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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country,

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Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is

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Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most

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Speaker 2: can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I

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Speaker 2: gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most

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Speaker 1: Here I am.

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Speaker 3: Lord, Use me.

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Speaker 2: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to The Charlie Kirkshow. Hour two

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Speaker 4: starts now. I'm so excited about this guest, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: get right into it. That is Steven Miller, White House

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Speaker 4: Deputy chief of Staff and Homeland Security Advisor. He is

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Speaker 4: one of the architects of ending the scourge of illegal

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Speaker 4: immigration in this country. Deputy Chief of Staff, Steven Miller,

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. Great to be here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, honored to have you. Let's start right in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: Last night.

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Speaker 4: News has just broke that the three illegals that attacked

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Speaker 4: this ice officer last night were all let in under Biden.

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Speaker 4: Are all Venezuelan illegals. What is your message to Jacob Frye,

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Speaker 4: to Tim Waltz, to Keith Ellison that seemed to be

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Speaker 4: stoking the flames of actual insurrection in the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: We also have rumblings in Philadelphia. What is your message

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Speaker 4: of them, Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, as you as you mentioned, the

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Speaker 5: the three illegal aliens who were involved in this potentially

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Speaker 5: have very easily turned into a murder, and the fact

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Speaker 5: surely would have been a murder, was an attempted murder,

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Speaker 5: but for the fact that the ice officer acted heroically

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Speaker 5: But what we've learned is that those individuals involved in

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Speaker 5: this attempted murder were let into the country by Joe

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Speaker 5: Biden as part of his four year long policy of

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Speaker 5: mass releasing illegal aliens into the United States. And so

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Speaker 5: it's just an important reminder to think about where we

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Speaker 5: were just one year ago when you had an administration

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Speaker 5: that's right, just a year ago, right a year ago,

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Speaker 5: you had an administration that every day was letting thousands

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Speaker 5: adult men in most cases, into the country, resettled on

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Speaker 5: tax paradigm, to commit unimaginable numbers of crimes and spread

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Speaker 5: is just a reminder of what a unbearable calamity we

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Speaker 5: of invasion and sabotage. UH. These are the these are

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Speaker 5: the illegals that are being shielded from deportation by the mayor,

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Speaker 5: the Attorney general, and the governor. UH. In the three

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Speaker 5: and the three of those individuals, you you have a

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Speaker 5: perfect illustration of how radical left democratic governance consumes and

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Speaker 5: destroys any paradise, any place over which they exert control.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to go back very far in time

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Speaker 5: where Minnesota was the with this scene, the picture, the

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Speaker 5: epitome of American idealic living in the words, you had

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Speaker 5: to go back in time to Minnesota as a place

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Speaker 5: where the idea of having massive Simali refugee welfare scams

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Speaker 3: All the welfare.

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Speaker 5: It would have believed you if you tried so. These

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Speaker 5: individuals are waging a campaign of insurrection against the federal

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Speaker 5: direct challenge in every respect to the authority of the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're very glad to hear you say that. We

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Speaker 6: clearly sees this as a big test. They recognize the

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Speaker 6: gotten away with what they did under the Biden administration,

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Speaker 6: that they brought in these fifteen plus million people, And

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Speaker 6: if they can say it's too difficult to remove them,

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Speaker 6: they can get away with this atrocity. And we're very glad,

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Speaker 6: of course, to hear that you recognize those same stakes.

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Speaker 6: When you say it's insurrection is of course a strong word.

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Speaker 6: Do we have to look at possible charges not just

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to speak to any charges that

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Speaker 5: whatever decisions the Department of Justice makes, whoever facts they analyze,

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Speaker 5: are a result of Voj's analysis of those facts. But

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Speaker 5: what I would say very clearly is that you only

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Speaker 5: have to read their own words and hear their own

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Speaker 5: words and judge their own conduct. Understand that this is

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Speaker 5: clearly an insurgency against the federal government. They are describing

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Speaker 5: the federal government as an occupying Let me just think

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Speaker 5: about that for a second. The federal government is responsible

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Speaker 5: jurisdiction and authority over immigration law because we have one

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Speaker 5: proposition that Fry and Ellison and Waltz are trying to test.

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Speaker 5: They are asserting that they have the unfettered right to

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Speaker 5: from organized agitators against federal forces to prevent those federal

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Speaker 5: President Trump have cleared its candidacy in June of twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 5: we've had a great national debate about immigration, immigration, enforcement,

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Speaker 5: and sovereignty. The issue, of course, was one of the

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Speaker 5: was an even bigger issue in the twenty twenty four campaign.

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Speaker 5: And so we had this great national debate and dialogue

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Speaker 5: on immigration. President Trump beat Joe Biden. Then he beat

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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris, so he defeated two Democrat presidential candidates in

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Speaker 5: And then after we won, the first major piece of

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Speaker 5: enforcement operations in American history. So Americans voted, then the

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Speaker 5: this agenda. And now you have Democrat politicians and they're radical,

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Speaker 5: veto the result of a democratic process. In other words,

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Speaker 5: they use violence to override those That is what you're seeing,

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Speaker 5: That is what is happening.

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Speaker 4: I completely agree, and Steven, I think it's fair to

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Speaker 4: call these, you know, communist front groups. I think it's

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Speaker 4: fair to call these militia thugs that are inspired and

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Speaker 4: trained by Communist Front groups. I have so many questions

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Speaker 4: for you, Steven, so I'm going to try and get

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Speaker 4: through them quickly. But I remember you telling the world,

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Speaker 4: telling me that the last message you got from Charlie

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Speaker 4: was we have to root out the funding networks. So

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Speaker 4: that's question number one, but second part of that question.

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Speaker 4: So I would love to know an update on where

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Speaker 4: we stand and rooting out some of these funding networks.

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Speaker 4: But there's so much else going on. President Trump has

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Speaker 4: now announced that seventy five different country he is pausing

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Speaker 4: asking what about Mexico? What about India? So I'll let

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Speaker 4: you chime in on that. And then defunding sanctuary cities.

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Speaker 4: All of these are different pieces of this mosaic that

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Speaker 4: you are working on, all part of your portfolio. The

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Speaker 4: floor is yours, take any of those that you want.

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Speaker 7: Steven Miller, well, yes, you're right that the last message

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Speaker 7: that Charlie sent me was about dismantling the left wings

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Speaker 5: Violence, and shortly after that, in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination,

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Speaker 5: President Trump issued a historic executive order that we refer

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Speaker 5: roadmap in a structure. We're treating these UH, this fifth column,

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Speaker 5: and the Since then, there's been enormous progress made, and

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Speaker 5: we would all like we would all of course, like

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Speaker 5: enormous progress that has been made in in mapping out

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Speaker 5: the kinds of work when you're talking about this effectively

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Speaker 5: counterinsurgency works we're describing here, and sometimes counterinsurgency work, it

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Speaker 5: you can you can and should get quick hits and

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Speaker 5: quick arrests. Absolutely it can't. It can take some time

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Speaker 5: to develop a full picture for purpose of then shattering

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Speaker 5: these organizations too, to unburrow from underneath the rocks where

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Speaker 4: Candles were lit on Bondai Beach by families, by children,

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Speaker 5: achieve victory. And so the entire system, judicial, bureaucratic, every

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Speaker 5: part of it, the NGOs, all of it, international pressures,

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Speaker 5: everything is stacked against us having sovereign control over our

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Speaker 5: borders and immigration system. For the first time in living memory,

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Speaker 5: the United States had net negative migration. This hasn't happened

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Speaker 5: since the modern age. This hasn't happened since air travel

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Speaker 5: was what available. Like the last data putting you have

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Speaker 5: to go to was the time I wish the Third

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Speaker 5: World didn't have access to airplanes, right, Like, there weren't

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Speaker 5: a lot of airports in the countries that we're setting

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Speaker 5: migrants to us that were responsible for all this immigration

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Speaker 5: growth in recent decades. So you have to you're going

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Speaker 5: way back to a time period in which it was

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Speaker 5: much harder for the Third world, the third world regions

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Speaker 5: of the planet to empty out into the United States.

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Speaker 5: And so this is an unprecedented achievement. Everybody said it

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Speaker 5: would be impossible, and President Trump achieved it. And it's

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Speaker 5: a reminder that we need to stay positive. We need

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Speaker 5: to stay optimistic. We need to keep moving forward. We

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Speaker 5: need to keep delivering for the American people.

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Speaker 4: Stephen Miller, Deputy White House Deputy Chief of Staff and

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Speaker 4: Homeland Security Advisor, you are the architect of so much

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Speaker 4: that is holding the base together, that is keeping us optimistic.

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Speaker 4: That you let us know that we are moving forward.

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Speaker 4: So please continue answer. We have your back one hundred percent,

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Speaker 4: and you're doing great work. What you have turned the

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Speaker 4: Titanic in a single year. You've secured the border. The

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Speaker 4: Trump administration is doing phenomenal work.

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Speaker 3: We have your back. Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. It's all because of President Trump. No president

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Speaker 5: in American history has accomplished more. He done more in

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Speaker 5: a year than our greatest presidents have done in eight years.

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Speaker 5: So keep supporting your president, Keep supporting President Trump, Keep

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Speaker 5: rallying behind the flag, keep rallying behind this administration. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well done. Thank you, Stephen Miller. We hope to

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Speaker 4: have you back on a heave as soon as these

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Speaker 4: stories anytime evolved.

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Speaker 1: That was so good.

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Speaker 6: Just it's so I mean, he was in the first administration.

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Speaker 6: He did a lot in that first administration. Yet it's

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Speaker 6: still it's they accomplished a lot in those four years,

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Speaker 6: and yet it's so clear they knew more of what

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Speaker 6: they needed to do.

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Speaker 3: This time around.

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Speaker 6: There's more of a focus on it, and I'll be frank,

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Speaker 6: I think there's more resolve too. I think there had

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Speaker 6: to be a few false starts that first aben this one.

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Speaker 6: There's much more of a let's be frank, ruthlessness about it. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 6: you know what their strategy is going to be totally.

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Speaker 6: You have to beat it well.

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Speaker 4: And I remember thinking that the number one obstacle that

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Speaker 4: we were gonna have to overcome as a as a base,

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Speaker 4: as a movement was to not get weakned, to not

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Speaker 4: give into the SOB stories, to not give into the propaganda.

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Speaker 4: And so they're playing their old tricks again in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 4: They're thinking that this is going to break our resolve.

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Speaker 4: And when you hear somebody like Steven Miller, who is

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Speaker 4: an architect of the immigration program, coming from the White

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Speaker 4: House from President Trump, you realize that they are not

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Speaker 4: going to fold. They are going to double triple down

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Speaker 4: if they have to invoke the Insurrection Act. I absolutely

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Speaker 4: think that they will. Whether or not they have to

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Speaker 4: is a question. But this is the test of this administration. Stephen,

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Speaker 4: if you have any doubt, if you have any doubt

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Speaker 4: of their resolve, listen to Steven Miller. Listen to that back.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna post that all over social media as well.

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Speaker 4: we do have Nick Freedis out on the line. I'm

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Speaker 4: so sorry that that we were supposed to have you

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Speaker 4: much earlier, and you've been such a champ waiting Steven Miller.

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Speaker 3: What can you do?

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Speaker 4: He's he's got a lot, a lot to say, But

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Speaker 4: thank you so much for joining the show. I reached

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Speaker 4: out to you, Nick because I see in you somebody

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Speaker 4: after Charlie, after we lost Charlie.

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Speaker 3: After he was killed.

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Speaker 4: There is certain voices, certain names, certain personalities with the

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Speaker 4: right disposition, the right internal constitution that I believe God

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Speaker 4: is raising up and promoting to help bring. You know,

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Speaker 4: we're filling the back lines here and reinforcing the front lines,

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Speaker 4: so that is what you are one of those people.

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Speaker 4: So please just introduce yourself to our audience and and welcome.

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Speaker 8: Oh gosh, well, I'm honored. It was an honor to

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Speaker 8: actually get to speak at at AMST this year. You

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Speaker 8: guys did an incredible job. It was a wonderful tribute

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Speaker 8: to Charlie. But yeah, just a little bit about me.

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Speaker 8: As of yesterday, I'm no longer a member of the

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Speaker 8: Virginia House of Delegates, but I served as a state

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Speaker 8: legislature legislator there.

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Speaker 1: For ten years.

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Speaker 8: Before that, I did some time in the United States

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Speaker 8: Army with eighty second Airborne twenty fifth Infantry, did a

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Speaker 8: couple of combat tours in Iraq with first Special Forces Group.

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Speaker 8: But more than any of that, I'm a husband and

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Speaker 8: a father. I've been married to my high school sweetheart

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Speaker 8: for twenty six years. I tricked her into marrying me.

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Speaker 8: We had a very very small graduating class, she didn't

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Speaker 8: have a lot of options, and then we have wonderful

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Speaker 8: kids twenty two, twenty and eighteen.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's just a little bit about me.

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Speaker 4: So funny backstory here is, my wife follows you on

557
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Speaker 4: Instagram and she kept going, you need to get this

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Speaker 4: guy on the show. You need to get this guy

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Speaker 4: in the show. And I kept saying, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't have a contact for him.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna figure it out.

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Speaker 4: We'll figure it out, and you know, and then you're

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Speaker 4: at Amfest and I'm showing picture of you on stage

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Speaker 4: my wife and she's like, will you finally get him

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Speaker 4: on the show?

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Speaker 3: I was like, Yeah, we absolutely will.

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Speaker 4: It's so much of what you say resonates with exactly

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Speaker 4: what Charlie would say. You have this such a drum

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Speaker 4: beat about family, marriage, faith, owning your own block, taking

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Speaker 4: responsibility for your own action. So much of your political

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Speaker 4: commentary originates out of that, just like it did for Charlie.

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Speaker 4: Explain why that's important to you, and explain I believe

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Speaker 4: it's the path forward. I believe that we don't get

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Speaker 4: we don't have a country if we lose our virtue.

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Speaker 4: And that seems to actually be the core of your message.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's absolutely true.

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Speaker 8: I was listening to you know, people are arguing about

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Speaker 8: this now on the right where we're having this internal

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Speaker 8: battle and we have some people arguing for more liberty

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Speaker 8: and some people are arguing for more order. And the

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Speaker 8: bottom line is, if you want to if you want

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Speaker 8: a civilization that actually has ordered liberty, where we can

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Speaker 8: actually work and cooperate and create and build together, then

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Speaker 8: virtue has to be.

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Speaker 1: A part of that.

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Speaker 8: And how do you achieve that if you don't have

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Speaker 8: if it's not built upon something that actually provides something transcendent.

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Speaker 8: If you want to objective truth and objective morality, I

589
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Speaker 8: got news. There's only one place I know to actually

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Speaker 8: find those things, and that's through Christ. And I think

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Speaker 8: one of the things that I always admired so much

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Speaker 8: about Charlie was that it has become very very easy

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Speaker 8: and popular on the right to talk about what we're

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Speaker 8: fighting against, right because every day we get new examples

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Speaker 8: of what we're fighting against. But I think Charlie understood

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Speaker 8: that the best soldiers are not the people that hate

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Speaker 8: what they're fighting against, are the ones that love what

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Speaker 8: they're fighting for. And so when you put the emphasis

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Speaker 8: on your relationship with God, the relationship you have with

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Speaker 8: your spouse, your children, that's.

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Speaker 1: What actually gives you the energy.

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Speaker 8: It's what gives you the discipline sometimes when motivation may

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Speaker 8: may fall a little bit short, to keep going and

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Speaker 8: to keep fighting, because when you know what it's for,

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, the obstacles don't seem so great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that's really well said.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I have to do a better job

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Speaker 4: of that of promoting what we are for what Because

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Speaker 4: we love this country. I always say I was born here,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to die here. My kids born here, They're

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Speaker 4: probably gonna die here. It's probably true for my grandchildren.

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Speaker 4: God I hope so. And I love this country so

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Speaker 4: much that I'm willing to step into roles that I

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Speaker 4: never imagined for myself, especially after Charlie. I'm willing to

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Speaker 4: continue putting it all on the line for this country.

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Speaker 4: And when you say stuff like that, it really inspires me. Nick,

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Speaker 4: and you know you but again, you have taken your

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Speaker 4: faith and you put it into action, not only in Virginia,

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Speaker 4: but you know, I'm looking at your Twitter feed and

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Speaker 4: you're you're talking about the primary season. We should be

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Speaker 4: replacing weak Republicans in safe districts. This is what you

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Speaker 4: will have the best chance of winning. And the others

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Speaker 4: will get the point. So you are somebody that then

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Speaker 4: takes your faith, your your convictions, your love of this country.

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Speaker 4: You're putting it into action. Explain why that's important. I could,

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Speaker 4: because a lot of people, you know, I think it's

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Speaker 4: like post so will say this a lot. It's like,

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Speaker 4: you know, look at all the black pillars the doomers.

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Speaker 4: Show me which ones have done anything, Show me which

631
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Speaker 4: ones have gotten out, and chase some ballots that have

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Speaker 4: knocked on doors, and you will.

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Speaker 3: You will.

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Speaker 4: We'll separate the week from the chaft really really quickly.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, He's absolutely right.

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Speaker 8: The people that the people that are most convinced were doomed,

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Speaker 8: have probably put in the least amount of effort to

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Speaker 8: save anything. And I think when we look at, Okay,

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Speaker 8: what is the strategy going forward, the thing I'm always

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Speaker 8: going to start with is what is the thing you

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Speaker 8: have most control over in your life? Because if you're

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Speaker 8: spending hours of time on campaigns and on social media

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Speaker 8: debating with people that are not even going to give

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Speaker 8: you a fair hearing, while in the meantime your children

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Speaker 8: are being doctrinated at school, I'm going to argue that

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Speaker 8: you're probably not investing your time where it can have

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Speaker 8: the most impact.

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Speaker 1: So focus on that first.

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Speaker 8: What can you do about yourself, What can you do

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Speaker 8: about your family, What you can do about your family,

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Speaker 8: your community, etc. But then when it does come to

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Speaker 8: the political world, the other thing that's been frustrating is

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Speaker 8: watching people behave as if well, there's no real difference

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Speaker 8: between the two parties. We had three hundred thousand people

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Speaker 8: that showed up to vote for Governor Glenn Younkin that

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Speaker 8: didn't show up to vote in this last election. And

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Speaker 8: you look at what Democrats are doing in the first

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Speaker 8: twenty four hours that they've taken control, trying to turn

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Speaker 8: Virginia into California, and it's like, look, no, you have

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Speaker 8: to participate in the political process. I'm not saying you

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Speaker 8: got to run for office. I'm not saying you've got

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Speaker 8: to make it your whole life, right, but this idea

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Speaker 8: that you're going to stand back because you're either above

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Speaker 8: all of that, or well, you just don't feel like

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Speaker 8: that's what they should be talking about from the pulpit garbage.

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Speaker 1: It's done.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, you're not going to find biblical justification for that.

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Speaker 8: What you need to be doing is focusing on how

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Speaker 8: do you be salt in light in every area that

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Speaker 8: you and encounter with, and then how do you be

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Speaker 8: obedient to what God's laid out as your purpose in

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Speaker 8: this life. And one of those realms is the political

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Speaker 8: and these people that will say, well, Mick, you know

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Speaker 8: you can't legislate morality. Ten years in the General Assembly.

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Speaker 8: You want to know how many bills I voted on

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Speaker 8: that had no moral premise.

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Speaker 1: Zero.

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Speaker 8: All legislation is built upon a moral premise. And so

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Speaker 8: whereas I don't believe that we can proselytize through the sword,

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Speaker 8: I don't believe that we're supposed to use government as

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Speaker 8: a mechanism to compel people to believe what I believe

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Speaker 8: about God. By the same token, all law is predicated

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Speaker 8: upon some set of moral principles. I would like my

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Speaker 8: moral principles to be represented in that law. And so

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Speaker 8: I do believe I have an obligation to go out

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Speaker 8: and to speak about these things, and to not only

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Speaker 8: I live my life to speak for itself. Because one

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Speaker 8: of the reasons why so many young people were attracted

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Speaker 8: to what Charlie had to say was not simply because

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Speaker 8: he gave incredibly good, academically and intellectually rigorous arguments. But

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Speaker 8: when you took a look at that guy's life, his marriage,

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Speaker 8: his relationship with his kids, his friends, that was something

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Speaker 8: to wear. No matter what they were to be told

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Speaker 8: don't know what it is, and I don't know what

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Speaker 8: and I want it. That's somebody who's worth listening to.

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Speaker 8: Not because he's got a degree that he's pointing to,

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Speaker 8: but because he's got a lifetime worth of accomplishments at

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing that we.

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Speaker 8: Need to do more of, is actually demonstrate to people

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Speaker 8: what it is that they're fighting for.

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Speaker 1: And nobody did it better than Charlie.

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Speaker 6: I think that it's actually an incredibly powerful point there

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Speaker 6: nick that we say it. We've ran into so many

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Speaker 6: people who would say, I disagree with Charlie on X

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Speaker 6: y Z thing, but that magnetic pull because he lived

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Speaker 6: and past it was all real, and I think people

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Speaker 6: seeing that, and I love that you speak to that.

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Speaker 6: That's one of the strongest things that you can offer.

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Speaker 6: And it was always funny because Charlie would run into

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Speaker 3: Why? Why do you disagree?

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Speaker 6: You can have all of these same things, And but

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Speaker 6: it ties into what you just said, which is it

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726
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Speaker 3: We have our own special name. Exactly, it's Virginia.

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Speaker 8: We were like first, all right, so we get bring

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Speaker 8: bring back the House of Burgesses.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't pull that.

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Speaker 6: They have to pull up the House of Burgesses if

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Speaker 4: Virginia and I think of you know, George Washington, and

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Speaker 3: Have to have. The Whig statesman.

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Speaker 4: I love that stuff. Virginia should be a red state.

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Speaker 4: But that's this is the immigration full circle to Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 4: Demographic replacement in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: Demographic replacement by bureaucraft Buia. Yeah, exactly, northern Virginia.

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Speaker 4: But if you're going to be a Republican working in DC,

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Speaker 4: you probably want to live in Northern Virginia. It's still

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Speaker 4: that way. Uh So, Nick, what are you fighting for?

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Speaker 4: Distill it as you can.

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Speaker 8: Sure, I mean, first and foremost, it's it's this idea.

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Speaker 8: If you were to ask kind of what we think

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Speaker 8: our mission is. It's the idea of godly men and

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Speaker 8: Because the idea is is, you show me a country

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Speaker 8: comprised of those sorts of people, and I'll show you

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Speaker 8: a country whose politics you don't got to worry about, right, So,

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Speaker 8: so it always starts with this idea of Okay, as

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Speaker 8: a man, what am I trying to do to be

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Speaker 8: the sort of man that God wants me to be,

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Speaker 8: to be the sort of man that my husband or

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Speaker 8: my wife needs, to be, the sort of man that

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Speaker 8: my children need.

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Speaker 1: And when I'm focusing on those things, what ends up developing.

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Speaker 8: As a consequence of that is I get a lot

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Speaker 8: closer to being the sort of man that my community

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Speaker 8: needs and that my country needs. And so I want

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Speaker 8: people to once again be focused on what is their

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Speaker 8: obligation to God, what is their obligation to their family?

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Speaker 8: And then how are they developing the spiritual, emotional, physical, personal,

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Speaker 8: intellectual deals to.

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Speaker 1: Be able to do that.

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Speaker 8: With respect to my country, I want a free country,

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Speaker 8: but what does that mean? I want a free country

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Speaker 8: that is actually rooted in the idea that The only

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Speaker 8: way that you can have liberty that makes any sense

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Speaker 8: is that if you actually have a culture which is

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Speaker 8: committed to truth, which is committed to virtue. And so

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Speaker 8: when I look at the way that our founders actually

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Speaker 8: formed this government, I think they were onto something. It

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Speaker 8: was this idea that we're going to reserve the vast

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Speaker 8: majority of decision making power to the individual citizen. To

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Speaker 8: the extent that we have government, find at the local level,

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Speaker 8: they're going to be the ones that deal with the

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Speaker 8: things that are the most intimate to your day to

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Speaker 8: day lives. Then we have the states, which are also

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Speaker 8: supposed to operate as sovereign entities within their jurisdictions. And

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Speaker 8: when it comes to the federal government, it's only going

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Speaker 8: to worry about those things which genuinely impact the country

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Speaker 8: as a whole. The federal government was never meant to

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Speaker 8: micromanage our education, our healthcare, our economy. Stephen Miller is

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Speaker 8: one hundred percent accurate when we say that the federal

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Speaker 8: bureaucracy is one of the greatest threats to a free

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Speaker 8: people ever, because those bureaucracies have they have goals and

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Speaker 8: objectives of their own which run contrary to a free state.

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Speaker 8: And so I want a government which once again understands

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Speaker 8: its proper role. I would argue, in God's created order,

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Speaker 8: you know, again, keep us safe and force contract law,

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Speaker 8: make sure that nobody is invading the country. But I

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Speaker 8: don't need a government to try to play daddy for everybody.

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Speaker 1: I need a government to stay within.

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Speaker 8: Its proper role so that free people can figure things

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Speaker 8: out through voluntary cooperation. And I think if we could

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Speaker 8: get back to that point of understanding that if you

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Speaker 8: really want to be free, then that also includes a

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Speaker 8: great deal of.

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Speaker 1: Personal response ability.

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Speaker 8: And Adams probably said it best when he said our

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Speaker 8: constitution is written for a moral and religious people and

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Speaker 8: is totally unsuited to the government of any other. And

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Speaker 8: so it's about once again recognizing that if we can,

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Speaker 8: if we again have that shared commitment for objective truth,

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Speaker 8: objective morality, if we can understand the author of objective

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Speaker 8: truth and morality, then I think we can have this

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Speaker 8: sort of place where we're so good at governing ourselves

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Speaker 8: and in our daily interactions with our family, with our friends,

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Speaker 8: with our community.

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Speaker 1: That the idea that we would need the.

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Speaker 8: Government to try to run in and micro all these

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Speaker 8: aspects would just seem absurd to it.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just such a it's such a paradigm

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Speaker 4: shift what you're describing that I just so many people

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Speaker 4: would not even be able because the Left has let

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Speaker 4: us down this path for basically a century of big

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Speaker 4: brother government taking care of us. That to fully feel

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Speaker 4: empowered to enjoy the totality of your individual agency will,

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Speaker 4: I mean it really will take a revival. I really

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Speaker 4: believe that. And here's I just say, this is the

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Speaker 4: Charlie kirkshow here's Chary in his own words, I think,

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Speaker 4: describing exactly what you're talking about with a student on

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Speaker 4: campus four fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: The practical solution, we don't have to think.

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Speaker 2: We need to point people to God and eventually to

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, and that is the solution. People need to

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Speaker 2: humble themselves before the Lord. They need to go back

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Speaker 2: They need to stop engaging in debauchery and limitless amounts

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Speaker 2: of drinking and the sins of the flesh, and understand

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Speaker 2: that there's a God who loves them that wants them

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Speaker 2: to live a certain way. And it's not a matter

870
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Speaker 2: of the feminist movement or the Black Lives Matter movement.

871
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Speaker 2: We need a movement that is centered around spiritual, eternal principles.

872
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Speaker 2: But a revival will only happen with repentance, and repentance

873
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: is at odd with pride. There is a God and

874
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: we are not him. Those two things are fundamental towards

875
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: having hopefully the humility of getting in front of your creator,

876
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Speaker 2: understanding that you fall short of the glory of God

877
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Speaker 2: with the eyes on the cross, and understanding the significance

878
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Speaker 2: of what the cross is and what it means for

879
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Speaker 2: your life.

880
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Speaker 4: I just love hearing I just preach it, You just

881
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: preach it repentance. That line about repentance just got me

882
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Speaker 4: go ahead, Well, I.

883
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Speaker 8: Think it's also I've noticed this, you know, since Charlie.

884
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Speaker 8: Since Charlie was murdered, I've spoken and at several universities,

885
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Speaker 8: to include cal Berkeley Right, which is not exactly a

886
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Speaker 8: bastion of conservative thought. And it is amazing to me

887
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Speaker 8: how few questions I get on politics, at least in

888
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Speaker 8: compared to what I would have gotten a year ago.

889
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Speaker 8: The vast majority of questions I'm getting now are about

890
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Speaker 8: how do I be a better man, how do I

891
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Speaker 8: raise the sort of family I want how do I

892
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 8: how do I how do I continue to foster an

893
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 8: important relationship with God? And I had I had one student,

894
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 8: actually an amfes come up and he goes, how do

895
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 8: I stand up for my faith when it's so difficult?

896
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Speaker 1: And I said, why is it difficult? And he goes, well,

897
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Speaker 1: just my my peers.

898
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Speaker 8: You know, my peers don't don't share my worldview? And

899
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 8: I said, so why is it difficult? And he goes, well,

900
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Speaker 8: well my my college professors. You know they will criticize.

901
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 8: I said, once again, I'm not trying to be a

902
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 8: smart alec here, why is it difficult? And what he

903
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Speaker 8: was getting to is that there's social there's academic consequences,

904
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Speaker 8: there's potentially economic consequences.

905
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Speaker 1: I looked at it and I said, look, I'm not discounting those.

906
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Speaker 1: But here's what I will tell you.

907
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Speaker 8: Every time you suffer anything, no matter how minor, your

908
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 8: immediate response should be thank you God that I could

909
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 8: suffer something for your name, sid Because as soon as

910
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Speaker 8: you take in that attitude, then every time it happens,

911
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 8: you're not upset. You're smiling because you know what it represents.

912
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Speaker 8: And if you actually want to foster the kind of

913
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Speaker 8: mindset that can save your country. That's it, because you're

914
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Speaker 8: not going to do it apart from the revival side,

915
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Speaker 8: because why are.

916
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Speaker 1: We doing all this secular humanism.

917
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Speaker 8: It's not as if we're not living in an environment

918
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Speaker 8: which has been inextricably shaped by secular humanism for the

919
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 8: last several decades. Is anyone happy with it? It's amazing

920
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Speaker 8: to me that when I actually mention Jesus, when I

921
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 8: mention the Bible, I will have people on our side

922
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Speaker 8: that will say, Nick, I like what you have to say,

923
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Speaker 8: but can you leave God out of it?

924
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Speaker 1: No, He's the author of what I'm talking.

925
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 8: It would be plagiarism for me to suggest that these

926
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Speaker 8: are just Nick Fratus's idea.

927
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Speaker 1: They're not. I'm ripping them off. But here's what I

928
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Speaker 1: would ask you to consider.

929
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Speaker 8: If you trusted Charlie and you agreed that he could

930
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Speaker 8: give really good arguments, if you look around at the

931
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Speaker 8: world right now and what's actually been governing up until

932
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Speaker 8: this point, and come to the recognition that the people

933
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Speaker 8: least happy, we think we're unhappy with what's going on

934
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Speaker 8: with woke. Go look at the charts of the people

935
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Speaker 8: most likely to actually be diagnosed with a mental health issue.

936
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Speaker 8: And it's young women between the age's of eighteen and

937
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Speaker 8: twenty nine who identify as liberal. They're the ones suffering

938
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Speaker 8: the most from what they have accomplished. And at this point,

939
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Speaker 8: I think it's perfectly reasonable for us to say we're

940
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Speaker 8: advocating for something else. And the answer is not just

941
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Speaker 8: in the arguments that we use. It's not just in

942
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Speaker 8: the logical consistency or effectiveness of the arguments in the

943
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Speaker 8: way that we construct them. It's actually found in the

944
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Speaker 8: way we live our lives and the results of those actions.

945
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Speaker 4: In that worldview, Blake, I, I it's I don't want

946
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Speaker 4: to cut you out of this. If you have not, please,

947
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Speaker 4: he's got a good You.

948
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Speaker 3: Sound like a lot like Charlie. I mean in a

949
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Speaker 3: lot of ways. Yeah, yeah, which is which is we

950
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: need because we need them. We need a lot of Charlie's.

951
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Speaker 4: So, Nick, I have a question spiritual battle light versus darkness?

952
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 4: I mean, how much of that do you see, whether

953
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 4: it's the infighting on the right, whether it's some of

954
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 4: the progressive ideology, the Marxist ideology, how much do you

955
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: think this defines our current moment?

956
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Speaker 3: Is it overused? Is it underused.

957
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Speaker 8: I challenge anyone to just go with an open mind

958
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Speaker 8: and read the Book of Romans and not think it

959
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 8: provides a perfect example of what we see going on

960
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 8: around us. It's this idea of people being totally given

961
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 8: over to a way of thinking that bears no forget morality,

962
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 8: it bears no resemblance to reality.

963
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Speaker 1: When when you have.

964
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Speaker 8: Supreme Court justices or you have people arguing behind before

965
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 8: the highest courts in the land that cannot make distinctions

966
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Speaker 8: between a man or a woman is because they're terrified

967
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Speaker 8: of the political implications. I think we have to understand

968
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Speaker 8: that there's a spiritual component here, and by the way

969
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Speaker 8: you believe in God, then believing in the spiritual should

970
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 8: be obvious and logical. I think the spiritual component cannot

971
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 8: be undermined. It has to lead. It can't just be

972
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 8: this side component where we think, if we make a

973
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Speaker 8: really good economic argument, that'll win the day. We've seen

974
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Speaker 8: what happens when you actually have a conservative movement that

975
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Speaker 8: is obsessed with the economic but then gives up on

976
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 8: the truly moral issues of our day, and it turns

977
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Speaker 8: out that democrats or a leftists or woke tosts, they

978
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 8: don't mind moving to your state to take the tax advantages,

979
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden push their indoctrination within

980
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 8: your school system. So I think we have to understand

981
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Speaker 8: what it is that we're fighting for on a fundamental level.

982
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Speaker 8: And I think the key to this is that when

983
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Speaker 8: you look at young men and you look at the

984
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Speaker 8: overwhelming numbers for which they are returning to the faith,

985
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Speaker 8: where they're trying to look at something that will actually

986
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Speaker 8: give them an identity that is transcendent, that's incredibly encouraged.

987
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Speaker 8: That tells me that the right questions are being asked

988
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Speaker 8: within the next generation because they're not just interested in

989
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Speaker 8: how they get onto a campaign or how do they

990
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 8: run for office. They're actually interested in the things that

991
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 8: are virtuous and moral and noble and just, and by

992
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 8: the way, they want to cause to fight for. They

993
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 8: want to risk something for what they believe. They just

994
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 8: want to make sure it's worth it. And as they

995
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Speaker 8: walk back into our churches right now, the most important

996
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 8: message I can send out to the men in those

997
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Speaker 8: churches is you have a generation of young men looking

998
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 8: for answers, looking for truth, and they want to be honorable.

999
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Speaker 8: What do they find when they walk into your church,

1000
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 8: Because if they find weak men, if they find men

1001
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Speaker 8: that are unwilling to stand for anything, if they find

1002
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Speaker 8: men that are unwilling to accept risk, if they find

1003
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Speaker 8: men that may talk a good game but don't live

1004
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 8: it out, I promise you they have other options to

1005
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 8: listen to. Because the one thing I know is woke loses.

1006
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 8: Woke loses.

1007
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Speaker 1: No matter what. You do not win a war, you

1008
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Speaker 1: do not fight a revolution.

1009
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Speaker 8: You do not run a country with people who define

1010
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Speaker 8: themselves by their mental illness.

1011
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Speaker 1: That does not happen.

1012
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Speaker 8: So young men will determine the outcome of what happens next.

1013
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Speaker 8: The question is is that are they going to listen

1014
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 8: to the sort of men like Charlie Kirk or are

1015
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 8: they going to fin answer somewhere else? And if they

1016
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Speaker 8: finanswer somewhere else, this can get bad really quick.

1017
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Speaker 4: Well said, all men have need of the gods.

1018
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Speaker 6: It depends on which one you will follow.

1019
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Speaker 3: Bob Dylan said something like that too.

1020
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Speaker 6: Also, Homer, Yeah, the ancient Homer, not Homer Simon.

1021
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bob Homer, Bob, Bob Dylan, and Homer Blake is

1022
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Speaker 4: our history buff here and we're grateful for him. I

1023
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Speaker 4: want to respect your time I know Steven Miller went

1024
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Speaker 4: long and so we had to sort of compress our

1025
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Speaker 4: time with you.

1026
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Speaker 3: Nick.

1027
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Speaker 4: I hope you will come back on with us soon.

1028
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Speaker 4: I think you have so much to offer. I just

1029
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: want to full circle. Why I thought it was important

1030
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: to have you one is because I do believe God

1031
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Speaker 4: is raising up more leaders that are going to be

1032
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Speaker 4: more and more prominent, and you're one of those. So

1033
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Speaker 4: thank you for making the time for us today.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it.

1035
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Speaker 1: It's my honor. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, God bless you.

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Speaker 1: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 1: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com