WEBVTT - Senate begins debate on SAVE Act

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Hewett back inside the Belwagh, where I feel most comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>especially during a war, where you can doctor people throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the day about what's going on. We are winning, we

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<v Speaker 1>are winning decisively, and we will win decisively. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the end state looks like in Iran, because

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<v Speaker 1>we are not seeking regime change so much as we

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<v Speaker 1>are to destroy again not merely their nuclear power program

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<v Speaker 1>and their nuclear weapons program, but the missile for us

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<v Speaker 1>that surrounds it, as well as the military structure that

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<v Speaker 1>supplies it. And we're well on our way to there.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump gave a long press conference today. What he

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<v Speaker 1>had to say is a lot more important than what

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say. Let's go to cutt number one.

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<v Speaker 2>When this is over, oil prices are going to go

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<v Speaker 2>down very very rapidly. So is inflation, so is everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>but frankly much more important than short term or even

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<v Speaker 2>long term oil prices. You can't let the most violent,

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<v Speaker 2>vicious country in the last fifty years have a nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>weapon because.

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<v Speaker 3>The Middle East will be gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Israel will go first without question, and they'll certainly take

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<v Speaker 2>a shot at us before we get our act together

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<v Speaker 2>and say we got to take him out.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't let her on, who's truly a nation of great.

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<v Speaker 1>Terror and.

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<v Speaker 3>Power. Look what happened in the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries

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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East. Those missiles were set to go

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<v Speaker 2>after them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's right, they're a radical, fanatical regime. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>oil is down ninety three dollars a barrel now and

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<v Speaker 1>dropping cut number two.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people are saying that he's badly disfigured.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying that he lost his leg, the one leg,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's you know, been hurt very badly. Other people

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<v Speaker 2>are saying he's dead. Nobody's saying he's one hundred percent healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he hasn't you know, he hasn't spoken because the

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<v Speaker 2>Ayatola would sit and.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd spew hate from a form of a throne. Not

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<v Speaker 3>as nice as a throne.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the English throne much better, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was a fancy chair. But he'd spew hate from

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<v Speaker 2>his chair. But you see him a lot, right, this

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<v Speaker 2>one we haven't seen at all, So that could be

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of different reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter of his dead or cut number three. The President

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<v Speaker 1>talks about who's getting help to open the strait of

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<v Speaker 1>horm moves.

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<v Speaker 3>Of they want to make a deal. They're talking to

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<v Speaker 3>our people. I don't know if they say that to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Don't forget.

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<v Speaker 2>They are a country that for years I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>this until recently. They're country based on disinformation and now

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<v Speaker 2>they're using information plus AI and that's a terrible situation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a terrible situation. They showed all sorts of things

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<v Speaker 2>happening in the last two weeks that never happened, between

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<v Speaker 2>the kamikaze boats that don't exist, between blowing up the

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<v Speaker 2>aircraft carrier, one of the great ships in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>the Abraham Lincoln on fire. They showed it on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I called it the General, I said, General what's with

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<v Speaker 2>the Abraham Lincoln. It looks like it's burning down. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not burning down. Not a bullet was ever fired

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<v Speaker 2>at it, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>They know better.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, this is my first glimpse of AI and

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<v Speaker 2>what they've done with it. They showed buildings in Tel

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<v Speaker 2>Aviv burning to the ground, high rises burning. They showed

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<v Speaker 2>buildings and Qatar. They showed buildings and Saudi Arabia burning

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<v Speaker 2>and they weren't burning, they weren't hit.

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<v Speaker 3>It was all AI. AI based terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is remarkable online Now a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>left has fallen for this stuff, but I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people who know what they're talking about, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than go with the AI. Here's the cut on who's

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<v Speaker 1>helping us and who is in cut number four.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you been speaking with the French President Macum about

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<v Speaker 4>the coalition to reopen the Strait of Hormuz?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I have spoken to him. He's been on a scale

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<v Speaker 3>of zero to ten. I'd say he's been an eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Not perfect, but it's friends. Are you un expect perfect?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you confident that friends will help with the reopening

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<v Speaker 4>of the Strait of Hormus?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been sure he's gonna I think he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to help him, and I'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I spoke to him yesterday. I don't do a hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Selling them because my attitude is.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the strongest nation in the world. We have the

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<v Speaker 2>strongest military by far in the way. We don't need them.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's interesting. I'm almost doing it in some cases,

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<v Speaker 2>not because we need them, but because i want to

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<v Speaker 2>find out how they react, because I've been saying for

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<v Speaker 2>years that if we ever did need them, they won't

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<v Speaker 2>be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Not all of them, but they won't be there. I

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<v Speaker 3>was very surprised with the.

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<v Speaker 2>United Kingdom because the United Kingdom two weeks ago I said,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you send some ships over and he really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>The United Kingdom is endangering the future of NATO because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm been a big NATO hawk. I'm a regular conservative

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<v Speaker 1>and have been since the eighties. Pieter strength big supporter

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<v Speaker 1>of NATO, and Poland is great. Finland, Sweden their front

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<v Speaker 1>line stay. Ukraine is shipping their technology from their drone

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<v Speaker 1>expertise to us. Everything is great, except our oldest allies

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<v Speaker 1>are not, especially in the United Kingdom. President went on

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<v Speaker 1>to say this cuttnumber five.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need anybody. We're the strongest nation in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the strongest military by far in the way.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need them, And.

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<v Speaker 1>CUTT number six.

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<v Speaker 2>We are aggressively dismantling o rens defense industrial base and

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<v Speaker 2>ability to rebuild its missiles and drone capability is getting

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<v Speaker 2>down to close to zero, and we're hammering their capacity

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<v Speaker 2>to threaten commercials shipping in the Strait of Hormos with

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<v Speaker 2>more than thirty mine laying ships destroyed. We hit, to

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<v Speaker 2>the best of our knowledge, all of their mind laying ships.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they can put them on other.

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<v Speaker 2>Types of ships, I guess, and drop them in. But

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know that any have even been dropped in.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not sure that any have been. That's a big

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<v Speaker 2>negative for them. Of they do, it's a form of suicide.

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<v Speaker 3>But we don't know that they have dropped any.

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<v Speaker 2>But we've we've hit all thirty of their ships and

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all at the bottom of the sea.

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<v Speaker 2>We strongly encourage other nations whose economies depend.

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<v Speaker 3>On the Strait far more than ours.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we get less than one percent of our

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<v Speaker 2>oil from the Strait, and some countries get much more.

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<v Speaker 2>Japan gets ninety five percent, China gets ninety percent, many

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<v Speaker 2>of the Europeans get quite quite a bit. South Korea

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<v Speaker 2>gets thirty five percent. So we want them to come

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<v Speaker 2>and help us with the Strait.

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<v Speaker 3>We have it in very good shape.

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<v Speaker 2>The countries, I said, we've already taken care of Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>but now because of the fact that literally a single

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<v Speaker 2>terrorist can put something in the water, or shoot something,

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<v Speaker 2>or shoot a missile, a small missile, and it's fairly

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<v Speaker 2>close range because it is a tight area, which is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons they've always used that as a weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>Ran has always used that as an economic weapon, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be able to be used very long.

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<v Speaker 2>Numerous countries have told me there on the way. Some

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<v Speaker 2>are very enthusiastic about it, and some are in summer

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<v Speaker 2>countries that we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Helped for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 2>We protected them from horrible outside sources, and they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>that enthusiastic, and the level of enthusiasm it matters to me.

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<v Speaker 2>We have some countries where we have forty five thousand soldiers,

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<v Speaker 2>great soldiers protecting them from harm's way, and we.

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<v Speaker 3>Have done a great job, and.

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<v Speaker 2>When we want to know, do you have any mind sweepers, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>would rather not get involved, sir, I said, for you mean,

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<v Speaker 2>for forty years we're protect you and you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get involved in something that is very minor, very

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<v Speaker 2>few shots going to be taken because they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>many shots left.

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<v Speaker 3>But they said would rather than not to get involved.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want the fake.

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<v Speaker 2>News media and everybody else to remember that that was said,

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<v Speaker 2>because when I've been a big critic of all of

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<v Speaker 2>the protecting of countries, because I know that we'll protect

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<v Speaker 2>them and if ever needed, if we ever needed help,

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<v Speaker 2>if they won't be there for us. I've just known

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<v Speaker 2>that for a long period of time, just like I

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<v Speaker 2>knew about the Strait that it would be a weapon,

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<v Speaker 2>which I predicted a long time ago, predicted all of

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys were very generous in that I predicted.

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<v Speaker 1>He did predict it. He was right. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a great winnowing. It's a great dividing of those who

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<v Speaker 1>are winners with us and those who are guinness and

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<v Speaker 1>those who ran away, like the United Kingdom. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>United Kingdom has a historically twing government and they've run away,

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<v Speaker 1>but I listened to Winston Marshall today interviewing in air.

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall been retired for a few years. The numbers for

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<v Speaker 1>Great Britain are it's a parade. It's a rose parade

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<v Speaker 1>of a military. It's not a real military anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>they could send the Dragon or a few other ships,

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<v Speaker 1>and it took them two weeks to get the Dragon

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<v Speaker 1>out of Port Cyprus. They're sovereign territory is attacked by

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<v Speaker 1>Iran and they're not getting involved because the left wing

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<v Speaker 1>are pacifist. They're run by pacifists. And the United Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer great. It doesn't rule a way much

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<v Speaker 1>less of the waves, and it's very sad. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back in America state too. Welcome back in America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm due. You are back inside the Belway in my

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<v Speaker 1>beloved Virginia, where it's going to have tornadoes tight if

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<v Speaker 1>their local weather reporter is correct. I'm joined by the

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<v Speaker 1>former Governor of the Commonwealth, our friend Glenn Younkin, Governor,

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you again. Are you sheltered and hunkered

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<v Speaker 1>for our tornado watch?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sheltered and hunkered down yet, but I am

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<v Speaker 6>going to postpone my voting no on this redistricting until tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 6>so that hopefully the folks can be safe around the

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<v Speaker 6>voting establishments today. But we're looking out for the weather.

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<v Speaker 6>I tell everybody please be careful.

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<v Speaker 1>I am also I came back early because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to vote no on this redistricting the initiative. How does

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<v Speaker 1>it look to you? Gether and tell the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the country what the Democrats are doing in Richmond.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the first thing the Democrats are doing in Richmond

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<v Speaker 6>is trying to take away the vote of millions of Virginians.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a redistricting referendum in twenty twenty. Two thirds

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<v Speaker 6>of Virginians voted for an independent redistricting commission.

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<v Speaker 5>It passed, and that's what's been used.

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<v Speaker 6>And now they are trying to change this constitutional amendment

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<v Speaker 6>and once again steal votes from people. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 6>take it from a six' Five Democrat Republican house Of

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<v Speaker 6>representative team to ten to one and steal four seats.

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<v Speaker 6>Back and it's just so unfair for three big. Reasons

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<v Speaker 6>One virginian's already voted on. This two because we in

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<v Speaker 6>fact have a governor who is today on record of

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<v Speaker 6>saying that she thinks that redistricting and jerry mandering is

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<v Speaker 6>counter to, democracy and she promised everyone last summer that

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<v Speaker 6>she would not support, it and now she's out supporting.

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<v Speaker 6>Redistricting and the third part of this is what they

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<v Speaker 6>have done with these maps is. Insane they're taking Northern

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<v Speaker 6>virginia and they are pulling it into the rest of the.

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<v Speaker 6>State and let me tell, you if you live In

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<v Speaker 6>Hampton roads and now you're congressional representative comes From, Alexandria

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<v Speaker 6>or you live in The Shenandoah valley and congressional representative

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<v Speaker 6>comes From Fairfax, county or you live In, richmond congressional

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<v Speaker 6>representative is coming From.

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<v Speaker 5>ARLINGTON i, mean it's. Nuts and so.

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<v Speaker 6>This is this moment for us to stand up As

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<v Speaker 6>virginians and vote. No the vote is open, Now early

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<v Speaker 6>voting is on and a run all the way Through

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<v Speaker 6>april twenty, first and this is a chance for us

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<v Speaker 6>to keep them from stealing four seats From republicans In.

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<v Speaker 1>Congress, now the best ARGUMENT i can make to, people

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fifty to fifty, state maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more blue than a little bit, red but it's. Purple

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact is we've got some very Senior congress

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<v Speaker 1>people who have positions of influence within The Republican, party

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<v Speaker 1>which has a. Majority this is suicidal for the interests

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<v Speaker 1>of the commonwealth as a just as a good government.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing democrats should not want this to. Happen they're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting any money from.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, no it.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it is insane to think that it's good For

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<v Speaker 6>virginia To jerry Mannder virginia in this. Way and the

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<v Speaker 6>bottom line is, now all of a, sudden people who

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<v Speaker 6>have had real senior folks representing us in all of

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<v Speaker 6>The Armed services, committees senior folks REPRESENTING us and appropriations,

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<v Speaker 6>committees are all of a sudden going to be pushed

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<v Speaker 6>out of all of those all of those, committees and

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to See virginia.

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<v Speaker 5>Hurts But i'm just going to go back for a.

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<v Speaker 6>Minute not only is this illegal because they started this

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<v Speaker 6>process in an illegal way by carrying on a vote

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<v Speaker 6>to get it started in the middle of the last,

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<v Speaker 6>election as opposed to before, it but we also recognize

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<v Speaker 6>that they are alying to. US i Mean Abigail, spamberger

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<v Speaker 6>the current, governor stood up on the campaign trail last

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<v Speaker 6>year and said she would not support Redistrict king and,

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<v Speaker 6>jerrymandering and now she turns around and she is supporting.

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<v Speaker 6>It and it's representative of the fact that everything she

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<v Speaker 6>said on the campaign.

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<v Speaker 5>Trail has proven to be.

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<v Speaker 6>False she said she was going to stand up for

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<v Speaker 6>cost of living challenges and. Affordability and the first thing

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<v Speaker 6>they do is raise everybody's utility bill by putting us

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<v Speaker 6>back into this regional greenhouse gas, initiative which puts five.

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<v Speaker 5>Hundred million dollars on.

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<v Speaker 6>Ratepayers they say they want to keep people, safe and

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<v Speaker 6>they Make virginia sanctuary. State immediately he saw this poor woman,

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<v Speaker 6>murdered murdered at a bus station by somebody who should

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<v Speaker 6>have been handed over To. Ice and now finally they're Redistricting.

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<v Speaker 6>Virginia when she stood up and said that she would

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<v Speaker 6>not Redistrict. Virginia this is what you get from them

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<v Speaker 6>when they promised to keep their, word and they, don't

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<v Speaker 6>and therefore we cannot trust them with taking over ten

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<v Speaker 6>to one representation in The commonwealth Of.

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<v Speaker 5>Virginia GOVERNOR i.

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<v Speaker 1>Also want people to realize that the Standard Glenn youngkin

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<v Speaker 1>press conference for the last four years was to announce

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<v Speaker 1>that a new company was coming to the. Commonwealth and

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<v Speaker 1>you would meet there with THE ceo and you'd get

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<v Speaker 1>the shovel out and you'd build. Something first announcement Under

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<v Speaker 1>Governor spanburger Is boeing is leaving For Saint. LOUIS i

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<v Speaker 1>think that's going to accelerate if they passed their tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Plan Goodbye. Virginia i've enjoyed being a, citizen But i'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sticking around For california. TAXES i left once. Already

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to be, unique is, It? Governor, no it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Not and it's a real moment of just frustration and

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<v Speaker 6>anger for me BECAUSE i feel like we Built virginia

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<v Speaker 6>into the very best state In america to do, business

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<v Speaker 6>and we were rewarded by having one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 6>seven billion dollars of commitments from companies to expand and grow.

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<v Speaker 6>Here and now we see companies who are questioning whether

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<v Speaker 6>they should have done. That we See boeing pulling out

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<v Speaker 6>one of their big, divisions and all of a, sudden

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to See tennessee And North, Carolina South, Carolina, Georgia, Florida,

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<v Speaker 6>texas these other states winning where we were winning just

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<v Speaker 6>one year, ago two year, ago three years, ago and

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<v Speaker 6>it has everything to do with pushing an anti business

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<v Speaker 6>agenda From, richmond where they raise the cost of doing

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<v Speaker 6>business In virginia in such a.

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<v Speaker 5>Way that people, Say, NOPE i don't want to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Here i'm going to go someplace.

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<v Speaker 6>Else And i'll tell you, Also, hugh What i'm hearing

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<v Speaker 6>from folks is that people are starting to pack up and.

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<v Speaker 1>Move as.

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<v Speaker 6>Well AS i travel, around i'm in, airports people come

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<v Speaker 6>up and, Say, GOVERNOR i loved it when you were,

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<v Speaker 6>there BUT i can't take it And i'm going to.

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<v Speaker 6>Leave AND i think that The democrats constantly forget that

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<v Speaker 6>families choose they want to live based on where their

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<v Speaker 6>best future is going to, be and businesses choose where

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to be based on their opportunity to. Thrive

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<v Speaker 6>virginia had demonstrated during our four years we could do.

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<v Speaker 6>Both we grew people and we grew. Businesses and it's

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<v Speaker 6>going the other direction now.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, GOVERNOR i do want to get one question in

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<v Speaker 1>because you were a friend of the military three or

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<v Speaker 1>four years In. Richmond you've always been supportive of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Military we're involved in this compact combat With. Iran i've

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<v Speaker 1>been playing The president's press. CONFERENCE i think it's going Extraordinarily.

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<v Speaker 1>WELL i got family in The. Navy they think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going Extraordinarily, well what do you think of the? Mission

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think of the need to see it?

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<v Speaker 6>Through, yeah we have to see this through to comprehensive.

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<v Speaker 5>Victory there's no half measure.

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<v Speaker 6>Here and THEREFORE i am so proud of the men

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<v Speaker 6>and women who serve The American Armed. Forces they are

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<v Speaker 6>the best in the, world the best it has ever,

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<v Speaker 6>been and they, will in fact do the duty that

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<v Speaker 6>needs to be, done which is a comprehensive. Victory iran

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<v Speaker 6>can never be allowed to have a nuclear, way and

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<v Speaker 6>they must never have the ability to attack their.

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<v Speaker 5>Neighbors they can no longer fund their.

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<v Speaker 6>Proxies we have seen already the decimation of their, navy

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<v Speaker 6>the decimation of their, leadership and our great military has

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<v Speaker 6>to finish this job in a comprehensive. Way i'm one

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<v Speaker 6>hundred percent behind, them AND i ask For god's blessing

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<v Speaker 6>on each and every one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them and a final, question we had a terrorist attack

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<v Speaker 1>On Old. Dominion you you put a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>and effort into preparing our universities and our schools to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Safe it's, shocking but it's a. Reality. Governor do you

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<v Speaker 1>think The democrats are up to dealing with this at

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<v Speaker 1>the state.

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<v Speaker 5>LEVEL i don't think they.

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<v Speaker 6>ARE i think they firmly believe that people who are

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<v Speaker 6>Naturalized american citizens who come out and pledge allegiance TO

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<v Speaker 6>isis should stay in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Country AND i.

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<v Speaker 6>Firmly believe that someone who is a naturalized citizen who

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<v Speaker 6>pledges allegiance TO isis and has to go to jail

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<v Speaker 6>because of it should have their citizenship revoked and they

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<v Speaker 6>should be deported. Immediately that guy should have never been In.

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<v Speaker 6>America that guy should have been deported a long time.

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<v Speaker 6>Ago and the fact that because of soft policies on

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<v Speaker 6>these kinds of, moments it allows a, murderer a terrorist

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<v Speaker 6>to stay in The United states and take the life

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<v Speaker 6>of a hero At Old Domini. University And i'm gonna tell,

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<v Speaker 6>you Those rozi students in the classroom are. Heroes AND

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<v Speaker 6>i just pray for that man's. Family he was a

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<v Speaker 6>True american hero and it should have never.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Governor good to see. You we will be out voting

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<v Speaker 1>no on the initiative Before april twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourth do not.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait get out and vote. Tomorrow once the rain. Stops thank,

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<v Speaker 1>You Governor Glenn. Younkins stay tuned In. America we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back In. America I'm Hugh hewittt with my insurer in,

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<v Speaker 1>Chief Selena. Zito, selena you're very happy with The World Baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>classic aren't.

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<v Speaker 7>YOU i, mean we've got two full pledge insers.

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<v Speaker 8>In, there and one who calls himself an honorary jur

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<v Speaker 8>With Paul.

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<v Speaker 7>Skin So i'm feeling all the.

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<v Speaker 1>GREATNESS i Want paul bitch the final, game BUT i

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he, will will, he because that's we. Got

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna Play italy Or, venezuela one or the.

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<v Speaker 7>OTHER i don't. KNOW i MEAN i want him to.

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<v Speaker 7>TOO i love. Him that guy's a. Beast he's An

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<v Speaker 7>Air force he was in The Air Force.

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<v Speaker 8>Academy he is so patriotic and he's such a good

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<v Speaker 8>leader on that, team but they all. Are this has

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<v Speaker 8>been the most Fun i've had in, baseball And i've

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<v Speaker 8>gone to Three World series all right.

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<v Speaker 1>NOW i read a play for that was a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago because if it's The, pirates that's a long time all. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Selena Ezra, Kleine New York times Podcaster i've Known

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<v Speaker 1>ezra for thirty five. Years he was one year ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of my. DAUGHTER i saw him as the Surfing santa

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventh grade. Play and he went to The

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<v Speaker 1>university Of Santa cruz and he got HIS. Bep but you,

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<v Speaker 1>KNOW i tried very hard not to let. That he

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<v Speaker 1>was a smart, kid eager, kid want talk politics all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time he's following his. Dream he's done very. Well he started,

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<v Speaker 1>vox he's at The New York. Times but when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to, depth SOMETIMES i, wonder here's the opening of his.

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<v Speaker 1>PODCAST i will play little bits of it And i'll

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<v Speaker 1>get your. Comment let's start.

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<v Speaker 9>IT i found myself struggling to describe the War President

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<v Speaker 9>trump has chosen to enter into With, iran the strange

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<v Speaker 9>lightness with which he seems to have chosen.

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<v Speaker 10>This.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't leave. You let's stop right. There the strange lightness

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<v Speaker 1>with which he has seemed to have chosen. This what

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<v Speaker 1>does that, Mean?

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<v Speaker 5>SELENA i don't.

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<v Speaker 8>KNOW i don't know what strange lightness, is BUT i

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<v Speaker 8>would sure love to see him do that podcast sort

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<v Speaker 8>of as an on this day in seventeen seventy, six

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<v Speaker 8>because there's a whole lot of strange lightness That George

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<v Speaker 8>washington And.

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<v Speaker 7>Henry knox And Nathaniel green and all of them went

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<v Speaker 7>through in this.

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<v Speaker 8>Time And i'm sure there was AN x there was a,

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<v Speaker 8>podcasters and there wasn't today's media covering it because they

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<v Speaker 8>would have given up and.

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<v Speaker 7>Their souls would have been crushed by the way it

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<v Speaker 7>would have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Covered Israel putnam would not have done. WELL i, mean

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<v Speaker 1>as a, client wouldn't have done well With Israel putnam

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<v Speaker 1>On Bunker hill or in the retreat From New. York

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<v Speaker 1>here's part two Of Ezra's opening Your.

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<v Speaker 2>Home it's very dangerous. Outside bombs will be dropping.

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<v Speaker 9>EVERYWHERE i would, say the, worst spiraling out of, control

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<v Speaker 9>but there's never real pretense in that it was under.

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<v Speaker 3>Control all, right, STOP i find.

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<v Speaker 1>It selena is the worst spilering out of, control and

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<v Speaker 1>was there ever any pretense that it was in? CONTROL i,

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<v Speaker 1>mean these are vapid things to.

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<v Speaker 7>Say these are very vapid things to.

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<v Speaker 8>Say AND i imagine him in that sort of moody

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<v Speaker 8>scenery that he's doing there Interviewing Benedict arnold and why

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<v Speaker 8>his mind changed after he was injured in The battle For, Quebec,

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<v Speaker 8>RIGHT i mean it gives YOU.

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<v Speaker 3>O i'm sorry so.

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<v Speaker 1>Earnest i'm very. Earnest though at part number, three let's

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>get more.

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<v Speaker 9>Earnest hard to Say trump's plan for the worst failing

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<v Speaker 9>because it is not clear there was any plan at all.

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<v Speaker 1>There this is the one that gets me BECAUSE i

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<v Speaker 1>know too many people in the. MILITARY i have a

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 1>son in law and nephew on active. Duty my son

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<v Speaker 1>just got off of active. Duty everything is a. Plan

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most. Plan we've been planning this for forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Years where do people get Off selena talking about stuff like?

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<v Speaker 8>This it Is it is astounding to watch, that to

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<v Speaker 8>be honest with, You and it's almost like a dramatic

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<v Speaker 8>reading of current, events and it's done with all kinds

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<v Speaker 8>of atmospheres and different camera. Angles but the lack of

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<v Speaker 8>depth is coming from what he's, doing and it's really

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<v Speaker 8>disappointing to see this turned into sort of a staged craft.

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<v Speaker 3>Event it's not a political.

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<v Speaker 1>Event it's a. War Twelve americans have dying.

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<v Speaker 7>Me, yeah, yeah it's a.

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<v Speaker 8>War and our military has been extraordinary in this. War

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<v Speaker 8>and it is such a sharp contrast to what we

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<v Speaker 8>saw In august twenty seventh of twenty twenty, one and

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<v Speaker 8>it is what they have achieved should be talked.

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<v Speaker 7>About i'm not saying cheered, on but at least.

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<v Speaker 8>Talked about with the depths that it, deserves along with

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<v Speaker 8>all of the sort of capabilities they have with. Technology it's,

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<v Speaker 8>astounding and yet he's turning it into days of our.

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<v Speaker 7>Lives it.

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<v Speaker 1>IS i also want to make SURE i touch on

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<v Speaker 1>someone on the internet got the great idea to Suggest

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<v Speaker 1>butler was. Staged the attempt to kill the president and

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<v Speaker 1>the murder Of Corey comparatoy was, staged and you took

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<v Speaker 1>out after. Them can you believe someone did? That and

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<v Speaker 1>how far it? Traveled now?

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<v Speaker 7>Fast it traveled.

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<v Speaker 8>Fast it was cut and paste and used by a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of people with very very large accounts THAT i don't.

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<v Speaker 7>Even know if they're real.

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<v Speaker 8>People but that doesn't, matter because it penetrates into the.

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<v Speaker 8>Psyche the good news is the only ten percent of

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<v Speaker 8>the entire country Uses, twitter and of that ten, percent

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<v Speaker 8>about two thirds of it are the only ones that

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<v Speaker 8>use it, Actively so at least it's not something that

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<v Speaker 8>penetrates in real life in the way they believe that it.

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<v Speaker 7>Does but it. Is it is, crude it's, vulgar it's.

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<v Speaker 8>Insulting someone's, husband, father and son died that day right

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<v Speaker 8>in front of, me AND i.

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<v Speaker 11>Saw two men gravely, injured and those bullets went right

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<v Speaker 11>over my. Head and you, know it's like people don't

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<v Speaker 11>understand the shell, shocked. Right people just stood there because

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<v Speaker 11>you can't believe it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Real that was what the poster was.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying the, posters, well they didn't act like there was

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<v Speaker 1>an active, shooter and they were it was over too.

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<v Speaker 7>Quickly, YEAH i didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>Know there was like a handbook that went out and

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<v Speaker 8>said this is how you behave if there's an active,

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<v Speaker 8>shooting and if you, don't then you're.

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<v Speaker 7>Lying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, WELL i want to compliment you for the rapidity

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<v Speaker 1>with which you responded and the efficacy with which you,

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<v Speaker 1>responded and the fact that others join you in responding

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<v Speaker 1>and calling out that. Individual have they?

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<v Speaker 8>Apologized, no of course not, no because that will require.

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<v Speaker 2>Them to have a.

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<v Speaker 8>Soul have they doubled down or they don't?

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<v Speaker 1>Have did they double? Down?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah they continue talking about it as if.

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<v Speaker 7>They're they had they have moral clarity on.

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<v Speaker 12>It.

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<v Speaker 1>i'll be right back In america's state, Time ernit and Grace.

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<v Speaker 1>America i'm, Here, hewitt back inside The, belway just in

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<v Speaker 1>time for storms will rock your. Teeth i'm joined by

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<v Speaker 1>The foundation for The Defensive democracy senior Fellow ben And Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Tellablue he's been on. Before he is an expert on

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<v Speaker 1>The iran missile program and on all Things Iran. America benam,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome. BACK i don't know if you heard The

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<v Speaker 1>president's press. Conference they've been playing a lot of. It,

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<v Speaker 1>first your assessment where we stand On monday afternoon in

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<v Speaker 1>our war With.

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<v Speaker 10>Iran, well great to be with you again. Here always

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<v Speaker 10>a pleasure. LISTEN i think militarily things are looking. Up

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<v Speaker 10>there's some real questions right now as to what will

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 10>THE us do in this trait of horror. Moves in,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 10>fact the maritime domain is really the area that has

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<v Speaker 10>the eyes of everyone from markets to moneymakers to. Policymakers

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<v Speaker 10>that's WHERE i think The president may be looking to

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<v Speaker 10>get a military wind to begin to be able to

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<v Speaker 10>push away from the. TABLE i certainly think it's, doable

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<v Speaker 10>but nonetheless it's, costly it's. Risky BUT i think the

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 10>more the regime, escalates the more they kind of use

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 10>a sort Of damicle's approach to ships entering and exiting

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 10>The persian golf as they have been just hours, ago

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 10>checking the insurance and the shipping and the flagging and

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 10>the registry of all the ships that are coming and.

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<v Speaker 10>Going that is something that we cannot allow to. Happen

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<v Speaker 10>we cannot allow the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism

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<v Speaker 10>to basically have a veto over who gets to use

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<v Speaker 10>and cross the straight up horm. Moves so at all,

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<v Speaker 10>LIKELIHOOD i think things are looking likely to escalate in

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<v Speaker 10>the next.

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<v Speaker 1>WEEK i think you're. Right oil is at ninety four

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>dollars a barrel right, now down From fridays one hundred

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>dollars a barrel AS i think the world oil markets

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>begin to recognize That Saudi arabia has got a pipeline

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>as an. ALTERNATIVE eae, Doesn't kuwait, doesn't but The saudi

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>is Doing they can offset a lot of the oil

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make it through. Straight BUT i also believe

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<v Speaker 1>That i've heard so many naval Experts i'm as, civilian

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<v Speaker 1>But i've got family in The, navy family in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight i've got lots of experts On this has been

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>gamed out for a long. Time. Beat it's not like

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>anyone is surprised That iran is trying.

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<v Speaker 10>This, Yeah and in, Fact i'm surprised that the number

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<v Speaker 10>of experts and policymakers that are trying to hold The

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 10>trump administration to account here saying that THE us is fundamentally.

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<v Speaker 10>UNPREPARED i, mean there may be a criticism to, level given,

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<v Speaker 10>force posture and time and political risks, involved but given

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<v Speaker 10>the fact that THE us quite literally did this before

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<v Speaker 10>in the nineteen, eighties and given that the job of

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<v Speaker 10>The pentagon is to, plan and given even that The

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<v Speaker 10>obama administration was able to keep two carriers inside The

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 10>Persian gulf at times and be able to thwart and

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<v Speaker 10>push back on the threats to actually close this, strait

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 10>and that The trump administration in term one dealt with

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 10>things like limpet mind attacks as well as later on

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 10>drone attacks and drone, buzzing this was a surprise to literally.

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 10>Nobody and given the job of The pentagon being to,

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<v Speaker 10>PLAY i actually think our men and women in uniform

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 10>will have quite a few tricks up their sleeve if

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 10>they're given the time in the space to pull them.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, So, BEN i want to play for you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of As. Decline and Now i've Known ezra

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<v Speaker 1>for almost forty, years maybe thirty five, years because he

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was in elementary school with my, daughter and SO i

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>know him as the Surfing santa from the seventh grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Play So i've always tried to get that out of

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>my mind because he's done well for. Himself he very,

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>articulate hasn't ever held a classified, job has never been

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in national security, work so he kind of make it

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>up as he goes. Along but today's, podcast well it

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<v Speaker 1>began this, way play it for benan PLACE.

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<v Speaker 9>I found myself struggling to describe the War President trump

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 9>has chosen to enter into With, iran the strange lightness

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 9>with which he seems to have chosen.

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<v Speaker 2>This stay, sheltered don't leave your. Home it's very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside bombs we'll be dropping every.

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<v Speaker 9>WHERE i would say the war's spiraling out of, control

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 9>but there's never a real pretense in that it was under.

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<v Speaker 9>CONTROL i find it hard to Say trump's plan for

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 9>the worst failing because it is not clear there was

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 9>any plan at.

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<v Speaker 1>All all, right let's stop right. There these are. Cliches

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>these are words strung together to Critique Donald, trump and

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>they're all manifestly. FALSE i don't call them a lie

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.479
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i think Probably ezra believes, them but he doesn't

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>know anything about the, military and he doesn't know anything

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that we've done about. Them what's your commentary On Ezra klein's.

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<v Speaker 10>Commentary, well, actually the funny thing about this conflict is

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 10>that if you have a, rationale you can take your.

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 10>Rationale it's kind of Like. Obamacare if you like your,

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 10>provider you can keep your. Provider or allegedly that's what

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 10>the administration used to say back in the. Day if

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 10>this is a human rights driven mission for, you well

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 10>this is a mission against the. Regime if this is counter,

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<v Speaker 10>proliferation well it's about stopping the world's states cons of

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 10>terrorism from getting nuclear. Weapons if it's about defanging and

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 10>leveling the playing, field well certainly there's an opportunity there

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 10>against the regimes missile and military. Apparatus and if it's

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 10>about freedom of navigation, economics well then there's a rationale

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 10>for you to support what THE us is doing in

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 10>the straight up home moves and in The Persian. Gulf

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 10>so there's multiple, rationales multiple pathways that get you to

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 10>The president being willing and able to pull the trigger

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 10>to deal with this urgent national security challenge unlike his.

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 10>Predecessors and WHILE i do agree that mores can easily

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 10>spiral out of, control and that is one of the

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 10>things that The Islamic republic is playing up and is playing,

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 10>towards it's the goal of the more responsible power to

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 10>be able to, escalate not, incrementally but, significantly to show

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 10>that time is not a weapon on the side of the.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 10>Adversary it is on the side of THE us and

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 10>it's partners and. Allies and ultimately here the fact That

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 10>President trump is flexible offers, audiences like audiences in The

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 10>New York, times more app pathways to an off ramp

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 10>to exiting the common inflict than actually doubling down and

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.719
<v Speaker 10>staying within the. Conflict so the lack of a clearly

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 10>defined end. State if you are a Classic New York

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 10>times view or a listener and you want, less not

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 10>more conflict Than Middle, east that should be music to

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 10>your ears as far As i'm. Concerned if you're like,

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 10>me and you have a clear stated end, goal and

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 10>you want The president to double down and triple down

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 10>to make sure that we can actually check every single

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 10>box rather than just one of those military missions THAT

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 10>i laid. Out, well then you're actually going to be

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 10>a little bit. Critical So i'm a little bit puzzled

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 10>by the criticism of the flexible approach The president has

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 10>taken here by the likes of summ of The New York.

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Times i'm not puzzled only because it's what they. Do

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<v Speaker 1>BUT i want to try now to forget all the

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>idiocy and articulate What John, wooden who you're too younger,

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>member used to call the pyramid of, success and you

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>start at the bottom and you build to the. Top

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the very bottom of the pyramid of success here is to,

0:33:54.360 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>me the elimination of any nuclear weapons production. Ability President

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>trump obliterated. It they began to rebuild. It he's obliterated it,

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>again along with the help Of. ISRAEL i haven't seen

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>much report of what THE b twos have been. HITTING

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>i hope they Hit Pickaxe. Mountain but that is the

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>most important bottom of the. Pyramid nothing else. Matters if

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that isn't done how do you assess the success on, That, Benham.

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<v Speaker 10>Well we have two outstanding questions when it comes to

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 10>the base of your. Pyramid and you know if this regime,

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 10>survives and you know if there is even what our

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 10>office is calling a phase two AT, fdd which is

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 10>the potential to nest a larger mission against the security

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 10>forces following a larger mission to defang this. Regime if

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 10>that is your goal right, now if you don't properly

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 10>get rid of all of the nuclear capacity and, capability

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 10>well then you will have something like a Middle Eastern

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 10>North korea on your hands as you move closer and

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 10>closer to dealing a death blow against this. Regime so

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 10>the two things that you're looking for in my, view

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 10>to make sure the pyramid has a, long flat rather

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 10>than a, narrow pointy base is to make sure that

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 10>one the fissile, material meaning the four hundred plus a

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 10>kilograms of sixty percent, uranium is actually not on a running,

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 10>territory whether that's destroyed or actually confiscated in some special

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 10>forces mission.

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 3>That is A.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 10>Tbd but perhaps equally important is to Destroy Pickaxe, mountain

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 10>either again with explosive charges inside or potentially something covert

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 10>and sabotage inside or with air power from the. Outside you,

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 10>know the regime maybe doubling down and digging a deeper

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 10>hole in the, ground but they should always Remember Uncle

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 10>sam has a bigger. Bomb so the success of the

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 10>counter proliferation mission against the regime's future nuclear capacity rests

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 10>in dealing With Pickaxe mountain and getting rid of the fysile.

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 10>Material thus, far we haven't seen a movement towards that

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 10>yet because the next layer of the pyramid has been

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 10>the priority target for the administration and that's been defanging

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 10>the regime's missile.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Program. Yeah on the second level of the, pyramid it's

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the destruction of the defense of the nuclear, program and

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>that destruction of the defenses is the missile arsenal about

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>which you are. Expert how do you view part, two

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>step two of the pyramid going because if it, remains

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it can be expanded and they can defend that enriched,

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>uranium they can defend Piac Matc. Mountain they can do

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>this all again times ten unless we destroy their production.

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 10>Capacity, yeah the beating heart Of iran's ballistic missile production

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 10>was struck during THESE us operations in the past two

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 10>two and a half, weeks and that is anywhere from

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 10>three to five, sites but in Particular hojir Shah, rude Sem,

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 10>Non parchin And. Esfahan these are at least five, facilities

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 10>the first Three, hojiir Shah rude And parchin that matter

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 10>greatly to solid propellant, production motor, development, casting and things

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 10>needed to actually produce and field ballistic. Missile and ballistic

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 10>missiles form the backbone of the regime's policy of det by.

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 10>Punishment so Unlike America, israel The Arab states of The Persian,

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 10>Gulf iran doesn't have robust air and missile defenses that

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 10>can defend. It the way it defends, itself the way

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 10>defends its, regime the way defends its territory is the

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 10>threat of, punishment and the main tool of that punishment

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 10>right now is this arsenal of ballistic missiles about eighty

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 10>to ninety percent of the fire which has been suppressed

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 10>by THE. US i, believe, however we are in a

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 10>position of what political scientists call, equifinality which is many

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 10>reasons why the regimes fire is. Suppressed one is the

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 10>success of the launcher, mission and two is the regime

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 10>actually holding a few capabilities for survival.

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Purposes let him stand. By we're going to come back

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>with part two of our pyramid of success Against iran

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>with benham right after these messages on The Hugh Hewitt, Show.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Welcome back To.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>America I'm HUGH Hewittt ben And Ben talablu is with.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Me he is from The foundation for The defense Of.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Democracy follow at REAL BENMBT x Benemon tier one that we.

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Discussed we are winning, decisively but we have not yet

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>won a decisive win on tier, two which is the.

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Missiles and you've named the five. Facilities are we fifty

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>percent of the way? There seventy? Percent how do you

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 1>judge it FROM afar.

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 10>Based on commercially available satellite imagery, imagery you know you

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 10>could top it off at about eighty plus. Percent, again

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 10>this is the back of the envelope. Calculation but you

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 10>need to marry the eighty two of the eighty plus

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 10>percent with the actual subterranean facilities that house what's left

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 10>Of iran's missiles And iran's. Launchers and if you look

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 10>At iran's geography and you look at where missiles have

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 10>been fired from, before and you layer on top of

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.760
<v Speaker 10>that commercially available satellite, imagery you get at least four

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 10>chains of, bases a, western a, central an, eastern and

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 10>a southern. Coastal knowing what we know about known or

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 10>declared or Revealed iranian subterranean missile, bases many though not,

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 10>all of which are connected underground to each, other there

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 10>are anywhere from nineteen to twenty two that need to be.

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 10>STRUCK i think there is evidence for anywhere from seventeen

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.240
<v Speaker 10>to twenty that The trump, administration again using commercially available

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 10>to satellite, imagery has been able to. Strike we cannot

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 10>guarantee or verify one hundred percent of, those nor CAN

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.919
<v Speaker 10>i tell you from this distance how damage they. Are

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 10>but my logic, is AND i wrote this before the,

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 10>war rather than defend just against the, missile and rather

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 10>than target just the, launcher you need to collapse the

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 10>facility that houses both the launcher and the missiles and

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 10>take that as a capability off of the playing field

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 10>and then move towards. Capacity that seems to be in

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 10>slow motion what The trump administration is. Doing BUT i

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 10>will say the bulk of the air, power given how

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 10>MUCH isr we, have is being used to target those missile,

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 10>launchers and that's why you see sencom putting out so

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 10>many videos targeting those launchers which are out of their

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.359
<v Speaker 10>bases and in different areas than ever.

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Before level of the pyramid success is command and. Control

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>but for both their missile and their. Navy those are

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the two arms of The iranian military that can threaten

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the international. Community their, navy it's been. SUNK i would

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 1>say we are almost at one hundred percent success there

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and the command and control structure for their. Country what

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 1>do you think about? That you, know this.

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 10>Is a state that is not aspiring to be A

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 10>scandinavian welfare state that can actually provide for the means

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 10>of its own. People, unfortunately these are guys that are

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 10>okay being king of the, heap king of the garbage

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 10>dump it in so many, ways they may make you

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 10>burn through the country to get. Them and even if

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 10>we before the, conflict before The Twelve Day, war even

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 10>this was a regime that was sliding towards bringing you

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 10>on into failed state status, anyway and in that, situation

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 10>given the fact That, kammende who was eighty six before

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 10>and now is, deceased wasn't guiding every single, missile wasn't

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.240
<v Speaker 10>choosing every single, target even though he was intimately involved

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 10>in broader national security decisions in that. Country it's highly

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 10>likely you have a, decentralized almost zombie national security deep

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 10>state choosing their, targets which is why they've thrice fired

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 10>AT nato Ally, turkey why they've continued to fire At

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 10>qatar and The omanis in The Persian gulf and even

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 10>Targeted Azerbai john. Withrown so you have a zombie state

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 10>kind of that is, decentralized that doesn't have command and,

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 10>control which is kind of forcing you to go after

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 10>all of these units provincially to suppress and defeat.

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Them all, Right so the penultimate level of the pyramid

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>success is to degrade the besiege so they cannot massacre

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands of. People, again The israelis have been

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>intent on doing. This there's really no way to make

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>an educated guess about what percentage has been. Destroyed but

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>there are reports of defections and dismay among the. Ranks

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>what do you make of?

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 10>That, again you're, right this stuff is largely. Anecdotal but

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 10>over that would say the past three to five, days these,

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 10>rallies based on publicly reported, information have been going against

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 10>law enforcement forces and besiege. Facilities we know that in

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 10>the past areas where compounds and barracks have been, bombed

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 10>some of these security forces have put up. Tents then

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 10>these rallies have strayed the. Tents we know areas where

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 10>barracks and compounds have been bombed AND iergc folks went

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 10>into soccer, stadiums particularly on the, periphery not on the,

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 10>field and those peripheries of those stadiums have also been.

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 10>Bombed we also know, that of, course many of these

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 10>pseudo self established besiege and law enforcement checkpoints to prevent

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 10>against traffic flows and to kind of monitor the situation

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 10>on the street have also been. Bombed and we also

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.959
<v Speaker 10>know the regime is putting armored personnel carriers under things

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 10>that give it physical cover to avoid getting, struck things

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 10>like bridges and, tunnels and these rarely still, withdrones seem

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 10>to be able to do. This there's even reports right

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 10>now That iranian dissidents are using The Iranian apps to

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 10>be able to communicate externally with Some israelis to provide live,

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 10>targeting although this report has not been able to be independently,

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 10>confirmed but it does marry with the, zeitgeist of the

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 10>bits and starts of, information and of the willingness of

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 10>Many iranians to be able to benefit from foreign support

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 10>to disable this apparatus of.

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Repression so the very lat at the top is regime

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>change or regime coersion to a different kind of regime

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't threaten its. Neighbors might not be a, democracy

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but it might simply be defanged and new leadership Not

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>mula's not theocratic. Fanaticism how close to that do you

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>think we?

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 10>Are, WELL i actually do not believe in the theory

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.839
<v Speaker 10>of regime. Evolution. Here this is The Middle, east meaning

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 10>things can get, worse not, better and indeed they. Are

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 10>and if this regime survives the major rounds of, fighting

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 10>get ready for A Middle eastern version Of North korea

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 10>which is more, paranoid more, i more, militarized and more

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 10>team on revenge and rebuilding than ever. Before so the

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 10>success of the defanging mission militarily will necessarily need to

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 10>be nested into a larger counter regime mission that is.

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 10>Political there will be no premature victory lap to be

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 10>had just because of military successes, alone and that's why

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 10>it's imperative The trump administration stopped trying to force A

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 10>venezuela model onto a country who's governing, elite whose military,

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 10>capacity whose, state whose, society whose opposition looks nothing Like venezuela,

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 10>TODAY i don't believe you can actually have. That somewhat

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 10>softer gentler Is Lama. REPUBLIC i do believe here These

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 10>lamach republic is going to force you to play to the,

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 10>edge which is to win and knock out the system,

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.240
<v Speaker 10>altogether or to risk the collapse and potentially move towards

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:51.280
<v Speaker 10>failed state. Status AND i think in that, Dichotomy Uncle

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 10>sam cannot be. Indifferent it is doing quite well against

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 10>the levels of the pyramid that you have. Raised but

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 10>not one of, THEM i want to, stress not one of,

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 10>them or yet at a n. Percent some of, them

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 10>like the missile, one are quite, close and that is

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 10>an impressive. Achievement but we have to remember this is

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 10>The Middle. East in The Middle, east you can have

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:11.720
<v Speaker 10>many a military, victory but few have had political. Victory

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 10>and that's why it's imperative to link the way it

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 10>means it ends.

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Here so my last, question is the world better off

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>today than it was sixteen days?

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 10>Ago the, world, yes the world in so many. Ways

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 10>given the fact that The islamarco public is firing more

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 10>missiles than, before it's threatening the strait of horror moves

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 10>more than ever. Before it's a measure of how much

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 10>weaker it is than ever. Before and the weaker and

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 10>the more defanged this regime is the net positive it

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 10>will be to its, people to the, region To, america To,

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 10>israel and to the. World but there is no premature

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 10>victory lap to be able to have. YET a weak

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 10>regime can still be, lethal they can still, rebuild and

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 10>to provide oxygen to a regime that will be willing

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 10>to use these weapons more than ever before would be a.

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 10>Mistake so just because things are trending in the right

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 10>direction does mean that in a highly volatile and dynamic battlefield,

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 10>situation we should be taking our eyes and off the

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 10>prize and our hands off the. Wheel that is WHAT

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 10>i would caution at.

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>This, moment well, said a, caution well. Advised benam Ben,

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>talablue thank you for joining me from The foundation for

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>The Defensive, Democracy senior fellow there follow him on Ex

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>ben m b e h n a m actually the

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>real ven M, vt the Real ben M vt and

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 1>read him at FT. D thank. You i'll be right

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>back In. America stay, Tuned welcome Back. AMERICA a few

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.479
<v Speaker 1>weeks AGO i had on my Friend Dennis praeger talking

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:46.720
<v Speaker 1>about the new book he is authored with my next,

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Guest Joel. Alprin the new book Is if There Is No.

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 1>God it is selling quite. Rapidly, joel how are you?

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Aware are? You i'm.

0:46:56.239 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 13>Fantasticstic i'm In, omaha and, respectfully it's.

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Alperson oh go, ahead, sorry you Know i've got my

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>notes back on The west. Coast. Joel you're In. Omaha

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>that's where you had the original sit down with these

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>kids from which you And dennis wrote this. Book how

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>did you come to be An? Omaha?

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 13>Oh my grandparents moved here AND i don't know what

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 13>brought them here, originally but my parents stayed AND i

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 13>love the community And i've.

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Stayed SO i want to go back over for the

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>people who miss the first interview With, dennis and it's

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>available on my YouTube. Channel if There Is No god came,

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>out oh maybe three weeks. AGO i talked To dennis

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>SO i could drop it on pub, Date page forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine the advice you to offer to every reader live

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>as if you Believe god, exists Why, Joel because.

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:59.240
<v Speaker 13>If you, don't then there's no objective standard from. Morality

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 13>and people have to realize that if there's no objective

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 13>standard from, morality everybody gets to make it up as they.

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 13>Want and in, fact we're living at a time right

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 13>now where we're seeing that happen. Increasingly dennis had an

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.240
<v Speaker 13>op ed that went The New York post recently which

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 13>talked about the number of people who supported the act

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<v Speaker 13>Of Luigi, mangioni the murder that he conducted In New York,

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<v Speaker 13>city and a significant percentage of young people in particular

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<v Speaker 13>endorsed that.

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<v Speaker 1>View once you take objective.

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<v Speaker 13>Morality, away and that can only come From, god you've

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:37.240
<v Speaker 13>taken the guardrails off of, morality and as a, result

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 13>anything anybody thinks is good can be, good because who

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 13>is to say otherwise all you have is conflicting. Opinions

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 13>you have no. Standards it would be as if you

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 13>tried to argue math without the laws of mathematics one, PERSON.

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I usually did, Math so that's HOW i usually did.

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Math it didn't work out. Well but when you write,

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that when you wrote them, forward you talk about convening

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>these kids In. Omaha have you stayed in touch with

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>any of?

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<v Speaker 12>Them.

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<v Speaker 13>NO i mean some of them are members of my,

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 13>synagogue BUT i. Haven't, however if this is what you're touching,

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.360
<v Speaker 13>ON i did do a survey after the weekend was,

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.359
<v Speaker 13>over and a granted that was over thirty years, ago

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 13>But i'll tell you about half of the kids weren't

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:27.479
<v Speaker 13>very happy with the. Weekend and when you think about,

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 13>it it makes some sense because they expected to come

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 13>for a weekend On jewish stuff and have a Kumbah ya.

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 13>Session AND i didn't intentionally set it up to be a.

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 13>Battle that wasn't my. Intention but as you Know dennis very,

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 13>well if he, disagrees he'll make his disagreement, known and he.

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 13>Did and for a lot of these, kids it was

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 13>the first time that they had heard somebody tell them

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 13>that their most deeply, held passionately held feelings beliefs might

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 13>have really bad, consequences and they didn't love hearing that very.

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Much, Now dennis is guiding precept for the thirty five

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Years i've known him as clarity before. Agreement so let's

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>make sure we know what we each. Believe then we

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>can see if we can agree on something but kudos

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to the. Kids page seventy. Five one of them, Asked,

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>dennis why does it have to be biblical, Values why

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 1>can't it just be human. Values what's the answer to, That, joel, alperson.

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 13>Because you're back to what any one person thinks is

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 13>good is, good and what any one person thinks is

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 13>bad is. Bad there were, kids AND i think this

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 13>is noted in the, book, who when questioned if they

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:49.280
<v Speaker 13>would Challenge hitler if they Thought hitler was, wrong SAID

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 13>i think he's, wrong BUT i don't think i'd have

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:53.719
<v Speaker 13>the right to say so to. HIM i don't think

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:57.399
<v Speaker 13>i'd have the right to negate his. Belief and that's

0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 13>what happens when it's human. Values human values Is latin

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 13>for any. Values and, again we're living at a. Time i'm, SORRY.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I, said you're, right any value at all doesn't. Matter

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>if you don't if the human, values the next person

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>can believe in genocide and you can't argue with. Him.

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>JOEL i want to ask about the end of the

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 1>book because we had the attack on the synagogue In

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>michigan On. FRIDAY i believe Anti semitism is a result

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>of the task for which The jews were. Chosen in

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the words Of Edward, flannery the Imminent catholic priest and,

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.799
<v Speaker 1>historian The jews carry the burden Of god and his

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 1>moral law in. History did you want that, Job?

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 13>Joel there's A talmudic story of The tumult is an

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 13>extensive commentary on The, torah and not surprisingly because it's

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 13>part of The jewish, tradition filled with, debates filled with

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 13>disagreements and back and. Forth but that's one of the

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:56.360
<v Speaker 13>things that makes it important and. Vital there's a story that,

0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 13>says because the mountain apparent in The jews, were according to.

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 10>The hebrew under the, mountain That god held the mountain over.

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 13>Their, heads asking what they wanted to accept their, responsibility

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 13>and so under those circumstances they, Said yet so even

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 13>The torah and the time was recognized this was not.

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:17.080
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<v Speaker 1>Mandel she is the founder of the Mom wars dot

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<v Speaker 1>substack dot Com she also sent me To Lahav harkov last.

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<v Speaker 1>Week had a good time With. LHAV i hope you heard, That.

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<v Speaker 1>BETHANY i did.

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<v Speaker 12>Not it didn't make its way to. ME i heard

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 12>that it, happened BUT i did not read and.

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Listen, well thank you for the, recommendation Beth. Andy, FIRST

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.239
<v Speaker 1>i was listening to The commentary podcast Today i'm with your.

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Husband seth is a, member and he said that you're

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>all very psyched about The Super mario movie when it comes,

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>out but nothing. Else is that an accurate representation in

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>The mandel.

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:22.840
<v Speaker 12>Household so you are the second person to quote the

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 12>commentary magazine podcast me in the last fifteen, minutes AND

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 12>i have not listened to it. YET i do not

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:33.360
<v Speaker 12>include myself in The mandel hype Over Super, mario but,

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 12>YES i think they are all pretty.

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Hyped. Well the REASON i bring it up is Because

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 1>John podhortz laid out some statistics on the decline in

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 1>movie going from two thousand to twenty twenty to, today

0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's a precipitous. Decline Fetching Missus shutt AND i

0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 1>used to do two movies a, week even when we had.

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Kids we were two movies a. Week, people one hundred

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.360
<v Speaker 1>is a. Year how many movies a year do you?

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:57.919
<v Speaker 5>SEE i see?

0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 12>Zero unless yeah zero seth usually, once maybe. Twice but

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 12>he's bringing all six kids to this next, one and that's.

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 7>Going to be over a hundred.

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Bucks oh, Yes, Oh i've taken my grandkids to see

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Terrible disney movies and it is one hundred. Bucks but

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the point, being are you going because not going because

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>of cost or not going because of? Quality nothing there

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:21.800
<v Speaker 1>that interests.

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:27.280
<v Speaker 12>You SO i am a terrible millennial AND i don't

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:29.399
<v Speaker 12>really want to sit through two and a half hours

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:31.160
<v Speaker 12>WHERE i can't check my. Phone If i'm just being,

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.600
<v Speaker 12>HONEST i lose.

0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Attention you're a Jen. Alpha all, right here's A i'm

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>going to switch you to the war. Now Ezra, klein

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 1>who was the Surfing santa in the seventh grade musical

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 1>at my daughter's. School So i've Always i've Known ezra,

0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 1>forever But i've known him as a, kid so it's

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to take him, seriously even though he's

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 1>done very well for. Himself here's the opening Of ezra's

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>podcast For The New York. Times.

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 9>TODAY i found myself struggling to describe the War President

0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 9>trumps chosen to enter into With, iran the strange lightness

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 9>with which he seems to have chosen.

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 2>This stay, sheltered don't leave your. Home it's very dangerous.

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Outside bombs will be dropping.

0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 9>EVERYWHERE i would say the war's spiraling out of, control

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 9>but there's never a real pretense in that it was under.

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 9>CONTROL i find it hard to Say trump's plan for

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 9>the war'st failing because it is not clear there was any.

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 3>PLAN i don't like to.

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Have bethany it's, defeatist, demoralizing clop trap and as it

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>was a smart, GUY i.

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 12>Record that from a bomb.

0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 3>SHELTER i don't.

0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Know it's absolutely, absurd but there. Is And Noah rothman

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>gets very exercised about the defeatism demoralization campaign underway and elite,

0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 1>media and it doesn't affect the fact that we're winning,

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 1>decisively and that's the. Story we are Crushing. Iran why

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't the left want to say that.

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 12>They don't want to give In trump the W but,

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 12>conversely why Is President trump not out there doing victory laps, left,

0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 12>right up and. Down he's bothered By President trump's. TONE

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 12>i want to hear more of. IT i want to

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:16.480
<v Speaker 12>see The buroll footage of THE b two bomber flying,

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 12>over AND i want to see, explosions AND i want

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:22.240
<v Speaker 12>to see we killed so and so, today we killed

0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 12>so and so last. Week just a reminder on day,

0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:29.000
<v Speaker 12>one we killed The. Iatola the idea that there's no

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 12>plan and that we've achieved nothing is. Ludicrous on its,

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:36.960
<v Speaker 12>face it is, ludicrous but it's everywhere on the, left

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 12>and it marks the first time in my.

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Life i'm seventy years. Old i've been through a lot of,

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 1>wars a lot of, combat some of them, short some

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of them. Long this is the most decisive opening of any,

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 1>conflict Including Desert, one where it was over in one hundred.

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Hours this doesn't have any casualties on the. Ground it

0:58:56.320 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 1>has seven to twelve Dead, americans which is. Tragic no

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:03.520
<v Speaker 1>casualties from ground trips as happened In Desert. One So

0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:06.800
<v Speaker 1>i'm just thinking to, myself these people don't know history

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 1>or they simply don't care about, Facts AND i think

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it's probably.

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 12>BOTH i think it's, both BUT i think that they're

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 12>actively rooting against The United states victory Because america winning

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:20.880
<v Speaker 12>Is President trump, winning and it reminds me of The

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:25.440
<v Speaker 12>Rush limbaugh quote from When Barack obama became president and he,

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 12>Said i'd love nothing more than for him to succeed

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 12>because his success Is america's. Success that's what they should be,

0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 12>saying and that's what they should be signaling to the,

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 12>world is that they're still rooting For. America they're very clearly.

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Not they're clearly. Not, now if you were a leftist

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and you wanted to be, responsible you might say something,

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's no denying that The american military is, awesome

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that The iranians are only to get Off yosemite sam

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>shooting in every, direction hitting all of our. Allies they've

0:59:56.440 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 1>killed a couple of dozen people with thousands of missile and.

1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Drones they're not very good at their command structure, shattered

1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>but they're not dead yet and they might hang. On

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:10.240
<v Speaker 1>so we should either keep it, up double it, up

1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:13.280
<v Speaker 1>or set terms for which are reasonable for them to.

1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Concede but this idea that we're not winning and there

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:18.560
<v Speaker 1>was no? Plan did they not know anybody in The,

1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:21.320
<v Speaker 1>pentagon anyone in the. Military do you not know how

1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 1>planned this?

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Is this?

1:00:22.520 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Is this is fourteen pages of.

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:27.880
<v Speaker 12>Targets can you imagine what these people would have been

1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:31.960
<v Speaker 12>like in nineteen forty. Two, oh like the stamina that

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<v Speaker 12>they don't make it a.

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<v Speaker 1>Month they'd be Learning. Japanese they really surrender, monkeys we

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<v Speaker 1>would have called. Them AND i think it is a

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<v Speaker 1>disease AND i don't know how the country recovers from.

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<v Speaker 1>IT i also, think by the, way if it was

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<v Speaker 1>a democratic, president they'd be all for, it and they

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<v Speaker 1>would be saying they would be reporting the. Truth but

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<v Speaker 1>ezra is the most responsible of the least. Responsible does

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<v Speaker 1>that make?

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<v Speaker 12>Sense, yes absolutely, Does AND i agree with. You but

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<v Speaker 12>this is that we're on the sixth anniversary OF covid right,

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<v Speaker 12>now when we're finally delving into now it can be

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<v Speaker 12>said territory with, like oh maybe school closures were, Bad

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<v Speaker 12>oh maybe cloth masks were. Stupid we're going to get

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<v Speaker 12>there with this war in six, years.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean six years from, now we will recognize. It it

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<v Speaker 1>was a strategic and tactical. Success in, fact If cuba,

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<v Speaker 1>Falls venezuela, falls And iran is, defanged do you Think

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<v Speaker 1>trump goes down among the greatest wartime? Presidents how does he?

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<v Speaker 12>Not how does he? Not, meanwhile In, venezuela they raised

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<v Speaker 12>The american flag at The American embassy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday but that's, symbolic that's. Great you know they HAVEN'T

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<v Speaker 1>i know they're trying very hard to look not look

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<v Speaker 1>At cuba In. Venezuela they're trying not hard not to

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<v Speaker 1>look at How china has lost decisively in the last two.

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<v Speaker 1>Weeks But beth And, MANDEL i know you will be

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<v Speaker 1>covering it in The momwords dot substack dot. COM i

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<v Speaker 1>do want to thank you for love Of. Harkov that

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<v Speaker 1>was a great interview and we'll talk again next. Week Sahan,

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<v Speaker 1>mandel thank. You don't go Anywhere. America i'm. Here hewett