their capabilities, which are enormous, 562 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 8: but what you're getting at the complications of it was 563 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 8: pretty significant. So let's begin with that. What they had 564 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 8: to do is suppress command and control. So multiple command 565 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 8: and control sites had to be levied because you didn't 566 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 8: want the senior leaders being able to order reaction forces. 567 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 8: And then communication telecommunications. Then tenlefarms that they would be 568 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 8: using were also taken down. The radar sites that would 569 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 8: pick up a force entering the coastline of Venezuela that 570 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 8: had to be eliminate, and then air defense systems that 571 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 8: could obviously react to that force as well. And then 572 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 8: they had to suppress the capability for reaction from military capability. 573 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 8: This was Navy Base a very large one or two 574 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 8: army bases that had reaction forces at it, and certainly 575 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 8: the force that could react to most would be air power, 576 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 8: so they had to suppress air bases as well. That 577 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 8: led to the complications of it and had to last 578 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 8: for some time because of the entry to the military 579 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 8: base and then the compound on the military base, and 580 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 8: had to penetrate that successfully without detection. And they achieved 581 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 8: that and then acted the couple very quickly, a matter 582 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 8: of minutes from the time they landed the time they 583 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 8: had them in their possession was minutes, which was quite 584 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 8: remarkable itself, and they had to kill a number of 585 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 8: people to be able to gain that access. But this 586 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 8: force is so highly trained, so capable with the weapon 587 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 8: in their hands. I mean, they just routinelyre two bullets 588 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 8: in this people's chest and they do it in millimeter seconds, 589 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 8: and they have an unbelievable degree of accuracy. When they're 590 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 8: on to move or whether the target is moving, It 591 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 8: is completely irrelevant to what kind of capabilities these people have, 592 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 8: and there is no obstacle that can stop them from 593 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 8: gain and entry. These are the same people that it 594 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 8: would have to penetrate a nuclear protected site of an 595 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 8: adversary if they needed to do, and they have the 596 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 8: capabilities to do all of that. So yes, lots of precision, 597 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 8: lots of comprehensive planning, and unbelievable flawless execution despite how 598 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 8: complicated it was. 599 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: What I think everybody is walking away with such an 600 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: appreciation of how thoroughly ready and flawlessly they did that. 601 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: Let me shift gears. Just in our last couple of 602 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: minutes here, not regarding the Western hemisphere. I'm going to 603 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: talk with Rear Admiral Brown about that next hour, but 604 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: in the larger context of China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, 605 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: Venezuela was kind of becoming something very useful to those 606 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: four states. How does this takedown impact our ability, our 607 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: leverage with our fore most hostile opponents. 608 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 8: Well, absolutely is a setback for them, you know, particularly 609 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 8: for China, Russia and Iran because they clearly had it 610 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 8: invested here. I mean Iranians had HESBLA on the ground. 611 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 8: There Another security capability. The Russia has provided leadership to 612 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 8: how to organize the security forces during the Trump's first administration, 613 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 8: when they thought the opposition would be able to penetrate 614 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 8: and and and get the incumbent government to stand down, 615 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 8: and many of those are still there, and the Cubans 616 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 8: have a significant Most of the security force that Dealt 617 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 8: had to kill were largely all all Cubans. But the 618 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 8: geopolitical setback is even more significant than the people. Clearly, Buddy, 619 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 8: what the United States demonstrated and the interacting. 620 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: We're out of time, but I am so grateful for 621 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: your analysis. Thank you for being with us. 622 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's good talking to me again, Kevin. 623 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: Thank you you too, General, appreciate it. 624 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 11: Kevin McCalla con right back, serving it up with a 625 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 11: new drink. Middle it's that cabin that show. 626 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: So glad to have you with us, Kevin McCollough on 627 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: the twoesday edition that kevinshow dot com for everything you 628 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: want related to the show. And big thank you to 629 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: General Keene for stopping in. He is really one of 630 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: the great guys. And I wanted him to relay the 631 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: detail of the attack like that because that was all 632 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: stuff I heard from military sources. But it's hard to 633 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: get an appreciation for it until you have someone like 634 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: that explaining it in that minutia. That's not something that 635 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: you just put together, like you know, two weeks ago 636 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: and go okay, now we're going to do it. This 637 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: was basically the moment they walked into office in January 638 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: last year until it happened on sat on this last 639 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: Saturday morning. And that's the amount of preparation, precision, execution 640 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: that had to be that had to be leveled. And 641 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm still amazed that there are any Americans that are 642 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: in any way disappointed with this. I'm seeing stories all 643 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: over the news sites, by the way, of people that 644 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: were Kamala Harris supporters that are like, I am so 645 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: grateful for what President Trump has done here, and I 646 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: think it has a lot to do if you if 647 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: you happen to know somebody, or you have friends, or 648 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: you're aware of a situation of a family in Venezuela 649 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: or maybe Cuba or Colombia that have been impacted by 650 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: these regimes and kind of the evil that they purport. 651 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, if you've seen 652 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: somebody lose everything in their in their life, and in Venezuela, 653 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't just the oppression of people that disagreed with 654 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: the government. It was the you know, taking over of 655 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: their businesses. It was the crushing of industry. It was 656 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: literally squandering the natural resources they have and keeping the 657 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: country in decimatingly bad poverty when you had the ability 658 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: to not do so. You had the ability to provide 659 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: for everyone in your country, and instead of doing that, 660 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: you just kept everyone poor. This is this is part 661 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: of the problem with Marxism, and as we've been talking 662 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: about it over the last you know, a couple of days, 663 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: it's something that's going to continue to rear its head 664 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: because here in the United States we're starting to see 665 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: some of these really bad ideas pop up and it's turning, 666 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, the spotlight on some of what they've said 667 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: and some of the things that they, you know, believe. 668 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: But a lot of this, friends, I don't even think 669 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: is genuine because I think that a lot of Marxists 670 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: get into government, get into the reform game. We want 671 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: to bring reform to this place, this office, this state, 672 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: the city, But really what they want to do is 673 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: gain power and gain wealth. And I think that when 674 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: you're when you're looking at how the selflessness of the 675 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: current administration, and you may say, keV, I have an 676 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: objection to that, Okay, what's the objection, Well, do you 677 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: say they're selfless. Okay, the President is not taking a 678 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: salary for any of the time that he's on the 679 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: clock for the country. Zero. He's not getting paid a dime. 680 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: He has lost in his own personal network, net wealth, 681 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: net worth. He's lost billions over the last eight years, 682 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: nine years, ten years, and he's not going to be 683 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: making any of that back anytime soon because he's still 684 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: got a big job to do for the next you know, 685 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: three years. So there's there's you can say a lot 686 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: of things, selfish isn't one of them. And what's astounding 687 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: to me, and I'm going to write a piece about 688 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: this very soon, but what's astounding to me is you 689 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: have him having these successes in the Western Hemisphere, successes 690 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, success is stopping wars kind of 691 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: on the African continent, in Southeast Asia, et cetera, and 692 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: focusing on getting the domestic stuff in order. The big 693 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: beautiful Bill went through, the tax incentives, the cuts, all 694 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: that's going to kick in here now that we flipped 695 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: over the new year. He's like laser focused, but on 696 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: everything that's on his to do list. And I'm just 697 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: not used to politicians keeping their word from either party. 698 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: It's just really surprising to me when we have someone 699 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: that does what they say they'll do, and I'm kind 700 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: of glad that they're doing it anyway. Kevin McCollough. Our 701 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: number two is straight ahead. It's That Kevin Show. Somewhere 702 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: in the bowels of the City that Never sleeps. 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That check out what you, hear see 744 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: if it checks. Out first of, all in, scripture they 745 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: had a term The. Bahreans The bhoreans were the people 746 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: that checked out What paul and the other teachers would, 747 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: say and they would go and they would study the 748 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: scriptures to find out for themselves that that's in fact 749 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: what he. Said that's the kind of people that we should. 750 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: Be that's the kind of people that elevated people. Are 751 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: when you don't just accept things at face, value but you, say, 752 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: okay let me just confirm. It first of, all if 753 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: the person that's presenting whatever they're presenting to you has 754 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: a problem with, that then you know that there's probably 755 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: something a little. Goofy but for your, sake for the 756 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: raising of your, children for the impacting of the culture around, 757 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: you for the participation in your, church for the ability 758 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: to have an effective witness at the ballot, box and 759 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: and how we conduct our. Governance, friends this is all so, 760 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: important and it starts with. Me it starts. Individually it 761 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: starts WHERE i am at and WHAT i need to 762 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 1: do to prepare myself to then be able to make 763 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: good decisions and then help others lead others to making good. 764 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: Decisions AND i will tell you it's kind of wildly 765 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: out of. FASHION i don't know how you look at 766 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: the situation In minnesota where maybe upwards of eighteen billion 767 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: dollars got shoveled out to people that weren't doing. Anything 768 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: they had set up fake daycare, centers they were ripping 769 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: off the. TAXPAYER i understand completely how Yesterday Governor waltz 770 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: has to kind of, say, well you, know on second, 771 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: thought MAYBE i won't run for. Reelection and that means 772 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: he's not going to run for president or anything else, 773 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: either if he can't get elected in his own state. 774 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: Anymore but that's what the exposing of the hidden and 775 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: bringing it to the light actually. Does It it clarifies 776 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: for everyone to see the difference between what is right 777 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: and what is. Wrong and at the very, least when 778 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about billions and billions of dollars of taxpayer, 779 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: money it's on us to make sure that that transparency. 780 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: HAPPENS i have to kind of go back and revisit 781 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: this regularly BECAUSE i get email from people and sometimes 782 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: they're a little confused on how our country. Works our 783 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: president doesn't rule over. US i need to say that out. 784 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: LOUD i need you to hear, it the president is 785 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: not a ruler in the sense that a monarch or 786 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: a dictator. Is our president is actually our, employee and 787 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: he has a really hard. Job he has the hardest 788 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: job maybe on Planet, earth because he's got this incredibly huge, 789 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: budget he's got a huge, workforce and he has the 790 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: biggest problems in the world on his. Plate twenty four 791 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: hours a, day seven days a. Week there is nothing 792 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: about his job that gets easier as time goes. By 793 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: and this is WHY i am really really impressed and 794 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: somewhat be fuddled at this idea that you can have 795 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: so much to have to deal with as a, president 796 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: and for this current administration to come in and make 797 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: their to do, lists and in each department they've got 798 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: the stuff that they've got to, do and they've got 799 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: to go check off all the things that's on that. 800 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: List and in every, department whether It's, defense whether it's you, know, 801 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: commerce whether It's, state whether It's, treasury whether it's The, 802 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: interior what, transportation in all of these departments have lots of. 803 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 3: Problems there's not. 804 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: One of them that's just like sailing around, going, hey 805 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: we got it all. Together, no they wake up every. 806 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: Morning they got to put out, fires they got to 807 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: figure out things that need to be. Fixed and they 808 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: have been doing that for about a year, now and 809 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: another week or, so they'll have been in the office 810 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: for about a, year and they have, accomplished by my, 811 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: measure more promises kept as a group of people working 812 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: as kind of one organization than any Organization i've ever 813 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: seen on Planet. Earth and they're not small. Problems they 814 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: have deported a lot of criminals that were here and 815 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: gotten them off our. Street that has reduced the fentanyl 816 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: flow Into. America that's protecting more of our children than ever. 817 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: Before The Big Beautiful bill addresses everything from getting men 818 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: out of women's locker rooms on team sports to making 819 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: sure that education has kind of a new accountability to. 820 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: It anything related to the federal level of education is 821 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: going to have a lot of high accountability to, it 822 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: meaning they're not just going to be able to shuffle 823 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 1: money around and kind of wonder where it. Went it's 824 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: going to be, very very. Accountable and then you've got 825 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: all of the Economic you've got, inflation you've got jobs, 826 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: numbers you've got all the things on the domestic side 827 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: that in a normal administration presidents are usually really good domestic, 828 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: administrators or they're really good foreign policy. PEOPLE. H. W, 829 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: bush for, example great on foreign, policy not so great 830 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: at kind of understanding the, economy and kind of that 831 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: was The Achilles. Heel no new taxes and then couldn't 832 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 1: figure out how to pay the, bills so he was 833 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: going to end up raising, taxes And Bill clinton, Said, 834 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: Okay i'm going to use that as the wedge issue against, 835 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: you uses it and then comes in as kind of 836 00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: the domestic policy guy and kind of triangulates economic and 837 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,439 Speaker 1: on a domestic policy, front seems to have a really good. 838 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 1: Plan he wasn't as concerned about foreign. Policy his focus 839 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: was on what was going on, here despite The Monica 840 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 1: lewinsky thing and everything. Else he he sold The american 841 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: people on his economic abilities and he got re. Elected GEORGE. W, 842 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: bush in kind of similar, fashion kind of forced to 843 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: deal with foreign policy Because november eleventh happens in his first, 844 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: year and he does an adequate job of. That he 845 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: does an adequate job of tax. Reduction you have you 846 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,919 Speaker 1: have some tax cuts that come in during The bush 847 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: years that are pretty pretty. Extraordinary he also Does Medicaid 848 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: PLAN d or, whatever it, is but he will always 849 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: be perceived as a national security kind of foreign policy. 850 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: Guy this current, group this current, group they are fixing 851 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: the economy this year twenty twenty. Six we're gonna have 852 00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: robust economic. Growth they've sold seven eight. Wars there's a 853 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: ninth one they want to get rid. Of they've extracted 854 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: one of the deadliest dictators in our, hemisphere and they've 855 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: got everyone unnoticed that you're not going to push THE 856 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: usa around. Anymore. Friends they're achieving on both sides of 857 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: that of that, chasm And i've never seen it done 858 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: that way. Before it's just really. Remarkable All, right some 859 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: interesting conversations coming up the legalities of what happened next 860 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 1: With Zack smith from The Heritage, Foundation Zach Kevin, show 861 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. 862 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: Here he is From New. 863 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: York That Kevin kevin, mccullor welcome back to That Kevin, 864 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: show that kevinshow Dot com for all things related to the. 865 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: Broadcast we appreciate you being with. Us Zack smith is 866 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: back with us from The Heritage, foundation And, zach of, 867 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: course all Things maduro is the topic of these last 868 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: couple of. DAYS i thought it was really ironic that 869 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: on the first day when he goes to his first, 870 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: hearing he waives his speedy trial option Until march. SEVENTEENTH i, 871 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,919 Speaker 1: think is this next court. Date but from a legal, 872 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: perspective what are we going to watch play out? 873 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 7: Here? 874 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 13: Yeah so, LOOK i think what we saw with The 875 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 13: maduro his wife making their initial appearance in federal court 876 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 13: In Lower manhattan this, week that was the first step 877 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 13: and was likely to, be as you alluded, to a 878 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 13: very lengthy criminal. Process the charges That maduro and five other, 879 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 13: individuals including his buy for facing are very serious. Charges 880 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 13: their charges involving narco, terrorism drug, trafficking weapons. Charges if 881 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 13: he is convicted on any one of these, charges he 882 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 13: is facing, decades if not life in. Prison and SO 883 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 13: i think you heard a little bit at his initial. 884 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 13: Appearance his attorneys expected the luminous, discovery a lot of 885 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 13: documents coming over from the prosecution. Team there will likely 886 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 13: be a lot of back and. Forth we even Heard 887 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 13: maduro trying to raise issues about the supposed illegality of 888 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 13: his arrest In, venezuela and the judge wasn't having it 889 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 13: at that initial. Appearance he said there will be a 890 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 13: time and place to raise those issues later although we 891 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 13: can talk about. It the administration is on very solid 892 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 13: footing in terms of the actions that it took legally, 893 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 13: speaking in terms of precedent that prior presidents have. Taken but, 894 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 13: look this is going to be a lengthy. Process we 895 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 13: just saw the very beginning of it this. Week BUT 896 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 13: i think we can all agree it was certainly very 897 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 13: surreal to See maduro and his wife taking a motor 898 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 13: key Through, brooklyn getting my helicopter landing In Lower, manhattan 899 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 13: and then ultimately being transported there to the federal courthouse 900 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 13: In New York city to face justice for as many heinous. 901 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 1: Actions, well and here's so. YESTERDAY i don't think the 902 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: news media could, help but have lots of comparisons to 903 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: The noriega arrest and trial and eventual. Convictions what you 904 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: mentioned just a couple of the. Charges but how does 905 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: The maduro case kind of stack up against what we 906 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: saw With. NORIEGA i, Mean noriega actually technically WAS i 907 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 1: guess the sitting head of his country when we brought 908 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: him In, maduro we're holding the contention that he was 909 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: not the head of state In, venezuela and as such 910 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: he's not entitled to any of the arguments about what 911 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: would be applied to a head. 912 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 13: Of, state, Right, WELL i think one of the reasons 913 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 13: you're hearing so many comparisons to The norriega case is 914 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 13: because one of the things THAT i Suspect maduro and 915 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 13: his attorneys will raise is they'll try to say that 916 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 13: somehow THE us it was acting outside of international, law 917 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 13: that somehow the president didn't have the authority to take 918 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 13: this action to Arrest maduro and his wife for their 919 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 13: crimes for which they had been indicted during The United 920 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 13: States and that's just not. True in, fact if we 921 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 13: go back to the late nineteen eighties there of the nineteen, 922 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 13: nineties when The noriega case was playing, out The office 923 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 13: Of Legal, counsel the constitutional lawyers within The Justice department 924 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 13: actually wrote a memo staying that the president has the 925 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 13: article to authority under The constitution to help effectuate arrest 926 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 13: warrants even outside of The United. States and if you 927 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 13: listen to What secretary Of State Mark arubio said in 928 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 13: the immediate aftermath of The maduro, arrest if you listened 929 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 13: to What secretary Of War Pete hegseth, said they made 930 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 13: clear that fundamentally this was a law enforcement. Action there 931 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 13: are federal agents on the ground with troops when they 932 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 13: Arrested maduro and his. Wife and it just because this 933 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 13: arrest took place in a foreign, country just because this 934 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 13: arrest took more resources THAN i think we would typically 935 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 13: see to effectuated in arrest, warrant that doesn't make it 936 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 13: any less. Legal and essentially that's what the courts held 937 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 13: in The noriega, case that the president has the authority 938 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,839 Speaker 13: to execute rest warrants to enforce the, law even if 939 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 13: it involves using very high levels of force in foreign. 940 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 14: Countries. 941 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: YEAH i think one of the things That trump is 942 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 1: recalibrating the entire stage with is his kind of pin 943 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: prick ability to use military in this case as support 944 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: of law. Enforcement the claims that The democrats and that 945 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: the left and The democratic socialists especially here in THE 946 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: us are making in the media that he wrongfully used 947 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: war powers here is An is there any legal standing 948 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: on which they're finding validity for that? 949 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 13: Argument, NO i don't think. So, again courts have signed 950 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,839 Speaker 13: off on these types of actions before prior. Presidents many 951 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 13: prior presidents are taking similar types of. 952 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 1: ACTIONS i don't robbish for any of. Them complaining When 953 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,720 Speaker 1: obama was sending drones over to kill, people Including american, 954 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: citizens in during his, administration AND i don't think he 955 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: ever Got congress to sign off with any of. 956 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 13: Those, well the, hypocrisy the hypocrisy is even worse than, That, 957 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 13: kevin because if you go back and look at clips 958 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,439 Speaker 13: Of chuck schum or Other democratic leaders during the First 959 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 13: trump administration actually Criticizing President trump for not taking more 960 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 13: aggressive action Against Nicholas, maduro for not taking using higher 961 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 13: levels of force to bring him to. Justice and now 962 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 13: that the president has done exactly, that many of those 963 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 13: same individuals are now claiming that it was, illegal. 964 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 7: That this was ill. 965 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 13: Advised and SO i think it's very clear that, unfortunately 966 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 13: Many democratic politicians are using this in an attempt to 967 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 13: score political points instead of looking clear eyed and trying 968 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 13: to understand that what the president did is not only, 969 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 13: illegal is not a constitutional but it's within the best 970 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 13: interest of The United states as. 971 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: What let's talk a little bit about the structure of 972 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: the legality. Here If maduro has found guilty on one 973 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: or multiple charges that he's charged, with and how many 974 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: how many charges is he? Facing did you say? 975 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 13: Five there are five other individuals who have been indicted 976 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,919 Speaker 13: along With nicholas. 977 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: He's facing, specifically how do you know how many there? 978 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 13: Are, yeah to go back and, look they're exactly essentially 979 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:03,800 Speaker 13: they fall into three, Buckets. 980 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 1: Kevin so there'sentually it, is it's a. 981 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 10: Bunch and the THING i. 982 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 13: Would say, too the, indictment it's a twenty five page 983 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 13: indictment and it's what prosecutors defense blawyers would call a speaking, 984 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 13: indictment where essentially a lot of the verbiage in the 985 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 13: indictment is essentially laying out in the, story is helping 986 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 13: to explain the background That Nicholas maduro wasn't, acting as 987 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 13: you said, earlier as the head of state Of venezuela 988 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 13: when he took many of these. Actions he was essentially 989 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 13: acting as the head of an illegal drug trafficking cartel 990 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 13: and taking these actions for his own, enrichment his own, 991 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 13: benefit even though they were harming many other. 992 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: People so they harmed a lot Of. Americans that's why 993 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: we're trying. Him my question, is as a Non, american 994 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: if he finds himself guilty on the on the guilty 995 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: end of one or more of these, charges what is 996 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: the appeals process like for someone that is not A us. 997 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: Citizen here we talk, about you, know going up and 998 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: having it appealed and getting to the next, level and 999 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: you know all that type of. Stuff is there anything 1000 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 1: about his case that gives him other appeals beyond the 1001 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: court that he. Faces, Now, yeah. 1002 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 13: The criminal justice process is going to play out exactly 1003 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 13: the same for, him whether you're a, citizen whether you're 1004 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,439 Speaker 13: a non. Citizen he is going to get the full 1005 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 13: panopoly of protections that any criminal defendant would. Get that's 1006 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 13: one of the things about our country is we make 1007 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 13: sure that everyone is afforded basic, protections basic due process. 1008 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: Under the rule of. 1009 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 13: Law and SO i suspect if he is, convicted you'll 1010 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 13: see the normal appeals process play. Out he may even 1011 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 13: try to take his case all the way to THE 1012 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 13: Us Supreme, court as would be his right to ask 1013 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 13: the court to take up his. Case, now in terms 1014 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 13: of collateral, consequences that's where things may get a little bit. 1015 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 3: Tricky you may see. 1016 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 13: Some unique arguments as it pertains to, him because, again 1017 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 13: THE us is essentially arguing that he wasn't acting as 1018 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 13: The venezuela and a head of state when he took 1019 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 13: many of these actions he was acting as the head 1020 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 13: of this illegal drug trafficking. Cartel but many of those 1021 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 13: arguments are likely years in the off, thing AND i 1022 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 13: suspect again we're going to see a lot of information 1023 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 13: coming out as this criminal case plays. 1024 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: Out were you surprised that he waived a speedy trial 1025 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: right at his first, Hearing, no not at. 1026 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 13: All you, know one of the things you typically do 1027 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 13: at the initial appearance is you try to the judge 1028 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 13: tries to decide whether the defendant will get, bail whether 1029 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 13: he'll be released from. CUSTODY i think it was pretty 1030 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 13: Clear Nicholas maduro was not going to be released from. 1031 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 13: Custody the charges here are again very. Serious the information 1032 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 13: that the defense attorneys are likely going to request from 1033 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 13: the government is going to be, voluminous and SO i 1034 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 13: was not surprised at all to see that he waved his. 1035 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: Right how significant was it That, State WAR, cia all 1036 00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: these departments were working so tightly together for so many 1037 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: months in advance before the action was. 1038 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 13: Taken, well, LOOK i, think stepping back from the legal 1039 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 13: aspects of the, case this action by the president by 1040 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 13: our military forces was extremely. Successful it was extremely complex. 1041 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 13: ACTION i think many of my colleagues have spoken about. 1042 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: IT i needed the legal basis to launch this on 1043 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 1: and you're saying that the foundation on which they acted is, solid. 1044 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Right, yes that's. 1045 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 13: RIGHT i mean just from an operational. Standpoint my colleagues 1046 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 13: have talked about what a great action this was in 1047 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 13: terms of the operational. Success but, yes in terms of the, 1048 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 13: legality these actions such as this have previously been signed off, 1049 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 13: on previously been used by prior. Presidents, AGAIN i think 1050 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 13: in The reea case provides a, good relatively recent example 1051 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 13: of those types of. Actions but, yes, fundamentally the legal 1052 01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 13: basis for this action was THE us forces were simplying 1053 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 13: and a rest want for a fugitive from. 1054 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 8: Justice. 1055 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah and by the, Way noriega tried the head of 1056 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: state argument and it didn't work for, him and he 1057 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: was during, State so it's not going to work For, maduro. 1058 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: Isn't Jack, Smith Zack, Smith we always appreciate your fine 1059 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: work At. Heritage thank you for being back with, us 1060 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again. 1061 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 13: Soon of, course thanks for having me on the. 1062 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Show kevin McCullough coming back From Times. Square don't go. 1063 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Anywhere let's stick around for. 1064 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 2: More of, That. Kevin next here he is From New. 1065 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 2: York That Kevin kevin, McCullough. 1066 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back To Times. Square it's That Kevin, show that 1067 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,439 Speaker 1: kevinshow dot com for all the needed. Info we've had 1068 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: a lot of interesting voices on the. Show. Today we 1069 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 1: continue to talk about the biggest story of twenty twenty, 1070 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: six and that is the Outright New Year's day surprise 1071 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: that we leveled against one of the worst enemies against 1072 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: our country and took him into custody and now he's 1073 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: going to rot in a jail cell for a couple 1074 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: of months before his next hearing even comes. In i'm 1075 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: talking About Nicholas. Maduro of, Course Admiral brown is back 1076 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 1: with us from The America First Policy. INSTITUTE i don't 1077 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: know when it, Was admiral you were last with. Me 1078 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 1: it was may Or. JUNE i think of last, summer 1079 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: and you were talking about the importance that the administration 1080 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: was putting on the security of The Western. Hemisphere and 1081 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: it's hard for The Western hemisphere if you have a 1082 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: non elected dictator running drugs into our country and migrants 1083 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 1: to our, country and gang members to our country and everything. 1084 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: Else your thoughts on the events of last, week, well. 1085 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 12: Thanks for having me, Back, Kevin and, yeah it is 1086 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 12: interesting how this has come off full circle over in 1087 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 12: just a few. Months but talking very specifically about last, 1088 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 12: weekend a lot of people have commented on the tactical 1089 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 12: excellence the flawlessness of you, know a lightning STRIKE uh 1090 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 12: to Get maduro and his wife fugitives From american, justice 1091 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 12: indicted drug traffickers and conspirators and bring them to THE, 1092 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 12: us supported by just the OUTSTANDING uh, people tactics AND 1093 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 12: uh and equipment of THE us. 1094 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 14: Military that lightning, strike, though is not just a one time. 1095 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 12: Deal it was the culmination of a deliberate and principled 1096 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 12: strategy that The trump administration began REALLY uh and have 1097 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 12: been moving forward in the direction of making The United 1098 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 12: states and The western hemisphere, safe, secure, stable and prosperous 1099 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 12: AND uh and this was a fantastic very in that. 1100 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Direction, yeah how important is? IT i just have to 1101 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: ask this knowing That i've had a lot Of cuban 1102 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: friends And colombian friends that have reached out to me 1103 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: over the last few days because you've seen a huge 1104 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: Pro america movement in The western. Hemisphere lots of Pro 1105 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: american leaders have been. Elected but you still have a 1106 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: handful of holdouts that are very very Anti. 1107 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 12: America, yeah and it's interesting And secretary Of rubio very, 1108 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 12: purposely just ten days after his ninety nine to zero 1109 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 12: unanimous confirmation by The, senate his first foreign trip was 1110 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 12: to The Western hemisphere To, Panama Costa rique A l 1111 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 12: Salvor dominican. Public very purposefully. So and also that same, 1112 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 12: Month february of last, year he, designated pursuing to president 1113 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 12: Presidential Executive, order many, cartels Including cartel De soles and, 1114 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 12: others as a foreign terrorist organizations and especially designated global. 1115 01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 12: Targets then you saw the deportation Trained rogo deporties TO L, 1116 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 12: salvador the beginning of the movement of military assets from 1117 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 12: farther afield on the globe toward The, caribbean and then 1118 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 12: over the, summer but invisible to the, public the development 1119 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 12: of the legal justification and the military targeting procedures for 1120 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 12: getting after the drug trafficking, vessels the oil smuggling, vessels 1121 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 12: and ultimately To maduro. Himself so this has been a 1122 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 12: very logical, progression And maduro has offered a number of 1123 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 12: off ramps along the way as this kind of layer 1124 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 12: upon a layer OF us activities was presented to, him 1125 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 12: and he never took the. Hint and the goal would 1126 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 12: be AND i, know having worked directly With President trump 1127 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 12: as His Homeland security, advisor. 1128 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 14: That The president would prefer to show but not use 1129 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 14: THE us military to accomplish these. Goals and, so but. 1130 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 12: If petro In colombia And canalis and the Other cuba 1131 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 12: and Even shine by To mexico don't turn around and 1132 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 12: do the right, THING i wouldn't be surprised to see 1133 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 12: ADDITIONAL us action two again make the hemisphere and The 1134 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,240 Speaker 12: United states, safe, stable, prosperous and. 1135 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: SECURE i, Mean maduro was kind of easy to. Spot 1136 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: he had a big. Resume we knew of all the 1137 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 1: things that he was, doing from rigging elections to transporting the, 1138 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: drugs defying the. Embargoes do we have similar dossiers on 1139 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: the leaders In colombia And cuba and people that need 1140 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,919 Speaker 1: to be addressed In, mexico. 1141 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 12: Well certainly With petrol And. COLUMBIA i, mean he's a 1142 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 12: former guerrilla leader, himself and both he and a former 1143 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 12: president Of Columbia, santos have conceded so much to the 1144 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 12: leftist insurgents In. Colombia for whom the borter To venezuela 1145 01:06:55,320 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 12: is completely. Transparent and their combination of those insurgents with 1146 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 12: the drug trafficking cartels and the government is really The 1147 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 12: it's the poisonous brew that was most visible In, venezuela 1148 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 12: and Also venezuela it also had that combination of external 1149 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 12: support From, China, Russia, iran And, cuba and then also 1150 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 12: where it could with its, Oil venezuela was providing support 1151 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 12: to those other regimes as. 1152 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 14: Well so And venezuela. 1153 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 12: Also was important to The United states because most of 1154 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 12: the threat streams of The Western hemisphere were present In, 1155 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 12: venezuela from the legal migration human trafficking, obviously to the 1156 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 12: drug traffick and communist insurgencies and the corruption and the 1157 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 12: illegal oil. Market so all of those things were features 1158 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 12: that The United states wanted to push back, against including 1159 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 12: that extra hemisphere influence of the bad. Actors and we're 1160 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 12: able to do it by Targeting. Maduro and we've given 1161 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 12: notice not only within the, hemisphere but also To, moscow To, 1162 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:16,640 Speaker 12: beijing To teyron That Donald, Trump secretary Of, Rubio secretary Of, 1163 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 12: hegseth and the entirety of The trump administration are very 1164 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 12: serious about Oubtecting america And americans at home and. 1165 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: Broth, Yeah admiral pulled that. Thought coming right Back kevin 1166 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 1: McCullough From Times. Squared uncle way. 1167 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 2: Here he is From New. York i'm That. Kevin kevin. 1168 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 1: McCullough welcome, Back kevin. Mccallaugh glad to have you with. 1169 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Us it's That kevin, show that kevinshow dot com for 1170 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: all things, related including the, podcast THE tv, show the, 1171 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 1: columns the every thing you, want social, media. Etc it's 1172 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 1: all there that kevinshow dot. Com glad to have you with. 1173 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Us To Admiral Peter brown Or Admiral Peter brown's with 1174 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: us and he's part Of America First Policy institute's focus 1175 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 1: on The Western, hemisphere WHICH i. Admiral to be, HONEST 1176 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 1: i don't think a lot of people were paying that 1177 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: much attention to prior to the return Of trump to 1178 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: The White. HOUSE i don't even know a lot OF 1179 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 1: maga people knew the importance of what needed to be 1180 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: done in our. 1181 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 12: Hemisphere, yeah and it's truly sad because the, area the 1182 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,560 Speaker 12: region had been literally overlooked by the foreign policy establishment 1183 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 12: of both parties for. Decades essentially the only thing that 1184 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 12: we cared, about if we cared at, all were the 1185 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 12: drug flow and when it, exploded the micro. Flow but 1186 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 12: everything else about the hemisphere was just neglected for far too. 1187 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 12: Long And President Trump secretary Of rubio have put an 1188 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 12: end to that neglect and put it literally as the 1189 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 12: first priority of not only their foreign policy but also 1190 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 12: the national security. 1191 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 1: STRATEGY i mentioned this earlier in the, show But i'm 1192 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 1: Just i'm somewhat amazed at how productive one administration can 1193 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 1: be in so many different proficiencies while in. Office because 1194 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 1: this is an administration that is Handled Middle. East we 1195 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,760 Speaker 1: took out The iranian. Capacity we are still involved in 1196 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 1: The Ukraine russia, conflict trying to bring that to an, 1197 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 1: end but we solved nine other conflicts that were going. 1198 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:32,600 Speaker 1: On we've gone and gotten the worst thug and cartel 1199 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 1: boss in our. Hemisphere here there's notices being served In 1200 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: colombia And cuba and other places to shape up or 1201 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: be ready to be shipped. Out and that's all going 1202 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,719 Speaker 1: on simultaneously to the domestic, policy which is addressing. Inflation 1203 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 1: and normally you have an administration that Says i'm going 1204 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: to focus on domestic Or i'm going to focus on foreign, 1205 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 1: affairs and they usually don't do both well if they 1206 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,120 Speaker 1: are heavy. 1207 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 8: And one or the. 1208 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: Other but this administration seems so. Balanced it's kind of 1209 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: Like i'm asking myself the, question what did we get 1210 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,600 Speaker 1: out of other? Administrations what did our money pay? For 1211 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't people that were working as hard as this 1212 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: group is. 1213 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 12: Now and to, me as mentioned this to other people 1214 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 12: in private, meetings the two best features of This trump 1215 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 12: Administration trump forty seven compared. 1216 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 14: To, trump to all, authors and even To trump. 1217 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,560 Speaker 12: Forty five the administration WHICH i worked, with is that 1218 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 12: he has picked for a key leadership. Position we talked 1219 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 12: a lot About secretary Of, RUBIO, Dhs secretary Know, Pete, Hegseth, Tulcy, 1220 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 12: gabber Rfk. All these folks have two key features to, 1221 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 12: them and they are that they know how to speak 1222 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 12: plainly to The american people without the, euphemism the double, 1223 01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 12: speak and the and the evasion of, responsibility the type 1224 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 12: of language that's previously been used by. Politicians and then 1225 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 12: the second thing is that they are not behold into the, 1226 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:13,799 Speaker 12: bureaucracies that they are moving in a completely different direction 1227 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 12: from the failed administrations of the. 1228 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Past, well that is, obvious AND i love having really 1229 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 1: competent little mini means Of Donald trump at the head 1230 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 1: of each cabinet. DIVISION i just think it's it's an 1231 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 1: incredible example of what government can and we should be 1232 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: as voters holding them accountable to accomplish when they're in. 1233 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 1: Office you don't you don't get days, off you don't 1234 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 1: you're on our. Dime you're supposed to be there fixing the. 1235 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Country and in every way, possible this group is under the, 1236 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 1: hood you, know changing the spark plugs or make sure 1237 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: the timing belt's. Good like they're they're doing what they 1238 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 1: need to do to make sure that they're leaving the 1239 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 1: country in a much better place than what they inherited from. 1240 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 1: It let me move to a different topic that read, 1241 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:08,720 Speaker 1: about and that's the importance of minerals that AND i 1242 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Think venezuela has a significant deposit of some of, these 1243 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: but there are many others in some countries where we 1244 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: are at competing interests With. China and this is one 1245 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,840 Speaker 1: of the things THAT i believe is going to be one, 1246 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 1: of if not the most important energy related debates and 1247 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,639 Speaker 1: issues going. Forward whoever controls the mass supply of energy 1248 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: and the technology for how we use that energy to create, knowledge, facts, 1249 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 1: technology defense, systems et. Cetera it's all it's all in 1250 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 1: a Related so this is like really really, important but 1251 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: you're you're issuing kind of a stern warning to the 1252 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,599 Speaker 1: to the public and to leaders to, say, hey don't 1253 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 1: forget that the, minerals particularly the rare earth stuff is 1254 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,599 Speaker 1: really really vital And china wants to own our lunch. 1255 01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 12: On it, Absolutely and The donro doctrine or The trump 1256 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 12: carollery that's embedded in the national security strategy and that 1257 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 12: he's talked about hemispheric actors militarily and, diplomatically but also 1258 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 12: commercially to not allow them to, dominate whether it's support, 1259 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:20,400 Speaker 12: facilities the, transportation or the assets and resources of The western. 1260 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:26,759 Speaker 12: Hemisphere so you don't Allow venezuela's oil to be shipped 1261 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,600 Speaker 12: To china and to Profit venezuela And. China, INSTEAD i 1262 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,560 Speaker 12: have it shipped to The United states for refining with 1263 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 12: a profit to benefit the people Of. Venezuela the people 1264 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 12: Of venezuela have had to, flee and also THE us 1265 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 12: companies that had property expropriated and with regard to rare 1266 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 12: earth minerals and other critical minerals absolutely vital that THE 1267 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 12: us have a secure and The Western hemisphere have a 1268 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 12: secure supply chain for those items that are vital to, 1269 01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 12: batteries solar, panels all manner of electronics. 1270 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 14: For, defense on commercial. 1271 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 12: Purposes and, remember we've talked a, Lot you've heard a 1272 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,919 Speaker 12: lot about the Mo roe doctrine. Lately The monroe doctrine 1273 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:13,680 Speaker 12: really sprang out of arguments That Alexander hamilton made back 1274 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 12: way back Into federalist papers And federalist eleven and, twelve 1275 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,720 Speaker 12: where he argued for a robust navy to be the 1276 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,759 Speaker 12: tie breaker essentially and start pushing back On european powers 1277 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 12: in The western, hemisphere and then to have a robust 1278 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 12: coastguard like function that. 1279 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 14: Would help protect tariff. Revenue and the idea, was. 1280 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 12: As hamilton conceived, that As President trump is clearly, advancing 1281 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 12: is that the security of The United states. Exists it's, 1282 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 12: important and it exists to protect The american, people but 1283 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 12: also to protect The american people's ability to flourish, commercially, personally, 1284 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 12: social and so that security stands in service of the 1285 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 12: benefits to The american. 1286 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,600 Speaker 1: Pepe, yeah that's a great point to point out and 1287 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,040 Speaker 1: a good point to end, On Admiral Peter. Brown we 1288 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,679 Speaker 1: appreciate your service to our. Country we appreciate your service 1289 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,640 Speaker 1: now in the capacity that you're in and helping the 1290 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 1: country stay focused on some of these important, issues and 1291 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 1: we hope you'll come back and see us again in 1292 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:15,599 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 1293 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 2: Six thanks, Again. 1294 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,880 Speaker 14: Kevin can't wait to see what happens over the coming. 1295 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 1: Year you got. It Happy New, Year kevin, mccalloch coming right, 1296 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 1: back don't go, away stick around. 1297 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 15: For more of That kevin, next serving it up with 1298 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,759 Speaker 15: a no. Drink it's That Kevin, show. 1299 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 1: All, right welcome. Back it's That Kevin, show that kevinshow dot. 1300 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 1: Com final few minutes. Friends earlier in the in the show, 1301 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 1: TODAY i talked about the mayor Of New york and we've, 1302 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: talked we've discussed at length the problems In minneapolis where 1303 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: you've got you, know crazy Anti, american Non American somali's 1304 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 1: that refuse to, assimilate that are basically ripping off our 1305 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 1: government with the help of The Democratic party politicians in that. 1306 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 1: State AND i know that if you live In alabama 1307 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: Or mississippi Or. Texas today while In, texas you've Got 1308 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Jasmine crockett to, enjoy so kudos to you for. That 1309 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 1: she is like a third grader who just cannot handle 1310 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 1: not getting her. Way it's like she runs outside and 1311 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: stomps her feet and curses as much as she, can 1312 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,160 Speaker 1: just to get it out of her. SYSTEM i. Guess 1313 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,920 Speaker 1: but if that's how she handles her, stress maybe it. 1314 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 1: HELPS i don't. Know it doesn't seem helpful to, me 1315 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,759 Speaker 1: but that's just my. Perspective but there are other cities 1316 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:51,720 Speaker 1: that are going down This marxist socialist. Route and Now 1317 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,959 Speaker 1: seattle's new mayor is facing a growing amount of scrutiny 1318 01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 1: over her approach to everything from public safety to internal 1319 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,720 Speaker 1: issues related to the police department and some outlined in 1320 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 1: an email about how most drug possession and public use 1321 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:15,560 Speaker 1: cases are being directed toward diversion rather than, prosecution and 1322 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 1: this is prompting backlash from critics who say the approach 1323 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: sends the wrong message as open drug use remains visible 1324 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,560 Speaker 1: across the. City, NOW i don't know if you live In, 1325 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,639 Speaker 1: seattle AND i think we've got a really good couple 1326 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 1: of stations up in your, Way, seattle AND i want 1327 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 1: to say thank you to The salem folks that have 1328 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 1: a sign up. 1329 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 7: There but. 1330 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: If your parent raising a small, child do you really 1331 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: want outside of your door to wake up in the 1332 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:47,800 Speaker 1: morning and to smell the kind of putrid smell of marijuana. 1333 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 1: Usage do you want to walk your kid to school 1334 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:58,240 Speaker 1: through neighborhoods that have crackheads and coke heads tripped out 1335 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:03,799 Speaker 1: on public sleeping, spaces not public, sleeping just public, spaces 1336 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,600 Speaker 1: sidewalks and park benches and stuff like. That do you 1337 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 1: want do you want heroin, addicts you, know roaming your 1338 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 1: streets because that's what you that's what you. Have and 1339 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 1: the mayor at least now doesn't want to do anything about. 1340 01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 1: It she in, fact she wants to help you guys 1341 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:29,599 Speaker 1: quote get, help as opposed to taking those dangerous elements 1342 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,000 Speaker 1: and putting them in places that can't touch your child 1343 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 1: when you go to. School but, see here's the. PROBLEM 1344 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 1: i don't think the mayor Of seattle has. Kids and 1345 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 1: if you don't have, kids and the, left the left In, 1346 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 1: AMERICA i talk about this a. Lot you're gonna hear 1347 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,639 Speaker 1: me say it more in this coming. Year the left 1348 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 1: In america do not like. Kids they want to destroy. Children, 1349 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 1: actually there's a very negative impact that they want to 1350 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 1: leave on, children from from the desire to abort them 1351 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: before they're, born to the desire to keep things from 1352 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: their parents when they enter the school, system from the 1353 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,479 Speaker 1: desire to transify them and get them to think that 1354 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 1: they're born in the wrong, body something That god never 1355 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 1: could could possibly have. Created he didn't create these kids. 1356 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 1: Imperfectly he knows every ounce of who they. Are and 1357 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the more we try to Eliminate god from the, equation 1358 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 1: the more harm comes to, children. NonStop and the idea 1359 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,599 Speaker 1: that you should just have public drug use all throughout 1360 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 1: the city Of, seattle just do it. Publicly you, know 1361 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,479 Speaker 1: you used to, say, well this is Something i'm. DOING 1362 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 1: i need it for my own. PURPOSES i want to 1363 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,600 Speaker 1: feel a certain, way But i'm going to do it in, 1364 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,800 Speaker 1: private so that but he knows That i'm doing. It 1365 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 1: now it's all out in the. Open just do it 1366 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: right in the. Open just take the, drugs shoot, up 1367 01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,160 Speaker 1: take the, snort take the hit, off the, pipe off the. 1368 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:04,680 Speaker 1: Bong just just do it all in. Public and the 1369 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 1: and the damage that this is going to do to 1370 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,200 Speaker 1: the children is. Unestimable I'm kevin. Mccullor we'll see you next, 1371 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 1: time all, RIGHT m