1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Carl McDonalds. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Frump has said that Brown University is just playing for 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: this shooting and saying it's the school's problem. 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 3: Is that a fair criticism or do you disagree with 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 3: what the president? 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: I don't be fair Christians? 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 4: Why not we goes Brown University with you guys, you're 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 4: lying to the press o. 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: We're here. 10 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: They have fas recognition. 11 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 4: We know that because they follow this tool, then they 12 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 4: follow everybody in the neighborhood. They need to release that 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 4: day so everybody don't know who the guys we got 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 4: the video side with it. Why you got to release 15 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 4: the video today? 16 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Question? 17 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: Colonel I have just John, please just for a second, 18 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: a couple of things. First of all, Brown University and 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: Brown Public Safety, Brown Police Department has been a close 20 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: collaborator throughout this process. 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 4: That's no true. 22 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: I do not accept that criticism. 23 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: Come on we Secondly, everyone you see behind us, we've 24 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: all been working for now forty nine hours retired. 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, but doc, I want to get your response. Obviously, 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: there's been some updates in the case that that that 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk about. They do believe that they have a 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: suspect in mine. 29 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 30 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: I've read some uh I've read some summaries on Daily Wire, 31 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: which we'll get to you, uh momentarily, and I want 32 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: to talk to you about that. Also, I want to 33 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: talk about the M I. T shooter. They believe that 34 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: there may be a connection. They didn't think there was 35 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: a connection first. Honestly, I just think this has been 36 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: a complete disaster the way that these people have handled 37 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: things at Brown University, and actually that that includes Sadly, 38 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a sergeant or or captain. 39 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Uh right now, his name escapes me, so I'll have 40 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: to look at my phone and get his name. But 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a complete and utter disaster. Do 42 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: you how do you how do you feel like these 43 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: press conferences have that have been held? Doc? Do you 44 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: do you feel like they've been useful? And and again, audience, 45 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to doctor Curry Myers. Uh. He's America's leading 46 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: crime and a lot of criminologists. Make sure you get 47 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: a substack if you'll just share real quickly, Doc, where 48 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: people can go to find you. And I decided to 49 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: bring them back on because we're still dealing with this 50 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: nonsense at Brown University. We now have the I don't 51 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: know if it's an execution. I don't know if it 52 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: was a robbery this MIT professor, but this guy was 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe that this it's hard to believe 54 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: that that wasn't a planned assassin in my opinion, So 55 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to get Doc's opinion. I'm going to get 56 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: Doc's opinion on that. And we didn't get to finish 57 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: our conversation basically about these trans Tifa terrorists that were 58 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: discovered plotting an attack on New Year's Eve in LA 59 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: And I know you summarize that case pretty quickly the 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: last time we met up, Doc, but I want to 61 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: go through that a little more. But just give us 62 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: your take. I mean, am I I'm an outsider looking 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: in Doc, You've been in this position before, You've done 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: murder cases, You've i'm sure, been in front of the press. 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: And is it is it just me as an outsider 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: or or are these people, including the mayor, the president 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: at Brown University, the police captain, these people just seem 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: like they are out of their league. 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: Well, Carl, thanks so much for having me on. And 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: it's my substack is doctor Curry Meyers dot substack dot com. 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: People can view that or they can just google doctor 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Curry Myers. Everything will come up about my all my 73 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: published works and interviews. So thanks for having me on 74 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: as you probably as you know, i teach college in 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: criminology and I'm going to use the Brown case on 76 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: public information as a in my future classes. Is a 77 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: critique on what not to do. Huh uh. It is 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: too many people have been involved, and it's when you 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: have this, when you have as many jurisdictions is involved. 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: So you have the police department, you have the state patrol, 81 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: and then you have the college all involved, and then 82 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: for some reason, everybody feels like they've got to jump 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: to the podium to explain what's going on. There should 84 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: have been a unified command. Maybe there was behind the scenes, 85 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: but it doesn't appear to be that upfront. I'm sure 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: that the boots on the ground detectives are working very hard. 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: I'm not castigating their efforts. In fact, they're beginning to 88 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: track some people down apparently, but we don't have much information. 89 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: But from a public a PIO status, a public information's 90 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: officer point of view, this has been a very haphazard, 91 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: very sloppy case, and it's an absolute textbook case on 92 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: what not to do unified commands extremely important. That unified 93 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: command means one person, Carl. That means one person that 94 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: stands before the press and gives out updates, and generally 95 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: you should do that at least every other hour unless 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: there's something new, and if there isn't anything new, you 97 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: should be briefing people and say, I'm sorry, there isn't 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: anything new. We'll have another press release when we have 99 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: more information. But those updates should go out to the 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: press every other hour at least, and those things are 101 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: not going on at all the college. The person that 102 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: came to the podium with the glasses is a part 103 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: of the college, not even part of the college police department. 104 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: They're part of the college. He has absolutely no business 105 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: standing in front of the podium talking about how tired 106 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: everybody is and everybody needs just to calm down. And 107 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: then you get in disagreements with the press that's going 108 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 2: on during the during the the event, and you should 109 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: never be in a position where you should become, you know, 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: in a position where you're arguing and arguing with the press. 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: There has been a lack of information and the person 112 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: is just indicating that he is frustrated with the lack 113 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: of information, and he certainly has a point because we 114 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: all are frustrated with the lack of information. Listen, in 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: today's world, there are many people that can solve the 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: case if they're included in the information. And that includes 117 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: people on the internet. That includes people like you and 118 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: I that can put out information to people that follow 119 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: us that we can talk about opportunities, issues, problems that 120 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: might gain an advantage for them to find out who 121 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: they're chasing. So today's modern era, I know it's a 122 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: lot of chaos. There's people that say a lot of 123 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: things that they shouldn't, but there's also you can gain 124 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: and garnish a lot of information by allowing the public 125 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: to be to have access to information and be able 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: to be a boost on the ground and find these people, 127 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: because I would rather have millions of people watching and 128 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: see a car, hear a voice, and get information as 129 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: opposed to just only you know, only detectives. 130 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this this question, doctor, 131 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: And I've got to forgive me because I am forgetting 132 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: the name. I know his last name is peres Uh, 133 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: But forgive me. I'm trying to find the name of 134 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: the of the police officers the chief of police, of 135 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: chief of police. I believe, I think you're I think 136 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: you're right. I just want to make sure I find 137 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: his name and give him proper attribution. Let's see here, 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: basically you've had Okay, I'll go through. Okay, yes, Providence 139 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: police chief, Colonel Oscar Peres. Okay, so he is the 140 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: police chief. But I but one of the questions that 141 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: he was asked, I mean, this was just yesterday, and 142 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: obviously there's been some updates, so that is good news. 143 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: Apparently they have DNA evidence. Again, we'll talk about the 144 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: shooting of the MIT professor that I mean, that's just 145 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: absolutely insane. They now think there's a link. Word before 146 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: they said they didn't. But just yesterday I heard the 147 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: police chief being asked the question as to whether or 148 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: not he knew how many people were in the classroom, 149 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: if he had a list of the people that were 150 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: in the students that were in the in the classroom. 151 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he had none of that information. They were 152 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: still piecing it together. This was like day five, I 153 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: believe it was at the time, and I'm like, okay, 154 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: I've never been a I've never been a police officer. 155 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: I have been in jail. You know, I've been in 156 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: back of a patty wagon, and I'm sitting here thinking 157 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: that will probably be amongst the first questions I would ask, 158 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: what are the names? Give me a list who was 159 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: in the classroom. I mean, it's astonishing. And then I 160 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: find out that this guy apparently had a nephew that 161 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: was a FENTONL trafficker that's doing time. He also came 162 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: from this police chief I believe it was came from 163 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Columbia where he was let go there because he was incompetent, 164 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: and Brown University scoops the guy up. I mean, are 165 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: we just seeing a case of DEI hiring going wrong, 166 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: going deadly? Should I ask? 167 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: Well, gosh, I mean, that's amazing information. I would hope 168 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: that he is an American citizen. 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: So that's we'll find out. 170 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: I never know anymore, So that's that needs to be 171 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: looked at further. Of course, So there was a tactical 172 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: team that went in and cleared that facility, and did 173 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: so rather quickly after the shooting. Because I saw the tape, Yes, 174 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: because there was I mean there were camp there were 175 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: students with camera phones on the whole time, and so 176 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: there's enough information to know what was in the soon, 177 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: but as soon as the tactical team went in, the 178 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: next thing they have to do is just secure the 179 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: scene and not let anybody leave to conduct the interviews. 180 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that's basic one oh one law enforcement, regardless 181 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: of where you're at. So I can't believe the chief 182 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't know that. Maybe he just had a you know, 183 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: just wasn't thinking clearly. 184 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: But that's Doc. 185 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: Here's thing here is interview witnesses. 186 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: Let me interrupt for Jess for all right, we only 187 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: have twenty something seconds. Doc. I want you to hear 188 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: this and I want to get your response afterwards based 189 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: on what you just said. From what I understand of 190 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: the crime scene, the students that were needed to travel 191 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: back home were allowed to travel back home before they 192 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: conducted any interviews. 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Again, I'm joining with America's criminologist, doctor 219 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: Curry Myers, and guys, we're still talking about this Brown 220 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: University case because it is insane. And again we'll get 221 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: to the MIT shooting of the professor momentarily. That is 222 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: another crazy case. And now they do believe there's a 223 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: connection there. But this thing has just been I mean, 224 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: you heard you heard doctor Curry Myers say that in 225 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: his class he teaches college as well, he's going to 226 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: give them a lesson. Or did you say that offline? Doc? What? 227 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: Oh? I said it during that I said it during 228 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: the interview. Okay, it's going to be what not to 229 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: do on press conference is in law enforcement? 230 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So if it's true, and I mean from that's 231 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: what I read that they allowed the students that needed 232 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: to travel back home for the holidays to leave before 233 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: they could even get the interviews with these uh. With 234 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: these kids travel out of town. Uh. And now they're 235 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: left to or they're they're resorting to calling these kids, 236 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: identifying these kids, having phone conversations with them, as opposed 237 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: to I would I would expect that pretty much in 238 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: the heat of the moment. What did you see, you know, 239 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: after you secure the classroom, make sure everybody's safe, so on, 240 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: et cetera. And I mean, is that is that crazy? 241 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: I just this just seems insane to me. 242 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: No, it's not crazy, it's it's. 243 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 244 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: If I were the the homicide case manager for this 245 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: case and in charge of it, I would be I 246 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: don't have any hair left, so I can't say pulling up. 247 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: But there is no way in the world on a 248 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: double homicide mass shooting that I would let anybody go 249 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: home for school. Interviews have to be conducted about with 250 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: witnesses that are there. It's incredibly important information you have 251 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: to collect that interview. You've got to interview them separately. 252 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: You've got to make sure you get enough information, get 253 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: their name, phone number, get all the contact information. Because 254 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: I always recommend you never just interview someone once, especially 255 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: if they're a witness to a case. You interview them 256 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: multiple time because of potential of cognitive biases that occur. 257 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: So you want to make sure that their story is 258 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: correct from one moment to the next interview to the 259 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: next interview. It could take a series of a couple 260 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: of days to be able to have a couple interviews, 261 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: because you want to go back and see what they 262 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: actually have. There's important information. You certainly want the kids 263 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: to be able to go back home for Christmas. I'm 264 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: not saying that, but you have to get that information. 265 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: You got hold them until that information is is documented 266 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: and you're able to follow up with them, then you 267 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: can let them go. That's one of the most important 268 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: things you could do, because if you let if you 269 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: let the students go go back home, uh, then they 270 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: then they could start talking to people and then all 271 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: of a sudden, there's there's by there's serious biases that 272 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: occur in your investigation. If you try to interview them 273 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: the first time after they've spoken that spoken to people 274 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: that are that we're involved in the in the scene 275 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: they've had, there is way too much time for that 276 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: to or even their own families. There could be family 277 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: members that say don't talk to police. There's all kinds 278 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: of things that could occur, Carl that should have never 279 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: happened just because you have to take the time to 280 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: interview them and interview them correctly. I'm astonished by that. 281 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: This is this is law enforcement one oh one. It 282 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: is not difficult, but you have to have the patience, 283 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: certainly have to have the manpower. But this is what 284 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm talking about having by having a bifurcated or trifurcated 285 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: law enforcement investigation. And this is remember in the interview 286 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: last night, I talked about the importance of unified command 287 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: and for the primary police department to take over that 288 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: has jurisdiction in that and then everybody else is part 289 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: of that unified command. And that includes one PIO that's 290 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: under that unified command. And there's one person talking, not 291 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: five or six people who are standing in the background 292 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: of this interview process and this briefing who get to 293 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: come up and take, you know, take their shot at 294 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: whatever they may want to do. It makes it makes 295 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,239 Speaker 2: it confusing, and it makes it for people to understand 296 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: who's in control. And then you have people who aren't 297 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: even part of the investigation that just happened to be 298 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: part of the college. Let me give you an example. 299 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: Let's say this mass shooting occurred at a corporation. Would 300 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: you let the president or the vice president of that 301 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: corporation stand up and start briefing people in the in 302 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: the about the police shooting and the effects that are 303 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: going on. Now they they can do their own press 304 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: conference someplace else. Or give out information. I see, yeah, 305 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: but it certainly isn't a part of that. So it's 306 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: it's not the way to conduct yourself. And as a result, 307 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: what happens is people become unsure of the quality of 308 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: work that is being done. That makes sense because of 309 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: the lack of information. 310 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: And honestly, that makes sense because if you go back 311 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: to the interview I believe we played it in the 312 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: earlier recording that we did podcast that we did earlier 313 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: this week of the Brown University president, she was absolutely 314 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: clueless and based upon I'm sitting there, she's sitting at 315 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: the podum podium, she has no answers whatsoever. She didn't 316 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: even know what last was going on at the time. 317 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just insane. And I'm sitting there thinking, Okay, 318 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: have the cops not informed her of what's going on? 319 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: What happens? So you're right, I mean, that makes total 320 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: sense to me, And. 321 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: That's the importance right there, Carl is a perfect example 322 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: of not putting the president of the college in a 323 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: position where they have to look like that. Yeah, yeah, 324 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: someone has to you know, the law enforcement should have said, 325 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: you guys, don't get involved in that part of it. 326 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: Let us take care of it. Let us answer the 327 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: questions and give the briefing. That's what we're here to do. Yeah, 328 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: if I want to talk later on, then you can 329 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: talk later on. But they don't need to get involved 330 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: to the level that they've gotten involved in this investigation. 331 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: And it makes people concerned now with respect to the investigation. 332 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: If they are getting leads and they're starting to getting 333 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: they've gotten quality physical evidence at the crime scene, which 334 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: it sounds like they have excellent work. That means they've 335 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: done a crime scene investigation. They've been able to collect 336 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: the kind of evidence that is necessary, and they're able. 337 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that can be done, and 338 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: the most important part is that footprints in the fingerprints 339 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: of technology. 340 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: Well, let me let me just read some of this. 341 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: Let me read some of this real quick here verbatim 342 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: from the Daily Wire. They posted investigators in Providence, Rhode Island, 343 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: recovered physical evidence, including live ammunition and DNA from the 344 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: scene of the mass shooting at Brown University where the 345 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: two students were killed. The police chief, Colonel Oscar Perez, 346 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: confirmed that investigators are blank in the process of examining 347 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: that evidence, and yes, we have some DNA that we manipulated, 348 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: and so it just progresses every day. The development marks 349 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: a major step obviously in in this particular case. There's 350 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: also there's also more let me, let me, let me. 351 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: Uh if I can find this, forgive me, guys, I'm 352 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: literally scrolling, okay. And also now they have another link. Uh. 353 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: And and I do believe this is this is this 354 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: is something else that that we spoke of briefly in 355 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: the last podcast talking and and you mentioned that that 356 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: there's a connection. There seems to be a connection with 357 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of these cases. One thing that I've not 358 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: mentioned yet is that the students reported, some of the 359 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: students that were interviewed and they interviewed with other people 360 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: that they did hear the shooter. Remember we were talking 361 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: about this last time. They did hear the shooter clearly 362 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: say alahu akbar, the the the the chief of police Providence, 363 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Rhode Island refuse to answer that question. The mayor, the 364 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: the the the the the state's attorney or whatever that was, 365 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: all of them, every single one of them at the 366 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: podium refused to answer. Uh. That that particular information. That's 367 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: a I mean, that's a big if that's true, right, 368 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean that shows the connection. The m I T 369 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: shooter will get to that momentarily. These trans Tifa people, 370 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: all of these people, there's either a strand of anti Semitism, 371 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: there's a strand of jihadism. I think this is extremely important. 372 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: Why would you not answer that question that makes no 373 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: sense to me? 374 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: That, well, it makes sense only because you're being politically 375 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: correct with the results, and that this is the problem 376 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: when we rely on political correctness and law enforcement were lost. 377 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: It's a lost cause. Law enforcement is there to give 378 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: the facts and let it be known to the public 379 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: what is going on so they can make determinations and 380 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: see how they can provide information back to the police. 381 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: This is extremely important. And again when you talk about 382 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: biases that occur with witnesses, there's many times people can 383 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: have a different view of somebody. They can have different 384 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: heights when they get interviewed, they can have a different 385 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 2: skin color, But when it comes to voice, that stands 386 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: out and generally they don't have the same cognitive biases. 387 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: That's been done in research papers that people see things 388 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: and can have biases, but when they hear things, it's 389 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: a different it's different and it stands out and people 390 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: don't have those biases. I'm don't understand why we don't 391 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: have why we have live rounds live? If live rounds 392 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: were found, that means that a live round got kicked 393 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: out for some reason, or they had a stove pipe 394 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: that they had to fix the shooter, or that they 395 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: dropped live rounds, or they dropped a magazine that have 396 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: live round in it. That doesn't make sense to me 397 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: why live rounds were found at the scene. And there 398 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: would be lounds that have been rounds that have been expended, 399 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: of course, but that's good because we can find information 400 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: and there's certain fit prints that would be on weapons 401 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: based on on the type of rounds that have been fired. 402 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so when we get back, let's talk about this 403 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: m I T professor and these trans tifer radicals in 404 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles that were toward it. All right, welcome back 405 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: to the show again. I'm speaking with my guest, doctor 406 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: Curry Myers, America's leading criminologist. Make sure you find them 407 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: at substack. What is it again, doc? Excuse me? 408 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: Yep, Doctor Curry Myers dot substack. 409 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: Dot com dot com. Okay, doctor Curry Myers dot substact 410 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: dot com. C U R. R. I E M Y 411 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: E R s okay, So there was a connection. I 412 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: want to make sure that we get to this Turtle 413 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: Island liberation front as well, because we left off on that. 414 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: But before we go there, let's just stick to this 415 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: real quick. Brown University, Uh, there, there appears to be 416 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: a connection with the M I T. The shooting of 417 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: an M I T professor that occurred. An MIT nuclear 418 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: science professor was found shot dead in his home in 419 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: a pretty well to do, Massachusetts neighborhood. Now, the rumors 420 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: were that this professor was nun Lerero was Jewish, but 421 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: apparently he was from Brazil, and I believe he was Catholic, 422 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: the reports are. But nonetheless he was a prominent MIT 423 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: nuclear science professor again shot and killed inside of his home. 424 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: And now they believe that there might be a connection 425 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: between the shooting at Brown University and MIT because because 426 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: you may recall doctor the classroom that was shot up 427 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: at Brown University, there was a Jewish professor. She happened 428 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: to not be there that day. I forget what she 429 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: was teaching, but she it had to do if I'm 430 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: not mistaken, with Jewish studies of some sort. And so 431 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: she wasn't there that particular day. But but you have 432 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: that connection that could just be circumstanced. I just doubt it. 433 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: And then you have this n I T. Professor, And 434 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of all the things that that are going 435 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: on from I mean, obviously we we we bombed i Ran. 436 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: You've seen the our soldiers sadly to National guardsmen from 437 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: Iowa that were shot and killed in Syria. I mean, 438 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: I just believe there's a war perhaps that's taken place 439 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: that maybe we don't want to talk about, or maybe 440 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: I'm stretching it, but but this is this is crazy. 441 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: Apparently apparently a vehicle that was at Brown University matches 442 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: a vehicle that that a witness said they saw leaving 443 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: the scene from the M I. T. Professor's house. So 444 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: apparently that's the connection. And so they're looking for an 445 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: individual they believe they have they have a suspect in mind, 446 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: I should say in New Hampshire. They refuse to say 447 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: the suspect's name, which is this is just me, which 448 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: leads me to believe it's probably I probably shouldn't say 449 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: this what I am at, which leads me to believe 450 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: that it's an Islamic name, because why else wouldn't you 451 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: say the name. I guarantee you if it was Bob, 452 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: or even if it was you know, Tyrone or Ricky, 453 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: you'd say the name. It just doesn't make sense to me. 454 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: But just just give us. Give us your take on 455 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: the MI I T professor. What you may know about this? 456 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: Could you see a connection? What do you think? What 457 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? 458 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: Well, it's a connection, certainly if if the target was 459 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: the Jewish professor at Brown University and she just happened 460 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: to not be in class that day, it's a If 461 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: one is casing the locations for shootings, which casing means 462 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: doing surveillance in advance of the event that you're going 463 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: to do, and it sounds like they may have, then 464 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: you would notice that that particular professor, you would look 465 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: them up. You might know that they were Jewish because 466 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: they may celebrate certain things or talk about certain things 467 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: on Jewish events, so they would know. It would be 468 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: in why you would attack a school in a classroom 469 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: and then pick the MI T out professor out, not 470 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: at school but in their home. That's a little bit 471 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: different methodology. So that would make me wonder why it 472 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: was done at home. As opposed to at school it 473 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: maybe we'd have to check to see if MIT may 474 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: be done already. Some schools have already you know, concluded 475 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: their classrooms and they're just into finals, and some colleges 476 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: are even done with their finals. So I don't know 477 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: what MIT's current situation is on all of that, but 478 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: that is certainly interesting. If they have that information and 479 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: they need to they believe they have a suspect because 480 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: of evidence, uh, then a suspect's name would help help again, 481 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: would once again be where the public could help find 482 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: that person. Put the description of the car out, put 483 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: the description of the individual that's associated with that car. Uh. 484 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: Put the information that you have. Now, if they think 485 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: they have the person and then they don't need that 486 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: and they're surveilling that surveilling that person, that would be different. 487 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: But it kind of goes back to this lack of information. 488 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: If you have the lack of information and chaos and 489 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: your briefings from the beginning, then you've already lost the 490 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: tactical advantage with the fact that the public is not 491 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: going to view you as knowing what you're doing, and 492 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: it's going to be constantly wondering what is going on 493 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: and they're going to be again in the back of 494 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: their mind, going to be going everything adds up, and 495 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: it's going to be a snowball effect that you're not 496 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: doing things correctly, even though they may be. 497 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just some of the things that you mentioned. 498 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: And again I almost feel like, I almost feel like 499 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm being so speculative, but I'm not. I'm just going 500 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: based off of what I read. But it's obvious that 501 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: their investigation and their information, their communication has been so lackluster. 502 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is where conspiracy theories pop out, and 503 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I try not to go that route, but I simply 504 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: cannot believe what I'm seeing. And I even question, Okay, 505 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: there's a there's a connection, but and then, you know, 506 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: I listened to you, maybe there is, but and then 507 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: just simple things. Okay, well he was shot in his home, 508 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: and again we don't know the circumstances. Maybe MIT was out, 509 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, out of school. Maybe they weren't. This person 510 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: was was possibly you know, they were casing the Brown University, 511 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: perhaps as to to make sure that this professor was 512 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: a target. But it's like, okay, that's a good question. 513 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Why was one done at home as opposed to you 514 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: know who knows, but it just makes me question everything. 515 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: Now I'm like, well, is there a connection? So let 516 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: me at least read what Daily Wire has. Police are 517 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: investigating a potential connection between the Saturday shooting at Brown 518 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: University and the Monday killing of an MIT professor in 519 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: his home, based on information that has emerged in the 520 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: last twenty four hours, multiple people familiar with the investigation 521 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: told several outlets. Federal, state, and local authorities are now 522 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: examining evidence that the two crimes, which took place less 523 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: than fifty miles apart, may be links, marking a significant 524 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: shift in the investigation. Obviously, you have the violence that 525 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: took place at Brown University on Saturday, where Ella Cook died, 526 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: and so that Mackhammett I'm going to butcher his name, 527 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: So the Muslim young man and nine others were injured. 528 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: Forty hours later, you had an assailant shot this MIT 529 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: Professornon olearero multiple times inside of Brooklyn, Massachusetts. Authorities have 530 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: yet to identify the suspects, but the authorities are The 531 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: authorities initially said there seemed to be no connection between 532 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: the students, but now Providence police and the FBI have 533 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: steadily released images and video depicting two persons of interest walking. Okay, 534 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now they're saying there is a connection. I 535 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of messed up with the reading there, but now 536 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: there is a connections and it's it's basically with a car. 537 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: Basically they saw the same car at Brown University that 538 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: they believe is connected to a car that took off 539 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: at the that the the the the professor's house from 540 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: m I T but I'm like, I want to believe 541 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: this is solid. I I just don't know, and this 542 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: is obviously this wouldn't be Daily Wires fault. I'm just like, 543 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: we're going based upon what the people in the police 544 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: chief is telling us. I guess, and I just don't 545 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: know what to believe. I really feel sorry for the victims' 546 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: families because I just believe that this this young lady 547 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: that was uh, that was murdered Ella cook uh. And 548 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: also this young man happened to be Muslim uh but 549 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: on his way to be a neurosurgeon. I feel so 550 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: sorry for the families. Uh. On top of the killings 551 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: that they have to deal with incompetent boobs uh that 552 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: they're that they're dealing with in this investigation. 553 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when where where are where are the 554 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: m I T. Breeds things that are going on that 555 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: show a comparison as well. It's not just why is 556 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: Brown University and Providence also given us information whereas the 557 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: MIT whoever, I don't know in Massachusetts what jurisdiction that 558 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: MIT is located, but there should be that department that's 559 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: giving us briefing and being able to tell us if 560 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: there's something that's linked as well for the MIT case, 561 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: if it's a murder inside a home. Listen, people get 562 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: killed for jealousy, they get killed out of anger, they 563 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: get killed out of sex, they get killed out of money. 564 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: Those are the reasons people kill each other. And then 565 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: at the bottom of that wrong is assassinations. That's they're 566 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: not common, but they do happen, and there's different reason 567 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: for assassinations of course, and so if it is an assassination, 568 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: that means it had to be planned out, because someone 569 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: isn't just going to randomly go to an MIT professor's home. 570 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: They have they would have had to been researched. There's 571 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: going to be a digital footprint on getting that information. 572 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: There's going to be a digital foot if it was 573 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: an assassination and planned at the Brown case, there's going 574 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: to be a digital footprint that's associated with that information, 575 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: something on social media, something that was in a chat room. 576 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: All these things. We haven't seen the FBI or atf 577 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: at any of these briefings. That concerns me that they 578 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: should be there to be able to give their experiences. 579 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: And quite frankly, the way it's running, I would have 580 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: turned it over to the to the FBI and let 581 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: them take over doing the PIO work. And I haven't 582 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: seen any FBI people that have come come to the post. 583 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: I might be wrong, maybe they have, but I haven't seen. 584 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: I haven't seen seen them come to the podium. Doc 585 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: and and if we could, I'd like to carry you 586 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: for another segment. I haven't seen them come to the podium. 587 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: And frankly, what I have seen has kind of been embarrassing. 588 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: It's like the FBI has had to go behind these 589 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: people and try to literally scoots snow out the way 590 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: to see if they could get any type of footprint. 591 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just insane some of the videos that 592 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: I'm seeing. And I don't necessarily blame the FBI, it 593 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: just seems crazy that they would have to scoop to 594 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: such pettiness because these people at Brown University are so incompetent. 595 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: One last segment with doctor Curry Myers when we return. Okay, so, Doc, 596 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: we've spoken about Brown University. I pray to God that 597 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: I pray to God that these leads are serious, uh, 598 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: and that they will find this perpetrator or perpetrators because 599 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: and I realized that you I've heard plenty of people 600 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: mention other cases. Obviously what happened in Idaho. It's the 601 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: first time that I met you, Doc, when we talked 602 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: about that particular case, and you know that was a 603 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: hard one to figure out, and that that that took 604 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: six weeks. And and I forget the other case that 605 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about and it took 606 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: five or so or six days or whatever it may be. 607 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: And forgive me, I forget that particular case right now. 608 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: But I'm like, regardless of how long those took, I 609 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: never got the sense that the people were completely over 610 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: their heads. I just I mean, maybe in Idaho at 611 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: one point, I'm thinking that did they have enough resources 612 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: to be able to you know, that may have gone 613 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: through my head. I think I recalled maybe even saying 614 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: something to that effect that I don't even remember for sure, 615 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: But I never felt like they were just a bunch 616 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: of incompetent booths that were that were investigating. And that's 617 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: the way that I feel with this situation. I hope, 618 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: I hope that I'm wrong, and I'm willing to apologize 619 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: to the chief and everybody else the staff, but it 620 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: just doesn't it just doesn't seem like it. And then 621 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: you get these connections. You mentioned something offline, doc, if 622 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: you don't mind mentioning that, because I found that interesting, 623 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yeah, duh. I mean, obviously we're 624 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: seeing a rise in anti Semitism, we're seeing a rise 625 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: in jihadism, in my opinion, globaliza, anti Fata, so on, etc. 626 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: Right here in the United States and around the globe. 627 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: Are people working together. 628 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 2: I mean, well, it's honika, that's one thing. But remember 629 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: that people like you and I don't have access and 630 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: don't visit the dark web. I know the dark web exists, 631 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: I don't know how to get there. There are people 632 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: that know how to get there and that can start 633 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: chat rooms and the old patent adage and enemy of 634 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: my enemy as my friends, so that means that different groups, 635 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 2: if they all all are free Palestine, you wouldn't think 636 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: the Turtle Island trans anarchists would be associated with the 637 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: ideal Islamic terrorism. But the enemy of my enemy is 638 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 2: my friend, and as a result they begin to act together. 639 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: But they're often are often given some information in the 640 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: dark web through chat rooms on things to do, things 641 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: to consider. Remember on the FBI case in Los Angeles, 642 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: they found out about them and through an informant and 643 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: then an undercover agent was able to get into the investigation. 644 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: But it started in chat rooms where they were sharing 645 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: information on how they can conceal, the making of bomb equipment, 646 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: what kind of chemicals can be used to make certain 647 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: types of explosives, and all of that was determined on 648 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 2: the chat and that the digital information is what the 649 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: FBI developed into the case where they were able to 650 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: get even surveillance done in aerial surveillance and drone surveillance, 651 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: and they were able to see exactly the location that 652 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: they were building the bombs out in the middle of 653 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: the desert. As a result of all that digital footprint 654 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: and information and so many people, potentially this shooter as well, 655 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: potentially the shooters in Australia have considerable information that they 656 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: can seek out on what to do, how to do it, 657 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: things that they should consider, locations that should be considered, 658 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 2: organizations that should be considered, and people can choose those 659 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: and pick them out. And that's the danger of social media, 660 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 2: and that's the danger of the Internet and the cognitive 661 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: biases that can occur. We live in a current state 662 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: of anarchy where anarchy is in vogue by leftists. If 663 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: you're a member of a leftist organization, if you're a 664 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: member of an anarchist organization, if you're a member of 665 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: a cult for the leftists, you are in vogue and 666 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 2: you want to be a part of that in order 667 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: to gain notoriety and feel like you're a member of 668 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: something and serving something greater than yourself. It's replaced religion. 669 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: It's replaced faith. If you don't have faith life, then 670 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 2: you need to replace it with something else. And this 671 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: is the dark side of it. This is where the 672 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: dark tetrads and the dark psychological traits begin to appear, 673 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 2: and that it leads us into this kind of chaos. 674 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 2: And again people are who want to see harm come 675 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: to this country and other people across the world, and 676 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 2: especially different races. Then they're happy about it, and we 677 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: have to wake up. We can't be the kind of 678 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 2: person that sits there and says, well, if it's not 679 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: happening to me, it's not happening, and I don't need 680 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: to worry about it, because at some point, before you 681 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 2: know it, it's happening to you. 682 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Doc, I gotta be honest. I just I hate 683 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: to be a Debbie Downer. I don't see how this 684 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: doesn't get worse. I mean, we've got so many terrorists, frankly, 685 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: that have been let into this country under the Biden administration, 686 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: and then you have so many kids like I mean 687 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: this Turtle Island Liberation Front, which thank god the FBI 688 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: were able to thwart the you know, they they're bombing 689 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: or they plan to bomb parts of l A I 690 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: guess on New Year's Eve. Or they had multiple targets 691 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: in California beginning on New Year's Eve. And they were 692 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: far left as you mentioned, uh, anti government, you know, anarchists, 693 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: anti capitalists, pro Palestinian. I mean, this is this is 694 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: the weirdest thing to me, And this is it's like 695 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: I almost feel like you. I think you probably hit 696 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: the nail spot on. I wonder if there is some 697 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: type of dark web link where these people are going 698 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: to get brainwashed and you know where where literally these 699 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 1: people are becoming killers, They're being groomed to become killers, 700 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: and I wonder who's doing it. It doesn't make sense 701 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: to me that these groups all of a sudden, not 702 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, but obviously COVID lockdowns. It seems 703 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: like this stuff has just grown exponentially, are just popping 704 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: up and every single one of them. They can't just 705 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: be anarchists. They have to be anti Semitic, like. That 706 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me unless there's something happening online 707 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: that's we're just we're just not catching. 708 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you have people of political weight and 709 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 2: potentially college administrators too, that have accepted it and said 710 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: it's okay. They're not saying it's okay directly, but they're 711 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: allowing the it to foment and not kicking people out 712 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: of school and not seeking punished for people who are 713 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: speaking the kind of words that they're speaking and it's allowed. 714 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 2: And when things are allowed and tolerated, you better hold on. 715 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: I think we're getting some breaking news. 716 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 2: It's on. It's going to get work. 717 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,959 Speaker 1: I think we're getting some breaking news. Doc. I'm I'm 718 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: hearing that this suspect may be dead. I want to 719 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 1: try and confirm this. Uh the suspect of the Brown 720 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: University shooting has officially been found dead from self inflicted 721 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: gunshot wound at a New Hampshire storage facility. Uh So 722 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 1: this is just coming in. This is breaking on Fox 723 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: News on raws Raw's alert. Uh So, I want to 724 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: I want to be happy about that, doc, But I 725 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of questions that that that I that 726 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to to see answered. 727 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: Sil Well, the guy had a storage facilit in New Hampshire. 728 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: If that doesn't reek of planned attacks, I you know, 729 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: you don't. I don't know about you, Carl Jackson or me. 730 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: I don't have a storage shed in New Hampshire. I 731 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 2: don't have it. Now. I'm in the Midwest, but I 732 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: don't have a storage shed in Nebraska or Iowa or Oklahoma. Yeah, 733 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 2: you know, so this reeks of planned event. It tells 734 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: us that there's going to be information in that storage 735 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: shed that's going to shed more light on this. And 736 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 2: it wasn't just some student that went nuts. It was 737 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 2: a planned event and we'll see what the information is 738 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: going to be as it unfolds. But plans event planned 739 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 2: event means that it generally has an agenda. The person 740 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 2: had an agenda, And think about what's the most common 741 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 2: agendas today. 742 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: Is this a case where the FBI can and now 743 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: say hey, we're we're going to take the lead on 744 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: this thing. I mean, obviously you're talking about a different 745 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: state now at this point, is that or does it 746 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: or the New Hampshire Police is it still a local 747 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: matter for them as well? I mean, because I just 748 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: want the FBI to take over this case, to be honest. 749 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, all every agency, every jurisdiction is responsible 750 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 2: for their state. But as soon as the cross borders, 751 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 2: as soon as the MIT case was mentioned, that's when 752 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: the FBI should have taken over this case. And they 753 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 2: probably I hope that they did, but certainly that it's 754 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: in New Hampshire, I just think the FBI is in 755 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: a position where they can do a much better job 756 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 2: than the public information that's being given out. And I'm positive, 757 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm positive Carl, that now that this has been found 758 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 2: in New Hampshire, that the FBI is going to take 759 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: over the case and start doing the vast majority of 760 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: the public information that's going to go out for it. 761 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: If they don't, then, you know, shame on those local jurisdictions. 762 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: Doc, I got to tell you, I think you need 763 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: to go and make a buttload of money going to 764 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: places like Brown University telling these people how how to 765 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: properly conduct investigations and interviews as well. Good Lord, go 766 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: to liberal places and just say I can really help 767 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: you out, because what we've witnessed is said, I'm glad 768 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: this guy is dead, but I want some answers. Doctor 769 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: Curry Myers, thank you again for joining us. I really 770 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: really appreciate you.