1
00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,080
Speaker 1: Life audio.

2
00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,000
Speaker 2: Today, I don't talk about that. John prepares for his

3
00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and adds a middle initial to his books. Meanwhile,

4
00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,640
Speaker 2: I channel my inner Chris Farley for a church skit

5
00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,840
Speaker 2: and tell you the tale of the Spaghetti treat hoax,

6
00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,919
Speaker 2: plus a conversation about love and the Gospel and why

7
00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,040
Speaker 2: how we present it shows whether or not we really

8
00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,640
Speaker 2: have it. Today's episode is not sponsored by air Travel.

9
00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,120
Speaker 2: Soar through the clouds like a bird, but only after

10
00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,920
Speaker 2: you wait in this line for two hours and we

11
00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,680
Speaker 2: rummaged through your bags. The first a word from our

12
00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,479
Speaker 2: actual sponsor.

13
00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,720
Speaker 1: What's upb out there? I'm John, This is Johnny. Let's

14
00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720
Speaker 1: talk about that. Your favorite neighborhood podcast.

15
00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,640
Speaker 2: We're just we're providing a service if you will. Yeah,

16
00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,519
Speaker 2: we're good people.

17
00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,200
Speaker 1: Well, well we're people.

18
00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is a big week for you as a

19
00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,240
Speaker 2: church leader. Easter Week. It is big one. That's when

20
00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,560
Speaker 2: you get your creastors in here.

21
00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you people, you probably hurt us. We it's our

22
00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,360
Speaker 1: big joke around here because in the church world. Yeah,

23
00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280
Speaker 1: it's a common saying in the hell.

24
00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess, guys, this is our super Bowl. Yeah, yeah,

25
00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:15,720
Speaker 2: I think I remember this.

26
00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,319
Speaker 1: We don't say it, but yeah, we've heard it said

27
00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,319
Speaker 1: so many times, like this is our super Bowl, and

28
00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,280
Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, like the resurrection of the Son of

29
00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,000
Speaker 1: God that redeemed all of creation and humanity, right, and

30
00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,800
Speaker 1: it is progressively doing so as compared to the largest

31
00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,080
Speaker 1: football game in America.

32
00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,679
Speaker 2: I think the idea of it is that if you're

33
00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,840
Speaker 2: gonna have it, like church has become more of like

34
00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,720
Speaker 2: a show to people, so like you're gonna say, this

35
00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,640
Speaker 2: is the big this is the spectacle, this is the

36
00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,560
Speaker 2: time when we really need to try to retain these people.

37
00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,280
Speaker 2: So like, okay, so they can give an example, so

38
00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,880
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Even casual fans watch the super Bowl. Yeah,

39
00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,280
Speaker 2: so my wife will watch the super Bowl. Yeah, could

40
00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,400
Speaker 2: not care less about NFL football, but she'll watch the

41
00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,920
Speaker 2: super Bowl. So I think that's that's probably the meaning

42
00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,600
Speaker 2: behind it is like if we're going to ever get

43
00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,960
Speaker 2: these casual fans to become real bands of Jesus, we

44
00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,720
Speaker 2: got to get them on this Sunday.

45
00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,200
Speaker 1: I know this, I know the meaning.

46
00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,240
Speaker 2: I just just it is a little offensive. Well said

47
00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,440
Speaker 2: that about the super Bowl. Guys, this is our super Bowl.

48
00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,480
Speaker 1: No, this is our Easter.

49
00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Easter.

50
00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,360
Speaker 1: I want to if they ever have me come speak

51
00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,840
Speaker 1: to a team for the Super Bowls. Like, guys, I

52
00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,359
Speaker 1: just want you to know this is our No. I

53
00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,960
Speaker 1: mean it's one of those like I know what they're doing.

54
00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,240
Speaker 1: I have this and you know this. I have this

55
00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,480
Speaker 1: complicated relationship with the idea of church growth. Did I

56
00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,640
Speaker 1: ever send you the thing that it gave me on

57
00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,120
Speaker 1: LinkedIn that day? I don't know, you know, because it

58
00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,000
Speaker 1: has all your skills you put in and everything when

59
00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,520
Speaker 1: I've built the profile and years ago.

60
00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,200
Speaker 2: It sent me a thing because I'm as an.

61
00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,560
Speaker 1: Executive pastor and collaborative writer and all these different things

62
00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,560
Speaker 1: on there. And it said, and people can give you skills.

63
00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,720
Speaker 1: People can like they can justify or they can quote.

64
00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,120
Speaker 1: I think John's a good speaker or whatever.

65
00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,240
Speaker 2: Oh I see, yeah, they're giving you like recommendations.

66
00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,320
Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't screenshot it. Yeah, because it said,

67
00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,760
Speaker 1: John Driver, you are missing one critical skill church growth. Yeah,

68
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,079
Speaker 1: And I was like, boy, am I ever how did

69
00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,040
Speaker 1: you know? But like just that idea?

70
00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,239
Speaker 2: Who else was Corinth? No, I don't know, I don't know,

71
00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,280
Speaker 2: don't I never went to the church at Corinth. But yeah,

72
00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,200
Speaker 2: well it's Sunday School numbers were atrocious.

73
00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,720
Speaker 1: I just don't want to like I want to. I

74
00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,200
Speaker 1: want to grow, yeah, but I really want to be

75
00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,160
Speaker 1: authentic in the Gospel more than I want to grow now.

76
00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,960
Speaker 1: I really really do. And that's it's easy to say

77
00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,960
Speaker 1: for a guy, is that we don't grow much anymore.

78
00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,520
Speaker 1: I can say that, but we grow and then it

79
00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,760
Speaker 1: changes and people move away, or things happen, or they

80
00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,440
Speaker 1: get mad and they don't like her. Whatever that happens,

81
00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,280
Speaker 1: it's just church.

82
00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,640
Speaker 2: With I got mad and didn't like you.

83
00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal. I don't want to worry

84
00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,320
Speaker 1: about that anymore. It's what it is, you know. And

85
00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,960
Speaker 1: all right, I want to worry about Johnny Salvage. That's

86
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,880
Speaker 1: the real.

87
00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,920
Speaker 2: Probab that said come visit this Easter. And John's like, yeah,

88
00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,520
Speaker 2: I give up.

89
00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't even care, No, I di I care. I

90
00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,160
Speaker 1: just that's that's what's crazy. It's like I talked to

91
00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,800
Speaker 1: the I talked to the staff a lot about the

92
00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,800
Speaker 1: the parish model throughout history. Be in your community, Be

93
00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,240
Speaker 1: a place where the poor are fed, where the Gospel

94
00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,680
Speaker 1: is preached. Where there when your kids are born, we help.

95
00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,280
Speaker 1: Whenever it's time to re commit someone's body to the ground.

96
00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,360
Speaker 1: We're there when you're in trouble, and we helped create

97
00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,400
Speaker 1: community and we all kind of live in that community

98
00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,440
Speaker 1: together now, don't. I don't know if some you know,

99
00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,120
Speaker 1: middle aged, I mean, I'm like in the dark ages

100
00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,880
Speaker 1: or whatever, if they had a perish somewhere in the

101
00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,640
Speaker 1: middle of England, if they were really that worried about

102
00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,080
Speaker 1: their parish being bigger than the villages perish one town

103
00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:42,720
Speaker 1: over or not.

104
00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,880
Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine because I mean, yeah, the church

105
00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,040
Speaker 2: culture has changed so much, but yeah, was there that

106
00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,560
Speaker 2: exceptionalism where you're like, we have to be doing this

107
00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,520
Speaker 2: better than the next person. It seems like with human

108
00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,719
Speaker 2: nature it would have happened.

109
00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:55,479
Speaker 1: I don't know.

110
00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,120
Speaker 2: Did Paul ever write about that the other churches like

111
00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,479
Speaker 2: stop competing with each other?

112
00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,200
Speaker 1: Not well, I mean, yes, dissensions and jealousies and factions.

113
00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,480
Speaker 1: He talked. It was more theological dissensions than it was

114
00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,880
Speaker 1: based upon the quantifiable outcome.

115
00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,279
Speaker 2: It wasn't like him calling out emphasis but like, yeah,

116
00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,679
Speaker 2: you're growing, but you're not doing it the right way.

117
00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,320
Speaker 2: Like you're growing. But yeah, dude, this is all he

118
00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400
Speaker 2: was always That's the thing.

119
00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,360
Speaker 1: Was only one church in those towns, right, and then

120
00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,320
Speaker 1: the home church is as much a model as anything.

121
00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:29,560
Speaker 2: You know.

122
00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,520
Speaker 1: That's something by the way that Francis Chan, I mean,

123
00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, he was a megachurch guy. I love Francis Chan,

124
00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,040
Speaker 1: and he wrote a book called Crazy Love that was

125
00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:44,720
Speaker 1: like a huge bestseller. He went on that megachurch pastor

126
00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,080
Speaker 1: journey a little bit, and he's in California. And of

127
00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,400
Speaker 1: course I've written for a lot of megachurch pastors and

128
00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,880
Speaker 1: so've I've been around that world a lot, and.

129
00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,200
Speaker 2: He really he just he walked away.

130
00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,080
Speaker 1: If only guy wanted to be done with that and

131
00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,680
Speaker 1: went to a homeh church model, yeah, and decided, I mean,

132
00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,160
Speaker 1: if you really talk to him or listen to what

133
00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,880
Speaker 1: he says, there's just he I don't know. And I

134
00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,800
Speaker 1: know megachurch pastors at the time that were like on

135
00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,800
Speaker 1: the one guy that I knew real well, and he's like,

136
00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,279
Speaker 1: I think Francis just didn't get it. We can we

137
00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,760
Speaker 1: can have this feel with this good community within Mega

138
00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,080
Speaker 1: and I believe that everybody's called the different things.

139
00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's okay. I would never just throw everybody

140
00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,640
Speaker 2: in the same pot. That's just because they're a large

141
00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,760
Speaker 2: church that they're doing corporate Christianity and it's it's not

142
00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,680
Speaker 2: the same, or it's they don't care about the people.

143
00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,080
Speaker 1: They're better at the growth side of church than I am.

144
00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,800
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that. We have different games.

145
00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,560
Speaker 2: I've been in some big churches that really do care

146
00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,720
Speaker 2: about the people, and I've seen I mean, I've been

147
00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,120
Speaker 2: in megachurches where I was in meetings before I was

148
00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,880
Speaker 2: doing a big event for them, and they were like

149
00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,680
Speaker 2: weeping about like baptisms that it just happened. They were

150
00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,840
Speaker 2: like so dialed in. But I've also seen the corporate

151
00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,520
Speaker 2: side of it that's gross, and I wish that I'd

152
00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,920
Speaker 2: seen some things I wish I hadn't seen too well.

153
00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,880
Speaker 1: Again, the church. I had a lot of friends down

154
00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,200
Speaker 1: in Dallas at Watermark Church. I mean that church is

155
00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,400
Speaker 1: more committed tommunity and transformation in the community and serving

156
00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,719
Speaker 1: the poor. I mean then, I mean, and they're huge

157
00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,560
Speaker 1: and they're twenty thousand people, but they had, you know,

158
00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,480
Speaker 1: they they had the right emphasis and the right things.

159
00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,360
Speaker 1: It taught us a lot.

160
00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, It's just one of those things.

161
00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,400
Speaker 1: Johnny. It's kind of like I could, I can, I

162
00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,760
Speaker 1: can stop writing because I worry about honey, I sell, Yeah,

163
00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,520
Speaker 1: or I can try to write the best that I

164
00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,560
Speaker 1: can and know that that I get to I get

165
00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,000
Speaker 1: to do that.

166
00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,040
Speaker 2: And that's what I feel about pastors. Better to write

167
00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,040
Speaker 2: for yourself and have no public than to write for

168
00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,920
Speaker 2: the public and have no sense of yourself. Wow, like that?

169
00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:35,480
Speaker 1: Who was that?

170
00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,640
Speaker 2: I can't remember that. It might be caurek a guard Okay,

171
00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,320
Speaker 2: one of those.

172
00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

173
00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,360
Speaker 2: Uh, And that might not be necessarily be a ministry

174
00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,080
Speaker 2: model because you're supposed to be writing for other people.

175
00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,760
Speaker 2: Technically you're writing with them in mind. Yeah, but you're

176
00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,280
Speaker 2: writing in other words. Don't change who you are just

177
00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,920
Speaker 2: to get a public, right, don't You got stuff on

178
00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,760
Speaker 2: your screen that's not you had the what was that?

179
00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,000
Speaker 2: But I hope it wasn't secret top secret things John's

180
00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,720
Speaker 2: got zooming in on the video. John had the screen,

181
00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,960
Speaker 2: our our logos screen on our video.

182
00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840
Speaker 1: And that's always funny because people always let people when

183
00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,880
Speaker 1: we first started songwriting, you need to get this on letterhead.

184
00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,480
Speaker 1: Someone will steal your song. And I was like, even

185
00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,040
Speaker 1: back then, I think I knew no one's gonna steal this.

186
00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that good one. Come on, if I

187
00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:16,760
Speaker 2: think it's good.

188
00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,600
Speaker 1: But two, wouldn't it be the best thing that ever

189
00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,520
Speaker 1: happened to us if we had something worth stealing.

190
00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,680
Speaker 2: I saw this tweet about Easter Week at a church

191
00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,800
Speaker 2: and they were like, it was funny to me, and

192
00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,440
Speaker 2: I wanted to say, this is why I brought it

193
00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,840
Speaker 2: up to you today. They said, this is where you

194
00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,720
Speaker 2: find out if you're on the A team or the

195
00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,080
Speaker 2: B team worship wise, because if you know, if you

196
00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,840
Speaker 2: don't get the invite to do Easter, you're like, boy,

197
00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,600
Speaker 2: but you guys have a pretty slim You guys have

198
00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,160
Speaker 2: like a nice skeleton career anyway, So it's like all

199
00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,360
Speaker 2: hands on deck, right.

200
00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,040
Speaker 1: No, we have we have three bass players.

201
00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have one drummer. If you're the third choice, buddy,

202
00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,520
Speaker 2: you need to step it up. Well we have.

203
00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,319
Speaker 1: We can now bring our other drummer back up from

204
00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,079
Speaker 1: children's because we have. We chatted to the staff and so.

205
00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,000
Speaker 2: A children's drummer. He's a little boy.

206
00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:00,960
Speaker 1: He's just he's at.

207
00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,880
Speaker 2: He does. He has no gift to bring. Literally, he's

208
00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,040
Speaker 2: that bad. He has no gift, no gift at all.

209
00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,959
Speaker 2: He has no gift for drumming. Honestly, I don't.

210
00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,400
Speaker 1: Know are you gonna be here?

211
00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,960
Speaker 2: No, I just this is like a tiny break in

212
00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,920
Speaker 2: our schedule, and so we're going to take a little trip,

213
00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,080
Speaker 2: take a little trip. Hey.

214
00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,839
Speaker 1: Do you know who didn't take a little trip out

215
00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,960
Speaker 1: of town when they were tired around Eastern Jeez? His

216
00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,320
Speaker 1: name was Jesus, and.

217
00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,560
Speaker 2: You know the little trip he took. He went to

218
00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880
Speaker 2: Hell and fought the devil and got the keys to death,

219
00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:38,600
Speaker 2: Hell and the grave.

220
00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,560
Speaker 1: So why what are you doing? You're trying to just

221
00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,280
Speaker 1: go out of town.

222
00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,319
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm excited for you. I think you need

223
00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,040
Speaker 2: the break.

224
00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,679
Speaker 1: No jealousy and me at all.

225
00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,160
Speaker 2: You know what we I think the show needs a

226
00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,600
Speaker 2: break right now. So let's take a break and here

227
00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:11,080
Speaker 2: from a few of our fine sponsors, and we're back.

228
00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,800
Speaker 1: I know I am excited for you.

229
00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,319
Speaker 2: And I know you're not, but it's okay. I mean

230
00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,720
Speaker 2: I don't need your excitement you. Let me say this though,

231
00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,000
Speaker 2: as we record this tonight, you're gonna get to meet

232
00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,320
Speaker 2: Stephen Coast Chapman because of me.

233
00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,600
Speaker 1: No, probably, I'm aware. And you paid for lunch today too.

234
00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,640
Speaker 2: I did pay for lunch today.

235
00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:28,560
Speaker 1: That was not intentional.

236
00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,120
Speaker 2: I was trying to pay for I'm very magnanimous as

237
00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,000
Speaker 2: a person. I just I love people.

238
00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,400
Speaker 1: I just want to do good.

239
00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,320
Speaker 2: I don't even want credit. No, you would even mention it.

240
00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,880
Speaker 2: You would even I would never even say it into

241
00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,480
Speaker 2: a microphone.

242
00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,840
Speaker 1: Right for millions of listeners to hear, millions and millions

243
00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,880
Speaker 1: all the good things.

244
00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,280
Speaker 2: That you know. But yeah, you're gonna get to meet

245
00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,400
Speaker 2: the SCC tonight.

246
00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,840
Speaker 1: I think I met him once in passing.

247
00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not the same.

248
00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,560
Speaker 1: I wrote for a guy and he passed away last

249
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,600
Speaker 1: year named Mike Hamilton, who was the former athletic director

250
00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,000
Speaker 1: right the University of Tennessee, and actually was one of

251
00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,680
Speaker 1: those weird things where I just approached him at an

252
00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,920
Speaker 1: event and it was like, because I really wanted to write,

253
00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee stuff. And we became friends and we'd

254
00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,679
Speaker 1: hang out and the book never took off that we

255
00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,720
Speaker 1: were trying to write. Pitched it and did different things,

256
00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,400
Speaker 1: but became a pretty good friends. But he became the

257
00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:23,240
Speaker 1: executive director of Show Hope Agency for the Chapmans, and

258
00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,960
Speaker 1: I think I had some meetings over there and saw

259
00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,040
Speaker 1: maybe shook his hand or something walking past kind of thing,

260
00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,240
Speaker 1: you know, So I put it.

261
00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,360
Speaker 2: Do you remember when I was a youth leader. We

262
00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,480
Speaker 2: were both youth leaders for our buddy Brian, who was

263
00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,720
Speaker 2: the youth pastor of Tennessee, and I would I wasn't

264
00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,120
Speaker 2: doing comedy yet at all, but every now and again

265
00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,480
Speaker 2: I would get a while here to do like a

266
00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,360
Speaker 2: skit before church. And one time I found this really

267
00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:52,120
Speaker 2: obnoxious looking suit at Goodwill and and I was heavy then,

268
00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,440
Speaker 2: I was probably two eighty, and I was like, I'm

269
00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,320
Speaker 2: going to do Matt Foley. And so I did like

270
00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,360
Speaker 2: a Matt Foley. Do you remember this Chris Farley, Matt

271
00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,400
Speaker 2: fall I. I did Matt Foley before or like a

272
00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,920
Speaker 2: youth He had some Brian wrote some spiritual tie into it.

273
00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,440
Speaker 2: He just wanted to see me do Matt Foley. And

274
00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,880
Speaker 2: I came out and I said something. I was doing

275
00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,040
Speaker 2: the whole like VANDWM by the river thing. And then

276
00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,040
Speaker 2: the thing I remember is I go, uh. I walk

277
00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,120
Speaker 2: over to you, and I go, what do you want

278
00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,679
Speaker 2: to be when you grow up? Young man? You're probably

279
00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,880
Speaker 2: twenty two or whatever, and you go, actually, I want

280
00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,800
Speaker 2: to be a Christian musician. And I go, well, why

281
00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,280
Speaker 2: do you freaking not? I walk over to Brian and

282
00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,200
Speaker 2: I go I can't see you real good days. That

283
00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,000
Speaker 2: Steve Chapman over there, and I had my glasses. Is

284
00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,439
Speaker 2: that Steve Chapman over there? Actually we've encouraged John's songwriting.

285
00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,679
Speaker 2: I wish you would just shut your big Yeah. Anyway,

286
00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,680
Speaker 2: it was a total ripoff of this sketch. But I

287
00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,120
Speaker 2: just remember saying, Steve Chapman. May it made me last

288
00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,840
Speaker 2: because he said Bill Shank said Bill Shakes. Is that

289
00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,679
Speaker 2: Bill Shakespeare over there? Oh? Yes, anyway, you get to

290
00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,760
Speaker 2: meet Steve Chapman and I I want you to call

291
00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,520
Speaker 2: him Steve Chapman.

292
00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,120
Speaker 1: Well, there is a Steve Chapman who's.

293
00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,520
Speaker 2: Oh Steve and Chapman. That's that's probably why he was

294
00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,760
Speaker 2: Stephen Curtis. Probably I need to ask him that question,

295
00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,480
Speaker 2: because that's true.

296
00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:02,160
Speaker 1: There's like a it's like a Jesus open up blood feud.

297
00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:04,760
Speaker 2: That's why I had to be Curtish.

298
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,320
Speaker 1: He must be stopped.

299
00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,720
Speaker 2: It's like Michael J. Fox. He's Michael J. Fox. Because

300
00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,680
Speaker 2: when you go down to like register your name with

301
00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,800
Speaker 2: SAG to become an actor, you get your book, your

302
00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,080
Speaker 2: first role, they go like okay, and they look your

303
00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,920
Speaker 2: name up in the database. Even back in the day

304
00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,360
Speaker 2: pre computers. They would go, we already got a Michael

305
00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,280
Speaker 2: Fox and you go what yeah, and they go, what's

306
00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,199
Speaker 2: your middle initial on you?

307
00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:25,720
Speaker 1: Jay?

308
00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,000
Speaker 2: You're Michael J. Fox now, And so that's what happened

309
00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,840
Speaker 2: to Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton was Michael Douglas, but there

310
00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 2: already was at Michael Douglas.

311
00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:35,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

312
00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,920
Speaker 2: So he just couldn't be Michael Douglas. And one of

313
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,240
Speaker 2: his favorite actresses was Diane Keaton. So he goes, I'll

314
00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,000
Speaker 2: be Michael Keaton.

315
00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Yeah, Well did you know that

316
00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,760
Speaker 1: Ulysses S. Grant his middle initials not really as.

317
00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,640
Speaker 2: Ris Stephen Curtis Grantman.

318
00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,880
Speaker 1: When he went to his dad had made him go military, sure,

319
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,480
Speaker 1: to the academy Military Academy. He didn't want to. When

320
00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,959
Speaker 1: he went to West Point right and they were like

321
00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,200
Speaker 1: they just put s in there and he.

322
00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,880
Speaker 2: No, he was like, that's not really because it's a

323
00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,920
Speaker 2: lot too much.

324
00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,280
Speaker 1: Well, but it's he became then U. S.

325
00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,160
Speaker 2: Grant U. S.

326
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,559
Speaker 1: Grant, which is a big part of like the.

327
00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,720
Speaker 2: Name, like it sounds very American, the most American.

328
00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that they used it like that for all

329
00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,439
Speaker 1: their propaganda.

330
00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,680
Speaker 2: Call yourself dollar Bill, you know what I'm saying, like

331
00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna win the election.

332
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,600
Speaker 1: Here's my uncle uncle Sam.

333
00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild.

334
00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,440
Speaker 1: And also you know where I had to see you

335
00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,640
Speaker 1: in my name now for a lot of times because

336
00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,480
Speaker 1: of the other John Driver John C. Driver, because they

337
00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,720
Speaker 1: so some of my things will have John C. Driver

338
00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:36,760
Speaker 1: now and some will have Johndre.

339
00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,120
Speaker 2: I think you seem like a Keaton to me, John,

340
00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,280
Speaker 2: John C. John. That guy knows how to theologize.

341
00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,560
Speaker 1: I do have a pseudonym idea. You know how to

342
00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,320
Speaker 1: make your pseudonym, right, you take your middle name.

343
00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,720
Speaker 2: In the street.

344
00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,200
Speaker 1: You grew up in your mom's maiden name. Okay, so

345
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,920
Speaker 1: what would be your pseudonym if your middle.

346
00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,360
Speaker 2: Name My middle name is Terry and my its main

347
00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,120
Speaker 2: name was Rhymer, So be Terry Rhymer.

348
00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one would ever know.

349
00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can write whatever you want. That's how I

350
00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,120
Speaker 2: check into hotels now, Terry Terry Rymer is it? No?

351
00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I just use my name because nobody cares. Listen,

352
00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna reveal my pseudonym. Oh well, because I

353
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,240
Speaker 1: really may. I have some ideas to write some things

354
00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,480
Speaker 1: that maybe I maybe I don't want.

355
00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,160
Speaker 2: Is that a norm? Plume, a pen name plume.

356
00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't want recognition, or maybe I don't want.

357
00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't I think if you didn't need attention, we

358
00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,840
Speaker 2: would not be doing this show. You've got to You've

359
00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,640
Speaker 2: got a real problem. But it's okay, John.

360
00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,320
Speaker 1: And on that note, listen to my segment we call it.

361
00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:51,480
Speaker 1: They talked about that. I gotta say my voice. I'm

362
00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,320
Speaker 1: leaning worship or easter.

363
00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,000
Speaker 2: Boddy, you're on the A team.

364
00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,400
Speaker 1: This is like the halftime show. Okay, oswaldt Chambers.

365
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 2: Said, wasn't he? The hold on Oswald Chambers was the

366
00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,400
Speaker 2: my utmost for you'd get that book when you graduated

367
00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,240
Speaker 2: a lot. That was a big graduation in the nineties.

368
00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,520
Speaker 2: My utmost for his highest Yeah. Yeah, big devotional guy.

369
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, we have shown our ignorance of him,

370
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,600
Speaker 1: this Jesus. We have shown our ignorance of him in

371
00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,560
Speaker 1: the very way we determined to serve him. We serve

372
00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,560
Speaker 1: Jesus in a spirit that is not his. We hurt

373
00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,760
Speaker 1: him by our advocacy for him. We push his claims

374
00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,840
Speaker 1: in the spirit of the devil. Our words sound all right,

375
00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,400
Speaker 1: but our spirit is that of an enemy.

376
00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:41,400
Speaker 2: Man.

377
00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,800
Speaker 1: This really struck me. It seems so kind of prescient,

378
00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's good to remember when

379
00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,400
Speaker 1: we feel panicked in the modern whatever our modern thing

380
00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:54,720
Speaker 1: is that the spirit of the enemy, and you know,

381
00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,480
Speaker 1: the the temptation to try to use the name of

382
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,680
Speaker 1: Jesus to gain things we shouldn't gain.

383
00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,400
Speaker 2: Right as like a club, it's always been there, using

384
00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,760
Speaker 2: the Gospel as a club for people, right a club

385
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,160
Speaker 2: to club somebody with not a club, like join a club.

386
00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,000
Speaker 2: But like we're battering people with the gospel sometimes, I

387
00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,440
Speaker 2: think that's what he means, Like your tone is important,

388
00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,119
Speaker 2: this idea that like, well it's the truth, it hurts,

389
00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:16,920
Speaker 2: it's working.

390
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,800
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Yeah, if there is no love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, face, inness,

391
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520
Speaker 1: or self control in your version of the gospel that

392
00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,200
Speaker 1: you're that you're speaking audibly, that it cannot be the gospel.

393
00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,560
Speaker 1: It cannot be even if you I'm not saying there

394
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,720
Speaker 1: not a time to call something right or wrong. But

395
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,560
Speaker 1: if you look at how Jesus did that with people,

396
00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,160
Speaker 1: he always did it with love and joy and peace

397
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,479
Speaker 1: and patience and kindness and goodness, even if he was rebuking.

398
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,359
Speaker 1: But the understand when he was rebuking it were. It

399
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,320
Speaker 1: was the people doing this.

400
00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,920
Speaker 2: It was usually the most religious people. Yeah, it was.

401
00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,800
Speaker 1: It was the people doing this were who were using

402
00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,399
Speaker 1: the name of his father in a spirit that's not

403
00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,040
Speaker 1: his father's.

404
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like.

405
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,080
Speaker 1: But I thought the one to get me that really

406
00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,959
Speaker 1: got me was we hurt him by her advocacy for him.

407
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,240
Speaker 1: And I've said that to the church without using this quote, like,

408
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,360
Speaker 1: it would be better for us to stop if we're

409
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,200
Speaker 1: going to speak in ways or about things towards people

410
00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,840
Speaker 1: that don't love people in the way that Jesus loves

411
00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,960
Speaker 1: them present tense, then it would be better for us

412
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,280
Speaker 1: to stop claim.

413
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,359
Speaker 2: You were a Christian if you're going to act that

414
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 2: way in public.

415
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 1: Because they think that's how Jesus is, which is how

416
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,840
Speaker 1: Jesus set it up. He set it up as us

417
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,959
Speaker 1: to be his body. They will know who you are

418
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,200
Speaker 1: by your love right, which means they're going to know

419
00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,639
Speaker 1: who Jesus is because they recognize the love of Jesus

420
00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,160
Speaker 1: in you, and not just the love of Jesus from

421
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,120
Speaker 1: you towards them, but the love of Jesus they see

422
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,640
Speaker 1: between you and other believers. More specifically, so, the way

423
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,359
Speaker 1: that we handle our conflict, the way that we lash

424
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,120
Speaker 1: out or don't lash out, the way that we repent

425
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 1: when we hurt someone, because we still make those mistakes.

426
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:54,480
Speaker 1: But advocating for Jesus in manners that are contrary to

427
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,520
Speaker 1: let's not just say the personality, but to the spirit

428
00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,720
Speaker 1: of Christ. And again the spirit of Christ. That list

429
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 1: I just rattled off, Yeah, like that's not one of

430
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 1: those I think we hear something. It sounds just flowery

431
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 1: to us. And scripture like that is the deepest of

432
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 1: theology possible in terms of orthopraxy, like the way that

433
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 1: you live out the things you believe. What Paul is

434
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: saying is is, look, these are specific ways, he says,

435
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,399
Speaker 1: and against these there's no law. There's no law against these,

436
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: meaning like the law the way of the law is

437
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 1: not it doesn't. Oh you can't you can't find something

438
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: legalistic to overcome these things with. You can't say yeah, yeah,

439
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 1: But this topic is the issue of our day. The

440
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 1: issue of our day is always for the believer. Am

441
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 1: I being transformed by Jesus into the manner of looking

442
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 1: more like him? How do what I know that I

443
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 1: look like him? Because I will bear the same fruit

444
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,360
Speaker 1: he bears by the same spirit that is within him,

445
00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: that's within me, and that fruit will look like love, joy, peace, patience,

446
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: and so like the time spent meditating on those things

447
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 1: or evaluating our lives, Like if you really evaluated your life, Johnny,

448
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 1: as a believer, what do we look at? We look

449
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 1: at church attendants and prayer, and we look at giving

450
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: and all those things, and those are great. But basically

451
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: even first John talks about this, but if you do

452
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: all those things and you still hate a brother or sister,

453
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: you still hate another human who you have seen, then

454
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: there's a lie happening within you to say that you

455
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 1: love a God that you have not seen. Those two

456
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: things cannot go because the love of God cannot have

457
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: a terminal point in your life. And it's not the

458
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: love of God you're experiencing. That the love of God,

459
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: by its transformational nature, must go through you to others.

460
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: It is the way, not only he intends it, it's

461
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: the way he commands it. That that is the number

462
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 1: one command. And I think there's a dis ordering of

463
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: our commandments where we go, Oh, I can skip as

464
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: long as okay, I'm doing these other things. It's like no, no, no,

465
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: He's saying doesn't matter if you have those other things.

466
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a loud clanging gong. Now it's

467
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: just a symbol. It's just making noise. It's not doing

468
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: his things. So anyway, Johnny, I thought the way you

469
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: treat people now, someone should say something, and I thought

470
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: Oswald really came.

471
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: He did, he nailed it. And what's funny is I

472
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 2: play the loud clanging gong for the worship team and

473
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: I did not get an invite to Easter too. I

474
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: didn't get the planning center. Well, well, planning center is

475
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: kind of inside baseball for people who don't on a

476
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: church staff. That's the email system that churches used to

477
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: plan their services. It's your app.

478
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it tells youation.

479
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 2: You get to check the box yes or no. Are

480
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: you willing to play guitar this Sunday? Can we can

481
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 2: we mark you down for these next three and you

482
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 2: go yes no, And then they go to triage. Is

483
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: to the next person if you say no. So, yeah,

484
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: I didn't get the plane. A loud clanging gong turns

485
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: out not absolutely necessary.

486
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, they should throw some relational stuff into that app,

487
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: like swipe right. If you're willing to play.

488
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: I think people. Yeah, make it more of a game,

489
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: make it feel more Yeah, if they church swipes right

490
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: on YouTube, is it left right? Like? I don't know,

491
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: I really don't know.

492
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since it has been Yeah dated.

493
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: It's been a long time. Thank the Lord for that.

494
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: Thank you Curry, Yes, for keeping me off the market.

495
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: John thinking Curry, Dan, it's weird.

496
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: I could not handle this guy.

497
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: You know, you're probably right, John. Let's do my single.

498
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: Let's start with old jokes. We call it joke about that. John.

499
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: You know what really boils my blood. Faulty spacesuits. It's

500
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: a dark one. We're starting. I like it. I like it.

501
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna we're going to orbit the Moon

502
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: for the first time in a while. We're sending man made,

503
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: man made, man manned spaceships to the man made, man

504
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: man made man spaceships to the Moon, and we're going

505
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 2: to land on the Moon within the year. I think

506
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: we're going back to the move for the first time

507
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: since the seventies. I think. So. It's an interesting time

508
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: and NASA culture at large. But anyway, faulty spacesuits. John.

509
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: At the end of his service, the Minister told his congregation.

510
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: Next week, I plan to preach about the sin of lying.

511
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: To help you understand my sermon, I want you all

512
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: to read Mark seventeen. The following Sunday, as he prepares

513
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: to deliver his sermon, the minister asked for a show

514
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: of hands. He wanted to know how many had read

515
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: Mark seventeen. Every hand went up. The mister smiled and said,

516
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 2: seeing as Mark has only sixteen chapters, I will now

517
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: proceed with my sermon on the sin of lyne. You

518
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: knew it right away. John's like a sword drill you

519
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: like you seventeen? Good day? Like I'm using that. I'm

520
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: doing that next time, you bunch of liars.

521
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: How many of you guys have read in the Book

522
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: of a Hezekaya?

523
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: Your second opinion? Second opinions? First condominiums. John. A guy

524
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: in court. A guy's in court facing murder charges. The

525
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: judge says, you're charged with murdering your wife with an axe.

526
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 2: A guy at the back of the court yells you monster.

527
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: The judge then says you're also charged with murdering your

528
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: mother in law with an axe. The guy at the

529
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: back of the court again yells you monster. The judge

530
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: addresses that got the back and says, sir, I realized

531
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: the charges are upsetting, but please refrain yourself. The man replies,

532
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: you don't understand, judge. I lived next door to this

533
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: man for ten years, and every time I asked to

534
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: borrow an axe, he said he didn't have one. These

535
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: are some dark jokes today, It's okay, except for the

536
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: lying when that was just kind of tame. John upon

537
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: seeing his new store. On seeing upon opening his new store,

538
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: sorry and reading these. Upon opening his new store, a

539
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: man received a bouquet of flowers. He became very dismayed

540
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: after reading the enclosed card, though our deepest sympathies. Suddenly

541
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: his phone running. Surprisingly, it was the florist calling to

542
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: apologize for having sent the wrong card with the flowers.

543
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: Oh it's all right, said the shopkeeper. I'm a businessman

544
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: and I understand how these things can happen. But asked

545
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: the floorst I think I accidentally sent your card to

546
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: a funeral party. I'm sure it's no big deal. What

547
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: did What did it say? Asked the storekeeper. Congratulations on

548
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: your new location, which is kind of app honestly sounds

549
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 2: a new location. Yeah, or I'll headed to a new

550
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: location upon death. That'll preach on it, John, boy, this

551
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: will this is a easter. John. Let's do my final

552
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: segment this week in history, we call it talk about

553
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: Then John. This week I had a couple of April

554
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: Fools moments because this is April Fools Day as we

555
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: record this. Are you a big April Fools prankster? No,

556
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: you don't do it. Never posted a faulty. No, Laura

557
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: and I are pregnant again. I've never done the thing,

558
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: and goes, oh, holy moly.

559
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't have time.

560
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: I just don't.

561
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

562
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: It's just you're never you do You never practical joke

563
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: to anybody except like maybe high school.

564
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you and I are kind of the

565
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: same in this. You're always I'm always worried that the

566
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: person that practical joke will be more serious than I am.

567
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: In the turn, they'll jump a level, go psycho on you. Yeah,

568
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: you don't. You never know.

569
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: You used to have a joke with that.

570
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: What was you would say? You start off simple, like

571
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: I put cheese was on your door handle, I shut

572
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: shaven on your mirror. You're like I toilet paper as

573
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: your law. They're like I poisoned your ferret. Yeah, I

574
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: don't have a ferret. John. This week nineteen ninety six today,

575
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, April first, As part of an April

576
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: Fools Day joke, Taco Bell takes out ads in seven

577
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: leading newspapers announcing they had purchased the Liberty Bell to

578
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: quote reduced the country's debt and had renamed it the

579
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: Taco Liberty Bell. In response to public concerns, White House

580
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: Press Secretary Mike McCurry stated that the federal government was

581
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: also quote selling the Lincoln Memorial to Ford Motor Company

582
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: and renaming it the Lincoln Mercury Memorial. The prank was

583
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: successful in that it only cost the US three hundred

584
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, but generated a sales increase exceeding one million

585
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: dollars for the first two days in April, along with

586
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: a large amount of free publicity. It's seeing the US

587
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: wow cost the US that I'm think. I'm thinking that

588
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: means Taco Bell was successful in doing it. Okay, so

589
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: I'll say, what what the US spending money too? Yeah,

590
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: that's weird. I think this means because this is a

591
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: RUSS I get these out the internet, off the web,

592
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: and so I'm sure. This means that Taco Bell spent

593
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: three hundred grand but made a million dollars in sales.

594
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: What do we think that I remember the Taco Liberty Bell.

595
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: I remember it being a thing in the newspaper ninety six,

596
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: the Taco Liberty Bell. Yeah, and people are like, come

597
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: on real, walk them on.

598
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: You know, they stopped making Mexi melks. That's the best

599
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: thing that happened, you know what. I love the chilito,

600
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: the chili cheese burrito.

601
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Gosh, man, you could. You needed to be near

602
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: a bathroom, but man, that was good. The Mexi melt

603
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Mexi mount was whyse never come back?

604
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: They do all these like eighty cents.

605
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: We're bringing them back, your favorites over the decades, and

606
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: then never bring back Mexi melts.

607
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: Guys do better.

608
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're listening, algorithm, yeah, someone tell Taco Bell.

609
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 2: So we the other night, Curry goes, I go, where

610
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: do you want to go to dinner? And she goes,

611
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: I just kind of want something, and she goes, I'm

612
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: afraid to say it. I go what she goes, I

613
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: want Taco Bell. We went to Taco Bell and sat down. Hey,

614
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: we ate in a taco bell.

615
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: Listen, it's really good. I hate it is really good.

616
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 2: It's a little more expensive than it ever has been,

617
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: so you can't just eat like five pounds of food

618
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: for twelve dollars. It was like it wasn't It was

619
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: more expensive, but not as expensive as like a sit

620
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 2: down place would have been a real sit down.

621
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Do you get a Mexican pizza?

622
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: No?

623
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Do you get a nachos belgrande?

624
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: I got a ksadach in case of dia and a

625
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: hard shell taco. Wow, I'm not I don't. I don't

626
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: like the fancies fan I didn't have. I didn't have

627
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 2: a crunch wrap chance to go and do something special.

628
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: I know I do like a Mexican pizza every now

629
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: and again. And those went away for a while too,

630
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: and they brought him back popular demand. Maybe if we

631
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: if we get a petition together, Mexi mount Guy's Mexi.

632
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: You never had one. You don't know. It's unbelievable.

633
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: It was very good. It was very good. John This Week,

634
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six. Apple Computer is founded by Steve Jobs,

635
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: Steve Wozniak, and Ronald Wayne. You don't hear about Ronald

636
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 2: Wayne a lot. I wonder what happened with them. I'm

637
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: sure an Apple, an Apple nerd is going to like

638
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: try to email the show and tell us what happened,

639
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: because you're about Waz and you hear he was kind

640
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: of the brains and Steve Jobs was like he had

641
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: the public facing persona and the drive right, you know,

642
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: and but who's wrong Wayne? What happened to him? Their

643
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: first product? This is why it makes the list. Their

644
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: first product was named the Apple one Personal Computer Kid,

645
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: and it's sold for a price of six hundred and

646
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: sixty six dollars and sixty six cents. Now, listen, John, Wow,

647
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: you already live in a world at this time in

648
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six where people are like, yeah, the mark

649
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: of the Beast. It was the kind of the seeds

650
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: of the Satanic panic were starting. Yeah, and you're gonna

651
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: sell a computer which people think is going to usher

652
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: in the Antichrist. Probably, let's sell it for six hundred

653
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: and sixty six dollars and sixty six cents. What are

654
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: you crazy?

655
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: I technically you're adding two more sixes, but.

656
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: That makes it all the worse.

657
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe I think it I don't know

658
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: it's anyway.

659
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: They'll never be they'll never go anywhere. No, obviously that

660
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: Apple computer from the beginning, that's not great. John This Week,

661
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty seven. The spaghetti tree hoax occurred nineteen fifty seven.

662
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: The BBC aired as an April Fool's quote news story

663
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: about the spaghetti harvest in Switzerland. It purported to show

664
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: spaghetti being harvested from trees and laid out to dry as,

665
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: and claimed that spaghetti trees had been specially bred in

666
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: Switzerland to produce such uniform length spaghetti strands. After the broadcast,

667
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: hundreds of people called in to find out how they

668
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: too could obtain their own spaghetti trees. To make it

669
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: sound more authoritative, the voiceover was done by respected broadcaster

670
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: Richard Dimpledby Dimplebee, the idea was the brainchild of panoramic

671
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: cameramen Charles D. Yeager, who came up with the idea

672
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: for the hoax after remembering how teachers at his school

673
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: teased classmates for being so stupid that if they were

674
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: told spaghetti grow on trees, they would believe it. No,

675
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: listen these teachers, Yeah, it's really that's not very Just

676
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: do a better job. Let me tell you why you're stupid.

677
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: You're so stupid, young person. I'm charged with your education.

678
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: But it is interesting to BBC. You know these English

679
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: people are you know Britain. They're supposed to be like

680
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: the New Americans with you, and they fell for this.

681
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 2: They were calling in the station. How do I get

682
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: my very own? Sorry?

683
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: I remember my.

684
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: Wife telling me that she had a girl in her class.

685
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Once asked if there were cheese trees? So was this

686
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: senior year? Yeah? This was It was old. It was

687
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: old enough that people turned around and stared, Yeah, where

688
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: does cheese come from? Cheese cheese trees? John. Finally, the

689
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: first portable cell phone call occurred this week, nineteen seventy three.

690
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: The first portable cell phone call is made, and this

691
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: is why it makes the list. I love it. General

692
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: manager of Motorola's Communications system division called. Do you want

693
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: to guess who he called? Because it had to be

694
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: somebody else with a portable cell phone? Right? Or maybe

695
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: I guess you could call a landline. I guess you'd

696
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: call Aline. But who would you call? If you had

697
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: disinvented something that you had a feeling was going to

698
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: change the world, you'd probably call your mom. You're not

699
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: gonna believe this, right, or you call my wife. Call

700
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: your wife. They called their arrival at AT and T's

701
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Bell Labs from the streets of New York City.

702
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

703
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: So they basically call, you know, they're like, it's working,

704
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: you're going down. They to taunt them.

705
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Wowm that cool, that's cool.

706
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: That's some hater aid right there. I don't know, you

707
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: don't like that because when you know, Alexander Graham Bell

708
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: was like what half god rot, you know, it was

709
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: a big like hmm yeah, and you can get your

710
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: own for six hundred and sixty six. No. He They

711
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 2: called their rival they called the old which that's kind

712
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: of an old that's an old school hater rut there.

713
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: Montreolla is onlyer around, right, I don't They probably have

714
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: been absorbed and they still exist in some other conglomerate form.

715
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's like AT and T still is that's true?

716
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Who's the last one standing?

717
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: Who had the last still?

718
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Could maybe Motorola maybe they got maybe they turned into

719
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: Horizon or something.

720
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Motorola was absorbed by somebody and then

721
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: they were absorbed and absorbed.

722
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: And what was the name of Horizon before his Hoverizon.

723
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: It was a next till singular?

724
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: Oh singular?

725
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: Was it?

726
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. We don't have any information. We'll look

727
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: it up and we'll tell you next week. On John,

728
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: How would you send a note to the show and

729
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: correct all of our many many errors.

730
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: Just send an email to Hello talk about that podcast

731
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: dot com.

732
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: If you go to talk about that podcast dot com, John,

733
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: you can find so many of our archived episodes, over

734
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: four hundred episodes to listen to. Maybe you're on your

735
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: spring break trip, maybe you're headed out for summer vacation soon.

736
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: What a better way than to just you know, pass

737
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, because otherwise you're gonna stick your hand

738
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: out the window and do one of those things.

739
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be doing that'll do that.

740
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: It's a waste of your energy. Pull out your device.

741
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh put in sound canceling headphones. You can't

742
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: even hear the kids scream in the backs?

743
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: Can more?

744
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Maybe they're asking for food,

745
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: but they have to go to the bathroom. But you're

746
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: here with us, Hey, in here, it's safe.

747
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: It is safe.

748
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not advocating.

749
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, but yeah, I have a have a

750
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: listen and we appreciate our fine listeners and it means

751
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: a lot to us. John, I am on tour, yeah

752
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: a lot this year. Yeah, And I wanted to give

753
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: a few of my tour dates if I could. I mean,

754
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: it's weird to kind of you know, ah wow it

755
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: for yourself. But the Live and Laughing Tour rolls on

756
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: April twenty third, Thursday, pri twenty third, Magnolia, Arkansas. That's

757
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: with my buddy Adam Bush, who helps produce this show actually,

758
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: and Christian McCartney, who's like a big viral. I mean,

759
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: he has six million TikTok followers. This guy's great. He's

760
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: young too, so he brings it young energy, crackling energy

761
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: to the show that it desperately needs. Come see us

762
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: in Magnolia, Arkansas, April twenty third. April twenty fourth, Cleburne, Texas.

763
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: That's a suburb of Fort Worth, I believe, so Dallas

764
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: Fort Worth area, Come on out, Dallas people. Crosby, Texas,

765
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: which is a suburb of Houston. It's north of Houston.

766
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: That's April twenty fifth. And then Jonesboro, Arkansas, Sunday, April

767
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: twenty sixth. I'm also gonna be in West Bend, Wisconsin

768
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: April eleventh, Yes, April eleventh, So come see me there

769
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: West Bend at the Bend Theater. That's coming up very

770
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 2: soon April eleventh, And those tickets are available at Johnny

771
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: W dot com, no Age j Owen and I e

772
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: W dot com.

773
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exciting, it's exciting times.

774
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: A lot going on.

775
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: People are loving the show. We're hearing great things.

776
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: People like the show. And people at my show talk

777
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: about this show. Yeah, they go, hey, we love this show.

778
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: Where's John I know he's in the backpack, he's Yeah,

779
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: you did need to come out. You said you were

780
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: gonna come on one of the bus tour runs, and

781
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: I think you're running that time.

782
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: I think it's the fall legg we're out of travel sea.

783
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: They cancel these fall dates. Oh no, that'll be the

784
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: worst you would have missed out. I don't know. It

785
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: was a volleyball. I hope you're happy. I'm not. That's good.

786
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: It makes me happy there. I want you to be

787
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: a little churning. Yeah, that's fine.

788
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: Well, it was a fun day, guys. Thanks for all

789
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: the time you gave us. Let's do it again next week.

790
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: You're on talk about that.

791
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: That's the.

792
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: Butt, pas a past that

793
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: Does not