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Speaker 1: Today, we go long form in person with comedian Jeff Dye,
Speaker 1: who I think is one of the most interesting voices
Speaker 1: in comedy. He's already a huge name, but these are
Speaker 1: like a million followers some of the social media platforms,
Speaker 1: and he's only going to get bigger because he's got it.
Speaker 1: He's got a little thing I like to call it.
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Speaker 1: You will enjoy this one. That's today's show, all right,
Speaker 1: Comedian Jeff did really nice to meet you. Yourself is
Speaker 1: all over my Instagram. Thanks you. Apparently my brain likes
Speaker 1: your stuff because Mark Zuckerberg is sending you a lot
Speaker 1: of my sending a lot of your content to me,
Speaker 1: and it's fantastic.
Speaker 3: And thank you.
Speaker 1: You're someone who you're out here in LA and you
Speaker 1: just find yourself all of a sudden, one day you
Speaker 1: woke up and you realize you were one of us politically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's a I want to hear your trajectory come
Speaker 1: from Seattle. So we I'm an LA guy, I was
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area for a long time. We both
Speaker 1: like nice coffees. I'm sure we'll get into that. And
Speaker 1: then yet it feels like we're looking around here and
Speaker 1: everyone else is completely crazy, and you find yourself here
Speaker 1: working with Prager, you doing conservative podcasts.
Speaker 3: Give me some of the arc.
Speaker 4: Well, I will say that I've said this plenty of
Speaker 4: times that the party changed.
Speaker 3: Being a Democrat changed, That's what changed.
Speaker 4: Was Like I'm a two thousand and one liberal, which
Speaker 4: is just a Republican now, which in this town is
Speaker 4: a Nazi.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4: Like that's that's kind of like to just stay committed
Speaker 4: to your political parties no matter how much it's evolved,
Speaker 4: is more of a statement of the person. Yeah, it's like, wait,
Speaker 4: you've adopted all these ideas as your party's changed. Like
Speaker 4: when I was in Seattle, big Pharma, you would never
Speaker 4: have agreed with vaccines in big farm. It was almost
Speaker 4: like this hippie kind of democratic thing to be like,
Speaker 4: we don't trust these giant corporations like Johnson and Johnson
Speaker 4: and Pfizer. And then jump cut to twenty twenty and
Speaker 4: everyone's like, you don't trust Pfiser?
Speaker 3: What are you?
Speaker 4: A Republican? You're like, how did this get conflated? So
Speaker 4: the party has changed. And also I have gotten older
Speaker 4: and grown up a little bit, so I'm not as
Speaker 4: naive as a young liberal Jeff was, is all. And
Speaker 4: so I started in Seattle doing comedy, and I've always
Speaker 4: been a Christian. I've always been a pretty conservative guy.
Speaker 4: I am a straight white male, but I'm very I
Speaker 4: am very to each their own guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I just want everyone to get along. I want everyone
Speaker 4: to like me. And so when I was in Seattle,
Speaker 4: I would kind of hide my Jesus views or I
Speaker 4: would hide my conservative ideas in the interest of just
Speaker 4: trying to get along. I just want everyone to get along.
Speaker 4: And then I moved to Los Angeles. I was still
Speaker 4: kind of doing that, but then when COVID happened is
Speaker 4: when I was like, I'm not doing this anymore. Too
Speaker 4: many things were happening at once. Black Lives Matter was
Speaker 4: gaslighting the entire earth, COVID was saying we have to
Speaker 4: get mandated vaccines even though my body my choice. There
Speaker 4: was just too many things at once that made me.
Speaker 1: That biocracy that was that's such a good one.
Speaker 3: It's just like my body by choice, crowd.
Speaker 1: But also get triple jabbed right or else you can't go.
Speaker 3: To noboo Malibu. It makes it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the mask thing, I mean, like, and what's
Speaker 4: ironic too, is that nowadays even Democrats will look back
Speaker 4: and be like, uh, isn't that crazy that like we
Speaker 4: we would believe like a mask would be able to
Speaker 4: protect us when we went to a restaurant, but once
Speaker 4: we sat in the booth, we could take the mask off,
Speaker 4: like what a polite virus?
Speaker 3: You know. But we're all laughing at that.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, but I saying that's dumb then, And
Speaker 4: you guys didn't even want to be my friend because
Speaker 4: of it. You guys thought I was a bad person
Speaker 4: for making the same observation that we're making six years later.
Speaker 4: So that that's when I had like a mental breakdown
Speaker 4: politically and socially. And that's what started, you know me
Speaker 4: really going. I guess I'm not a Democrat.
Speaker 1: So you're in the comedy circles, you're touring, you got
Speaker 1: dates jeffdie dot com for those you got a podcast.
Speaker 1: We're talking about some of the stuff you've been doing
Speaker 1: for Prager, you which which is very cool. But you
Speaker 1: and I are very similar in a certain way in
Speaker 1: that we're both open about our faith.
Speaker 3: I'm a Catholic. I talk about it on the show.
Speaker 1: But I also think that sanitized art is generally bad
Speaker 1: and is not working.
Speaker 3: And I think that I'm.
Speaker 1: Very critical of Hollywood taking a lot of the sex
Speaker 1: out of movies.
Speaker 3: I think it's been bad.
Speaker 1: I think the more seckless movies are not appealing to people.
Speaker 1: I think pandering to China has not worked. Your comedy
Speaker 1: is not is not PG rated. It is a you
Speaker 1: go for a uti. Yeah, And so I want you
Speaker 1: to square that because I squeare it. But I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm sort of alone in this regard that you
Speaker 1: will hear me have two conversations about me the Eastern
Speaker 1: math with my kids, back to back with something that
Speaker 1: is not Eastern. Shall we say you work all this
Speaker 1: in your routine. I feel like you might be like
Speaker 1: the only guy doing it. Are there other people out there?
Speaker 1: You feel like coming from this vantage point.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know if there's other people, or if
Speaker 4: there are, I'm just not aware of them. But I
Speaker 4: think that I have a real commitment to truth or
Speaker 4: being real. I think that that people can smell that
Speaker 4: in other people.
Speaker 3: Yes, when you.
Speaker 4: Start to put something on you like morning television, feels
Speaker 4: very corny and those are nice people, but it feels
Speaker 4: somehow fake or somehow just everyone putting his artificial front
Speaker 4: is oh oh.
Speaker 3: Like we'll say like a naughty word and they.
Speaker 4: Go, oh WHOA Like I hate that kind of fakeness,
Speaker 4: and churches kind of always had that.
Speaker 3: I went to my buddy's church in Nashville.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Chris and his wife Abby, and I
Speaker 4: went with there on a few weeks ago in Nashville
Speaker 4: to the church. But that's just being myself and people
Speaker 4: were like, what's up.
Speaker 3: Man, Like, how's it going to?
Speaker 4: Like? I was just talking the way I talk, And
Speaker 4: in my mind it's like, I don't change the way
Speaker 4: I speak just because of what building I'm in.
Speaker 3: I'm just Jeff.
Speaker 4: I like Jeff, and Jeff's gonna be Jeff and not
Speaker 4: everyone's gonna like that.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But you know, in a church, on myself, on stage,
Speaker 4: on myself, whether I'm talking to a black person or
Speaker 4: a little kid or a elderly woman, I'm just me.
Speaker 4: I treat everyone and I'm just gonna be sincere in that.
Speaker 4: And so that's the way I justify my faith is
Speaker 4: like I love Jesus Christ. I have a phenomenal relationship
Speaker 4: with my creator. It's all I think about most of
Speaker 4: my day. It's what I've been thinking about since I
Speaker 4: was a little teen, trying to figure out why we're here,
Speaker 4: and it is in every vein of my life. However,
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean I don't I'm not a human, you're
Speaker 4: You're a man. You're a human man. We're both flawed,
Speaker 4: we're full of sins.
Speaker 3: I love breasts and hot chicks. And I think it's
Speaker 3: funny when.
Speaker 1: A fact oh falls down, Yeah yeah, oh genuinely said
Speaker 1: he likes hot chicks.
Speaker 3: How are we gonna deal with that?
Speaker 4: But like we like, you know, making fun of something
Speaker 4: on the internet, like we're human beings. Yeah, And I
Speaker 4: think that maybe it's not us as much as the
Speaker 4: way we're being perceived. That is the problem, is that
Speaker 4: they want to put a label on it. But like,
Speaker 4: but aren't you christian? You were talking about having sex,
Speaker 4: aren't you Christian? It's like, well, that's interesting that you're
Speaker 4: trying to put me into a little thing, which is
Speaker 4: probably like the number one human problem in my opinion,
Speaker 4: is that we're so quick to just put.
Speaker 3: A label on things. It's the worst.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we go, oh, well, he's woke, and now we
Speaker 4: don't have to deal with him because we've labeled him
Speaker 4: this woke thing, which we think is bad, right, or
Speaker 4: you go, he's maga, and.
Speaker 3: You all it's maga.
Speaker 4: So now we don't even have to like treat them
Speaker 4: as people because they're just maga or they're just woke,
Speaker 4: or they're just crazy, or they're just a fascist, or
Speaker 4: they're just a racist, and whatever label you've put on it,
Speaker 4: you now don't have to address them.
Speaker 3: As human beings. And I would argue all of.
Speaker 4: Those people in those camps or categories are worth talking
Speaker 4: to and listening to, including something as bad as being racist.
Speaker 4: Why are we so mean to racists? I'm being honest, Like,
Speaker 4: let's talk to them, let's reform them. And tell them, hey,
Speaker 4: stop being racist. Let's talk about this. Do you really
Speaker 4: believe that, like, let's like you, you should love a
Speaker 4: racist and try to make them not racist. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: don't just immediately to beat them up and say that
Speaker 4: they're evil and shoot them in the neck on television,
Speaker 4: like you.
Speaker 3: We should be nice.
Speaker 4: And kind to all the people, no matter what label
Speaker 4: we've slapped on them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is it's just very lazy thinking.
Speaker 1: I'll move on and get back to reels and get
Speaker 1: back to you know, cooking the scruples, scrolling.
Speaker 3: And you get to dismiss something. Yeah, yeah, you move
Speaker 3: on very quickly.
Speaker 1: So here's one thing that I think that you know,
Speaker 1: at bright part, we were in the cutting edge of
Speaker 1: Trump and trump Ism, and I really saw the authenticity.
Speaker 3: I got to know him a little bit.
Speaker 1: Beforehand, and I thought when he missed, he would miss honestly.
Speaker 1: And I know that he uses all sorts of tactics
Speaker 1: that are dishonest in the moment, but overall, it's a
Speaker 1: very authentic package that he's presenting, and that moment felt
Speaker 1: like it was here. But now I'm feeling us pull
Speaker 1: back from that moment, and I'm seeing more performative personalities
Speaker 1: get elevated in our society, people who are not coming
Speaker 1: from an authentic place.
Speaker 3: I'm a little fearful of this.
Speaker 1: Do you agree with me that you're seeing this happen,
Speaker 1: that you're seeing more composites in our very virtual digital age.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the personalities that are
Speaker 1: the hottest personalities are people who are They're not leading
Speaker 1: with their own authenticity, their own personality. They're actually sort
Speaker 1: of following algorithms in a way to create an artificial persona.
Speaker 1: And I hate this because I'm someone who likes art
Speaker 1: and I love when I see a movie. I want
Speaker 1: to see an autour movie from a director. I want
Speaker 1: to if I'm listening to music, don't I don't care
Speaker 1: about Kanye West tweets.
Speaker 3: I don't care about his tweets.
Speaker 1: I care that he's doing interesting, authentic stuff with his music.
Speaker 3: Somebody I don't like as much, but some of it
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: And we're not going to get the ones we love
Speaker 1: unless we can tolerate the ones we don't love. I
Speaker 1: thought we all agreed on this stuff, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we stopped agreeing on It feels like
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and then now we just stopped.
Speaker 4: Well, I just think it's more crap, right, that's what
Speaker 4: you're seeing. You're just seeing that there's way more garbage,
Speaker 4: you know, and so that's what you're observing. But the
Speaker 4: truth is that the truth tellers or you know, I
Speaker 4: know that sounds like a cliche, but the people who
Speaker 4: are real or the people who are true artists like
Speaker 4: a Kanye West or or Drew Ski in comedy, like
Speaker 4: those kind of people, they're still the greatest. They're still
Speaker 4: the greats, and they're still able to be out there.
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan seeking truth and being able to talk to
Speaker 4: people and just have honest conversations no matter where they're
Speaker 4: from or what they do.
Speaker 3: That's winning.
Speaker 4: You know, Joe's still the number one podcast, Drewski still
Speaker 4: rising to the top. Kanye literally did his best to
Speaker 4: ruin his legacy and he's still the number one like
Speaker 4: selling you know, ticket and these performance centers, and so
Speaker 4: I think we're just witnessing there's a lot more garbage
Speaker 4: because now everyone's famous. Now my wife's my buddy's wife
Speaker 4: is famous, you know, and like everybody's got oh look
Speaker 4: how many views I got the girl that cut my
Speaker 4: hair this morning, was telling me about how she went viral.
Speaker 3: I mean, like everyone's famous. Now, yeah, that is.
Speaker 4: That's what we're witnessing, is that nobody wants to actually work.
Speaker 4: Everybody thinks they should be a celebrity.
Speaker 1: I also think my haircutter is more famous than I am.
Speaker 3: I think that is. I think that is.
Speaker 1: I know, I think that's true. No, it's on camera
Speaker 1: too much.
Speaker 3: I get like a fantasy celebrity haircut, like the.
Speaker 1: Person it's you know, there's no free ads on the show.
Speaker 3: We can give Adrian a shout out.
Speaker 1: We give Adrian a shout out mit Chae Salon and
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, like if you want to do that, Like,
Speaker 1: that's fine, he cuts, It's good, it's good stuff, It's good.
Speaker 3: We're just shouting, just a friend, this is a.
Speaker 1: Real hair podcast, Like we know that, we know that,
Speaker 1: we knew this was a hair podcast.
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Speaker 1: the time slots. I got a booked like six weeks
Speaker 1: into days.
Speaker 4: True, yeh, she gets too successful. Then she's like, I'm
Speaker 4: booked all week.
Speaker 3: That's so funny. No, he's going to love that this
Speaker 3: came up on the show.
Speaker 1: So this is anyway the uh even though that every
Speaker 1: other person who's Harry Cutts is left wing radical so
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, of course. No, he's always filling
Speaker 1: me in on all the hot got.
Speaker 4: You know what so and so said, yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 4: had an anti ice shirt.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the problem is that now if anyone
Speaker 1: hears about this, but there's too much content, so not
Speaker 1: everyone will hear about this. But if anyone were to
Speaker 1: hear about this, then they would stop talking to him.
Speaker 1: But I'd stop getting some of the some of the
Speaker 1: information I got my sources out there. All right, So
Speaker 1: you guys are listening to Jeff I, I want to
Speaker 1: I don't want to miss this while we're fresh and
Speaker 1: I know you gave me a lot of time today,
Speaker 1: which is fantastic. But you just put out a mockumentary
Speaker 1: with prager You, which you guys can go to prager
Speaker 1: you dot com. Everyone knows what a huge supporter I
Speaker 1: am of preger You. I get to sit on Dennis's
Speaker 1: set every day to do live radio, and I've been
Speaker 1: a fan of Dentist for twenty years, who's just the
Speaker 1: absolute best. So the I hate prager You micro entry.
Speaker 1: It's legitimately hilarious. I laughed out loud, which is great,
Speaker 1: and it tells a story. I want to get to
Speaker 1: some of it. I want to encourage people to go
Speaker 1: to prager you dot com and watch it. It's like
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes, which I think is super cool because
Speaker 1: it's a guest. Sometimes come in and they have a
Speaker 1: book and I want to read the book. I try
Speaker 1: to read every book that's like a forty eight hour
Speaker 1: it's nice. I got it like a twenty three minutes.
Speaker 1: It's a comedy like that. I can handle.
Speaker 3: That's easy. But I want to talk about you.
Speaker 1: How do you found praguer you because you don't have children, correct,
Speaker 1: and you are I know a lot of your audience
Speaker 1: is comedy. Guys is going to be younger people, but
Speaker 1: you are reaching a specifically conservative, younger audience with your time.
Speaker 1: That's a bold move for a working popular comic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean I think things are all knowing,
Speaker 4: are all truth, you know, so like whatever age you are, whatever,
Speaker 4: where the things are, Like, I think if it's good,
Speaker 4: it's good, and people are.
Speaker 3: There are no children anymore.
Speaker 4: Really, my niece is in fifth grade and she'll like
Speaker 4: FaceTime me to yell about tariffs and billionaires. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's no kids anymore anyways. So if they're all on
Speaker 4: the internet anyways, I think Brager used a great place
Speaker 4: for them to go. Not to mention, a lot of
Speaker 4: my friends are morons, you know.
Speaker 1: Like see, this is the thing with guys that when
Speaker 1: guys have real guy friends, you can say just flat
Speaker 1: out like, dude, I love you and we're gonna go
Speaker 1: on a trip. We're going on a golf trip this
Speaker 1: weekend and we have a great time. But you are stupid, dude, for.
Speaker 4: Really, Like, I have a ton of friends they know
Speaker 4: nothing about anything, and then they'll go on like rants
Speaker 4: about things here. But you're dumb, and you know you're dumb.
Speaker 4: I know you're dumb, and so I think Bregier use
Speaker 4: a good place for all ages. You can watch a
Speaker 4: video and go, oh yeah, maybe open borders is a
Speaker 4: bad idea. That doesn't mean you go around being racist
Speaker 4: or you hate people that are legal immigrants, but like
Speaker 4: you can have a smart, nuanced opinion about something that
Speaker 4: all your dumb friends are just goingf ice like this
Speaker 4: is such a like you we need to look into
Speaker 4: these things. And I think that Pregger he does a
Speaker 4: fantastic job whether you're a kid or a teenager or
Speaker 4: a college age or an adult watching a simple video
Speaker 4: breaking down how something is like oh this is interesting,
Speaker 4: or that's the history on this, and there's no motive.
Speaker 4: History is wildly conservative. It's in the past, you know,
Speaker 4: it's a thing, and so like some things are facts.
Speaker 4: It's not like Prager, you can manipulate the history.
Speaker 3: It just is.
Speaker 4: If Prager you could manipulate the history, they might want
Speaker 4: to go, hey, slavery didn't happen, that was all. No,
Speaker 4: they have to address all the things that are actually
Speaker 4: in history. So Pregger, you kind of found me from
Speaker 4: being on Gutfeld and leaning into it more of the
Speaker 4: conservative side. Of things, and so they asked me if i'd,
Speaker 4: you know, like to, you know, work on this project.
Speaker 4: I gave it a peek and I loved it right away.
Speaker 4: We use my middle name right because my name is
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Alden, so in the in the thing, we call
Speaker 4: them Alden and I.
Speaker 3: Was excited to make it.
Speaker 4: It's also a testament to Praguer you how good they
Speaker 4: are like cutting something together. It looks great because when
Speaker 4: we were shooting that, I didn't know how I was
Speaker 4: going to turn and it turned out fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's efficient, it's sharp, and the first five minutes they
Speaker 1: cut it is legitimately hilarious. I had to challenge anyone
Speaker 1: in the audience. It's super quick. And then the story
Speaker 1: is really cool, especially from my perspective because we were
Speaker 1: the original conservative outlet that everyone tried to cancel with
Speaker 1: a deep dive reporting. Is that you play a left
Speaker 1: wing reporter who's trying to just destroy Praguer You. That's
Speaker 1: the whole goal. That's the premise, and there's an arc
Speaker 1: that's involved. I need to give away the whole arc,
Speaker 1: but it is a really great premise.
Speaker 3: Who came up with it? What was the writing process?
Speaker 4: Right for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know who, like specifically at Prigger You wrote it,
Speaker 4: but they brought it to me as like a full thing.
Speaker 4: It was just like do you want to be this guy?
Speaker 4: And I was like sure, Yeah. So I'm not sure
Speaker 4: who specifically wrote it, but the idea is there's actually
Speaker 4: people who work at Pregger You who initially hated Prey
Speaker 4: or you. Xavier for examples over there, like he has
Speaker 4: in VLM protests and he was like pretty aggressive aggressively
Speaker 4: against conservatives because everything he's been told is that like
Speaker 4: Republicans are racists, and Republicans hate anyone that isn't a nationalist,
Speaker 4: and they they're they're America first because they have all
Speaker 4: these ill will towards all these socialists or whatever. You know.
Speaker 4: They've been told all these lies about Republicans and then
Speaker 4: when you started to like just scratch the surface a little,
Speaker 4: you go, oh, maybe not, you know, And that's what
Speaker 4: has happened for a lot of people at Breaker You.
Speaker 4: And so that was kind of the premise for the
Speaker 4: for the mocumentary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is something that I've just lived through
Speaker 1: personally so many times, where people think they understand what
Speaker 1: we're doing and then if they actually spent an hour,
Speaker 1: not even hours and a half an hour, just like
Speaker 1: reading our headlines, you start seeing the math that I'm
Speaker 1: it is all like our bias a bright bart which
Speaker 1: is very open. We talk about our America first conservatism.
Speaker 1: But it's all in topic selection. And I'll tell you that,
Speaker 1: like I'm selecting, I'm laying on a narrative based on
Speaker 1: facts like I'm but they're all true. Everything is true,
Speaker 1: and I don't take supply full context. Everyone asks to
Speaker 1: supply full contests in my newsroom, and it is something
Speaker 1: that is totally honest and above board. And yet people
Speaker 1: act like we're just manipulators as fake news.
Speaker 3: And then the left wing journals they.
Speaker 1: Go on the website and like, actually, these are kind
Speaker 1: of accurate stories.
Speaker 3: I just I wish you would play.
Speaker 1: Up more of the negative opinion I might hold or
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 3: And then people figure it out like, oh, this isn't
Speaker 3: so bad, and you do win.
Speaker 1: A lot of converts that way, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people I know don't agree with us read us because
Speaker 1: it's actually a good insight into what do maga people
Speaker 1: care about in the news that day.
Speaker 3: Sure trigger you is stuff.
Speaker 1: It's not mostly political, it's mostly about God, it's about country,
Speaker 1: it's about history. I'd go for the history videos like
Speaker 1: I watched history, because I don't have a categorical memory
Speaker 1: for that stuff. I'll bone up on I need a
Speaker 1: few now talking points. What's a better place to get
Speaker 1: a few maw talking points than whatever pager use got
Speaker 1: up on. Yeh, absolutely, So what was the what was
Speaker 1: the you find? You found yourself with them? They reached
Speaker 1: out because you're on Guff album. Yeah, so in your
Speaker 1: arc of politics, did you feel like you were a
Speaker 1: liberal at some point and that became I.
Speaker 3: Don't think I was ever a liberal.
Speaker 4: I think that I believed I was a liberal, if
Speaker 4: that makes sense, of course. I also I don't know
Speaker 4: how well I'm gonna be able to articulate this idea,
Speaker 4: but you know, so forgive me. But I think everyone's
Speaker 4: a lot more conservative than they pretend to be. You know,
Speaker 4: you could find the most egregious like sex positive, like oh,
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm the wildest girl at the bar, and
Speaker 4: then once you start hanging out with her, she's gonna
Speaker 4: get mad.
Speaker 3: If you start hooking up with other girls.
Speaker 4: You know, no matter how like liberal and like whatever,
Speaker 4: Like she's she's gonna be like, hey, maybe just me
Speaker 4: and you.
Speaker 3: And you go, oh, that's real conservative. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 3: you were, Polly. It's like, you know, like.
Speaker 4: People are more conservative than they pretend to be. And
Speaker 4: I think when you're young, it's you don't want to
Speaker 4: be your parents Republican. You don't want to be old
Speaker 4: and conservative. You want to look young and wild. But
Speaker 4: even the most young and wild want to feel safe, right,
Speaker 4: And they don't want to look the homeless guy in
Speaker 4: the eye, and they they want to like so, you.
Speaker 1: Know, they like the idea of that the town is
Speaker 1: an overrun by criminals and homeless. That's not a political statement,
Speaker 1: that's just a general humans like that stuff. It's less
Speaker 1: pleasant when there's a homeless camp across from your the JW.
Speaker 1: Marriott in downtown LA. Like, it's very which that exists.
Speaker 1: And when I take my family to the Librea tar pits,
Speaker 1: which I know this because you the great bit about
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Angels. Yeah, my version of this is
Speaker 1: the Librea tarpets. You know what Librea means the tar Oh,
Speaker 1: that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: So the the tartar, the tartar feel free.
Speaker 1: Feel I've using it. But Jeff is a great bit
Speaker 1: the you guys can do the math in your head.
Speaker 1: But uh, the Angels and Los Angeles Angels are really.
Speaker 4: Good, really, the Los Angeles Angels, the Angels Angels.
Speaker 3: Which I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I walked this earth for thirty five years watching baseball
Speaker 1: and never put that together.
Speaker 3: And I had my Librea Tarpets. Hispanics put it together
Speaker 3: a lot clearer.
Speaker 4: I just think that when you're young, you think you're
Speaker 4: something that you maybe aren't right, and that's because you know,
Speaker 4: we're always putting labels on ourselves, you know, like oh,
Speaker 4: I'm a skateboarder, I'm a punk rock or I'm and so,
Speaker 4: like I would wear the idea that like, oh I'm liberal,
Speaker 4: like I'm a Democrat, but like when it was really
Speaker 4: if you really think about it, like I've always just
Speaker 4: wanted to be with one girl, I've I love Jesus Christ,
Speaker 4: like I would probably lean towards Republican, but definitely a conservative,
Speaker 4: you know, So I just that's I think I've always
Speaker 4: kind of been conservative.
Speaker 1: There's a nice, bright brow shout out and I hate
Speaker 1: Prager you again, Prager you dot com if you guys
Speaker 1: want to watch this, and you should.
Speaker 3: It's entertaining.
Speaker 1: But you use something that I think is really important,
Speaker 1: which is it makes praguer you, which I work with
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 3: I feel like.
Speaker 1: Normal people, and that's what we're normal people.
Speaker 3: Bright part.
Speaker 1: Everyone acts like we're an ab horns, like we're No,
Speaker 1: we're like always shockingly normal. And I love there's a
Speaker 1: great line about how it's funded by right wing billionaires.
Speaker 1: Apparently I'm a right wing billionaire now because I don't.
Speaker 1: I give them money every year, Like I would give
Speaker 1: them way more if I could. I it's normal people
Speaker 1: contribute because they see the good it does. We love
Speaker 1: Dennis Prager on the show, and it's just very It's
Speaker 1: a cool thing.
Speaker 3: And I'll pushed back a little bit.
Speaker 4: Sure, let's say you were a right wing billionaire.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the problem. No, there's no problem. I'd give more.
Speaker 3: Bgger you.
Speaker 4: I don't get people's problems with everything.
Speaker 3: Sure, Oh, just some rich guy. What's wrong with rich guys?
Speaker 3: What is your problem? We're all human beings.
Speaker 4: You're fine with some homeless, wrench wielding guy with weener
Speaker 4: out on the streets.
Speaker 3: But you're mad at just rich guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I don't understand why some things are okay
Speaker 4: to hate socially and some things aren't.
Speaker 3: What are we doing?
Speaker 4: You wouldn't get some straight white males like, what's wrong
Speaker 4: with straight white males?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 4: I'm straight and white and a male. I'm sorry, what's
Speaker 4: the problem. I don't understand. I would never say that
Speaker 4: to someone else. Oh, you wouldn't get it. You're a
Speaker 4: twelve year old Asian girl, like, like, like, what's wrong
Speaker 4: with being a twelve year old Asian girls? There's nothing
Speaker 4: wrong with these things? And I think that, like, slowly
Speaker 4: we are starting to think as a society now you
Speaker 4: should behave differently. You're a white guy, you should behave differently.
Speaker 4: You're a Republican, you're a rich guy. You're like, what's
Speaker 4: wrong with those things? Those are what I am?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: So here's let's take this a step further and something
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to because you and I both
Speaker 1: have similar bits Yours is much more refined because you're
Speaker 1: an actual comic. But I talk a lot about how
Speaker 1: the best coffee shops are in blue areas, for sure,
Speaker 1: and I'm a coffee shop guy. And there's a great
Speaker 1: scene I'm big enough. The movie almost too much now,
Speaker 1: But it's the there's a scene where you're going to
Speaker 1: blog in a coffee shop, and I blogged so many times.
Speaker 3: In the coffee shop. I thought I felt.
Speaker 1: Very see in that moment, do what I believe is
Speaker 1: the Lord's work. Well, I've got my eyes latte there.
Speaker 3: But so Republicans step up your coffee game. So what
Speaker 3: is this though?
Speaker 4: What is going on?
Speaker 3: Why can't we do?
Speaker 1: Because my ultimate I think that the coolest thing I
Speaker 1: could do if I was a trillionaire, make it an
Speaker 1: amazing right wing city where we've all the cool people
Speaker 1: are there, but we have the better restaurants and coffee shops. Like,
Speaker 1: why can't we figure this out? Because it feels like
Speaker 1: world's most obvious idea.
Speaker 3: It's just a cultural thing.
Speaker 4: It'd be like a democrat or not a democrat, sorry,
Speaker 4: like a super like liberal person, like a super like
Speaker 4: woke Antifa person being super into guns.
Speaker 3: It's like there's.
Speaker 4: Nowhere I can go to figure out guns, you know,
Speaker 4: because these they are like militant and malicious style people.
Speaker 4: But like, where are they supposed to get gun trained? Now?
Speaker 4: You know they're going everywhere I go it's military guys
Speaker 4: and conservative guys with American flags, and I think that's
Speaker 4: the same of coffee. It's just been so liberal for
Speaker 4: so long. I mean, it's like we stole it from Europe, right,
Speaker 4: like the culture. We kind of like stole the culture
Speaker 4: from Europe, brought it to Seattle, brought it to Portland,
Speaker 4: brought it to all these.
Speaker 1: The beans third world countries are making the best beans
Speaker 1: and all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're coming in real late, you know, like
Speaker 4: these black Rifle coffee guys are going like, maybe now
Speaker 4: we'll get into it. It's twenty twenty. You're like, what
Speaker 4: this too late, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's a I opened the show my
Speaker 1: live show earlier this week talking about a San Diego,
Speaker 1: downtown San Diego coffee experience I had where the woman
Speaker 1: literally had ten face piercings, a not ear. It was
Speaker 1: a record, And I was with my six year old
Speaker 1: in his Eastern pajamas and he's been confronted with some
Speaker 1: real humanity and the coffee was just unbul unbelievable.
Speaker 4: And I think it's also too like when it comes
Speaker 4: to like coffee culture, like it's who cares about the coffee? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, so like that person, no.
Speaker 4: Matter what they're going through in their life, whether they're
Speaker 4: happy or crazy, they do love coffee and they take
Speaker 4: a tremendous amount of pride.
Speaker 3: In making that coffee.
Speaker 4: And so like she's putting her she's putting her her
Speaker 4: essence in there.
Speaker 3: She really is.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you that this is not only do
Speaker 1: we a lot of do a lot of haircare humor
Speaker 1: on the show, but it's also a coffee humor show
Speaker 1: because I do a lot of Kyoto method jokes. A
Speaker 1: you're familiar with the Kyoto method, this is a coldbrew
Speaker 1: method where it's a tower and you put ice whatever
Speaker 1: is your best water you can get at the top,
Speaker 1: and the ice drips down into the coffee and then
Speaker 1: like a day and a half later you get cold brew.
Speaker 1: And I make this as a joke about the excessiveness
Speaker 1: of coffee culture.
Speaker 3: They had one. They had one.
Speaker 1: I've never actually had almost a million dollars seven dollars like,
Speaker 1: which is a lot, but it's like not a.
Speaker 4: Lot, that's like a hundred, right exactly right.
Speaker 1: Like the process from the beans being grown in Costa
Speaker 1: Rica to my Kyoto meth and coffee in a super
Speaker 1: expensive machine, and it was it lived up to the hype.
Speaker 3: I've been making fun of it.
Speaker 4: Everybody complains that things are too expensive.
Speaker 3: Yah, everyone is so cheap. Everyone's like, oh, oh man,
Speaker 3: can you believe this? A I had to.
Speaker 4: You got double steak at your Chipotle and you're like
Speaker 4: mad that it cost fourteen dollars. You're like people used
Speaker 4: to only have steaks like once a month, like on
Speaker 4: like their payday of the like then like they.
Speaker 3: Would have a stake.
Speaker 4: But you think you should get double steak three times
Speaker 4: a day at the mall and you're mad that it
Speaker 4: costs fourteen dollars. The same thing when you find out
Speaker 4: how stuff is made, just be grateful that it's that price.
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen how silk is made? I have
Speaker 4: not go to like the how it's made things on YouTube.
Speaker 4: Whenever you have a next free time, it's like a
Speaker 4: nine minute video and you see how silk's made. You're like,
Speaker 4: this much silk should be a billion dollars, Like it's
Speaker 4: crazy what we have to go through.
Speaker 3: Like that coffee right there.
Speaker 4: The second I heard that, I was like, I'd try it,
Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna pay two hundred bucks for.
Speaker 3: A tup of coff it's seven dollars seven seven three
Speaker 3: seven dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a and that that is the steak
Speaker 1: is a perfect example. I say this a lot, is
Speaker 1: that my life is so enhanced by I think steak
Speaker 1: is incredibly cheap. It's like the Whole Foods butcher has
Speaker 1: prime steaks, and I can feed my whole family for
Speaker 1: less than you know one like a date night at
Speaker 1: California at California Pizza Kitchen on Prime. That's incredible. So
Speaker 1: it is, and we all do blow through that really
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Speaker 4: Well yeah, so socially we do. Yeah, Like, I'm so grateful.
Speaker 4: I think growing up poor was the best thing that
Speaker 4: could have ever happened here, because.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm so happy I got into the.
Speaker 4: Shower and I was like, dude, I got a shower.
Speaker 4: I was like very just excited about that.
Speaker 1: We like seventy five years into having showers in everyone's house.
Speaker 1: It's the I was just reading a sales book and
Speaker 1: the sales guy was talking about how he missed out
Speaker 1: on a sale because the family was going to build
Speaker 1: their first bathroom in their house, so they had no
Speaker 1: extra money and he still talked to them into the
Speaker 1: sale anyway, which is kind of a dark story. But
Speaker 1: those nineteen seventies we're talking about. This is not one seventies.
Speaker 1: This is fifty sixty years ago.
Speaker 4: Anytime someone tries to complain to me about how so
Speaker 4: much how much something cost?
Speaker 3: I go, how many pairs of shoes do you on?
Speaker 3: They go what, I go, how many.
Speaker 4: Pairs of shoes do you own? And they're like, I
Speaker 4: don't know, probably like fifteen pairs. Are gonna get a
Speaker 4: book at it, Like I can't even do it. Like
Speaker 4: like the idea that these my friends would complain about
Speaker 4: how broke they are and whatever president's in office, whereas
Speaker 4: Biden or.
Speaker 3: Trump, they go, oh god, this is ruining my life.
Speaker 4: And then they get money from COVID, like the COVID
Speaker 4: government money, and they bought baseball cards and they used
Speaker 4: their COVID money to get alcohol or like a guitar.
Speaker 3: And I was like, dude, stop acting like you're broke.
Speaker 3: You guys are all like ingrades.
Speaker 1: Yeah they I'm clipping that one is that is a
Speaker 1: message everyone should hear. I got one more joke from
Speaker 1: the show that I can't it'll still be funny. But
Speaker 1: I just love that you gave a as your liberal
Speaker 1: persona in the prager, you doc, you gave a speech
Speaker 1: to no one in the park. I just played the
Speaker 1: clip of Corey Booker last week brought a podium to
Speaker 1: the Newark Airport and gave a speech in front of
Speaker 1: no one and taped it and put it out, and
Speaker 1: I thought, why is he doing this? And that's his
Speaker 1: primal scream, that's his therapy session. Is just giving a
Speaker 1: speech that doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 4: Well, and I think that that was a fun glimpse
Speaker 4: into something I'm really obsessed with, is step up your
Speaker 4: protest game. You guys are jokes. We are literally children
Speaker 4: like we are like little idiot children to think that
Speaker 4: you making a little glitter sign and holding it on
Speaker 4: the side of the road is going to change anything.
Speaker 3: It is laughable to me.
Speaker 4: Now, I understand protest is good, right, it's good when
Speaker 4: you need to be heard as a people. But we
Speaker 4: let's find a more productive way to do this. Right.
Speaker 4: The idea that you would make a sign with your kids,
Speaker 4: put little glitter glue on it, and you'd come up
Speaker 4: with a cute little thing that wouldn't even be a
Speaker 4: tweet that would get once.
Speaker 3: And you're on Ventura Boulevard in Sherman.
Speaker 4: Oaks and you think that would change anything in Palestine,
Speaker 4: You chimp brained idiot like that is It's crazy to
Speaker 4: me that anyone would think that that would do anything
Speaker 4: like that. But I made a sign and stood in
Speaker 4: front of Tesla. Did that not make a difference? You go,
Speaker 4: why would that make a difference? This strange turn here,
Speaker 4: Colin Kaepernick taking a knee during the national anthem in
Speaker 4: an NFL game might have been the smartest protest I've
Speaker 4: ever seen. It got us talking, it didn't cause any traffic.
Speaker 4: Everyone you knew was talking about it, and it wasn't
Speaker 4: like when you just see another group of people going
Speaker 4: no kings, like, like, find a productive way to protest
Speaker 4: that starts conversations, that doesn't ruin people's lives, It doesn't
Speaker 4: clog up a park, like like that New York thing,
Speaker 4: the what was that big protest that was in New
Speaker 4: York for like almost a year?
Speaker 3: Remember occupying by yeah ye yeah.
Speaker 4: And now people can't even get to their cars. The
Speaker 4: people that are walking their dogs are like, what is
Speaker 4: this smelly people out here? You know, like, find a
Speaker 4: way to protest where you're not annoying your fellow man.
Speaker 4: You're actually making a statement about something we understand and
Speaker 4: that we can all have a nice conversation about.
Speaker 3: That's productive.
Speaker 4: I just don't understand why people think making signs is
Speaker 4: going to do anything in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Six, especially when so much of the activism is obviously astroturfed.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like it almost feels silly to say
Speaker 1: it because so much of it's funded. That people are
Speaker 1: showing up these so many of them admit they're getting paid.
Speaker 1: It's the middle of work days. The signs are getting
Speaker 1: very lazy, as you know. But what's interesting is like
Speaker 1: the people are so unappealing when whatever was the no
Speaker 1: King's day. I felt like that was just fodder for
Speaker 1: talk radio. I feel like, the why else would you
Speaker 1: do this unless you're just trying to create content for
Speaker 1: people like me to.
Speaker 3: Make fun of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So the left has to know this and
Speaker 1: contrasted with the Kaepernick protest with your right don' agree
Speaker 1: with what he stood for? But or no for uh
Speaker 1: the the that's for the fifteen over crowd there on
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 3: The but it did work, like it got it was effective.
Speaker 3: It worked, and you should acknowledge that.
Speaker 1: That got the conversation going and professional sports got way
Speaker 1: woker after that moment. So it was very effective and
Speaker 1: getting stuff done.
Speaker 4: Nobody's day was ruined. Yeah, it pissed me off, and
Speaker 4: now I have to have conversations with my friends, And
Speaker 4: that was that's what you want.
Speaker 3: That was the should piss me off conversation.
Speaker 4: Defend my position to my friends who agree with it.
Speaker 4: That's what good protest is. Not making me miss my
Speaker 4: flight on the holidays because oil companies. That's another thing
Speaker 4: is like these protests are so vague.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: No, King, Like, like, let's get specific, Yeah, what do
Speaker 4: you mean? Black lives matter? Yet we know, we know
Speaker 4: Black Lives matter. Is this about police brutality? Is this
Speaker 4: about systematic this is about the history of slavery, which
Speaker 4: you know, we were the first to get rid of
Speaker 4: the Great country. Like, it's too vague, and that's kind
Speaker 4: of what I was saying in the beginning of the thing,
Speaker 4: is like we love to paint like a vegue thing,
Speaker 4: like oh, it's crazy or it's woke, or it's maga.
Speaker 4: It's too vague. You've got to be specific. So it's
Speaker 4: like like like take trans. They go, oh, you're anti trans, Jeff,
Speaker 4: I've heard your jokes, but no, I'm not. I have
Speaker 4: trans friends. I have trans friends, but I'm friendly and
Speaker 4: have peers that are trans people in the comedy community.
Speaker 4: I'm very nice to them and I love them and
Speaker 4: I want them to have a good, nice life and
Speaker 4: i want them to prosper in America. But there's seventy
Speaker 4: five issues with being pro or anti trans. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: have the trans in sports, you have very controversial hormone
Speaker 4: blockers for people that are underage, you have you know,
Speaker 4: there's like seventy five different things that would all fall
Speaker 4: under the category of trans. You know, separating the bathrooms
Speaker 4: by sex or gender. You like, I said seventy five
Speaker 4: different things, and what if I I agree with seventy
Speaker 4: of them, but five, I push back on?
Speaker 3: Does those five make me anti trans? Yes?
Speaker 4: And are the seventy that I agree with make me
Speaker 4: pro trands enough? You know, I am going to have
Speaker 4: a statement or an opinion maybe about Israel that isn't
Speaker 4: linked to Jewish people, or does it make me anti Semitic?
Speaker 4: I can have a take about that. These subjects are
Speaker 4: so complex and nuanced, but we want to go anti
Speaker 4: trans's anti gay, he's woke, he's crazy, he's mega, And
Speaker 4: it's like, that's so vague, it's not specific enough.
Speaker 1: So speak to this from the comedy stance where you're
Speaker 1: spend most of your time touring comic because this is
Speaker 1: really interesting to me because I feel like, first of all,
Speaker 1: the left got very anti free speech, which I think
Speaker 1: was probably a mistake with the right at the moment
Speaker 1: where it seems like comedy is at the centerpiece of
Speaker 1: the culture. Sure stand up comedy in particular, it seems
Speaker 1: to be one of the quickest ways to start conversations
Speaker 1: is via these viral clips and stand up specials that
Speaker 1: are taking place and so I think that the left
Speaker 1: going that no, you actually can and joke about stuff
Speaker 1: was probably really stupid for them overall. And the other
Speaker 1: thing is, to your point is people like me, like
Speaker 1: I would seriously avoid all the trands stuff because there
Speaker 1: was a brief moment where it was clearly just a
Speaker 1: small group of very strange people that I didn't really
Speaker 1: want to focus on. But then the IS kept insisting
Speaker 1: on not only that our trands everywhere, and like seven
Speaker 1: percent of us are trans all of a sudden, in
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of sixteen year olds are trans all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, They did that like overnight, that were there,
Speaker 1: And then if you say anything negative, you're a bigot,
Speaker 1: and it's like okay, now now I am the anti trans,
Speaker 1: so it call me a fine fine and whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that was so I think they think they probably won,
Speaker 1: though they think the trans movement probably feels like they.
Speaker 3: Got the long the way they did win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because now there are people and not all nothing
Speaker 4: is all, but there are people who believe the craziness
Speaker 4: or the just plain wrongness of being like well everybody's
Speaker 4: going in science, right, you know, like take the anti
Speaker 4: fat thing or like the pro fat you know whatever
Speaker 4: this is called. Like they'll say, well, these doctors that
Speaker 4: are saying being overweight is unhealthy, they're wrong, And you're like,
Speaker 4: they couldn't be more scientific, that you don't want to
Speaker 4: be overweight. But like now there is a group that
Speaker 4: goes that these doctors are being that they should be malepractice,
Speaker 4: that they're telling people to lose weight, or oh, these
Speaker 4: doctors are misgendering babies. There is a small enough faction
Speaker 4: of people who do believe that that is the science
Speaker 4: and that like so they've won in a small way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: I think that's right, And I think that's very sad
Speaker 1: in a way because it was more interesting when you
Speaker 1: could have the full conversation.
Speaker 3: But we don't. We don't think of things that way.
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about the life as a
Speaker 1: touring comic because I'm always fascinated by this because it's
Speaker 1: you're working at night.
Speaker 3: How many days are you doing a month? I do
Speaker 3: every night somewhere every night, so so.
Speaker 1: You're you're up either if it's on your web and
Speaker 1: you're showing up somewhere and working on Matrio.
Speaker 4: So yeah, every weekend, I'm somewhere, which you can find
Speaker 4: on Jeff dott I Commas. I was in DC this
Speaker 4: last weekend at the Comedy Loft, and then tomorrow through
Speaker 4: the weekend, I'm at the Improv and Raleigh, North Carolina.
Speaker 4: But every single night in between those weekend dates that
Speaker 4: you can find on my website, I'm in Los Angeles. Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm either at the Comedy Store, the Haha Comedy Club,
Speaker 4: the Improv in Hollywood, the Laugh Factor, and only the
Speaker 4: Comedy and Magic Club. So I've kind of got the
Speaker 4: infinity gauntlet of like all the clubs here in Los Angeles,
Speaker 4: and so that's where I work out all my comedy
Speaker 4: during the week and also the Upstairs Comedy Club, which
Speaker 4: I forgot to match.
Speaker 3: So I think you and I are about the same age.
Speaker 1: And one thing that's really when I was a little
Speaker 1: bit younger, not too much younger, I used to love
Speaker 1: traveling two places, and I used to I would schedule
Speaker 1: every I had been in my apartment for more than
Speaker 1: three weeks, and I was like, I'm scheduling somewhere. I'm
Speaker 1: going somewhere. I will come up with a meeting or
Speaker 1: an excuse. I was at her in Chief of Bright Parts.
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough I could do that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And now as I'm getting older, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in the road, don't I don't like my energy
Speaker 1: when I'm on the road constantly, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm as productive with my downtime.
Speaker 3: And so this is what I'm curious about.
Speaker 1: Because you're someone you make your living with your brain
Speaker 1: and you get the whole day in front of you
Speaker 1: until the How is the day structured to walk me
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Speaker 3: Well. I am in a unique pot.
Speaker 4: I've put myself in a unique position where I feel
Speaker 4: no shame or guilt about not being home.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: The reason people feel shame or guilt about being on
Speaker 4: the road, whether that's a musician or a comedian or
Speaker 4: a you know, a speaker or anything, is because they
Speaker 4: have families that they love.
Speaker 3: They have a wife and kids, so if.
Speaker 4: They're on the road, they go, I don't need to
Speaker 4: be around with my wife and kids or b I'm
Speaker 4: having such a good time on the road without my
Speaker 4: wife and.
Speaker 3: Kids that now I feel the guilt. But now I
Speaker 3: feel guilt.
Speaker 4: And she's going, oh you were how late were you
Speaker 4: drinking with the and so like there's this entanglement of
Speaker 4: like mixed emotions and feelings about the road that I'm
Speaker 4: free of because I don't have a dog or kids,
Speaker 4: or a girlfriend or a wife. So when I'm on
Speaker 4: the road, I love it. I wake up, I go
Speaker 4: to the pool, I smoke a cigar. I usually order
Speaker 4: food to the hotel or through the hotel, or then
Speaker 4: I'll go with my buddies.
Speaker 3: I've been on the road for almost twenty years, so.
Speaker 4: I've accumulated it and made all these great friendships in
Speaker 4: all these towns.
Speaker 3: And also it's kind of like a treat when I.
Speaker 4: Come to their town, like when I come to like
Speaker 4: a town my boot, like an Arizona. This might be
Speaker 4: a bad example because I go there so often, but
Speaker 4: let's say Arizona was like these other towns. My friends
Speaker 4: Emily and Jeff are like, Jeff's in town. Clear the schedule,
Speaker 4: like because I'm they don't see me every day, right,
Speaker 4: So when I am in their town, which is once
Speaker 4: or twice a year, they go, well, Jeff, it's Jeff weekend.
Speaker 4: Let's have everyone over at the house and and hang
Speaker 4: out at the pool.
Speaker 3: And so, uh, that's really nice too.
Speaker 4: That's a good way to spend my time is with
Speaker 4: whoever I get to see and can figure out in
Speaker 4: those towns. Uh. And then we do the shows and
Speaker 4: then everyone wants to hang out from that, and so
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty full and jam packed. And then we
Speaker 4: also try to find whatever we can find in that town.
Speaker 4: So if that town is something cool, we'll go see that.
Speaker 1: Like in DC, you have a sleeper town that's like
Speaker 1: a favorite that you might not have might not be
Speaker 1: top of people's mind.
Speaker 4: Chattanooga a really phenomenal city. Yeah, it hasn't been infiltrated
Speaker 4: by anything yet. But a lot of the towns I like,
Speaker 4: are the usual suspects I love, you know, Scottsdeeal, Arizona, Tampa, Florida,
Speaker 4: Chicago used to be great. Not as much anymore. Uh,
Speaker 4: San Diego, La Joya like that, you know, So those
Speaker 4: the the obvious towns are you know, you can find
Speaker 4: like a Padres game in San Diego. We went to
Speaker 4: a Nationals game just last weekend, and and.
Speaker 1: Then you'll get up after the game like or like
Speaker 1: it's seven first page, seven to ten, Like are you
Speaker 1: going to the club after?
Speaker 3: Wait, wait to say it again.
Speaker 1: Like I'm saying if it's a seven to ten Padres game,
Speaker 1: like we can go to the game and then go
Speaker 1: to the comedy club.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So this was luckily the Nationals game was at like
Speaker 4: four o'clock or five o'clock, and so our Furst show
Speaker 4: was at seven.
Speaker 3: So we were just there for like three or four innings.
Speaker 4: But the Dodgers were beating the crap out of the
Speaker 4: Nationals so bad that like, you know, didn't mind stay
Speaker 4: leaving anyways.
Speaker 1: So I imagine that the day you've got to probably do
Speaker 1: some reading. I'm guessing and staying up on the news.
Speaker 1: Imagine you doing some writing, a lot of writing. Imagine
Speaker 1: you're doing some exercise cause you stay in shape.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I do a lot of writing.
Speaker 4: I work out if I can find like an equinox
Speaker 4: in town, or like we'll go on a hike or something.
Speaker 4: So it's a lot of writing. I don't listen. I
Speaker 4: don't read anything. I listened to books like on the
Speaker 4: airplane and stuff like that. But yeah, so usually when
Speaker 4: I land me in my own opener Chris Bauers shout
Speaker 4: out to him, we'll be like, oh, let's go get coffee.
Speaker 4: That's always my first thing because you know, one cool
Speaker 4: thing about being able to travel and being obsessed with
Speaker 4: coffee is like I get to see the best coffee
Speaker 4: shops in America.
Speaker 1: It is something that I prioritize each and every city
Speaker 1: I go to. You so just know if I'm coming
Speaker 1: your city, because every here I'm coming to your city.
Speaker 1: Coffee recommendations a low hot Alex Marlow dot com, please
Speaker 1: send them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's great too, because.
Speaker 4: You know, I have the coffe shops that I really
Speaker 4: love here by my house, but like getting to go
Speaker 4: to a great new coffee shop every weekend feels like
Speaker 4: so good. And I do like a little thing on
Speaker 4: my Instagram but where I plug them. So yeah, it's
Speaker 4: always coffee first. Then we usually find some food and
Speaker 4: then I'll smoke a cigar by the pool, and then
Speaker 4: we do the shows. And then when I say if
Speaker 4: we're gonna go to baseball games to you like an
Speaker 4: afternoon on a Saturday.
Speaker 3: Or got it?
Speaker 1: So your brand you're doing simultaneously you're talking about your
Speaker 1: faith and you're also talking about eating pasta loon in
Speaker 1: the Strip Club. I think that you're the only person
Speaker 1: with that range that has I think your profile.
Speaker 3: So this is this is a question I've been dying
Speaker 3: to ask.
Speaker 1: Who do you get more negative feedback from the Christian
Speaker 1: crowd or the left wing crowd for you talking about
Speaker 1: your faith, the Christian ground for you talking about the strip.
Speaker 3: Club, or the left wing crowd for you talking about Jesus.
Speaker 4: Good question. One hundred percent of the people talking trash
Speaker 4: about me.
Speaker 3: Don't know me and they're not listening. Interesting, that's what
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 4: Yes, now too, I think what you're actually asking is
Speaker 4: that most of it. It's like ninety five percent left
Speaker 4: wing people and Democrats who are like that guy's maga
Speaker 4: five percent, or people like, hey, you know, you probably
Speaker 4: shouldn't be talking about pornography if you're saying you're a Christian.
Speaker 4: But that's just like DM stuff. That's all just like
Speaker 4: blurry whatever. I would encourage anyone who thinks they hate
Speaker 4: me or thinks they know me to like, just come
Speaker 4: talk to me, right, come to my show.
Speaker 3: My buddy Bowers is.
Speaker 4: So sweet about like he ran this thing with Ben
Speaker 4: Gleeb for a while during COVID that was like an
Speaker 4: internet show like on zoom screens, and they have a
Speaker 4: ton of like people who say they're liberal that watch
Speaker 4: their thing, and Bowers is always hesitating to invite them
Speaker 4: to my shows. He's like, dude, they're super like lefty,
Speaker 4: and he goes. But when they do come, I sit
Speaker 4: there and I coach them because you'll start a bit
Speaker 4: and then there's there I could watch their feelings. He goes,
Speaker 4: just let them land the plane, you know, like just
Speaker 4: let him get to the the end, and then he goes,
Speaker 4: whenever I do that, then they're like, oh, I get it.
Speaker 3: I see what he's saying.
Speaker 4: There. Nothing in my act is mean. It's all very
Speaker 4: like positive. I'm going to point out and make fun
Speaker 4: of and tear down ideas when I'm on tearing down people.
Speaker 1: And you have great formats where you start, you throw
Speaker 1: a lot of curveballs where you're starting with the premisey
Speaker 1: you think you know where you're going, and you'll go
Speaker 1: one ego, which is really good.
Speaker 4: And I just think that like smart people discuss ideas,
Speaker 4: they don't go, oh, you know people like this, like
Speaker 4: that's rude.
Speaker 3: It's mean to say about people like this, But.
Speaker 4: Like an ideology, you know, like that is that's something
Speaker 4: worth worth debating or criticizing.
Speaker 1: Do you have anyone who is not on the left? Atheists?
Speaker 1: Both combo that he is the public person that you
Speaker 1: talk to, that you've any public dialogues with at all,
Speaker 1: because seems like something you'd enjoy it.
Speaker 4: But the thing, no, I know a lot of agnostic people,
Speaker 4: but no like atheists. Yeah, I guess my one of
Speaker 4: my best friends is he says he's atheist, but he
Speaker 4: doesn't behave like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems to.
Speaker 4: Have a lot of hope, He seems to have a
Speaker 4: lot of feelings, you know.
Speaker 1: So what about so no family? Is that a for
Speaker 1: now thing or do you feel like that's a hardwiring thing?
Speaker 3: Don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was such a late bloomer and
Speaker 4: it took me so long to get my life together. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like you know, I'm glad no woman wanted to be
Speaker 4: with me, sure, just because you know, like the drinking
Speaker 4: was out of hand for a long time and like
Speaker 4: that wasn't very emotionally available. I think if I met
Speaker 4: someone I really liked, then then i'd be I would
Speaker 4: love to have a family, But I think both are good.
Speaker 3: What other so it feels like for me?
Speaker 1: I mentioned how you're all over my my social feeds,
Speaker 1: and I'm always stunned when I see people who are
Speaker 1: comics feel like might make a point similar point I made,
Speaker 1: and I'll look down all like, you know, two hundred
Speaker 1: likes on it or something, or maybe good will be
Speaker 1: two thousand likes and I'll see a similar point. But
Speaker 1: it's made in a sharp, not just funny way, but
Speaker 1: like a way that's dialed in in a comedy bit,
Speaker 1: and it's got sixty thousand likes and a lot of
Speaker 1: these likes, I don't know how much alike means, But
Speaker 1: what what about the medium do you feel like why
Speaker 1: it's having its moment this sort of comedy that Yeah,
Speaker 1: the stand up in particular, well, I.
Speaker 4: Think that streaming has helped obviously with Netflix and the
Speaker 4: youtubes and stuff, So it's kind of made us like
Speaker 4: rock stars used to just kind of like know about
Speaker 4: comedy and comedy clubs. Our parents' age, like, they didn't
Speaker 4: know a comedian, they didn't know a stand up comedi
Speaker 4: unless they had a sitcom.
Speaker 3: I only know the sitcom.
Speaker 4: Well, no, my parents would never know Paula Pounds down.
Speaker 4: But my parents knew Jerry Seinfeld, they knew Ray Romano,
Speaker 4: they knew Brett Butler, they knew Caroline Ray, they knew
Speaker 4: Mark Curry, they knew all these people because of the
Speaker 4: sitcoms that they got from their stand up A good point.
Speaker 4: So I think that's helped for us as far as
Speaker 4: like you know, you know a Shane gillis, a Mark
Speaker 4: Norman Nikki Glazer. Because of Netflix, it's made us kind
Speaker 4: of like low level rock stars of this generation. I
Speaker 4: personally believe the reason people are responding to the stand
Speaker 4: up is because, like you, like we said earlier it's
Speaker 4: just so much crap. You know. It's like your daughter
Speaker 4: just dancing in the top. You're not proud of her wearing,
Speaker 4: you know, Like it's it's it's a lot of like
Speaker 4: just drivel on there and he's disposable rise to the
Speaker 4: top because it's like, oh, he's making a good point.
Speaker 3: And then everybody has gotten so political.
Speaker 4: Everyone's acting out their political beliefs like religious zealots, you know,
Speaker 4: like like people are more proud to say they're a
Speaker 4: Democrat or Republican than they are about their faith.
Speaker 3: They won't even say they're religion.
Speaker 4: They'll first go, I'm a Democrat, I'm a It's embarrassing,
Speaker 4: and comedy is a good way to carve through that.
Speaker 3: Like you'll listen to a joke.
Speaker 4: I'll listen to a joke from any liberal or any anybody,
Speaker 4: and so but if it's funny enough, I'll give it
Speaker 4: a good. I'll give it a good I'll consider it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really there's something very subtle that your stuff
Speaker 1: you're not it doesn't even look that you're trying to
Speaker 1: be a conservative. Yeah, and it feels like a lot
Speaker 1: of conservative comics who all talk to you on the
Speaker 1: show and I have on don't think are funny and
Speaker 1: are good people.
Speaker 3: They do.
Speaker 1: Really, it's conservative first comedy. Second, you're way in the
Speaker 1: other you I'm making it good, thank you. But that's
Speaker 1: that's that's it's obvious. I want that to be how
Speaker 1: people perceive it?
Speaker 3: Is that how?
Speaker 1: But do you feel like that's how the broader public
Speaker 1: sees it? Because I look at the reactions on your socials,
Speaker 1: it looks like that's how they're they're seeing it.
Speaker 4: My fans see it that way, I think, And again,
Speaker 4: this is so arrogant to say that, Like, there's plenty
Speaker 4: of people that just wouldn't like me or don't like me.
Speaker 4: That's fair, that's life. That's how what it's like to
Speaker 4: be a human being. But when I say that, people
Speaker 4: that really hate me just don't know me aren't listening.
Speaker 4: It's because like they think I'm saying something I'm not.
Speaker 4: And you're like, well, if you just really listened, you
Speaker 4: would hear that I'm saying, oh you hate treads like no,
Speaker 4: I'm saying love everyone, like. I can't tell you how
Speaker 4: many times in the bit I say I love trans
Speaker 4: people like I said it three times in this chunk,
Speaker 4: And you're not even hearing it. So I think that
Speaker 4: that happens a lot. It's just people not listening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to talk about a little bit
Speaker 1: about what you feel like what is audience feedback for you?
Speaker 1: Because I'm in a spot where I'm sure you feel
Speaker 1: similarly where I in my line of work. I have
Speaker 1: to lead the audience and be responsive to what they
Speaker 1: want because the audience wants certain types of content. They
Speaker 1: want to hear about certain things. But also I'm hopefully
Speaker 1: on the cutting edge because I'm in the news business
Speaker 1: and I'm paying attention to things twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing things and hearing from people they can't see.
Speaker 1: So for you, what is feedback to you that you're listening.
Speaker 1: Is it just you're in the room. If people are laughing,
Speaker 1: you know you're onto something. And if they're not laughing,
Speaker 1: or is there what are you looking at? In terms
Speaker 1: of making sure you're on the cutting edge of your material.
Speaker 4: It's always in the room, So never on the internet.
Speaker 4: I don't know how people would measure how well they're.
Speaker 3: Doing on the internet. It's a comfort for you to
Speaker 3: say this, yes.
Speaker 4: And also, like I used to always criticize, like radio
Speaker 4: people because we would go in to like kiss one
Speaker 4: oh six or one oh seven seven the end, and like,
Speaker 4: you know, these are like people we love listening to
Speaker 4: on the radio, like when we were in high school
Speaker 4: at junior high. So it's kind of cool to be
Speaker 4: in those rooms. But I'm like they were so out
Speaker 4: of touch because they would say something funny and they
Speaker 4: assume everyone in their car is just going ah.
Speaker 3: But they don't know. They can't hear it.
Speaker 4: They don't know that maybe someone's rolling their eyes or
Speaker 4: going this DJ sucks.
Speaker 3: They don't know.
Speaker 4: Whereas with a stand up comic, you know right away
Speaker 4: if I say something and they don't like it.
Speaker 3: They've let me know right away, like that wasn't.
Speaker 4: Funny, or like we work that out there like or
Speaker 4: we you know, not that they even disagree, just that
Speaker 4: they didn't think it was funny.
Speaker 3: So we've kind of become really really good.
Speaker 4: Like that's kind of our superpower is knowing what is
Speaker 4: and isn't funny quicker than other kind of people in
Speaker 4: whatever field.
Speaker 3: And so I always judge it by the room.
Speaker 4: So if in that room they all laughed that I
Speaker 4: made a joke, that's Rachel.
Speaker 3: I'll put it on the internet.
Speaker 4: Sure, I don't care that the internet goes this is Rachel.
Speaker 4: I don't care. In that room that night, all those
Speaker 4: people loved it. Yeah, and so I know that that's
Speaker 4: a pass, you know, Like I just posted something. These
Speaker 4: girls got offended by one of my jokes, and they
Speaker 4: were like, oh.
Speaker 3: So what are we are? We retards? Are we slaves?
Speaker 4: You know? And I was like, oh, you didn't understand
Speaker 4: the words in between those words. You heard those buzzwords
Speaker 4: and you got all triggered. You couldn't even hear the
Speaker 4: analogy that I was making and the jokes that I
Speaker 4: was making. But the crowd was like predominantly black, and
Speaker 4: so when these girls got mad, the crowd was kind
Speaker 4: of conflicted, like do we take their side or do
Speaker 4: we take the comedian's side? And then these girls are like, oh,
Speaker 4: I see you guys were all laughing in the crowds,
Speaker 4: like what now she's coming after us? And then she's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you were you know she called them coons and then they.
Speaker 3: Were like, oh hell. And I was like, I remembering on.
Speaker 4: Stagego she screwed up there, you know, should have done that,
Speaker 4: And I watched the whole crowd turn on her. Like,
Speaker 4: not all black people are offended. He's being funny. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And so like that's the kind of consensus or democracy
Speaker 4: in a way, or majority rules that I judge things
Speaker 4: based on what I post I got that night, Like
Speaker 4: they all agreed that this was funny, and so I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put on the internet, because the Internet, no one's
Speaker 4: going to agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think that one of the things I was
Speaker 1: thinking about during your commentary in the Trans just now
Speaker 1: was that of all the things that I don't dig
Speaker 1: about the trans moment, the fact that they seem to
Speaker 1: not want to laugh at themselves. I feel like if
Speaker 1: any of them can laugh at themselves, I feel like
Speaker 1: we could get along on everything else, everything else, we
Speaker 1: could actually have a conversation. But if you it feels
Speaker 1: like there's a controlling from the movie. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's the trans community. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that is, but it's the It feels like the message
Speaker 1: was you can't say anything negative for a while, and
Speaker 1: that's to me, that's when you write a whole, awful,
Speaker 1: whole group of people, And I feel like that isn't
Speaker 1: that sort of the standards? Can we all laugh at ourselves?
Speaker 4: I said this because I was trying to remember what
Speaker 4: I was going to say to you earlier, and you
Speaker 4: just reminded me of it, and I'm so glad you
Speaker 4: went down this thing is that the best audience members
Speaker 4: I have our military guys and gals, nurses, people who cops,
Speaker 4: people that have like real jobs where they see things
Speaker 4: and they go, We're gonna get mad at a clown.
Speaker 4: These guys up there being a goon, you know, like
Speaker 4: we would never there's nothing that Dorc could say that
Speaker 4: would ever offend us. We've literally watched our buddies die,
Speaker 4: We've we've torn open, cut open, Like the world is
Speaker 4: so serious that like you can't get mad at a comedian,
Speaker 4: Like it's insane. And I used to have a joke
Speaker 4: where I'd say, you know, I'm like, I love feminists.
Speaker 4: I love feminism. Because this is back before I got
Speaker 4: a little too out of hand, but I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm a feminist and I love feminists, and I love
Speaker 4: the boorest part about him is they can't take a joke.
Speaker 4: That's the biggest problem. Work on your sense of humor
Speaker 4: a little, and that's what each group needs to work on,
Speaker 4: is there's a sense of humor a little. Jordan Peterson
Speaker 4: has this great quote where he goes, that's one way
Speaker 4: you can mark if someone is someone you don't want
Speaker 4: to even want to deal with, is when they decide
Speaker 4: what is funny, Like, well, I'm going to decide what
Speaker 4: people should laugh about. And you're like, you're going to
Speaker 4: decide that. You're going to decide what is funny, this
Speaker 4: undefinable thing of funny. You're going to decide that, right,
Speaker 4: And they go, oh, yeah, the world would be a.
Speaker 3: Lot better if I did.
Speaker 4: And you go, wow, you are the fool if you
Speaker 4: think that you're going to decide what people can laugh
Speaker 4: laugh about, because that that like, if you're that arrogant
Speaker 4: that you go all decide what is and isn't funny,
Speaker 4: like you're you're you're a piece of trash.
Speaker 1: I love that you pull, particularly military guys and law
Speaker 1: enforcement guy. So I'm thinking of my friend Richard Casias,
Speaker 1: who is a wounded action military veteran and as a cop. Now,
Speaker 1: there's nothing I could say to defend this person, Like
Speaker 1: there's not one thing I could come up with the
Speaker 1: most brutal thing about his family. I can make fun
Speaker 1: of his children, right, like he would not care if
Speaker 1: you're joking.
Speaker 3: If I'm joking, of course, is exactly.
Speaker 1: It's the there's always that's so healthy and we can
Speaker 1: get back to that, right. I mean you're optimistic, all right,
Speaker 1: it's coming back.
Speaker 4: We can do that, right, And I think that that's
Speaker 4: good for everybody, you know. And maybe that's why I'm
Speaker 4: having such positive interactions with trans people is because I said,
Speaker 4: they're all comics. They're all the comedians that I know that,
Speaker 4: and they've got great senses of humor, and they're like
Speaker 4: verious sweet and they're not clutching their pearls, like can
Speaker 4: you believe what he says? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So all right, So I was going to ask you
Speaker 1: what you do on an on tour day, but you're
Speaker 1: you're saying you're working every day. So something like this
Speaker 1: like podcasting what we're going along?
Speaker 3: For them, it's a are you on now?
Speaker 1: Are you working stuff out in your brain? Or is
Speaker 1: this or are you hanging out?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: What is this in terms of work?
Speaker 1: Because for me, when I'm doing shows and stuff, I
Speaker 1: bear it takes time, but it doesn't feel like work
Speaker 1: to me. But I know for some people it's the
Speaker 1: I've been around some big stars and it's anything even
Speaker 1: like a five minute thing. It's a real mental weight
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, it doesn't feel like it.
Speaker 4: I love that I've carved my life into being all
Speaker 4: the things I love, so like I you know, I
Speaker 4: get to do stand up if you you could be
Speaker 4: talking to me as.
Speaker 3: They're bringing me on stage.
Speaker 4: There's no like sitting down like this is like because
Speaker 4: I've carved a way to be able to do my
Speaker 4: entire career just with what I like. I didn't have
Speaker 4: to come do this. No one's asking me to you.
Speaker 4: You guys reached out. I said, I'd love to. Like
Speaker 4: that sounds fun. Okay, gets to talk to a guy,
Speaker 4: maybe make a new friend. Why wouldn't I want to
Speaker 4: do that. There's very few things in my life I'm
Speaker 4: doing that I don't want to do. With the exception
Speaker 4: of waking up early in the morning and then working out,
Speaker 4: those are the only things I'm doing that I don't
Speaker 4: want to do. Everything else is like, hey, you want
Speaker 4: to get a cigar? I'm like, sure, you want to?
Speaker 4: You know, hey, can you do a spotted laugh factor?
Speaker 4: I go shure, like it's all things I want to
Speaker 4: be doing, and then they hand me money at the end.
Speaker 3: So that's pretty cool too. That's not bad. It's always
Speaker 3: not bad.
Speaker 1: So the you're so, what is is there anything that
Speaker 1: stresses you out in sort of your day to day
Speaker 1: at work, like if you're doing a huge show like
Speaker 1: a Rogan show we've done many times, or is there
Speaker 1: is there a venue where if it's a new venue,
Speaker 1: or if you new material is there?
Speaker 3: Or are you just sort of you've so much rhino skin.
Speaker 4: Now, there's two things that stressed me out in life. Well,
Speaker 4: let's let's say three things. One is I have the
Speaker 4: regular nerves of just like I'm about to go on
Speaker 4: stage and I want to do well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think I used to have nerves. People
Speaker 3: go actually nervous. I don't know, And.
Speaker 4: Then I realized I was just drunk, and so like
Speaker 4: now that I'm a sober guy, like, I do have
Speaker 4: nerves before every show that I never thought I had. Really,
Speaker 4: but it's just like me wanting to do well and
Speaker 4: enthusiasm and excitement. So they're positive butterflies. But that's one thing.
Speaker 4: The second thing is corporate events.
Speaker 3: I just did a private gig for a really, really.
Speaker 4: Beautiful couple in Puerto Rico, but they paid me so
Speaker 4: much money and they brought all their friends to go.
Speaker 3: Our favorite comedian is going to be here.
Speaker 4: So that pressure of like, you know, doing comedy at
Speaker 4: four pm in the sunlight of a beautiful island, you know,
Speaker 4: like that, like that made me really nervous.
Speaker 3: Luckily, it went well and it went great.
Speaker 4: But like anytime, like like, I don't get nervous about
Speaker 4: the laugh factor necessarily because I just know it's going
Speaker 4: to go well. It's a comedy club, I've done this
Speaker 4: a million times, but corporate gigs like I'm doing Pebble
Speaker 4: Beach in August, that'll be like a twenty minute like
Speaker 4: corporate spot, and I'm like that. That makes me a
Speaker 4: little nervous then, because I really wanted to go well
Speaker 4: and they're paying me a lot of money.
Speaker 1: It's so funny to say this because I had a
Speaker 1: speech last year where I charged like two and a
Speaker 1: half times my normal rate because literally I had a
Speaker 1: week earlier and watched my friend Charlie Kirket shot and
Speaker 1: the Nyack and kill the who's giving a speech. I
Speaker 1: was going to go fly away from my family and
Speaker 1: give a speech and I really did not want to
Speaker 1: do it, and so I threw out a pretty absurd
Speaker 1: number and they almost hit it. And I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to perform because they thought I was
Speaker 1: worth this amount of money that I didn't think I
Speaker 1: was worth that amount of money normally, but under these
Speaker 1: particular circumstances, I said, I'm not going to fly away
Speaker 1: from my raw family who's all broken up right now,
Speaker 1: and go and go talk to people for money unless
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money.
Speaker 3: And I did kill It was great. Yeah, it was a.
Speaker 4: Great experience and they wanted you to be there.
Speaker 3: They loved it. It was important.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But like that nerves of like I hope I
Speaker 4: knocked it for them is a healthy thing to worry about.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I gave them their moneys worth eventually,
Speaker 1: but it really was I was kind of pacing around
Speaker 1: the room before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The third thing I stress about, which I'd love to
Speaker 4: have a conversation with you about, is how much negative energy.
Speaker 3: I get from the internet. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know why I let it affect me.
Speaker 4: It's been the probably the hardest battle of my last
Speaker 4: two years mentally. Is I go through these waves where
Speaker 4: like a week, I don't care at all. I go aheah,
Speaker 4: it's okay. Then the next week I'm like, well, it's
Speaker 4: good to care, and like let's talk to these people.
Speaker 4: And then the next week I'm like why are they
Speaker 4: saying this? Like I'm almost in a weird state of manicness,
Speaker 4: you know, for the last like two years dealing with
Speaker 4: people who troll me on Reddit and YouTube and the internet.
Speaker 3: So this is my question.
Speaker 1: Do you find that there are patterns in terms of
Speaker 1: what you care about and what you don't. Is it
Speaker 1: people you respected who say something negative, or is it
Speaker 1: do they actually found a hole in your game and
Speaker 1: you think they identified a real problem. Because for me,
Speaker 1: I feel like if people are just making generic comments,
Speaker 1: then I don't it doesn't bother me. But I do
Speaker 1: find that if they pinpoint something that maybe was a
Speaker 1: little weak, like maybe I delivered something admit an incomplete answer,
Speaker 1: or there was something with the way that I framed
Speaker 1: something up that wasn't good, or something my appearance or
Speaker 1: set was off, and I think they're right, then that
Speaker 1: does affect me a little bit. And it's one of
Speaker 1: these things where it's harder to disassociate if I feel
Speaker 1: like there might be some truth to it, but there's
Speaker 1: no truth to it, then I usually can kind of
Speaker 1: just just move on.
Speaker 3: But I do find I find it tough for them.
Speaker 1: People would think because I'm in a line of work
Speaker 1: where we call our subscription service at brightbart fight club,
Speaker 1: like we're here to fight with people. But it's the
Speaker 1: if I feel like I'm vulnerable at all, it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel good.
Speaker 3: I mean even being so it's right, that's the part.
Speaker 4: And I understand, yeah, is or that I'm trying to
Speaker 4: come to turn with. In fact, I reach out to
Speaker 4: others like hey, you getting a lot of hate on
Speaker 4: the internet. Yeah, And I go, good, I'm not alone,
Speaker 4: Like that's a nice feeling.
Speaker 3: I do have feelings. I do care.
Speaker 4: I don't like that people say and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: They're very often not right, you know. It's always a
Speaker 4: burner account. It's like you're balding. I'm like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: forty three years old. We're all balding. Right.
Speaker 1: Also I get that, I get exactly, you know, like it.
Speaker 4: Does even something as trivial as like that, or like
Speaker 4: they're like yeah you got a duy and you almost
Speaker 4: killed some people blah blah or whatever, like yeah, the
Speaker 4: whole internet knows I got a duy. This is not
Speaker 4: something I'm hiding.
Speaker 1: By the way, hilarious bit from You're stand up where
Speaker 1: you talk about how that's how you knew you were
Speaker 1: a celebrity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it doesn't matter to me whether it is
Speaker 4: true or whether it is trivial or what. I just
Speaker 4: can't understand how that's someone how that's how they would
Speaker 4: want to spend their time, is just saying these mean
Speaker 4: things that like, you know, oh, he wears his hat
Speaker 4: too low. You're like, why do you care about a Yeah, Like,
Speaker 4: like you're a grown man. You're creating a whole identity
Speaker 4: around a comic you've never met, Like this is your
Speaker 4: whole brand.
Speaker 3: How pathetic. They don't have then model, yet they're.
Speaker 4: Winning in the way that Like it is in the
Speaker 4: back of my mind going why does someone care what
Speaker 4: sweater I'm wearing? Like, like it's just so strange to me.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're sharing this because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are in the public light for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, who I think honestly don't care, and I
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Speaker 1: that just I just get more subscribers. It's if he
Speaker 1: maybe cares a little maybe, but not a lot. And
Speaker 1: I do care a little bit personally, and I don't
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Speaker 4: I just I think that I don't ever want to
Speaker 4: be so hardened that I go I don't care, right,
Speaker 4: But if it's always going to be there, that's almost
Speaker 4: what you have to do. If it's always going to
Speaker 4: be there, right, So, like I'm a little conflicted because
Speaker 4: people go, oh, Jeff, they're just jealous, and I go, well,
Speaker 4: how arrogant If I just think they're jealous, Yes, Like
Speaker 4: now that's me suggesting that I have something that they
Speaker 4: should be jealous of. I like, no, they I think
Speaker 4: they just genuinely hate me, and that bothers me. I'd
Speaker 4: like them to not hate me. So I'm like, I
Speaker 4: don't want to be so hardened to it, but I
Speaker 4: also don't want to be so sensitive that I'm being
Speaker 4: a little pussy about everything this. So I'm in this
Speaker 4: weird where where I don't really know how to feel
Speaker 4: about it. I don't want to dismiss it as jealousy.
Speaker 4: I don't want to care too much, but I don't
Speaker 4: want to care not at all, and I don't I
Speaker 4: don't know where to be about all of that negative
Speaker 4: hate stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the hardest thing is to steparate. Is there
Speaker 1: a kernel of truth that we can learn from or
Speaker 1: is it just purely trying to harsh our vibe? And
Speaker 1: can we fight through that? Because it can't harsh my vibe,
Speaker 1: especially if I do something dumb. I got canceled for
Speaker 1: something that was sort of semi legitimate, like six or
Speaker 1: eight years ago, and it was it was brief. It's
Speaker 1: only a couple of days in the news, and some
Speaker 1: of the news was kind of positive.
Speaker 3: It could have been way worse.
Speaker 1: But I made a mistake and I didn't like making
Speaker 1: a mistake that everyone knows about, right, And I know
Speaker 1: you can relate to this, but it's the like, no,
Speaker 1: everyone knows I made a mistake, and I don't like
Speaker 1: making mistakes.
Speaker 3: It's just like anyone else.
Speaker 1: It's the I'm in a line of work where if
Speaker 1: I make a mistake, I have to admit it and
Speaker 1: talk about it on shows and stuff.
Speaker 3: But I don't like it.
Speaker 1: It was not fun, even though I think the way
Speaker 1: the media way overreacted to it, and I think that
Speaker 1: helped in a way. And it kind of makes you
Speaker 1: seem cool because it shows how people you get rise
Speaker 1: out of people.
Speaker 3: So it's not without a silver lining. I didn't like it.
Speaker 3: Now I'm publicly being pointed out.
Speaker 1: Hah.
Speaker 3: That is not a good feeling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it gets strange that it's very much like
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: There's plenty of celebrities.
Speaker 4: I guess I think I wouldn't like, but I couldn't
Speaker 4: imagine writing a big thing to them, Like, I just
Speaker 4: don't get why anyone would want to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the picturing the person in their basement, and we
Speaker 1: know who they are, we know their trolls, Like, these
Speaker 1: are not people who have a scratched handicap because they'd
Speaker 1: be on the golf course. These are not people who
Speaker 1: are moving around a lot of money and you know,
Speaker 1: thinking about how they're going to get their next supercar, Like,
Speaker 1: these are people who are not confident, people who are
Speaker 1: struggling like themselves.
Speaker 3: And do you reply to them?
Speaker 4: They go, oh my god, you must be a loser
Speaker 4: to respond to me.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm like, that's what you think of yourself.
Speaker 4: You think so badly of yourself that me replying makes
Speaker 4: me more of a loser to even talk to you, Like,
Speaker 4: I just can't get my mind around it.
Speaker 1: The thing that my dad always told me that had
Speaker 1: the most effect on me was when he was disappointed.
Speaker 1: And so that's always the move. Like, if you ever
Speaker 1: want to criticize someone, this is to the audience. If
Speaker 1: you ever feel so compelled that you're going to take
Speaker 1: pen to paper to write, Jeff, why you didn't like
Speaker 1: his his his Cafe Nico batter you didn't like his
Speaker 1: pasta bit Like if you don't like that, say Jeff,
Speaker 1: this bit disappointed me.
Speaker 4: That might work maybe if they knew me, it might,
Speaker 4: but you know, strangers saying it wouldn't do.
Speaker 1: So this is where I feel like the if you
Speaker 1: have the ability to acknowledge that and to go through
Speaker 1: the mindset, how is this person? What could they be
Speaker 1: doing with their day? They feel compelled to rage on
Speaker 1: the internet?
Speaker 3: Crazy that that's where I lose.
Speaker 4: Also, I'd be friends with that guy if you just
Speaker 4: came and hung out with me. Like. That's the other
Speaker 4: part that I don't understand too, is like.
Speaker 3: Uh, like.
Speaker 4: I genuinely believe like I'm a nice guy, Like I
Speaker 4: would probably buy a drink for any of those people
Speaker 4: that are like talking trash if they just ever met me.
Speaker 4: The guy is actually a pretty nice guy. Like, I
Speaker 4: don't get what this what is the motive to Just.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had that interaction work?
Speaker 1: Because I've had a couple of those interactions where people
Speaker 1: think we would hate each other and then I'm kind
Speaker 1: of good, more good natured than they're pleasantly shocked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, happened all the time. Yeah, every night in my
Speaker 4: mean grade.
Speaker 3: The guy I thought I was gonna hate you, and
Speaker 3: you you're good. You're good. This was a good show,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: So I know we're going way back, but I'm fascinated
Speaker 1: by this because I do think comedy is it is
Speaker 1: so relevant right now. So you're so you're at the
Speaker 1: club and this is a give me the version of
Speaker 1: your working on material night in LA and you're on
Speaker 1: the road. What's what is the what's the workday like
Speaker 1: for what? So you you show up to the club,
Speaker 1: but like are you crashing flash of people? Are you cramming?
Speaker 1: Are you going through bits in your head?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: When I get there, I try to not see anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't want to see anyone. It feels like you've
Speaker 4: really broken the allure if they watch walking through, like
Speaker 4: with your bag and everything like, so like I always
Speaker 4: try to that's so right, not be seen until after
Speaker 4: the show, because sometimes people will catch me in the
Speaker 4: parking lot, like can we get a selfie?
Speaker 3: I'm like, what if the show sucks? What are you
Speaker 3: going to delete this? Yes?
Speaker 4: So I I always try to just sneak into.
Speaker 3: The club no matter what.
Speaker 4: He sucked tonight that selfie, you know, So I always
Speaker 4: I don't want to see anybody, And in the green room,
Speaker 4: I'm usually you know, putting a pen to paper a
Speaker 4: little bit kind of organizing what I might say, just
Speaker 4: in chunks or in bits, and then I smoke a
Speaker 4: cigar outside, usually in the back area, sometimes in the
Speaker 4: green room, and then we do the shows. I always
Speaker 4: have a meet and greet. The problem is not everyone
Speaker 4: wants to pay for a meet and greet or they
Speaker 4: don't care, so we allow them. Like if you just
Speaker 4: buy one piece of merch, you basically get to do
Speaker 4: the meet and green So then I shake all those
Speaker 4: hands and then we do that twice. And then at
Speaker 4: the end of the night, I'm not as excited to
Speaker 4: go out. I used to go out and drink with
Speaker 4: the audience no matter where I was at, and now
Speaker 4: it's become a little bit too much as far as
Speaker 4: like I'm being pulled in too many different directions, or
Speaker 4: people act weird. And then also like you're tolerance for
Speaker 4: drunk people lowers as you get sober.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And also now we're in an age where people are
Speaker 1: always trying to get viral and they can go viral
Speaker 1: for doing any and you don't even have to reply.
Speaker 1: They could just yell something insulting and if they like
Speaker 1: nail the delivery, then it's like the dunked on me
Speaker 1: really dunked on toastage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or like sometimes even just the optics of me
Speaker 4: being at a bar isn't great, you know, so be
Speaker 4: cause I am I'm a big I love being sober
Speaker 4: right happy about it, and but like so usually I'll
Speaker 4: try to hang for a little bit and then if
Speaker 4: it gets unruly, like I take off, you know.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still like being around drunk people, and I
Speaker 4: my friends drink and do drugs and all that.
Speaker 3: But like I think that like my talish is just
Speaker 3: a little lower.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I leave pretty quick watching wrestling in my
Speaker 4: hotel and eat food.
Speaker 3: Very very very good day. And I love to see
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll follow you around one day, would be pretty
Speaker 1: cool to see you the Do you have a favorite
Speaker 1: venue size?
Speaker 3: I always like.
Speaker 1: Asking comics to talk to them because I feel like
Speaker 1: there are some people you feel like someone. Some people
Speaker 1: feel like they'd only be comfortable Mathson Square Garden, and
Speaker 1: then others they might be a huge name, but they
Speaker 1: probably rather do two hundred seats of just they feel
Speaker 1: like they're close friends.
Speaker 4: Do you want to hear my philosophy on this, please?
Speaker 4: I tell ever, I've never said it on a thing.
Speaker 4: Comedy is meant to be in a comedy club. It
Speaker 4: isn't meant to be at the beautiful Paramount theater. It
Speaker 4: isn't meant to be at the arena or the crypto
Speaker 4: dot com like, it's just not meant to be there.
Speaker 4: Do you know Broadway plays the reason they're not people
Speaker 4: don't stream and put it on YouTube, or they don't
Speaker 4: put it on NBC is because Broadway needs to be
Speaker 4: at a theater, and you need to see live theater
Speaker 4: in the live theater. There's a connect. When I grew up.
Speaker 4: When I grew up, I thought plays were gay. I
Speaker 4: was like, theaters gay, I'm not watching that. And then
Speaker 4: I went to like my first Broadway play when I
Speaker 4: was living in New York weeping. I was like, this
Speaker 4: is amazing. They're so talented. They're remembering all their lines
Speaker 4: and all their blocking and the costume changes in the set.
Speaker 3: It's phenomenalgree. Theater is a masterpiece.
Speaker 4: But there's a reason you don't video it and put
Speaker 4: it on YouTube or television.
Speaker 3: It's meant for that. Same with stand up comedy.
Speaker 4: You could start a special and be like, I turn
Speaker 4: it off after six minutes because it's not made for Netflix.
Speaker 4: Stand Up comedy is meant to be in a club
Speaker 4: that's that might be one hundred seats, that might be
Speaker 4: four hundred seats, but a comedy club, that's what it's
Speaker 4: supposed to be. Bert Kreischer my favorite example of this,
Speaker 4: and I love Bert, Love you buddy, if you're if
Speaker 4: you hear this, nothing but respect and love for you.
Speaker 4: But when you saw Burt Kreisler at like a funny
Speaker 4: Bone dude, there was nothing greater.
Speaker 3: It's magic.
Speaker 4: You feel like you're hanging out with this guy you've
Speaker 4: never met, but like you feel like you know him.
Speaker 4: Sure his shirt is off and he's making you laugh,
Speaker 4: and he's drinking and you're drinking with him in a way,
Speaker 4: and you're this idea that like, I know Bert, but
Speaker 4: I don't know Bert, but I know a guy like Burt,
Speaker 4: and I'm like Burt and like this magic. But that
Speaker 4: magic got so large that now Bert's at the arena
Speaker 4: and you paid fifty bucks to see Bert or sorry
Speaker 4: you paid fifty bucks to park, you paid two hundred
Speaker 4: to get to sit, and you're now watching him on
Speaker 4: a monitor and he's this big, he's down there and
Speaker 4: there's not this connection. It's not Bert's fault, but like,
Speaker 4: that isn't the format to see him. It doesn't work,
Speaker 4: It doesn't translate. You can't put a monster truck show
Speaker 4: at the comedy club, and you can't put comedy at
Speaker 4: the venue where the monster truck should be.
Speaker 3: And so now you start.
Speaker 4: Nitpicking Bert's material. You start, oh, I know I've heard
Speaker 4: this story or that joke. Maybe, isn't You were never
Speaker 4: nitpicking it when you were just hanging out and slashing
Speaker 4: beers with the boys at the Funny Bone, right, And
Speaker 4: that's because comedy is meant to be at a comedy club.
Speaker 3: And so I love clubs. I hope I never you know,
Speaker 3: I hope that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I obviously, if I ever get successful enough
Speaker 4: that they want me to do arenas, like that's gonna
Speaker 4: be great money. But you can point to this podcast
Speaker 4: with you say women, when you were with Alex, you said,
Speaker 4: comedy club, that's what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: I do have to observe if you're at the rye
Speaker 1: An Auditorium this weekend, which is.
Speaker 4: Well on fifteen minutes with kid Rock. Yeah, I'm like
Speaker 4: literally popping on that show. That's not a Jeff Daies show.
Speaker 1: That's funny though, No, but I think that's so great.
Speaker 1: And I think that I talked about this with movies
Speaker 1: a lot, about how you really miss so much just
Speaker 1: watching at home. And I'm a guy watching ninety percent
Speaker 1: of my movies at home and just you miss some
Speaker 1: of them at the theater. Yeah, some are meant to be
Speaker 1: in a theater. I totally agree. I have a theater family.
Speaker 1: It's just like Broadway is one of the greatest art
Speaker 1: forms we had as a country, and it has completely
Speaker 1: been degraded for.
Speaker 3: What is it about the theater.
Speaker 4: Let me push back on that a little bit because
Speaker 4: I heard Tarantino recently rant about how one of the
Speaker 4: one of our movies, right, But he's also like he's
Speaker 4: he's he didn't really think that out very well, or
Speaker 4: at least in what I saw, it didn't seem like
Speaker 4: you did. It's like, have you seen how good our
Speaker 4: home TVs are? Now? Look at that thing usually that's
Speaker 4: just on pause behind you. That's like, like we have
Speaker 4: some of the best technology that's better than what a
Speaker 4: movie theater was in like nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: Those of you who are missing the visuals, Jeff has
Speaker 1: done the whole show in a small radio studio in
Speaker 1: Ama seventy The answer, I've done it in front of
Speaker 1: the Griffith Park Observatory here in LA you could see it.
Speaker 3: This is good. We thought this one through Daniel, so
Speaker 3: this was this was a good call.
Speaker 4: What is the the WME movie experience is so much
Speaker 4: better than it once was. So it's not like we're
Speaker 4: not enjoying the movies just because we watched it on Netflix.
Speaker 1: So I think that it's the personal connection and seeing
Speaker 1: other people's reaction is I think part of.
Speaker 3: It next to strangers. It's a sixth sense, I think,
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably, But for me, I'm more in
Speaker 1: that camp is the the second we got to the
Speaker 1: ten eighty p I've been to four pro sports events
Speaker 1: since then, Like which was you know, I was sixteen
Speaker 1: and my dad brought home a Sony Bravia forty inch TV,
Speaker 1: which probably costs as much.
Speaker 3: As the car.
Speaker 1: And I'm never going to pay for another Lakers ticket,
Speaker 1: Like I could see the reflection in the floor.
Speaker 3: You could see the reflection.
Speaker 4: Plays better than floor seats exactly.
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm just watching from here, and movies are the same
Speaker 1: and you get the great sound system. But there is
Speaker 1: something about being with comedy particular. It does feel like.
Speaker 4: Well, that's why people laugh so much, because you're next
Speaker 4: to strangers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also, that's what makes something seem more shocking. Yes, it's
Speaker 4: because you're like, we're talking about like this in society,
Speaker 4: you know, we usually talk about this behind closed doors,
Speaker 4: you know, Like you watch a murder on your movies,
Speaker 4: you know, and like you don't think anything's weird about that,
Speaker 4: but you wouldn't. Everything is a little more taboo when
Speaker 4: you're around strangers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm a guy who talks about my faith and family,
Speaker 1: and I am on a conservative radio station and on
Speaker 1: a conservative website, and I like a lot of transgressive entertainment,
Speaker 1: like a horror movie stuff like that. The stuff Tarantino
Speaker 1: programs at his theaters out here are unbelievable. I go
Speaker 1: to half my movies at his theaters, which are all
Speaker 1: revival theaters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's picking more.
Speaker 1: Interesting stuff than what's being sent to the you know,
Speaker 1: the Regal Cinema is in Santa Clarita, California, Like, it's
Speaker 1: way more interesting.
Speaker 4: Also, if these directors and all these people have such
Speaker 4: a problem with the current state of movies, yeah, then
Speaker 4: start making good movies.
Speaker 3: Yes, stop remaking everything.
Speaker 4: Stop like, like I don't understand how, Like, maybe make
Speaker 4: a film in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Let's try that if you want.
Speaker 4: If you care about all this stuff so much, if
Speaker 4: you love like classic Hollywood, stop shooting in Toronto because
Speaker 4: you're gonna save a bunch of money. Yes, stop shooting
Speaker 4: in Atlanta and Detroit because you're so cheap. Like, if
Speaker 4: you have such a pride for Hollywood and classic cinema,
Speaker 4: maybe shoot something.
Speaker 1: Here what strikes me. And you could speak to this
Speaker 1: more than I can. I have some family and the
Speaker 1: peripheries of Hollywood, but not by any means, part of
Speaker 1: the industry at any meaningful level. I'm stunned by how
Speaker 1: there's no self reflection by the people whose industry, who
Speaker 1: people who are workers who have a career in Hollywood
Speaker 1: but are not big shots by any means. And when
Speaker 1: they book a big movie that does mean that they're
Speaker 1: going to leave their family for nine weeks and go
Speaker 1: to Winnipeg or go to Georgia, and they seem to
Speaker 1: be completely comfortable with this, and no one says, oh,
Speaker 1: we messed up. We did this to ourselves with the
Speaker 1: regulations and the taxes and whatever. The union pandoric, not
Speaker 1: to say all the private sector unions I'm generally okay
Speaker 1: with because it's them or the giant corporation.
Speaker 3: It's a tough call some days.
Speaker 1: But overall, Hollywood was in Hollywood and now it's not.
Speaker 1: And no one in Hollywood put their hand up in
Speaker 1: said mess it up?
Speaker 3: Can it up?
Speaker 4: They've messed everything up. And also this goes back to
Speaker 4: my early thing when I was saying to you, it's like, well,
Speaker 4: what's wrong with being a billionaire? What's wrong with the
Speaker 4: giant corporation? In fact, those giant corporations have so much
Speaker 4: money that they could maybe I don't know, shoot some
Speaker 4: things in Hollywood stop being cheap. If you're a giant corporation.
Speaker 4: Shop like, there's nothing wrong with a billionaire. There's something
Speaker 4: wrong with a cheap billionaire. There's nothing wrong with a
Speaker 4: guy who drives a Cadillac, you know, Bentley, whatever, it's
Speaker 4: when he doesn't tip the valet when he's when he's
Speaker 4: parking that thing, you know, So like just be be
Speaker 4: generous with these things, and so like, yeah, like I
Speaker 4: don't know when this happened, but Hollywood is a ghost.
Speaker 4: I went to the Universal Studios, took like a tour
Speaker 4: and they're like where the movies are made. You're like, no,
Speaker 4: it's not the old tour was like yeah, this is
Speaker 4: the set of back Draft.
Speaker 3: You're like old, Like how old is this? And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this was from Honey, I shrunk the kids.
Speaker 4: You're like, what is that? How watch out job everybody.
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is dog cram.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really right.
Speaker 1: They really leading on stuff that's been fifty years ago,
Speaker 1: and no one puts their hand up and said this
Speaker 1: is sad.
Speaker 3: It's bad. Yeah, it's wor wrong.
Speaker 1: It's a big opportunity for guys like you people doing
Speaker 1: stand up. I guess the last one for now, Jeff
Speaker 1: and I would love to do this again from time
Speaker 1: to time. I think it's a really interesting guys. You're
Speaker 1: on a great trajectory, but you're doing all these cool
Speaker 1: different things. So you're on I see you and got
Speaker 1: failed that you're all over socials. You got a lot
Speaker 1: of big dates doing prager Ustaff. Do you have specific
Speaker 1: goals you're trying to accomplish? Is they just keep doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing, but bigger I'd.
Speaker 3: Like to do.
Speaker 4: I said this six years ago, I said it ten
Speaker 4: years ago, and it continues to be happy and so
Speaker 4: I'm very happy. I want to do exactly what I'm
Speaker 4: doing now for just a lot more money because I
Speaker 4: really love my life.
Speaker 3: I've got great friends.
Speaker 4: I as much as I talk trash about La and
Speaker 4: La County, like, I really love where I live. Sherman
Speaker 4: Oaks is beautiful, the weather's beautiful, the people are great.
Speaker 3: I just wish it was cleaned up, and you know,
Speaker 3: like I've got.
Speaker 4: Some criticisms, but I really love where I live and
Speaker 4: I and I really love stand up comedy and the scene.
Speaker 4: I just would like it to con I'd like to
Speaker 4: continue to be able to make jokes every night for
Speaker 4: a lot of people and make people happy, like that's
Speaker 4: what I like best.
Speaker 1: Do you think that comedy is going to continue this
Speaker 1: sort of upward trajectory within our culture.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm very optimistic about that. Actually, well, you know
Speaker 4: what my number one goal is to get a dog.
Speaker 4: I hope to have a giant house that I could
Speaker 4: afford to pay someone to watch the dog while I'm
Speaker 4: on the road.
Speaker 3: That is a big thing dog when you're on the road.
Speaker 1: I was on the road a week and a half ago,
Speaker 1: and my dog is still with my parents in law
Speaker 1: because I've not got down and not time the traffic
Speaker 1: pattern right to pick up the dog.
Speaker 3: And I missed that little guy.
Speaker 4: I know. Yeah, and that's what i'd like. I'd like
Speaker 4: a dog, you know, I think I can figure that out.
Speaker 1: Jeffdi dot com is a website.
Speaker 3: He's got dates. There's a special there.
Speaker 1: That's there all. It makes it easasy as possible. You
Speaker 1: could watch it. Did you have a you work on
Speaker 1: your special?
Speaker 3: Do you get anything? Two specials coming out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know where they're gonna land or what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen, but I've got two seventy minutes of comedy.
Speaker 4: If you guys come to any of my comedy shows,
Speaker 4: which you can find at Jeff doi dot com. If
Speaker 4: you go to the early show, it will be one
Speaker 4: hundred percent different material than the late show.
Speaker 3: So if you is that how you piece together the
Speaker 3: expect it for me, to remember it. And that's also
Speaker 3: the two specials.
Speaker 4: And so I also like the idea that if someone
Speaker 4: you know isn't tired of my voice, you can buy
Speaker 4: tickets for both shows and you'll get totally different stuff.
Speaker 1: That is so cool. That's very courteous of the audience.
Speaker 1: You really respect for the audience, which I really.
Speaker 4: And I love to write jokes, so this makes me
Speaker 4: a healthy It gives me a healthy way to do it.
Speaker 3: That's great stuff.
Speaker 1: And of course, Prigger You, the mockumentary I Hate Pegger You,
Speaker 1: which you can get now, which you will enjoy. And
Speaker 1: that's literally the half an hour TV show. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a quick watch and you will like it and you'll
Speaker 1: learn about my friends that Prager You.
Speaker 3: So it's cool over there.
Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, well done, my friend, Thank you, thanks
Speaker 1: for having you the man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate you.