WEBVTT - The Law of the Lower Elites 

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome everybody. It is August eleventh. Blake's got

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<v Speaker 2>my mic flag again, y REFI Studios in Phoenix, Arizona again.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew broad and Remote again, andrews mic flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, listen, you enjoy You enjoy it for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of this week, and you've earned it. You're holding it down.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. Blake. We've got this crazy story about

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<v Speaker 2>the President. We're gonna get into it in the next segment. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really important about him being moved into

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<v Speaker 2>a catering cart and using the press as decoy. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of intrigue in this, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>really fascinating. But I have to spike the football. We

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<v Speaker 2>have to say we called this. These clips are coming

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<v Speaker 2>out one by one that are essentially proving us right.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I mean by that is last week, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a conversation about lower elites. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the danger of lower elites. In many ways,

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<v Speaker 2>the French Revolution was led by lower elites. The Bolshevik

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<v Speaker 2>Revolution a little more complicated, but also a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the energy, the force behind it led by lower elites.

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<v Speaker 2>The rise of DSA is led by lower elites. And

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<v Speaker 2>what do I mean by that? And Blake is very

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<v Speaker 2>proficient on this topic. But these are highly educated or

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<v Speaker 2>at least credential. I'm not saying they're wise, but they've

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<v Speaker 2>gone to school and checked the box and got the

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<v Speaker 2>piece of paper. Low performing, lesser nobles. If you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to use the French Revolution or Bolshevik Revolution vernacular. They

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<v Speaker 2>believe they should be entitled to more Blake, more wealth,

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<v Speaker 2>more power, more influence, more prestige. They want to feel important.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why they got the piece of paper. We

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<v Speaker 2>told at least we're at least probably three generations in

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<v Speaker 2>now Blake. We have told young people just go to college,

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<v Speaker 2>get the degree, study sociology and communications, and you will

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<v Speaker 2>be rich, you will be successful, everything will work out

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<v Speaker 2>for you. And then it turns out, guess what, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something called inflation, oh, the rise of AI. Oh. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>we've deluded the value of a credential piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 2>So now because too many people are going to college,

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<v Speaker 2>this is why call it. Charlie said college in the scams.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have all these over educated, smart, stupid people

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<v Speaker 2>that are actually behind the rise of DSA and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>play one clip and I'll get your reaction. On this

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<v Speaker 2>other side, Blake, this is DSA CoA chair Megan Romer.

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<v Speaker 2>She's admitting that her political organization is composed of downwardly mobile,

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<v Speaker 2>disproportionately educated lower elites as we would call them, so

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<v Speaker 2>not too What else did you learn about the PTB?

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<v Speaker 4>Their goals, their theory of change, and.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, any obstacles that they've kind of come across

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<v Speaker 5>they're open about.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's like we have the problem. It's sort

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<v Speaker 6>of downwardly mobile, disproportionally educated compared to the general population,

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<v Speaker 6>dispersonally white, disproportion you know, so similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you were the one that turned me on to

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<v Speaker 2>this idea, and I think I think you articulate it brilliantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is a disgruntled, embittered, highly educated, downwardly mobile lower

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<v Speaker 2>elite so dangerous and so radicalized in this current moment?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, certainly, why are they dangerous? A lot of it

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<v Speaker 3>is specifically the ideas they marinate in. So as you said,

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<v Speaker 3>they're highly educated, They've gone through our school system, which

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<v Speaker 3>very much loves to inclicate radical ideas, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>them really embrace them specifically because of often that downward

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<v Speaker 3>mobility aspect to it. A lot of them may be thought,

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<v Speaker 3>if I absolutely maximally commit to this ideology that anti America,

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<v Speaker 3>anti white people, maybe I will be rewarded for it,

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<v Speaker 3>And instead they often weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>They were Usually they.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead ends up stuck in some dead end job. They're

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<v Speaker 3>an adjunct faculty member making thirty five thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 3>year and that's never going to change. Or they're temporarily

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<v Speaker 3>getting a barista job and that turns out that becomes

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<v Speaker 3>a much more permanent thing. They're temporary work doing a

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<v Speaker 3>delivery driving that becomes more long. When we say lower elite,

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<v Speaker 3>it almost might be better to say aspiring elite, or someone

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<v Speaker 3>who feels they should be in a higher position. And

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<v Speaker 3>one thing that makes them dangerous is they're usually at

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<v Speaker 3>least pretty good box checkers that they're the people who

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<v Speaker 3>are able to They're good at organizing, they're good at

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<v Speaker 3>checking boxes. They're good at getting politically involved. They're good

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<v Speaker 3>at articulating ideas and proposing policies. That doesn't mean those

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<v Speaker 3>policies are good. They're often insanely destructive, but they have

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<v Speaker 3>more of this capacity to actually affect political change than

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<v Speaker 3>just someone who's checked out, a guy who works as

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<v Speaker 3>a handy man in Middle America and doesn't really pay

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<v Speaker 3>attention to politics that much. They have much more compat

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<v Speaker 3>They feel invested in how America operates, and when they're unhappy,

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<v Speaker 3>when they're downwardly mobile, they're much more invested in potentially

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<v Speaker 3>blowing the whole thing up. And we talked about how

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of revolutions come from that. America has more

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<v Speaker 3>people who feel that they deserve to be high end

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<v Speaker 3>government officials, university professors, big art popular artists, or show

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<v Speaker 3>business people. We have more people who feel they should

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<v Speaker 3>be that, who want to be that, than aren't capable

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<v Speaker 3>of being that, and that's creating a lot of resentment,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of anger. And when you couple that with

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<v Speaker 3>the way that they've all been educated in radical ideas,

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<v Speaker 3>that creates a lot of danger. We mentioned other revolutions

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<v Speaker 3>came from people like that. The American Revolution was one

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<v Speaker 3>elite replacing another. They threw out a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>British connected elite. They had this native colonial elite take

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<v Speaker 3>over the country. And it was great because they had

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<v Speaker 3>good ideas, they had good values, they cared about the

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<v Speaker 3>people of the country, and they wanted the country to

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<v Speaker 3>do well, and so we thrived. When you have people

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<v Speaker 3>who despise a lot of the country, as a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of our lower elites plainly do, our aspiring elites plainly do.

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<v Speaker 3>Are imported foreign would be elites plainly do. When you

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<v Speaker 3>have people who hate America's historical values, hate America's historical people,

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<v Speaker 3>are often very mentally unwell themselves. A lot of dangerous

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<v Speaker 3>cropping up. And we're seeing that now with these DSA

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<v Speaker 3>candidates who just are openly talking about their psychotic breaks

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<v Speaker 3>that they've had in the past, their desire to abolish

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<v Speaker 3>American holidays, as Hassan Piker was the other day, his

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<v Speaker 3>desire to impoverish the American middle class, very resentment driven

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<v Speaker 3>individuals that we're working with here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's their capacity for resentment and to act

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<v Speaker 2>upon that resentment is going to be greater then, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's we have another clip that proves this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this DSA's Francis Gill talking about this tot eighteen.

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<v Speaker 7>Do Alsayed's victory in the Democratic primary in the Senate

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<v Speaker 7>in Michigan. Of the fifteen counties where a majority do

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<v Speaker 7>not have a college degree.

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<v Speaker 8>He lost every one of them over.

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<v Speaker 7>Fifteen In the counties with high education like you, he won.

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<v Speaker 7>So how can you say you're for the working class

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<v Speaker 7>when working class counties in Detroit and elsewhere voted against

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<v Speaker 7>your candidate.

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<v Speaker 9>People who are highly educated in this country were promised

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<v Speaker 9>this path of economic success. But really what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 9>is that there's this huge downward mobility problem because our society,

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<v Speaker 9>the skills are so tipped in one direction to benefit

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<v Speaker 9>the rich and the wealthy.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that of all the people Blake that should

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<v Speaker 2>be getting ahead, it's her, it's her fellow lower elites.

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<v Speaker 2>They went to school, they did the thing, they got educated,

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<v Speaker 2>and even they are having downward mobility issues. And therefore

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<v Speaker 2>the system is rigged and it must be brought down.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to make sure that all of those

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<v Speaker 2>working class people that we claim to represent understand that

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<v Speaker 2>we're the philosopher kings that know better than them, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to lead them to the promised land. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of peoples to burn down around it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of people who think they should deserve

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<v Speaker 3>to run America because they stayed in school a long

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<v Speaker 3>time and got a lot of degrees, and we should

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<v Speaker 3>be very afraid of those people.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Blake. So we got this crazy story, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>where apparently it's contradicting public statements. Trump took a secret

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<v Speaker 2>flight from Turkey amid an Iranian threat. So the White

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<v Speaker 2>House said the President was a board Air Force one

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<v Speaker 2>but as he was leaving this NATO summit in Turkey,

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<v Speaker 2>instead his departure included an elaborate ruse that concealed his

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<v Speaker 2>travel and it included a catering cart, which is it's

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy story, but it kind of underscores just how

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<v Speaker 2>serious the threat is against President Trump. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>documented ten different times where he's been nearly like an

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<v Speaker 2>attempted assassination or documented threat against his life, and we

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<v Speaker 2>knew there had to have been more, and there turns

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<v Speaker 2>out there is. There's up to five different places where

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<v Speaker 2>he's been hidden in the course of just traveling about.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the latest one from the Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump. It's like he's so heavily hated. He they've

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<v Speaker 3>whipped up this frenzy about him for years on end

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<v Speaker 3>at this point that we had to endure obviously the

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<v Speaker 3>fascist Nazi stuff. So they've stoked endless hostility to him domestically,

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<v Speaker 3>and then now internationally we have to worry about these

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<v Speaker 3>things as well, that he does face a lot of danger.

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<v Speaker 3>He is this like, honestly, I just think about what

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<v Speaker 3>a dramatic historical figure he is and how it makes

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<v Speaker 3>it if you feel like there's a lot of I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to say that the and of God specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>though of course God's hand is on everything, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>just the way it's like, man, I am like totally

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<v Speaker 3>losing my ability to articulate this, but it's just the

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<v Speaker 3>world sort of seems to evolve around at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. And now he's at the top of the

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<v Speaker 2>hit list with the Iranians, and I have to play

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<v Speaker 2>this clip because CNN's really upset about this, and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>never guess why top fifteen.

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<v Speaker 10>It's all I think this very elaborate a shell game

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<v Speaker 10>that the Secret Service in the White House orchestrated. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 10>necessarily match with the explanation that the President put out

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<v Speaker 10>at the time for this switch and aircraft between the

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<v Speaker 10>Cutter donated Air Force one, which is that black and

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<v Speaker 10>red plane, and the.

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<v Speaker 4>Legacy Air Force one.

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<v Speaker 10>He said at the time that he wanted to show

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<v Speaker 10>it off to troops who are positioned in the UK.

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<v Speaker 10>Now we understand that it is these threats from Iran

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<v Speaker 10>that led to this switch it all. I think also

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<v Speaker 10>led to the people who actually did fly on the

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<v Speaker 10>blue and white plane, you know, reporters and staff, to

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<v Speaker 10>become unwitting decoys in this ruse.

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<v Speaker 2>The reporters, Yeah, the reporters were at risk. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know there's a clip of him later on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane where he's saying, you know, listen, I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the hit list for the Iranians. And

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<v Speaker 2>that means if this is a dangerous flight, you're on

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<v Speaker 2>a dangerous flight too. I do think that's important for

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<v Speaker 2>journalists to realize that, you know, there is a threat

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<v Speaker 2>when you we travel abroad with the president. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll just we'll keep playing these clips. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fascinating story and it's a look inside what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to show this catering cart that apparently

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<v Speaker 2>he was one sixty two. This is the catering truck

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<v Speaker 2>that an image of it as it's servicing Air Force one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it appears that he was led into one of

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<v Speaker 2>these catering trucks that kind of comes up to the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the vehicle or of the of the plane

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<v Speaker 2>that is. I mean, but let's just actually these images

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<v Speaker 2>are fascinating. I mean, with April twenty nine, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, I mean, we should just be glad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so good that he did that the McDonald's photo

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<v Speaker 3>op in twenty twenty four. He was training himself up

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<v Speaker 3>to be involved in You know, he's a natural. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure people are making have tried to make fun of him,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think President Trump he strikes me as a

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<v Speaker 3>natural be like, yep, we're gonna we're gonna go riding

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<v Speaker 3>this catering truck. Like he's very specifically because he's so

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<v Speaker 3>confident in himself, he's so good at adapting to all

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<v Speaker 3>of these different environments. I find the visual very interesting

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<v Speaker 3>and funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Newsweek had this story about five different places, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>strange places Donald Trump is hidden. So in April twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, Trump hid in the highest regency near the

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco Airport. That's one sixty three, So that's one

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<v Speaker 2>place he's hit. September fifteenth, twenty twenty four, Trump hid

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<v Speaker 2>in an armored golf cart. One sixty six. You can

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<v Speaker 2>throw that up. So there's the armored golf cart. In

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<v Speaker 2>November of twenty sixteen, Trump hit in the twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>Club in Manhattan. One sixty seven. Throw that up it

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<v Speaker 2>and it's an old speakeasy by the way. May twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump hid in a bunker beneath the White House, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's one sixty five. You can you can see that image.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's all very fascinating to think of all

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<v Speaker 2>the elaborate ploys that President Trump has had to engage

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<v Speaker 2>in and the Secret Service have had to engage in

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<v Speaker 2>to keep him alive. And it's terrifying. Actually, right you

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<v Speaker 2>think of Butler, We were, you know, a couple centimeters

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<v Speaker 2>away from who knows what terrible things could have happened

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<v Speaker 2>here you go.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Scott Jenning's I think, expressing what a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us feel about this story SOT fourteen.

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<v Speaker 12>It sounds to me like the threat was unusual. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>it sounds like this was a very very serious threat

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<v Speaker 12>to the President's safety. And when you consider that he's

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<v Speaker 12>already survived a numerous assassination attempts or people at least

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<v Speaker 12>thinking about assassinating him, and you consider the region that

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<v Speaker 12>he was in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad they engaged in.

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<v Speaker 12>All this cloak and dagger and all this deception to

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<v Speaker 12>keep him safe. I fear for him and what might

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<v Speaker 12>happen to him every single day. And you know, this

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<v Speaker 12>story raised up the hairs on the back of my

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<v Speaker 12>neck when you consider how they had to move him around.

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<v Speaker 12>But I'm glad they did it, and I'm glad they

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<v Speaker 12>got him back to the United States safely. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 12>he was at the meeting over there by the way.

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<v Speaker 12>It was important for the American President to be there.

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<v Speaker 12>But you can only imagine, and David knows this, the

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<v Speaker 12>level of threat and the level of alarm that would

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<v Speaker 12>have been required to set up this kind of deception

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<v Speaker 12>must have been extremely heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And at him, it shows the catering cart that

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<v Speaker 2>the president was stowed away in to keep him safe.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just fascinated that. I'm just fascinated that

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<v Speaker 3>there's an armored golf cart. I find that amazing and

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Well, I'm sure you could get your hands on

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<v Speaker 2>one if you had enough money and where with all

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<v Speaker 2>Blake so we'll check that out. And thankfully the Iranians

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<v Speaker 2>Or great to have you back on the show. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to start with this tweet because it's stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>percolating in and you can feel it rising. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is Chang jank Wiger from The Young Turks I've met

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<v Speaker 2>I've met him before, came to one of our events.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, if Republicans think they're going to beat Abdul

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<v Speaker 2>Lsayed by just pointing out that he's Muslim, I got

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<v Speaker 2>bad news for them. We already know that not going

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<v Speaker 2>to work with independence. Being Muslim helps these days because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a sign that you're not going to sell out

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<v Speaker 2>to Israel. And the reason I bring this up is

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<v Speaker 2>sure Chenk is a is a far left guy, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe we should expect him to say something

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<v Speaker 2>like this, but you have felt this. I guess there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bubbling up, this percolating of pro Muslim sentiment, even

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<v Speaker 2>from voices you wouldn't necessarily expect it from, And I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe most of it is coming from a hatred

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<v Speaker 2>of Israel, anti Semitism, feeling like the Iran War was

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<v Speaker 2>a product of Israel's influence. But we need to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of brass taxes and explain that just because you might

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<v Speaker 2>hold skepticism or animosity towards Israel or something, that does

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<v Speaker 2>not mean that we want to import millions of Muslims.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want you to come on this show because

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<v Speaker 2>you're one of the few voices out there that seems

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<v Speaker 2>to have kept their head, is willing to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>level fair critiques against Israel, but also understands the threat

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<v Speaker 2>that Islam poses. The floor is yours, aren't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 13>I think this is incredibly important. Look, as you said,

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<v Speaker 13>I'm more than happy to point out the problems that

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<v Speaker 13>I have with our current relationship with Israel. I think

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<v Speaker 13>they're real, and they're valid, and they need to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 13>But that does not mean that the enemy of my

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<v Speaker 13>enemy is now suddenly my friend and that all of

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<v Speaker 13>a sudden, I should be joining up with people who

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<v Speaker 13>ultimately seek my destruction. Look, Islam has no place in

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<v Speaker 13>the West.

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<v Speaker 4>It does not respect anything about Christianity.

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<v Speaker 13>It hates Christianity, it hates the West, it hates our values,

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<v Speaker 13>and it is incompatible with being in the United States.

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<v Speaker 13>We simply should not have any Muslims in the United States.

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<v Speaker 13>We should end immigration by Muslims to the United States immediately,

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<v Speaker 13>and we should work to denaturalize as many as possible.

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<v Speaker 13>There's simply no reason that we should be building mosques

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<v Speaker 13>or entire Muslim towns in the state of Texas. They

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<v Speaker 13>do not belong here, and we should not hesitate to

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<v Speaker 13>say that. However, there is a counterpoint to this, which

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<v Speaker 13>is a lot of people find it very con convenient

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<v Speaker 13>to silence criticism of Israel by saying, well, if you

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<v Speaker 13>do believe anything like that, you must then be allied

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<v Speaker 13>with Muslims. You must want hoards of Muslims to come

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<v Speaker 13>into the US. You're ultimately a trader because you know

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<v Speaker 13>hating Israel is your only driving cause. This works both ways.

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<v Speaker 13>If you push people to the extreme, if you tell

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<v Speaker 13>people that opposing a bad relationship with Israel in the

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<v Speaker 13>United States puts you on the side of Islam. Then eventually,

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<v Speaker 13>if the situation gets bad enough, some people will believe

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<v Speaker 13>that and they will go that way. For the same reason,

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<v Speaker 13>if you tell people acknowledging that there is more crime

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<v Speaker 13>in black communities makes you a racist, and then at

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<v Speaker 13>some point people are gonna be like, well, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 13>just a racist.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not the language you want.

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<v Speaker 13>You don't want to corner people and put them in

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<v Speaker 13>this position because some people will choose incorrectly. I think

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<v Speaker 13>it's a bad decision, but you can't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 13>you only offer people two options when they choose one

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<v Speaker 13>of the ones that you forced on them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's so well said orin I really do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've told Blake this one hundred percent of a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch the the people on the internet that give me

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<v Speaker 2>the most positive sentiment towards Israel are the really low

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<v Speaker 2>IQ anti Israel slop you know, spergs. We call them

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<v Speaker 2>juice bergs. Okay, I don't want to participate in anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I get cornered, but I have legitimate critiques

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<v Speaker 2>of our current situation with Israel. I think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a foreign government. I'm America. I'm American. I'm America first,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm allowed to do that as an American. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you corner me, it makes me want to defend them.

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<v Speaker 2>And the same can go either way, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing that play out in this Islam dialogue, which

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<v Speaker 2>you know Charlie. I take the position that Charlie always

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<v Speaker 2>took that it is incompatible with the West, and there

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<v Speaker 2>is a difference between micro and macro. You can meet

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<v Speaker 2>very nice Muslims and that is not you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a condemnation of every Muslim you're going to meet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what is our proper posture towards immigration immigration from

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<v Speaker 2>Muslim countries? And I will posit this question one more

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<v Speaker 2>time to the people that are prone to defend Muslims.

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<v Speaker 2>There is roughly fifty Muslim majority countries in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are they moving to the Western nations. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>because they're drawn to our freedoms or something like that. No,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a long term plan to take over Western

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<v Speaker 2>nations like America, like the UK. Blake. You know this firsthand.

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<v Speaker 2>You travel with Charlie to London and you guys were

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<v Speaker 2>shocked at what you saw there absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I just remember we're in one of the richest neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 3>in London and there's Arabic writing on the store windows. That's,

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<v Speaker 3>of course because Arab sheikhs loved to travel to London

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<v Speaker 3>to shop. We went into the hotel I was staying at.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a third, maybe more, of the TV's channels

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<v Speaker 3>were actually various Middle Eastern TV channels. I saw Spiro

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<v Speaker 3>the Dragon in Arabic, which was rather funny. I will say,

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<v Speaker 3>but or one thing I'm wondering is what do you

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<v Speaker 3>think drives this the most? Because I can understand people saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>if any criticism of our relationship with Israel means you

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<v Speaker 3>love Islam, and some react that way. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>another factor here, frankly, is just I'm not sure how

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<v Speaker 3>to make it. I feel like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people who just organically they're trending towards Islam. I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's some people who have this idea Islam is more masculine,

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<v Speaker 3>it's less it's us cucked as they would say. They

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<v Speaker 3>like that, like Andrew tait Ethos of being really macho.

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<v Speaker 3>Anythink Islam supplies that. I feel there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people who just organically are going towards Islam just because

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<v Speaker 3>they like it, and I think that is probably worth

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<v Speaker 3>calling out. I don't like it when it's just this

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<v Speaker 3>is entirely happening because like anyone says, I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 3>because you attacked me and drove me towards them. I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people are just organically letting themselves

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<v Speaker 3>be pulled toward this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's possible.

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<v Speaker 13>Honestly, I don't have a lot of conversations with people

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<v Speaker 13>who are in any way interested in Islam or think

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<v Speaker 13>that it's gonna be, you know, something that's good for

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<v Speaker 13>the United States. I'm sure it's out there, but organically

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<v Speaker 13>I just never run into it my day to day.

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<v Speaker 13>There is something to be said, you know, to quote

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<v Speaker 13>sadly a Muslim here. You know, sometimes when people see

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<v Speaker 13>a strong horse, they follow the strong horse.

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<v Speaker 4>And if people look.

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<v Speaker 13>At Islam and they see it ascend it, they see

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<v Speaker 13>it conquering, they see it confident in its culture. Some

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 13>people say, well, Barry have something that we're lacking, and

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<v Speaker 13>so I'm going to follow the strong horse.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a mistake, but that's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 13>I think the bigger truth here is ultimately that as

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<v Speaker 13>controversial as this statement sometimes is, politics is about friend

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<v Speaker 13>and enemy, and it depends where you draw your friend distinction.

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<v Speaker 13>If you're drawing your friend distinction around support or opposition

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<v Speaker 13>to Israel, it's going to put you in really weird places.

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<v Speaker 13>If your friend coalition isn't entirely in support of Israel,

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<v Speaker 13>you're going to find yourself allying with gross neo cons

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<v Speaker 13>to fight pointless wars that destroy the United States. If

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<v Speaker 13>your entire friend coalition is drawn against Israel, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 13>find yourself allying with Hassan Piker and idiots like that,

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<v Speaker 13>people who are dangerous and want to destroy the United States,

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<v Speaker 13>who explicitly say that they want to destroy the white

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<v Speaker 13>middle class in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>These people are your blood enemies. They're not your allies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's play the clip because this just surface. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a San Piker saying what you just said. Loves

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of impoverishing the white middle class. Not three

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<v Speaker 2>men Dommy's aid.

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<v Speaker 14>His top aid see a Weaver said, if you don't

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<v Speaker 14>believe in the government's sacred right to seize property.

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<v Speaker 2>It's over and impoverish the white middle class. Beast Mode.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her so much, biast Mode, you know, and listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was tempted to say, and I think I did

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<v Speaker 2>say it that you know, they're guiding ideology is just

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<v Speaker 2>hating white people. Right, But then then this clip surface today,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not twenty one what black people care about?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, black people care about this. Black people care about that.

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<v Speaker 13>Like, shut the fuck up, that's not how politics works.

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<v Speaker 5>Well back to a better time when lynchings were happening.

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<v Speaker 5>This is what I like as a black man. Are

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 5>you always doing too much with black people? Leave them alone?

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<v Speaker 5>I want to go back to lynching, Like, I get it,

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<v Speaker 5>but relax, man, shut the up. Okay, you got me, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you got me, because I'm off racist person.

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<v Speaker 2>So really, what motivates these people? Yeah, they hate white people,

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<v Speaker 2>but they hate anybody that's getting in the way of

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<v Speaker 2>the rise of communism of the DSA to called DSA,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's really communism. They hate anything that stands in

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<v Speaker 2>their way. This is like third world tribalism. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what America has avoided for our whole history until this moment. Orn.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I think this is just evidence of him trying

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<v Speaker 13>to shove black people off of the progressive stack, where

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 13>we're the new people who should be ascended. We're the

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<v Speaker 13>people who should be the center of identity politics because

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<v Speaker 13>as you say, ultimately, yeah, it is communism at some level,

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<v Speaker 13>but the communism is just ideological window dressing four tribal politics.

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<v Speaker 4>People who look like me, who.

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<v Speaker 13>Come from where I come from, they're the ones who

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<v Speaker 13>should be on top, whether it's in the Progressive coalition

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<v Speaker 13>or anywhere else. And again, this is why we should

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<v Speaker 13>not draw our friend enemy distinction across Israel in either direction.

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<v Speaker 4>It should be.

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<v Speaker 13>What's good for America. So if a relationship with Israel

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:57.959
<v Speaker 13>is good for America, then we do it. And if

0:26:57.960 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 13>it's bad for America, we reject it. And we don't

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 13>get called anything other than patriot. When we do what's

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<v Speaker 13>right for America, and when we reject Islam and send

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<v Speaker 13>it packing exactly where it belongs, we do that unified

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<v Speaker 13>because it's best for the United States. And that's the

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<v Speaker 13>only thing that should ever drive any of our decisions

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<v Speaker 13>when it comes to politics.

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<v Speaker 1>What recommendations do you have for Republicans, you know, heading

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>intimate chairms right now, for.

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<v Speaker 11>All the one thing is we have jihadis being elected

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<v Speaker 11>all over the place. These are people that have been

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<v Speaker 11>not successful. They are people that have been in many

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 11>cases spanues. They come from other failed countries and they

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 11>come here and they tell us how to run our country.

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<v Speaker 15>Thank you, Donald Trump for continuing to talk about me,

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<v Speaker 15>for keeping me at the top of your mind. I

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<v Speaker 15>think what he's afraid of is that I'm not afraid

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<v Speaker 15>of him, and he knows it. So, you know, people

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 15>like that have a sense of people who are willing

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 15>to stand up to him, which is why he's trying

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 15>to preempt to. Now, So Donnie, if you're watching, I've

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 15>got bigger hands than you, I've got a better agenda

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 15>than you. I'm anna beat your guy, and I'm looking

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 15>forward to reminding you of that for two years when

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 15>I'm in the US of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or it raises the question back to the jank tweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a losing strategy to just call out the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they're Muslims? What do we have to do

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>to beat them? Especially Lsied and this Senate race.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I do think that ultimately Islam is not overall

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<v Speaker 13>popular in the United States, that I think Chenk is

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 13>doing a little bit of wish casting there. However, I

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<v Speaker 13>gotta say it's not through any effort of the Republicans

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 13>that that's the case. Remember that after nine to eleven,

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 13>plenty of Republicans rubber stamped importing as many Muslims as

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<v Speaker 13>we could so we could all show that we weren't Islamophobic.

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<v Speaker 4>It was George W.

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<v Speaker 13>Bush who pushed the idea that Islam was a religion

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<v Speaker 13>of peace. So congratulations that propaganda worked. The Republicans manufactured

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 13>exactly the situation that they're crying about. As always that said,

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 13>we do have to be honest about something here, which

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 13>is that Israel is unpopular even with people who don't

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 13>like Islam. And so when he says, well, at least

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 13>being Muslim shows that you're not going to be on

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 13>the side of Israel better for worse, there is some

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 13>truth to that, and the Republicans got to deal with that.

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 4>The right really has to deal with this fact.

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<v Speaker 13>Israel is not popular and it's not getting any more popular,

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<v Speaker 13>and that is going to continue to be the trend

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<v Speaker 13>line going forward. If you lash yourselves to Israel and

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<v Speaker 13>the cause of Israel in the United States, that's going

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<v Speaker 13>to be an electoral loser moving forward, no matter what happens,

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<v Speaker 13>and you can say that's anti Semitism. You can attack

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 13>people and call them all the ugly names you want,

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<v Speaker 13>but people simply don't want to go to war in

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<v Speaker 13>Iran because Israel once part of Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, but hold on urn like the problem here,

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 3>these people will not actually be satisfied if we just

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 3>get out of the wars. It's very clear if you

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 3>look at their podcasts, every single episode is about Israel.

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 3>They endlessly talk about them. They force it into every

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 3>unrelated issue that has nothing to do with the war. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it kind of fair to say that, like they're

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed with They were obsessed with Israel before the Iran

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 3>war started. These people, I think they just they do

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<v Speaker 3>fixate on this because they actually have an obsession with it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not actually a byproduct of any war that we're

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<v Speaker 3>involved in. Even if that stuff doesn't help.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I got to say, I think that that's obviously

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 13>true of a subset, right, Like there are very clearly

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 13>people with a track record of this being of their obsession.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 13>I think there very is obviously an anti Israel, you know,

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 13>basically like an industry going on at the moment. A

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 13>lot of people getting a lot of clicks in views

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 13>because of that. However, that the existence of that reality

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 13>doesn't therefore erase the fact that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 13>just organically do not like the fruits of our.

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<v Speaker 4>Current relationship with Israel.

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<v Speaker 13>That doesn't mean the people who are ultimately leaning into

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<v Speaker 13>anti Semitism or trying to drive a lot of hatred

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<v Speaker 13>are doing the right thing by any means. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 13>mean that they're you know, consistent hatred is somehow justified

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<v Speaker 13>by current events. But the point is the point, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>we can't, as we've talked about when it comes to

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<v Speaker 13>the price of burritos, you can't sit there and brate

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 13>the American people for saying, hey, you know, my bills

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 13>are too high and then say, well, you're just too

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 13>poor and stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't understand.

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<v Speaker 13>If people look at the relationship with is and say

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 13>this is unhealthy and we shouldn't be involved with it.

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<v Speaker 13>If you turn around electure and say well that just

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 13>means you hate Jews and you're just like these people

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 13>who are profiting off it, well that's going to go

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 13>over electorally exactly the same way they're telling people they

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 13>don't need to worry about the price.

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Of gas or milk will go well.

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<v Speaker 3>But or the reason I push back on that is,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very obvious a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 3>at least aspire to be pretty mainstream voices in American

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 3>politics clearly do hate Jews, and like I think, I

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<v Speaker 3>just I find it a little frustrating if the take

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 3>is this has only happened because they were pushed into it,

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<v Speaker 3>when if they were doing it before any of the

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<v Speaker 3>wars in question, and they'll clearly be doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But bigger picture, you were mentioning that a lot of

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>people favor Islam because it has this strong horse element.

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>We see this in the UK where there's a lot

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>of like there's like British people who are converting to Islam.

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<v Speaker 3>It's popular for the lower classes to do that. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think it's heavily from organic appeal or do you

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<v Speaker 3>think it's kind of like they get into it because

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 3>we actually have this elite class that coddles.

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<v Speaker 2>Them through everything.

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<v Speaker 3>They get to come in as refugees, they it's difficult

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 3>to deport them. They get to create their little fiefdoms

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 3>where the law doesn't apply, and this gives people the

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 3>impression Wow, they're strong and dynamic, when it's really more

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 3>like they're a plaything of George W. Bush types globalist

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 3>types who love having their pet Muslim immigrants in the

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 3>country and thus let them get away with whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I think there's nothing new about people ultimately looking

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<v Speaker 13>for a position somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>In the progressive stack, and if.

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<v Speaker 13>Islam ultimately lends that to Lim along with the advantages

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 13>of kind of that tribal advantage, then I think, yes,

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<v Speaker 13>that those things do stack up in a way that

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 13>a lot of people became trans because it gave them

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<v Speaker 13>some special identity, and all of a sudden, the normal

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 13>white guy who was rejected from everything now has this

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 13>amazing shield against all criticism and a advancement plan to

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<v Speaker 13>the top of the you know, the hierarchy. The same

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<v Speaker 13>thing could be true of Islam, especially if it continues

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 13>to gain this kind of community power, because they're allowed

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 13>to organize in a way that Native Americans or Native

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<v Speaker 13>UK Brits are not allowed to do.

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<v Speaker 9>So.

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<v Speaker 13>I think the preferential treatment is certainly an aspect, but

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<v Speaker 13>I just want to remind people again, just to reiterate

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 13>on this. There are, of course people who are pushing

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 13>the anti Israel thing for their own advantage. Who really

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 13>did hate Israel or Jewish people in general before all

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 13>of this started. That's real, that's valid. I'm not arguing

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 13>against that. That said, you cannot take that and then

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 13>dismiss the general feeling in the United States that.

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<v Speaker 4>The relationship with Israel is deleterious.

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<v Speaker 13>These things might be connected at some level, but they

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 13>are separate, and blaming one entirely on the other ultimately

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 13>leads us to bad political analysis. Even if we don't

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 13>like the reality on the ground, we need to stay

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 13>aligned with reality and make arguments that push in the

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 13>direction of winning on those issues. We shouldn't be blinded

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<v Speaker 13>by the we remy not like any given personality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or I mean, I'm with you in the sense

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>that it's kind of like the Buriedo debate. It's like,

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you could be mad that prices are higher, but you

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 2>have to be honest with your voters about what they're

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>actually their lived experiences. And I think there's no question

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<v Speaker 2>that the Iran War conflict, whatever you want to call it,

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>has exacerbated some of those tensions, some of those feelings

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>of anti Israel sentiment. We don't have to agree with them,

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 2>we don't have to love it. But you know, I

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>think there needs to be voices like ours, and we

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>try and be this on the show, and I know

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>you try and beat it be as well or in

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 2>where you're acknowledging a reality, a political reality, but you're

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 2>also trying to carve out a third way, which says,

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>we don't hate Jews because they're Jews. We are allowed

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to have political differences with Israel if our interests are

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 2>not aligned, and that's okay, but you can do one

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>without the other. And I think just being a sane,

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, voice in this space is so critically important

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.720
<v Speaker 2>in this moment, but we have to acknowledge the political

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>realities as well. Oron McIntyre host the oron McIntyre Show,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks guys, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>a friend, and what I remember most wasn't just what

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 2>people saw on stage, It was what was behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love

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<v Speaker 2>for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others

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<v Speaker 2>to live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed that following

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<v Speaker 2>Christ wasn't something you compartmentalized. He didn't put it in

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>a box. He lived it out loud. It shaped how

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<v Speaker 2>he lived, how he served, how he treated people every

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<v Speaker 2>single day. Charlie Kirk American Martyr captures that heart. This

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<v Speaker 2>our own faith when it's tested. Hope that you'll watch

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<v Speaker 14>Inflation has deccelerated a lot. There was a lot of

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 14>job creation under Joe Biden, but a huge chuck of

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 14>it was an increase in government workers. The number of

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 14>federal government workers rose to three million, the highest odd

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 14>record by the time President Trump took office. We've cut

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 14>that by ten percent already. But when you hire all

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 14>these government workers and pay them salaries and ask them

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 14>to do whatever it is they're doing. Then that's a

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 14>demand side stimulus, the kind of thing that causes inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Kevin Hassett, director of the White House National

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Economic Council, is joining us now, and he's like, mister optimism,

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 2>all right. So when you want to know what is

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>working and what the Trump administration is doing that's actually

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>having profound to economic impacts, Kevin is the guy to

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 2>bring on. So I was like, I gotta get Kevin

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>back on. So it's good to see you, sir, Thank

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you for joining us. I want to have like a

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 2>good news segment here about the economy. I know there

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 2>are headwinds. I know there are issues when it comes

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>to the price of you know, at the pomp and

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>things like that. But give us you know, you're gonna

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 2>have the floor for this whole time, Kevin, if you

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>want it. But I want to know what you're looking

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>at in the economy that's having profound impacts and if

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 2>we keep stacking these wins together will actually experience some

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 2>really great things. We got to stay the course, though,

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 2>So what are you looking at right now? Right?

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<v Speaker 14>You know it's great to be back on the show,

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.359
<v Speaker 14>by the way, and you know, with you guys, you're

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 14>doing such a great job. You know, before we go

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 14>into all the amazing things that we can talk about,

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 14>one of the things that you might have noticed when

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 14>you're watching the TV clips like the Sunday shows I

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 14>was on this weekend, is that the left likes to

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 14>sort of box conservatives with the following rhetoric. They'll say, hey,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, we're looking at the survey of how Americans

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 14>feel about the economy, and they're as depressed about the

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 14>state of the economy as they've ever been. In fact,

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 14>if you look at the Michigan survey of consumer sentiment,

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 14>it's the lowest sentiment on record. And we can talk about,

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 14>you know, what's wrong with the survey or anything, maybe

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 14>if you care, but the bottom line is then they say,

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 14>if I start to say something, well, well there's this

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.879
<v Speaker 14>good news about this, there's this good news about that,

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 14>then they'll say, you know, you're just out of touch.

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.240
<v Speaker 14>You don't care what the people think. What is wrong

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 14>with you? And so by setting it up, characterizing the

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 14>conversation with a setup that American people are not seeing it,

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 14>So what is wrong with you to even talk about

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 14>the good things that it makes it so that you're

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 14>tempted not to talk about the good things because it

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 14>makes you look insensitive.

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>And it's just.

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<v Speaker 14>Interesting that that logical trick is something that all the

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 14>like leet left media people are playing whenever I go

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 14>on TV lately, because there's been some surveys that say

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.760
<v Speaker 14>that Americans are really upset about the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, you.

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<v Speaker 14>Know, we feel the pain at the gas pump, and

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 14>we understand beat prices are high, and we're sensitive to

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 14>wanting every American to have a healthy, fulfilling life. Uh,

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 14>But they're trying to make it so we can't talk

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 14>about the good stuff. And so it's a real great

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 14>opportunity to be here to talk about all the good stuff.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 14>And I think that the headline thing that we're looking

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 14>at is just, uh, you know, new factory construction. Uh

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 14>the right now, the new factory construction is historically.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 2>High in the US. UH.

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 14>And it's happening because of stuff of the big beautiful

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 14>bill that's working. Remember we expensed uh factory construction, even

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:53.720
<v Speaker 14>the buildings.

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:54.359
<v Speaker 13>Uh.

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<v Speaker 14>It's happening because President Trump's trade policy has made people

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 14>think oh, I got to move the stuff on shore.

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<v Speaker 14>But if you go back to at the end of

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 14>the Biden administration, then the typical number for construction for

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 14>non residential buildings, the job support was negative. So we

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 14>were hemorrhaging construction jobs. Since President Trump took office, we've

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 14>gained about one hundred thousand jobs of construction workers who

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 14>are building factories, which is extremely unprecedented. And so when

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 14>you think about how the economy is doing, then understand

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 14>that there's an investment boom going on that's unlike anything

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 14>that we've ever seen. And what that means is that

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<v Speaker 14>as we go into the second half of the year,

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<v Speaker 14>then they're going to put the machines into those buildings,

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<v Speaker 14>They're going to plug the machines in, they're going to

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 14>hire workers to run the machines. And there's no way

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 14>that that can be a bad news story. The one

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 14>thing that people talk about that they do say is

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 14>a bad news story. But I want to talk about

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 14>just talked about a little bit on that clip, is

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 14>that because President Trump has secured the border and he's

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 14>also reduced government workers by a lot, then you know,

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 14>basically the number of jobs you need to keep the

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 14>economy on a positive trajectory is lower than it was

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 14>under Biden because he let twenty million illegals in and

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 14>they were all getting Social Security never so they could work.

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 14>And so the jobs that were created out of Biden

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 14>were illegals and government workers, and both of those have

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 14>gone down a lot under President Trump. And so when

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.280
<v Speaker 14>people say, oh, it feels like it's a really bad economy,

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 14>the truth is it's a bad economy for federal government workers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 14>It's a bad economy for illegals who don't have jobs anymore.

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<v Speaker 14>But for everybody else, most of the news is really

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 14>positive and good.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel more optimistic already. You're really right, Andrew, this

0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 3>guy is mister optimism. But there is such a key

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 3>thing there, and we were talking about this with Secretary

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Scott Bessant the other day as well, that it's almost

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 3>it's just so difficult with the rapid news cycle to

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 3>get people to appreciate anything that takes longer than a

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 3>week or two to achieve. And it makes sense that,

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 3>for example, securing the border, there's a short term shock

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 3>of all of these businesses were addicted to illegal or

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 3>amnestied labor that was low wage getting paid under the table.

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 3>So there's a short term increase in prices to things,

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 3>but in the long run, you're going to see higher

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 3>wages for the working class because they can go into

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 3>those jobs that are to may available. They can go

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 3>into these factories that we're able to build, and that's

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 3>going to be producing these long term dividends. But we

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 3>need to power through these short these short term terms

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 3>that are inevitable. They're just a fact of life, right.

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 14>And the thing that you mentioned is absolutely happening in

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 14>the data, and we'll say it this way that by

0:42:55.400 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 14>letting the border be uncontrolled and letting lower skilled folks,

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:04.720
<v Speaker 14>you know, stampede into the country and then take jobs,

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 14>then what happened was that the average wage in the

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:13.280
<v Speaker 14>US under Joe Biden dropped by about three thousand dollars

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 14>per family over his four years, and so people actually

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 14>lost money in real terms and lost a lot of money.

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 14>It is one of the worst presidential records since we've

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 14>had data already going forward because of these factors. Then,

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 14>for manufacturing and construction workers, which are really really great jobs,

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 14>great paying jobs, the typical worker is making about four

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 14>thousand dollars more per year than they were making at

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 14>the start of the Trump term, and so you know,

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 14>President Biden created jobs that were really bad jobs and

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 14>weren't jobs that were taken by people who were native

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 14>born in the US. President Trump is creating great jobs

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 14>and the jobs are being taken by people who are

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:57.280
<v Speaker 14>native born US citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you look at that graph there, heaven, you

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 2>see that we just had up they you're seeing that

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 2>for the twenty fifth percentile for the median, that wages

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 2>are actually going up much faster than inflation. Now you've

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 2>lived through, I guess you know, four years of Biden inflation, COVID,

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>all the money printing, all this stuff. So you may

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 2>not feel it just yet, but that is a graph

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.240
<v Speaker 2>that shows you that we are on the right trajectory

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 2>where you're seeing hourly workers, salaried workers, real wages increasing

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>faster than inflation. You keep stacking that up quarter by

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>quarter by quarter, and then by the end of the

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 2>next two years, if we stay on the current path,

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.399
<v Speaker 2>as Blake said, you charged through, you press through, people

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 2>are gonna start feeling that you've got to grow your

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 2>way out. You know, Kevin, you made a really good

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 2>point here, and I think it can't be explained enough,

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 2>all right, and that's that there is this game that's

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 2>being played in the media that everything's terrible and if

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 2>you say that it's not, then you're a bad person.

0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm being accused of this, by the way, because I

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 2>accidentally sparked the whole burrito debate twenty dollars burritos, and

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 2>that was just me relating, and yeah, exactly, sorry about that.

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 2>It was me relating just a lived experience of our students,

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>right that they were like, man, it just feels expensive,

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I think that is real. But at

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the same time, then you have people like Bernie Sanders,

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and by the ways, that's just four years of you know,

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 2>cumulative thirty percent inflation and people are still like, hey,

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I still feel the inflation, okay, but Trump is we

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 2>are working our way out of this, and I think

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 2>that's so important. Right. So then Bernie Sanders gets up

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 2>and he posts this and he says that, you know,

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 2>childhood poverty rates and he puts America as the top

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty one point one percent of you know, our children

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 2>in poverty. And now kraymu who is a friend of

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the show, and Blake introduced us to him, and he

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 2>loved Charlie. Charlie loved him as well. He says, Bernie

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>is making a critical air. He's using the OECD's measure

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 2>of relative poverty, which is the proportion of children living

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:02.280
<v Speaker 2>in households with incomes below fifty percent of the national medium.

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>In other words, in inequality measure, not a poverty measure.

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.879
<v Speaker 2>So then he basically says, by the medium, nearly all

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 2>American states exceed European consumption. I want to talk about

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 2>this when because a lot of Americans do feel squeezed, right,

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 2>but in relative terms, our consumption remains extraordinarily high. We

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 2>remain extraordinarily blessed and rich in this nation. What is

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 2>your take on this argument that Bernie's making and what

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 2>is the air you think should be corrected? Right?

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 14>Well, well, obviously you hit it right on the head

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 14>that they're looking at relative numbers. And one of the

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 14>things that I remember is a study a few years

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 14>ago by a conservative think tank in Sweden called Timbro

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 14>and they looked at this question and they found that

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:55.840
<v Speaker 14>the average consumption of an American citizen who lives below

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 14>the poverty line, so you're only averaging the consumption of

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:02.760
<v Speaker 14>people who are below our poverty line, that that consumption

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 14>is higher than the average consumption in France.

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding. And so the fact is that if you.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 14>Look at absolute levels of welfare, then the US is

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:21.720
<v Speaker 14>like far outperforming all those socialists or near socialist European countries.

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.919
<v Speaker 14>And it's doing it for reasons that Charlie talked about

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 14>forever that free enterprise works. But in terms of the inflation,

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 14>let's go into that a little bit more of the

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 14>twenty dollars burrito, because what happened, don't forget, is that

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 14>COVID was over, and then the Biden and the Democrats

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 14>had a wish list of all the things that they

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 14>wanted to do. They spent trillions and trillions of dollars,

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 14>mailed checks to people, which is like dropping cash from

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 14>a helicopter, and created runaway inflation. The runaway inflation peaked

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:56.880
<v Speaker 14>at about ten percent, which meant that you know, everybody

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 14>lost their dollars from their salary. Everybody lost about ten

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 14>percent of their spending power. And we've made inflation go

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 14>down with our supply side policies, which increased supply, so

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 14>it puts outward pressure on prices. We've made inflation good

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 14>go down so much. The consumer price indecks. The last

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:17.800
<v Speaker 14>one that we got was negative on the top line,

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 14>and people say, oh, that was just energy prices. But

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 14>for core, which is everything else, the consumer price in

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 14>deck showed zero inflation, zero inflation. And then they have

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<v Speaker 14>this thing called the PCE, which is what the Fed's

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 14>favorite measure of inflation is. That was negative at the

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 14>top line and negative at the core. And the reason

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.759
<v Speaker 14>the core stuff is negative is because of all of

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 14>President Trump's policies, Like did you know that drug prices

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 14>are actually going down? The consumer price index for drug

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 14>has dropped precipitously because of Trump, our X and other

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:51.760
<v Speaker 14>things that we're doing. And so inflation is coming down,

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 14>but the price level went up. And so when people

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 14>are thinking about, well, how am I doing compared to

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 14>how I was doing five years ago, Well, you had

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.399
<v Speaker 14>you know, those four years Biden where prices skyrocketed and

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 14>your wages didn't keep up, and the typical American family

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 14>lost three four thousand dollars in spending power. Now they're

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 14>gaining that spending power back, but they do you know,

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 14>they don't care so much about the rate of change

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.240
<v Speaker 14>of prices in June as much as they do. What's

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 14>the level how much does it actually cost to buy

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 14>a pound of hamburger? And so that's why or you know,

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 14>the stake fajita in a burrito, and so that's really

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 14>why there's a disconnect here. But one of the things,

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 14>let's go back to how the media covers it, that's

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 14>really really interesting is that our policies were really passed

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:39.720
<v Speaker 14>to the big beautiful Bill. That's when we really started

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 14>to take effect our policies, which was passed about a

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 14>year ago, and a lot of the stuff, you know,

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 14>really kicked in over the winter, and our policies are

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 14>really working. And you could see it because inflation has

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 14>gone from almost four percent down to over the last

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.360
<v Speaker 14>month that we had data about zero. But what do

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 14>they do in the media when they cover inflation, they say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 14>compared to you know, twelve months ago, over the last

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.959
<v Speaker 14>twelve months, inflation is this, which is a non zero number.

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 14>It's a higher number, but it's a higher number because

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 14>we inherited all this inflation from Joe Biden. We've run

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 14>it down to almost zero. But if you look at

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 14>you know, twelve months ago, inflation was higher and so

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 14>if you average over twelve months, then it doesn't look

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 14>like we're making progress. But if you look at what

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 14>we're doing right now, we've made an enormous amount of progress.

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 14>And so they won't even cover the progress that we're

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 14>making because they want to run negative stories about President

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 14>Trump's economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and they always talk about gas prices, right, that's

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing. So hopefully we can get a deal

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and a run. Hopefully the price of energy drops, and

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're hoping for all those things to happen,

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't negate all the other good movements in

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 2>the economy. I want to talk about this TPS thing.

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I was seeing this circulate as well, Kevin. So we

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, Supreme Court backs President Trump's ability to strip

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 2>TPS from all these Haitians that have been here and others.

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 2>You lose some labor in that, right, So it's going

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to impact the numbers. Are we seeing that And is

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.360
<v Speaker 2>there kind of some misinformation being spread about the labor

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 2>market that's relative to TPS.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, well, the way I would think about it again

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 14>is that when you're thinking about how the job market's doing,

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 14>then the metric that's the strongest and most reliable is

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 14>what's happening to the unemployment rate, And movements in the

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 14>unemployment rate are really really perfectly correlated with whether you're

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:35.359
<v Speaker 14>having a recession or not. And it's measured really well

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 14>because if people lose their jobs, then they get unemployment

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 14>insurance and when they file for that that we can

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 14>actually see, oh, that guy lost their jobs. We have

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 14>very good data adit. Right now, initial claims for unemployment

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 14>insurance in the US are the lowest they've been since

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 14>World War Two. And if you think about how much

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 14>bigger the population is now compared to all those years before,

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 14>you could say that, like, the odds of someone getting

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 14>fired right now are the lowest they've ever ever been.

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.760
<v Speaker 14>And so the labor market is strong and we're getting

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 14>net positive job creation even though you know, we have

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 14>closed the border at our deporting people who aren't legal

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 14>citizens in the US, and so that's a sign of

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:19.840
<v Speaker 14>how strong the labor market is. But again, President Trump

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 14>has reduced the federal workforce by about three hundred thousand workers,

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:30.439
<v Speaker 14>and that's like permanent savings for the US taxpayers. If

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.800
<v Speaker 14>he hadn't done that, then the jobs numbers would be

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 14>even stronger than what we're seeing, but that's not the

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 14>way President tumpt rolls. He wants to do the right thing,

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:42.240
<v Speaker 14>and he wants to do the right thing for hardworking America.

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<v Speaker 2>The final thing I guast numbers artificially.

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<v Speaker 14>The last thing about this is the federal workers who

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 14>who have lost their jobs in the DC area. They've

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 14>all gotten private sector jobs and so there hasn't been

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:53.959
<v Speaker 14>a spike and unemployment around here.

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Hassett, you're the man. I would love to have

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<v Speaker 2>sent you. Without further we have the great Pierre Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the vice president of Community Engagement with Turning Point

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>and we have a brand new initiative that Pierre is

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 2>going to tell us all about called Communities. Pierre, welcome back,

0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 2>my friend. Why don't you tell us about this new

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<v Speaker 2>project we're working on.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, it's a pleasure to be back with you both.

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:19.840
<v Speaker 16>I appreciate you guys having me on. And you know,

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 16>today is a good day. We're launching Tpstate Communities, which

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 16>is an opportunity for everyday Americans to lead right where

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 16>they live. You know, we've built, you know, the most

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 16>massive impactful student program in history. Right, we have a

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:36.319
<v Speaker 16>lot of students who are graduating college and they still

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:38.719
<v Speaker 16>believe in at Turning Point mission. They still believe in

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 16>what Charlie started so many years ago, and they want.

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 8>To stay involved.

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 16>Communities answers that call through our Young Professionals program. You

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 16>guys know this to Post nine to ten, we had

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 16>a lot of people reach out to us saying how.

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 8>Can I get involved? And they were you know, they were.

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.840
<v Speaker 16>Adults, they weren't students, and we didn't necessarily have a

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 16>way to plug them in. Many of them were veterans

0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 16>and law enforcement officers who wanted to get in involved

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 16>and still serve their country, but in a different way.

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 16>Communities answers to that call through our Heroes program. Charlie

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 16>was a big believer in minority communities, so many of

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 16>us here at turning points still believe minority communities are

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 16>worth saving.

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:13.760
<v Speaker 8>We answer that call through RISE.

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:19.799
<v Speaker 16>And lastly, we have our Families program too, which again parents, moms, dads, grandparents,

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 16>you name it. They believe and like I believe, that

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 16>families are the backbone of this country. Communities answers that

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 16>call with our Family and Families Initiative. So no matter

0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 16>what stage of life you're in, there is something for

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:35.319
<v Speaker 16>you in TPSA Communities. And I'm glad to have the

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 16>opportunity to lead it.

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Blake had my back here because how

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 2>many emails do we get all the time? Oh, to

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:45.360
<v Speaker 2>people that aren't necessarily college students that want to get involved.

0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 2>They want to plug in somewhere and they don't know how,

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 2>or there wasn't a convenient place to put them, and

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 2>now there is. Yeah, you can really get.

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:55.800
<v Speaker 3>So many emails and they'll say, I'm a graduate or

0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 3>even I'm middle aged, but could I show up at

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:02.360
<v Speaker 3>the university chapters? I would say like, okay, I don't you.

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 3>A lot of those events are open, but they are

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.760
<v Speaker 3>aimed at universities. You don't know exactly what to say.

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:10.720
<v Speaker 3>So it is good because so many people. Charlie started

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:13.760
<v Speaker 3>as a guy trying to speak to the youth, to students,

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.759
<v Speaker 3>but his message expanded so much, and so it's a

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.839
<v Speaker 3>very good thing that we can expand the Turning Point

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:23.680
<v Speaker 3>universe to accommodate how far his message reached. So what

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering, what's the form that this takes. So let's

0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 3>say you're a young professional in maybe we'll pick a

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 3>random city, Los Angeles. Are you going to end up?

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Are these chapters that people join are they just coordinating

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 3>mechanisms for doing events. Is this focused on political engagement

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 3>or faith engagement? Just describe maybe what the typical experience

0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 3>for someone might be who wants to get involved in this.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:54.400
<v Speaker 16>It's a city based chapter initiative, so we can theoretically

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.720
<v Speaker 16>we're going to launch chapters in as many cities as possible.

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 16>We already have well over five hundred chapters launching today

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 16>as long today. It just shows the momentum we were

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 16>building leading up to launch day. So the plan is

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:06.759
<v Speaker 16>to have a chapter at every city. We want to

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 16>touch every corner of this country. We want people to

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 16>have an opportunity to plug in with like minded individuals

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:14.640
<v Speaker 16>and also reach other individuals who may not have heard

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 16>an alternative message.

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 14>Right.

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 8>I was one of those individuals who grew.

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 16>Up really hearing a left leaning message and told that

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 16>this country wasn't for me and you know, all the

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 16>victimhood nonsense, right, But you know, I went and I

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 16>started the first, very the very first grassroots chapter and

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 16>the movements that I had previously started and it's led

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 16>to communities today. So I'm hoping that individuals and their

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 16>local cities through voter registration efforts, through community cleanups, through

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 16>even if it's just coming together and saying, hey, we

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 16>just needed to like mind the community to connect with

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:46.920
<v Speaker 16>and with and talk to, you know, because maybe our

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 16>family doesn't share our political beliefs or whatever it may be.

0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 16>We want to be that place where people can come

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 16>together and connect. We've already seen some cities do things

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 16>different than other cities. We have some city chapters who

0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 16>are looking at mentorship opportunity for the youth because they've

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 16>noticed the youth in their community is going down a

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 16>terrible road. We have some communities chapters who are you know,

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 16>focused on school board stuff. We have some community chapters

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 16>who are looking at cleanups because they're like, man, every

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 16>time I walk outside, there's trash all over my neighborhood.

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:18.560
<v Speaker 8>Who wants to live like this? Right? So it really

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 8>depends on what's needed in your area.

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.240
<v Speaker 16>But the big thing is that we want to encourage

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.920
<v Speaker 16>people to come together, take care of our communities, take

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 16>care of each other, and love this country openly and

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 16>be proud about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I have so many thoughts, Pierre, A couple

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 2>of things I want to get to. So one of

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the action items of communities is going to be engaged

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 2>in is getting people registered to vote as well. Right so,

0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 2>right now at charliekirk dot com slash vote, you can

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.720
<v Speaker 2>check your voter registration status, which is it is just

0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 2>a big thing right vote dot online tool we're using.

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<v Speaker 2>So it takes literally thirty seconds. So if you've moved

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<v Speaker 2>recently or you're just not sure what your status is,

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<v Speaker 2>go to charliekirk dot com slash vote. You can also

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<v Speaker 2>do that through the communities page. Guys make that really easy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's that's the first thing I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure because that's something we're really going to

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<v Speaker 2>be focused on. You're gonna hear me bring this up

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<v Speaker 2>time and time again if you listen to the show,

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<v Speaker 2>charliekirk dot com slash vote, check your status right now. Okay. First, Secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>we spent a lot of time in our one of

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<v Speaker 2>the show talking about the sectarian nature of the changing

0:59:21.800 --> 0:59:26.040
<v Speaker 2>American body politic. And you see these the tribalist ideas.

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 2>You see Hassan Piker raging against white people and you know,

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 2>raging against black people. Anything that gets in the way

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<v Speaker 2>of DSA and the rise of the communist left. This

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<v Speaker 2>is an opportunity that I believe is turning that back

0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:47.160
<v Speaker 2>on itself. It's pushing back against this division division, and

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<v Speaker 2>and this brings people together from different age groups, different backgrounds,

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<v Speaker 2>different walks of life, and says we are all American,

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<v Speaker 2>we we bleed the same color red, and we all

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<v Speaker 2>can love this country. And I think that's so powerful

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<v Speaker 2>because that is is what has made America the shining

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<v Speaker 2>city on a hill for so long. We are different,

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<v Speaker 2>we do not give into these clash divisions and these

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<v Speaker 2>racial divisions. We come together as Americans. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you're leading here. And I just love it because,

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<v Speaker 2>as we said before, there's so many people that have

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a part of this movement that weren't

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<v Speaker 2>a student and this is their opportunity.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I mean you hit it on the head, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 16>We want to bring people together. You know, we're not

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<v Speaker 16>shy about our beliefs, right.

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<v Speaker 8>We love the Lord.

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<v Speaker 16>We certainly are not afraid to be patriotic. Right, So

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<v Speaker 16>we're going to share the things that we believe in.

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<v Speaker 16>But at the same time, we do believe there's more

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<v Speaker 16>that unites us than the divide than divides us. The

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<v Speaker 16>left obviously profit salt division and they spend a lot

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<v Speaker 16>of money on pushing division, but we're doing the opposite.

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<v Speaker 8>We want to unify this country.

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<v Speaker 16>We believe that there are a lot of people out

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<v Speaker 16>there who believe that this country is worth fighting for,

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<v Speaker 16>that believes that this country is still that shining city

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<v Speaker 16>on the hill. And it does start in our communities.

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<v Speaker 16>Love grassroots work, you guys know that about me. I

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<v Speaker 16>believe that each one reaches the one right, and you

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<v Speaker 16>reach ten, and you reach twenty, reach one hundred. Doing

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<v Speaker 16>that hard, gritty grassroots work, to me is what makes

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<v Speaker 16>the biggest difference changing someone's lives. The stories you hear,

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<v Speaker 16>the people you bring together, whether it's someone who is black,

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<v Speaker 16>whether it's someone who's white, someone who is Jewish, someone

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<v Speaker 16>is a matter where the person, what the person's background is.

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<v Speaker 16>I've seen pictures, I've seen videos, I've seen the work

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<v Speaker 16>that we're doing already of just people from so many

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<v Speaker 16>different backgrounds coming together.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's beautiful, Andrew, It's it's it's great. It's great

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<v Speaker 8>to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I love what you said. Reach What did

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<v Speaker 2>you say, Reach one.

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<v Speaker 16>Reach one, reach ten, reach twenty, each person, each each

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<v Speaker 16>one reaches one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, each one reaches one. This is the heartbeat of

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<v Speaker 2>what Turning Point does. We believe in a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>things on the on the chapter level, it's chapters change

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<v Speaker 2>the world, right, each chapter change the world, which is

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<v Speaker 2>something you could relate to with communities as well. Already

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred that's incredible, that's incredible. People don't understand how started.

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<v Speaker 2>So chapter chapters change the world, Doors win wars. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we believe in knocking on doors at Turning Point action communities.

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<v Speaker 2>Each one reaches one. And I love that the grassroots

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<v Speaker 2>heartbeat of this organization marches on this. So Charlie taught us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Charlie built, and you are continuing that legacy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's so incredibly important. But I love

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<v Speaker 2>that you're bringing in the minority thing, You're bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>different ages, you're bringing in different walks of life, and

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<v Speaker 2>each city. I mean, how big could this grow? Pierre?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I think this can be the biggest department and

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<v Speaker 16>Turning Point, you know, simply because they're I mean, you

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<v Speaker 16>think about it. There is really nowhere we can't go.

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<v Speaker 16>The communities are all over the country, every state, so

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<v Speaker 16>many different cities, So you know, I think the potential

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<v Speaker 16>here is unlimited and that's what's beautiful about it. But

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<v Speaker 16>where we want to do it right. You know, we

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<v Speaker 16>don't want to just have the numbers just to have it.

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<v Speaker 16>We're putting up big numbers on the scoreboard, but it's

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<v Speaker 16>impactful too at the same time, the things that they're

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<v Speaker 16>coming out of these chapters, the stories, the people we

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<v Speaker 16>are reaching, a spinning in credible to see already.

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<v Speaker 8>And again this is officially launched day today, so.

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<v Speaker 16>I can't imagine the impact of the way we're going

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<v Speaker 16>to take off posts today, but it can go all

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<v Speaker 16>over the country. Andrew, to answer your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere, okay, give people their action items. Where do they go,

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<v Speaker 2>where do they sign up? How do they get involved

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<v Speaker 2>in communities?

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<v Speaker 16>So TPUSA dot com slash communities, and what I would

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<v Speaker 16>encourage you to do is to read about each community

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<v Speaker 16>and see what stage of life you're in where you fit.

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<v Speaker 16>Some people join multiple different groups. You can join more

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<v Speaker 16>than one, but get plugged in more than anything.

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<v Speaker 12>Lead.

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<v Speaker 16>There's an opportunity on TPSA dot com slash communities where

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<v Speaker 16>you just sign up as a leader in your community.

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<v Speaker 16>If there is not a chapter there, you have the

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<v Speaker 16>opportunity to start one. If there is a chapter there.

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<v Speaker 16>You have a chance to get plugged in, but I

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<v Speaker 16>encourage you to not sit on the sidelines if you're

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<v Speaker 16>watching this, and to get involved and to share with

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<v Speaker 16>people within your network.

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<v Speaker 8>Like we've been discussing today. It's something for every single person.

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<v Speaker 16>And one of the other things I wanted to say

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<v Speaker 16>really quick is that we have the Clean Up America

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<v Speaker 16>Tour that is coming up starting August twenty ninth and

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<v Speaker 16>CLEARWAO of floridaurging and hit five different cities including Phoenix, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 8>Please join us.

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<v Speaker 16>You'll also see that on tepestate dot com slash communities.

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<v Speaker 16>Sign up to attend to stop for multiple stops. We

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<v Speaker 16>would love to have you come out there, check it out,

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<v Speaker 16>register to vote with us.

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<v Speaker 8>If you have it, join our to join communities.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the name of the tour, Pierre clean.

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<v Speaker 16>Up America Tour, and we're gonna have five cities country

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<v Speaker 16>starting with a clear order.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen. Amen, folks. If you're just getting to know Pierre,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie loved Pierre so much and had all the faith

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<v Speaker 2>in the world in him, and he's the right guy

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<v Speaker 2>to lead this this massive new undertaking because we have

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<v Speaker 2>been inundated by people that want to get involved and

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<v Speaker 2>want to plug in. And one last thought I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>add in the last ten seconds here is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, you know, their local GOP is dysfunctional. Their

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<v Speaker 2>local you know, and sometimes you need an outside group

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<v Speaker 2>to bring new, fresh, young energy into that and revitalize

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<v Speaker 2>all those different patriotic groups in a community. So this

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<v Speaker 2>I think could be really transformative on so many levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Pierre Wilson, God bless you, sir us you guys. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a new article from highly respected Scott Greer.

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<v Speaker 2>He joined the show and he is opining on the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty dollars burrito debate. And I'm sorry to bring this up,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really hope that the audience understands how deep

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<v Speaker 2>this debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Ended up going and talk about the burrito.

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<v Speaker 2>The burrito and it was just one little throwaway tweet

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<v Speaker 2>for me yours truly. I'm so sorry I did it

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<v Speaker 2>because everybody's using it as a as a wedge issue

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<v Speaker 2>the MAGA civil war. But I think Scott Greer actually

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<v Speaker 2>has provided a valuable contribution to this debate. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is substack highly respected. We've had him on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We usually pass his articles around because we find them interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, what Americans pay twenty bucks for a burrito

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<v Speaker 2>to have less immigration? Nationalist economics may face the obstacles

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<v Speaker 2>of America wanting cheap and infinite consumption. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's true, Blake. He's making the point that we have

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<v Speaker 2>become a custom in this society to not be willing

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<v Speaker 2>to sacrifice anything to get sort of this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>delayed gratification to get the better, the more lasting good

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<v Speaker 2>for our country. Because we expect infinite consumption and low prices.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we willing to do what's necessary? Are we willing

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<v Speaker 2>to pay twenty twenty five bucks for burrito if it

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<v Speaker 2>means mass deportations.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exactly what we were talking about in that last

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<v Speaker 3>segment where there is about the delay effect from we

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<v Speaker 3>closed off the border, and wages will get better, but

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<v Speaker 3>there will probably be short term inflation of costs because

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<v Speaker 3>companies are addicted to this. And Greer's article points this

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<v Speaker 3>out that, Okay, one factor that will make your burrito

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<v Speaker 3>more expensive is if we cut off the supply of

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<v Speaker 3>low wage labor, there's less people to work specifically in

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<v Speaker 3>those businesses, or wages are going up in construction or

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<v Speaker 3>other industries that have a lot of illegals, which means

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<v Speaker 3>more people are going to them, which is putting wage

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<v Speaker 3>pressure on your fast food outlets. And we, as nationalists,

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<v Speaker 3>we understand this is desirable. We want a country where

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<v Speaker 3>people know English. We want a country where not getting replaced.

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<v Speaker 3>We want a country that's safer. We want a country

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<v Speaker 3>where there's fewer quality leering centers. But yes, a side

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<v Speaker 3>effect of this will probably be that some goods are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be more expensive because we aren't just an

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<v Speaker 3>economic zone whose only guiding principle is keep wages as

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<v Speaker 3>far down as possible. And I think it's a valuable

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<v Speaker 3>contribution to bring this up because we have that debate

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<v Speaker 3>over burrito prices and you have some people going, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>kids these days are just entitled. And we don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to just say, oh no, you have the right to

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you can afford things and buy things in

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<v Speaker 3>our country. But we do have to confront can't. We

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<v Speaker 3>have to push back and Charlie is so good at this.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to push back on this kind of unlimited

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<v Speaker 3>entitlement that people can feel of. I want maximum consumption,

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<v Speaker 3>I want the lowest possible prices. I want no trade

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<v Speaker 3>offs at all in return for making America's long term

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<v Speaker 3>future better. I think it's a real problem that we face,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Scott is right to point it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I love this section. I'm going to read it

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<v Speaker 2>for you here, so he says. He says, the new

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<v Speaker 2>American dream is predicated on the twin demands of infinite

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<v Speaker 2>benefits and infinite low cost consumption. Can a people so

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<v Speaker 2>accustomed to such rights in parentheses be expected to have

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<v Speaker 2>them clipped to accomplish a greater good? The answer to

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<v Speaker 2>that question will determine the fate of the country. In

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<v Speaker 2>order to make the country greater again, people will have

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<v Speaker 2>to adjust their expectations and experience short term inconveniences. It's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to demand radical political changes, but until the people

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<v Speaker 2>are willing to make small sacrifices, we will never make

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<v Speaker 2>those changes. This is exactly right, by the way, as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as we start deporting people, what do you get?

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<v Speaker 2>You got the GOP chamber of convers popping their heads

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<v Speaker 2>up saying, here's an amnesty for anybody who has been

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<v Speaker 2>in the country since you know, twenty twenty. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what they instantly do. Oh, we need more cheap labor.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Senator Curtis out of Utah saying states should

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<v Speaker 2>be able to customize their amnesty plan. Okay, that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's necessary to prioritize what's most important rather than trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do everything the new right theories dictate. The American

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<v Speaker 2>people still want cheap goods, regardless of whatever rhetoric tells

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<v Speaker 2>them to feel differently, He's right, there is a tension here.

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<v Speaker 2>We say we want all these things, but as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as we do, there's a little bit of pain and

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<v Speaker 2>we bail on that. So I think it's a fair

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<v Speaker 2>criticism because I do think we need to be a

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<v Speaker 2>people that can experience short term sacrifice and short term inconvenience.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're going to get to the long term benefit,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to be able to have that delayed gratification. Blake.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Charlie was a big believer in delayed gratification

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to marriage, when it comes to the economy,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to our government and our politics. Final

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<v Speaker 2>minute to you, Blake, what's the takeaway? Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>we can do this?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a moral question, really, Like, we only have such

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<v Speaker 3>a nice country because your parents, grant parents, great grandparents,

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<v Speaker 3>going all the way back to the settlers on the Mayflower.

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<v Speaker 3>We only have a nice country because those people accepted

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<v Speaker 3>sacrifices to achieve things. And it's absolutely an addiction in

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<v Speaker 3>America to not want to accept any sacrifice, and we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen how this has been catastrophic in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 3>We fought the Iraq War on a credit card because

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<v Speaker 3>George W. Bush didn't want Americans to feel like they

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<v Speaker 3>were being taxed at all to fight the war on terrorism.

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<v Speaker 3>He literally said, go out and spend. That's how you

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<v Speaker 3>can help America during the war on terrorism. We've really

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<v Speaker 3>built up all of this debt because we're pushing off

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<v Speaker 3>all questions, all trade offs into the future and handling

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be a challenge. And we've gotten

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<v Speaker 3>so used to not demanding any sacrifices of anyone that

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like a moral attack to suggest it, because

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<v Speaker 3>they'll just say, oh, well, Boomers or whoever, they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to sacrifice. It's going to be tough, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be painful, and we do have to front this.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember we might have to sacrifice to save this country.

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