1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: You're listening to every Day Prayers with Million Praying Moms, 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: helping you pray God's word for your family in the 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: areas you need at most. 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: I'm your host, Nicolette Bell. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: Here, we believe prayer isn't a last resort, It's our 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: first and best response in parenting, and every day we 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: come together to partner with God for the hearts of 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: our children. Today on the show, we have a guest 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: with us. Scott James is the author of Deep Breath, 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: Little Whispers, and I am so excited to have Scott 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: here to talk with us today as this is a 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: book that I have been reading at home with Josie, 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: my four year old, and we are loving it. And 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: I love this conversation about prayer and how to teach 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: your children simple breath prayers to help calm them and 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: relax them and teach them that God is the one 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: that we go to when we feel anxious or overwhelmed. 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: Scott, Welcome to the show. 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 4: Nikolead thank you so much for having me. It's an 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 4: honor to be with you. 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: Yes, So, we don't normally have guys on the Million 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: Praying Mom podcast, so I have to tell you we 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: are just excited to have you on today. 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: It's funny. 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: I told somebody I was recording with the dude and 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, we don't do 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: that on MALLI praying moms, Like, well we are because 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: I like Scott's resources and you're also a pediatrician, Scott, 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: So begin tell us a little bit about you to 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: kick us off here. 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, happy to be here. Can we can we 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: get a million praying dads going? 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: I know right, We'll have to work on that. 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. Honored to be here in this space with you. 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: I am. Yes, I'm Scott James. I'm a pediatric physician. 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: I'm an elder slash pastor at our local church and 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 4: pretty active in kids ministry and things of that nature. 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: So I'm just wired to kind of communicate with kids, pediatrics, 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: kids ministry. That's my that's my lane. I like kids 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: way better than adults. And so my wife, Jamie and 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: I have been married for twenty three years. We have 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: four kids on our own. Our kids are actually getting 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: pretty old there now in high school and college. I 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: got to in high school, two in college. But still 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: trying to communicate, you know, core truths transforming truths of 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: God's Word and of the Gospel with them and never 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: planning on stopping that. And so for me, I love 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 4: still communicating with kids, and so a lot of the 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 4: conversations I'm having with them are still the sort of 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: seed ideas that lead to children's books and family worship books. 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: I started writing for them when they were little. Basically, 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: anything I've ever published is just something I wrote for 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: my kids to try to help our home look to 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: Christ daily. And sometimes those things made it outside of 56 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: my home into wider publications, which is the Lord's providence 57 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: and is super fun and I love it. But things 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: look a little different now as I'm still writing for 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 4: kids because I never want to stop that. But my 60 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: kids are all old now getting older. 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 3: Wow, that's really cool, So tell us about this latest project. 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 4: I love prayer in general, right, so I have this 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: kind of tenuous relationship with it, though where I have 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: always I think had this kind of underlying understanding and 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: appreciation from God's Word of like what prayer is and 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: the fact that we have access to God through Christ, 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 4: the fact that we have this great privilege of speaking 68 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: to the creator of the universe. And so I've always 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: valued that from a very young age. But the trick 70 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: was I was always terrible at it. I always put 71 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: put too much weight on kind of some of the 72 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: logistics of it and kind of carving out specific time, 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: specific place, a certain length of prayer, certain you know, 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: regularity of the types and times of prayers that I 75 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: was doing, and you know, when I wasn't as consistent 76 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: as I wanted to be, or when I, I don't know, 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: fell asleep while I was praying. When I was young, 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: I kind of had this guilt what might be the 79 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: right word, where I just like, I'm not doing it right. 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: I need to pray better, And I kind of came 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: into just some yeah, I would say, some gradual maturity 82 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 4: in understanding the attitude of prayer and passages like first 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: Thessalonians five p. Seventeen where Paul says pray without ceasing, 84 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: pray continually, So like, what does that look like in 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: our life? What does it look like to just have 86 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: prayer as something that permeates our life and is not 87 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: necessarily a compartmentalized thing that we set up time to do. 88 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: Full disclosure. I also love that I think it's awesome 89 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: to set aside time and to spend kind of dedicated 90 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: contemplative time in prayer. But I'm just trying to basically 91 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: grow in this idea of just kind of having an 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: all day, everyday conversation with God, of just my relationship 93 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: with God be something that's so natural that it's just 94 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: a completely knee jerk reaction for me to talk to 95 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: Him at any moment, at any time all throughout the day, 96 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: just whatever's kind of running through my head or my 97 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: heart to take that to the Lord and to just 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 4: have ongoing dialogue with Him throughout the day as I'm 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: seeking him. So, as a father, was just really trying 100 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: to find ways to help instill that in my kids. 101 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 4: I saw them kind of wrestling with some of those 102 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: same struggles that I wrestled with when I was younger, 103 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 4: about wanting to be really good at praying but not 104 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: always being as consistent as they wanted to be. And 105 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: so we just kind of had a lot of conversations about, 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: you know, what it looks like to just live our 107 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: daily life before the face of God, to just kind 108 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 4: of be in communion with God at any given moment 109 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: throughout our day. And so breath prayers became a thing 110 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 4: that were kind of like one way in which we 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: did that in our home, and it was just kind 112 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 4: of conversations that were surrounding that were the kind of 113 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: the seed idea of this book when my kids were 114 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: a little bit younger, and it's just been kind of 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 4: brewing in my head for a while, and what unlocked 116 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: it for me was actually a bit of a non 117 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: sit because it was a passage that's not directly related 118 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: to it. So I'm pulling something out of context, which 119 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: I don't normally love doing and I wouldn't recommend. But 120 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: in Isaiah twenty six, there's this kind of passing phrase 121 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 4: where it just mentions every whispered prayer and it's a 122 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: totally different context, and that's kind of a different teaching direction, 123 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 4: But just that phrase a whispered prayer stuck out to 124 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: me and then was kind of the creative seed idea 125 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 4: for Ooh, what would it be like to kind of 126 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: have a little catchphrase or a reminder that would help 127 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: our kids or help me honestly, as I'm going about 128 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: my hectic day, what would it look like to calm myself, 129 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 4: center my thoughts on the Lord, take a deep breath, 130 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: and whisper out the thoughts of my heart, the feelings 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: that I'm having, how to take that to the Lord? 132 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: So deep breath, little whisper became a bit of a 133 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: catchphrase in our home, and that's where the book came from. 134 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to hold it up for those who 135 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: are watching on the visual with us. It's such a 136 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: cute cover and I love the illustrations. They're absolutely beautiful. 137 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: I wanted to show this one in particular. It's a 138 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: beautiful sunset. I love, love of love this particular picture. 139 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: And it's my favorite. 140 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: Is that your favorite one? I love it. 141 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna read this one, Scott and you can 142 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: kind of well, then we'll talk around kind of the 143 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: what it, what it means and why you run in 144 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: this direction in the book, but in this on this 145 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: page it says when you see God do something wonderful, 146 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: dot dot dot deep breath, little whisper. 147 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: Wow. 148 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: And how I just I stop at this page every 149 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: time we read it with Josie, because how often do 150 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: we as adults just run around with our like like 151 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: chickens with our heads cut off, and we don't ever 152 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: stop and just say, Wow, God, what a beautiful sunset 153 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: that you've given us this day and that prayer. It 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: doesn't always have to be we need this or we 155 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: need that, but just sometimes it's this just wow, yeah, yeah, 156 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: just recognizing you're children that yeah yeah, yeah. 157 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: Yeah you Well, so you framed it so well in 158 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: that it's like, how often do we stop and recognize this? 159 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: And that so implies that the thing that we need 160 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: to recognize, meaning the glory of God, the beauty of creation, 161 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: the good work that God is doing in our world, 162 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: that's always there. He's always good. The thing that changes 163 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: is my awareness of that. So his his goodness, his grace, 164 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: his glory at that's constant. But a lot of times 165 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: I'm just so distracted and I'm looking other ways and 166 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: I'm not in tune with that. And so part of 167 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: the thought behind a book like this is how do 168 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: we develop kind of daily habits to kind of tune 169 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: our hearts to sing his praise or to pray what's 170 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: what's in our hearts to him? And so a thing 171 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: like that, like looking at the sunset, what I was 172 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: trying to capture, and this actually just came from a 173 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: real life scenario in our home, was the great Creator, 174 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: the great artist, is painting that picture on the sunset 175 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: canvas every single night, and in our home we actually 176 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: from our front door, we have this beautiful vista of 177 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: the sunset every night, and so it's always there. The 178 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: Creator is always showing off and his glory is on display. 179 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: What we're trying to do is kind of help our 180 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: kids develop this habit of recognizing that, of just being 181 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: aware of it and then calling it out and giving 182 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: him credit. And so for us, the one of the 183 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: times was when I saw that a sunset and I 184 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: just said wow. I just was truly implying wow, like 185 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: that's cool, that's awesome. And my daughter said, look what 186 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: God did. And so that's when the wow got attributed 187 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: to the one who created the sunset. And then that's 188 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: when wow can become a prayer of praise. I think 189 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: we kind of originally got the idea from a book 190 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: by Anne LaMotte called Help, Thanks, Wow, where she argues 191 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: that there's three those could be roughly categorized as three 192 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: basic types of prayer, Help me Lord, thank you Lord, 193 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: and wow, like your amazing Lord, and so just developing 194 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: rhythms of well rounded prayer where we're asking for things, 195 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: but we're also just praising and you know, just kind 196 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 4: of basically telling God what's on our heart. Right, Like, 197 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: my kids are full of big thoughts and big emotions 198 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 4: and God is big enough to receive them all, and 199 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: so I want my kids to not in any way 200 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: be shy about speaking those to God. 201 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: That's so, that's so cool to think about. 202 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: When you said that, I'm automatically thinking of the Lord's 203 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: prayer in my head and the different prayers that Jesus 204 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: prayed because he models that for us so well, those 205 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: different pieces of prayer, and how to bring those to 206 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: the Father before the Father in faith and trust. And 207 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, it's funny, I personally have had a practice 208 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: of breath prayer in my own life. I want to 209 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: dig into that a little bit more because some people 210 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: that are listening today may have no idea what that is. 211 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: I want to define that, but I'll just say to 212 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: start start the conversation that I have had this practice 213 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: in my own personal spirituality, in my personal relationship with God. 214 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: And then I know just the scientific power of breath 215 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: in calming us and easing our anxiety and just the 216 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: active meditation or breathing, So I think you know your 217 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: breath and then connecting that with scripture, we're just getting 218 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: double the dose of power there, right. And I have 219 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: taught my daughter Rainbow breaths is what we call him 220 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: in our house because we are very girly. We just 221 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: love all the rainbows and unicorns and all the things. 222 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: So we do rainbow breaths in our house when we 223 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: get upset or overwhelmed. I don't know where I saw it. 224 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: Somebody told me about it, but we do a big 225 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: and make the shape of the rainbow and try to 226 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: get Josie to calm down, and she'll do our rainbow breaths. 227 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: Another day she told me, Mommy, you need to do 228 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: a rainbow breath. 229 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 4: Yes, I love it when they turn. 230 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: It to us, Yes I do. 231 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: But Scott, I never thought about teaching her a breath prayer. 232 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: It just never crossed my mind until I picked up 233 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: your book. I just didn't know something. It works for me, 234 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't. And I'm using breathing with her and 235 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: how we discipline and how we help her calm down. 236 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: But I didn't think about helping her connect that to scripture. 237 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: The kids are in tune with that, and it's something 238 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: that tracks with for some reason, they just kind of 239 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: get it, and they see the just how incredibly normal 240 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: of a thing it would be to make sure that 241 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: we're aware that our bodies and our souls are connected. 242 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: That's absolutely true, and it's to our detriment when we 243 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: pretend otherwise and pretend like there's this kind of wall 244 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: separating or this dividing line between. And so there's lots 245 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: of good practice and even scientific evidence of kind of 246 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: how body and soul are connected and how regulating one 247 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: helps regulate the other. And yeah, for me, breath prayers 248 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: have always been I've never been deeply into you can 249 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: go far into breath prayers in a very rigorous sort 250 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: of way. Yes, I'm a simple dude. So for me, 251 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 4: it was much more about a deep, calming breath that 252 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: helps me center my mind on the Lord and then 253 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 4: kind of an exhale that helps me just call out 254 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: to him with whatever care I have, you know first 255 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 4: Peter five seven, whatever care you have, you know, put 256 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: it before the Lord is my rough paraphrase of it. 257 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: So he, you know, cast your cares upon him because 258 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: he cares for you. And so for me, it's just 259 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: sort of a chill out, like calm down, whatever whirlwind 260 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: you're in center yourself on the Lord, you know. And 261 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: the trick is that there's you know, worldly versions of 262 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: it that are more about emptying the mind. And what 263 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 4: we're looking here to do for my life and for 264 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: my family's life. I'm looking to fill my mind with 265 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: the things of the Lord, so I'm not emptying my mind. 266 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: I'm actually centering my mind on the Lord and a deep, 267 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 4: calming breath exactly. It's like he's at the center. I 268 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: just need to sometimes take a deep breath and remind 269 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: myself that, and then pairing it with prayer is just 270 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: sort of a natural thing because again, like as I'm 271 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: filling my mind with the things of the Lord, as 272 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: I'm refocusing and resentering on him, my mind and my 273 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: heart are just full of things that I want to 274 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: call out to him for, whether I'm asking for help 275 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: or thanking him or praising him or just lamenting or 276 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: sometimes I don't even have the words, so the whispers 277 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 4: more of a grunt. But all that's fine. And God 278 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: is there for us, ready and willing, I mean so 279 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: much so that he tells us over and over in 280 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: his word to come to him and go to him 281 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: in prayer, and he models it like you said the 282 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: Lord's prayer. If you just read through the Psalms, there's 283 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: a one hundred different types of prayer that are modeled 284 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: in the Psalms. And so we're really just trying to 285 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: kind of take the lead from scripture and deeply rooted, 286 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: well rounded prayer lives that connect with God on a 287 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: daily basis, not even just daily, but moment by moment. 288 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 4: I'm always connected with God. I can always go to 289 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: Him with anything that I have, anything I want to say. 290 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: I don't have to wait for the perfect time or 291 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: the perfect place, I don't have to use big fancy words. 292 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 4: I can just call out to God. Spurgeon C. H. 293 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: Spurgeon's one of my favorite, and he had this one 294 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: real QUIPI line. He's really good at short lines, and 295 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: he just said, short prayers are long enough. Yeah, yeah, 296 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: I got Yeah. 297 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: I love that, especially for moms, and that's what we 298 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: were talking to here on the podcast. It's one of 299 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: our main prayer pillars here at Million Praying Moms is 300 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: that prayer is our first and best response. So it 301 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: doesn't have to look perfect. It can look in the 302 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: middle of your child's tantrum. It can look like you 303 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: taking a deep breath and looking up at heaven and 304 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: saying help like that. You said that that's one of 305 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: the examples you give in your book, and it's like, 306 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: just help, I need help. 307 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what to do here. 308 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: I am like, I'm here and I need you. I 309 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: need help or I need peace, whatever it might be 310 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: that we're calling out for. But it's that not waiting 311 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: for us to get it all together, because we're not 312 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: gonna have it all together. I have two little ones, 313 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: like my life if it's not quiet right now, and 314 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: that's okay, But I can still learn to connect with 315 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: God in the midst of folding laundry and pairing socks together, right, 316 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: and those whispered prayers can become so powerful and to 317 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: connect us to our Creator in these seemingly unimportant moments 318 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: in our lives. 319 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: I totally agree, absolutely, And that's kind of what with 320 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: this book. I'm really just trying to model this thing 321 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: where the parent and the child or the caregiver and 322 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: the child, whoever it is, can be in on this together. 323 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 324 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to hear desperately as a parent just 325 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: a human being, and it's a thing that I want 326 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: my kids to kind of be instilled with this kind 327 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: of natural reflex to just center yourself on the Lord 328 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: and call out to him. And it's something that we 329 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: can do together. We can model, we can encourage one another. 330 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: Like you said your daughter's encouraging you to do rainbow prayers. 331 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: My kids do the same. Like once, we had this 332 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: catchphrase in our house. It was like our little shorthand 333 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 4: version of just you know, chill out and go to 334 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: the Lord was sort of how we use it. And 335 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: I mean there would be Sunday mornings where I was 336 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: like Tasmanian devil getting ready for church and everything's hectic, 337 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: and my daughter would just be like, you know, and 338 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 4: she'd not overstepping, she'd do it respectfully. But my youngest 339 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: daughter would be like, Dad, deep breath, a little whisper, 340 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, okay, good, thank you. I needed that, right, 341 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: oh gosh. 342 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 343 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: So there's so much I think wisdom that we can 344 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: we can find in this. 345 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 3: For our children. 346 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: And what if we can instill this with them at 347 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: a young age and then they don't have to maybe 348 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: do all the unwinding that we are having to do, 349 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: because maybe we talk them too to look to the 350 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: Lord and you know, our lives do get more crowded 351 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: as they grow and experience the world. But these routines 352 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: and little habits, I think do stick if we put 353 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: them there when they're sticky. And I love you said 354 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: your kids are older now, but you're still using this 355 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: little little catchphrase within in there. 356 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah. And we tend to over complicate things, So 357 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: I think it's really important to just kind of, you know, 358 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: put the cook he's on the lower shelf, show them 359 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: the beauty of prayer, show them that God is always 360 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 4: there for him. He's always ready to listen to every 361 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: little word they have to say. Get that instilled at 362 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: a young age to where that's just common sense to them, right. 363 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 4: They don't have to then struggle later of is God 364 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: really listening to me? They know they've you know, by 365 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: the time they're teenagers and dealing with more and more 366 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 4: and more complicated things which are going to come, they've 367 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: got this you know, decade long track record already of 368 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 4: God's faithfulness just clearly on display in their life, and 369 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: that's something they can bank on. I really want that 370 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: for my kids. 371 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: And to pray out loud in your home, to pray 372 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: over your kids, to pray with your kids. I was 373 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: talking with a woman the other day and she really 374 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: was felt like the Lord was asking her to pray 375 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: out loud, and that's something that she did not do. 376 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: She didn't grow up in a home where prayer was 377 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: done out loud. It was done quietly, was done in 378 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: the hind closed doors, which scripture does tell us that, right, 379 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: go in a closet and talk to the father. But 380 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: it also so this idea of that continual conversation, well, 381 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: that continual conversation is going on wherever I am right 382 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: and so in our home, I want that to be 383 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 2: really normal, that we would just you know, be talking 384 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: to the Lord. My four year old the other day, 385 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: I took my new baby to I don't want to 386 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: call it daycare, but it really kind of is for 387 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: the first time, and I was sad about it, and 388 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: so in the carpool line when I was dropping my 389 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: oldest off, she just said, Dear Jesus, please help mommy 390 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: not to be sad today because baby theos it at daycare. 391 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: And it just touched me so much in her little life, 392 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: like right now she knows like when we have a problem, 393 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: when mommy's sad, I can talk to jesusout. 394 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 4: It's just natural. 395 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: I love that, Yes, but we don't it perfect, but 396 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: we're trying. 397 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: But modeling it in that way and modeling a wide 398 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 4: range of types of prayers. It's it's good because you 399 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: mentioned some people being kind of afraid to pray out loud, 400 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: and I one hundred percent get that. I have several 401 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: close friend and family members who have kind of walked 402 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: through that of that struggle, and it oftentimes ends up 403 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 4: being because the only prayers they've seemed modeled were the 404 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: more inaccessible type, the really high falutin language, and everything 405 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 4: sounds like completely put together, like you got to spend 406 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 4: time writing your prayers out ahead of time kind of stuff. 407 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: Now again, to be fair, I actually love doing that. 408 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 4: I write liturgical prayers for the fun of it, and 409 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: I think it's really good informative. But if that's all 410 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: you've ever seen, that's sometimes inaccessible to some people, and 411 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 4: what we're looking to do is just show kids the 412 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: beauty of natural, reflexive prayer that is the completely common 413 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 4: sense response to a living an active relationship with God. 414 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: God. 415 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: That's it, and I. 416 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: Love it so much. 417 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: I think the studied a little bit while a little 418 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: while back when I was preparing to just kind of 419 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: touch on this a bit, just breath prayers in general 420 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: for a women's conference I was speaking at and really 421 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: kind of learned a little more about the word that 422 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: is used for breath in scripture and learning kind of 423 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: that that word in the beginning when when God breathed 424 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: life into Adam, and he breathes life onto the draw 425 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: bones and Ezekiel, and then he. 426 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: Says he uses the same word. 427 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: Jesus uses the same word to describe the Holy Spirit 428 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: when he describes the Holy Spirit, And that is just 429 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: incredible to me. 430 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 3: It's this idea of God himself. 431 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: In us as our very breath, like his breath, his 432 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: spirit is what brings us alive into life, and so 433 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: so often we just don't even realize we're breathing. We 434 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: just take it for granted that we're walking around and 435 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: we're breathing. So that's such a connectiveness to God. I 436 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: love that you're a physician and your heart is for 437 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: this this kind of this conversation. How does what you 438 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: know about about science or maybe any experiences you've had 439 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: in My husband always says, you don't realize you're not 440 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: he's a physician too. I didn't say that, but he 441 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: always says, you don't realize you're breathing until you're not right, 442 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: and then then it kind of takes on that different 443 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: meaning of your of your breath with you. No. 444 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, whenever I'm listening to anyone's chest with my stethoscope, 445 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: sometimes I need them to breathe deep so I can 446 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: listen to their lungs. And sometimes I need them to 447 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: breathe normal quietly, just so I can listen to their 448 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 4: heart without their breath sounds getting it in a way, 449 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: And inevitably I'll do the kind of uh breathe, you know, 450 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 4: just breathe normal, and then they stop and there's like 451 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: a glitch and they're like, well, I don't I don't 452 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 4: know how to breathe. But it's like it's so it's 453 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: so natural, and it really is baked into our brainstem, 454 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: like it's just the most natural, uh you know, neuro 455 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: reflex that we have to just breathe and sustain. And 456 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 4: it's only when we kind of overcomplicate things and overthink 457 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: things that we can muck it up and we can 458 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 4: kind of get in the way of our natural rhythms 459 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: and so part of this is just recognizing the natural 460 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: rhythms that God creates for us, and so it's reminding 461 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: us to just live our lives in communion with Him. 462 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 4: That's how we were created. That was the original design 463 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: in the garden of Eden, to dwell with God, Him 464 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: with his people, us with Him, living in perfect harmony 465 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: and at peace. We can imitate that here and now 466 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: by trusting in Christ and kind of bringing that peace 467 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 4: consciously into our lives through faith in Christ, and then 468 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: look forward to the day when it will ultimately come 469 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: to fruition in the New Heaven and the New Earth. 470 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 4: That's kind of the journey that we're headed for. So 471 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: in the meantime, I just really want to recognize that 472 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: God created me with a body and a soul, that 473 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 4: the two are interconnected. That I'm to steward my body 474 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 4: and take care of it and live in a healthy 475 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: way that glorifies the Lord and treats the body that 476 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 4: he gave me with respect, and to steward that as 477 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 4: a resource He's given me, but then also care for 478 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: my soul and recognize that only one of them, in 479 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: the sense of where I'm sitting right now, only one 480 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 4: of them is going to be eternal. My body will 481 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: eventually be eternal, but this current one is not. I 482 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: need to be remade. I don't know, like high flutin 483 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: theological answer, but in my mind, it just connects the 484 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: body and the soul together as both created by the Lord, 485 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: both good, both to be stewarded together, and prayer. I think, 486 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: particularly with the way you highlighted the spirit and the 487 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: language that comes into that. It's that breath of life 488 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: that brought us to life. It's that breath that God 489 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: uses to raise us from the dead when he saves 490 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: us right, and it's the breath that the Holy Spirit 491 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: dwells with us to kind of give us God's power 492 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: as we go out about our faith filled life. And 493 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: then it's the breath that He uses to breathe scripture 494 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: out to give us his word so that we know 495 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: what He's like and how to live. So all of 496 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: those things are interconnected and are designed to help us 497 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: love the Lord and follow him and point others to Him, 498 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: and any way that I can incorporate that into my 499 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 4: life my practice as I am caring for other people. 500 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 4: It's just a joy. 501 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: Well, Scott, this has just been wonderful. I feel like 502 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: I have learned a lot and have enjoyed our conversation together. 503 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you'd like to share with our 504 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: audience before we sign off? 505 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: I think your audience is I think perfectly prime to 506 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 4: appreciate the message of what we're talking about here, because 507 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 4: you guys are already keyed in on praying over your kids, 508 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: of going to God in any given moment with all 509 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: the needs that we have throughout the day as parents, 510 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: and so yeah, just my hope and my prayer is 511 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: that a resource like Deep Breath, Little Whisper would just 512 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 4: sort of get into a whole bunch of homes just 513 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: so it can be something that becomes a help or 514 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: a resource that helps point people to this habit of 515 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: daily prayer, just to develop rhythms of taking a deep 516 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 4: breath and going to God with whatever you need. So 517 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 4: I hope it is a resource that blesses your community richly. 518 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to plan on getting some copies to 519 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: give out as some birthday party gifts coming up and 520 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: different things like that as well into some friends of 521 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: mine for their children. 522 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: It may be my new baby shower gift. We'll see. 523 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: I'm loving, loving it in our own home, and so 524 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: you definitely want to get your copy and we'll link 525 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: all about Scott in the book in our show notes 526 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: today and Scott, if you would you please pray over 527 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: our moms that are listening today. 528 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 4: That would be an honor. 529 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Father. 530 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 4: We thank you so much, Lord, We thank you for 531 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: the way that you are working in the lives of 532 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: everyone who is listening to this right now. Or we 533 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: pray that your spirit would be with them and that 534 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: you would be drawing them closer and closer to you 535 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 4: each and every day. What I pray that these moms 536 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: would look to you and as the burdens of each day, 537 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 4: as the complicated mess that comes at us from every 538 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 4: angle each day is unfolding around them as they're entering 539 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: into the whirlwind of life. We pray that you would 540 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: give them a calm and a peace and a centering 541 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 4: on you. 542 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: Lord. 543 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 4: Would you help them be aware of your presence in 544 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: their life and help them build habits to just tune 545 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: into that and to find true peace and to find 546 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 4: true rest in You. And Lord, we pray that would 547 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: be something that transforms their life as they draw closer 548 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: to You. But then also that that would be something 549 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 4: that they could pour into their children, into their husbands 550 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 4: and to their family members. Lord, would you just help 551 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: so many healthy habits form of moms who love you, 552 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: praying for their kids, praying over their kids, modeling prayer 553 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: with their kids, encouraging and teaching their kids how to 554 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 4: pray in this sort of rhythm and pattern. Lord, we 555 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 4: just pray that you would be glorified in all this, 556 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 4: that we would come to know you better, and that 557 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: we would be drawn closer to you and find true 558 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: rest and peace in your arms. And Lord, thank you 559 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 4: so much for everyone listening and just their desire to 560 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 4: learn more and know more about you and to point 561 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: their children to you. So I pray that you would 562 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 4: be glorified and all of those efforts as these moms 563 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 4: are seeking to glorify you. And it's in Jesus, this 564 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: is his name. We pray these things. Amen. 565 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: Amen, Amen Scott, thanks so much for being with us 566 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: today and we will see you guys back next time. 567 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: Thank you. 568 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: Are you a visual learner? 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