WEBVTT - Supreme Court Bombshell Rocks Midterms 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.200 Welcome to this week on Capitol Hill, your insider's guide 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.920 to the story shaping Washington and the world. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:07.480 I'm your host Tony Perkins. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:12.240 From high stakes nuclear negotiations with Iran to major constitutional 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.520 rulings here at home, to new revelations about government overreach. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.960 This has been a consequential week here in Washington. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.239 Really, nobody knows what the talks are. Accepting myself and 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.919 a couple of other people. They want to make a 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:29.280 deal badly. We have a problem because nobody knows for 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:30.680 sure who the leaders are. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:32.599 It's a little bit of a problem. You know, the. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.800 Leaders have been wiped out along with their military. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:37.920 Almost all of them know. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:43.200 I was President Donald Trump this week discussing the negotiations 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.800 with Iran. Who is likely to be in control of 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.760 the country and will they accept a deal that actually 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.519 ends their nuclear program. We'll talk with former Secretary of 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:58.360 State Mike Pompeo. And a landmark Supreme Court decision this 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.840 week ruling that congressional streets drawn primarily on the basis 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.920 of race are unconstitutional. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.759 The Supreme Court opinion came out, I've obviously not had 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.480 a time to read through that I used to litigate 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.720 these kinds of cases. So I'm looking forward to it. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.120 But I just talked to some folks who've gone through it, 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.720 and they said that this is obviously the right result. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.040 They determined that the last map that was drawn for 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:23.440 Louisiana was done unconstitutionally, and we've been saying that consistently 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:24.039 from the beginning. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.679 That was the obvious result. So we'll see what effect 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.000 it has. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.720 That was how Speaker Mike Johnson, he'll join us later. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.800 I'll also ask him about last weekend's White House Correspondence dinner, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.080 which he attended. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.200 Also, the Justice. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.960 Department's Task Force to Eradicate Anti Christian Bias released a 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:46.040 sobering report this week detailing how the Biden administration used 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.680 the machinery of government against Christians who opposed the left's 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:55.200 radical policies on abortion, human sexuality, and gender ideology. Will 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:59.320 be joined by Admiral Brian Christine, Assistant Secretary for Health 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.800 at ahh US, who served on that task force. All 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.120 of that and more coming up this week on Capitol Hill. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.600 Today's edition of This Week on Capitol Hill is being 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.000 presented by aarp. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.000 Well, keeping Washington on the edge of their seats this week. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.560 Just hours before a Thursday night deadline, Congress passed a 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.960 forty five day extension of section seven oh two of 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:32.920 the Foreign Intelligence Surveill Surveillance Act known as FAIZA, allowing 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:38.040 US intelligence agencies to continue monitoring foreign communications. The short 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:42.000 term fix came after both Republicans and Democrats rejected longer 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:47.200 extensions over privacy and constitutional concerns, issues that are far 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:51.440 from resolved and will resurface when Congress returns in ten days. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.520 Joining us now to break it all down is newsmax's 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.920 Chief White House A Chief Washington correspondent James Rosen. James, 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.760 welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.160 Great to be back with you, Tony. Thank you. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.440 All right, let's talk about section seven oh two. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.320 The House moved forward a three year reauthorization of section 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.960 seven oh two that had some other provisions in it. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.520 The Senate rejected it. They had to come back with 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.600 a forty five day extension. Tell us what's going on? 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:22.240 Right? 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.040 So this is known as Section seven oh two is 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.680 one provision in a broader law called the FISA, the 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.640 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. This is one of the laws 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.520 that was passed in the wake of Watergate to provide 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.240 some better rules of the road for our intelligence agencies 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:44.440 and how they collect information, particularly in cases involving foreign intelligence, 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.600 both overseas and here at home. And that's what created 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.880 a phies a court as well to evaluate some of 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.720 the decisions made by our intelligence agencies in using this provision. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:59.960 Section seven oh two provides for warrantless wiretapping or electronic 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:06.119 surveillance on foreign persons if foreign intelligence is involved, and yes, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.520 on US citizens if those foreign citizens happened to be 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.680 in contact with American citizens. This came out in two 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.000 thousand and eight, It was enacted in two thousand and eight, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.120 and it has been Section seven two a subject of 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:24.680 perennial debate where you have a kind of odd bedfellows 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.200 alliance of liberals on the far left and conservatives on 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.240 the far right who both have privacy concerns and who 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.039 are libertarian about these matters, uniting to challenge Section seven 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:40.040 oh two. It gets reauthorized by the skin of its 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.320 nose seemingly every few years, but it's always the subject 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.840 of contentious debate. And as you just pointed out, this 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.680 fight is nowhere near over because the extension that the 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:53.039 House passed with I should point out some democratic assistance 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.400 on the floor of the House only lasts for forty 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.440 five days, and we're going to have that fight. I 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.120 guess that means what sometime in September. 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.160 I've spoken to members of the House Freedom Caucus who 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:11.080 are the most unified in opposition to this without provisions 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.359 concerning warrants being added. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.560 What's your sense does this get reauthorized? 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:20.040 I think it always does. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.560 History tells us that Section seven oh two, despite a 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.960 lot of sound and fury, always emerges in some form 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.760 or fashion for reauthorization. I aired when I said that 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.840 we'd be looking at the next battle over Section seven 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.200 oh two in September, I meant to say July of 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:34.839 this year. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.880 My sense is yes, it will be extended. It seems 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.440 always to be re extended. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.480 And what's fascinating about this battle, though, is that, again, 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.039 aside from the fact that you have people on the 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.240 far left and people who are hard right converging in 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.440 their opposition to this against the centrists and the national 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.640 security hawks who always push for extension and reauthorization of 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.480 Section seven oh two, what's interesting interesting to me about 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.880 it too, is how A parallels the debates over DHS 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.120 and how the Republican leadership in the House right now 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.160 needed some Democratic assistants to get that over the line 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:10.599 as well. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.400 Yeah, it's one of those rare occasions of bipartisan maybe 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.480 not support, but opposition where they come together. Let's talk 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.720 about the Supreme Court. This week you tracked the Supreme 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.680 Court pretty closely. The Supreme Court issued a major ruling 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.440 on Louisiana's congressional maps. We're going to talk with the 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.400 Speaker about this a little bit later, but this is 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.320 pretty significant. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.840 This was a decision in the case of Louisiana v. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.240 Cala that came down this week six to three majority, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.800 with the majority opinion written by Justice Alito, and that 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.520 would tell you pretty much the breakdown in the justices. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.200 They're often referred to as conservative block and liberal bloc. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:54.880 I prefer the Originalist block and the Living Constitution Block, 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.920 but those tend to align with liberal and conservative anyway. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.880 In essence, this decision found that a particular district voting 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.720 a congressional district in the state of Louisiana had been 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:11.040 was unconstitutional because it was unlawfully tailored to create a 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:15.400 black majority in that district. And it's basically the Supreme 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.000 Court ruled that the Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.920 five did not cover that kind of activity, and so 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.880 as a practical matter, Louisiana had to immediately announce the 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:30.800 governor landry there that they were postponing their primaries that 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.080 were set for May so that they can redraw the 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.760 maps now in accordance with the Supreme Court ruling. And 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.800 this was welcomed on the right because of the nature 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.480 of what they would say would have been racial gerrymandering, 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:48.000 and in essence the Court agreed. And it comes amid 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.680 this larger battle Tony to shape the battle to shape 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:58.080 control of Congress, and that is the mid decade redistricting effort. Typically, redistricting, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.680 the drawing in each state of new maps for the 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.800 congressional districts, takes place only after the US Census has 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.960 been released and has provided accurate population figures for each 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.720 of the congressional districts. But searching for ways to deliver 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.560 some more breathing room for Speaker Johnson, who has presided 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.960 over historically slender margins in leadership at the House the 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.760 last three elections, having produced single digit majorities in the 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:28.000 House of Representatives. The President urged Republican governors last year 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.760 to begin mid decade redistricting, and some complied and some didn't, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.400 and some Democratic governors saw what the Republicans were doing 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.800 then followed suit. So there's been a battle in a 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.280 number of state houses and a number of state legislators 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.360 across the country to adopt new maps that would favor 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.520 the respective party of the governor in power. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:46.880 In those states. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.720 And in all it's seen that the Republicans will probably 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.480 exact some net benefit in the mid decade redistricting, not 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.599 as much as would provide, for example, for a supermajority 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:00.960 or for the kind of majorities the Democrats enjoyed for 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.040 some forty years in the last century, but nonetheless maybe 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.199 a bit more breathing room for Speaker Johnson. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.000 It's interesting, you know, a lot of people don't know 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.280 the history, but in Louisiana back in the nineties, when 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.840 I was in the legislature, when we redrew our lines, 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.320 we had to get approval from the Department of Justice 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.320 for our congressional lines. In fact, Clio Fields, who is 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.160 in the current seat that was litigated, was in the 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:28.760 seat back then one of the minority districts. It just 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:33.480 elections have significant consequences as we fast forward twenty five 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.040 years to where we are now, where the Supreme Court 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.320 is actually saying these states it's unconstitutional to do what 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.400 they were used, what they were forced to do twenty 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:43.079 five years ago. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.760 You know, a lot of what we're talking about really 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:51.080 to me tony signals or contains one common thread, and 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.160 that is the deterioration of the health of the American 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.600 political culture. When you're having these elections so often has 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.880 change elections where one party or the other is thrown 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.360 out the digit, when the majorities in Congress provide so 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:13.160 little room for meaningful action. You know, when agency shutdowns occur, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.760 like as has happened to DHS, which is the longest 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.760 in history at seventy six days. Shortly before that occurred, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.840 we saw the longest shutdown in the history of the 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.559 federal government at thirty five days, and those are becoming 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:25.240 more frequent. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.120 We see impeachments becoming more frequent. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.000 All of this signals, I think, in deterioration in the 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.640 health the well being of our political culture. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.160 I could not disagree. That's why I think in this 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.520 two hundred and fiftieth year, we need to return to 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:44.200 those foundational principles that gave health to our society and 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.600 that's rooted in our faith. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:48.800 James, we're gonna have to leave it there. We're out 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.200 of time. Thanks so much for joining us. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.240 Coming up next, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo joins us, 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:53.920 and don't go away. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.440 Scammers dealing billions of dollars from America's seniors, and they're 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.360 ramping up their efforts with. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.240 Calls, texts, or clicks. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.000 They can steal a senior's entire life savings. But we 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.880 have the power to stop these criminals. 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He served 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.920 as US Secretary of State in the first Trump Administration 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.000 Secretary Pompeo, Welcome. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.199 Back to this week on Capitol Hill. 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.160 Ohwait, great to see you, to be with you again, Tony, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.120 thank you for having me on. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.280 Well, let me jump right into this, mister secretary, who's 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.960 calling the shots in Iran? I know we've taken out 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.800 to some of the clerics and there seems to be 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.840 certain conversations taking place, but the actions are not meshing 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:21.920 with the conversations, suggesting that maybe the Islamic Revolutionary Guard 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.800 is actually driving the train. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.280 Tony, I think that is precisely correct. I think you've 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.960 grasped it properly. I would add I think that's largely 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.680 been true for forty five years, forty seven years. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.160 I think it has been. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.840 The hardest of the hardcore that's been driving this with 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.800 a theocratic of an ear that's now been shed because 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.199 the Ietola's demise, and so. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.080 You now can see that these are the hardened warriors. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.080 But it also suggests, and I think this is important 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.160 as you try to figure out how do you resolve this, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.160 is there aren't any moderates. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.040 So even the President and the Speaker of. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:13:00.280 The House Golibof, who met with Vice President bands these 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.680 aren't moderates in the sense that we would understand people 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.120 who don't want to destroy the nation of Israel, who 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.760 aren't trying to create a caliphate. They believe all the 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.959 same things that the radicals do. There are methodologies they're 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.640 timing may be different, but there is not a leader 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.800 inside of Iran that doesn't believe that the Islamic Republic 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.120 of Iran is entitled to rule the Middle East and 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.080 that Israel has no place in the region. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:27.480 So if the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, which has over the 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.240 last several decades become one of the most powerful influential 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:37.080 institutions in Iran militarily, politically, and economically, and the ideology 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:41.839 runs deep within that, it's driven by ideology, there's nothing 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.800 no matter who's leading it, the ideology remains the same. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.160 So that ideology, as you just laid out, does not 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.280 allow for Israel to exist. It doesn't allow for anything 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.640 other than this radical ideology to march forward. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.000 Yeah, that's the conundrum that President Trump, and frankly every 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.000 president before him who's confronted this, including when I was 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.120 a Secretary of State in President Trump's first term. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:08.439 This is the conundrum. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.720 There is no negotiated solution that actually gets to a 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.360 place where the regime will acknowledge Israel's right to exist, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.880 that the United States should exist, and that the Iranian 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.080 regime should not be in possession of a nuclear cape 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.280 of weapons capability. Just there's no one there that's prepared 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.040 to actually make that statement and that commitment and then 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.920 live up to it. So what does that mean. That 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.400 means that President Trump is on the right track. I'm 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:35.080 glad you mentioned the IERGC is a powerful, capable military. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:36.480 We've taken out much of that. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.280 They are important politically that as they have the guns inside, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.960 they have capacity to control the populace. But they're also 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.920 an economic juggernaut. They own as much as one fifth 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.560 or one third of the Iranian economy, and so there 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:49.760 are places to put pressure. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.880 Ever on the IERGZ. There's pressure. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.480 The blockage of the Strait of Hormuz is certainly impacting 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:59.040 their revenue, their ability to pay their soldiers, the proxy forces. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.960 They are going to have to have an enormous amount 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.680 of pressure applied to them before they will exceed. And 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.760 that's not an agreement, that's not a negotiated solution, Tony. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.600 It will feel to them and I think look to 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.920 the world like a surrender, like post World War two surrender, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.240 where they just said you win, we lose, give us 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.360 your terms and we will abide by them. I think 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.160 that's how this ultimately ends up being resolved. And that 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.240 means more time, a little bit more patience by the 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.640 American people, some more costs to the American consumers, for sure, 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.880 But this is a resolve that I think is really 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.440 important for a Western civilization to achieve. This is an 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.640 objective that matters not just in Iran but even more broadly. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.600 But back to that ideology, does it allow them to surrender? 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.720 You know, this is a difficult question in the end. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.080 Remember the Iatola said that he would drink from the 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.720 poison chalice. So they will say, well, we're surrendering, but 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.880 they will view it as temporal. You're right, so long 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.880 as the reshim is in power, they may pause for 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.800 two years or five years or ten, but their determination 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.080 will remain. And so from a Western perspective, the objective 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:07.000 is to get wipe out their capability materially, get a 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.000 verification regime around their nuclear program so that there's no enrichment, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.520 no capacity to actually ever threaten the world again with 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.960 a nuclear weapon, and then be mindful. So long as 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.880 these folks are in power, someday they will come back 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.800 at this again, right. The Germans came back at it 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.120 after World War after World War One. These guys, as 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.160 long as they empower, they'll come back at it again 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.840 as well, Tony. But we will have demonstrated the dominance 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.520 that will make that decision a very difficult one for. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.800 Them, mister Secretary, Is it possible, with as you pointed out, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.440 the economic pressure being applied in the blockade that the 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.080 United States is currently involved in with the Iranian ports 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.720 in the Strait of horm Moves, is it possible that 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:53.360 that economic stranglehold on their economy could destabilize the Revolutionary Guard, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:59.560 allowing the public to possibly be the force that overturns 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:00.440 the Guard. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.600 Tony, It is possible. 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.680 I don't think that's the most likely outcome, but it's 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:06.840 the one that we should. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:08.959 Support and pray and root for. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.359 So that would be the ultimate good, that would be 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.080 the that'd be the first best outcome that you could 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:15.959 possibly achieve. 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:17.320 And it's not as zero. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.640 Probably event it's happened in history before, but it shouldn't 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.639 be the one that we're counting on. It shouldn't be 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.320 the one that we're saying, quote, we have to get 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:25.800 that in order for us to have. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.080 Achieved our objectives of. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.520 Eliminating the threat from the Iranian regime for a period 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.240 of time and having restored to terrence. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.000 Those can be achieved even if you can't get to. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.280 That ultimate resolution, which would be a blessing for the 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.000 Iranian people and for the Gulf Arab States, and certainly 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:42.640 for Israel in the United States as well. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:44.880 We just have a couple of minutes to laugh, Secretary 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:45.280 of POMPEII. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:50.760 I want to shift gears to Israel. We focus on 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:55.359 Iran and that stalemate there. There have been some major 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.120 reshuffling of the geopolitical deck in the Middle East. Now 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:03.080 we have conversations between Israel and Lebanon. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:04.960 We've got to ceasefire there. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.480 We've got the possibility of an extended relationship. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.200 How significant is that. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.480 It's a game changer, Tony, if we can really pull 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.320 it off, and pulling it off will mean working the Israelis, 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.399 the Lebanese government, the Lebanese armed forces, with support of 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.040 the United States to disarm has Belah, because that's. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.560 What it'll take in the same way. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.840 To get a good resolution in Gaza will take the 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.479 full disarmament of Hamas if we can get that as 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.160 a complete game changer for the region. And by the way, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.240 it's so great to know, right the Gulf Air up 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.000 states are rooting for this just as hard as the 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.959 Israelis are. There is unanimity outside of Iran and outside 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.080 of Hesbelahamas. There's unanimity about what the right path forward is. 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.600 I hope too alongside that Tony, the new leader in 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.280 Syria Ashara understands that that has to be the model 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.760 to take Damascus in Syria can't be a model that 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.640 reverts to something that looks more like terrorism to terrorism 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.560 that al Shara had engaged in for most of his 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.439 adult life. If you can circle that, if you can 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.320 get that the levant right, if you can get Syria, Lebanon, 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.520 Israel all pulling for the same resolution for peace and stability, 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.720 you will have delivered for the world an amazing thing. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.359 In President Trump, I think has a real opportunity to. 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.359 Pull all of that off. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.360 Just a minute left, miss Secretary. A lot of that's 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.639 driven by economics. I mean, they want a stable economic 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.119 trade in that region because as they have been leaning 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.680 upon oil. I think they're finding there's more beyond oil 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.600 in the international community. 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.720 Yes, Tony, it turns on two things, economics and security. 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.760 Israel is a great security partner and a phenomenal partner 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.880 to have as part of your economy. So I think 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.840 that's absolutely right. What is driving this is access to 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.240 Israeli and Western technology, the full acknowledgment that the silliness 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.240 of what they've done for decades, which is not acknowledging 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.280 Israel's fundamental right to exist that has been ripped bear. 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.560 And if you can take the head off the snake 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.000 in Tehran, you can deliver each of those things and 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.080 it will be a blessing for everyone who lives. 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:06.399 In the region. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:11.160 It's quite significant, a very significant moment. Secretary Mike Pompeo. 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.000 Always great to see you, my friend. Thanks for joining 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:13.520 us today. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:15.600 Thank you, Tony, bless you have a great rest of 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:15.960 your day. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.080 All right, you too, all right, still to com We're 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.040 going to be joined by the House Speaker. But next 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.720 a major report out of the Department of Justice. We 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:23.600 talk about it next. 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:24.119 Don't go away. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:33.320 Scammers are stealing billions of dollars from America's seniors, and 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.400 they're ramping up their efforts. With calls, texts, or clicks. 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.160 They can steal a senior's entire life savings. But we 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:45.040 have the power to stop these criminals. 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