WEBVTT - The Complex Truth About Beauty and Self-Image 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.200 Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 0:00:24.240 --> 0:00:27.720 hours of Dennis's lectures, courses in classic radio programs, and 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:38.279 to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.480 On today's episode of Timeless Wisdom. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.760 You know that old joke about the three stages of 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.920 human life, youth, middle age, and you're looking great. And 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.120 by the way, ever since I heard that joke, isn't 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.360 it a great one? I mean, even the young whipper 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:58.280 snappers are laughing, and it is such a good line 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:03.400 that I tried to consciously not say to a person 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.480 beyond middle age, you're looking great. But then I think, well, 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.719 wait a minute, they don't know the joke, so I can. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.200 That's coming up on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager, and 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:17.920 it starts right now. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.360 I like two sexes. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:21.720 I don't know. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.280 I think all of a sudden, I don't like being 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:24.880 married to one is known as a new woman. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:26.800 I want a wife, not a competitor. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.480 Competator, competitor talk about a bit, this crying in the 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.160 morning thing. It's depression, you know, let's get that fixed. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.080 That's what men think, isn't it what unless you've got 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.000 the answer, unless you can say, oh no, this bloke 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.360 in the Essex roodical fix that, and there's no point bothering. 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.319 How do you write women so well? 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.360 I think of a man and I take away reason 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:49.640 and accountability. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.480 I love him, I love him, and I don't care 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:53.120 what you think. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.360 I love him for the for the man he wants 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.560 to be, and I love him for the man that 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.280 he almost is. What do people have rows about him? 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:08.639 Money? It's sex sex, money he wants, she doesn't want. 0:02:09.079 --> 0:02:10.480 She wants, he doesn't want. 0:02:10.920 --> 0:02:11.240 Women. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.240 I've always been a big problem to me. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.280 Doctor fuspender. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.320 Listening, doctor, Yes, yes, yes, go on gone. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.680 I live for that. I live for that. Doctor. Hello everybody, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.600 missus Dennis Prager. The Male Female Hour an hour each 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:35.200 week devoted to issues of men and women and between 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.679 men and women. It is very adult, It is very 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:45.680 real and hopefully indeed very helpful. And you can't be 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:50.919 helpful if you're not real, So the two go together. Hi, welcome, 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:57.440 and the subject today is again a difficult one. I 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:04.320 will be my usual transparent here. Of all fifteen hours 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.800 of my show each week, by and large, the Male 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:11.160 Female Hour is the hardest hour in terms of sheer 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:17.680 effort because the subject matter is so sensitive to at 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:23.239 least half the audience that I have to choose every 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.680 word very carefully. I admit it. I admit, I mean 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.799 try to choose my words carefully every hour of my program. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.600 I take this as a as a gift to this microphone, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.080 but especially this hour. And here is one more example 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.240 of where I should get overtime pay, not because it's 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:47.600 more than the usual time, but because of the care 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:54.080 with which I will deliberately choose each word. I'm laughing 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.840 because of this introduction I'm giving the topic, and the 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:09.160 topic is the women changing their natural look for their 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:14.080 husband or indeed to have a better social life if 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:19.880 they're single. And it goes from I mean the most 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.839 obvious is make up. Make Up changes your natural look, 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:29.000 and there are women who don't wear makeup. It is 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.080 I will admit that when I meet them and they're married. 0:04:34.159 --> 0:04:37.839 If they're not married, I have nothing to say. But 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.080 if they are married, I will admit I feel some 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.960 sympathy for the husband, unless he is of the same mind, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.360 in which case God bless them both and may they 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.040 live many many years together in happiness. And I mean 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.000 it from the bottom of my heart, but for most 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.760 men it's probably not appreciated. It's very hard to say 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:04.359 anything to one's wife about her looks. Most men, I think, 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:09.960 would rather enter a combat zone than say anything to 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:14.560 their wife about their looks her looks. It's a very, 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.520 very difficult area because of the issue of looks and 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.240 women and how important it is. Unfairly, I admit, but 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.320 it is. The issue is not whether it is fair. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.839 The issue is whether it is true. And that is 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.560 the way God made the human universe, and you have 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.440 if you have an issue with it, it's not with me. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.600 The power of looks in women it is. The issue 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.679 is with God, or if you don't believe in God, 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:46.680 with nature and or evolution. But in any event, your 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.520 issue is not with me. I am the deliverer of 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:55.400 facts here in this case, not the creator of them. Now, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:01.200 so makeup is the most obvious example of where a 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:09.120 woman is changing her natural looks, and the number of 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:14.000 areas in which this is done routinely and then semi 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.120 routinely is very large. Another example, of course, is the 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.400 vast number of women who will keep their original hair 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.840 color as they get older. You see what is the 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.920 ratio of seeing gray haired men or white haired men 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.599 to white haired or gray haired or silver haired women. 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.599 The ratio must be I don't know, fifty to one. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:42.560 And is it unfair? I mean, should should men? You know, 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.000 in the name of equality? Should men dye their hair too? 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.000 Or women not? The issue is not equality, The issue 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:53.560 is what works. In fact, men who do treat their 0:06:53.600 --> 0:07:00.279 hair with coloring are often regarded with a little contempt 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.240 to be perfectly honest. Oh, you know the guy just 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.080 you know, yeah, he won't he won't grow old gracefully 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.200 or whatever it is. Or he's you know, he's trying 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.640 to act like he's still thirty eight. But nobody says 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.920 that about a woman. They say, more power to her. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.800 She looks terrific. Anyway, you know that old joke about 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:26.360 the three stages of human life, youth, middle age, and 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.240 you're looking great. And by the way, ever since I 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.600 heard that joke, isn't it a great one? I mean, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.440 even the young whipper snappers are laughing, And it is 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.000 such a good line that I try to consciously not 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.280 say to a person beyond middle age, you're looking great. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.480 But then I think, well, wait a minute, they don't 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:55.360 know the joke, so I can. And by the way, 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.160 to be honest, women are looking great at older and 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.840 older ages, and that's terrific. It's it's a blessing for her, 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.280 it's a blessing for her husband. And I am I 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.680 am a big proponent of it. I mean, why not. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.840 I remember when I went to the Soviet Union, where 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:19.680 Communist countries, women and men, but especially women a far 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.200 more readily. I mean, a forty year old woman in 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.080 the Soviet Union looked like a seventy or sixty year 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:29.880 old woman in the United States or France, and so 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.360 you know, that was a natural look there. But in 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.720 more affluent societies in the West now, and not just 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.559 the West, women are looking better and better, getting older 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:46.479 and older. I think that's magnificent. People are getting are 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:52.080 living older. Why not? So anyway, the subject again is 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:59.920 women not looking as they are naturally. So makeup is 0:08:59.960 --> 0:09:03.480 the most obvious example dying here Now, most people have 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.320 no problem with makeup or dying of the hair, and 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.040 talking about women here, I think most people do have 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.720 problems with men in makeup and men dyeing their hair, 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.720 and I am among them. I would have some problem 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.600 with that too, But what about and what about a facelift? 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.679 In other words, what about when you're getting into And 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:28.040 here's where feminist feminists do not generally rail against dyeing 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.840 of the hair. I don't think or against makeup. But 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.080 once you go beyond that to surgery, for example, then 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:40.880 you have a very large body of feminist literature. Oh 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.440 look at the risks women will take just for their looks. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.280 And you know, so women will have a facelift, for example, 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:53.080 or any form of cosmetic surgery or a nose job, 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.160 as they do. They still call it those jobs. Is 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.480 that the term still used? I don't know. That's the way, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.040 that's the way it was used, I guess. Now reconstruction, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.160 what is it? Nasal reconstruction? Oh, give me a break. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.240 I never heard anybody getting nasal reconstruction unless they have 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:19.800 a deviated septum. Young whipper snappers, what do you guys? Anyway? 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.160 That's uh so, that's an area I will discuss with you. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.920 And then, of course breast implants, which have become to 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:35.480 use the Latin de rigueur almost expected now and I 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.400 have I have a number of thoughts on both of these. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.640 Let's begin with Oh, yes. And the other one, which 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:47.200 is also uh, not looking your natural self, is you know, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:51.200 putting on something sexy in the bedroom with your with 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.880 your husband. And I have heard over the course of 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:59.480 time from women, because both both sexes happily have do 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.480 open up to me as as you well should. I'm 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:08.440 pretty open and and happily take the your openness. But 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.200 I have heard and some young women, some different different 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.960 age women, will say, you know what, if he loves me, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.960 he will love me from my heart and my mind. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.960 You know, not for not for my not for my 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:25.440 plastic surgery, not for my cosmetic surgery, not for my 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:30.079 breast implant, not for wearing sexy clothing. You know, if 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.600 you know God, God made the woman's body enticing on 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.959 its own, why why wear you know, negligee or whatever 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.600 it's called, tibet or or in the in the bedroom. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.839 I will deal with all of these and take your 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.280 calls when we come back A one eighth Prager seven 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.480 seven six. All of these tend to be much less 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.640 frightening when when dispassionately discussed. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.840 This episode of timeless wisdom will continue right after this. 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:26.160 Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:34.679 Okay, everybody, you're listening to the Dennis Prager Show, and 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.200 the subject is a very It is, of course, the 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.920 Male Female Hour every what is it? Second hour Wednesday 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:46.120 is devoted to very real discussions about men and women. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.040 And I'm discussing one that for many women is a 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:54.120 non issue, absolutely, but for a fair number of women 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.600 is an issue. And that is it's one thing to 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:05.560 acknowledge the importance of looking attractive to your husband. But please, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.840 you know, okay, make up. I can live with even 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.960 dyeing my hair, But you know what about what about 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.680 going under the knife? Which is what cosmetic surgery is 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:20.360 about a facelift? You know, something on the nose, breast, implants, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.400 et cetera. Why you know, why can't he love me 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.959 for who I am? Why do I have to do this? 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:34.560 And it is I understand the question, and I but 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:41.640 the reality is that it matters. We are not disembodied creatures. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.880 In the afterlife, we will be perhaps only souls, but 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.800 on Earth were physical beings, and the physical matters. I 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.880 wish it didn't. I wish it didn't, do you know? 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:58.320 I remember I'd be very open with you as I 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:03.800 as I am regularly. I have a very rarely I mean, 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.959 and it's probably true for most men. Most men don't 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:13.600 cry very often, and I have. I remember one of 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.080 the only times I think post the age of twelve 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.200 that I cried was when and I've never told this 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:26.360 actually maybe even new to you Allan I was about 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:32.960 twenty or my early twenties, and there was a woman 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:37.120 that I loved deeply. Well, let's put it this way. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.960 I thought was a total kindred spirit, which is hard 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:45.280 to find in life. But I just wasn't attracted to her. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.520 And I remember crying for her and for me that 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:55.360 something so not in front of her I didn't but privately, 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:00.640 but that something so quote unquote trivial could prevent two 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:08.760 people from from bonding. But what are you going to do? Life? 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:17.280 Life is doing what we can with reality, not denying reality. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.080 So the woman who says he should love me just 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:28.920 for my heart and mind is denying reality, just as 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.160 just as it would be to deny reality to say 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.760 that the heart and mind don't matter, that that only 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.040 looks matter. A man who marries only for looks is 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:42.920 doomed for misery, utter misery. He's an idiot. Just to 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.440 put it. To put it bluntly, I mean, they're a 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.520 married women who marry just for money, they probably have 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.200 a better chance. I would think it's some happiness than 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.520 a man who married only for looks. That's how And 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.680 I certainly don't advocate marrying only for money. And I'll 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.920 have more to say about the uh, about the facelifts 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.920 and so on, but I want to take your your calls. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.960 Let's go to Denver, Colorado and Cindy. Hi, Cindy, Dennis Prager. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.920 Hi, Dennis, thanks for taking my call. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:16.000 I'm glad you called. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.400 I wanted to say that my issue as a woman 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.560 with plastic surgery is actually kind of the same issue 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.960 that I have with pornography, and that it sort of 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.640 alters the perception of what is real. And so when 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.720 you start talking about having women as a age altering 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.600 their bodies so that when you're forty or fifty, you're 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.600 looking like you're twenty five or thirty, then it sort 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.120 of becomes this new standard of what beauty is. Versus 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.560 accepting what is beautiful for a forty year old or 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.720 a fifty year old. You're trying to say that here's 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.160 this box of what's beautiful. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.080 Why are you okay? If you're okay with makeup? Why 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.280 are you okay? Since that alters a woman's looks? 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:09.520 Well, I think because it is so invasive and because. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:14.000 It wait wait wait wait wait wait, hold on your objection, 0:17:14.360 --> 0:17:16.239 and you know me, I'm not going to argue with you. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.320 I'm going to clarify if we differ, So your objection 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.000 is not altering looks. It's using a knife to alter looks. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:30.600 It's sort of almost, in a way, mutilating a woman. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.160 And I know it's such a feminist word use, but 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.199 it's mutilating a woman's body to say that you have 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.600 to completely change what is naturally physically who you are 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.119 versus I think the idea with makeup is sort of 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:48.520 enhancing what you are naturally you know, well, surgery is 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.600 completely altering what you are naturally. 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.640 Well, I think that makeup changes your look, or can 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.919 change your look, at least as dramatically. I mean, have 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.359 you ever seen at the supermarket. I notice these you 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.119 know people and us and these others. They will have pictures, 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.720 I guess to make women feel better, which I totally understand. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:15.640 Of some of the most glamorous stars in Hollywood, where 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.480 they paparazzi have caught them without makeup and then show 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.800 them with makeup. They are almost not recognizable as the 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.919 same woman. So I would argue that makeup is as 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:30.840 dramatically a changing all all a facelift does is in fact, 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.200 quite the contrary. It is restored the way you looked earlier. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.439 But that's what I'm saying is you're restoring a woman 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.320 who is beautiful at as a fifty year old. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.480 Look, yeah, but she's not as But she's not as 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:47.479 beautiful at fifty as she was at thirty in most cases. 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.560 I mean, it's just a fact. But you so why 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.720 shouldn't Why shouldn't she? Why shouldn't she? What if you 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.000 could take a pill? It's not invasive. You take a 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:00.760 pill and some of the sagging on the face just 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.720 goes away. Would you be against the pill? 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:11.119 I just feel like changing the standard of beauty at 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.480 a certain age to say that it has to compare 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.080 to the beauty at you know that a woman who's forty. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:18.520 Has to do well? 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.680 Let me ask you, well, yes, but I would argue, 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.320 I think it's almost less compassionate to have your view. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.600 Let's compassionate to women. Let us say that there is 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:32.000 a fifty year old woman and a thirty five year 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.680 old woman, and they both want this fifty year old 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.080 man who has a better chance, all things being equal, 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.080 who has a better chance perhaps the thirty five year 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.800 old based on looks alone. Why should we give that 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.480 advantage that woman who has developed her brain and her 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.200 mind and her and her abilities, Why should she seed 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.800 that advantage if she can do something about it? 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.120 But all other things aren't equal. When you're talking about 0:19:58.160 --> 0:19:59.879 a fifty five year old woman, you're talking about the 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:01.080 wisdom and the life experience. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.879 You're right, You're right, it is, But he's not if 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.280 he only wants wisdom. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:06.679 To what you're going to find in a thirty five 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.760 years right. See why we can't as women, we can't 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.240 own that and say that, yes, this you know because. 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:14.800 Looks Because Cindy, with. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.640 The wisdom and the time and the life, you're right. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:21.280 They are a tremendous value. I am a big wisdom proponent, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:25.480 as you know, Cindy. However, Cindy, you're twenty seven, and 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.159 I think that when you're fifty seven you might feel 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.840 more like I am. I am speaking now, we'll be 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:32.600 back in a moment. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.159 This episode of Timeless Wisdom. We'll continue right after this. 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:57.240 Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:02.840 You're listening to the Dennis Prager Show funny about the 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:09.000 issue of natural looks versus enhanced looks, whether it's makeup 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:18.000 or dyeing one's hair. And I'm talking about women specifically. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.600 This is the male female of the Dennis Prager Show, 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:27.120 second hour every Wednesday. And it's very tempting. Look, it's 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.600 very tempting for anybody to say, you sound noble, you 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.359 sound great. But it doesn't help anybody to say, ah, 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.040 it doesn't matter, just you know, just grow old. And 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.600 in some cases it works, it does absolutely. I mean, 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.760 this is something for any given couple to work out 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:50.440 on their own. But it's not common for a woman 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:55.720 to get the truth from her husband because talking about 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.200 her looks is the hardest thing a man can do. 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:07.679 How do I look, honey? The answer is great, Men men, 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.120 or at least men believe that we ought to talk 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.440 about that. By the way, that would be a good subject. 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:17.400 In other words, women can help men in this regard. 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:22.080 What should they lie? And maybe they should, but it 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.760 would be a very helpful thing to have that as 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:28.639 a subject on you know, do I look fat in 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:37.240 this dress? What is he supposed to say? And then 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.240 we'll go, well, you know, well what about the guy? 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:43.200 And you know, but looks in men are not as 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.840 critical to women as looks in women are to men. 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:51.840 It's just that's the way the world works. It's not fair, 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.320 but there are many things not fair. It's not fair 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.920 that men are far more likely to die in war. 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:00.879 It's not fair that men commit far more suicide than women. 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.520 It's not fair that men flunk out more. It's not 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.439 fair that men are more on drugs. It's not fair 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.520 that men are tortured far more than women are tortured. 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.000 It's not fair that men have to make a living 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.119 and a lot of women don't have to make a living. 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:22.679 I mean, you can go through it. The question is 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:27.160 not what's fair, as one mature, as one doesn't ask 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:35.480 that question. One asks one asks what works, whether it's 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:40.800 healthcare or the life of a couple. What works, not 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:45.600 what's fair. What's fair is a theoretical, platonic question of 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:51.200 some ideal that one constructs in one's brain. And then 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.000 you know the because I read this stuff, I read 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:57.560 the feminist arguments against this. Oh what you know, women 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:02.120 going under the knife for the just to look younger. Yeah, 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:08.720 that's true, that's true. And by the way, can one 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.679 have too much plastic surgery? Of course one can have 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.680 too much. One can have too much vitamins. One can 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:19.800 have too much of anything on earth. The question is 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.520 is any too much? Not as too much? Too much? 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.760 Of course? Too much? Is too much? Is any too much? 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:35.600 That's the question. Let's go to Birmingham, Michigan. I know Birmingham. Hello, Cassie, 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:36.360 Dennis Prager. 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.440 Hi Dennis. I am thrilled to be talking to you 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:40.960 and looking to you all the time. 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:41.480 Thank you. 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.199 I had a face lift about a month ago. I 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.720 am fifty eight years old, and I didn't do it 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.200 for my husband. I did it for myself. I am 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:56.120 a firm believer that how you feel about yourself, which 0:24:56.200 --> 0:25:01.520 obviously means how you think you look, affects every relationship 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:05.240 you have. And if I and I do believe it 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.640 says even in the Bible that you are to love yourself. 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.920 And if I love myself, meaning I like the way 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.480 I look, every relationship in my life is going to 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.240 be better. And I can tell you that I looked 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.119 at the way I was looking, at the way I 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:30.320 was feeling, and they didn't match up. And I wanted. 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.840 To look more like how you said. You didn't do 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:34.160 it for your husband? 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:34.520 No? 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:39.600 Was he one percent of the decision or zero? 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.879 Oh? He's a he's a He supported me whatever I 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:45.440 wanted to do. 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:47.439 Well? Is he happy you did it? 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:48.320 Yes? 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:50.280 So he said. 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.720 I don't look, and I don't look. It's not like 0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:53.920 I turned back the clock. 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.879 No, no, no, I no, of course not, nor should 0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.520 one turning back the clock twenty years looks a little 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.960 foolish back in a moment. That's a very important call. 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:03.800 I thank you. 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:16.080 This episode of timeless wisdom. We'll continue right after this. No, 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.520 back to more of Dennis Prager's time swizz T. 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.440 All right, everybody, you're listening to the Dennis Prager Show, 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:32.320 the Male Female Hour. And it's a particularly difficult subject. 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.040 It's such a sensitive issue when I am aware of that, 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.560 and frankly, I have a great deal of sympathy for 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:43.840 women on this particular issue. But the question is in 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:48.119 sympathy as much as it is again what works. And 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.800 I'm talking about this issue of women's natural looks versus 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:55.800 enhanced looks, whether it's well the earliest stages make up. 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.800 Then there's the dying of hair, and then there is 0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:02.920 a facelift, and then there is you know, something done 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:08.880 to the nose perhaps, and then there is their breast implants, 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:15.480 and god knows what else, and tummy tucks and so 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.280 she tucks and so on. By the way, if this 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:24.280 may come as some surprise, given that I have support 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:29.359 for moderate use of these things, uh, the and that 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.159 is I think that a lot of women today in 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:36.160