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Speaker 1: Major developments in the war. Two top Iranian officials are

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Speaker 1: dead in overnight air strikes. We have the details. Plus

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Speaker 1: we have some new sound from Secretary of State Marco

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Speaker 1: Rubio on the overall war effort, Vice President Vance, tackling

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Speaker 1: fraud in America and why did Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer

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Speaker 1: veto and Education Bill will this hour. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: March the seventeenth. This is Scott Jennings reporting for Salem.

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Speaker 1: We have a great lineup on the show today. My

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Speaker 1: CNN colleague, my friend David Axelrod, will come along in

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Speaker 1: the second hour to talk politics. And we have TV

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Speaker 1: reporter Nick Minnick here later this hour to talk about

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Speaker 1: the sanctuary policies that are terrorizing people in northern Virginia.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with the news while you slept. Israel

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Speaker 1: says it carried out a precision strike inside of Iran,

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Speaker 1: as a commander of a paramilitary force that helps enforce

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Speaker 1: regime control. Israeli officials say the operation was based on

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Speaker 1: high level intelligence and it is a deliberate targeting of

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Speaker 1: Iran's leadership structure. Here is the Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon

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Speaker 1: sar in cut number nine.

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Speaker 3: Lara Jinnie was also on the US sanctions for the

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Speaker 3: same reason, with a ten million dollar price on his head.

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Speaker 4: Wait did it for free?

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Speaker 5: Anyhow?

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Speaker 1: This is part of a broader pattern in this war

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Speaker 1: operation epic Fury, and Israel is now increasingly focusing not

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Speaker 1: just on military assets, but on people who plan and

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Speaker 1: sustain the regime's power.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: US Secretary of State Marco Rubio made some comments on

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Speaker 1: the war effort last night on Fox News. Imminent threat,

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Speaker 1: you bet, Rubio says, and cut number six.

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Speaker 7: Ultimately, all radical Islamic movements in the war world identify

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Speaker 7: the West writ large, but the United States in particular,

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Speaker 7: as the greatest evil on the earth. And every chance

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Speaker 7: to have the notion that somehow Radical Islam would be

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Speaker 7: comfortable with simply controlling some province in Iraq or Syria

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Speaker 7: is just not borne out by history. Radical Islam has

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Speaker 7: shown that their desire is not simply to occupy one

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Speaker 7: part of the world and be happy with their own

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Speaker 7: little caliphate. They want to expand. It is a revolutionary

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Speaker 7: in its nature. It seeks to expand and control more

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Speaker 7: territories and more people. And Radical Islam has designs openly

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Speaker 7: on the West, on the United States, on Europe. We've

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Speaker 7: seen that progress there as well, and they are prepared

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Speaker 7: nation state actions, assassinations, murderers, you name it, whatever it

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Speaker 7: takes for them to gain their influence and ultimately their

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Speaker 7: domination of different cultures and societies. That's a clear and

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Speaker 7: imminent threat to the world and to the broader West.

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Speaker 1: Marco Rubio talking last night about the war. Now, we're

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Speaker 1: still watching the Strait of Hormone moose situation. Germany and

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Speaker 1: reopen passage through the strait. Britain and France agreed to

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Speaker 1: conditional involvement. President Trump talked a little bit about France

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Speaker 1: yesterday and it's President Macron, let's hear that and cut

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Speaker 8: Have you been speaking with the French President macroon about

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Speaker 8: the coalition to reopen the Strait of Hormus?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have smogli.

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Speaker 3: He's been on a scale of zero to ten.

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Speaker 5: I'd say he's been an aid. Not perfect, but it's France.

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Speaker 5: Are you que you can expect perfect?

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Speaker 8: Are you confident that friends will help with the reopening

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I've been sure he's gonna I think he's gonna help.

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Speaker 1: Coming up later in the show, we look at whether

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Speaker 1: the war effort has affected the president's political standing. Is

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Speaker 1: polling inside the Republican Party. Now closer to home. Communist

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Speaker 1: Cuba is laboring under the strain of American pressure and

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Speaker 1: here's the broader goal from the Trump administration to put

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Speaker 1: maximum pressure on the regime and force real change on

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Speaker 1: a government that answers to the Cuban people, not the

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Speaker 1: is under strain and the pressure is building. Rubio said

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Speaker 1: and yesterday Vice President Vance appeared alongside the President for

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Speaker 1: the signing of an executive order to set up Trump's

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Speaker 1: Anti Fraud Task Force. This promise was made in the

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Speaker 1: State of the Union. Here's Vance in cut number twelve.

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Speaker 10: This is one of the reasons why DJ is such

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Speaker 10: an important part of this is because we have to

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Speaker 10: make sure that where we see criminal conduct, we actually

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Speaker 10: prosecute it. And the President's talked about this a lot

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Speaker 10: in the past.

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Speaker 5: I don't need to repeat it, but if.

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Speaker 10: It's worth noting that so many times when we find people.

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Speaker 10: Bad conduct, you know, the local judge or the local

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Speaker 5: To stop it. One of the cool things about.

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Speaker 10: What we're doing is we're trying to take some steps

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Speaker 10: to ensure that when we find cruinal fraud, we can

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Speaker 1: As they stay back home. Vance will have more than

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Speaker 1: he can say, grace over with this anti fraud assignment. Now,

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Speaker 1: the GAO, the Government Accountability Office, says there's hundreds of billions,

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Speaker 1: maybe a trillion dollars in fraud out there, comes right

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Speaker 1: out of your pocket. Pakistan and Afghanistan are fighting, by

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Speaker 1: On Tuesday, the Taliban, now remember they run Afghanistan. Now

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Speaker 1: You're listening to common sense for the American people. This

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Speaker 1: is Scott Jennings on Salem. We do have this just

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Speaker 1: end to the Scott Jennings show. President Trump taking questions

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Speaker 1: President actually just made some comments about the airstrikes overnight

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Speaker 3: Top person, they say, a lot of people say their

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Speaker 3: It's an evil group. I mean, they've killed much more

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Speaker 1: Tuesday, March the seventeenth, Common Sense for the American People.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Governor Andy Vasher is often talked about as a

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Federation for Org or go to Federal Scholarships dot com.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's really no good reason to keep this closed.

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Speaker 1: The stated reason for the jockeying here is that Democrats

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Speaker 1: would like to have some changes in ICE immigration enforcement policy.

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Speaker 1: Of course, some changes have already happened. Christy Noam has resigned,

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Speaker 1: and some other things have happened. In fact, Mark Wayne Mullen,

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Speaker 1: I believe this week will be up on the Hill

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Speaker 1: for his confirmation hearings. But ICE is funded until twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, So keeping the Department of Homeland Security closed

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Speaker 1: right now does nothing about current ICE funding. But as

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Speaker 1: I said, you're going to see everyday impacts of this increasing.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to the TSA Deputy administrator. This is a

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Speaker 1: federal official named Adam Stall. Not only not only are

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Speaker 1: you going to see increasingly long lines at American airports,

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Speaker 1: but it may get worse, much much worse. Let's listen

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Speaker 1: to him and cut number fourteen.

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Speaker 14: We're doing absolutely everything we can. We have a natural

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Speaker 14: deployment Office force and we've fully depleted that. So at

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Speaker 14: this point we're fully stretched, and so frankly, there's not

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Speaker 14: much else we can do as the weeks continue. If

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Speaker 14: this continues, it's not hyperbole to suggest that we may

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Speaker 14: have to quite literally shut down airports, particularly smaller ones,

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Speaker 14: if call out rates go up and we can't A

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Speaker 14: lot of these officers can't afford to come in.

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Speaker 5: I talked to one officer this week.

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Speaker 14: She's a single mother and she has a special needs child,

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Speaker 14: and she can't afford to pay for special needs child childcare.

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Speaker 14: So again, were I believe it's frankly unconscionable that we

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Speaker 14: have set the Democrats that are playing, you know, they're

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Speaker 14: holding our folks financial livelihood hostage over political games, political partnersanship.

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Speaker 14: So we really need to get back to normal order.

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Speaker 1: So instead of just having long lines, we are now

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Speaker 1: looking at the possibility of American airports that may be closing.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at a breaking report just coming in here

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Speaker 1: from CNN. It looks like they are at Hartsfield Jackson

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Speaker 1: Airport that's in Atlanta, and the reporter says the tears

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Speaker 1: have been flowing from all sorts of people. The chaos

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Speaker 1: is described as worse than even Thanksgiving or Christmas. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of chaos, a lot of chaos at the

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Speaker 1: airports right now thanks to the DHS shutdown. Another situation

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Speaker 1: that is breaking today, there is a White House official

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Speaker 1: that is resigning his position today. His name is Joe Kent.

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Speaker 1: Joe Kent was in the office of the Director of

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Speaker 1: National Intelligence OD and I this is Tulcy Gabbard's office

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Speaker 1: in the White House. And he was director of the

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Speaker 1: National counter Terrorism Center. And he has sent a letter

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Speaker 1: the public resigning his position today. He says that he

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Speaker 1: cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran.

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Speaker 1: He rants about it, He complains about Israel. He then

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Speaker 1: makes a swipe at Israel and claims that they are

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Speaker 1: the reason we got into the Iraq war. Back in

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Speaker 1: the bush hears, of course, that is a well known

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Speaker 1: and debunked myth. Israel actually warned the United States not

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Speaker 1: to attack Iraq. The United States did it anyway. But

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Speaker 1: you have this man from Washington State originally named Joe Kent.

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Speaker 1: He is described by the way by Taylor Bodowich. Taylor

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Speaker 1: House Communications Advisor. He left a few weeks ago, but

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Speaker 1: up on getting this public letter from Joe Kent. Taylor

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Speaker 1: Buodowich said, and I quote, Joe Kent is a crazed

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Speaker 1: egomaniac who was often at the center of national security leaks,

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Speaker 1: while rarely or never producing any actual work. He spent

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Speaker 1: all of his time working to subvert the chain of

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Speaker 1: command and undermine the President of the United States. This

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Speaker 1: isn't some principled resignation. He just wanted to make a

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Speaker 1: splash before getting canned. What a loser. Now here's what

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Speaker 1: I think. Number one, I agree that if someone was leaking,

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Speaker 1: not producing any work, and subverting the chain of command

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Speaker 1: from inside the White House, they definitely deserve to be fired.

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Speaker 1: Why wasn't this person already fired? If we knew about

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Speaker 1: that for weeks or months, Why wasn't the person already

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Speaker 1: relieved of duty? That's number one. Number two, I wonder

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Speaker 1: why Joe Kent was hired in the first place. He's

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Speaker 1: not known necessarily as someone that would have been additive,

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Speaker 1: I think to the president's national security team. Now, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of information about Joe Kent out here that

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Speaker 1: he was months ago cut out of important meetings. He

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Speaker 1: was not part of any Iran war planning. So you

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Speaker 1: had someone here that you already didn't trust, that had

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Speaker 1: already been cut out of serious issues, with a big

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Speaker 1: title director of the National counter Terrorism Center, but yet

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Speaker 1: still got to go to the White House every day

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Speaker 1: and do his job. And so while I generally think

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Speaker 1: the pushback on Joe Kent here is probably true, it

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Speaker 1: does make me wonder why did they hire Joe Kent

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Speaker 1: in the first place, and why was he left in

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Speaker 1: his position for so long. I'll read you a report

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Speaker 1: from Jackie Heinrich, who is a White House reporter with

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Speaker 1: Fox News. She says a senior administration official says Joe

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Speaker 1: Kent was a known leaker and was cut out of

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Speaker 1: the President's intelligence briefings months ago. So you have the

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Speaker 1: person who holding the title of director of the counter

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem great. Heinrich says that the senior administration official

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Speaker 1: says Kent has not been part of any Iran planning

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Speaker 1: discussions or briefings at all. This official and this is interesting,

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Speaker 1: also said that the White House told Tulci Gabbard that

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Speaker 1: Joe Kent should be fired for suspected leaks, but that

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Speaker 1: she never did it. So a picture is emerging here

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Speaker 1: of someone who was given a job that they probably

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Speaker 1: should have never had, who immediately went to work in

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Speaker 1: that job, subverting the chain of command, meaning subverting the

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Speaker 1: elected commander in chief of the United States, who was

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Speaker 1: leaking to the press, who was cut out of any

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Speaker 1: and able to resign and try to embarrass the president

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Speaker 1: You should remember, by the way, Joe Kent ran for

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Speaker 1: Congress in Washington State. He actually won a Republican primary

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Speaker 1: and then turned a red seat over to the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party a couple of cycles ago before getting this opportunity

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Speaker 1: from Donald Trump. So if you're keeping track on your

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Speaker 1: Republican scorecard for Joe ken it's turn a seat over

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Speaker 1: the Democrats get a second chance by getting appointed by

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Speaker 1: the president to something important, then try to embarrass Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump with your anti Israel conspiracy theories on the way

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Speaker 1: out the door. This is really a sad and troubling situation.

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Speaker 1: But even though he has been attacked actually in the

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Speaker 1: democratic mainstream media in the past, I'm sure he'll now

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Speaker 1: be treated as a voice of conscience, a voice of reason,

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Speaker 1: even though they whooped up on him pretty good, not

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Speaker 1: Rounding out the first hour, we ask a simple question today,

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Speaker 1: what in the world is going on in Fairfax County

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Speaker 1: in Northern Virginia. The Board of Supervisors there created a

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Speaker 1: trust policy that bars any relationship between police and ICE.

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Speaker 1: The Commonwealth Attorney Steve Descano is consistently letting illegal criminal

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Speaker 1: aliens out of jail. The Sheriff Stacy can Say Kincaid

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Speaker 1: is refusing to work with ICE and she's letting repeat

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Speaker 1: offenders out day after day. The Governor Spamburger has stopped

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Speaker 1: all cooperation with ICE, and the stories are awful. Forty

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Speaker 1: one year old Stephanie Mentors stabbed to death at a

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Speaker 1: bus stop in late February, and this week, an illegal

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Speaker 1: immigrant adult male released into the country under the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration is now in a high school and is accused

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Speaker 1: of groping several female students there. Joining us to discuss

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Speaker 1: all of this is the reporter who is breaking these

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Speaker 1: stories and on top of all, on top of it all,

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Speaker 1: his name is Nick Minnick, reporter for WJLA seven News DC.

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Speaker 1: This is the ABC affiliate in Washington. Nick, you're on

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Speaker 1: top of this. A lot of people are hearing about

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Speaker 1: this stuff in Fairfax County for the first time thanks

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Speaker 1: to you. So answer the question, what in the world

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Speaker 1: is going on in Fairfax County in northern Virginia.

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Speaker 15: Well, Scott, it's great to be with you. It's definitely

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Speaker 15: more than a full time job covering what's happening in

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Speaker 15: Fairfax County. You see so many victims who are either

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Speaker 15: dying or being harmed by illegal immigrants who are released

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Speaker 15: time after time into the community in Fairfax County. They're

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Speaker 15: losing their lives, They're being harmed, and this is the

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Speaker 15: consequence that we see of a lot of policies at

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Speaker 15: the local level. Last time I checked. The Center for

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Speaker 15: Immigration Studies had Fairfax County listed in the top three

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Speaker 15: counties nationwide that does not honor IC detainers, and that's

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Speaker 15: a policy Sheriff Stacy Kincaid has right now. She will

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Speaker 15: not honor ICE detainers. And we hear these stories from

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Speaker 15: ICE a lot where they lodge detainers. The sheriff won't comply,

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Speaker 15: and she says ICE has to get a judicial warrant

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Speaker 15: in order to do that, and the governor, Abigail Spamberger,

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Speaker 15: agrees that I should get a judicial warrant. But what

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Speaker 15: is that? So when we looked into it, basically what

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Speaker 15: we found is the governor and the sheriff are asking

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Speaker 15: ICE to get something that essentially does not exist. Ice

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Speaker 15: can't go to a local judge and get a judicial warrant.

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Speaker 15: Even if they went to a federal court or a

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Speaker 15: federal judge, they can't get it either because a lot

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Speaker 15: of these things are state charges. You mentioned Stephanie Mentor,

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Speaker 15: her alleged killer is in the country illegally, and that's

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Speaker 15: a state charge second degree murder. So it's not like

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Speaker 15: ICE can go to a federal court and get a

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Speaker 15: warrant for something like that. So that's what we're seeing

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Speaker 15: right now in Fairfax County. And I spoke to Stephanie's mother, Cheryl,

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Speaker 15: and two of her brothers, Stephanie's brothers, and they're just

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Speaker 15: heartbroken and they feel like Fairfax County let them down

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Speaker 15: and completely failed their family and failed Stephanie.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the issue at the high school. There

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Speaker 1: is an illegal alien who is nineteen teen years old,

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Speaker 1: but is somehow a student in the high school. And

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Speaker 1: you have all these girls coming forward claiming they were groped.

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Speaker 1: What happened there? How is he in the high school

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Speaker 1: and what are the details?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so early last week a bunch of mothers and

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Speaker 15: fathers reached out to me and they said, we've been

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Speaker 15: watching you on seven News for a while and we

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Speaker 15: just want to let you know what's happening in our school,

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Speaker 15: Fairfax High School. And they told me that this man

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Speaker 15: student at Fairfax High School, he's almost nineteen years old,

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Speaker 15: has been groping their daughters more than a dozen girls

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Speaker 15: all school year. And they demanded of the principal send

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Speaker 15: out a email. And so two weeks after this was

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Speaker 15: reported to police, and a week after the man was arrested,

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Speaker 15: the principal finally sent out an email saying there was

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Speaker 15: buttocks touching. So if you were a parent and you've

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Speaker 15: it wasn't a big deal. But then you know, sitting

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Speaker 15: the touching was. Where he would go behind the girls

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Speaker 15: in the hallway at school as they were walking the class.

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Speaker 15: He'd put his hand in between their legs, starting from

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Speaker 15: girls are just traumatized. The man is now facing nine

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Speaker 15: counts of assault and battery, which are a misdemeanor simple assault.

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Speaker 15: He might get a slap on the wrist here. The

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Speaker 15: parents want to see him charge with sexual assault, which

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Speaker 15: are felonies. And this man Israel Flores Ortez, entered the

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Speaker 15: country illegally at the Southern bordered border unaccompanied when he

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Speaker 15: was seventeen years old, and the Biden administration released him

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Speaker 15: back into the US. He somehow made his way up

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Speaker 15: to Fairfax County where FCPS the school system. They're opening folks,

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Speaker 15: opening their arms to folks like this all the time.

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Speaker 15: They're happy to.

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Speaker 1: Have them, right, Yeah, this is troubling situation. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to see how the criminal justice system there treats him.

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Speaker 1: But I've got to be honest, based on your reporting,

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Speaker 1: I don't have high hopes that the parents are the

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Speaker 1: girls who've been molested are going to get much justice here.

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Speaker 1: Nick Minnick I would encourage by the way, everyone follow

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Speaker 1: Nick Minnick am I Nock, reporter for WJLA. If you

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Speaker 1: want to hear more about this another hour ahead, stay

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Speaker 1: with us. Scott Shedding's on Salem. Okay, it's Tuesday, March

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Speaker 1: the seventeenth. Scott Sheddings here on Salem. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Our number two is underway and we give you a

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Speaker 1: quick check of the headlines. Tonight, Team USA goes for

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Speaker 1: We have a major legal fight unfolding in Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: there ordered a thirty six year old suspect with thirty

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Speaker 1: but the Las Vegas Metro Police refused. They said the

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Speaker 1: man is too dangerous, citing his history of skipping court

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Speaker 1: releasing this man could violate their sworn duty to protect

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Speaker 1: public safety. The bigger issue here, though, is interesting. The

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Speaker 1: for electronic monitoring. Bottom line here in Vegas it is

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Speaker 1: a high stakes clash over crime, authority and public safety,

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Speaker 1: and it is now headed to that state's high court.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on that story. Finally, the DHS

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Speaker 1: shutdown continues, where in day thirty thirty one, I guess

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Speaker 1: may have to close in some cases due to TSA

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Speaker 1: staffing shortages, and this shutdown at the Department of Homeland

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Speaker 1: Security as Americans worried about the terrorism threats that exist

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Speaker 1: inside of our borders. Many of us are wondering, how

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Speaker 1: do some of these people that we've seen in the

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Speaker 1: news lately get into our country? How do they become

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Speaker 1: naturalized citizens? Are we vetting any of these people? Gen

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Speaker 1: Hamilton joins us now. He is the co founder and

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Speaker 1: president of America First Legal. He most recently served as

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Speaker 1: Deputy White House Council to President Trump. He also spent

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Speaker 1: time at the Department of Justice and DHS working on

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Speaker 1: immigration policy. Gan, Welcome into the Scott Jennings Show. You

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Speaker 1: worked closely with President Trump on many immigration issues over

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Speaker 1: the years. When you hear these stories about some of

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Speaker 1: these people who have committed violence inside of our country

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Speaker 1: recently they got here, we're part of our immigration system.

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Speaker 1: Now DHS is shut down. You hear about the possible

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Speaker 1: terrorism impacts. What is going through your mind? Isn't all

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Speaker 1: of this predictable if you let people in, you don't

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Speaker 1: vet them, and then you close DHS. Is this what

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Speaker 1: we get from a government and democratic policies that are

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Speaker 1: failing the American people.

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Speaker 16: It's exactly what you get. It's the complete opposite of

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Speaker 16: common sense. Common sense would dictate to any American that

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Speaker 16: you would only allow people into the country that you

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Speaker 16: can adequately vet in screening, determine that they're not going.

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Speaker 4: To pose a threat to security, to safety.

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Speaker 16: You're going to know that they're going to pay their taxes,

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Speaker 16: You're going to know all of these different things. For

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Speaker 16: the longest time, decades upon decades, people refused. They failed

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Speaker 16: to ensure that everything was actually as it should be

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Speaker 16: when it comes to vetting in screening. Donald Trump was

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Speaker 16: the first president in the United States to be able

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Speaker 16: to impose the right kinds of vetting and screening to

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Speaker 16: use leverage that the United States government has to extract

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Speaker 16: to be able to determine should this person be allowed

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Speaker 16: to come in to be amongst the American people, be

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Speaker 16: amongst our men, women and children and communities all across

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Speaker 16: the United States, or is it a chance that maybe,

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Speaker 16: just maybe they might eventually turn into a terrorist, Maybe

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Speaker 16: just maybe eventually they might commit a crime. And so

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Speaker 16: what we have now is that Donald Trump has taken

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Speaker 16: steps in his first administration and certainly in a second

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Speaker 16: administration to address vetting and screening to ensure that the

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Speaker 16: people we let in to this country to join our

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Speaker 16: American family are vetted and screened to the maximum degree possible,

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Speaker 16: otherwise they don't come in. Previously, that wasn't done. It

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Speaker 16: wasn't done that way. The borders, as everyone knows, were

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Speaker 16: open for years under the Biben administration in particular Obama

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Speaker 16: as well. And we are going to see more and.

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Speaker 1: More and more of these things over.

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Speaker 16: Time, of these types of attacks, crimes and etc. Unless

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Speaker 16: we let Ice to its job.

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Speaker 1: Geane. We had a couple of stories last week, terrible

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Speaker 1: tragic stories. In Michigan. We had someone whose brother was

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Speaker 1: a Hesbola commander in Lebanon, but he the attacker, was

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Speaker 1: a naturalized citizen in the United States, drove a truck

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Speaker 1: into a synagogue trying to kill one hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: preschool kids that were there. And then down in Old

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Speaker 1: Dominion University, we had a guy from Sierra Leone who

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Speaker 1: had become a naturalized citizen, was part of the National Guard.

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Speaker 1: Then he was convicted of trying to help Isis. Then

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Speaker 1: He winds up killing a retired military officer and an

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Speaker 1: ROTC guy at Old Dominion University injuring two others. He

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Speaker 1: is then subdued by the ROTC students on campus. In

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Speaker 1: both cases, you have people in the country. In one

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Speaker 1: case strong ties to Hesbola. In the other case, someone

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Speaker 1: who told a judge I wanted to help isis and

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Speaker 1: I'd like to have an attack like the one at

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Speaker 1: ford Hood. And yet, and yet they're out in the

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Speaker 1: American public. I recognize the vetting and screening processes have changed.

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Speaker 1: Now are we overdue for a complete and total review

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Speaker 1: of every single person with any kind of statuses here

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Speaker 1: with one simple question, does this person pose a threat

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Speaker 1: to the American public?

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Speaker 16: I think that we are overdue. I know that a

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Speaker 16: number of things are the works right now as we speak.

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Speaker 16: The Trump administration certainly made a commitment to engaging in

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Speaker 16: continually assess people against law enforcement and intelligence databases to

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Speaker 16: Because look, as we all know, things changed, Things change

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Speaker 16: over time, and so what we might not have known

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Speaker 16: few years ago, suddenly information comes into our possession. And

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Speaker 16: if we find out that they have a close family

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Speaker 16: member or friend who is a known terrorist. That should

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Speaker 16: lead to action being taken. And again that wasn't something

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Speaker 16: that was quite frankly being done. I mean, if the

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Speaker 16: everyone's very familiar with public school systems that are failing

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Speaker 16: in actually educating students. And yet nonetheless, even though students

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Speaker 16: will fail and fail and fail and fail, they'll still

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Speaker 16: immigration system functioned in the same way. Oh, you get here,

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Speaker 16: maybe you're here on a temporary visa, or maybe you're

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Speaker 16: here illegally, and then somehow magically, depending on the path

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Speaker 16: you fail your way into naturalization, and no one is

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Speaker 16: actually doing the things to make sure that at each

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Speaker 16: step along the way you're meeting the metrics for success

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Speaker 16: to be a upstanding American, to be a productive member

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Speaker 16: of the community. And so we are now I'm going

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Speaker 16: to see a lot more of these things over time. Sadly,

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Speaker 16: hopefully we can take the United States government under this president,

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Speaker 16: under this administration, we'll do everything that it can to

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Speaker 16: stop more of these things from happening, to deport more

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Speaker 16: of these folks who have questionable times, and to go

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Speaker 16: in and reassessed with modern technology all of the existing

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Speaker 16: files and intelligence holdings that we have on these many,

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Speaker 16: many people who are in our country currently today.

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Speaker 1: Gene last question, I got about thirty seconds here, and

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Speaker 1: the cases that I referenced last week both were naturalized

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Speaker 1: American citizens. A lot of people have been wondering, well,

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Speaker 1: how come we don't denaturalize people who break our laws.

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Speaker 1: You come here and then you commit an act of terrorism,

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Speaker 1: or we find that you're connected to terrorism, or in

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Speaker 1: the case of the guy in Virginia you got convicted

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Speaker 1: of trying to help ices. Why isn't there an automatic denaturalization?

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Speaker 1: How hard is that to do? Should we be doing

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Speaker 1: more of that?

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Speaker 16: We should be doing more of it. We need some

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Speaker 16: a few statutory fixes from Congress. There's a lot that

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Speaker 16: we can do with our existing tools that we have,

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Speaker 16: but it requires a vetting and a continual assessment of

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Speaker 16: the available information that's there, and quite frankly, we just

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Speaker 16: haven't done that. We haven't focused on that as a country.

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Speaker 16: We haven't devoted the resources necessary till through.

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Speaker 4: All of those files.

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Speaker 16: Hopefully that will start to be done very very soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Gene, it sounds like it sounds like we need

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Speaker 1: to call a few members of Congress about this, because

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Speaker 1: American citizens at risk. Geen Hamilton with America First Legal,

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Speaker 1: and four Relief. Get rid of the daily aches and

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Speaker 1: pains with Relief Factor. When we come back some polling.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about interesting stuff here

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Speaker 1: on the Scotch Jetting Show.

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Speaker 6: Stay with us geibe for free speech and Western civilization.

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Speaker 5: This is the Scotch Jetting Show.

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Speaker 1: Breaking news into the show. This just in President Trump

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Speaker 1: making some comments in the Oval Office a little while

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Speaker 1: ago about Operation Epic Fury, our war against Iran. Let's

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Speaker 1: listen to the President and cut seventeen.

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Speaker 9: We'll not ready to leave yet, but we will be

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Speaker 9: leaving in the near future.

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Speaker 5: We'll be living in pretty much the very near future.

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Speaker 9: But right now they've been decimated from every standpoint and

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Speaker 9: again We've had great support from countries in the Middle East,

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Speaker 9: great support, but we've had no support from essentially no

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Speaker 9: support from NATO.

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Speaker 1: The lack of some rhetorical support, but the lack of

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Speaker 1: tangible support from Europe is definitely got the president unhappy.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame him, but certainly the countries in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East are glad that the United States and Israel

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Speaker 1: are finally defanging Iran once and for all. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people have been wondering how is this affecting the

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Speaker 1: president political standing, especially in his own party. You probably

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Speaker 1: hear pundits and liberal news hosts opining that this has

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Speaker 1: caused some sort of rift in the MAGA coalition. The

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Speaker 1: President's losing his base. How many times have we played

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Speaker 1: this game? I want you to listen to my friend

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Speaker 1: friend of the show, seeing INN polling director Harry Inton,

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Speaker 1: talking about what's going on inside of the MAGA movement

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Speaker 1: inside the Republican Party. As we're in week three of

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Speaker 1: this warrant. Let's hear Harry in cut thirteen.

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Speaker 17: Sure, okay, MAGA gop on the US military action. I

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Speaker 17: run look at this nearly nine to ten eighty nine

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Speaker 17: percent approve of the US military action around that is

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Speaker 17: the MAGA GOP base just nine percent.

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Speaker 1: Disapprove of it.

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Speaker 17: This is tremendously popular among the Republican base, and of

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Speaker 17: course Marco Rubio, Secretary of State overseeing the effort. It

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Speaker 17: seems to me that a lot of people are taking

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Speaker 17: not in a new account, including President Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 17: has been smiling an awful lot at Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 1: La Rubio definitely distinguishing himself here in this effort. But

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Speaker 1: the broader point on politics is clear. If you hear

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Speaker 1: somebody tell you that the Republicans or the magabase is

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Speaker 1: abandoning Trump over the war, the polling just doesn't bear

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Speaker 1: it out. It is overwhelming evidence that that is a

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Speaker 1: false talking point designed to make you believe something that

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Speaker 1: is not true. I saw some other polling by the way,

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to share. I haven't talked polling on

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Speaker 1: the show in a while. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: polls come in. I try not to overdwell on this

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Speaker 1: because you know, polls come and go. Next month will

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Speaker 1: have more polls, then there'll be more polls. You could

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Speaker 1: talk about it forever, but one did catch my eye today.

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Speaker 1: It's called the generic Congressional ballot. Now, generic ballot means

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Speaker 1: you do a poll of voters and you say, if

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Speaker 1: the election were held today or in the upcoming mid

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Speaker 1: term election, do you intend to vote for the Republican

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Speaker 1: candidate or the Democrat candidate. It is generically asking people

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Speaker 1: which party will you vote for. So the most recent

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Speaker 1: you gov Economists survey taken in the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: over fourteen hundred registered voters in the United States asked

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Speaker 1: this generic ballot question. Democrats got forty three percent, Republicans

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Speaker 1: got forty one percent. Now small lead for Democrats, both

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Speaker 1: parties in the low forties. The other was two percent.

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Speaker 1: Not sure was eleven percent. What I saw in this

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Speaker 1: poll and what jumped out to me was the trend line.

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Speaker 1: Back on February sixteenth, a month ago, Democrats in the

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Speaker 1: same survey, same group had a seven point lead. On

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Speaker 1: March the second, Democrats had a four point lead. On

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Speaker 1: March the ninth, Democrats had a three point lead, and

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Speaker 1: on March the sixteenth, this survey, Democrats have a two

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Speaker 1: point lead. So the trend line here is pretty clear

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Speaker 1: that Democrats are receding somewhat over the last thirty days. Incidentally,

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Speaker 1: it's been about thirty days ago they shut down the

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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security. It makes me wonder if they're

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Speaker 1: not suffering there a little bit one other survey that

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Speaker 1: I was sent today, and look, this is not a

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Speaker 1: scientific survey, but but I did take note of it.

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Speaker 1: I have a colleague on CNN who hosts a show

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Speaker 1: on the weekends named Michael schmer Kanish God to Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: and he often posts questions for his viewers that they

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Speaker 1: can go on there and vote. Here was the question

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Speaker 1: that he posed for those who oppose President Trump, which

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Speaker 1: matters more to you Trump's political defeat or a US

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Speaker 1: victory against Iran. So twenty seventh, almost twenty eight thousand

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Speaker 1: people voted in this survey, seventy two percent said Trump's

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Speaker 1: political defeat mattered more to them. Only nearly twenty eight

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Speaker 1: percent or so set a US victory against Iran is

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Speaker 1: what mattered the most. Host That is Trump derangement syndrome

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Speaker 1: on full display. These people watch Michael Smerconish on CNN.

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Speaker 1: They care more about Trump taking an l politically than

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Speaker 1: they care about the United States defeating its adversary Iran.

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Speaker 1: That is some broken brained anti American politics. If there

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Speaker 1: ever was any coming up. The man who'll be sitting

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Speaker 1: right here, he's supposed to be here. He's on his way.

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Speaker 1: David Axelrod joins me live and in studio here at

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Speaker 1: Arizona State University. It's Scott Jennings on Salem. Don't miss

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Speaker 1: this conversation.

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Speaker 6: Right after this, ready for some common sense and a

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Speaker 6: little Kentucky wendage.

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Speaker 5: Here's Scott Jennings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Tuesday, March the seventeenth. It's a little chaotic in

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Speaker 1: the studio right now. David Axelrod is here. People over there,

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Speaker 1: there's people over there. We got a lot going on

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Speaker 1: in here right now. It's great live radio and a

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Speaker 1: live guest who will get to in just a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: a little breaking news that is related to a guest

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Speaker 1: we had on the show earlier. We talked about Governor

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Speaker 1: Basher's veto of the tax credit for education. That happened. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Kentucky Legislature has just overridden the veto, the Kentucky

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Speaker 1: Senate voting thirty one to five to override that. And

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Speaker 1: so the way it works in Kentucky now is that

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Speaker 1: it will go to the Secretary of State, who's a

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Speaker 1: Republican named Mike Adams, and he will actually sign that

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Speaker 1: bill into law. So Basher vetoed it. The Republicans have

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Speaker 1: overrode the veto, and now a Republican Secretary of State

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Speaker 1: will opt Kentucky in to the scholarship program that was

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Speaker 1: the tax credit that was part of the big beautiful bill. Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: March seventeenth, we're here at Arizona State University and David

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Speaker 1: Axelrod is here.

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Speaker 18: You know, I noticed that you put me in a

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Speaker 18: chair that's significantly lower than yours.

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Speaker 4: Is that part of the Yes.

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Speaker 1: I brought you here specifically to make you uncomfortable, and

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Speaker 1: it starts with your physical being in the studio. Now,

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Speaker 1: first I have to say thank you for the invitation

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Speaker 1: to be here at ASU. We're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: some students in a little while, which you've your teacher

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Speaker 1: class here and then you're part of the Public Policy

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Speaker 1: school here.

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Speaker 18: Well, yeah, I'm a I'm a professor of practice. Largely

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Speaker 18: what I do is I bring people like you and

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Speaker 18: we have conversations that hopefully will be edifying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, electrified.

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Speaker 1: Well, if anybody gets electrified at this that would be

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Speaker 1: quite a quite a So thanks for coming by the show.

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Speaker 1: I want to start here. I had rom on yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did, you know, really interesting guy occupying interesting space

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Speaker 1: in the possible Democratic primary for president. You know him

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Speaker 1: well from.

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Speaker 4: Chicago for forty something years.

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Speaker 1: He's got a really interesting resume. Ambassador, congressman, mayor.

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Speaker 4: One president, counselor to another.

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Speaker 1: I mean, guy's been high level experience at every level

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Speaker 1: of government. What do you make of this. He's he's

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Speaker 1: carving out I think, one of the most unique lanes

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Speaker 1: in that potential primary.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well, I think you look, he's incredibly smart, he's

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Speaker 18: politically sophisticated, and he's also, as you say, very experienced

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Speaker 18: and thoughtful about about issues. And he I think recognizes

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Speaker 18: that there is a lane for someone who's offering ideas

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Speaker 18: that are, you know, about how to move the country

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Speaker 18: forward rather than looking backward. And you know, he's getting

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Speaker 18: a lot of uptake, certainly among the sort of opinion

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Speaker 18: opinion elite world. He's getting some big reviews. And honestly,

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Speaker 18: once you make the Scott Jennings show, yeah, that's the

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Speaker 18: that's the traditional launching pad for a Democratic presidential kid.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, particularly in a Democrat primary,

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Speaker 1: this is a first stop. I would think for most people.

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Speaker 18: Maybe maybe he's not as smart as I said, But

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Speaker 18: I mean he is going, He's going everywhere, and I

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Speaker 18: think it's he's he is more advanced, I think, and

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Speaker 18: is thinking about the campaign than a lot of people

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Speaker 18: who are aspirants are.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I asked him this yesterday, and he spent

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Speaker 1: a fair amount of time pivoting to criticize net Yahoo.

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Speaker 1: But I asked him, I said, can a Jewish guy

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Speaker 1: from Chicago who has had a long standing view that

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing that we're allied with Israel win

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Speaker 1: a Democratic primary for president or any other primary for

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Speaker 1: that matter. Now he pivoted to his long standing dislike

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Speaker 1: of net Ya, which I know you share, but just

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Speaker 1: politically tactically, what's your view on that?

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Speaker 4: Look?

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Speaker 18: First of all, I there's an argument that a Jewish

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Speaker 18: candidate is in a stronger position to stake out the

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Speaker 18: position that he's staking out, which and his position is

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Speaker 18: that net Yahoo is not ultimately good for the long range,

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Speaker 18: long run interests of Israel. I mean, he and I

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Speaker 18: both were and continue to be some orders of a

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Speaker 18: two state solution, and we were you know, that was

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Speaker 18: the back and forth between US President Obama and n

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Speaker 18: Yahoo back in the day when we were in the

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Speaker 18: White House. But you know, I think the thing about

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Speaker 18: Ram is that he is willing to He made these points.

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Speaker 18: He received a humanitarian award the other week. I know

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Speaker 18: if he mentioned this at the Illinois Holocaust Museum, and

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Speaker 18: he made some of the same points that he made

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Speaker 18: to you. So I think that in some ways it

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Speaker 18: could be advantageous to be able to be honest both

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Speaker 18: to Democrats about why this relationship to Israel is important,

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Speaker 18: with Israel is important and to these diehard supporters of

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Speaker 18: net Yahoo who he believes I agree with him are.

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Speaker 4: Being misled.

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Speaker 1: Is it really the job, though the American president or

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Speaker 1: any American politicians to dictate the internal domestic politics of

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Speaker 1: an Ally. I mean that that is the pushback, whether

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Speaker 1: you love net yahou or you don't like them or

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Speaker 1: think it's time for it. I mean there are Ally

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Speaker 1: and the Israeli people. Then the Israeli political system has

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Speaker 1: produced this leadership structure right now. It is it our

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Speaker 1: job to try to say no, you have to do this,

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Speaker 1: that or the other.

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Speaker 18: Well, the relationship between the US and Israel is a

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Speaker 18: little bit different. I mean, the the the level of

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Speaker 18: support that the United States gives and has from the

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Speaker 18: beginning is a special relationship. Everybody always refers to it

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Speaker 18: as a special relationship. And and you know, I mean,

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Speaker 18: we live in a time where where the current president

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Speaker 18: president you are close to friendly with, is endorsing candidates

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Speaker 18: in YEP in elections. So I think that people will

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Speaker 18: look to our leaders as to well, what is your

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Speaker 18: policy relative is reel, what is the advice that you

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Speaker 18: would give Israel? And Ram really has a deep base

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Speaker 18: of knowledge about the history of that, yeah, of not

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Speaker 18: just Israel, but the conflict.

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Speaker 1: He's not really I don't think a household name among

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Speaker 1: most voters. There are a couple of people who are

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Speaker 1: growing in knowledge. Gavin Newsom of California's one, Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: floating around out there obviously is widely know maybe Alexandria

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Speaker 1: o Casio CARTESU some people want to run. Would you

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Speaker 1: consider those three people to be the at least nominal

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Speaker 1: front runners for Democrats in twenty eight or too soon

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Speaker 1: to even sort of talk about it.

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Speaker 18: Look, I think people will talk about it because that's

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Speaker 18: an obsession, you know. But I think the most disadvantageous

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Speaker 18: in some ways. Thing to be is the front runner,

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Speaker 18: you know, two and a half years before an election,

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Speaker 18: because I think things change. I mean, I think Gavin Newsoman,

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Speaker 18: I've said it many times, very talented guy. I think

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Speaker 18: he won the presidential primary of twenty twenty five because

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Speaker 18: I think people were so hungry for someone to punch

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Speaker 18: back and to you know, meet Trump trolled to troll

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Speaker 18: and so on, and Newsome has done that and he's

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Speaker 18: aroused some support in the party because of it.

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Speaker 4: And on the redistricting, I think he's scored a lot

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Speaker 4: of points.

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Speaker 18: But the question is what are people going to be

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Speaker 18: looking for in twenty twenty eight, And I suspect people

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Speaker 18: are going to be looking for what comes next. I

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Speaker 18: don't think they're going to want, you know, the most

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Speaker 18: pugilistic person to take on Trump, because Trump will be

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Speaker 18: on his way out. So you know, I'm spending a

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Speaker 18: lot of time, Scott thinking right now about what is

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Speaker 18: the market going to be looking for. My theory of

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Speaker 18: presidential politics has always been has always been informed my

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Speaker 18: advice to Obama. People never choose the replica of what

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Speaker 18: they have, even if that person is popular. They choose

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Speaker 18: the remedy to the things they think the current president lacks,

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Speaker 18: and so to be like to be like Trump in

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Speaker 18: it in many ways, or to try and be like Trump.

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Speaker 18: That's not advantageous. I think people are going to be

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Speaker 18: looking for other qualities that he that they don't believe

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Speaker 18: he has.

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Speaker 1: At voiceher hearing. David Axelrod a counselor too and a

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Speaker 1: political advisor to a former President Obama, a professor of

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Speaker 1: practice here at Arizona State University, my colleague at CNN.

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Speaker 1: We spend a lot of time, David, on and off

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Speaker 1: the air talking about the state of our politics. You're

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Speaker 1: kind of giving me a view of what's happening in

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party heading into twenty eight. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: interesting on the Republican side Trump, as you mentioned on

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Speaker 1: his way out, everybody assumes Jade Vance will be the nominee,

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Speaker 1: although lately President Trump seems to talk glowingly about Marco

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Speaker 1: Rubio in public. I see a brewing. You know, grassroots

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Speaker 1: likes Vance, the donors like Rubio. You know, Rubio is

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Speaker 1: a pretty prominent guy in the administration as a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Just you're watching all this, how does it look to you?

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Speaker 18: Well, you know, This is such an interesting time to

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Speaker 18: ask that question, and I want to add, parenthetically, among

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Speaker 18: the things you said about me, I'm the founding director

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Speaker 18: of the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics. So I

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Speaker 18: don't want them to feel, of course, no love here.

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Speaker 18: But this is an interesting time to ask that question

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Speaker 18: because I think this war is a complicated issue as

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Speaker 18: it relates to the presidential race of twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 18: On the Republican side, JD. Vance was probably more outspoken

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Speaker 18: than most in staking out the kind of Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 18: non interventionist, you know, no forever wars, no foreign intervention, no.

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Speaker 18: And he's been pretty muted in this period. Rubio is

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Speaker 18: the point man, yeah, on a lot of this. And

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Speaker 18: you know, Marco Rubio is both the Secretary of State

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Speaker 18: and the National Security Advisor. The last person to have

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Speaker 18: both those positions was Henry Kissinger, which means he's around

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Speaker 18: the president all the time. So how this goes may

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Speaker 18: influence how that race goes, both for Vance and for Rubio.

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Speaker 18: If it's judged a success and we get out with

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Speaker 18: not too much more damage and oil prices snap back,

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Speaker 18: and the Middle East is you know, at peace, and

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Speaker 18: the Iranians have turned the page and so on. That's

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Speaker 18: one thing. If if it's a little messier, it could

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Speaker 18: be messier for Rubia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a I think point man is the right word.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was in the Oval office today making

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Speaker 1: some comments, also making some comments about Cuba, which you know,

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Speaker 1: we had been talking a lot about because we had

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Speaker 1: Venezuela and then almost immediately around. But the Cuba situation,

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Speaker 1: you know, they've got electrical grid issues, people in the streets.

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Speaker 1: The president and his people seem to think something's about

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Speaker 1: to happen. There doesn't feel like we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: intervene militarily either. What do you what's your gut tell you?

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Speaker 4: Well, look, they have.

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Speaker 18: Been, you know, a reliant for forever on the on

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Speaker 18: the Russians first, the Soviets and the Russians, and on Venezuela,

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Speaker 18: and when you know, after Maduro left, they lost an

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Speaker 18: ally there and obviously there's an understanding between the existing

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Speaker 18: the remaining regime and the US as to providing oil

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Speaker 18: for Cuba. And it's you know, this is a huge

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Speaker 18: pinch that they're feeling, and it's beginning to really crumble.

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Speaker 18: And how my guess is that they will seek to

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Speaker 18: strike some sort of deal or arrangement. The tricky thing,

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Speaker 18: and Rubio certainly understands this better than anyone.

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Speaker 14: Is.

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Speaker 18: If people feel that you've abandoned the idea of a

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Speaker 18: free and democratic Cuba and that elements of the regime remain,

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Speaker 18: I don't think they're going to be as happy as

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Speaker 18: perhaps they were about what happened in Venezuela. And so

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Speaker 18: I'm sure they're trying to calculate all of that.

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Speaker 1: That voice you're hearing. David Axelrod special guest in person

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Speaker 1: conversation on the Scott Jennings Show. Today More with David

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. We'll talk about the media business

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Speaker 1: when we come back. Quick word from our friends at

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Speaker 1: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: it many times on this show. We have missiles raining

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Speaker 1: in the Holy Land, people are in bomb shelters, people

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Speaker 1: are being injured. The IFCJ, the International Fellowship of Christians

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Speaker 1: and Jews, they're the ones who are preparing large scale

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Speaker 1: distributions of life saving food, first aid and emergency essentials

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Speaker 1: for all of these shelters, and the security personnel who

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Speaker 1: are helping people there. If you want to stand with

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Speaker 1: the people of Israel right now, my advice go to

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Speaker 1: support IFCJ dot org. Support IFCJ dot org. You can

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Speaker 1: get involved in supporting the people in the Holy Land

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Speaker 1: who are certainly vulnerable. You have the sick, the elderly,

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Speaker 1: children and families. They depend on the IFCJ and therefore

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Speaker 1: they depend on you more. With David Axelrod when we

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Speaker 1: come back, we're live on the campus of Arizona State University.

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Speaker 1: I'm Scott Jennings. It's common sense for the American people.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more right after.

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Speaker 6: This, conversations and stories you simply won't hear from the

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Speaker 6: mainstream media.

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Speaker 5: It's the Scott Jenny.

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Speaker 1: Show and it's Tuesday, March seventeenth, Home stretch on The

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Speaker 1: Scott Jenning Show. In person guest David Axelrod. We're here

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Speaker 1: in Tempe, Arizona, on campus at Arizona State University. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk with students and folks in the campus community here tonight. Aks.

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Speaker 1: We had about five minutes here in our conversation. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to shift gears to the job that we do together,

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Speaker 1: which is we work for CNN. So we've been part

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Speaker 1: of the media landscape together for nearly ten years now.

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Speaker 1: But times are changing and how people are consuming political

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Speaker 1: news and news in general. And you've been through it all.

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Speaker 1: You were a reporter earlier in your career.

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Speaker 18: I used to work for something called a newspaper where

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Speaker 18: they actually printed the news on paper wow, distributed it.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll get into the Encyclopedia's Britannica. Is here to

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Speaker 1: a study about that? You know, obviously we're a little

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Speaker 1: bit of leadership flux or ownership flux, I'd say it's CNM,

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Speaker 1: but just generally, you know, you've lived through this for

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Speaker 1: a few decades. Now, what's your sort of outlook on

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Speaker 1: the media business right now, how people are consuming information,

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Speaker 1: what are your sort of gut feelings on it?

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Speaker 4: Look?

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Speaker 18: You know, I was just having this discussion with a

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Speaker 18: parent of young people who said, hey, we don't we

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Speaker 18: don't want it was actually Amy Walter has a son

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Speaker 18: nineteen years old. She was on my podcast this morning.

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Speaker 18: She said, my kids, you know, they don't watch news.

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Speaker 18: The news they get is from you know, YouTube and

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Speaker 18: other places. So there's so many outlets that it's hard

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Speaker 18: to know what the impact of all of these changes are.

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Speaker 18: I do worry Scott, I do. I am concerned about government, uh,

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Speaker 18: and I know you probably are too. Trying to put

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Speaker 18: a thumb on this scale about how things are covered.

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Speaker 18: Every president who's ever lived, including the one you work for,

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Speaker 18: George W. Bush, and the one I work for, Barack Obama,

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Speaker 18: was unhappy about coverage at some point or another. It

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Speaker 18: is endemic to the presidency, but most of them did

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Speaker 18: not feel like it that they should use their leverage

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Speaker 18: to try and influence coverage. I think that's a frightening

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Speaker 18: thing from a First Amendment standpoint. I was glad to

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Speaker 18: see Ron Johnson and some others speaking out about that.

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Speaker 18: It's something I think that should unite people across the spectrum.

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Speaker 18: But the real question is how will people get their

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Speaker 18: news in the future, And are we going to be

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Speaker 18: so adomized that we only get news from news sources

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Speaker 18: that tell us that affirm our points of view, even

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Speaker 18: if they don't always inform our points of view? And

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Speaker 18: does that dig us deeper into the silos in which

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Speaker 18: we're living that concern?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm with you. You know the algorithms I think

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Speaker 1: drive us into these bubbles. And you know, I've certainly

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Speaker 1: gone on set at CNN and have seen videos or

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Speaker 1: news articles or you know, information that the rest of

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Speaker 1: the panelists haven't seen, and vice versa. And it does

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Speaker 1: make you wonder. You know, I have the diet that

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Speaker 1: I'm being fed. You have the diet that you're being fed.

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Speaker 1: But I say this to audiences sometimes, yeah, well, and

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Speaker 1: it's sometimes hard to have a shared national purpose when

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Speaker 1: you don't have a shared reality. I mean back to

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Speaker 1: your newspaper point. We're not all walking out on the

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Speaker 1: same front porch, grabbing the same newspaper, looking at the

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Speaker 1: same front page and then discussing. We're getting very different angles,

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Speaker 1: even if those angles are not inaccurate or it's just

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Speaker 1: different points of view. Now, some of it is inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: I also worry about the AI piece of it, But it.

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Speaker 18: Does rhythms, these algorithms are really they're they're driving us there.

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Speaker 18: They don't have a political point of view, but they

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Speaker 18: know what yours is and they drive you into the

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Speaker 18: ones that respond to yours. And yeah, it kind of

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Speaker 18: and they exclude the ones that don't. Uh, And it's

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Speaker 18: dangerous and there is misinformation that helps drive some of this.

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Speaker 18: And like I actually you and I are I don't

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Speaker 18: want to destroy You're doing so well, I want to

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Speaker 18: destroy you. We're we're friends, We're really good friends. We

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Speaker 18: are people. Democrats say, how can you be friends with that?

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Speaker 18: Scott Jennings. Occasionally I say, Jesus, I don't know, but

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Speaker 18: but I explain that we know each other. We know

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Speaker 18: each other as human beings, we know each other as people,

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Speaker 18: we know each other's family stories and so on. We've

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Speaker 18: got to fight to reclaim that. We have to find

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Speaker 18: our common humanity because the profit motive of these social

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Speaker 18: media platforms is not that it's to keep us online,

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Speaker 18: and they think these divisions are what does it And

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Speaker 18: they think micro targeting us is there is their play,

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Speaker 18: and that's what algorithms do. So I'm very I'm very

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Speaker 18: very anti algorithm in that regard.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great conversation about this and other

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Speaker 1: issues tonight here on campus, and then we're gonna further

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Speaker 1: deepen our friendship tonight at a baseball game. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do what's good for the soul.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a place to have a good conversation.

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Speaker 1: You got that America's pastime. We'll catch a little spring

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Speaker 1: training tonight out here in Arizona. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you all for listening today. David X, thanks for coming

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Speaker 1: on the show, Thanks for having me to campus. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back on this campus again tomorrow. One more Arizona

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Speaker 1: show before heading back east. It's Scott Jennings on Salem.

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Speaker 1: See you then,