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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro

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Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future

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Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and

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Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you

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Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But

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Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end

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Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to

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Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. You should get married

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Speaker 1: as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

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Speaker 1: Go start at turning point, you would say, college chapter.

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Speaker 1: Go start at turning point, you say high school chapter.

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Speaker 1: Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign

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Speaker 1: up and become an activist. I gave my life to

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Speaker 1: the Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever

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Speaker 1: made in my life, and I encourage you to do

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Speaker 1: the same. Here I am.

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Speaker 2: Lord, Use me.

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Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 3: January thirteenth, twenty twenty six. We are here in studio.

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Speaker 3: I'm Andrew Covid, executive producer of this show, joined by

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Speaker 3: Blake Nef, the one and only Blake Neff, And today

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Speaker 3: we mourn the loss of another great American and that

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Speaker 3: is Scott Adams. I just saw that. Jd Vance actually

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Speaker 3: Scott Adams was a true American original and a great

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Speaker 3: ally to the President of the United States and the

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Speaker 3: you who loved him. We lost one of the good ones,

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Speaker 3: but we'll never forget him.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it's a lot of a lot of newspaper

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Speaker 4: comic artists are not going to get a tribute like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember when Charles Schultz died? I do, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the Peanut Sky. Yes, he was a

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Speaker 3: That's God. Yeah, I mean so he Scott Adams of

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Speaker 3: course created Dilbert in nineteen eighty nine, and he it

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Speaker 3: was incredible because you know, obviously we were too young

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Speaker 3: Blake wasn't even born yet, you know, it was too

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Speaker 3: young to understand this rise of corporate culture and workplace

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Speaker 3: cubicle culture. And he gave voice through this comic to

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Speaker 3: the quiet frustrations of working men and women that were

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Speaker 3: hapless engineer protagonist as it was described, and a bunch

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Speaker 3: of dysfunctional colleagues, and you know, it was a cultural phenomenon.

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Speaker 3: It became a cultural phenomenon that people would talk about

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Speaker 3: he ultimately created Coffee with Scott Adams. It was originally

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Speaker 3: He had a unique blend of insight, humor, wit, and

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Speaker 3: A lot of papers around the country ended up removing

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Speaker 3: person or whatever. No, Scott Adams was just great.

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Speaker 4: What he was was he was a man in the arena,

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Speaker 3: Uh, this is just you didn't have comics like this before.

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Speaker 5: When Charlie Kirk died, you could almost feel this massive

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Speaker 5: You know, we're we're going to figure out how to

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Speaker 3: And what's most important I think as well, is that

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Speaker 3: He had metastatic cross state casts with spread to his bones. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Any of my Christian friends and Christian followers saved me. Scott,

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Speaker 6: and but I also have a respect for any Christian

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Speaker 6: because how would I believe you believe your own religion

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Speaker 6: First time today that it is my plan to convert.

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Speaker 3: That's a very Scott.

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Speaker 3: But he answered to them, I am not being unfair

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Speaker 4: He was saying, no, you guys are wrong about this,

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Speaker 4: I don't even know that he was a Trump supporter.

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Speaker 3: He has been fantastic on specifically tariffs. But there's other

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Speaker 3: welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's great to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. So, you know, Trump has this twenty five

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Speaker 3: percent tariff announcement for anybody doing business with Iran. Simultaneously,

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Speaker 3: there is a Scotus ruling that we're eagerly awaiting, probably tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: whether or not he's even lawfully legally able to do this.

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Speaker 3: Give us the update, please, So.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're waiting and it could come tomorrow. The Supreme

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Speaker 8: Court never tells us in advance what decisions are going

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Speaker 8: one pretty quickly. A lot of people thought it was

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Speaker 8: the things that Trump's recent tariff announcement don'ty is shows

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Speaker 8: how important tariffs can be to foreign polo and this

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Speaker 8: is one of the arguments for why the president should

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Speaker 8: really important to our attempt to try to contain Iran

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Speaker 8: and to use the US's consumer market, which everybody in

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Speaker 8: the world.

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Speaker 2: Wants access to.

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Speaker 8: To discipline the rest of the world. If you're going

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Speaker 8: to do business with Iran, you're going to have to

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Speaker 8: pay a lot.

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Speaker 2: Higher tariff to sell your stuff into the US.

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Speaker 8: I think that's it actually really does strengthen his position

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it strikes me John is this kind of like

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Speaker 3: Trump's this this maverick. He's creative with the way he

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Speaker 3: approaches foreign policy, and he implements these new techniques. They're

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Speaker 3: not new, but certainly in modern American especially presidential history,

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Speaker 3: he's using them in ways others haven't really done before.

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Speaker 3: And he's being more public about it. He's being more

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Speaker 3: for it. They're coming after him saying, well, now we

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Speaker 3: it in a way that we hadn't thought about before,

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Speaker 3: and so we just want to punp punish Trump. But

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Speaker 3: to your point, what happens if the Supreme Court rules

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Speaker 3: against the Trump administration in this particular case. I've seen

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Speaker 3: some reports that we have to pay back upwards of

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Speaker 3: three hundred billion dollars in tariff revenue. Is this even feasible?

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Speaker 3: Is as possible? Is this going to happen?

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Speaker 8: I don't think the Supreme Court is likely to order

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Speaker 8: the US government to pay back hundreds of billions in tariffs,

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Speaker 8: which is one of the reasons. Look, I listened to

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Speaker 8: were super skeptical about whether or not Trump really does

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Speaker 8: have the statutory authority because, as you point out, there's

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Speaker 8: not a lot of precedent for this. The law that

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Speaker 8: they're using, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act is people

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Speaker 8: call it AEPA, has never been.

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Speaker 2: Used to impose tariffs.

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Speaker 8: Ironically, everybody agrees that the president could sanction a country.

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Speaker 8: You could even embargo countries. You can say you can't

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Speaker 8: say you can completely shut off a country from access

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Speaker 8: percent tariff for them to be able to sell into

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Speaker 8: the US market. That seems wrong to me. But the

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Speaker 8: Supreme Court was skeptical that Trump has this much authority.

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Speaker 8: I don't think they rule that he has that it

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Speaker 8: all has to be paid back from the US Treasury.

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Speaker 8: I think what they're most likely to do is come

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Speaker 8: to some sort of compromise where they say, yes, the

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Speaker 8: President can impose some tariffs, and but there's a you know,

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Speaker 8: they might make up a time limit. It's called the

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Speaker 8: Emergency Powers Act. So maybe they say an emergency can't

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Speaker 8: last forever, so you have a year. So that would

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Speaker 8: mean we could keep all the tariffs we have, and

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Speaker 8: it gives the Trump administration some time to There's a

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Speaker 8: lot of other statutes that allow the president to impost

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Speaker 8: tterff So if these ones get struck down or get

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Speaker 8: time limited, I think President Trump can come back with

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Speaker 8: other ways of going of erecting terriffs. And frankly, I

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Speaker 8: think the US Senate and the House should if the

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Speaker 8: Supreme Court decides this, should actually just completely reverse it

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Speaker 8: and say no, we think the president does need this power.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't there. I mean, pushback even from the

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Speaker 3: Republican side of the aisle, there was Ram Paul, I believe,

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Speaker 3: Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski. The question then becomes, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're discussing NUK the filibuster, for example, you've still got

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Speaker 3: Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Ram Paul, and Mitch McConnell. That

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Speaker 3: puts you at forty nine. You're not even at that

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Speaker 3: fifty to fifty mark. So Jadvance can cast a tie

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Speaker 3: breaking vote. You got to get one of those those

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Speaker 3: tricky senators on board. And then you got Tom Tellis,

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Speaker 3: who knows what's happening with him right now. He's he's

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Speaker 8: So traditionally you had a lot of Democrats who would

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Speaker 8: vote in favor of tariffs and supporting tariffs. There may

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Speaker 8: still be some hiding out there. The question is whether

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Speaker 8: or not, like their Trump derangement syndrome has overtaken what

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Speaker 8: used to be their loyalty to the you know, to

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Speaker 8: and maybe they cannot as a Democrat bring themselves to

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Speaker 8: vote for a you know, and a teriff authority for Trump.

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Speaker 8: But they should, it's good for working Americans, and Democrats

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Speaker 8: constantly claim that's who they're protecting, and so you know

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Speaker 8: the fact that they won't that would be a revealing moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree, John. And you've

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Speaker 3: you've even got the Atlanta Fed saying that we're expecting

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Speaker 3: that's their estimate, might be high, whatever, But the point is,

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Speaker 3: it seems like the economic indicators are all going in

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Speaker 3: the right direction right now. Part of the reason that

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Speaker 3: is is because the doomsdays about tariffs have been proven

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, absolutely been proven wrong. Look, unemployment fell, inflation

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Speaker 8: at rates much faster than any expected. I think that

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Speaker 8: everybody's got this wrong when they said that the terriffs

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Speaker 8: The opposite has happened. We're having an investment boom in America.

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Speaker 8: The news is good. The Trump administration needs to get

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Speaker 8: that news out there, but frankly, I think it's going

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Speaker 3: fed approach has already been proven wrong. Can you describe

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Speaker 3: this story? You know, so Judge Janine, I call her

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Speaker 3: judge Janine. Still so she's got charges or she's indicting

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Speaker 3: Jerome Powell. Some of these corruption allegations about the federal

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Speaker 3: building that he's been constructing for years, they call him

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Speaker 3: too late pale. Just give us the lowdown here with

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Speaker 3: with Jerome Pape.

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Speaker 8: So what what happened is Jerome Powell did something unprecedented.

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Speaker 8: On Sunday night, he posted a video in which he

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Speaker 8: said that he has received subpoenas from the Justice Department,

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Speaker 8: and he went far beyond denying having done anything wrong

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Speaker 8: with the renovation of what people are calling the FED Mahal,

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Speaker 8: this two point five billion dollar renovation to their headquarters.

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Speaker 8: He and he denied, and he went beyond denying misleading

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Speaker 8: a Senate panel when he testified about it, he actually

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Speaker 8: accused the Trump administration of using this inquiry into these

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Speaker 8: matters to trying to subvert the independence of the Federal Reserve.

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Speaker 8: He has no evidence of that at all, and in fact,

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Speaker 8: the President immediately said no, that we're not doing that.

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Speaker 8: Judge Janine Jeanine Piro, who is the US Attorney for

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Speaker 8: the District of Columbia, said that's not what's happening. What

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Speaker 8: happened was we had a bunch of questions about the renovation.

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Speaker 8: We tried to get the Fed to answer them. They

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Speaker 8: wouldn't answer the questions, which is outrageous for any part

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Speaker 8: of the government to not answer inquiries from the Department

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Speaker 8: of Justice, and so we had to issue subpoenas she

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Speaker 8: put it out that they haven't indicted anyone. What they

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Speaker 8: are doing is just seeking answers to questions. Powell escalated

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Speaker 8: this into eight crisis, and then you had, you know,

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Speaker 8: the legacy media freak out act like you know, Donald

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Speaker 8: you know again, sort of Trump arrangement syndrome. Assuming the

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Speaker 8: worst possible interpretation of this, that Donald Trump was using

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Speaker 8: the Justice Department to go after Powell to try to

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Speaker 8: seize control of the FED. None of that is happening,

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Speaker 8: And in fact, that's one of the reasons the markets

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Speaker 8: have reacted to this so calmly, because people aren't seeing

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Speaker 8: this as a power grab by Trump. They're seeing it

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Speaker 8: as actually a very aggressive move by Powell. Look, Powell

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Speaker 8: is out.

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Speaker 2: Of office as chairman in May.

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Speaker 8: Trump doesn't need to go after anybody. He gets to

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Speaker 8: appoint the next guy. So the idea that like Trump

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Speaker 8: would use the Justice Department to pursue put now doesn't

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Speaker 8: really make any sense, and that doesn't appear to be

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Speaker 8: what happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Trump, thank you for that explanation. That's actually

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Speaker 3: really clarifying. Trump is touring a Ford factory right now.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of touting domestic manufacturing, So we hear this

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Speaker 3: number a lot, John about how many trillions of dollars

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Speaker 3: of investment foreign direct investment business is investing in the

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Speaker 3: United States. Again, Scott Besson has said that we twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five was setting the table. Twenty twenty six is

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Speaker 3: the banquet and the feast. How true is that going

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Speaker 3: to be? What can we expect? What are you looking

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Speaker 3: at as far as growth rates in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: Because I'm thinking about midterms, so I want to I

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Speaker 3: want to know are we going to make the deadline?

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Speaker 3: Are people going to feel it financially before the midterms?

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Speaker 8: I do think they will. In fact, if you if

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Speaker 8: you look at the growth rate we had three point

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Speaker 8: eight then four point one. Is three point eight in

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Speaker 8: the second tour, in the second quarter, three four point

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Speaker 8: one in the second or the third now and now

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Speaker 8: it looks like we may be growing again. That Atlanta

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Speaker 8: fat as you mentioned, says above five percent. That seems

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Speaker 8: probably an overestimation to me, but we're certainly growing at

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Speaker 8: a very rapid rate. The American people will feel this.

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Speaker 8: One of the probably the biggest way they'll feel this

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Speaker 8: is in their wages going.

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Speaker 2: Up much faster than inflation.

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Speaker 8: That's great because it means people have more purchasing power.

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Speaker 2: It means that.

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Speaker 8: Things that they need to buy become more affordable. We're

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Speaker 8: also seeing the price of energy, particularly gasoline, come down dramatically.

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Speaker 8: That will also help a lot going into the mid terms.

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Speaker 8: It is one of gasoline is one of those things

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Speaker 8: that people really get upset about. I think the relief

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Speaker 8: on the energy side will actually and then that filters

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Speaker 8: into all sorts of products you buy, so I think

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Speaker 8: that will indeed actually help us grow really rapidly going

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Speaker 8: into this new year. We sort of have this momentum

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Speaker 8: built up from twenty twenty five twenty twenty six, looks

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Speaker 8: like it's going to be even stronger.

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Speaker 3: John Carney, great work as always. We'll see what happens

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Speaker 3: with Scotus on the tariff rulings. But it's good to

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Speaker 3: hear that President Trump and the Trump administration have outs

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Speaker 3: other levers they can pull to kind of exert their

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Speaker 3: teriff agenda, because I think it's actually really important from

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Speaker 3: a foreign policy also a domestic policy standpoint. Thank you

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Speaker 3: for adding a lot of light, a lot of clarity.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, John Carney, Thanks for having you guys. Absolutely

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Speaker 3: I have be back on again soon because I think

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Speaker 3: this issue is not going away anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you

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