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Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewett,

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Speaker 1: joined by Brett bar the host of Special of Port

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Speaker 1: America's anchorman Brett, we had the most unusual of press

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Speaker 1: conferences today. What did you make of that?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a president laying out what he sees

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Speaker 2: his accomplishments of one year. It was almost exactly one

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Speaker 2: year to the minute that he got inaugraded into his

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Speaker 2: second term as president. I think he spent a lot

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Speaker 2: of time on Minnesota and justifying what he sees of communication,

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Speaker 2: not focusing on the number of people criminals taken off

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Speaker 2: the streets in these ice operations. And you know, flipping

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Speaker 2: through that at the beginning of the news conference, obviously

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Speaker 2: a lot of questions about Greenland, and the one that

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Speaker 2: go to get Greenland? And he said, you'll find out,

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Speaker 2: you know, this ominous thing. And I think it all

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Speaker 2: leads up to, you know, his Davos speech this week

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Speaker 2: and meeting with those leaders. If I had to guess,

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Speaker 2: it's all a matter of negotiations and deal making, and

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Speaker 2: he's got a plan to deal with Greenland. I still,

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Speaker 2: to this day do not believe the US military is

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Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. I want to play

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Speaker 1: for you the question and answer on Iran, though, because

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Speaker 1: it didn't come up until very late in the press conference.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, I did the awful metrics of murdering

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Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people as a percentage proportion of your population.

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Speaker 1: It's worse than Tianneman Square. It's worse than ten seven,

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Speaker 1: it's worse than nine. So here's President Trump Brett getting

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Speaker 1: a question on that cut twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: There's a military option still on the table, and Kenny

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Speaker 4: Killing Iran has stopped.

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Speaker 5: And when we got to your Peace Council wish members

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Speaker 6: Are you from Iran?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: I covered the White House? Where are you from Palacina?

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Speaker 7: American?

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Speaker 8: So with Iran they were going to hang eight hundred

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Speaker 8: and thirty seven people, and I let him be known

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Speaker 8: that and we let them know that if that happens,

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Speaker 8: they decided not to do it.

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Speaker 6: They didn't hang the people.

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Speaker 8: I can't tell you what's going to happen in the future,

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Speaker 8: but supposedly they've taken that off the table.

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Speaker 6: But they were going to last week. They were going

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Speaker 8: They were going to hang I think eight hundred and

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Speaker 8: thirty seven people, and they didn't hang anybody. So we're

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Speaker 8: just going to have to see what happens with Iran.

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Speaker 8: Is the military option.

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Speaker 1: Over, so brettt They interrupted him when the press corps

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Speaker 1: or it usually does, when he said there's a military

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Speaker 1: option on the table, and then the shouting started. What

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Speaker 1: do you think is the military option still on the table?

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Speaker 2: I do think the military option is still on the table,

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Speaker 2: and I do think that they are monitoring the situation,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not I wouldn't be surprised that there's more

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Speaker 2: And I think that it's very possible that it's still

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Speaker 1: Likelier that he does it when he's at Davos, or

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Speaker 1: unlikelyer that he does it when he's at Davos. If

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Speaker 2: You don't know with Donald Trump, but you really don't.

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Speaker 2: The President likes the dramatic.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there would be a chance that would happened. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Never know, now, Brett, Today the markets at a very

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Speaker 1: bad day. The Dow is down one and three quarters point,

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Speaker 2: I think that the reaction to the Greenland tariff threat

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Speaker 4: Of the US.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it hasn't happened yet, but at least the

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Speaker 1: Scott Bessant was making the rounds today about Greenland, and

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Speaker 1: Scott Bessant, who is a superb guy who I don't

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Speaker 5: Things that are moving in a very positive way here

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Speaker 5: that passes. We don't believe that President Trump needs that authority,

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Speaker 4: And just to be clear that we have Europe.

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Speaker 5: Buying Russian oil still still four years later, they are

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Speaker 1: So Brett Behar he's talking to bring a Bariromo here,

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Speaker 1: and this is blunt talk to Europe. You're financing the

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's some of the messaging that's

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Speaker 2: get a very blunt speech from President Trump about putting

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Speaker 2: the squeeze on Russia. I don't know if it's going

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Speaker 2: to be jd Vance in Germany, but it's going to

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Speaker 2: the past, has led to Europe saying, Okay, let's do

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Speaker 2: a great position as far as negotiating on a number

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Speaker 1: Before absolutely not. Last question about the Vice president's first

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Speaker 1: I wrote for Fox News this morning he's done a

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Speaker 1: How do you assess jd. Vance's first year as the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he's definitely, you know, backed up the

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Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 2: There's you know, the political wins we're going to have

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Speaker 2: to see. It's all, you know, shaping up for twenty

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Speaker 2: So that's a big announcement heading into year two. And listen,

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Speaker 2: he's well positioned, but there are cross currents here on

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Always good to talk to you, Brett.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in during a very busy news day.

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Speaker 1: And this is a big day that Welcome back to America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, joined by Josh Holmes of The Ruthless Podcast. Josh,

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Speaker 1: did you watch that game last night?

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Speaker 9: Did I ever?

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Speaker 4: Hugh?

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Speaker 9: What a story?

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Speaker 3: You know, one of the most improbable national champions if

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Speaker 3: you look at the history of Indiana football. But what

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Speaker 3: a great story, what a great coach, just an all

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Speaker 1: The Mendoza family inspiring Americans like to be inspired. I

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Speaker 1: it's an inspiring story that dad sits with mom because

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Speaker 1: she can't stand up because she has the MS, and

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Speaker 1: the kid comes out of nowhere and he's like, too

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Speaker 1: good to be true, isn't he? Josh? Oh, totally?

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Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but that fourth and five play

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Speaker 3: or ends up breaking a tackle and taking into the

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Speaker 3: end zone. We're gonna be watching that twenty five years

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Speaker 3: from now. That's like goes down in the lore of

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are happy about this. There are

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Speaker 1: two people who are happiest that they won. I suggest

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Speaker 1: to you it is the offensive tackle who twitched and

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Speaker 10: Second and six, and that the second one is the

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Speaker 1: Those two Hoosiers are the most relieved Hoosiers in the universe.

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Speaker 4: No kidding.

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Speaker 9: Can you imagine Coach Signetti.

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Speaker 3: On that situation if it went the wrong way? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there would be some lonely barns in Indiana.

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Speaker 4: I know that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know how you worked out? You know, are

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Speaker 1: you and your fellows interact? The Hoosiers will get together

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Speaker 1: every five.

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Speaker 10: Ten years, and those two guys are going to hear

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Speaker 1: Right, It almost cost us the Natty. Now, Josh, I

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Speaker 1: got some hard questions for you. First of all, when

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Speaker 3: Is this a college football attack or a Minnesota attack?

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Speaker 3: It's it's a tough time, tough time to be from

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Speaker 3: difficult as to defending the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: But you know, everything, every every year is a promise.

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Speaker 10: But this is going to turn into and all all

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Speaker 10: points bulletin on things Minnesota, because that's what the President

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Speaker 10: turned his presser into.

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Speaker 1: Were you watching it?

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Speaker 9: Yes he did, I did, I did see that. And

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Speaker 9: you know what, Look, I'm glad he is. This is

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Speaker 3: I'm from there, and it's unrecognizable what's happening downtown. This

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Speaker 9: I mean nobody, I know, nobody, I grew up with, nobody.

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Speaker 3: I've interact and I keep pretty close with a whole

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Speaker 3: of this is about, right, I mean, you've got paid agitators,

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Speaker 3: apparently they're okay with eight billion dollars being stolen out

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Speaker 6: Cup of the lines. Criminals.

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Speaker 6: I could do I could do thousands.

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Speaker 1: your heart. Josh, I mean ten thousand criminals. That's a lot.

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Speaker 9: This president's pace of play is legendary.

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Speaker 9: They don't like particularly conflict.

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Speaker 3: And they're not you know, they don't know who to

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Speaker 9: Is that cool? Are we cool with these people continuing

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Speaker 1: Of course you're not.

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Speaker 9: That's what you have a government for, what you hope

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Speaker 1: Josh. I've been going to Minnesota since you were in

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Well, I still think ninety percent of it is Hugh.

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Speaker 3: But you've got this downtown culture, You've got a city

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Speaker 1: I got also, is it going to slide over to

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no amount of pain that can happen

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Speaker 9: I mean, I have seen it all on that the Gophers. Look, hey,

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Speaker 9: Maybe give them something for you.

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Speaker 1: Were you alive for Oddman shot? Breaking my heart? No,

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Speaker 9: The same and it continues to end the same. I'm

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Speaker 1: Point ex the question we got two minutes, President Trump

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Speaker 3: Expect, Yeah, I think you got to quantify what's better

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Speaker 9: As you're ever going to do, and I think the

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Speaker 9: In terms of the politics. They're really going to have

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Speaker 3: All of the headwinds, the historical headwinds, and everything else

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Speaker 3: the fodder. If you just stop and take inventory every

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Speaker 3: once in a while, this is the alternative, and you

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Speaker 3: see a plan out in Minnesota, see a plan out

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I try to explain that to a TDS or yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Josh Holmes of the podcast I hope your fellow colleague

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Speaker 10: You're out there alone on an igloo, because on an iceberg,

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Speaker 1: We love Minnesota. We just want to see it returned

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Speaker 1: to the icy roots from which you came. Welcome back, America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, joined by Byron York. He is the

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Speaker 1: Also Fox News contributor Byron. That was quite the press

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I was just chatting with Dwayne before

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, and the first few months, certainly he

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Speaker 8: Cutnumber nineteen, foll cup of the line. Criminals. They're not

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Speaker 8: what's the number character ten thousand, ten thousand criminals? And

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Speaker 1: So Byron, that is a great clip for the campaign.

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Speaker 12: Yes, it does, and how can it be that all

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Speaker 12: Well, they got to They have a significant crime rate,

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Speaker 1: Seeing, and it will remain that way, and it might

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, remember back to all the worries about

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Speaker 12: I saw Scott Besthen said on Fox Business here that

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Speaker 1: There and the market's pretty frothy too. Exit Question Byron

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Speaker 1: york I wrote today for Fox. It is about the

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Speaker 1: president's first year, but also about the vice president's first year.

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Speaker 1: He did a hundred of pearentss, he did fifty interviews.

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Speaker 1: Cleanton went on this program. It's very accessible. He's not

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Speaker 1: missed stereos. The second lady is pregnant again. That's great

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Speaker 1: news for the dancers. But everyone seems to attribute to

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Speaker 12: You know, I attribute this First of all, you're right,

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Speaker 12: but I attribute this to the simple black and white

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Speaker 12: the next term, and that Vance seems to have consolidated

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Speaker 12: clearly the leading candidate to replace his president who's not

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Speaker 1: For at least two more years, Harriet, until nomination is

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Speaker 1: Don't forget My code is Hugh. Welcome back America. That

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Speaker 1: music means David Drucker is in the house. He is

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Speaker 1: is also a regular visitor here to the Hugh Hewitt

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Speaker 1: Show for many, many years. David, I've been covering politics

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Speaker 1: on airs in nineteen ninety and a lot of anniversaries

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Speaker 1: have come and gone in that but this is the

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Speaker 1: first anniversary of Donald Trump's return to power, and it's unique.

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Speaker 1: How do you rate his first year back?

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Speaker 13: Well, I mean, I think we have to look at

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Speaker 13: you know, where he is with voters.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's just that's my general lane, if.

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Speaker 13: You will, well and look, I think if you look

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Speaker 13: they're excited for more. And obviously Democrats have the opposite view.

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Speaker 13: And independence, it's a mixed bag, although his numbers of

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Speaker 13: independence are.

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Speaker 7: Down right now.

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Speaker 13: You know what I would say is I'd say something

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Speaker 13: a little bit maybe different to add to the conversation here,

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Speaker 13: which is, you know, when I was when I was

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Speaker 13: interviewing voters during the twenty four campaign, there were some

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Speaker 13: say at his campaign rallies and said, yes, please give

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Speaker 13: me that. And there were others that said, well, I

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Speaker 13: don't want all of that. I only want some of that.

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Speaker 13: And I bet you I'm not going to get all

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Speaker 13: of that. I'm only going to get the sum that

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Speaker 13: I want. And I think you know, one thing that's

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Speaker 13: been born out over the past year is that the

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Speaker 13: things he talked about doing, he's by and large either

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Speaker 13: done or tried to do, and so in that regard,

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Speaker 13: he's not just sort of unique.

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Speaker 1: But it's an.

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Speaker 13: Interesting dilemma for certain or a certain percentage of Republicans,

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Speaker 13: not a large percentage, but a but a not necessarily

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Speaker 13: insignificant percentage.

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Speaker 1: I want to play for you a cut of his

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Speaker 1: just concluded press conference, David cut nineteen queued up if

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Speaker 1: you would, Harley and Adam, because in it, in this

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Speaker 1: cut he talks about Minnesota, and the voice here, of course,

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Speaker 1: is Caroline Levity's press secretary, Cut nineteen Belne criminals.

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Speaker 8: They're not going to be good, They're not going to

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Speaker 8: be well behaved. Here I could do I could do thousands.

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Speaker 8: We had over three thousand in the last fairly short Well,

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Speaker 8: just in Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: What's the number care?

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Speaker 11: Ten thousand criminals arrested in Minnesota?

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Speaker 8: Ten thousand criminals and these are serious?

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Speaker 1: How about David ruckerd ten thousand criminals arrested in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: alone is a pretty big number. Are you startled by that?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I don't know if I'm struggled by it

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Speaker 13: or not. We'll have to see if the numbers bear out.

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Speaker 13: But let's say that they bear out, there's a lot

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Speaker 13: of support for the president's efforts to deport illegal immigrant criminals.

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Speaker 13: The problem he's having politically is that citizens are getting

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Speaker 13: that somewhat during the news conference and the videos. I

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Speaker 13: to illegal immigrant criminals, wouldn't be that concerned. But there

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Speaker 13: are a lot of other people getting caught up in this,

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Speaker 13: and so that makes it just again a politically mixed

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Speaker 1: Do you think it makes it it politically? I like

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Speaker 1: to review for everyone the numbers in nineteen fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: the second mid term for Dwight Eisenhower, he lost forty

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Speaker 1: nine seats in NOUS Under Nixon Ford the second mid

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Speaker 1: term in nineteen seventy four, they lost forty eight seats

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Speaker 1: in NOWS. Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty six only lost

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six lost thirty seats in the House.

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Speaker 1: So the lowest five in the highest forty eight, they

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Speaker 1: don't win. You don't win. The second midterm, David, do you.

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Speaker 7: Not usually?

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Speaker 13: No, Now, Bill Clinton did have a good second midterm

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Speaker 13: voters determined that the impeachment led by Speaker Gingrich was overreach.

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Speaker 13: That's just what we know because of what happened. And

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Speaker 13: so look, when you're in control of the White House,

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Speaker 13: you're always on defense in a midterm election.

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Speaker 7: That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 13: It doesn't make Donald Trump unique, It doesn't make his

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Speaker 13: policies uniquely rejected or anything of that magnitude. And of

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Speaker 13: course they haven't happened yet, so we'll have to see

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Speaker 13: what happens. I just was in discussions about his immigration policies.

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Speaker 13: That's where he has always been the strongest, and I

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Speaker 13: durably approved of, if you will. All right, And so

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Speaker 13: the surprise for a lot of voters is that more

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Speaker 13: than just criminals are being caught up up in these efforts,

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Speaker 13: and people don't like that, and they don't like the

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Speaker 13: idea of having to show their papers, and so on

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Speaker 13: the one hand, potentially a lot of illegal immigrant criminals arrested.

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Speaker 13: That's a good thing that should happen, and that will

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Speaker 13: continue to happen. But how these things are done matters

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Speaker 13: a lot to the American people. It's why we've always

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Speaker 7: You can't just arrest a bad guy. You've got to

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Speaker 7: have a warrant it. Hugh, you're a lawyer. You know

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Speaker 7: that's better than me.

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Speaker 13: But I mean it matters to people in terms of

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Speaker 1: Now, what also matters to them is affordability at buying

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Speaker 1: a house, affordability at the gas station, affordability in the

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Speaker 1: grocery store. He's done well, but he hasn't done well enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't think to make people believe it's appreciably different.

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Speaker 1: But he got time. This doesn't lock in until June.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to stay laser focused on the economy,

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Speaker 1: but things like Iran keep coming up, and I want

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Speaker 1: to finish there. They murdered fifteen thousand of their people.

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Speaker 1: On a proportionate basis, that's bigger than Tiannem and Square.

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Speaker 1: It's bigger than ten seven and Israel bigger than nine

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Speaker 1: Will he?

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Speaker 7: Well? He well, I wouldn't. I definitely wouldn't rule it out.

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Speaker 13: The President said he would do something if people died,

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Speaker 13: if people were murdered by the regime, and so there's

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Speaker 13: a you know, there's some level of credibility issues there.

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Speaker 13: But he's got time, and you know, let's see what

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Speaker 13: he does. And I would just say the challenge for

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Speaker 13: to a place where that's all he talks about. And

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Speaker 13: that's very hard for him to do. He likes to

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Speaker 13: talk about a million things all the time. When it

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Speaker 13: the kind of thing that doesn't. What he does on Iran, though,

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Speaker 1: When you look at the Senate, John Houston is a

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Speaker 1: target in Ohio, it's pretty good candidate US and Colin's

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Speaker 1: a target in Maine. She's a wonderful candidate. Tough race

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Speaker 1: in North Carolina between Roy Cooper, a formerly popular governor,

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Speaker 1: Georgia where John Oza, what's your spider sense on the

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Speaker 1: United States Senate?

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Speaker 13: Well, look, I think of the election today, I think

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Speaker 13: Republicans would retain control of the Senate even if they

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Speaker 7: But this thing is still a moving target.

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Speaker 13: And of course, in twenty twenty two, I thought Republicans

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Speaker 13: would flip control of the Senate and I was wrong.

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Speaker 13: So I'm trying to be very cautious here. We need

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Speaker 13: to see how some of these primaries play out. I

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Speaker 13: least very at least how resources are going to need

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Speaker 13: to be directed.

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Speaker 7: On the Republican side, I.

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Speaker 1: Agree that if they nominate John Cornyn, it's a layout.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm for John Cornyn. And Dan Sullivan is

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Speaker 1: about as good a senator as anyone could hope for

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Speaker 1: for the state of Alaska. But they do have that

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Speaker 1: unusual voting system rank choice, So we got to have

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Speaker 6: Ten thousand criminals and oh we are joined.

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Speaker 1: Josh Holmes from Minnesota in our one, James Lilac humrous

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Speaker 1: extraordinary joins us now James Lylyacs dot substack dot com.

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Speaker 1: I've posted his substack address, James. When the President got

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Speaker 1: done with Minnesota after twenty minutes, I think the Chamber

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Speaker 1: of Commerce basically quit. You're not going to get anyone

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Speaker 1: to go to MINUTESA ten thousand criminals arrested.

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Speaker 11: Oh that's today, that's ten thousand late. That's one for

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Speaker 11: each one of the lakes that we have. Yes, but

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Speaker 11: that's great, isn't it. I mean it says somehow that

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Speaker 11: actually the state is in criminal lais sake. Now, the

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Speaker 11: people will dispute and say a lot of those ten

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Speaker 11: thousand people that are talking about aren't criminals in the

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Speaker 11: crime sense, the criminals in the sense that they were

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Speaker 11: here illegally, but they were circulated by Homeland Security. The

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Speaker 11: other week a list of thirty people bad hombrace, bad

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Speaker 11: bad guys who've done awful stuff to women and children

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Speaker 11: that they'd apprehended and gotten out.

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Speaker 4: It's odd that there is this defense of.

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Speaker 11: The whole notion that these people should be sort of

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Speaker 11: left in place, or I don't know what exactly the

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Speaker 11: protesters want to do with them, because they know that

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Speaker 11: some of the people on whose behalf they are protesting

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Speaker 11: are really, really awful people who oughtn't to be here,

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Speaker 11: and the crimes that people have suffered while these people

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Speaker 11: have been here would not have happened if these people

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Speaker 11: had not been deported. Long ago, I was reading a

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Speaker 11: subject by a former colleague, good guy, who was talking.

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Speaker 4: About how strange it is to live.

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Speaker 11: Around here with all of this going on, and yet

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Speaker 11: your daily life is rather ordinary, which is true for

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Speaker 11: just about everybody around here.

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Speaker 4: He'd gotten to.

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Speaker 11: Them all of America with his kids, who were having

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Speaker 11: a great time. In the back of his head was

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Speaker 11: thinking about what the city had become, and then his

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Speaker 11: wife told him there's been another shooting, and they contemplated

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Speaker 11: whether or not they should leave the mall. Now, I like,

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Speaker 11: I say, I like this guy, you got no brief

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Speaker 11: against them, he's a good fellow. But this is a

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Speaker 11: shooting that happened after a couple of our Agua guys,

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Speaker 11: the you know, the Venezuelan and wonderful fellows. He had

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Speaker 11: attacked an ice officer, and the ice officer had shot him.

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Speaker 11: This is what had made their nerves. It's getting worse,

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Speaker 11: it's compacting, it's accelerating. There's been another shooting. When the

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Speaker 11: fact of the matter is if the gang member that

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Speaker 11: got shot had shot another gang member or had winged

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Speaker 11: a child in the process of having some dispute over

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Speaker 11: the territory for child sex trafficking, Nobody an egan in

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Speaker 11: a far flung suburb would have considered leaving them all

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Speaker 11: of America because of it. If it happens off stage,

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Speaker 11: off camera, to the rest of these people, that's kind of.

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Speaker 4: The sunk cost of living in a city.

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Speaker 11: But when you actually go out and do something about

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Speaker 11: these people, there's the whistles blown, there's the flags, there's

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Speaker 11: the guys with the rifles, there's all of this stuff.

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Speaker 11: And I'm not sure exactly how it ends here, James.

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Speaker 1: You live how long in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 11: Since nineteen seventy six with a three and a half

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Speaker 11: year two our duty in Washington.

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Speaker 1: By smokes at fifty years with a three and a

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Speaker 1: half sentence, a time off for good behavior, and inside

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Speaker 1: the Beltway in those fifty years. Do you do you

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Speaker 1: think it's a different place now than when you first

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Speaker 1: moved there in terms of fear factor.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, in terms of fear fact, well, yes and no.

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Speaker 11: I mean when I moved here, the city was in

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Speaker 11: the seventies slump in the eighties had boomed. It was wonderful,

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Speaker 11: It was great. Downtown was vibrants and robusts, as they'd

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Speaker 11: like to say. The buildings were packed, the stores were packed.

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Speaker 11: It was a great place. And then to begin to

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Speaker 11: decline began in the nineties when we had a gang

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Speaker 11: influx and we had the reputation of being murder Apolis,

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Speaker 11: which is mostly because the gangs were shooting at each

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Speaker 11: other and killing cops and the rest of it. And

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Speaker 11: then they got their hands around that by a variety

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Speaker 11: of ways, and it seemed to get in It got better.

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Speaker 11: The nineties receded in the mirror. The unsafe feeling that

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Speaker 11: we had in the nineties was gone in the twenties

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Speaker 11: and the tens. But after twenty twenty, the distinction has

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Speaker 11: been pronounced. Now it's better now that it was in

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty. There was a time after George Floyd that

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Speaker 11: the police just simply backed off did nothing stop nobody, cars.

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Speaker 4: Going through red lights, murder all over the place.

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Speaker 11: Everybody knew it, but the city on itself, every neighborhood

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Speaker 11: did not feel saturated with fear your reputation.

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Speaker 1: Earlier, I went there at least annually in the Oats

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Speaker 1: and the team almost the first two decades of the

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Speaker 1: Hugh Hewitt Show got started in July ten, two thousand,

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Speaker 1: had a lovely time. Walked around Saint Paul at night.

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Speaker 1: Ye went to the Saint Paul Opera across the Green

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Speaker 1: from the Saint Paul Hotel downtown Minneapolis. You know where

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Speaker 1: the Symphony Hall is, and I walked around there with

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Speaker 1: the Northern gience. Bloggers, we go all, it's the safest

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Speaker 1: place in America. Has that changed? Is that vibe gone?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? The vibe is the vibe is it definitely is.

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Speaker 11: Part of it is that when you have less foot

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Speaker 11: traffic in downtown, you're just going to have the mystery

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Speaker 11: and its are going to be a little bit more obvious.

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Speaker 4: There's a really vital entertainment district there.

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Speaker 11: They get some spiky people who like to settle the

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Speaker 11: just speats ballistically, but it is not a dystopia. It

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Speaker 11: is not a place where there's gunfire and you know,

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Speaker 11: every street corner downtown and it's just hollowed out, and

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Speaker 11: they're fentinyl zombies staggering about it. It's not fans Francisco,

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Speaker 11: but it's demonstrably worse. And one of the reasons that

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Speaker 11: it feels so tragic and so keenly felt is that

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Speaker 11: it was so good.

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Speaker 4: It was a great good place.

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Speaker 11: And all of this's happened has been happening, not by design,

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Speaker 11: but just simply by the indifference of the people who

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Speaker 11: know what needs to be done but refuse to do

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Speaker 11: any well.

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Speaker 1: Break that brings up to Jacob Pry, how do you

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Speaker 1: like your mayor sounding like John Calhoun in a nullification

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Speaker 1: debate to the thirties.

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Speaker 4: I know, it's extraordinary, and I have to remind you

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Speaker 4: that he was the moderate choice.

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Speaker 11: He was the guy that everybody sort of that a

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Speaker 11: lot of people held their nose and voted for because

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Speaker 11: the alternative would have been ten times worse. So, yes,

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Speaker 11: when he gets up and talks about having the police

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Speaker 11: fights fights ice, and you see the police chiefs standing

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Speaker 11: there like the rocket Gibraltar, with only his eyes going

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Speaker 11: up spock like to indicate the curiosity of that sentiment. Ah, yeah,

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Speaker 11: I don't think it's going to come to that. For

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Speaker 11: one thing, you know, they've lost a huge number of

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Speaker 11: police who simply took advantage of the Family Leave Act

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Speaker 11: that's just been signed here, a new wonderful invitation to fraud,

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Speaker 11: and they said, I'm out of here.

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Speaker 4: For X number of months. This isn't worth it.

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Speaker 11: So yes, once again, we're probably understaffed in terms of

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Speaker 11: police just when we need the most.

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Speaker 1: James thirty second, what has happened to the schools? I

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Speaker 1: used to go and narrate the school concert right at

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Speaker 1: Symphony Hall. You narrated it for the kids.

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Speaker 4: Did they still do those Minnesota? They do a Minnesota

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Speaker 4: youth symphonies. I used to do that for twenty five years, right.

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Speaker 11: The cream of the crop of all of the schools

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Speaker 11: around here, putting their finest students.

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Speaker 4: Some of the schools are still great.

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Speaker 11: The place to which I sent my daughter, a public

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Speaker 11: school up the street for many years, was Fann is

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Speaker 11: still fantastic. But at this point, you know, when it

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Speaker 11: comes to fixing the schools, that's like third or fourth

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Speaker 11: down the list right now in the Minneapolis imagination.

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Speaker 4: If we solve everything else.

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Speaker 11: We'll get to that and say, oh right, we got

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Speaker 11: that school problem too. Oh of a joy to the

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Speaker 11: in urban center in the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: Wilax is our Twin Cities correspondent, without whom we would

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Speaker 1: be lost. Go and read him at James Lilacs dot

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Speaker 1: subseact dot com. I posted the link over at X

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Speaker 1: Thank you James from Dystopia. That was Lilac. Come right

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Speaker 1: back to the you here at ship