WEBVTT - Remembering "Dilbert" Creator Scott Adams 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.360 My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:09.960 American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.360 of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.520 to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.919 is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.200 if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.400 up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.600 stop sending your kids to college. 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The Charlie Kirk Show 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.400 is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.440 experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.000 my family, friends and viewers. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.680 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.880 January thirteenth, twenty twenty six. We are here in studio. 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.920 I'm Andrew Covid, executive producer of this show, joined by 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.160 Blake Nef, the one and only Blake Neff, And today 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.360 we mourn the loss of another great American and that 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.880 is Scott Adams. I just saw that. Jd Vance actually 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.120 just tweeted something moments before we came on the air. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.520 Scott Adams was a true American original and a great 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.039 ally to the President of the United States and the 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.160 entire administration. My prayers go to Scott and all of 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.400 you who loved him. We lost one of the good ones, 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:44.720 but we'll never forget him. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.640 And yeah, it's a lot of a lot of newspaper 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.680 comic artists are not going to get a tribute like that. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:51.480 I don't think. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.720 Do you remember when Charles Schultz died? I do, but 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:57.640 just vaguely. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.800 Yeah, that was the Peanut Sky. Yes, he was a 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:01.560 great American icon, but that's the only one I can 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:02.080 really think of. 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.840 That's God. Yeah, I mean so he Scott Adams of 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:09.560 course created Dilbert in nineteen eighty nine, and he it 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.320 was incredible because you know, obviously we were too young 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.840 to kind of understand, you know, I was too young. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.080 Blake wasn't even born yet, you know, it was too 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.480 young to understand this rise of corporate culture and workplace 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.200 cubicle culture. And he gave voice through this comic to 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.040 the quiet frustrations of working men and women that were 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.400 working their way up filtrations. But also it was it 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.680 was deeply funny. It was deeply funny. It was the 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.200 hapless engineer protagonist as it was described, and a bunch 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:44.440 of dysfunctional colleagues, and you know, it was a cultural phenomenon. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.560 It became a cultural phenomenon that people would talk about 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.079 at the workplace or at the water cooler, or when 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.560 they're getting coffee at work, you know. And that's why 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.079 he ultimately created Coffee with Scott Adams. It was originally 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.520 called Real Coffee with Scott Adams, and it became a 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.520 phenomenon that many people too into daily and to just 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.920 get a dose of his you know, his contrarian thinking. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:10.040 He had a unique blend of insight, humor, wit, and 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.639 an optimism. He was an optimist, he genuinely was. And 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.679 he was one of the first people to sort of 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:20.200 take President Trump seriously, one of the first mainstream people 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.360 to take President Trump seriously. And he paid politically for that, 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.040 and he paid in his career for that as well. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.440 A lot of papers around the country ended up removing 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:33.240 Scott Adams the Over cartoon from their papers. Yeah, and 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.240 they you know, and here's what they'll do, by the way, 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.280 this is what they're gonna do is the same thing 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.760 that they did with Charlie. Is they're going to cherry 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.840 pick a few things that Scott maybe said or take 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.960 it out of context. They're gonna like remove all the 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.200 other context and say that Scott Adams was this bad 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.840 person or whatever. No, Scott Adams was just great. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.520 What he was was he was a man in the arena, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.520 just like Charlie, where oh, if you go out there 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.800 and say things, Oh, there's a risk someone might not 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.480 like what you say, you might be in articulate at 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.840 some point. It's just disgusting. I want us to throw up. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.240 This is one of my favorites. Let's put up two 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:04.920 forty nine. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.160 Uh, this is just you didn't have comics like this before. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.960 They're not comics read it first like this. So it's 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.360 the point. He heard boss talking to Dilbert. My boss 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:18.400 says we need some Unich programmers. I think he means Unix, 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:22.760 not Unux. I already and I already know Unix. If 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.960 the company or drops by, tell her, I said, never 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.200 mine at the company nurses. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:27.640 I don't think. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.359 I don't think you would have seen you would not 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.480 have seen a comic strip like I keep saying, Yeah, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.040 a comic strip like that in Uh. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.480 It was. It was cathartic, it was. It was syndicated worldwide, 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.360 by the way, that's what's amazing about it syndicated worldwide. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.080 So it was a phenomenon of the workplace that emerged 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.760 in the eighties and nineties, probably in the seventies. And 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.120 what people also probably don't know about Scott has he 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.840 authored a bunch of best selling books on persuasion, persuasion systems, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:58.880 thinking personal success. It's just really great act. Why we 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.880 talked to Scott on the phone. I never met him 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.960 in person. I talked to him on the phone a 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.279 couple of times. I was on the phone with Scott 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.960 and Charlie, believe it or not. We were talking about 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.920 maybe getting him on the show, how it could work together. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.240 Nothing ended up becoming of those conversations, but you know, 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:20.320 Scott did honor Charlie. When Charlie was killed, we did that, 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:21.599 he did. We have that clip. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.880 Let's make sure we have the right one here, because 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.680 there were a few. Yeah, So this was he was 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.120 on Tucker's program shortly after and he was commenting on it. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.000 So this is I can't imagine Adams ever thought he 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.840 would outlift Charlie, but this is what he had to say. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.000 Clip two thirty nine. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:43.520 When Charlie Kirk died, you could almost feel this massive 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.880 energy being released. You know, he sort of controlled it, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.760 but when it was released, you know, his mortal coil 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:56.280 was no more. I feel like that energy just went 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:02.480 into people and suddenly tens of millions of people simultaneously 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.080 said what can I do? What can I do right now? 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.200 And that's different. People don't say I'm going to stop everything, 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.960 tell me what to do. I'm going to go to church. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.080 A lot of people did. I'm going to say stuff 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.400 on social media. I'm going to hunt down the people 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.840 who said bad things and cancel them. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.520 But I'm going to do something. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.840 You know, we're we're going to figure out how to 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:31.599 start another chapter of you know, TPUSA, and all of 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.799 that's happening, and it doesn't seem to be slowing down, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.400 you know, the vigils, et cetera. If anything, the energy, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.800 it might be growing. And I've never seen anything like 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.120 it in my life. I've never seen the Republicans turn 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.520 into their own machine. And now it is. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.640 And what's most important I think as well, is that 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.240 Scott was wrestling with his own mortality towards the end. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.680 You know. C. S. Lewis would talk about how a 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.800 soldier in a fox actually, you know, because he was 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.800 reflecting on World War One. He was a veteran of 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.600 World War One and he was he was doing a 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.960 lot of his writings and his thinking in World War Two, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.920 and he said that it can be a blessing to 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.960 be faced with your own mortality and to understand that you, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.920 as a soldier, you might die, and to confront the 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.920 almighty and to make peace. And Scott was sort of 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.560 that soldier on a field in a cultural sense, in 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.440 a media sense, and he was staring down the sickness. 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:31.120 He had metastatic cross state casts with spread to his bones. Yeah, 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:32.800 and so he was dealing with the fact that he 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.920 knew he was probably gonna die. He said it, I'm 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.040 going We're all going to die, yes, but imminently right 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.560 and sou and that could be a real blessing. And 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.080 so Scott was wrestling with his own mortality and was 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.880 never a believer, was never a Christian. He had great 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.880 respect for Christians, but he was not himself. And so 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.600 we have two clips where he himself was describing this 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:53.720 two thirty seven. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.880 Any of my Christian friends and Christian followers saved me. Scott, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.880 you still have time, you should convert to Christianity. And 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:08.240 I usually just let that sit because that's not an 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:12.240 argument I want to have. I've not been a believer, 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.920 and but I also have a respect for any Christian 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.040 who goes out of their way to try to convert me, 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.840 because how would I believe you believe your own religion 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.760 if you're not trying to convert me. So I have 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:32.440 great respect for people who care enough that they want 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.520 me to convert and then go out of the way 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:36.840 to try to convince me. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.839 So you're here for the. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.600 First time today that it is my plan to convert. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:45.840 That's a very Scott. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.320 It's such an I'm a I'm a tech autist kind 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.120 of exactly. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.640 It's it's like an engineer, you know, doing it in 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.040 only the way he can. And and and I my 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.760 word to everybody that's like you know that might think 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.160 that you know this isn't that's not an authentic way 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.400 to convert. I would just say everybody's different. God makes 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.680 us in mysterious ways. 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I just was sent this and this 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.600 is how People Magazine is choosing to remember Scott Adams. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:55.520 Scott Adams disgraced Dilbert creator dies at sixty eight. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.760 That's disgusting there, it is that grace. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.760 But I'm telling you this is the exact same playbook. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.640 Take can you take the enemies of the people the 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.640 banner off the bottom there for a seconds so people 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.680 can see it. Yeah, so Scott, Yeah, Scott Adams disgrace. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.800 Dilbert creator dies at sixty eight. Dilbert was pulled from 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.400 wide circulation after Adam's racist rant in twenty twenty three. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.880 It's such a garbage thing to do to somebody, And 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:24.920 you know, this is what they did with Charlie. It's 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:29.000 the same exact playbook where you know, they take something 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.320 that Charlie said out of context about black pilots or 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.920 Martin Luther King and they strip it of all of 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.640 the build up, all of the context. It's just hateful garbage. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.280 And then and then they use it to smear somebody, 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.880 even in death. You know, somebody somebody retweeted my tweet 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.200 on it on X and basically quote tweeted it and said, 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.560 you know, you can tell a lot about the way 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.800 some you know, a group of people by who they 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.360 lionized and who who their heroes are. And I'm like, 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.960 you can tell a lot about somebody that even in death, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.800 they refuse to be gracious and kind or at least neutral, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.280 or just keep your mouth shut. So People Magazine, shame 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.720 on you, absolute disgrace. We got someone who sent in 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.800 their favorite Dilbert. They had a they have a Dilbert 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.000 strip hanging in their cubicle. Yeah, it's Dilbert talking to 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.719 the point to hear boss. May I talk to you 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:19.960 after the mandatory meeting? Whoa, whoa. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.960 I didn't give you approval to attend that meeting. The 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:27.720 meeting is mandatory. Approval is mandatory too, Okay, whatever, May 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.920 I go to the mandatory meeting. All requests must be 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:36.360 in writing. It's mandatory. It's mandatory. If people start bending 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.040 the rules before long, murder will be legal. And then 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:40.880 it shows him talking to his coworker afterwards. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.120 That was the best mandatory meeting I've ever been to. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:44.800 They hands it out free cash. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:50.000 Shut up, it's funny. He's good. I was never like 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.880 really that into cartoons, but I was really into like it. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.560 Was one of it was we read like three of 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:55.680 them and that was one of them. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.000 Yeah, well there's not a lot. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.080 A lot of them are really bad. I do they 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.760 still exist? I guess do newspapers still exist? 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:09.720 They do? They do exist? Blake, It's yeah, there are newspapers. Listen. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.680 I I want to I just want to remember that, uh, 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.320 that Scott took a great personal toll for this, and 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.000 and you know, I I the way the verse ends 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.360 with the parable of the workers in the vineyard is 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.880 that you know the first will be last and the 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.480 last will be first. And so Scott Scott came to 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.840 his face faith almost at the end, almost as like 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.880 Pascal's wager. And maybe Blake, if you want to describe 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.800 that for the audiences, Oh yeah, so he does. 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.040 Then there's another clip where he's more forth right about 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.080 it even that. So Blake's Pascal was a French mathematician 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.920 who laid out an argument that basically, you should embrace theism, 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.760 you should embrace Christianity because the rewards of eternal life 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.400 are great and the if you're wrong, you lose just 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.040 you're just worm food, so you lose nothing. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:57.240 Now. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.880 The funny thing is Pascal, a very logical man himself, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.720 did not convert for that reason. He had a religious 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.080 experience one night, like just had a divine vision and 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.760 he was a super Christian after that. But it's an 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.280 argument that has a lot of it's debated a lot, 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.200 certainly among you know, computer programmer types. Well, this is 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.320 what exactly what Scott Adams is. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.280 He's sort of an engineering brain, a contrarian thinker, and 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.240 so he did sort of wrestle with the risk reward analysis. 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.400 And some people might say that's not authentic. I think 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.840 it was the most authentic way Scott could approach faith 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.720 that he struggled to embrace his whole life. And so 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.880 I would just say welcome, welcome to the fold. You know, 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.000 we're honored to have you, Scott, and you know, may 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.360 you rest in peace, and we expect to see you someday. 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.240 And I hope you say hi to Charlie for us 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.000 up there. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:43.320 He was. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.640 He was the man in the arena. That's all those 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.360 attacks on him. You think of that Theodore Roosevelt quote. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:49.800 I know Charlie was a fan of it. It's not 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.440 the critic who counts. It's the man who's in the arena, 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.080 the man who is marred by dust and sweat and blood, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.360 who strives valiantly, that's the man who matters. And that's 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.760 what he was doing Hm, No, he could be attacked 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.200 by people because he bothered to say something that was 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.920 relevant and controversial period. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.160 Yep, exactly. And you know, I think it was Matt 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.120 Walsh who said, you know, especially in the aftermath of 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.600 Charlie's death, and he was reflecting on all the attacks 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:19.480 against Charlie from the left or whatever, and he basically 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.240 was just like, may we all experience may our enemies 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.560 rejoice when we die, because that means we were truly effective. 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.000 And the fact that they just like the pettiness of it, 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.480 I think just makes them disgrace to Dilbert's creator. I 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.360 think it makes them look disgraceful. The only party disgraced 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.160 in this instance is people, all right, that is it? 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.080 The fact that you could just say, Dilbert creator Scott 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:42.960 Adams dies at sixty eight. Why couldn't you just go 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:43.240 with that? 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.600 I guess not in famous cartoonist, famous cultural commentator. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.200 Well yeah, I mean, like for real, and obviously he 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.600 means a lot to a lot of people were mourning 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.120 him the whole you know of exes mourning him. The 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.320 Vice president is sending out tweet there's gonna I feel. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.440 I feel we're actually under selling this just because it's 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.800 been a long time. And what really made him super 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.080 notable with our faction is in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.200 he was one of the first guys to really take 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.600 Trump seriously as a as a political candidate who would 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.959 lay out an argument, Okay, what Trump is doing when 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.640 he's on stage where it's unpredictable and silly and he's 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.520 he's saying stuff that seems outlandish, He's actually doing something 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.040 powerfully persuasive to people, and he could win the election 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.440 doing this. And he was just saying this back when 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.120 everyone else on television. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.360 Was saying, Oh, he's just a dumb clone. It's never 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:37.280 going to go anywhere. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.320 He was saying, no, you guys are wrong about this, 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.680 and he put his well, he put his reputation where 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.760 his mouth was, and he was proved right. Trump actually 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:44.480 did win that election. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.119 M M yeah, well said, I think you're right. And 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.320 there is kind of this cast of like og Maga originals, 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.359 like the you know, Mike Cernovich's, the Jack Besovics, the 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:57.000 Charlie Kirks, the Scott Adams, the people that saw early on. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.800 I don't even know that he was a Trump supporter. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.159 He was just actually willing to say this guy is 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.879 effective at what he does and it's going to be 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.120 persuasive to people. It was that master persuader line he used. 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.800 I remember that one. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:13.440 Yeah, well, no, absolutely, And you know his wife read 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:17.240 a statement this morning and they did a coffee with 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.320 Scott Adams. You know, after his passing. We had heard 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.879 that he went to hospice, but his wife confirmed that, 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.280 you know, he was of sound mind and that you 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:30.080 know that he did accept Jesus Christ. And so, you know, 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.439 God blessed Scott, and thank you for your contribution. We 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.320 honor you on this show because we honor brave men 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.520 and women that stand up for what's right. That are 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.000 the men in the arena that do take the slings 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:43.919 and arrows for the rest of us. Charlie was one 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.400 of these men. Scott was one of these men. And 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:52.960 you know it, it's really it's really sad to lose 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.720 two great Americans in such quick order. It really is. 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:57.320 And that was the first thought I had when I 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.240 saw the news this morning, that it breaks my heart 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.879 that we've lost another one. It really does. Because listen, 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.720 people are gonna come and they're gonna fill the ranks. 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.800 You know, I'm loving the you know some of these 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.240 people like Nick Shirley that are coming and doing great things, 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.639 and we want more. We need more in this space. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.440 We need more sane actors, more rational actors, more persuasive actors, 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.920 and good faith actors. And Scott was one of those 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:23.560 people that. 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.000 And talented ones soon because he wasn't just a political guy. 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.120 He was a hugely he was he had something funny 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.040 and interesting to say, and millions of people are going 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:34.960 to remember him for that. Yeah, and that's a good 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.040 thing to aspire to as well. 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:36.919 Yeah. Absolutely. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.480 This is Lane Schunberger, chief investment Officer and founding partner 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.080 of wy REFI. It has been an honor and a 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.000 privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.119 endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us, and 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.800