1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: Welcome to the TAMAS podcast, where we share how grace, commitment, 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: and cooperation can help couples live the everyday moments of 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: marriage together. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, we are Ted and Dashley Slater. Today we're 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: talking about something surprisingly powerful, micro habits. These tiny almost 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: blink and you miss them actions take less than five minutes, 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: but over time they can completely shift the health of 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: your marriage. We'll look at why these one percent improvements 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: matter so much and share three micro moments we practice. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: If your marriage could use a little more warmth, more intention, 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: or just a few simple wins, this episode is for you. 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: So today we are sharing three tiny or micro habits 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: that can make marriage better. 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: I've never heard this term before. 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't either. 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: It sounds intriguing, it sounds easy. I like micro habits. 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Habits no right, but it seems to be kind of popular. 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: Sweet. Yeah, I'm looking forward to talking about it. 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, okay, so a micro habit. Apparently we all 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: have them, whether we realize it or not. These are 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: habits that take less than five minutes. They're simple, and 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: over time they move us towards bigger goals. So think 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: like you know, improved health or better productivity or financial stability. 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: They're basically small actions that quietly add up in meaningful ways. 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Like taking vitamin in the morning. Sure, it's a small habit. 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I take this. Oh it's like an 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: immune supplement, and I take it all year long. And 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: it seems like when people in the family get sick, 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: I might get a touch of it, but I don't 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: get it as. 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: Badly as everything, because you can't get sick. 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: This is true, right, But I think that that makes 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: a difference that I don't wait till it's cold and 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: flu season to take it, but I take it. 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: That is a very fine, healthy micro habit. 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Yes, well, in another one yep of another micro habit. Well, 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: one of my goals over the last year or two 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: has been to improve my physical health by getting stronger. 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: So one of my micro habits is drinking at least 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: thirty grams of protein in the morning, because I'm not 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: only the mom, but I'm at the life stage where 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: it suddenly hits women and we have to build muscle 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: and getting enough protein helps with that. 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: So you drink thirty grands of prote six stick like 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: a chicken sandwich in the blender, and. 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Oh, that's so close. So I buy those like drinks 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: or powder from the costco. Right, Yes, Well, I got 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: curious about, like what some of the popular micro habits are. Yeah, 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: and so I did what all good researchers do, and 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I googled it. So according to like googles like twenty 52 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: twenty five trending health micro habits data, yep, here are 53 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: a few that show up again and again. Okay, so 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: the first one is drink water first thing in the morning, 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: so like before coffee, before food, drink water. 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: I actually keep a big tub of water next to 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: me in bed. Yeah, and I'm drinking water all night 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: and in the morning. 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 60 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: So I'm a fan of But that's different from what 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: you're saying. It's like intentionally have like a glass of 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: water right after you wake up for you do anything. 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you're drinking it before you go downstairs 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: and drink something else because apparently it rehydrates us, helps 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: with digestion, and gives our brains a clearer start. 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: That's easy. 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: That's a good So it sounds like something you are doing. 68 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 69 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: For me, I'm drinking that protein drink first, but I 70 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: guess I should be drinking water before I drink the 71 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: maybe next. 72 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: To bed, have a glass of water the plants to 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: drink in the morning. 74 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have changed it and not. I 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: used to drink coffee first thing, and I don't do 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: that anymore because I heard that's not great for your 77 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: interests on an empty stomach. That shouldn't be the first 78 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: thing you drink. All right. So another one that came 79 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: up on the list was stretch for five minutes after 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: waking up. And this is nothing fancy. You're just easing 81 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: that morning stiffness, boosting blood flow, and gently waking up 82 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: our bodies. 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: So this sounds intentional, like I stretch, but it's like 84 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: five seconds. 85 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: This sounds like something a couple of our girls would do. Yes, 86 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: it fits time, okay. And then here's one that I 87 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: am trying to be good at, and that's getting sunlight 88 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: within the first ten minutes of waking lucky. So like 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: researchers at the National Institute of Health say that early 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: light exposure helps regulate our circadian rhythm, which improves sleep 91 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: later in the day. So I'm often hipple it's still 92 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: dark since it's you know, fall and winter months, right, 93 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: But I do try to get light as soon as 94 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I can by like walking outside, or even just opening 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: the curtains and letting the light in. 96 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: Can I confess something? Yes, When I hear the word 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: circadian rhythm, yeah, I think of those those bugs that 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: lie dormant underground. 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Yes, cicadas. 100 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: Cicadas. Uh huh, it's not the same thing. 101 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: No, but that sounds I hear the sound. 102 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: Okay, let me say something else, micro habits. When I 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: first heard that term, I thought it was like these 104 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: OCD things some people do, like you have to touch 105 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: the doorknob three times before you actually open it and leave. 106 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: Or I have to be Like as soon as we 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: back out of the driveway and we're going down the street, 108 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: I say to the girls, wait, did I remember the 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: bag with my wallet in it? All? Right? And so 110 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: they have to look. 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: So this is not OCD. This is something else, right Anyway, 112 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: all had to get that out there. 113 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: Yes, here's another big one which I haven't tried, and 114 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: that's to take five deep breasts before opening our phones. 115 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 116 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Apparently that tiny pause keeps us from starting the day 117 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: in reactive mode. Instead of jumping instantly into emails or notifications, 118 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: we're giving our brains a second to set our own tone. 119 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: That's a good idea. So next time you hear me 120 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: breathing deeply, you know, I'm just about ready to check 121 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: my email. Maybe I have just checked my ear. 122 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: Are you okay? 123 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: All right? Yeah? 124 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: One more from the list. There were lots on the list, 125 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: but I had to kind of limit it, all right. 126 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: The last one is stand up every forty five minutes, 127 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: because sitting for long stretches has been linked to all 128 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: kinds of negative health effects. Standing up regularly keeps blood 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: moving and reduces stiffness. Plus it just feels good to 130 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: interrupt the sitting. Like my Apple Watch actually tells me 131 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: to get up every hour. It's like my accountability partner. 132 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: Okay, now there's that. Seems like a good reason to 133 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: have an Apple Watch. Yeah I don't. I don't wear 134 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 2: things on my arm, so I don't have an Apple Watch. 135 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: But maybe I should set my computer up to like 136 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: remind me every hour or something. Get up to something 137 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: doesn't hurt. That's a good idea. 138 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: Do some squats, I don't. Those are good for like 139 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: balance right from standing up. 140 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: Yes, that takes a little more effort. I can stand up. 141 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: Let's start. Let's start with standing up. 142 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: Start small, yes, okay, okay, start small, standing maybe later, okay, 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: all right. So micro habits are like these little one 144 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: percent differences that don't look impressed of it first, but 145 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: they work because they're easy to start, easy to repeat, 146 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: and they build momentum. Excellent, and so James clear popular 147 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: rised popular. He thank you this idea in his book 148 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: Atomic Habits, and he writes that a one percent improvement 149 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: doesn't feel notable in the moment, but over time it 150 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: becomes meaningful and even astounding. So like on page sixteen 151 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: of his book, he charts out the math, like, if 152 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: we get one percent better every day for a year, 153 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: we end up roughly thirty seven times better by the 154 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: end of the year. 155 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: I want to be thirty times by times. 156 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: Yes, But if we get one percent worse each day, 157 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: the trend goes almost to zero. Like tiny changes compound Absolutely. 158 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: That makes sense. It's like a compounding interest exactly. 159 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. He actually says habits are the compound interest of 160 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: self improvement. Look at me, so small gains repeated turn 161 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: into something big. And I mean, if you think about it, 162 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: we're not stagnant. So for not getting better, we're slowly 163 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: getting worse right. 164 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: That cliche. You can't step into the same river twice. 165 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but explain it to me, Like, there's a. 166 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: River, you step in it all the water that you 167 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: just stepped in has just gone down right downstream ten yards, 168 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: so you step in again. It's different water, different experience, 169 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: different fish, different Yeah. 170 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: That makes sense, always changing. Yeah. Well, James Clear also 171 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: says this, and I think it's really encouraging that it 172 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how successful or unsuccessful we are right now. 173 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: What matters is the direction our habits are taking us. 174 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: So we need to focus on our trajectory, not our 175 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: current results. So like if I go to the gym 176 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: and I'm lifting weights and I'm doing that for a month, 177 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not really seeing as much of 178 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: a difference as I want. If I keep doing it, 179 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: like four months from now, I'm going to see even 180 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: more of a difference. But I got to be consistent. 181 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: So okay, so what does this have to do with marriage? 182 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: And I am really restraining myself not to make a 183 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: pun off of James Clear's name. 184 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: That's good. 185 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: It would be disrespectful for me to make a pun 186 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: about his name. 187 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: It's a cool name, Yes, Okay, So, just like we 188 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: can build micro habits for personal growth, we can build 189 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: tiny habits that strengthen our marriage too, so habits that 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: keep us connected and emotionally healthy. So we're going to 191 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: talk about that, but we're going to take a short 192 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: break and when we come back, we'll share three tiny 193 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: or micro habits that can make marriage better. So today 194 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about micro habits, those tiny, almost forgettable actions 195 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: that when practice consistently, creates surprisingly big results in our 196 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: marriages over time. 197 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to it. Let's get to the meat 198 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: of this podcast. 199 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: Well, some marriage experts call these micro habits micro moments, 200 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: and I really love that word moments because it feels 201 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: warm and personal, not clinical. 202 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: See that right, It feels more relational. 203 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: Exactly like it reminds us I think that connection isn't 204 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: built only through grand gestures, but it's also built in 205 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: those small, ordinary points of connection or those moments of connection. 206 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: That's cool. 207 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Well, a website called the Marriage Restoration Project. 208 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: They talk about micro moments as a kind of ingredients 209 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: of a healthy marriage. So they are the tiny interactions 210 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: that feel natural and safe and connected. And they point 211 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: out that when a marriage is struggling, those moments starts 212 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: to fade. That's usually when couple slip into that roommate 213 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: phase where they're living together, but everything starts to feel 214 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: more functional rather than relational. 215 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: Interesting. 216 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: So, okay, I've put together three micro habits or micro 217 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: moments that I thought our listeners might want to practice. 218 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: And most of these are things that you and I 219 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: already do in some form, but here and there I've 220 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: added a few ideas for how we maybe we can 221 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: deepen them a bit or be more intentional. And for 222 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: those of you listening, you might hear these think yep, 223 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: we're already doing that, which is wonderful, so keep going, 224 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: or you might realize, huh, somewhere along the way, we 225 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: got lazy about the small stuff, which is also okay, 226 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: because micro habits are easy to restart because they're tiny 227 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: by design. Right, yeah, all right, you're ready for the 228 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: first one. 229 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: Let's do the first one. 230 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: All right. I had a hard time titling these, so 231 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: we'll see how this comes. All right. The first one 232 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: I have is the goodbye, the hello, and the good 233 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: night kiss moments. And you'll say, notice I used moments, 234 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: not habits. Okay, all right, so like when one of 235 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: us leaves the house head we kiss and usually hug goodbye, 236 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: and at the end of the night we kiss good night. Like. 237 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Those are tiny rituals that help us mark transitions together 238 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: instead of drifting past each other like ships in the night. 239 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: You very well said, yes, and we do do that. 240 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: We do, so, okay, But one thing we don't usually 241 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: do is greet each other with a hugger kiss when 242 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: one of us arrives home. But doctor John Gotman actually 243 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: recommends this in his book The Seven Principles for Making 244 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: Your Work. He sees reunions as a simple opportunity to 245 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: reconnect right when you walk back through the door. 246 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't do that. 247 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: No. 248 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: I sometimes sure, you come in and I'm like, hey, 249 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: welcome back. Did you get my chicken wings? 250 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: And normally you haven't actually asked me to get chicken wings. 251 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: It's just kind of a joke. 252 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a joke. 253 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have. 254 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: I used to I like them more in my head 255 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: than in reality. 256 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, all right. So Gotman also encourages couples to 257 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: make that hug or kiss last at least six seconds. 258 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: So apparently the six second kiss was a TikTok trend 259 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: a few years ago, but I missed it because I'm 260 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: not on TikTok. 261 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: Now I'm not on TikTok either, but it sounds like 262 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: the I don't know if it's true or not, but 263 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: allegedly Disney World or Disneyland, Disney trains their employees or 264 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: cast members that when you know the ones that are 265 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: in costume, like as is Mini Mouse, that if Mini 266 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: Mouse is getting a hug, that they should keep hugging 267 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: until the child lets go. 268 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that, but I think I heard it 269 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: from you. 270 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: You did. Yeah, I think it's true though, which. 271 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: Us somewhere else also like their suit characters. 272 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: So that's kind of a fun one to try. Yeah, 273 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: you're hugging. I'm like, I'm gonna let you unhug. 274 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: First, but if we both try, then we're never going 275 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: to get anything done all day long. 276 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: Yep. 277 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: Well, the science behind the six seconds is actually pretty fascinating. Okay, 278 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: So research shows that six seconds is long enough to 279 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: increase oxytonin, which is the bonding hormone, and decrease corticol 280 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: which is one of our main stress hormones. Yes, and 281 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: a six second kiss builds what Gotman calls rituals of connection, 282 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: so you know, it's it boosts something he says is essential, 283 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: which is fondness and admiration, and those feelings help steady 284 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: us when we hit the normal rough patches that every 285 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: marriage goes through. 286 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: Okay, should we demonstrate no. 287 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: This is not a visual podcast. 288 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: You can imagine. We'll get our list real close. 289 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: Oh my word. It also if we want to go 290 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: into love language, is it can fill that physical touch 291 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: love language tank also all right, I'm just going to 292 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: ignore your kissing sounds into the microphone. 293 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: That's wise. 294 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: All right? You ready for the second one? Oh? 295 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I was born ready. 296 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to take a break first though. Come on, 297 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: and when we come back we'll talk about the second one. Okay, 298 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: all right, So today we're talking about those micro habits 299 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: or moments that, when practice consistently, creates surprisingly big results 300 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: in our marriages over time. All right. The second one 301 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: is the thank you for moments. 302 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for. I don't know where this is going, 303 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: all right. 304 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: Well, you and I look for moments throughout the day 305 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: where we can say thank you for and be specific, 306 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: like thank you for taking out the trash or thank 307 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: you for going to the grocery store, or thank you 308 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: for whatever it is, thank you for bringing chicken wings home, 309 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: as you said earlier. Right, well, I mean back in 310 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: episode one oh one, it sounds like a college course. 311 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: We talked about how the four matters like remember then 312 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: never naked thank you back in episode on. 313 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll have to go back to that episode and 314 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: see what that doesn't mean? What you think it? 315 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: No? Wow? All right, so the four shows that we 316 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: noticed what the other person is doing and what we're 317 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: grateful for, Like a naked thank you is just thank you, Yeah, 318 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: thanks for. 319 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: Writing this point, for including this point. 320 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Right, that's a not naked thank you because you're being specific. 321 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm being specific, right. 322 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: All right? Well, I read an article online that recommended 323 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: a bedtime micro habit called the one minute Gratitude jot 324 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,479 Speaker 1: kind of Well, the idea is simple, when we're exhausted, 325 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: we don't want to make a whole gratitude list, but 326 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: jotting down one thing we're thankful for or creates what 327 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: the author called a quick mental shift before bed. They 328 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: said it helps rewire our brain over time to focus 329 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: on what's working instead of what's missing. So how does this. 330 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: Connect to the say that again, that was a good sentence. Yeah, 331 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: it's working. 332 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: It helps rewire our brain over time to focus on 333 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: what's working instead of what's missing. 334 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, because like when I lay in bed 335 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: at at the end of the day, I'm like, Man, 336 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: what a piece of junk screwed up there? I can't 337 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: believe I did that? Come on, loser, These are the 338 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: bad words that go through my head. But if I 339 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: flip the script and I and I'm like, thank you 340 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: Lord for such? Is it directed toward God or is 341 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: it just a. 342 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: General Well I am this was not a Christian focused article, 343 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: but it can be changed that way because I mean, 344 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, God's the giver of all good things. 345 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: We imagine. I mean, that's sad. Some people may feel thankful, 346 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: but they don't know who they're thankful to. 347 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, well anyway, so how does the one minute 348 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: gratitude connect to thank you for moments? Well, I think 349 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: that the mental rewiring that they talk about is exactly 350 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: what's happening when we take a second to notice and 351 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: express specific gratitude to our spouse, Like we are choosing 352 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: to focus on what our spouse is doing rather than 353 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: what they aren't doing, and I think that adds up 354 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: over time. 355 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: It does, Yeah, because there's a lot of stuff I 356 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: don't do. There's an unending list of things that you 357 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: could think of. I can't believe you didn't finish that painting, 358 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: the planting. There's happening. 359 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: There's so much to do. We don't get it all done. 360 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: And thank you for being grateful for what I do do. 361 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: Yes, that was a not naked thank you there, thank 362 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: you for being specific? All right? All right? Number three, Yes, 363 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: the I love you chore moments. 364 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: All right. 365 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: So there's an article on allprodad dot com title how. 366 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: Much research did you did you do for this podcast? 367 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear I like to bring another people those thoughts, 368 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: not just throughout my own. It's good because there is 369 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot I do not so allprodad dot com yeah, 370 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: titled twelve micro moves for your marriage. So I guess 371 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: he's calling it moves, not habits or moments. One of 372 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: the moves is to do a chore your wife dislikes, 373 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: and I think it goes both ways. So I'm calling 374 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: this the I love you chore moment rather than a 375 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: micro move. So ted, we've been doing this one for 376 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: a while. Like I don't really like to make the bed, 377 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: so you make it every morning, and when I see 378 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: it neatly made, I feel loved. 379 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: I've gotten good at making the bed. 380 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: M hm. 381 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: I have tricks now. If you ask me to fold 382 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: the fitted sheet and I wouldn't do good in that, yeah, 383 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: but making the bed, yeah, I can get her done 384 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: within sixty. 385 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Seconds, see under five minutes there. Sometimes I occasionally I 386 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: have to make it and I'm like, this sucks, but okay, 387 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: And like I do the dishes most of the time. Yeah, things, 388 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: And I take most of the longer commutes like those 389 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: forty five minute one way drives to danceror th thee 390 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: which is more than five minutes. But I know that 391 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: it drains you. And so it's from like the same 392 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: spirit of it's an I love you chore moment. 393 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 394 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: So, and I think there are lots of those little 395 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: things that you know, we all have preferences on what 396 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: chores we like to do and don't like to do, 397 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: and so we can find one or two that we 398 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: know our spouse really dislikes to do it. It's helpful. 399 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: You don't like cleaning the litter boxes to you, I 400 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: just do it. 401 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the girls should do that. But yeah, so how do. 402 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: I figure out what you don't like to do? Do 403 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: I ask you? Or do you sort of just start 404 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: grumbling when you're doing something. That'll be a clue. 405 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: If you watch my attitude, I can tell you a 406 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: chore I don't like. I guess I do not mind 407 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: doing the dishes, Okay. 408 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: However, however, putting them away. 409 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: I do not like coming home after doing that forty 410 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: five minute drive there and back and not getting home 411 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: till like nine, Yeah, and then having to do dishes 412 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: that are in the sink. That's good, Yeah, because I'm tired, yep, 413 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: and I've been gone and I probably didn't even make 414 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: the dishes. You probably didn't, So that is a chore 415 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: I don't like. 416 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. 417 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: But in general I don't mind necessarily mind the dishes, 418 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: and the girls do help with like the clean ones. 419 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: That's right, all right. 420 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: Well. One of doctor Gotman's mottos is small things often so, 421 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: as the Gotman Institute says, love is cultivated during the 422 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: grind of everyday life. It's the seemingly meaningless, little moments 423 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: of connection that are the most meaningful of all sounds 424 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: like the way Christmas movie shouldn't. 425 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: Well, it makes sense because I may never get around 426 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: to the grand gestures, so might as well do the 427 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: little gestures and they they. 428 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: Build up up, Yeah, they do, all right. To recap, 429 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: here are three micro habits or moments we can practice 430 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: to make our marriages better. One the goodbye, the hello, 431 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: and the good night kiss moments, two the thank you 432 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: for moments, and three the I love you you chore moments. 433 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: That's good, all. 434 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: Right, We're going to take one more break and when 435 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll share this week's US Time to challenge. 436 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: So this week's US Time Challenge challenge you know as 437 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: I paused for you there, thank you. It is simple, 438 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: choose one micro habit and practice it every day this week. Okay, 439 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: that sounds simple, but it takes effort and intentionality, especially 440 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: if you haven't been doing it, and it could take 441 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: up to five minutes, right, four hours? 442 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: Okay? 443 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Well, and some of them, like if you say they 444 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: did you know they could be one we mentioned like 445 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: say they do the kiss one. 446 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: That's your assignment this week is to kiss. 447 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: Multiple times during the day, but that takes us three times. 448 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: Well, we could try the green welcome home. Yeah ritual. 449 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: It's weird because you work at home, so it's not 450 00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: like we have. 451 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, come home from work and the kids 452 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: scramble up and. 453 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah that could be why we don't have that one. 454 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, we could try that, all right. So those 455 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: listening choose one practice it. It could be one we mentioned, 456 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: or it could be something unique to your relationship. All right. Well, 457 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us on the Team US podcast. 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