1 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:25,820 Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 2 00:00:25,860 --> 00:00:29,340 Speaker 1: hours of Dennis's lectures, courses in classic radio programs, and 3 00:00:29,500 --> 00:00:42,540 Speaker 1: to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 4 00:00:42,580 --> 00:00:44,940 Speaker 2: All right, me, my friends, you're listening to the Dennis 5 00:00:44,940 --> 00:00:48,099 Speaker 2: Prager Show show, where we truly talk about everything in 6 00:00:48,180 --> 00:00:53,180 Speaker 2: life and one of my favorite subjects male female differences. 7 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:54,980 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about. There's an article 8 00:00:54,980 --> 00:00:57,179 Speaker 2: and I want to thank those who sent this to me. 9 00:00:58,060 --> 00:01:01,140 Speaker 2: I would not have seen it otherwise. There is a study. Well, 10 00:01:01,180 --> 00:01:02,940 Speaker 2: first of all, a report that just came out in 11 00:01:03,060 --> 00:01:08,860 Speaker 2: New Scientists, which is a sophisticated journal, a popular but 12 00:01:08,980 --> 00:01:13,660 Speaker 2: sophisticated journal about science news. And I read to you 13 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:19,780 Speaker 2: from Asian News International that has made this report from 14 00:01:19,820 --> 00:01:26,820 Speaker 2: New Scientist widely available on the internet. Psychologists in Canada 15 00:01:26,940 --> 00:01:31,020 Speaker 2: finally proved that men are actually irrational enough to risk 16 00:01:31,260 --> 00:01:36,820 Speaker 2: entire kingdoms to catch sight of a pretty face. All right, 17 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:40,220 Speaker 2: According to a report in New Scientists dot com, biologists 18 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:44,740 Speaker 2: have long known that men like animals, and I want 19 00:01:44,780 --> 00:01:46,460 Speaker 2: to I'm going to talk to you about this like 20 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:50,620 Speaker 2: animals thing because a very important little throwaway line that 21 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:54,820 Speaker 2: they did not develop here. Prefer immediate rewards to long 22 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:58,900 Speaker 2: term benefits in the future. The process is known as 23 00:01:58,980 --> 00:02:05,700 Speaker 2: discounting the future. Immediately available cash is generally worth more 24 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:08,859 Speaker 2: than the same amount that would be in the future, 25 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:12,300 Speaker 2: but greater amounts of money in the future would be 26 00:02:12,380 --> 00:02:18,340 Speaker 2: worth waiting for under so called rational discounting. However, some people, 27 00:02:18,460 --> 00:02:23,660 Speaker 2: like drug addicts, exhibit irrational discounting when it comes to 28 00:02:23,740 --> 00:02:27,660 Speaker 2: choosing a small amount of heroin today rather than a 29 00:02:27,700 --> 00:02:31,860 Speaker 2: greater amount in the future. Margot Wilson and Martin Daly 30 00:02:31,940 --> 00:02:37,620 Speaker 2: of McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario decided to investigate discounting 31 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:41,780 Speaker 2: behavior and see if it varied with sexual mood. This 32 00:02:41,860 --> 00:02:45,100 Speaker 2: is a good study. Listen to this. Male students, when 33 00:02:45,140 --> 00:02:49,100 Speaker 2: shown pictures of pretty women, were more likely to opt 34 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:53,419 Speaker 2: for short term economic gain than wait for a better 35 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:57,580 Speaker 2: reward in the future. This is a remarkable test that 36 00:02:57,660 --> 00:03:02,180 Speaker 2: they did. It's almost funny to show how powerful how 37 00:03:02,220 --> 00:03:05,460 Speaker 2: it takes over a man's mind just seeing a pretty woman. 38 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:10,100 Speaker 2: Both male and female students at McMaster University were shown 39 00:03:10,180 --> 00:03:14,579 Speaker 2: pictures of the opposite sex of a varying attractiveness taken 40 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:18,540 Speaker 2: from the website hot or not. The two hundred and 41 00:03:18,580 --> 00:03:21,820 Speaker 2: nine students were then offered the chance to win a reward, 42 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:25,820 Speaker 2: and they could either accept a check for between fifteen 43 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:31,060 Speaker 2: dollars and thirty five dollars tomorrow or one fifty to 44 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:34,580 Speaker 2: seventy five dollars at a variable point in the future. 45 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:39,620 Speaker 2: The experts found that male students shown the pictures of 46 00:03:39,780 --> 00:03:45,340 Speaker 2: averagely attractive women showed exponential discounting of the future value 47 00:03:45,380 --> 00:03:49,060 Speaker 2: of the reward, indicating that they had made a rational decision. 48 00:03:49,340 --> 00:03:52,420 Speaker 2: Let me make that very clear in case you're missing it. 49 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:55,340 Speaker 2: When the male students were shown a picture of an 50 00:03:55,340 --> 00:03:59,060 Speaker 2: averagely attractive woman and then afterwards offered do you want 51 00:03:59,060 --> 00:04:02,660 Speaker 2: to check for fifteen to thirty five dollars tomorrow or 52 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:06,140 Speaker 2: fifty to seventy five at a later date, that they 53 00:04:06,140 --> 00:04:11,700 Speaker 2: would note then then they would say, oh, I'll take 54 00:04:11,740 --> 00:04:15,260 Speaker 2: the more money a little later. They were making a 55 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:20,099 Speaker 2: rational decision. Now, let me continue. When male students were 56 00:04:20,140 --> 00:04:24,779 Speaker 2: shown picks of pretty women, they discounted the future value 57 00:04:24,820 --> 00:04:28,740 Speaker 2: of the reward, indicating that they had made an irrational decision. 58 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:34,460 Speaker 2: Now critical to understanding male female difference. Women, by contrast, 59 00:04:35,099 --> 00:04:39,460 Speaker 2: made equally rational decisions whether they had been shown pictures 60 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:45,620 Speaker 2: of handsome men or those of average attractiveness. Uh huh, 61 00:04:46,260 --> 00:04:48,940 Speaker 2: so much again, I tell you that that of all 62 00:04:48,980 --> 00:04:51,219 Speaker 2: the subjects, the one that has driven me the nuts 63 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:54,740 Speaker 2: my entire adult life. I mean, since college, has been 64 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:57,940 Speaker 2: the line that men and women are basically the same, 65 00:04:58,340 --> 00:05:01,020 Speaker 2: that men are taught to see women as sexual objects 66 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:05,900 Speaker 2: by playboy and the like. But really it's a societally 67 00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:13,100 Speaker 2: induced thing. It drives me nuts. Ignoramuses people truly ignorant 68 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:16,180 Speaker 2: of male and female say that, or women who say, oh, 69 00:05:16,180 --> 00:05:18,779 Speaker 2: come on, I'm not attracted to an attractive man. Of 70 00:05:18,820 --> 00:05:21,540 Speaker 2: course you are, of course, step but it's it's it. 71 00:05:21,540 --> 00:05:26,540 Speaker 2: There's no comparison in in what it does. Also, the 72 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:30,260 Speaker 2: number of men who will turn a woman's head be 73 00:05:31,020 --> 00:05:33,580 Speaker 2: a stranger stranger men in other words, a man that 74 00:05:33,620 --> 00:05:37,620 Speaker 2: she doesn't know from Adam, who will just have her, 75 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:43,180 Speaker 2: you know, turn her head and and and confound her 76 00:05:43,260 --> 00:05:46,140 Speaker 2: mind is tiny. Where the number of women who do 77 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:48,659 Speaker 2: that to men, ask men, I mean, it's it's it's 78 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:53,180 Speaker 2: it's legion. I mean that the number is huge. This 79 00:05:53,660 --> 00:05:56,540 Speaker 2: is a very good article because it is a good 80 00:05:56,580 --> 00:06:04,540 Speaker 2: study because it it once again provides scientific proof for 81 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:08,460 Speaker 2: the for the obvious. And unfortunately, people who go to 82 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:12,580 Speaker 2: college are taught not to believe wisdom, not to believe 83 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:17,219 Speaker 2: common sense, not to believe their own life, but to ask, 84 00:06:17,620 --> 00:06:21,099 Speaker 2: what do studies show? Okay, so for those of you 85 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:24,500 Speaker 2: who want to know what study show, studies show that 86 00:06:24,660 --> 00:06:28,900 Speaker 2: men's minds are easily confounded by the sight of a 87 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:33,420 Speaker 2: pretty woman, not to mention the rest of the female anatomy. 88 00:06:33,860 --> 00:06:37,539 Speaker 2: And this is just the face that presumably when it 89 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:42,980 Speaker 2: says a pretty woman, the power of sight is uniquely 90 00:06:43,260 --> 00:06:48,419 Speaker 2: male the woman. The eye doesn't do to the woman. 91 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:51,580 Speaker 2: The ear does to the woman a lot of things. 92 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:57,820 Speaker 2: How he talks, how how he smells those things, or 93 00:06:57,900 --> 00:07:01,820 Speaker 2: in looks is he clean? But a picture of a 94 00:07:01,860 --> 00:07:04,779 Speaker 2: good looking man. The woman is just going to continue 95 00:07:04,820 --> 00:07:08,460 Speaker 2: the work that she is doing. It doesn't whatever chemical 96 00:07:08,620 --> 00:07:11,300 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, reaction, it's not. It's not. It's 97 00:07:11,340 --> 00:07:16,420 Speaker 2: not in the same universe one eight Praeger seven seven 98 00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:19,340 Speaker 2: six one eight p R. A. G. E. R. Seven 99 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:22,580 Speaker 2: seven six. I'm going to give you more conclusions here, 100 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:26,180 Speaker 2: and you may want to react to them, because this 101 00:07:26,260 --> 00:07:28,620 Speaker 2: is a very you know, if you could make a 102 00:07:28,620 --> 00:07:30,860 Speaker 2: lot of fun out of this thing. You know, oh, 103 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:33,180 Speaker 2: you know, as they do in the very first sentence, 104 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:35,420 Speaker 2: which I didn't read to you, the men are going 105 00:07:35,460 --> 00:07:37,220 Speaker 2: to take a double turn on this is what has 106 00:07:37,260 --> 00:07:41,020 Speaker 2: been long suspected is finally established. In other words, it's 107 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:42,900 Speaker 2: it's a lot of, it's a lot of. It's not 108 00:07:42,980 --> 00:07:46,180 Speaker 2: a light subject, believe it or not. It can be 109 00:07:46,260 --> 00:07:49,820 Speaker 2: made into it because we don't want to acknowledge its seriousness. 110 00:07:50,020 --> 00:07:54,820 Speaker 2: But the eye plays havoc with men and therefore with women. 111 00:07:55,740 --> 00:08:00,340 Speaker 2: Women women sense it, sometimes know it, act on it, 112 00:08:01,060 --> 00:08:06,180 Speaker 2: deny it whatever it is, but its power cannot be overstated. 113 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:12,020 Speaker 2: That is why I'll give you two other, two other factors, 114 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:15,540 Speaker 2: two other conclusions from this. That is why what women 115 00:08:15,660 --> 00:08:20,860 Speaker 2: wear is of such extraordinary importance because of the impact 116 00:08:20,860 --> 00:08:26,860 Speaker 2: that it has on men. Now, I'm not saying we 117 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:30,739 Speaker 2: can't pass laws, and we shouldn't pass laws, and God knows, 118 00:08:30,820 --> 00:08:33,340 Speaker 2: I think that the veil and the chador, these are 119 00:08:33,420 --> 00:08:38,140 Speaker 2: dehumanizing things for women. But let us I'm not even 120 00:08:38,179 --> 00:08:40,660 Speaker 2: taking a position. Well, I have a position, as many 121 00:08:40,699 --> 00:08:45,660 Speaker 2: of you know. I think that that a sober understanding 122 00:08:45,699 --> 00:08:49,660 Speaker 2: of the effect of how I, as a woman appear 123 00:08:49,780 --> 00:08:54,699 Speaker 2: to men is critical. We need to soberly consider what 124 00:08:54,740 --> 00:08:58,699 Speaker 2: will I want to show. But there is also another factor, 125 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:01,860 Speaker 2: and that is I'll never forget. I was listening once 126 00:09:01,980 --> 00:09:06,820 Speaker 2: to a talk show host. A woman had called in 127 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:11,060 Speaker 2: said that she had found out that her husband was 128 00:09:11,060 --> 00:09:17,180 Speaker 2: looking at sexy images on the computer, and the talk 129 00:09:17,220 --> 00:09:24,620 Speaker 2: show host said, your husband is sick and needs help. Now, folks, 130 00:09:24,980 --> 00:09:28,180 Speaker 2: there are religious reasons, there are a whole host of 131 00:09:28,260 --> 00:09:34,060 Speaker 2: reasons not to involve oneself in those images. But it 132 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:38,900 Speaker 2: is not sick men look because that is the way 133 00:09:39,020 --> 00:09:43,980 Speaker 2: we are programmed, and the power of it is not 134 00:09:44,660 --> 00:09:48,620 Speaker 2: is not understandable by the female. You can't any more 135 00:09:48,660 --> 00:09:53,380 Speaker 2: than than a male can understand. I don't know how 136 00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:56,260 Speaker 2: many things go on in a woman's mind at one time. 137 00:09:56,980 --> 00:10:00,340 Speaker 2: I don't think we can. It's it's not available to 138 00:10:00,420 --> 00:10:05,940 Speaker 2: us because we are basically uh una attentive. One thing 139 00:10:06,020 --> 00:10:09,620 Speaker 2: at a time is what we attend to. But the 140 00:10:09,740 --> 00:10:12,420 Speaker 2: power of the eye that that a man. I mean, 141 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:19,140 Speaker 2: this is an unbelievable study, an unbelievably important study. Guys 142 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:22,740 Speaker 2: will make irrational decision financially just because they saw a 143 00:10:22,740 --> 00:10:26,340 Speaker 2: pretty face. It wasn't even to get the woman. It 144 00:10:26,380 --> 00:10:29,940 Speaker 2: was they've already got confounded in their thinking just by 145 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:33,500 Speaker 2: the look. Do you agree? Do you have any issue 146 00:10:33,540 --> 00:10:36,340 Speaker 2: with what I am saying or this study? Do you 147 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:40,060 Speaker 2: the power of the eye in men? You as a woman? 148 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:43,220 Speaker 2: Does it bother you? Do you act on it? Do 149 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:46,660 Speaker 2: you understand it? Does this trouble you? Do you disagree? 150 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:49,740 Speaker 2: Do you think women have it the same way? One 151 00:10:49,820 --> 00:10:53,420 Speaker 2: eighth Prager seven seven six. One eighth p R A 152 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:56,820 Speaker 2: g e r seven seven six. A gay man in 153 00:10:56,860 --> 00:10:59,500 Speaker 2: Honolulu on the line, and I know what he's gonna say, 154 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:01,220 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna let him say it because it will 155 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:05,980 Speaker 2: prove my point even further. One eighth Praguer seven seven six. 156 00:11:06,260 --> 00:11:07,540 Speaker 2: The Dennis Prager Show. 157 00:11:08,780 --> 00:11:12,140 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 158 00:11:16,620 --> 00:11:28,380 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 159 00:11:28,660 --> 00:11:32,699 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager here, I love it. Take five one of 160 00:11:32,740 --> 00:11:35,180 Speaker 2: the great jazz things, one of the great gifts to 161 00:11:35,220 --> 00:11:38,300 Speaker 2: my life in the last five years. Appreciation of a 162 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:44,100 Speaker 2: lot of jazz, happy, optimistic, free music. Just a lot 163 00:11:44,140 --> 00:11:45,459 Speaker 2: of it. I mean a lot of it's junk. A 164 00:11:45,460 --> 00:11:47,300 Speaker 2: lot of every music is drunk. A lot of classical 165 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:50,339 Speaker 2: is junk. And that's my background. So you know that's 166 00:11:50,380 --> 00:11:53,780 Speaker 2: the way it goes. One eighth Prager seven seven six. 167 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:56,500 Speaker 2: This study that came out of a Canadian university is 168 00:11:56,500 --> 00:12:01,380 Speaker 2: a good one. Showed guys and girls at the university, 169 00:12:01,660 --> 00:12:06,540 Speaker 2: men and women. They showed them attractive, very attractive, and 170 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:10,699 Speaker 2: you know, average looking members of the opposite sex, and 171 00:12:10,740 --> 00:12:15,300 Speaker 2: then tested their rationality on a very simple question that 172 00:12:15,340 --> 00:12:18,140 Speaker 2: would determine how reasonable they were. The men lost a 173 00:12:18,140 --> 00:12:20,620 Speaker 2: lot of their rationality after seeing pictures of pretty women, 174 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:24,220 Speaker 2: and the women were completely unaffected by seeing pictures of 175 00:12:24,220 --> 00:12:28,180 Speaker 2: attractive men. And an attractiveness was taken off a website 176 00:12:28,179 --> 00:12:32,460 Speaker 2: that judges attractiveness of people, the power of the male eye, 177 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:35,740 Speaker 2: the female power, but not just female. And the proof 178 00:12:35,780 --> 00:12:39,100 Speaker 2: that this isn't societal, but this is innate comes from 179 00:12:39,140 --> 00:12:41,980 Speaker 2: a call that I am about to take from Tim 180 00:12:42,020 --> 00:12:45,740 Speaker 2: in Honolulu on k h n R. Tim Dennis Prager, 181 00:12:45,780 --> 00:12:46,580 Speaker 2: thank you for calling. 182 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:50,300 Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, Hey, I love Take five. 183 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:55,460 Speaker 2: Also, how can you not you just need ears? 184 00:12:56,140 --> 00:12:58,620 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to confirm what you said because 185 00:12:58,660 --> 00:13:02,460 Speaker 3: I'm a gay man and my head is turned when 186 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:04,620 Speaker 3: I see an attractive guy, and I think it is 187 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:06,620 Speaker 3: innate exactly. 188 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:10,220 Speaker 2: Gay men are the proof that I always offer for 189 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:14,300 Speaker 2: male female differences that there is only one difference between 190 00:13:14,340 --> 00:13:18,940 Speaker 2: you and me, is sexually speaking, only one the object 191 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:22,740 Speaker 2: of our attention of ours, that which attracts us is 192 00:13:23,140 --> 00:13:25,940 Speaker 2: a different sex. But in every other way, the gay 193 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:28,940 Speaker 2: man and the straight man are sexually the same. That 194 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:30,820 Speaker 2: is why. By the way, and I don't say this, 195 00:13:30,820 --> 00:13:34,420 Speaker 2: This is not a negative comment, It is just a comment. 196 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:38,300 Speaker 2: It is far harder I have to believe for gay 197 00:13:38,380 --> 00:13:41,939 Speaker 2: men to stay faithful to one another than for a 198 00:13:41,980 --> 00:13:43,660 Speaker 2: straight man and straight woman. 199 00:13:45,980 --> 00:13:48,300 Speaker 3: Well, that's an ethical thing. I think that's individual. 200 00:13:50,020 --> 00:13:53,620 Speaker 2: It's always individual. But I'm saying it's harder because the 201 00:13:53,660 --> 00:13:57,100 Speaker 2: male drive for variety, which you the gay man, and 202 00:13:57,140 --> 00:14:00,540 Speaker 2: I the straight man have. But I am curbed by 203 00:14:00,620 --> 00:14:05,060 Speaker 2: the fact that I am married to a female, whereas 204 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:07,820 Speaker 2: you are. You would be bonded to the extent that 205 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:09,699 Speaker 2: you would be to a man who has the same 206 00:14:09,820 --> 00:14:10,939 Speaker 2: drive for variety. 207 00:14:11,980 --> 00:14:14,620 Speaker 3: That's true, that's true, But it's also a good argument 208 00:14:14,660 --> 00:14:16,660 Speaker 3: for legalizing marriage to give the. 209 00:14:16,860 --> 00:14:19,900 Speaker 2: Well that yeah, that's Andrew Sullivan's argument. We debated that, 210 00:14:19,980 --> 00:14:22,140 Speaker 2: and I'm in his look in fact my essay, I 211 00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:25,700 Speaker 2: I don't it is a good argument if the only 212 00:14:25,780 --> 00:14:30,420 Speaker 2: purpose of marriage is to is to stop promiscuity. But 213 00:14:30,420 --> 00:14:33,100 Speaker 2: but it is not a good argument if if part 214 00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:36,620 Speaker 2: of the reason for marriage is to is to sanctify 215 00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:39,100 Speaker 2: male female relations. But I don't want to get into 216 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:42,940 Speaker 2: that because your call is extremely valuable for what it says. 217 00:14:43,140 --> 00:14:46,500 Speaker 2: People need to understand the male, the gay male looks 218 00:14:46,540 --> 00:14:49,180 Speaker 2: at men the way the straight male looks at women. 219 00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:52,820 Speaker 2: I mean, I see you know, I I see, I 220 00:14:52,860 --> 00:14:56,460 Speaker 2: see your your journals. I have absolutely often perused them, 221 00:14:56,980 --> 00:14:59,420 Speaker 2: and it is the men. The pictures of the men 222 00:14:59,540 --> 00:15:02,380 Speaker 2: are sex objects. That's why women can't say that men. 223 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:06,980 Speaker 2: They say that all all, all, you know, sex photos 224 00:15:07,020 --> 00:15:10,740 Speaker 2: of women. This is misogyny. It is no more anti 225 00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:14,580 Speaker 2: female those pictures of women than it is anti male 226 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:15,980 Speaker 2: the pictures you like of men. 227 00:15:17,980 --> 00:15:20,140 Speaker 3: That's right, it can't be degrading. But I also I 228 00:15:20,180 --> 00:15:22,780 Speaker 3: also know a lot of women whose heads turned a 229 00:15:22,820 --> 00:15:26,700 Speaker 3: lot faster than we might think. And maybe women are 230 00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:29,140 Speaker 3: just less willing to admit it now. 231 00:15:29,180 --> 00:15:32,100 Speaker 2: But this test was not about head turning. This test 232 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:36,140 Speaker 2: was the effects of seeing a particularly attractive member of 233 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:39,700 Speaker 2: the other sex on straight men and straight women, and 234 00:15:39,740 --> 00:15:45,100 Speaker 2: the men's rationality ability declined, the women's were unaffected. So 235 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:47,860 Speaker 2: the fact that a woman's head will turn, and also 236 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:53,820 Speaker 2: it will turn because the male the what attracts or 237 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:57,180 Speaker 2: how he walks, how he dresses. I mean, it is 238 00:15:57,220 --> 00:16:01,380 Speaker 2: a very complex constellation of factors. Whereas for the man 239 00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:05,020 Speaker 2: a picture is sufficient, whereas for a woman a picture 240 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:05,900 Speaker 2: is not sufficient. 241 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:06,940 Speaker 3: Totally agree. 242 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:09,180 Speaker 2: All right, thank you for your call to him. I 243 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:12,900 Speaker 2: appreciate it that. I'll tell you anybody who ever argues 244 00:16:12,940 --> 00:16:16,620 Speaker 2: with you about well, these generalizations about male sexual nature, 245 00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:19,700 Speaker 2: and they're just generalizations. And a lot of women are 246 00:16:19,780 --> 00:16:22,460 Speaker 2: like that. And and anyway, if men are like that, 247 00:16:22,540 --> 00:16:25,220 Speaker 2: it was because it's a sexist society that portrays women 248 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:27,700 Speaker 2: as sex objects. How do you explain them? Gay men? 249 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:31,900 Speaker 2: The way they look at men, which is identical? Identical? 250 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:36,980 Speaker 2: Alrighty one eighth Prager seven seven six. Now let's go 251 00:16:37,060 --> 00:16:44,420 Speaker 2: to Cindy in Peoria, Arizona on KKNT. Hello Cindy, Dennis Prager, Hello. 252 00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:49,140 Speaker 4: Hi, this is such an interesting topic. I finally realized 253 00:16:49,380 --> 00:16:53,020 Speaker 4: how visually motivated men were about three years ago. And 254 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:53,540 Speaker 4: I'll tell you. 255 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:56,540 Speaker 2: Wait, and how old are you? I'm thirty four, Okay, 256 00:16:56,660 --> 00:16:58,500 Speaker 2: So it took till thirty one. 257 00:16:58,740 --> 00:16:59,700 Speaker 4: Isn't that disgusting. 258 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,700 Speaker 2: Well, I have a lot of comments on that, and 259 00:17:01,740 --> 00:17:04,940 Speaker 2: I'll make them afterwards. How did it happen at thirty one? 260 00:17:05,540 --> 00:17:09,940 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you. I think it had a lot 261 00:17:09,980 --> 00:17:11,699 Speaker 4: to do with the fact that I was taking my 262 00:17:12,220 --> 00:17:16,580 Speaker 4: faith more seriously. And now this sounds crazy about reading 263 00:17:16,619 --> 00:17:21,540 Speaker 4: the Bible and intensively and realize that God has a 264 00:17:21,580 --> 00:17:26,179 Speaker 4: lot to say about women and men and how women 265 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:30,219 Speaker 4: dressed and I and just you know the story like 266 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:33,779 Speaker 4: David and Bathsheba, things like that. And I guess I 267 00:17:33,859 --> 00:17:37,939 Speaker 4: took I gave God more credit than I gave the 268 00:17:37,979 --> 00:17:38,740 Speaker 4: other people in my life. 269 00:17:38,780 --> 00:17:41,219 Speaker 2: Well, I'll put it in a slightly different way. I 270 00:17:42,419 --> 00:17:47,820 Speaker 2: absolutely believe that secular women are far more naive about 271 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:51,540 Speaker 2: male nature than religious women are. Yes, I would bet, 272 00:17:51,619 --> 00:17:56,100 Speaker 2: I would bet everything on it that secular women understand 273 00:17:56,179 --> 00:17:58,179 Speaker 2: men less than religious women do. 274 00:17:58,459 --> 00:18:01,780 Speaker 4: Yes, in my experience, that is very much the case. 275 00:18:01,820 --> 00:18:05,019 Speaker 4: And I see that in my family that the women 276 00:18:05,060 --> 00:18:09,340 Speaker 4: in my family who do not have any religious conviction, 277 00:18:10,139 --> 00:18:13,499 Speaker 4: they dress no, no, I'm not listening, so I can 278 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:16,659 Speaker 4: say they dress like horse. And the women in my 279 00:18:16,699 --> 00:18:21,340 Speaker 4: family who love God, they rest in a way that 280 00:18:21,379 --> 00:18:25,739 Speaker 4: shows that they also love men and respect their temptations. 281 00:18:25,580 --> 00:18:28,939 Speaker 2: Right, And it is because they are more willing to 282 00:18:29,020 --> 00:18:32,659 Speaker 2: acknowledge the effect of how they dress on men very much. 283 00:18:32,739 --> 00:18:35,300 Speaker 2: That's right, That's what I mean. They know men better. 284 00:18:35,580 --> 00:18:39,859 Speaker 4: And you know, I'll tell you this whole revelation has 285 00:18:39,899 --> 00:18:42,179 Speaker 4: affected me in two very profound ways, and the first 286 00:18:42,219 --> 00:18:46,219 Speaker 4: one is simply, my relationships with men are so much 287 00:18:46,540 --> 00:18:49,820 Speaker 4: better now. I dress modestly and I can have such 288 00:18:49,859 --> 00:18:53,300 Speaker 4: wonderful conversations with men and they're not just struggled. 289 00:18:53,619 --> 00:18:57,139 Speaker 2: I would ask a woman to do the following test. Obviously, 290 00:18:57,219 --> 00:19:01,619 Speaker 2: you know, a woman would from from basically attractive to 291 00:19:01,780 --> 00:19:05,539 Speaker 2: very attractive. Would I would ask her to do a test, 292 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:10,780 Speaker 2: and that is at work or anywhere else, to dress provocatively, 293 00:19:11,419 --> 00:19:14,020 Speaker 2: and then to dress modestly. And by modestly, I don't 294 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:16,419 Speaker 2: mean to the ankles, and I don't mean to the risks, 295 00:19:16,459 --> 00:19:18,659 Speaker 2: and I don't mean to the neck, and I don't 296 00:19:18,699 --> 00:19:22,619 Speaker 2: mean in a bag form fitting. Let the world know 297 00:19:22,699 --> 00:19:25,059 Speaker 2: you're a woman and be proud of that. That's not 298 00:19:25,139 --> 00:19:27,859 Speaker 2: an issue. But I would ask a woman to dress 299 00:19:27,939 --> 00:19:32,580 Speaker 2: both ways and see how the world reacts to her 300 00:19:33,459 --> 00:19:36,700 Speaker 2: under the same conditions, where only her clothing has changed. 301 00:19:37,219 --> 00:19:40,820 Speaker 2: Thank you, Cindy. It's an extremely important call. You've got 302 00:19:40,859 --> 00:19:44,419 Speaker 2: to tell your daughters this. I will tell you why 303 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:47,419 Speaker 2: girls don't understand this. This has been my puzzle in life, 304 00:19:47,419 --> 00:19:51,100 Speaker 2: and I have an answer. One eighth Prager seven seven six. 305 00:19:51,459 --> 00:19:53,060 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Dennis Prager Show. 306 00:19:54,179 --> 00:19:57,539 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 307 00:20:02,020 --> 00:20:08,580 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 308 00:20:08,699 --> 00:20:11,179 Speaker 2: All right, my friends, this is the Dennis Prager Show. 309 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:16,499 Speaker 2: It's one of those things that is so important people 310 00:20:16,540 --> 00:20:18,899 Speaker 2: don't like to acknowledge it. It is the power of 311 00:20:18,979 --> 00:20:22,899 Speaker 2: the male eye, and it is it is incomparably more 312 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:28,260 Speaker 2: affected than the female eye. The female is affected through 313 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:35,060 Speaker 2: far more senses, and the male eye is. It is again, 314 00:20:35,139 --> 00:20:39,339 Speaker 2: incomparably more powerful in its effect on the male than 315 00:20:39,379 --> 00:20:42,619 Speaker 2: the female eye is on the female. This this study, 316 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:46,379 Speaker 2: That's why I'm reporting to because you know, I'm always uh. 317 00:20:47,060 --> 00:20:51,699 Speaker 2: My view of most studies is either they're wrong or 318 00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:55,340 Speaker 2: they confirm what we already knew. This confirms what we 319 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:57,259 Speaker 2: already knew, but it confirms it in a way that 320 00:20:57,379 --> 00:20:59,580 Speaker 2: is so powerful that I thought i'd bring it to 321 00:20:59,619 --> 00:21:02,739 Speaker 2: your attention. It's reported in The New Scientists. They showed 322 00:21:02,780 --> 00:21:05,619 Speaker 2: men and women in college pictures are pretty pretty members 323 00:21:05,619 --> 00:21:08,260 Speaker 2: of the opposite sex is judged on the internet as such, 324 00:21:09,020 --> 00:21:12,500 Speaker 2: and the if, the if, the male. The males, as 325 00:21:12,540 --> 00:21:16,100 Speaker 2: the pictures got prettier, made more and more irrational decisions 326 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:19,340 Speaker 2: on a very simple monetary matter, whereas the women were 327 00:21:19,379 --> 00:21:23,859 Speaker 2: completely unaffected in the irrational capacity. Now, women's reason is 328 00:21:23,899 --> 00:21:27,899 Speaker 2: profoundly affected by when she is in love, when she 329 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:31,179 Speaker 2: is emotionally caught up, or whatever it is in a 330 00:21:31,219 --> 00:21:35,139 Speaker 2: man for other reasons. But we're talking now just about 331 00:21:35,139 --> 00:21:38,139 Speaker 2: the power of looks. Here we have a thirty four 332 00:21:38,219 --> 00:21:40,419 Speaker 2: year old woman just called and said she didn't realize 333 00:21:40,459 --> 00:21:42,579 Speaker 2: this till thirty one, and she felt funny about it. 334 00:21:42,780 --> 00:21:44,579 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of women who don't realize 335 00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:50,019 Speaker 2: it at any age. And certainly girls don't understand this. 336 00:21:50,060 --> 00:21:53,419 Speaker 2: There's no way they could. We understand the world through 337 00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:57,139 Speaker 2: our own experience. But if you don't experience it that way, 338 00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:59,779 Speaker 2: I mean, do the boys' legs at high school have 339 00:21:59,859 --> 00:22:02,299 Speaker 2: the same effect on a girl in high school that 340 00:22:02,379 --> 00:22:05,419 Speaker 2: girl's legs have on boys? Of course not. The idea 341 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:08,699 Speaker 2: is preposterous. Oh my my god. I gotta have him. 342 00:22:08,739 --> 00:22:11,579 Speaker 2: I saw his legs. I mean, the idea is idiotic. 343 00:22:12,340 --> 00:22:21,260 Speaker 2: There is no comparable issue of power between the male 344 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:24,100 Speaker 2: and the female when I talk about male sexual nature, 345 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,379 Speaker 2: and I do a great deal, and is important, so 346 00:22:26,419 --> 00:22:29,939 Speaker 2: important for women to understand this and to understand that 347 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:33,019 Speaker 2: their husband is not is not sick if he sees, 348 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:36,859 Speaker 2: if he's attracted to billboards and to pictures and so on. 349 00:22:37,459 --> 00:22:40,219 Speaker 2: The issue of whether one should keep looking is a 350 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:44,739 Speaker 2: religious issue, is a psychological issue that's separate, but it 351 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:50,019 Speaker 2: is not abnormal. Don't call a man sick who's not sick. 352 00:22:52,219 --> 00:22:55,260 Speaker 2: And I and I have I have a great piece 353 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:57,739 Speaker 2: of advice. For example, for the guy who on a 354 00:22:57,859 --> 00:23:03,419 Speaker 2: date can't stop looking around, I tell him you should 355 00:23:03,419 --> 00:23:05,939 Speaker 2: sit in the restaurant and face the wall. Very simple. 356 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:08,939 Speaker 2: You have a just if you can't stop it, because 357 00:23:08,939 --> 00:23:10,939 Speaker 2: there are guys who do it when they're out with guys. 358 00:23:11,020 --> 00:23:13,699 Speaker 2: Forget that. When I have been at lunches with guys 359 00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:15,739 Speaker 2: and I can't talk to him, I call him radar 360 00:23:15,859 --> 00:23:18,979 Speaker 2: run where the you know the the He's like a 361 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:22,379 Speaker 2: radar tower, just moving from side to side. All right, 362 00:23:22,540 --> 00:23:25,460 Speaker 2: let's go to uh. By the way, do you agree. 363 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:28,299 Speaker 2: I made a very bold statement that I believe that 364 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:37,259 Speaker 2: in general, religious women understand men better than secular women do. 365 00:23:37,979 --> 00:23:40,660 Speaker 2: I have said frequently that my grandmother, who never went 366 00:23:40,699 --> 00:23:45,700 Speaker 2: to school ever had no schooling, understood men better than 367 00:23:45,739 --> 00:23:50,379 Speaker 2: the average woman who gets a PhD in sociology, and 368 00:23:50,419 --> 00:23:56,019 Speaker 2: not just sociology, maybe even psychology. That is how That 369 00:23:56,179 --> 00:23:58,459 Speaker 2: is a good example, by the way of why I 370 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,859 Speaker 2: think that there was so little wisdom at the universities. 371 00:24:01,179 --> 00:24:04,419 Speaker 2: This is a classic example. You have all that studying 372 00:24:04,899 --> 00:24:09,820 Speaker 2: and you won't even acknowledge this basic difference between between 373 00:24:09,859 --> 00:24:15,060 Speaker 2: men and women. I Pepper Pike, Ohio and Dan Dan 374 00:24:15,619 --> 00:24:17,820 Speaker 2: on WCCD. 375 00:24:17,179 --> 00:24:19,659 Speaker 5: High Hie Dennis, thanks for taking a call. 376 00:24:19,820 --> 00:24:20,260 Speaker 2: Thank you. 377 00:24:20,739 --> 00:24:23,060 Speaker 5: Wanted to note I wanted to make notice something. I 378 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:26,939 Speaker 5: happened to work a lot with the some Orthodox Jews 379 00:24:26,979 --> 00:24:29,619 Speaker 5: and they noticed that one day that some of them 380 00:24:29,659 --> 00:24:33,139 Speaker 5: have strings hanging out off the corners of their of 381 00:24:33,179 --> 00:24:35,619 Speaker 5: their pants. That's correct, and I asked them about what 382 00:24:35,659 --> 00:24:38,019 Speaker 5: the why why is it? And they said one of 383 00:24:38,020 --> 00:24:41,060 Speaker 5: the reasons why is because there's a biblical command not 384 00:24:41,139 --> 00:24:43,459 Speaker 5: to run after your eyes, that you should see the 385 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:46,580 Speaker 5: strings and to remember that is exactly right, and not 386 00:24:46,659 --> 00:24:49,139 Speaker 5: to chase after your eyes. But it's interesting to note 387 00:24:49,419 --> 00:24:52,980 Speaker 5: that Jewish women do not have the command. But you're 388 00:24:53,139 --> 00:24:57,580 Speaker 5: very that's right, you're very like you're saying that's. 389 00:24:57,459 --> 00:25:01,540 Speaker 2: Right because women, women's eyes get them in trouble with 390 00:25:01,659 --> 00:25:05,459 Speaker 2: more with objects than they do with men. Exactly, she 391 00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:09,500 Speaker 2: will see a jewelry, she will see a home, and 392 00:25:09,580 --> 00:25:13,179 Speaker 2: she will really or clothing and then she, uh, you know, 393 00:25:13,260 --> 00:25:16,580 Speaker 2: may make compromise your values in order to get that right. 394 00:25:16,659 --> 00:25:17,979 Speaker 5: But it all biblically based. 395 00:25:18,340 --> 00:25:22,979 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the whole point. See, you're raised, many of 396 00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:25,619 Speaker 2: you were raised at secular college in high school to 397 00:25:25,659 --> 00:25:29,500 Speaker 2: think that the religious folks are out of it. Some are, 398 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:32,259 Speaker 2: there's no question, But in this society it's more the 399 00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:34,300 Speaker 2: secular folks who are out of it. We'll be back 400 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:38,379 Speaker 2: in a moment, all right, everybody talking about the power 401 00:25:38,659 --> 00:25:42,939 Speaker 2: of the eye in men. This is a study that 402 00:25:42,979 --> 00:25:47,139 Speaker 2: I reported to you, and we'll try to put alan. 403 00:25:47,179 --> 00:25:49,180 Speaker 2: We'll try to put this up at the website there. 404 00:25:49,219 --> 00:25:52,579 Speaker 2: It's it's a fascinating study. It's originally reported in New 405 00:25:52,699 --> 00:25:58,060 Speaker 2: Scientists dot com. It comes from McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. 406 00:25:58,179 --> 00:26:02,340 Speaker 2: The men acting irrationally after just seeing pictures of pretty women. 407 00:26:02,379 --> 00:26:05,980 Speaker 2: The women and the watch seeing pictures of attractive men 408 00:26:06,020 --> 00:26:10,139 Speaker 2: having no effect on their rationality whatsoever. Let's go to 409 00:26:10,179 --> 00:26:14,580 Speaker 2: some of those who disagree or at least have different takes. 410 00:26:14,619 --> 00:26:17,819 Speaker 2: Some don't anyway, we'll go to all types. Got good 411 00:26:17,899 --> 00:26:22,939 Speaker 2: calls here. Let's go to JT in the Phoenix on 412 00:26:23,139 --> 00:26:23,939 Speaker 2: KKNT Hi. 413 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:28,019 Speaker 6: JT, Hey, Dennis, Hi say, I just think it's an 414 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,019 Speaker 6: interesting observation, simply that. And I don't know if this 415 00:26:31,139 --> 00:26:34,859 Speaker 6: is supported biblically at all. But I have, in all 416 00:26:34,939 --> 00:26:37,619 Speaker 6: the job interviews I've had in different jobs throughout my life, 417 00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:41,660 Speaker 6: then offered jobs based on phone interviews by women twice, 418 00:26:42,020 --> 00:26:44,139 Speaker 6: but never by a man. It was I always had 419 00:26:44,179 --> 00:26:46,100 Speaker 6: to be seen. They all had to be a face 420 00:26:46,139 --> 00:26:48,139 Speaker 6: to face, meaning an interview process in that. 421 00:26:48,179 --> 00:26:53,699 Speaker 2: Situation, whereas the men were hired on the phone. Is 422 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:54,499 Speaker 2: that what you're saying? 423 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:58,579 Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry. I have in all my years of interviewing, 424 00:26:58,739 --> 00:27:01,499 Speaker 6: I have on two occasions been hired based on a 425 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:03,219 Speaker 6: phone interview by a woman. 426 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:09,460 Speaker 2: But oh, I see, I see, Okay, Yeah that's interesting, Yeah, 427 00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:10,259 Speaker 2: that is interesting. 428 00:27:10,939 --> 00:27:13,939 Speaker 6: I've been hired by a man without a face to 429 00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:15,100 Speaker 6: face interview. 430 00:27:15,139 --> 00:27:17,100 Speaker 2: Never but twice by a woman. 431 00:27:17,419 --> 00:27:17,979 Speaker 3: But twice. 432 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:22,539 Speaker 2: Well that that is interesting, because I I it is 433 00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:25,300 Speaker 2: absolutely I think it's a good example of a difference. 434 00:27:25,340 --> 00:27:28,060 Speaker 2: But I think it's ought to hire anybody without seeing them, 435 00:27:28,419 --> 00:27:29,659 Speaker 2: to be perfectly. 436 00:27:29,179 --> 00:27:31,819 Speaker 6: Honest, and yet two women have done it. 437 00:27:32,139 --> 00:27:34,459 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and I believe you. But the question is 438 00:27:34,459 --> 00:27:38,059 Speaker 2: with the men who It would be interesting. Would the 439 00:27:38,139 --> 00:27:43,259 Speaker 2: men who insisted on seeing you also equally insist on 440 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:47,020 Speaker 2: seeing a man before they hired him see? That would 441 00:27:47,060 --> 00:27:49,939 Speaker 2: be an interesting question. You know, maybe the visual even 442 00:27:49,979 --> 00:27:53,219 Speaker 2: in that case is important to men. But anyway, but 443 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:55,340 Speaker 2: it's a very good it's a good example. I think 444 00:27:55,379 --> 00:27:57,540 Speaker 2: it's a fair one. Thank you very much for that call. 445 00:27:58,419 --> 00:28:02,260 Speaker 2: Let's go to Leslian Manhattan Beach, California on KRLA. Hello 446 00:28:02,340 --> 00:28:03,299 Speaker 2: Leslie Dennis Prager. 447 00:28:03,419 --> 00:28:06,739 Speaker 7: Hi, Dennis. I was prompted to call because your conversation 448 00:28:06,899 --> 00:28:08,859 Speaker 7: with the woman in her thirties. First of all, I 449 00:28:08,899 --> 00:28:11,379 Speaker 7: wanted to say it took her till she was in 450 00:28:11,379 --> 00:28:14,899 Speaker 7: her thirties. I found out that men were visually affected 451 00:28:14,899 --> 00:28:17,740 Speaker 7: when I was thirteen and used to walk to school 452 00:28:17,859 --> 00:28:21,499 Speaker 7: in my Catholic schoolgirls outfit, and no just that grown 453 00:28:21,619 --> 00:28:24,660 Speaker 7: men would stop in traffic. So why it took her 454 00:28:24,699 --> 00:28:27,379 Speaker 7: that long to realize how men were visually affected. I 455 00:28:27,419 --> 00:28:28,659 Speaker 7: don't really understand. 456 00:28:30,619 --> 00:28:32,739 Speaker 2: Well, well, it's interesting that you went you went to 457 00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:35,139 Speaker 2: Catholic school. Well you went to Catholic school. 458 00:28:35,179 --> 00:28:35,980 Speaker 7: I went to Catholic. 459 00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:40,060 Speaker 2: Well that may but I believe that in in traditional 460 00:28:40,180 --> 00:28:44,059 Speaker 2: religious places, they teach about the concept of modesty and 461 00:28:44,060 --> 00:28:46,620 Speaker 2: the effect of clothing on men more readily than at 462 00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:49,500 Speaker 2: other places, and that that may have been you may 463 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:53,779 Speaker 2: have had already a thought process that enabled you to 464 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:56,940 Speaker 2: understand why they were stopping. I want to tell you something. 465 00:28:57,060 --> 00:29:00,860 Speaker 2: I ran an institute for college age kids for seven years. 466 00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:04,340 Speaker 2: They would spend the summers there in warm southern California, 467 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:07,700 Speaker 2: and they could dress any way they wanted. And I 468 00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:12,380 Speaker 2: remember a conversation with an intelligent a girl of nineteen 469 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:17,380 Speaker 2: or twenty who dressed very provocatively and had something to 470 00:29:17,459 --> 00:29:20,499 Speaker 2: provoke with. And when we had our one on one meeting, 471 00:29:20,820 --> 00:29:23,420 Speaker 2: I asked her, how's your summer going? And she opened 472 00:29:23,459 --> 00:29:26,340 Speaker 2: up to me because they knew they could, and she said, well, 473 00:29:26,380 --> 00:29:28,420 Speaker 2: you know, I really feel the men don't relate to me. 474 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:30,019 Speaker 2: Is real. I think they relate to me as a 475 00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:32,420 Speaker 2: sex object. And I said to her, do you think 476 00:29:32,459 --> 00:29:35,020 Speaker 2: there might be any reason for that? And she said, 477 00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:38,180 Speaker 2: I can't think of any and I you know I 478 00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:40,620 Speaker 2: want I wanted to throw my chair at her. 479 00:29:40,660 --> 00:29:42,900 Speaker 7: Well, I got to tell you something. I got to 480 00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:47,300 Speaker 7: disagree because the reason I called is because I feel 481 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:49,860 Speaker 7: what I want to say is when you when a 482 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:53,940 Speaker 7: woman puts on a victorious secret push up bra, you 483 00:29:54,219 --> 00:29:56,860 Speaker 7: you act as if what what what you're saying? What 484 00:29:56,940 --> 00:29:59,380 Speaker 7: I infer from what you're saying is she has no idea? 485 00:29:59,459 --> 00:30:03,820 Speaker 2: What oll no? No? When a woman does that, You're right, obviously, 486 00:30:03,860 --> 00:30:07,100 Speaker 2: But I want to tell you something right now. I 487 00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:11,140 Speaker 2: tell you half the women in this country are likely 488 00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:15,539 Speaker 2: to say that they they dress a certain way, or 489 00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:20,860 Speaker 2: they have a a an enhanced breast operation or what 490 00:30:20,979 --> 00:30:23,820 Speaker 2: have you for, and has nothing to do with how 491 00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:24,940 Speaker 2: they will look to men. 492 00:30:25,340 --> 00:30:28,579 Speaker 7: Dennis, What we say and what we really mean are 493 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:30,660 Speaker 7: two different things. No woman is going to come on 494 00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:32,259 Speaker 7: the radio and tell you the truth. 495 00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:32,660 Speaker 2: Why not? 496 00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:34,299 Speaker 7: Why should she? 497 00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:36,219 Speaker 2: Why should wait? Wait? Why shouldn't she? 498 00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:39,580 Speaker 7: Women have bad natures, Just like I could. 499 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:40,900 Speaker 2: Agree with you, I both. 500 00:30:40,739 --> 00:30:44,340 Speaker 7: Sexist, and what our nature says is that's the man 501 00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:46,540 Speaker 7: I want him. I don't care what I have to 502 00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:47,059 Speaker 7: do together. 503 00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:50,780 Speaker 2: I agree with you entirely, I do. But I'm telling 504 00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:53,380 Speaker 2: you that there was a tremendous amount of self denial 505 00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:56,860 Speaker 2: on the conscious level. There is, you know, I just 506 00:30:57,860 --> 00:31:01,060 Speaker 2: the whole feminist the whole feminist thing is men, we 507 00:31:01,180 --> 00:31:03,580 Speaker 2: dress the way we want. You have nothing to say 508 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:06,260 Speaker 2: about it. We dressed the way we want for our 509 00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:09,780 Speaker 2: own reasons, and you know, if it bothers you, that's 510 00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:10,540 Speaker 2: your problem. 511 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:15,100 Speaker 7: But Dennis, I never met a hardcore feminist woman who 512 00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:17,180 Speaker 7: wore a push up bra in short short. 513 00:31:17,340 --> 00:31:20,100 Speaker 2: Yes, but they but women don't wear push up bras 514 00:31:20,459 --> 00:31:23,900 Speaker 2: is general outdoors as much as they will as lingerie 515 00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:27,140 Speaker 2: for their for their man. I mean, let's be honest. 516 00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,860 Speaker 2: I mean the push up bra you're taking an extreme 517 00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:35,300 Speaker 2: example just in the normally provocative clothing that is worn 518 00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:38,819 Speaker 2: today by young women. If you interviewed the women and 519 00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:42,020 Speaker 2: you and you gave them truth serum, and you ask 520 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:45,140 Speaker 2: them why are you wearing this? And I bet you, 521 00:31:45,219 --> 00:31:47,900 Speaker 2: on a conscious level, half of it would be they 522 00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:51,219 Speaker 2: just want to look attractive. And they say, well, do 523 00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:54,580 Speaker 2: you want to sexually excite men? No, that's not it. 524 00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:58,180 Speaker 7: Well, Dennis, they may not answer yes to I want 525 00:31:58,219 --> 00:32:01,580 Speaker 7: to sexually excite men. But if you ask a fourteen 526 00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:03,580 Speaker 7: year old girl when you were hip huggers like that 527 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:05,059 Speaker 7: to the boys pay attention to you? 528 00:32:05,219 --> 00:32:09,500 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, Yes, pay attention. Yes, that's right, pay attention. 529 00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:13,420 Speaker 2: But its effect on the mail is not something that 530 00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:16,819 Speaker 2: most girls. I would say ninety percent of girls do 531 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:19,660 Speaker 2: not understand by the way they can't. I don't blame them. 532 00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:22,020 Speaker 2: I blame pair terrans for not teaching them. 533 00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:26,219 Speaker 7: Well, I gotta choose to disagree with you because I remember, 534 00:32:26,459 --> 00:32:27,420 Speaker 7: I know, but that was. 535 00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:29,580 Speaker 2: The I know, but as a Catholic school, and I 536 00:32:29,620 --> 00:32:33,019 Speaker 2: already addressed that fact. And uh, and I'll tell you 537 00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:35,660 Speaker 2: there is something special about the Catholic school uniforms. I 538 00:32:35,660 --> 00:32:39,260 Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you. Be that as it may. 539 00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:41,500 Speaker 2: I really believe that because it was a Catholic school 540 00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:43,979 Speaker 2: and they did teach these things, that that may have 541 00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:47,380 Speaker 2: been a factor in the way you understood why the 542 00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:50,420 Speaker 2: cars were slowing down. Final segment on this If you 543 00:32:50,459 --> 00:32:52,740 Speaker 2: want to get in one eight praguer is a great call. 544 00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:56,019 Speaker 2: One eight praguer seven seven six one eight p R 545 00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:58,739 Speaker 2: A G E R seven seven six Are women aware? 546 00:32:58,820 --> 00:33:01,820 Speaker 2: Are girls aware? Of what I'm talking about. You're listening 547 00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:02,940 Speaker 2: to the Dennis Prager Show. 548 00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:07,900 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 549 00:33:12,380 --> 00:33:13,700 Speaker 2: Now back to more. 550 00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:19,100 Speaker 1: Of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 551 00:33:19,219 --> 00:33:22,060 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, let's get us my make calls as possible. Here. 552 00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:25,820 Speaker 2: Do women understand the power of man's eye and its 553 00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:29,660 Speaker 2: effect on them when they're seeing women in the way 554 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,579 Speaker 2: they're dressed, et cetera. Christina in San Diego is going 555 00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:37,500 Speaker 2: to refute the last caller. I guess, Hi, Christina, Dennis Prager, Hi, Hi, 556 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,860 Speaker 2: I just disagree. 557 00:33:40,459 --> 00:33:43,140 Speaker 8: With the woman that was left on. I just feel 558 00:33:43,219 --> 00:33:46,340 Speaker 8: like day. For example, this morning, I was in sweat 559 00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:49,300 Speaker 8: and a sweatshirt of ques play outfit. But now I'm 560 00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:51,380 Speaker 8: going out to lunch with my husband and we're just 561 00:33:51,380 --> 00:33:54,459 Speaker 8: gonna go to the mall. And I feel better about 562 00:33:54,459 --> 00:33:57,539 Speaker 8: myself when I feel like I have a pretty good figure. 563 00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:00,779 Speaker 8: I'm thirty four years old, I have two children. I 564 00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:03,500 Speaker 8: feel great about myself. I want to you know, I'm 565 00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:06,180 Speaker 8: proud of me. I'm gonna put something on that says 566 00:34:06,459 --> 00:34:10,340 Speaker 8: I'm proud of me. It's not to make guys tongues 567 00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:13,660 Speaker 8: wag or to make women go oh, God, do you 568 00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:17,020 Speaker 8: see what she's got on. I have on four footing jeans, 569 00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:20,259 Speaker 8: a nice fitted turtleneck. And you know what it's all 570 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:23,180 Speaker 8: about how it makes you feel as a woman. If 571 00:34:23,219 --> 00:34:25,379 Speaker 8: that's what makes you feel good about you, and you're 572 00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:29,299 Speaker 8: gonna have a positive outlook on others in on life 573 00:34:29,660 --> 00:34:33,259 Speaker 8: just by how you dress. They're dressed like that, and 574 00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:36,380 Speaker 8: those fourteen your own girls that are wearing those hip hunters, 575 00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:40,100 Speaker 8: good for them. They feel good about themselves. I mean 576 00:34:40,219 --> 00:34:43,380 Speaker 8: more women are going to the gym now. They're feeling 577 00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:47,460 Speaker 8: better about themselves, you know they. I just think that 578 00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:53,219 Speaker 8: for other women or men to criticize women that wear 579 00:34:53,380 --> 00:34:57,020 Speaker 8: things form fitting and say they look like sless or whatever, 580 00:34:57,259 --> 00:34:59,580 Speaker 8: I think it's because that person doesn't feel good enough 581 00:34:59,580 --> 00:35:03,500 Speaker 8: about themselves to put something on. It says, look at me, 582 00:35:03,739 --> 00:35:06,060 Speaker 8: here I am, I've walked into the room. You can 583 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:06,660 Speaker 8: come talk to me. 584 00:35:07,859 --> 00:35:10,779 Speaker 2: Okay, I thank you. I you know, I've spoken so much. 585 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:13,460 Speaker 2: I just want to take calls there. But that that 586 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:17,060 Speaker 2: is what exactly what I argued to the last call er. 587 00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:19,819 Speaker 2: That is what a lot of women will say. It 588 00:35:19,859 --> 00:35:22,939 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with its effect on men, and 589 00:35:23,859 --> 00:35:26,620 Speaker 2: they don't even know what the effect might be, and 590 00:35:26,660 --> 00:35:29,219 Speaker 2: it is not of interest to them now whether that 591 00:35:29,339 --> 00:35:31,660 Speaker 2: is correct or not, or good or not, or bad 592 00:35:31,739 --> 00:35:34,259 Speaker 2: or not. We have talked about good or bad. But 593 00:35:35,020 --> 00:35:37,380 Speaker 2: I am telling you that a lot of girls today 594 00:35:38,140 --> 00:35:40,499 Speaker 2: do not know the effect on men. I'm not saying 595 00:35:40,540 --> 00:35:43,499 Speaker 2: Christina doesn't. I don't know she does or doesn't, but 596 00:35:43,580 --> 00:35:46,499 Speaker 2: she is saying, on any conscious level, I am doing 597 00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:49,259 Speaker 2: it because this is the way I like the way 598 00:35:49,339 --> 00:35:53,459 Speaker 2: I look. And that is why I'm saying there is 599 00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:55,700 Speaker 2: in this As in so much of life, there's a 600 00:35:55,739 --> 00:36:00,060 Speaker 2: religious secular divide in understanding men and having a sense 601 00:36:00,140 --> 00:36:03,700 Speaker 2: of well, wait a minute, if it does have effect B. 602 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:09,660 Speaker 2: If dressing in fashion A has effect A or effect 603 00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:14,299 Speaker 2: B on men, the religious female is more likely to say, well, 604 00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:17,779 Speaker 2: wait a minute, feeling good about myself can't be the 605 00:36:17,819 --> 00:36:21,939 Speaker 2: only criterion for the way I dress, Yes, given the 606 00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:26,259 Speaker 2: way it affects men. I'm not here to even advocate, 607 00:36:26,299 --> 00:36:29,859 Speaker 2: as much as I am to clarify there is in 608 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,580 Speaker 2: this arena, and this is only a part of why 609 00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:35,339 Speaker 2: I even raised this. As in so much else, a 610 00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:39,219 Speaker 2: big division in this world between the secular outlook and 611 00:36:39,299 --> 00:36:42,899 Speaker 2: what's called Judaeo Christian you're listening to the Dennis Prager Show. 612 00:36:42,940 --> 00:36:45,940 Speaker 2: Love your email at Dennispraguer dot com. Thanks for listening. 613 00:36:51,259 --> 00:36:55,539 Speaker 1: This has been timeless wisdom with Dennis Prager. 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