1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Hi from the Salvation Army. You're listening to Words of Life, the. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: Words of the Life. 4 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 4: Hey, and welcome back to Words of Life. If you 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 4: can believe it. At least throughout much of the US, 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: a new school year has arrived, and so we are 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 4: launching a new series today that we pray will be 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: a blessing and an encouragement to the parents out there. 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: I'm being joined by a panel of friends, including a 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: high school math teacher and a student counselor, as they 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: share wisdom and practical advice on how we as parents 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: can help our kids thrive this school year. Check out 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: the show notes for several links to resources mentioned throughout 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 4: this series. 15 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 5: I am Heather Hanton. I am a mother of two children. 16 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: My husband Tom works here at THHQ, and I have 17 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 5: seventeen and nineteen year olds. And I was a preschool 18 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 5: teacher for about five years, a long time ago, before marriage, 19 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 5: before children of my own, and now I am just 20 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 5: a mom who helps their kids succeed in school. 21 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: My name is Melissa Pewell. I work at the Salvation 22 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: Army Territorial Headquarters in Atlanta in the Youth Department. I 23 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: am the Territorial Children's ministry coordinator, so everything for kids 24 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: birth to fifth grade falls under me, which is really exciting, 25 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: especially for this conversation today. I'm married and I have 26 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: three kids. They are twelve, ten, and eight, so we 27 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: are in the middle school years for some of them 28 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and then definitely elementary. Still, I'm just a mom. I 29 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: don't have any teaching anything in my past, but I 30 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: love kids. I have a heart for them. 31 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 6: I feel like being just a mom like overqualifies you 32 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 6: just right now, Melissa, my name is Dinas Crouch, married 33 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 6: to Matt Crouch, who's sitting next to me. We have 34 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 6: three kids. We have a high schooler now, fifteen year 35 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 6: old going into high school. We have a middle schooler 36 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 6: going into she's going into eighth grade, and then we 37 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 6: have a son who's ten and he's a fifth grader. 38 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 6: So we got one in each stage now, which is 39 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 6: really fun, a little scary, but very exciting too. But 40 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 6: I am a licensed mental health counselor. I received my 41 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 6: degree in Christian counseling about four years go, and I 42 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 6: specialize working with children and adolescents. I do work with 43 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 6: adults as well, but I specialize mainly in play therapy, 44 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 6: working with children, and I do trauma work as well, 45 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 6: and I adapted to my work with children and adolescents 46 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 6: my Salvation Army background. I did work for the Salvation 47 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 6: Army for fifteen years before God called me to another field. Yeah. 48 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 6: I worked in as well here at the territorial headquarters 49 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 6: in Atlanta, in the youth department as well, So I'm 50 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 6: kind of seeing some of my old peeps from back 51 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 6: in the day. So I have some experience working in 52 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: youth ministry as well. And on top of that come 53 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 6: from family of officers. My parents are retired majors in 54 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 6: the Salvation Army. Yeah. I think I'll let Matt take 55 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 6: over the rest. 56 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, Matt Crouch, Like Bennas said, we have three kids. 57 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 7: My experience has been in education my entire working career. 58 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 7: I started teaching actually here in Atlanta where we're recording, 59 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 7: so it's cool to come full circle. I am a 60 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 7: high school math teacher, so I've done that my entire career, 61 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 7: which is I think now sixteen seventeen years. Currently teached 62 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 7: in Charlotte, North Carolina at a big public high school 63 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 7: and really really enjoyed it. So I'm excited to be 64 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 7: part of this conversation and learn from you guys and 65 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 7: hopefully add a little bit to it as well. But 66 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 7: we're very excited to be humble and hopefully grow together 67 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 7: as we're all trying to grow each day as the 68 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 7: world keeps changing and our kids keep growing. 69 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 4: Math was my worst subject. 70 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 7: Many I think there's nothing wrong with math. It was 71 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 7: the math teacher. 72 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: You know. 73 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 7: Save that for another podcast. 74 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: Hey, you're listening to the Salvation Army's Words of Life. 75 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: We're going to take a quick, bad break and we'll 76 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: be right back. Summer is almost over. What are kids feeling? 77 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 4: What are the parents feeling as we're about to start 78 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 4: a new school year. 79 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 7: I think it depends. But our little one, our fifth grader, 80 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 7: he's losing his summer. He doesn't want to go back 81 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 7: to school right now. I think kids often when you 82 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 7: talk about what they're feeling, it's one thing, and then 83 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 7: when they get there and they're living it, then they're 84 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 7: actually having a great time. So he's like, I don't 85 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 7: want to go back to school. But when he does 86 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 7: go back to school, he'll be having a great time 87 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 7: and he'll be happy to see his buddies. So there's 88 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 7: a bit of dread there for him. Our older one 89 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 7: is nervous but excited to get back at it and 90 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 7: moving into high school, bigger pool of friends that she's 91 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 7: hoping to connect with, so she's excited for that opportunity. 92 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: The school supplies have started coming in at our house, 93 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: and so my ten year old daughter, who's in fifth 94 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: grade this year, she's over the moon. She gets a 95 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: computer mouse this year, so she's super excited, and a 96 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: new lunch box and the clothes are coming in. So 97 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: it's probably less for school than it is stuff that 98 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: comes with it, but she's over the moon about that. 99 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: My seventh grader, however, is less than thrilled about the 100 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: future of school. As a parent, though, I am over 101 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: the moon. It is time for these children to go back, 102 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: send them to school. 103 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do this. For my daughter, she's entering her 104 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 5: senior year. With her, there is a little pressure and anxiety. 105 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 5: I think that comes just with that whole thing, you know, 106 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: like now it's going to be figuring out schools and 107 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 5: colleges and things like that. But at the same time, 108 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: for her there's a sense of relief. She's now entering 109 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 5: her third year at this school, and just a little background, 110 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 5: my kids have been to a lot of schools because 111 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 5: we've moved a lot. Every time we started over was 112 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 5: a whole thing, anxiety for the whole family, all the things, 113 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 5: all the pressures and finding doctors and starting over and 114 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: what's the bus route like or what's the car loop 115 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: like or you know, all of those things. So for her, 116 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 5: now she's a pro. She's here, and so there's a 117 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 5: little relief for her to step back and just say, hey, 118 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: now I can just focus on just being who I am. 119 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: And she's already started back to school because she's been 120 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: at marching band camp all week, so she's been at 121 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: school for this whole week. But yeah, I. 122 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: Was going to mention that that is such a good thing. 123 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: And I'm sure we'll talk about this later on, but 124 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: having your kids connected to some type of extracurricular thing 125 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: in school is so important. My daughter, she's fifteen, going 126 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: to tenth grade, and she made the volleyball team last year, 127 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: and so they started practice two weeks ago, and so 128 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: she's only going in like three days a week, but 129 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: it's at least getting her used to not. 130 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 5: Waking up a noon. 131 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 6: It helps the transition. 132 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so she's seeing the school again. She's getting 133 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: used to the routina waking up and you know it's 134 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: only a few hours, so it's it is a good transition. 135 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 4: We pray that you're enjoying and being blessed by this conversation. 136 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: We're going to take one more ad break and we'll 137 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: be right back. What changes have you seen in your 138 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: kids or in your students, just kind of over the years, 139 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: and maybe even you know, for you, Matt, like, what 140 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: changes have you seen in that same age group, maybe 141 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: over the course of your teaching career. I'll start there. 142 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 7: I think sometimes kids are kids, and so there's not 143 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 7: always this huge shift. There are definitely changes from the 144 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 7: beginning of teaching career. Technology has grown significantly. The way 145 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 7: we teach in the classroom has changed too. I would 146 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 7: say the biggest one is that there's a bit more 147 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 7: of a divide. When I say divide, I mean that 148 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 7: some of the kids are just seem a little bit 149 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 7: more distant from the engagement piece, engaging with their classmates, 150 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 7: engaging with their teachers. I have to work even harder 151 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 7: to reach them, whereas some more natural things used to 152 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 7: be enough. So I think that's probably the harder pieces 153 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 7: that they're not behaving any worse than they usually do. 154 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 7: But I would say that they seem a bit more distant. 155 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 7: They're just a bit more numbed. That's the biggest change 156 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 7: I've seen in my students with our kids. Dynasia and 157 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 7: I were chatting about that earlier. 158 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we said that there's just less enthusiasm. 159 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 6: You kind of grow out of the you know, the 160 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 6: earlier stages of like, you know, being excited to see 161 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 6: your friends, your teachers. You know, they kind of know 162 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 6: the drill the older they get, and so there's just 163 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 6: less enthusiasm and engagement in like, oh gosh, school supplies 164 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 6: and things like that. But at the same time, I 165 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 6: think as they start their new routines and their new structures, 166 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 6: they do fall into it. But that's just something we've 167 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 6: noticed in our kids. 168 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: I think I've seen my kids become more independent over 169 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: the course of elementary school, and like my soon to 170 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: be seventh grade is much different than he was back 171 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: in like fourth grade. Even seeing him be able to 172 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: handle his homework on his own now, like it's not 173 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: something that we have to say, hey Ben, did you 174 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: do that? Did you do that? You don't forget you 175 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: have to do this like he just he knows the routine, 176 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: he knows when he comes home, like he gets it done. 177 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: So it's been nice to kind of see him take 178 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that on without us having to constantly be on him 179 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: for that. 180 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: That transitions a little scary though at first too, because 181 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they're not telling you about their 182 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 4: work or you know what they're studying as much and 183 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: so like a art, are you doing it? And then 184 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: of course that's when being connected with your kids teachers 185 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: and actually going to the parenting cher conferences and stuff 186 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: is important, because then they will kind of fill in 187 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: those gaps that maybe they're not telling you about anymore. 188 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Exactly. 189 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: Well, my family having to start over and my kids 190 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 5: having to start new schools, we have walked them through grief, 191 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 5: panic attacks, loneliness, all of those things, the fear. But 192 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 5: I've also seen the big change in both of my 193 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 5: kids is that they have learned how to cope and 194 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 5: adapt to things and overcome some of these things, thank 195 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 5: you Lord, becoming more independent about things. I'm so proud 196 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 5: of my kids because I feel like all of these 197 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 5: experiences have also made them stronger in their faith. They've 198 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 5: become unafraid of things, and they've had big successes. I've 199 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 5: just seen my kids just overcome a lot of things 200 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 5: and grow and change and become even better humans I 201 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 5: could have even asked for. 202 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 4: For my daughter, what was interesting is up until ninth grade, 203 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: she was in a private school. We knew we wanted 204 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: her to have a public school experience at some point, 205 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: and so we had her go into public school the 206 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 4: year before high school. So it wasn't like a huge 207 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: jump into the big school. But one interesting thing that 208 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: kind of happened is just being in a larger school 209 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: with so many more different types of people. Previously there 210 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 4: wasn't a lot of diversity. And my other half of 211 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: my family is Hispanic. Most of her school is minorities. 212 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: That does mean something, I think, to just be exposed 213 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: to more and also even just while you're figuring out 214 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: who the heck you are when you're a kid, seeing 215 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: more people that also kind of look like you, Yeah, 216 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: it's been cool to just kind of see her coming 217 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: out of her shell more. As we're going into this 218 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: new year, how can families, us as parents intentionally prepare spiritually? 219 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 7: I would say we should be praying for them. There's 220 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 7: something kind of terrifying sometimes about just dropping your kid 221 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 7: off at school right when they were young, especially. I 222 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 7: think when we can pray, it gives us a confidence 223 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 7: in something bigger than ourselves, something that we obviously aren't 224 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 7: physically controlling. But it's a beautiful thing to be able 225 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 7: to trust the Lord that he's going ahead of our kids. 226 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 7: The second thing I think that I tried to do 227 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 7: is try to bring some stability, try to bring some 228 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 7: calm as the school you starts ramping up, the nerves 229 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 7: start coming, And I tried to just consistently remind our 230 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 7: kids of who they are in Christ and that their 231 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 7: identity doesn't change based on who their teacher is and 232 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 7: whether their friends end up in their class or not, 233 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 7: or even the grade or their grades one hundred percent. 234 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 6: And keeping the door open right and not just having 235 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 6: like a one off conversation. It's a continual check in 236 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 6: of hey, how are things going for you, and then 237 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 6: being open yourself, being authentic and disclosing hey, yeah, I'm 238 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 6: feeling a little. 239 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: Nervous about it. What are your thoughts? 240 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 6: It just helps our kids get those emotions and those 241 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: thoughts out that they would otherwise be harboring or keeping 242 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 6: inside even if as a parent you're like, well, they're 243 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 6: not going to say that's okay. The point is that 244 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 6: you are again that anchor, that person to check in with. 245 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: The Salvation Army's mission. 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