Speaker 1: Life Audio.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the Out of Zion podcast, and I'm
Speaker 2: your host, doctor Susan Michael, and I'm just so thrilled
Speaker 2: to have with me today a dear friend and college
Speaker 2: Joel Rosenberg. You know, Joel, I have to list all
Speaker 2: of your titles and accomplishments.
Speaker 1: You are amazing. No failed political consultant. I think you
Speaker 1: just lead with that one. It pretty much solves everything.
Speaker 1: Everyone I ever worked for in Washington didn't go anywhere,
Speaker 1: or at least not with me.
Speaker 2: All right, failed there, But you are a New York
Speaker 2: Times best selling author and you blow me away. How
Speaker 2: you're able to do these books and do all of
Speaker 2: this writing, It's phenomenon and that's really opened a lot
Speaker 2: of doors for you with us. Secondly, you are president
Speaker 2: of the Joshua Fund, which is doing amazing things.
Speaker 1: And then thirdly you are.
Speaker 2: The CEO editor in chief of All Israel News and
Speaker 2: All Arab News. I don't know how how you do it.
Speaker 1: I had great teams. You must take a lot of itemins. Well, right,
Speaker 1: that's not yeah, I need more.
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Speaker 1: But no, when you have a vision of what God
Speaker 1: tells us to do, you have to build out teams.
Speaker 1: I can't find these things by myself. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I have things that I'm good at and things like that.
Speaker 1: There's people it's fun to it's fun for me to
Speaker 1: prayerfully recruit and then deploy people who are just passionate
Speaker 1: about it. It's the same thing. I mean, you're you've
Speaker 1: got so much going on the embassy and aci if
Speaker 1: you didn't have a good team, then it all rests
Speaker 1: on you, right and your energy, your bandwidth, your your vision,
Speaker 1: and you know I don't do that. You don't do that,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, well, you know we've interviewed you before
Speaker 1: and you talk. That's why I'm surprised that you have
Speaker 1: me back like you missed of have amnesia with how
Speaker 1: badly that interview went. I don't know what, but no,
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 2: Interview, you talked about your family, you're growing up, in
Speaker 2: your background.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 2: So I want to encourage our listeners to find that
Speaker 2: previous interview and.
Speaker 1: We could clip. We'll link to it in today's show notes.
Speaker 2: But today I want to talk you know, i'd like
Speaker 2: to talk about all Israel News. If you are providing
Speaker 2: such a service to the Body of Christ worldwide by
Speaker 2: covering the news of what's going on in Israel in
Speaker 2: the Middle East, and you know, we have such a
Speaker 2: crisis in the world today. We can't trust media. We
Speaker 2: can't trust even videos. You can't trust what you read,
Speaker 2: what you see because you don't know what's AI generated
Speaker 2: or what's been doctored, or what's just a blatant lie
Speaker 2: that's been circulating online. And so we're all looking for
Speaker 2: those trusted sources, and especially our young people, they are
Speaker 2: looking for those that they can trust. And you were that.
Speaker 1: You were there.
Speaker 2: Headquartered in Jerusalem, and so tell us how you started
Speaker 2: this and what you've seen the service at its.
Speaker 1: Provis Sure, well, a wonderful Israeli Jewish believing brother came
Speaker 1: to me with an idea that I didn't have. This
Speaker 1: is not my idea, and he said, I think we
Speaker 1: should create a daily digital news site run by Israeli
Speaker 1: Flowers or Jesus for evangelicals worldwide in English, at least
Speaker 1: at the beginning, to cover what isn't getting covered or
Speaker 1: covered well, you know. And at first I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's a great idea. Somebody should do that.
Speaker 1: But I don't have the bandwidth to do this, Like
Speaker 1: I just don't have the time or energy. But you know,
Speaker 1: God bless you. You know, stay warm and be well fed.
Speaker 1: You know, No, I mean, you should, you should do this.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't sleep. I kept praying about it, and
Speaker 1: I thought, I think, I think maybe he's right. So
Speaker 1: why because I could either have an aneurysm every day
Speaker 1: at my fury at CNN, the New York Times, BBC,
Speaker 1: certainly Al Jazeera, but so many others. You're like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, the Washington Post, which just God bless him,
Speaker 1: just had to lay off a third of their entire
Speaker 1: news department and all of their Middle East journalists because
Speaker 1: they're the horrible But they're also losing one hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars a year and you're like, that's crazy. So the
Speaker 1: idea was you could either have an aneurysm, get angry
Speaker 1: all the time, or think, you know what, Yes, big
Speaker 1: media is Goliath, but we know how that story works.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be Goliath to win. You can
Speaker 1: be David with five stones and you only use one.
Speaker 1: So okay, maybe we could Maybe we should channel our
Speaker 1: energies into doing something different. Now I call this. I
Speaker 1: tell the staff well built over the last five years
Speaker 1: or so, I want you to follow the George Costanza
Speaker 1: doctrine of journalism. Now, those of your audience that are
Speaker 1: Seinfeld fans George, or maybe they don't know George Seinfeld
Speaker 1: or George Cassandra is the idiot moron friend of Jerry
Speaker 1: Seinfeld in the famous show and George one day slumps
Speaker 1: down in the in the booth at the coffee shop
Speaker 1: where they mean he goes, every decision I've ever made
Speaker 1: in my entire life has been wrong, and that's why
Speaker 1: he's alot. And so Jerry says, well, George, if every
Speaker 1: decision you've ever made is wrong, then the opposite would
Speaker 1: have to be right. Now, that's voodoo. Fortune Cookie is like,
Speaker 1: it's kind of you can't really, but in the show,
Speaker 1: that particular show, he makes every decision opposite of his instincts.
Speaker 1: He gets the girl and he gets a job of
Speaker 1: the New York Yankees, and everything works out well. If
Speaker 1: I see, folks, I don't want you, as young and
Speaker 1: emerging journalists, to focus on traffic. I beg you do
Speaker 1: not think about your impact. I want you to think
Speaker 1: about credibility. Credibility, credibility. Those are the free things you
Speaker 1: would think about every day. And everything that you hate
Speaker 1: about the meat, do the opposites give you an example?
Speaker 1: Wonder So we started in September September one, twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: all visual news. So this is COVID, this is like,
Speaker 1: this is church is being shut down, This is George Floyd,
Speaker 1: this is raised Riots, this is Trump and Biden Lake
Speaker 1: or Hillary whatever was then. No Christian was focusing on
Speaker 1: histort and the good news was the Abraham of course,
Speaker 1: just that was the first story we covered. Mike Pence
Speaker 1: was a friend of mine. Is Remains He invited me
Speaker 1: to cover it on them all on the way house
Speaker 1: ding and choosing okay, wonderful, No Christians. As you remember,
Speaker 1: I love Israel, were focused on any of these things,
Speaker 1: good pieces breaking out because America is on the edge
Speaker 1: of going, you know, blowing up. So that's when we started.
Speaker 1: I had time to raise money, bad time, focus on israp.
Speaker 1: But we did it because God told us to do it.
Speaker 1: Long story short. Give you an example. During the after
Speaker 1: October seventh, right, So the New York Times published the
Speaker 1: story eight. The headline was eight, all eight columns, top
Speaker 1: of the folds, lasting Israel bombs, passing hospital and cost
Speaker 1: And it's the New York Times, right, so they have
Speaker 1: all this brand, equity, trust, and every immediate outlet on
Speaker 1: the planet goes with the store. I said, well, guys, hold, hold,
Speaker 1: you're not this this is the lead of every isaac.
Speaker 1: There's something wrong about the story. Now, mae, if Israel
Speaker 1: did it, we will report it. We are not. This
Speaker 1: is not Hasbarah, this is not Hebrew four. We're not
Speaker 1: doing public relations. It's not propagand this is not propa game.
Speaker 1: But this is this is journalism. But we don't start
Speaker 1: from Israel's evil and let's burn it now. Right We're
Speaker 1: not you know, right, we're not. So so let's just
Speaker 1: you know at that point nine am in Israel. You
Speaker 1: know that's early. It's late at night, in the early
Speaker 1: the middle of the morning here. So okay, that's what
Speaker 1: the New York Times is doing. But let's just give
Speaker 1: the idea of a little time, let's talk to them,
Speaker 1: let's see what do they what do you have? Did
Speaker 1: you do it? And within an hour or two, right,
Speaker 1: it was already video of it's a failed house in
Speaker 1: and missile that went up, failed, laid it on the hospital,
Speaker 1: you can see it. Then they start sending us uh
Speaker 1: intercepts of ballast in hamas terras going did we do that?
Speaker 1: Did Israel do that? Oh? No, that was us? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, how well we got to tell them it
Speaker 1: was them, and and pretty soon you did all this death.
Speaker 1: So this is what we win. By the time, so
Speaker 1: four o' cock in the afternoon in Israel is nine
Speaker 1: am in the East coast United States. By the time
Speaker 1: we had the story, most people were waking up to
Speaker 1: the truth. But they weren't getting it from the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: They were getting it from all initial neighbors. There's just
Speaker 1: one example of just doing it of don't run. New
Speaker 1: York Times has a brand of trust. I don't trust
Speaker 1: them anymore. I'm not We're not leading. If they do
Speaker 1: something interesting, we'll we'll look into it. I'm not. These
Speaker 1: guys are taking death tolls and saying palace it in
Speaker 1: health officials in Kaza. This is this like getting in health,
Speaker 1: This is like getting death poll numbers from the Nazis.
Speaker 1: In the middle of World War two more Jews died today.
Speaker 1: We don't know why you're the ones killing them? What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? So so many Christians are so angry,
Speaker 1: and so we saw our traffic go from BA zero
Speaker 1: day one almost to thirty five million last year at
Speaker 1: the peak of the war, sixty nine million. Now we
Speaker 1: are not where we should be, but wow, we're moving
Speaker 1: in the radiations. People are finding us right well.
Speaker 2: I hope that all of our listening audience will find
Speaker 2: you now if they hadn't already. But you know, you're
Speaker 2: so privileged to be there where you're getting those original
Speaker 2: sources of information and analysis. You know what Israel this
Speaker 2: are saying, how they're seeing things. Where do you think
Speaker 2: Israel's going from here?
Speaker 1: Do you what kind of future you know?
Speaker 2: I just I had a Jewish person this week asked
Speaker 2: me you know you've been at this a long time.
Speaker 2: She said, where do you see it going? Are you
Speaker 2: at all optimistic? I mean they're looking for a ray
Speaker 2: of hope, So where do you see that Israel's go.
Speaker 1: Man, that's a great question, and let me break it
Speaker 1: into a couple pieces. I'll say everybody that works on
Speaker 1: our team are either even Jelic Forroprissians or Messianic believers.
Speaker 1: Most are Israelis. We have some Arabs that work on us,
Speaker 1: either directly or or a stringers and things. So we
Speaker 1: are trying to also cover the church, you know, within
Speaker 1: the So the reason is important is ultimately spiritually, we
Speaker 1: know we're heading towards Romans eleven twenty six. All Israel
Speaker 1: could say we're nowhere near that. There's maybe twenty to
Speaker 1: thirty thousand Jewish fall because Jesus and all of Israel
Speaker 1: depending there's two different studies, so like that's not got many.
Speaker 1: Well it's better than twenty three in nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 1: So we're moving. But in a nation of ten million people,
Speaker 1: seven million Jews seven and a half, that's not nearly enough.
Speaker 1: But we are. So we are covering what God is
Speaker 1: doing in the country as well. As the region, not
Speaker 1: just geopolitically. And I would say there's there's hard bias,
Speaker 1: like you know, the ed or hates you, the producer
Speaker 1: hates you, and they are not trying to tell the truth.
Speaker 1: There's war, there's Al Jazeera, Iran Intelevision, Turkish elves. But
Speaker 1: there's also a soft bias in the media where they
Speaker 1: don't know what they're looking for. They don't know how
Speaker 1: to cover the church. And if it's the church to them,
Speaker 1: that's the Roman Catholic Church, which most even joggles like
Speaker 1: that's interesting, but that's not what that's not what we
Speaker 1: want to know. What's God doing in this land? So
Speaker 1: covering that side is a big part because that's where
Speaker 1: we're heading. We're heading towards a nation that's been traumatized
Speaker 1: over two and a half years of hellish war. But
Speaker 1: are sure as people are open to the Bible to
Speaker 1: more people in the idea app are reading the Bible,
Speaker 1: not the New Testament admittedly, but they're reading the Bible.
Speaker 1: They're singing songs of the Psalms before they go into
Speaker 1: Gaza or wherever. So that's a spiritual element of where
Speaker 1: we're going. It's also not getting covered by almost anybody
Speaker 1: in the media in Israel, even the good media. That's
Speaker 1: one thing. The other thing is when there are challenges
Speaker 1: inside the church, right, so God is building Jesus, i'm
Speaker 1: I will build my church and the gates of Hell
Speaker 1: will not prevail against it. Nobody's covering it. It's still
Speaker 1: he's still doing it. But I'll give you one example.
Speaker 1: We broke the story a couple of years ago that
Speaker 1: too alto Orthodox Uh legislators decided to put in a
Speaker 1: bill that said you can't tell people about Jesus or
Speaker 1: you'll go to prison. In Israel. We broke that story.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a story go viral that fast. It
Speaker 1: just went global and we weren't being hostile. We were
Speaker 1: just reporting this. We hadn't even gotten into analysis. This
Speaker 1: just broke the story. Within seventy two hours, net Nyahu
Speaker 1: had put out a statement, I will never let that pass,
Speaker 1: and there was over that's not us, that's God, but
Speaker 1: he's but he uses people. So that's one thing of cover.
Speaker 1: There was a pass in pastor who got thrown into
Speaker 1: prison because he he welcomed in Israeli and some evangelibals
Speaker 1: just to visit him, and that got in the pals
Speaker 1: in authority there, and then we were told by some
Speaker 1: palising Christians, don't don't not report that fleet. We're gonna
Speaker 1: it's too you know, if you're a you're in Israeli,
Speaker 1: it's not helpful if you report it. So okay that
Speaker 1: that's a tension between journalism and but being a believer.
Speaker 1: But we're believers first, so we didn't pepper. But after
Speaker 1: forty days, this guy was not getting out everything. They
Speaker 1: tried behind the scenes wordwork. So finally they set several
Speaker 1: pass in Christians leadership on your all Arab news site,
Speaker 1: would you would you cover what's happening? So we did,
Speaker 1: and what we did as an open letter to pass
Speaker 1: in authority Chairman Mahmuda Bash and we said, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if you know this, mister president, but uh,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening. It's not right. It turned out
Speaker 1: that it passed in businessman various successful paths in This
Speaker 1: man was following me on X saw that article, clicked
Speaker 1: on the article read the whole thing, was moved by it,
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to us, printed it out and went to the
Speaker 1: palace in Romaga and said, President of Bass, this is
Speaker 1: not good and if Joel and his team are reporting
Speaker 1: it today, others are gonna be reporting tomorrow. We have
Speaker 1: enough problems. We don't need this one too. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: let this guy out. He didn't do anything wrong, and
Speaker 1: within forty eight hours he was released. This is God,
Speaker 1: but God uses faded people. So that's the There's geopolitical
Speaker 1: side too, we can talk about too, But just in
Speaker 1: terms of covering is what's happening? How do we pray
Speaker 1: for our brothers and sisters in all of the region.
Speaker 1: What is really happening. I still can't tell you many
Speaker 1: sources that I would news sources I would that exists
Speaker 1: that would report this type of information.
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Speaker 2: Well, you and I were just chatting earlier about out
Speaker 2: that after let's talk about the jail. Political, after Israel
Speaker 2: has gone through this two and a half years of
Speaker 2: really tough tire, You're optimistic about the future.
Speaker 1: Which is ironic because I'm a Russian Jew on my
Speaker 1: father's side, so that means I'm a pessimist. Bad things
Speaker 1: happen to the Russian Jews. We're all like bad glass
Speaker 1: is not just half empty, it is cracked and leaking.
Speaker 1: That's how we see the world naturally now in the spirit,
Speaker 1: with a good gentile spirit, filled with wife. It helped me, okay,
Speaker 1: But yes, I actually am quite bullish on where we are.
Speaker 1: It's been a horrible two and a half years and
Speaker 1: Len and I and our teams have lived through it.
Speaker 1: We've covered it, We've gone We've seen missiles launching while
Speaker 1: we're either delivering delivering humanagement relief for the Joshua Fund
Speaker 1: or going to and going to cover something for all
Speaker 1: Israel News. So it has been just the craziest world.
Speaker 1: This is the world that I write about in my
Speaker 1: political thrillers. I make it up. But the last three
Speaker 1: years of not you know, beyond fiction. But I'm actually
Speaker 1: I am optimistic. I am bullish about where Israel's go.
Speaker 1: I Israel has, by the grace of God and the
Speaker 1: hard work and courage of our soldiers and intelligence services,
Speaker 1: has decimated the Iranian regime's capacity to destroy US, has
Speaker 1: Bona's capacity to destroy us Hamas. I mean, there's not
Speaker 1: it's not that there's a little bit more to be done.
Speaker 1: On all fronts. But we are not living in the
Speaker 1: same world that we were two and a half years ago.
Speaker 1: And I believe that in six months to a year,
Speaker 1: everybody in the world is going to see Israel as
Speaker 1: the soup of power, bar none of any country in
Speaker 1: the Middle East security. I think the prosperity. I think
Speaker 1: money is going to flow into Israel, venture capital and
Speaker 1: and other I think that it's going to be and
Speaker 1: I think tourists, Christian tourists are going to flow. I
Speaker 1: think that ministries are going to come and say, Wow,
Speaker 1: what's happening, how do we be how do we help?
Speaker 1: I think I think the world is going to come
Speaker 1: into Israel. And yes there are I believe maybe outside
Speaker 1: of the scope of this podcast, but there are other
Speaker 1: horrible prophetic things that are coming. But I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna be going into a stretch. I think of years,
Speaker 1: possibly of decades, where people are not thinking of the
Speaker 1: Middle East as they're insane Susan, why would you take
Speaker 1: people there Israel? I'm not going to there. There's missiles
Speaker 1: flying and terrorists and suicide bombers. That is not the
Speaker 1: world we're about to head into. And so rethinking every
Speaker 1: ministry we will still have anti Semitism to deal with
Speaker 1: and anti Israelism. As Israel is more successful, that the
Speaker 1: anti Israelism is gonna get worse in certain quarters because
Speaker 1: people like Tucker Carlston and kanas Owanns are gonna be
Speaker 1: their heads are gonna be swiveling on their access and
Speaker 1: their eyes are gonna explode. They're like, the very country
Speaker 1: we hate is winning, its succeeding. Patricians who know what
Speaker 1: where God is taking Israel will be well, we're part
Speaker 1: of the reason it's going well as hard as it
Speaker 1: has been, because we're praying and we're helping and out
Speaker 1: of latsing Israel, and He's blessing us as we busses
Speaker 1: as he promised.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, after October the seventh, there was a
Speaker 2: Christian minister in America, a big name, and he made
Speaker 2: the comment that the reason Hamas attacked Israel was allowed
Speaker 2: to attack Israel by God is because the Jews had
Speaker 2: rejected Jesus. And it's so painful, yeah, yeah, yeah, so painful.
Speaker 2: But what a lot of us lose because we're you know,
Speaker 2: you're in the news cycle and you just see one
Speaker 2: bad thing after the other. You don't we need your
Speaker 2: help to do that analysis, to help me connect the dots,
Speaker 2: to put it into perspective. And only recently did I
Speaker 2: come to the realization that it was actually the Hamas
Speaker 2: attack on October seventh that saved Israel from destruction, because
Speaker 2: they were supposed to have done unaffordinated attack with Hezbillah
Speaker 2: and Iran, so their ground incursion was to be met
Speaker 2: with missiles from Lebanon and from Iran.
Speaker 1: And a native ground invasion from the north and from
Speaker 1: the north, yes, grounded, which had been planned actually years publicly,
Speaker 1: and it would.
Speaker 2: Have destroyed Israel in a day. But because Hamas goes
Speaker 2: out on their own and attacks, the other two kind
Speaker 2: of got mad and didn't really come to their rescue,
Speaker 2: and the fordinated plan didn't happen, and this saved Israel
Speaker 2: from destruction, and instead they have had victory over every
Speaker 2: one of those enemies on seven fronts. Now the enemy
Speaker 2: still exists, that's the danger. They will try to re arm.
Speaker 2: They will try to do it again one day, but
Speaker 2: Israel has so pushed that scenario for far away, as
Speaker 2: you said, and now with a political realignment in the
Speaker 2: Middle East, when they see israel strength they're drawn to
Speaker 2: that strength. And this is another misunderstanding in America. We
Speaker 2: sit here, we live in peace in America. We don't
Speaker 2: have an enemy on our border. We certainly don't have
Speaker 2: an enemy within forty miles.
Speaker 1: Well, thank god President Trump sealed that border. We had.
Speaker 1: They were kinds of millions of people that we only
Speaker 1: know who they are. But yeah, but yes, in terms
Speaker 1: of either China on our border or having Russia on
Speaker 1: our border in North Korea. Yeah, and even if we.
Speaker 2: Did, they're not forty miles from our home, right. So,
Speaker 2: and we don't understand that. In the Middle East, there's
Speaker 2: a whole different language that is spoken, and it's the
Speaker 2: language you must be strong. You must be strong or
Speaker 2: else if they'll c was weak and then they'll pounce
Speaker 2: on you. It's a mentality we just don't understand in America.
Speaker 2: But Israel does. And so when they are attacked, they
Speaker 2: come against it and they try to defeat their enemy.
Speaker 2: And today's Christianity, there's a lot of pacifism. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of well, we need to be weak, humble, right,
Speaker 2: and loving, and yes we should in our everyday lives.
Speaker 2: But the New Testament also says that our government has
Speaker 2: the responsibility of taking up the sword against evil, and
Speaker 2: Israel is doing that. They're taking up the sword against
Speaker 2: the evil against their people. And I do believe what
Speaker 2: you just said that we're headed into a season where
Speaker 2: Israel's going to be strong, and that's going to realign
Speaker 2: politically in the Middle East, and there's the potential for
Speaker 2: a season of peace and prosperity in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: So we just so appreciate all israel moves.
Speaker 1: And you're being you're writing for us, you know, may
Speaker 1: you're tribing free. So I want to see more from you,
Speaker 1: more from your team. These you guys are already doing
Speaker 1: such a great job educating Christians worldwide. And what we've
Speaker 1: never really had Right here, you and I are sitting
Speaker 1: at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention in Nashville, And it's interesting,
Speaker 1: Right after almost eight decades of Israel modern prophetic, biblical, wonderful, growing, thriving,
Speaker 1: but under challenge, Israel, how is it possible there's never
Speaker 1: been an actual Israeli media organization run by believers to
Speaker 1: help believers around the world. Know, yes, I'm praying for
Speaker 1: the piece of Jerusalem, but today what's going on today
Speaker 1: that I ought to be praying about. You know, praying
Speaker 1: generally is wonderful, and you guys do that, but you've
Speaker 1: never even had an or there's never been a news
Speaker 1: organization that would like specifically cover all like now, I
Speaker 1: should say it's very important. CBN News runs one of
Speaker 1: the best, but they're doing broadcasts, they're not trying to
Speaker 1: do daily digital a little bit more than they used to,
Speaker 1: but they're doing television and Chris Mitchell's but it's bar
Speaker 1: none the best journalist that there's there. But you like,
Speaker 1: even the icej events, the feast and everything else, it's
Speaker 1: amazing how hard it is to get Israeli coverage of
Speaker 1: those things. Much less American or European than never have
Speaker 1: a tye. So you have to be your own media arms,
Speaker 1: and you guys do a good job of it. Whi's interesting,
Speaker 1: is I just feel like it's this is this is
Speaker 1: this has been a gap somehow God never created until
Speaker 1: now an actual Israeli media arm that would cover the
Speaker 1: ministries as well as cover the region. And well, we
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And we appreciate our partnership. So before we close, let's
Speaker 2: talk about our upcoming partnership. Yeah, you're doing a big
Speaker 2: event in Jerusalem called the Epicenters, So please tell us about.
Speaker 1: It and where we'll sure April seventh, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: So from the time and you and I are recording this,
Speaker 1: maybe about fourteen months from now right, we're going to
Speaker 1: host what's called an Epicenter Summit. I use the term
Speaker 1: epicenter that Israel is at the epicenter of the world.
Speaker 1: Jerusalems at the epicenter of Israel, the Temple mountains, at
Speaker 1: the eub center of Jerusalem. That this is where you know,
Speaker 1: God's plan and purpose. The Gospel goes out from there
Speaker 1: so forth. So we're going to do a three thousand
Speaker 1: Christians from all over the world, Lord willing, including wonderful
Speaker 1: people from Ic ej from countries all over the world
Speaker 1: that you guys work in coming now. The summit is
Speaker 1: only one day. President Hertzog will be a keynote speaker,
Speaker 1: and Bastor Mike kackab be a keynote speaker, and then
Speaker 1: other wonderful trusted Godly Bible teachers who love and get
Speaker 1: Israel and the neighbors. We have our love and compassion
Speaker 1: for the neighbors and Graham lots. Greg Lowie's skip Heights,
Speaker 1: Jack Graham of the former president of Southern Baptists and
Speaker 1: who's megachurch pastor in Dallas. These are the main keynotes.
Speaker 1: There will be some other speakers, but the goal is
Speaker 1: a one day catalytic event. You know, where Christian churition
Speaker 1: is pretty much dead. There's been Filidvarian emissions, You've led
Speaker 1: some of them. There's there's delegations Christians and Jews are doing,
Speaker 1: but in the grand scheme where it's like almost nothing
Speaker 1: in terms of a Christians coming. So we're trying to
Speaker 1: use this as a catalyst. So people say, all right,
Speaker 1: so joshuall fund our ministry. We'll definitely and all those rooms,
Speaker 1: we'll definitely do a tour, right, But we're encouraging you
Speaker 1: and we're encouraging all kinds of other ministries. Design your
Speaker 1: own tour. Maybe it's just one boss, maybe it's just
Speaker 1: a pastor on a few members of his team. Donors,
Speaker 1: funday school teachers, whatever, Plan your trip that's going to
Speaker 1: accomplish your ministry's objectives, and then buy tickets to just
Speaker 1: come to the one day of the conference. I think
Speaker 1: it will be the amazing conference that will help educate
Speaker 1: and mobilize Christians to go back all over the world
Speaker 1: to understand what the dynamic. Then where are we then?
Speaker 1: Where what is the what are the issues that we
Speaker 1: need to help people be better educated? Then can barely
Speaker 1: plan them now. But you can see with Tucker and
Speaker 1: Candace and everybody attacking, we're gonna have to do stuff
Speaker 1: next year that we hadn't even thought of a year ago.
Speaker 1: So all that to say, we don't want We're not
Speaker 1: trying to run a tour of three thousand Persians in
Speaker 1: all Israel News and the Joshua. We're going to do
Speaker 1: our role. We'll host the conference and then we're trying
Speaker 1: to get and encourage pastors and mystery leaders. Now plan
Speaker 1: now and start planning to bring people and let people
Speaker 1: start saving so they have a year or so. That's
Speaker 1: the trip of a lifetime. That's where I want to be.
Speaker 1: And we're not doing a conference for more than the summit,
Speaker 1: more than a day, because when you get to Israel,
Speaker 1: you mostly want to go see Israel. But I think
Speaker 1: it is important sometimes to do an event like this. Well.
Speaker 2: We look forward to being there for the epicenter and
Speaker 2: to our listening audience. If you mark your calendars now
Speaker 2: be in touch with the ic EJUSA office and we'll
Speaker 2: keep you informed on travel opportunities and details on the
Speaker 2: upcoming Epicenter summits in April of twenty twenty seven. So Joel,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for being with.
Speaker 1: You on some deal with Joel, and.
Speaker 2: We so appreciate you, and I thank you all for
Speaker 2: listening in and please visit the show notes where we'll
Speaker 2: link to Joel's all Israel news and his ministry. God
Speaker 2: bless hey, just give me one more minute. I want
Speaker 2: to offer you one of our free resources. We have
Speaker 2: wonderful resources in our show notes and if you go
Speaker 2: to our website at ICEJUSA dot org slash show notes,
Speaker 2: you'll find links for a number of our free offers.
Speaker 2: We have downloadables to help root you in scripture, help
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