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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show.

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Speaker 1: The war in Iran continues. We are now well into

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Speaker 1: our second week. On the other hand, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: distance this war from something that is happening behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: a clandestine war, you might say, a war on the

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Speaker 1: very core of America and Western civilization, that is the

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Speaker 1: Jewish Christian Biblical alliance. A lot of propagandists who are

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Speaker 1: tentiously invoking and using this war as a way to

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Speaker 1: try to effectuate their grand desired outcome, the disintegration of

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Speaker 1: this alliance and victory for America's civilizational folks. Eric Stackbeck,

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Speaker 1: host of Sackbec's Night on TBN, joined us later to

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Speaker 1: impact this and more, but for now we begin with this.

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Speaker 1: The war in Iran is accelerating. We are now two

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Speaker 1: weeks almost into this war, and we can certainly say

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Speaker 1: with a very high degree of certainty that the war

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Speaker 1: is going very, very well for the United States and Israel.

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Speaker 2: There is very very little doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: Upwards of sixty Iranian vessels from the Navy have now

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Speaker 1: been sunk. The entirety of the air force seemingly is depleted.

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Speaker 1: The ballistic missile sites the air defense have all been pumbled.

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Speaker 1: It's true that Iran is still sending out some missiles,

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Speaker 1: some drones. If you look at the actual daily metrics

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Speaker 1: as to the number of misslan drones that have been

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Speaker 1: launched from Iran, not just to Israel, to the various

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Speaker 1: other Arab countries in the region, those daily numbers are

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Speaker 1: going down and down and down. Earlier today we had

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Speaker 1: what was referred to as a ridden statement from Machaba Kamani,

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Speaker 1: who is the fifty six year old would be successful

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Speaker 1: to his now killed father Ali Kamene, And this statement

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Speaker 1: is causing a lot of controversts because what they did

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Speaker 1: was they took a statement, they called it a ridden statement,

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Speaker 1: and then they read the ritt statement across Iranian television,

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Speaker 1: state sponsored TV there from the regime. But Combini the

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Speaker 1: younger actually was never seen, and he was never seen

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Speaker 1: because as far as we can tell, based on what

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Speaker 1: we can glean here, there's a lot of rumors going around,

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Speaker 1: but what we can as far as we can tell,

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Speaker 1: we believe he is in the intensive carrgunit right now

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Speaker 1: of Senaw University Hospital in Tehran, where an entire section

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Speaker 1: of the hospital has apparently been been cordons off in

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Speaker 1: placed under heavy security. We believe that Moshaba Kameni has

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Speaker 1: lost a leg. We believe that his leg has been amputated,

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Speaker 1: potentially other serious injuries as well to his stomach and

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Speaker 1: his liver.

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Speaker 2: So he's being kind of mocked by the.

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Speaker 1: Iranian distant community as a as a ghost Ayatola. So

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Speaker 1: he's not really calling the shots there. Frankly, he might

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Speaker 1: not even be conscious. He actually might be in a

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Speaker 1: coma state. So there's some elements there remaining in the

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Speaker 1: military command, in the i ERGCS on Revolutionary Guard Corps

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Speaker 1: that are calling the shots there. Certainly it does not

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Speaker 1: seem to be this ghost Ayatola. Meanwhile, the US and

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Speaker 1: Israel are delivering all sorts of precision strikes over the

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Speaker 1: past twenty four to thirty six hours when it comes

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Speaker 1: to certain checkpoints off the country for the regimes.

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Speaker 2: A military the besiege.

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Speaker 1: So think about the Nazis, and the Nazis have the Gastopo,

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Speaker 1: the SS. This was their secret police, their paramilitary. That's

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Speaker 1: essentially what the besieges, These plain closed people that roam

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Speaker 1: the streets trying to shoot people who deign to have

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Speaker 1: a bit of wrong think thought, who dare to have

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Speaker 1: anything in the back of my mind suggesting that they

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Speaker 1: might want to say something opposed to regimes besieges They

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Speaker 1: They are terrible, terrible, terrible people, these street thugs. Frankly

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Speaker 1: of this most despotic, tyrannical of Islamist regimes. So over

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Speaker 1: the past thirty six hours or so, Israel in the

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Speaker 1: American forces, I think, I believe above all it's actually

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Speaker 1: Israel doing this. They are are surgically just dismantling a

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Speaker 1: lot of the besieged checkpoints in the in the streets

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Speaker 1: of Tehran. Potentially other day as well, but based on

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Speaker 1: what we can tell, it's mostly happening inside of Tehran,

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Speaker 1: and there's actually some footage on social media of very

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Speaker 1: brave people then getting on their rooftops and they're shouting

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Speaker 1: this in farcie. They say marg bar besiege means death

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Speaker 1: to besiege, and marg dictator, which means death to the dictator.

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Speaker 1: There's some clips of that that are going around social media.

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Speaker 1: But the goal here, of course is ultimately to try

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Speaker 1: have also been a number of strikes against Iran's Bank SAPA,

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Speaker 1: which is a state run institution, a large response over

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Speaker 1: paying salaries of the Iran's conventional military as as well

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Speaker 1: as the IRGC itself. So, for instance, the data center

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Speaker 1: Israel or are now is only trying to cut off the

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Speaker 1: means by which the military and the RGC can literally

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Speaker 1: I believe the hope here is that if you can't

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Speaker 1: get a paycheck, if you're not gonna get any money,

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Speaker 1: maybe there is a higher chance that you will actually

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Speaker 1: that you will actually be inclined to again to take

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Speaker 1: into your own hands and to rise up potentially against

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Speaker 1: the regime. It's it's itself. The energy conversation continues to

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Speaker 1: play out as well. Moshaba Kamani in his quote unquote

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Speaker 1: statement again and it's not much with statements. It's a

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Speaker 1: like he's not in a coma, which he might be.

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Speaker 1: So they said here that there will be retaliation for

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Speaker 1: every single person who's been martyred by the terrible little

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Speaker 1: Satan Israel and the terrible big Sadan Americans. He's also

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Speaker 1: talking about how Iron will continue to hold control over

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Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz, which is this very narrow oil

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Speaker 1: choke point through which twenty percent of the world's oil

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Speaker 1: supply flows. I continue to resort to this, which is

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks look at this and they freak out.

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Speaker 1: The Pannikins, they freak out, They say, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: they're going to cut off twenty percent of the world

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Speaker 1: by well, first of all, they're really not the US,

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Speaker 1: according to Pete Hegseth. And now document has been involved

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Speaker 1: in operations for some days now when it comes to

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Speaker 1: these mine laying vessels, vessels that laying mines trying to

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Speaker 1: blow up the straight there. They've blown up at least

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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty of these mine laying vessels. But the

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Speaker 1: more important points, which we've said here on the show,

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Speaker 1: is this, if this regime is capable of shutting off

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Speaker 1: the Strait of horm moves and therefore affecting the supply

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Speaker 1: of oil, why would you want to give them a

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Speaker 1: permanent veto. Right now, they can be deterred, Right now,

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Speaker 1: they can be stopped. Why would you want to allow them,

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Speaker 1: God forbid to acquire the worst weapons known to man,

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Speaker 1: to actually acquire nukes or sort of there. Then they

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Speaker 1: would shut down for good, and that would essentially be

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Speaker 1: the end of that conversation. So we're certainly going to

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Speaker 1: continue to follow this conversation as or this war as

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Speaker 1: it plays out there. We're still paying close attention to

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Speaker 1: this debate as to what exactly victory means here in

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Speaker 1: the home fronts who are seizing on this war to

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Speaker 1: further their pernicious, daring to say, diabolical agenda to drive

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Speaker 1: of these folks read led by Tucker Carlson, led by

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Speaker 1: Canisoans are seizing on this war effort and saying a

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Speaker 1: lot of garbage and some of what they've been saying

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Speaker 1: for years now. They're saying that Donald Trump was bamboozle,

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Speaker 1: to say, frankly to that they're using this, frankly to

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Speaker 1: is the core, that is the core of the United States. Again,

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, we can't help on top of him. He

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Speaker 1: had on Brett Weinstein, Eric Weinstein's utterly vapid and stupid

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Speaker 1: somewhat infamous hesball a pager operation. This conversation really got

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and watch those.

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Speaker 3: have these exploding pagers used to kill terrorists? Obviously that's

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Speaker 3: not the only people who were killed, but nonetheless, that

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Speaker 3: You can read it into totally different ways. Right, The

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Speaker 3: normal way to read it is that this was maybe

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this Looney Tune's brother or Eric wins Bret Weinstein,

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Speaker 1: who was a behavioral psychologist and a second rate one

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Speaker 1: at that at Argue, the nation's single most left wing

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Speaker 1: doing his whole amateur cosplay routine in evolutionary psychology, trying

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Speaker 1: just to evolutionarily survive. It would seem in today's deeply

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Speaker 1: fraught climate. Good luck with that, bro with your last

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Speaker 1: name Weinstein. I'm not sure that Tucker's podcast audience will

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Speaker 1: necessarily save you from what they horrifically perhaps even intend

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Speaker 1: to do. But anyway, I digress. There's this whole sustained operation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, bred Weinstein there ludicrously saying that with the

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Speaker 1: Golden Pager of the Natanya who delivered the Trump's gift last years,

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Speaker 1: saying suggesting that NETANYAHUO would sending a message, a message

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Speaker 1: These are lies. These are horrific, destructive lies that are

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Speaker 1: being told with impunity. They're not paying a price for it,

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Speaker 1: if anything. Unfortunately, some of the ratings of these shows,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Eric Stockerback is the host of, among other things, Stackleback

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Speaker 1: Tonight on TB and Triny Broadcasting Network, where I've been

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Speaker 1: Follow him on x at Eric Stackleback. Eric thanks to

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Speaker 4: So great to be with you, you bet so.

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Speaker 1: Let's begin with this war against the Iranian regime. Operation

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Speaker 1: Epic Fury is the American name for an Operation Roaring

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Josh, Number one, I do think the past twelve

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Speaker 5: Number One, over forty of Iran's top leaders, including Supreme

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Speaker 5: The leadership has been decimated. Number two, the military infrastructure.

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Speaker 5: Number three. Now we see Josh, Israel in particular targeting

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Speaker 5: You asked what comes next? I think the next phase,

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Speaker 1: Bluggins stuff have been packed there. You can follow Eric

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the besiege. This is essentially that their Nazi

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Speaker 5: I would prefer the latter, Josh personally speaking, I would

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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: So we're still joined.

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Speaker 1: By Eric Stackoback, host of Stacklebeck tonight on TBN Tritiny Broadcast,

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Speaker 1: and Eric can follow Eric on x at Eric Stacklebeck. So, Eric,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to just pick up right where we left

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Speaker 1: off here. You called the Tucker Wing. I called the

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Speaker 1: Tucker Wing too. He is the leader of this cabal,

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Speaker 1: cabal that is quite literally being cast out of MAGA

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Speaker 1: actually in real time by the guy who essentially created MACA,

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Speaker 1: that would be President Donald Trump. But they're not doing

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Speaker 1: this out.

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Speaker 2: Of the blue.

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Speaker 1: There is something more broader going on here, and there

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Speaker 1: is something of a generational divide. Eric, I know you

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Speaker 1: see some of the polls, some of the polls that

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Speaker 1: I see as well that I've been troubling. I think

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Speaker 1: all the way back actually to twenty thirteen, there was

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Speaker 1: an essay in Mosaic magazine, this intellectual Jewish journal Gosh

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Speaker 1: twelve and a half years ago now written by Robert Nicholson.

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Speaker 1: At the time, they're saying that there was a festering

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Speaker 1: problem when it comes to younger evangelicals. A lot of

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Speaker 1: this conversation, I think tends to focus on Catholics, and

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Speaker 1: we saw this utter idiot Carrie Regine Bowler who was

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Speaker 1: saying that it's Catholic doctrine essentially to be antisemitic, which

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Speaker 1: it's obviously not. By the way, we actually had on

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Speaker 1: our friend Jay Richards of herdis fourn Nation to correct

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Speaker 1: some of those lies. But keeping the conversation less on

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Speaker 1: Catholic doncheron more on your world, on the world of evangelicals.

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Speaker 1: There's something that I think the Tucker's World are trying

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Speaker 1: to tap into here what is happening in younger evangelical

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Speaker 1: circles when it comes to these issues.

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Speaker 5: I think this trend has been going on for a while.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned that Mosaic piece from about twelve thirteen years ago,

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Speaker 5: and I remember it, Josh, has been going on for

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Speaker 5: a while, but it's gone into overdrive since October seventh.

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Speaker 5: You would think by the way, it would be the opposite, right.

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Speaker 5: You would think that after the worst massacer of the

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Speaker 5: Jewish people since the Holocaust, there would be a massive

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Speaker 5: outpouring of support and galvanizing alongside the Jewish people. We've

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Speaker 5: seen the direct opposite, obviously from the left, but also

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Speaker 5: in that segment of the right, led by Tucker, and

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Speaker 5: among young people. I think the podcasting world, look the Tuckers,

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Speaker 5: the Nick Fuintes, Candace and all the rest. They have

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Speaker 5: great influence on young people. A lot of young people, look,

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Speaker 5: aren't watching Josh, you know this. They're on their phone, iPad,

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Speaker 5: They're not watching TV, they're not watching broadcast TV in

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Speaker 5: most cases. But man, are they plugged into podcasters? And

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Speaker 5: I think podcasters like Tucker have had such a pronounced

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Speaker 5: influence on young people. I went out to breakfast, actually, Josh,

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Speaker 5: about a year ago. A friend of mine from my

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Speaker 5: daughter school. Great guy. He said, Hey, my son is

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Speaker 5: becoming anti Israel. Can we go out to breakfast and

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Speaker 5: you can talk to him and try to enlighten him.

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Speaker 5: And I sat down with the son, nice kid, but

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Speaker 5: named podcaster after podcaster, Tucker says this, so and so

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Speaker 5: says that, I said, Wow, It really struck me. These

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Speaker 5: are impressionable young minds and they're sponges. And what Tucker

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Speaker 5: is doing. Look, he's theologically, historically and geopolitically inaccurate and ignorant.

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Speaker 5: He's a smart guy, but I don't know, it seems

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Speaker 5: to be willful ignorance. I don't know if he reads

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Speaker 5: very much. He doesn't seem to be a student of history.

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Speaker 5: But he's regurgitating these lies for a broad audience and

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Speaker 5: young people who are seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old, again,

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Speaker 5: very impressionable. They're soaking this all up. And it's bad

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Speaker 5: theology as well. At the end of the day, replacement theology.

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Speaker 4: It's called josh.

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Speaker 5: Where this notion, and it's been around for a while

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Speaker 5: that God is done with the Jewish people, that the

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Speaker 5: Christian Church has replaced the Jews. The Jews have no meaning,

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Speaker 5: there's no role for them in God's plan at all.

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Speaker 5: I think a major hitch was thrown into that in

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Speaker 5: nineteen forty eight when the Jewish state was Miraculus lesly reborn.

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Speaker 4: But I digress. But that's where we're at here.

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Speaker 5: There's very powerful voices that wield a lot of influence

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Speaker 5: in this new media world and young people gen z.

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Speaker 5: They're all about new media that are having great influence,

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Speaker 5: and it's a poisonous influence.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think calling Tucker historically ignorant is mild of anything. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I think back to what he said to Megan Kelly

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Speaker 1: in early November. He went on they did a live

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Speaker 1: show on Megan Show, and Tucker made the preposterous claim

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Speaker 1: that the New Testament and the New Testaments alone is

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Speaker 1: responsible for the birth of Western civilization. Now, I am

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Speaker 1: absolutely not downplaying the importance of the New Testament, but

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Speaker 1: he might want to go to Philadelphia and see what's

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Speaker 1: written on the liberty bell. I'm pretty sure it's Leviticus,

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Speaker 1: chapter twenty five, verse ten that Dashell proclaimed liberty throughout

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Speaker 1: the land and to all the inhabitants thereof there's, of course,

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Speaker 1: more examples than one could possibly count. In fact, there

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Speaker 1: have been studies on this and they literally show that

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Speaker 1: the most cited and most quoted texts in the American

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Speaker 1: colonies of the course of the second half of the

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Speaker 1: eighteenth century aka of the Revolutionary period, the single most

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Speaker 1: cited texts was actually the Hebrew Bible aka the Old Testament,

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Speaker 1: the imagery of the Exodus, the fleeting of oppression. There

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Speaker 1: was ubiquitous frankly in the minds and consciences of the

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Speaker 1: American founding generation. So Erica, I want to do dive

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Speaker 1: a little more deeply on the theological question for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm reading this fascinating book right now. It's a book

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Speaker 1: that came out in twenty eighteen by a Jewish man

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Speaker 1: by the name of Samuel Goldman, and the book is

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Speaker 1: called God's Country Christian Zionism in America. And it's a

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Speaker 1: really long historical view. I'm only about halfway through, and

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Speaker 1: he really healthfully I think persuades that Christian Zionism goes

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Speaker 1: way back, all the way to the Puritans in seventeenth

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Speaker 1: century Massachusetts. These old Puritan sermons in Boston from the

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Speaker 1: sixteen sixties talked about the Holy Land and the fate

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Speaker 1: of the Jews a lot. So can you just correct

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Speaker 1: the record a little bit here. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks are saying that dispensationalism, which is this nineteenth

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Speaker 1: century and onward movement started by John Nelson Darby, A

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Speaker 1: lot of books say that this is heretical, that it's

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Speaker 1: a distortion of what Christian doctrine has been for centuries

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Speaker 1: and centuries there. That's certainly not my understanding. Can you

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Speaker 1: address that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And number one, just let me add to that Judeo

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Speaker 5: Christian Western civilization you said accurately, Josh talked about the

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Speaker 5: liberty bell.

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Speaker 4: Judeo Christian Western.

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Speaker 5: Civilization was born on Mount Sinai thirty five hundred years ago,

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Speaker 5: where God gave Moses the Ten Commandments. That's what all

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Speaker 5: of Western civilization ultimately is based upon. You can't have

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Speaker 5: Christian without Judeo because Jesus, helpful reminder, was a Jew.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of the Zionist movement and the history

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Speaker 5: of the Zionist movement, take it, really, Josh, back to

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Speaker 5: the UK, back to Great Britain. We're talking fifteen hundred,

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Speaker 5: sixteen hundreds, seventeen hundreds America. Obviously the United States came

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Speaker 5: out of Great Britain. The Zionist movement was growing and strong.

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Speaker 5: Then we're talking the fifteen hundreds in the UK and

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Speaker 5: here in the United States. Look, Christian zion is it's

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Speaker 5: very simple. It's not brain surgery. It's nothing controversial. We

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Speaker 5: believe that the Jewish people have a right to live

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Speaker 5: in their God given land where they lived three thousand

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Speaker 5: years ago.

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Speaker 4: It's very simple.

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Speaker 5: That is the essence of Christian Zionism, that a Jewish

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Speaker 5: state has a right to exist, a Jewish state, that land.

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Speaker 5: We believe that land was given to the Jewish people

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Speaker 5: by the God of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac

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Speaker 5: and Jacob and Josh.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: He's a promise and covenant keeping God. He made covenants

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Speaker 5: in both the Old and New Testament to the Jewish people,

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Speaker 5: very specific covenants. We can look at Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jeremiah.

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Speaker 5: It goes on and on. Genesis, of course, it goes

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Speaker 5: on and on, very specific.

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Speaker 4: I think of the Book of Amos.

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Speaker 5: God says, I will bring you back to the land

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Speaker 5: I have given you, never to be uprooted again. What

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Speaker 5: part of never do the replacement theology types not understand.

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Speaker 5: So if God was to break those covenants with the

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Speaker 5: Jewish people and the nation of Israel, what's to say

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Speaker 5: he wouldn't break covenant with me and promises with me?

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Speaker 5: How can I trust anything God says in his word

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Speaker 5: in the Bible if he just turns around and changes

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Speaker 5: his mind and breaks covenants and promises with the people

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Speaker 5: who he chose from the beginning. So it's a really

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Speaker 5: simple notion for Christian Zionists that God is a promise

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Speaker 5: keeping God. He's made eternal promises to the Jewish people,

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Speaker 5: and to me, josh I mean on the ground, it

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Speaker 5: seems like God's keeping those promises because the Jewish people

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Speaker 5: were largely dispersed for nearly two thousand years, and then

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Speaker 5: God brought them back against all odds in nineteen forty eight.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, one quick thing here, there was

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Speaker 5: always a Jewish presence in the land of Israel. Yes,

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Speaker 5: after the Temple was destroyed eighty seventy the bar Kocher

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Speaker 5: Revault one thirty two AD, most of the Jewish people

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Speaker 5: were scattered to the four corners of the earth.

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Speaker 4: We know that.

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Speaker 5: But there was always a Jewish presence in Israel, to

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Speaker 5: the point that in the eighteen forties Jerusalem had a

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Speaker 5: Jewish majority. So Christian Zionists know this history, they know

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Speaker 5: that theology, and that's the basis for our beliefs when

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Speaker 5: it comes to the modern state of Israel and the

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Speaker 5: Jewish people.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff. So much there really too unpack. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've actually never heard the argument presented before in such

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Speaker 1: clear terms that if God is actually going to break

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Speaker 1: his promises his covenants in the Old Testament, why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: he do the same in the New Testament. That's a

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Speaker 1: very compelling argument. Frankly, Eric, I've not heard that presented

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Speaker 1: as clearly, and I really appreciate that you presented it. Look,

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Speaker 1: I mean, speaking from a jewisherspective we say in our

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Speaker 1: morning prayers every single morning. There are, of course various

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Speaker 1: verses that we say every day. Among them are these

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Speaker 1: various verses from towards the end of Deuteronomy Juteronomy chapter

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Speaker 1: twenty five, Deuteronomy chapter thirty, where God very clearly says

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Speaker 1: that no matter how far you are scattered to the

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Speaker 1: edges of the earth, I will restore you to your

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Speaker 1: land there. And I think myself is a jew and

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Speaker 1: you as a christianaire if we probably can agree that

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight, shall we say, looks a heck of

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Speaker 1: a lot like a deuteronomistic promise that has been fulfilled. So, folks,

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Speaker 1: gray stuff from Aristocoback. He's clearly a brilliant guy. You

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Speaker 1: can listen to or you can watch Staffbecks night every

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Speaker 1: evening on TBN Triiny Broadcasting Network. Also check out his

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Speaker 1: show on YouTube, The Watchman Newscasts. Follow him on x

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Speaker 1: at Eric Stackobec. Eric, we really appreciate you clearing up

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Speaker 1: some of this confusion. God bless you, my friend, and

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Speaker 1: come back soon.

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Speaker 4: Josh, God blessed. Thanks so much, my friends.

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Speaker 2: Se soon folks to tak about this.

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Speaker 1: Through a very short commercial break, we're gonna have much

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Speaker 1: more to close out today's show.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: So much to impact there from what I thought was

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Speaker 1: a terrific conversation with Eric Stacobeck, host of stock Beecs

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Speaker 1: tonight on TB. And we'll start with the iron piece

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Speaker 1: of conversation, and then I do want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the broader piece of the conversation, which is this war

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Speaker 1: on Jewish Christian relations, this war on the very notion

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Speaker 1: of jo Christian civilization, this war on us ISRA relations

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Speaker 1: and so forth. So starting with the former and then

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Speaker 1: segueing into the latter, I thought it was very important

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Speaker 1: that we discuss what are these increasing attacks not just

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Speaker 1: on the formal apparatus of the regime, not just on

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Speaker 1: the IRGC, these long revolutionary guark war, not just on

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Speaker 1: the blisted missile sites, not just on the nuclear infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: the Navy, the Air Force, etc. And the Navy air

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Speaker 1: are essentially done at this point. The Navy sixty plus

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Speaker 1: ships of it are now sinking and they're just sitting

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the sea floor essentially there. But

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Speaker 1: it's notable that there is now this military action against

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Speaker 1: the besiege, which is the paramilitary. It's less formal in

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Speaker 1: the regime's infrastructure than the actual outright conventional military. The

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Speaker 1: besiege is essentially the street thugs, the guys who are

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Speaker 1: roaming street to streets, the plane clothes enforcers with guns

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Speaker 1: essentially threatening to blow your head off if you go

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Speaker 1: out on the streets and say something against the regime

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Speaker 1: or you want to try God willing to try to

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Speaker 1: topple this regime. So Israel in particular is now starting

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Speaker 1: to act against the besiege. The United States is certainly

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Speaker 1: helping someone that behind the scenes as well. And the

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Speaker 1: goal here is to permit the conditions whereby the run

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Speaker 1: and people can ultimately take matters into their own hands.

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Speaker 1: The issue that I keep on coming back to is

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Speaker 1: that is a generally unarmed population, and I don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: have any grand great ideas as to how to get

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Speaker 1: more weapons, frankly, even just small weapons, small firearms, shoulder

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Speaker 1: hoisted rifles, etc. Into their hands. I continue to hold

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Speaker 1: us some hope that people smarter and more forward looking

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Speaker 1: than me, people like Donald Trump, people like Pete Heggsath,

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Speaker 1: people like the Cheerman, the Joint Cheese Staff, Dan Caine,

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Speaker 1: maybe some folks over in Israel itself and the Idefe.

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Speaker 1: I continue to hope that there are some folks who

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Speaker 1: have thought this through just a little clearer. On Yessday Show,

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Speaker 1: we played this clip from Raiza Palavi, the exiled crown Prince,

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Speaker 1: who said, await my final call. Now's the time to

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Speaker 1: take matters into your own hands. Destiny there easier said

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Speaker 1: than done. These are people that just watch their fellow

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Speaker 1: countrymen be mowed down to the tune of tens and

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Speaker 1: tens thousand people there. And it does raise the possibility,

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Speaker 1: as we discussed here, as to whether or not there

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Speaker 1: is such thing as victory in this operation if the

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Speaker 1: regime does not fall.

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Speaker 2: And I continue to.

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Speaker 1: Think that the answer is in theory yes, In practice,

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. In theory, the Venezuela model seems

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Speaker 1: to be at least somewhat appealing. We had Mike duran

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Speaker 1: of the husbands who joined the program last week, to

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Speaker 1: essentially say, that's his prediction actually as to what this

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Speaker 1: will all look like about a year from now, you'll

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Speaker 1: have this subdued, chastened IRGC, this subdued, chastened molocracy, whereby

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Speaker 1: the Mullahs are essentially a bunch of minos, not Rhino's,

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Speaker 1: they're Mino's, they're Molah's in name only. That's Mike Durand's prediction.

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Speaker 1: I frankly, I think it's an entirely possible outcome as well.

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Speaker 1: Does that actually work in practice? Well, it depends these

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Speaker 1: people have even the tiniest iota of rationality in their bones.

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Speaker 1: These are indeed seventy two versions in heaven aspiring Islamist giannis,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. They've proven that zeal over and

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Speaker 1: over and over again. But if there is even the

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Speaker 1: tiniest morsel of rationality between these two people's ears in

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Speaker 1: the middle of their brains, then perhaps they will know

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Speaker 1: in the situation that if they add, they will be killed.

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Speaker 1: Do they care, really.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think that is the most relevant questionnaire. But Certainly,

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Speaker 1: at this point, we're all hoping, as Eric says, as

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Speaker 1: Frank Kafneen said, or share of this week, we're all

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Speaker 1: hoping at this point for a full scale replacement of

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Speaker 1: the RUnni regime. You don't take out Ali Kamenny, you

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Speaker 1: don't take out the iro Deca, you don't take out

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Speaker 1: any of this unless you're trying to replace the regime.

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Speaker 1: Certainly that will qualify for President Trump's criteria of unconditional surrender,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I also want to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the rest of the conversation that Eric

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Speaker 1: Stacomback and I just had, which is this war on

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Speaker 1: Judaeo Christianity, this war on Jewish Christian relations, and more concretely,

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Speaker 1: in foreign policy terms, this war on US Israel relations.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of folks that are saying that

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Speaker 1: the very notion of Judeo christian is something of an oxymoron,

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Speaker 1: that these are two religions that are irreconcilable loggerheads with

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Speaker 1: one another. And a lot of this comes from these irksome,

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Speaker 1: horrible podcasters, people like Tucker Carlson, people like Candiceewans that

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Speaker 1: are trying to bamboozo and gaslight young Christians in particular

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Speaker 1: to essentially turn on the Jews, turn on the Hebrew Bible.

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Speaker 1: You see this play out in some forms of theological heresy. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Tuck Carlson sounds a lot like a Marcion Kite, which

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Speaker 1: is in ancient second century Christian heresy that basically says

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Speaker 1: that the God of the Old Testament is not the

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Speaker 1: God of the New Testament. It's literally the first great

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Speaker 1: heresy from the second century. In fact, it was so

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Speaker 1: heretical that Tartuli, in one of the great second century

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Speaker 1: church fathers, wrote, I believe four different books condemning it.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless it's making a comeback. That's what Tucker sounds

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Speaker 1: a lot like these days. But a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: overthink this. Okay, the Christian Bible, you open it up,

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Speaker 1: roughly seventy five percent of it is the Jewish Bible

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Speaker 1: is the Hebrew Bible of the Old Testament seventy five percent,

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Speaker 1: give or take. You can count the pages one by

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Speaker 1: one if you like. But the bulk of that is

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Speaker 1: something that both religions share. Judies and Christianity share an

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00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: overwhelming civilizational, scriptural, and theological Frankly, even inheritance. They're obviously

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Speaker 1: big theological differences, the nature of God, the Trinity versus

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Speaker 1: the one God inhabited earth of Judaism. I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to downplay those differences at all, but I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: there is so much more in common here than we

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Speaker 1: have not in common.

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Speaker 3: And again, the.

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Speaker 2: Founders understood this readily. Guys.

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Speaker 1: They chose to put Leviticus on the liberty bell for

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Speaker 1: a reason. Benjamin Franklin Thomas Jefferson chose to propose Moses

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Speaker 1: crossing the Red Sea with the Israel's trailing behind for

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Speaker 1: a reason. Abraham Lincoln famously spoken Trenton, New Jersey of

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Speaker 1: how Americans are a quote almost chosen people.

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Speaker 2: He did this for a reason.

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Speaker 1: When of the most underrated president's American history, Calvin Coolidge

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Speaker 1: spoke in nineteen twenty is about the Hebraic mortar, the

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Speaker 1: Hebraic foundation of American Republicanism. Coolidge did that for a reason.

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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan evoked this famous seventeenth century Massachusetts language itself

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Speaker 1: mimicking ancient Jerusalem language, of this notion of a city

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Speaker 1: on a hill, a shotting city on a hill. That's

764
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: from Reagan's Farewell address this imagery, this law, frankly, this morality.

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Speaker 1: It is a core part of the American tapestry. It

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Speaker 1: is who we are. And that is why the folks

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Speaker 1: who are pushing for this assault, for this disintegration of

768
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Speaker 1: this alliance really are trying to burn this country down.

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Speaker 1: That's not an exaggeration. They are trying to take out

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Speaker 1: the very part and soul of this country. Why are

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Speaker 1: they doing it, Well, that's a conversation from the day.

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Speaker 1: But they certainly seem to have a lot of sympathy

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Speaker 1: for America's civilizational art foes, that's for sure. Tuck Carlson

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Speaker 1: just this week talking about how he believes Russia should

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Speaker 1: be America's greatest ally What are you smoking, bro? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what do you see in Alexander Dugan? This you know,

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Speaker 1: Pudin's brain. They call Dugan the guy who hates America's gods.

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00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: What do you see in him that makes you want

779
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: to cozy up to him? It's sick, sick twisted stuff really,

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Speaker 1: But ultimately the good guys will prevail in the struggle.

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Speaker 1: That is a story as old as time. I firmly

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Speaker 1: do believe that one final thing that I want to

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Speaker 1: close on here before we wrap up today's show, a

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Speaker 1: story from across the Pond, speaking of Western civilization. Western

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Speaker 1: civilization has very few great heroes like Sir Winston Churchill himself,

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Speaker 1: with in Churchill personally on a personally known one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite figures in all of contemporary Western civilizational history.

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Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln and Churchill pretty much the top of the pedestal,

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Speaker 1: at least as far as I am concerned, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, is one of the reasons that I so

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Speaker 1: aggressively started calling Atucker Carlson is because he started having

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Speaker 1: on guests who called Churchill the lead villain of World

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Speaker 1: War Two as opposed to I don't know that whole

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Speaker 1: Hitler guy. But anyway, this new story coming out of

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Speaker 1: the UK, they are replacing Winston Churchill from the official banknotes,

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Speaker 1: like the actual currency, the cash from the Bank of England,

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Speaker 1: and they're replacing him with animals. They're literally replacing Sir

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Speaker 1: Winston Churchill with a bunch of birds and headgehotsuggs. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not makings I wish I were making it up,

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Speaker 1: I trust me. I wish that this were a fake story.

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Speaker 1: I wish this were a Babylon beheadline I am literally

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Speaker 1: not making this up. You know, there's a celebrity bird

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Speaker 1: watcher quoted by gb News known as Nadem Pereira, and

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Speaker 1: she sits on the Bank of England's Panel of Wildlife experts.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the Bank of England has a panel of wildlife x.

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Speaker 1: I really hope the Federal Reserve does not have such

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Speaker 1: a panel. What a waste of task pay money that

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Speaker 1: would be. And she's calling this move significant and overdue.

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Speaker 1: Get the heck out of here, Get out of here.

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Speaker 1: This is how nations die. This is how civilizations die

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Speaker 1: when you have elites that hate your country, that hate

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Speaker 1: your nation, that hate your people, that hate your civilization,

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Speaker 1: and they want to whitewash your history and tear it

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Speaker 1: out root and branch. Wisdom Churchill is the greatest figure

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Speaker 1: in the history of modern Britain, a man who literally

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Speaker 1: save Britain from the yoke of Nazi tyranny. That is

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Speaker 1: non exaggeration. They would be speaking German, not English in

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Speaker 1: London today. We're not for Sir Winston Churchill. He's one

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Speaker 1: of the great heroes in the history of England, the

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00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: history of Europe and the history of the West. You

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Speaker 1: want to kill civilizations.

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Speaker 2: This what you do.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, that's actually that's exactly also what the enemies of

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Speaker 1: the Jewish Christian Biblical Alliance are trying to do as well. Folks,

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Speaker 1: have a great rest of re evening. We'll be right

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow with a brand new show, Josh Hammers signing

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Speaker 1: off with see that