1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hillsdale Hillsdale dot ed or I encourage you to take 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: course I'll listen to the Hillsdale dialogues, all of them 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: at Hugh for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale and Glory and even Greats America. I'm 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Hugh Hewett back inside the Belwagh, where I feel most comfortable, 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: especially during a war, where you can doctor people throughout 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: the day about what's going on. We are winning, we 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: are winning decisively, and we will win decisively. I don't 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: know what the end state looks like in Iran, because 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: we are not seeking regime change so much as we 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: are to destroy again not merely their nuclear power program 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: and their nuclear weapons program, but the missile for us 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: that surrounds it, as well as the military structure that 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: supplies it. And we're well on our way to there. 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: President Trump gave a long press conference today. What he 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: had to say is a lot more important than what 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: I have to say. Let's go to cutt number one. 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: When this is over, oil prices are going to go 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: down very very rapidly. So is inflation, so is everything else, 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: but frankly much more important than short term or even 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: long term oil prices. You can't let the most violent, 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: vicious country in the last fifty years have a nuclear 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: weapon because. 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: The Middle East will be gone. 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: Israel will go first without question, and they'll certainly take 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: a shot at us before we get our act together 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: and say we got to take him out. 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: You can't let her on, who's truly a nation of great. 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: Terror and. 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: Power. Look what happened in the last two weeks. 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: in the Middle East. Those missiles were set to go 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: after them. 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: He's right, they're a radical, fanatical regime. By the way, 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: oil is down ninety three dollars a barrel now and 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: dropping cut number two. 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: And a lot of people are saying that he's badly disfigured. 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: They're saying that he lost his leg, the one leg, 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: and he's you know, been hurt very badly. Other people 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: are saying he's dead. Nobody's saying he's one hundred percent healthy, 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: and he hasn't you know, he hasn't spoken because the 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: Ayatola would sit and. 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: He'd spew hate from a form of a throne. Not 46 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: as nice as a throne. 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: I like the English throne much better, but it was 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: it was a fancy chair. But he'd spew hate from 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: his chair. But you see him a lot, right, this 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: one we haven't seen at all, So that could be 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: for a lot of different reasons. 52 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: We don't know. 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Peter of his dead or cut number three. The President 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: talks about who's getting help to open the strait of 55 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: horm moves. 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: Of they want to make a deal. They're talking to 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: our people. I don't know if they say that to you. 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Don't forget. 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: They are a country that for years I didn't know 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: this until recently. They're country based on disinformation and now 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: they're using information plus AI and that's a terrible situation. 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: That's a terrible situation. They showed all sorts of things 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: happening in the last two weeks that never happened, between 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: the kamikaze boats that don't exist, between blowing up the 65 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: aircraft carrier, one of the great ships in the world, 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: the Abraham Lincoln on fire. They showed it on fire. 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: I called it the General, I said, General what's with 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: the Abraham Lincoln. It looks like it's burning down. No, 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: it's not burning down. Not a bullet was ever fired 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: at it, sir. 71 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: They know better. 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: They said, this is my first glimpse of AI and 73 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: what they've done with it. They showed buildings in Tel 74 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: Aviv burning to the ground, high rises burning. They showed 75 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: buildings and Qatar. They showed buildings and Saudi Arabia burning 76 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: and they weren't burning, they weren't hit. 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: It was all AI. AI based terrible. 78 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: And it is remarkable online Now a lot of the 79 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: left has fallen for this stuff, but I don't. I 80 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: talk to people who know what they're talking about, rather 81 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: than go with the AI. Here's the cut on who's 82 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: helping us and who is in cut number four. 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: Have you been speaking with the French President Macum about 84 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: the coalition to reopen the Strait of Hormuz? 85 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have. 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: I have spoken to him. He's been on a scale 87 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: of zero to ten. I'd say he's been an eight. 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: Not perfect, but it's friends. Are you un expect perfect? 89 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 4: Are you confident that friends will help with the reopening 90 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: of the Strait of Hormus? 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been sure he's gonna I think he's going 92 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: to help him, and I'll let you know. 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: I spoke to him yesterday. I don't do a hard. 94 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: Selling them because my attitude is. 95 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: We don't need anybody. 96 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: We're the strongest nation in the world. We have the 97 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: strongest military by far in the way. We don't need them. 98 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: But it's interesting. I'm almost doing it in some cases, 99 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: not because we need them, but because i want to 100 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: find out how they react, because I've been saying for 101 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: years that if we ever did need them, they won't 102 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: be there. 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: Not all of them, but they won't be there. I 104 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: was very surprised with the. 105 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: United Kingdom because the United Kingdom two weeks ago I said, 106 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: why don't you send some ships over and he really 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: didn't want to do it. 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: The United Kingdom is endangering the future of NATO because 109 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm been a big NATO hawk. I'm a regular conservative 110 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: and have been since the eighties. Pieter strength big supporter 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: of NATO, and Poland is great. Finland, Sweden their front 112 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: line stay. Ukraine is shipping their technology from their drone 113 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: expertise to us. Everything is great, except our oldest allies 114 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: are not, especially in the United Kingdom. President went on 115 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: to say this cuttnumber five. 116 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: We don't need anybody. We're the strongest nation in the world. 117 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: We have the strongest military by far in the way. 118 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: We don't need them, And. 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: CUTT number six. 120 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: We are aggressively dismantling o rens defense industrial base and 121 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: ability to rebuild its missiles and drone capability is getting 122 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: down to close to zero, and we're hammering their capacity 123 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: to threaten commercials shipping in the Strait of Hormos with 124 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: more than thirty mine laying ships destroyed. We hit, to 125 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: the best of our knowledge, all of their mind laying ships. 126 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: Now they can put them on other. 127 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: Types of ships, I guess, and drop them in. But 128 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: we don't know that any have even been dropped in. 129 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: We're not sure that any have been. That's a big 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: negative for them. Of they do, it's a form of suicide. 131 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: But we don't know that they have dropped any. 132 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: But we've we've hit all thirty of their ships and 133 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: destroyed them. 134 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: They're all at the bottom of the sea. 135 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: We strongly encourage other nations whose economies depend. 136 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: On the Strait far more than ours. 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: You know, we get less than one percent of our 138 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: oil from the Strait, and some countries get much more. 139 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: Japan gets ninety five percent, China gets ninety percent, many 140 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: of the Europeans get quite quite a bit. South Korea 141 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: gets thirty five percent. So we want them to come 142 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: and help us with the Strait. 143 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: We have it in very good shape. 144 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: The countries, I said, we've already taken care of Iran, 145 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: but now because of the fact that literally a single 146 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: terrorist can put something in the water, or shoot something, 147 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: or shoot a missile, a small missile, and it's fairly 148 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: close range because it is a tight area, which is 149 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: one of the reasons they've always used that as a weapon. 150 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Ran has always used that as an economic weapon, and 151 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: it's not going to be able to be used very long. 152 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: Numerous countries have told me there on the way. Some 153 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: are very enthusiastic about it, and some are in summer 154 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: countries that we've. 155 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: Helped for many, many years. 156 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: We protected them from horrible outside sources, and they weren't 157 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: that enthusiastic, and the level of enthusiasm it matters to me. 158 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: We have some countries where we have forty five thousand soldiers, 159 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: great soldiers protecting them from harm's way, and we. 160 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: Have done a great job, and. 161 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: When we want to know, do you have any mind sweepers, Well, 162 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: would rather not get involved, sir, I said, for you mean, 163 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: for forty years we're protect you and you don't want 164 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: to get involved in something that is very minor, very 165 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: few shots going to be taken because they don't have 166 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: many shots left. 167 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: But they said would rather than not to get involved. 168 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: I just want the fake. 169 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: News media and everybody else to remember that that was said, 170 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: because when I've been a big critic of all of 171 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: the protecting of countries, because I know that we'll protect 172 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: them and if ever needed, if we ever needed help, 173 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: if they won't be there for us. I've just known 174 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: that for a long period of time, just like I 175 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: knew about the Strait that it would be a weapon, 176 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: which I predicted a long time ago, predicted all of 177 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: this stuff. 178 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: You guys were very generous in that I predicted. 179 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: He did predict it. He was right. And this is 180 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: a great winnowing. It's a great dividing of those who 181 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: are winners with us and those who are guinness and 182 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: those who ran away, like the United Kingdom. Now, the 183 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: United Kingdom has a historically twing government and they've run away, 184 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: but I listened to Winston Marshall today interviewing in air. 185 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: Marshall been retired for a few years. The numbers for 186 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: Great Britain are it's a parade. It's a rose parade 187 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: of a military. It's not a real military anymore. But 188 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: they could send the Dragon or a few other ships, 189 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: and it took them two weeks to get the Dragon 190 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: out of Port Cyprus. They're sovereign territory is attacked by 191 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Iran and they're not getting involved because the left wing 192 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: are pacifist. They're run by pacifists. And the United Kingdom 193 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: is no longer great. It doesn't rule a way much 194 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: less of the waves, and it's very sad. I'll be 195 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: right back in America state too. Welcome back in America. 196 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm due. You are back inside the Belway in my 197 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: beloved Virginia, where it's going to have tornadoes tight if 198 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: their local weather reporter is correct. I'm joined by the 199 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: former Governor of the Commonwealth, our friend Glenn Younkin, Governor, 200 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: Good to see you again. Are you sheltered and hunkered 201 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: for our tornado watch? 202 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 6: I'm not sheltered and hunkered down yet, but I am 203 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 6: going to postpone my voting no on this redistricting until tomorrow, 204 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 6: so that hopefully the folks can be safe around the 205 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 6: voting establishments today. But we're looking out for the weather. 206 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 6: I tell everybody please be careful. 207 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I am also I came back early because I want 208 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: to vote no on this redistricting the initiative. How does 209 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: it look to you? Gether and tell the rest of 210 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: the country what the Democrats are doing in Richmond. 211 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 6: Well, the first thing the Democrats are doing in Richmond 212 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 6: is trying to take away the vote of millions of Virginians. 213 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 6: We had a redistricting referendum in twenty twenty. Two thirds 214 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 6: of Virginians voted for an independent redistricting commission. 215 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 5: It passed, and that's what's been used. 216 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 6: And now they are trying to change this constitutional amendment 217 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 6: and once again steal votes from people. They're trying to 218 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 6: take it from a six' Five Democrat Republican house Of 219 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 6: representative team to ten to one and steal four seats. 220 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 6: Back and it's just so unfair for three big. Reasons 221 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 6: One virginian's already voted on. This two because we in 222 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 6: fact have a governor who is today on record of 223 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 6: saying that she thinks that redistricting and jerry mandering is 224 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 6: counter to, democracy and she promised everyone last summer that 225 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 6: she would not support, it and now she's out supporting. 226 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 6: Redistricting and the third part of this is what they 227 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 6: have done with these maps is. Insane they're taking Northern 228 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 6: virginia and they are pulling it into the rest of the. 229 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 6: State and let me tell, you if you live In 230 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: Hampton roads and now you're congressional representative comes From, Alexandria 231 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 6: or you live in The Shenandoah valley and congressional representative 232 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,479 Speaker 6: comes From Fairfax, county or you live In, richmond congressional 233 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 6: representative is coming From. 234 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 5: ARLINGTON i, mean it's. Nuts and so. 235 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 6: This is this moment for us to stand up As 236 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 6: virginians and vote. No the vote is open, Now early 237 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 6: voting is on and a run all the way Through 238 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 6: april twenty, first and this is a chance for us 239 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 6: to keep them from stealing four seats From republicans In. 240 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: Congress, now the best ARGUMENT i can make to, people 241 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: it's a fifty to fifty, state maybe a little bit 242 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: more blue than a little bit, red but it's. Purple 243 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: and the fact is we've got some very Senior congress 244 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: people who have positions of influence within The Republican, party 245 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: which has a. Majority this is suicidal for the interests 246 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: of the commonwealth as a just as a good government. 247 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Thing democrats should not want this to. Happen they're not 248 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: getting any money from. 249 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 5: Us, no it. 250 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 6: Is it is insane to think that it's good For 251 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 6: virginia To jerry Mannder virginia in this. Way and the 252 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 6: bottom line is, now all of a, sudden people who 253 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 6: have had real senior folks representing us in all of 254 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 6: The Armed services, committees senior folks REPRESENTING us and appropriations, 255 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 6: committees are all of a sudden going to be pushed 256 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 6: out of all of those all of those, committees and 257 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 6: we're going to See virginia. 258 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 5: Hurts But i'm just going to go back for a. 259 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 6: Minute not only is this illegal because they started this 260 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 6: process in an illegal way by carrying on a vote 261 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 6: to get it started in the middle of the last, 262 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 6: election as opposed to before, it but we also recognize 263 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 6: that they are alying to. US i Mean Abigail, spamberger 264 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 6: the current, governor stood up on the campaign trail last 265 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 6: year and said she would not support Redistrict king and, 266 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 6: jerrymandering and now she turns around and she is supporting. 267 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 6: It and it's representative of the fact that everything she 268 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 6: said on the campaign. 269 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 5: Trail has proven to be. 270 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 6: False she said she was going to stand up for 271 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 6: cost of living challenges and. Affordability and the first thing 272 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 6: they do is raise everybody's utility bill by putting us 273 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: back into this regional greenhouse gas, initiative which puts five. 274 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: Hundred million dollars on. 275 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 6: Ratepayers they say they want to keep people, safe and 276 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 6: they Make virginia sanctuary. State immediately he saw this poor woman, 277 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 6: murdered murdered at a bus station by somebody who should 278 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 6: have been handed over To. Ice and now finally they're Redistricting. 279 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 6: Virginia when she stood up and said that she would 280 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 6: not Redistrict. Virginia this is what you get from them 281 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 6: when they promised to keep their, word and they, don't 282 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 6: and therefore we cannot trust them with taking over ten 283 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 6: to one representation in The commonwealth Of. 284 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 5: Virginia GOVERNOR i. 285 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: Also want people to realize that the Standard Glenn youngkin 286 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: press conference for the last four years was to announce 287 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: that a new company was coming to the. Commonwealth and 288 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: you would meet there with THE ceo and you'd get 289 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the shovel out and you'd build. Something first announcement Under 290 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Governor spanburger Is boeing is leaving For Saint. LOUIS i 291 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: think that's going to accelerate if they passed their tax. 292 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Plan Goodbye. Virginia i've enjoyed being a, citizen But i'm 293 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: not sticking around For california. TAXES i left once. Already 294 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: that's not going to be, unique is, It? Governor, no it's. 295 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 6: Not and it's a real moment of just frustration and 296 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 6: anger for me BECAUSE i feel like we Built virginia 297 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 6: into the very best state In america to do, business 298 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 6: and we were rewarded by having one hundred and fifty 299 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 6: seven billion dollars of commitments from companies to expand and grow. 300 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 6: Here and now we see companies who are questioning whether 301 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 6: they should have done. That we See boeing pulling out 302 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 6: one of their big, divisions and all of a, sudden 303 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 6: we're going to See tennessee And North, Carolina South, Carolina, Georgia, Florida, 304 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 6: texas these other states winning where we were winning just 305 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: one year, ago two year, ago three years, ago and 306 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 6: it has everything to do with pushing an anti business 307 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 6: agenda From, richmond where they raise the cost of doing 308 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 6: business In virginia in such a. 309 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: Way that people, Say, NOPE i don't want to be. 310 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 5: Here i'm going to go someplace. 311 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 6: Else And i'll tell you, Also, hugh What i'm hearing 312 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 6: from folks is that people are starting to pack up and. 313 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Move as. 314 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 6: Well AS i travel, around i'm in, airports people come 315 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 6: up and, Say, GOVERNOR i loved it when you were, 316 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 6: there BUT i can't take it And i'm going to. 317 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 6: Leave AND i think that The democrats constantly forget that 318 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 6: families choose they want to live based on where their 319 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 6: best future is going to, be and businesses choose where 320 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 6: they're going to be based on their opportunity to. Thrive 321 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 6: virginia had demonstrated during our four years we could do. 322 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 6: Both we grew people and we grew. Businesses and it's 323 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 6: going the other direction now. 324 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: Now, GOVERNOR i do want to get one question in 325 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: because you were a friend of the military three or 326 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: four years In. Richmond you've always been supportive of the. 327 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: Military we're involved in this compact combat With. Iran i've 328 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: been playing The president's press. CONFERENCE i think it's going Extraordinarily. 329 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: WELL i got family in The. Navy they think it's 330 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: going Extraordinarily, well what do you think of the? Mission 331 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: what do you think of the need to see it? 332 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: Through, yeah we have to see this through to comprehensive. 333 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 5: Victory there's no half measure. 334 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 6: Here and THEREFORE i am so proud of the men 335 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 6: and women who serve The American Armed. Forces they are 336 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 6: the best in the, world the best it has ever, 337 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: been and they, will in fact do the duty that 338 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 6: needs to be, done which is a comprehensive. Victory iran 339 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 6: can never be allowed to have a nuclear, way and 340 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 6: they must never have the ability to attack their. 341 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 5: Neighbors they can no longer fund their. 342 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 6: Proxies we have seen already the decimation of their, navy 343 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 6: the decimation of their, leadership and our great military has 344 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 6: to finish this job in a comprehensive. Way i'm one 345 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 6: hundred percent behind, them AND i ask For god's blessing 346 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 6: on each and every one of. 347 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: Them and a final, question we had a terrorist attack 348 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: On Old. Dominion you you put a lot of time 349 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: and effort into preparing our universities and our schools to be. 350 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: Safe it's, shocking but it's a. Reality. Governor do you 351 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: think The democrats are up to dealing with this at 352 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: the state. 353 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 5: LEVEL i don't think they. 354 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 6: ARE i think they firmly believe that people who are 355 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: Naturalized american citizens who come out and pledge allegiance TO 356 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 6: isis should stay in the. 357 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: Country AND i. 358 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 6: Firmly believe that someone who is a naturalized citizen who 359 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 6: pledges allegiance TO isis and has to go to jail 360 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 6: because of it should have their citizenship revoked and they 361 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 6: should be deported. Immediately that guy should have never been In. 362 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 6: America that guy should have been deported a long time. 363 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: Ago and the fact that because of soft policies on 364 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 6: these kinds of, moments it allows a, murderer a terrorist 365 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: to stay in The United states and take the life 366 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 6: of a hero At Old Domini. University And i'm gonna tell, 367 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 6: you Those rozi students in the classroom are. Heroes AND 368 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 6: i just pray for that man's. Family he was a 369 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 6: True american hero and it should have never. 370 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: Happened. 371 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: Governor good to see. You we will be out voting 372 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: no on the initiative Before april twenty. 373 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: Fourth do not. 374 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Wait get out and vote. Tomorrow once the rain. Stops thank, 375 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: You Governor Glenn. Younkins stay tuned In. America we'll come 376 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: back In. America I'm Hugh hewittt with my insurer in, 377 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Chief Selena. Zito, selena you're very happy with The World Baseball, 378 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: classic aren't. 379 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 7: YOU i, mean we've got two full pledge insers. 380 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 8: In, there and one who calls himself an honorary jur 381 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 8: With Paul. 382 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 7: Skin So i'm feeling all the. 383 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: GREATNESS i Want paul bitch the final, game BUT i 384 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: don't think he, will will, he because that's we. Got 385 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna Play italy Or, venezuela one or the. 386 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 7: OTHER i don't. KNOW i MEAN i want him to. 387 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 7: TOO i love. Him that guy's a. Beast he's An 388 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 7: Air force he was in The Air Force. 389 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 8: Academy he is so patriotic and he's such a good 390 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 8: leader on that, team but they all. Are this has 391 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 8: been the most Fun i've had in, baseball And i've 392 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 8: gone to Three World series all right. 393 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: NOW i read a play for that was a long time. 394 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: Ago because if it's The, pirates that's a long time all. Right, 395 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: So Selena Ezra, Kleine New York times Podcaster i've Known 396 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: ezra for thirty five. Years he was one year ahead 397 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: of my. DAUGHTER i saw him as the Surfing santa 398 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: in the seventh grade. Play and he went to The 399 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: university Of Santa cruz and he got HIS. Bep but you, 400 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: KNOW i tried very hard not to let. That he 401 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: was a smart, kid eager, kid want talk politics all the. 402 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: Time he's following his. Dream he's done very. Well he started, 403 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: vox he's at The New York. Times but when it 404 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: comes to, depth SOMETIMES i, wonder here's the opening of his. 405 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: PODCAST i will play little bits of it And i'll 406 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: get your. Comment let's start. 407 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 9: IT i found myself struggling to describe the War President 408 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 9: trump has chosen to enter into With, iran the strange 409 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 9: lightness with which he seems to have chosen. 410 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 10: This. 411 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: Don't leave. You let's stop right. There the strange lightness 412 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: with which he has seemed to have chosen. This what 413 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: does that, Mean? 414 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 5: SELENA i don't. 415 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 8: KNOW i don't know what strange lightness, is BUT i 416 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 8: would sure love to see him do that podcast sort 417 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 8: of as an on this day in seventeen seventy, six 418 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 8: because there's a whole lot of strange lightness That George 419 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 8: washington And. 420 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 7: Henry knox And Nathaniel green and all of them went 421 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 7: through in this. 422 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 8: Time And i'm sure there was AN x there was a, 423 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 8: podcasters and there wasn't today's media covering it because they 424 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 8: would have given up and. 425 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 7: Their souls would have been crushed by the way it 426 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 7: would have been. 427 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: Covered Israel putnam would not have done. WELL i, mean 428 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: as a, client wouldn't have done well With Israel putnam 429 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: On Bunker hill or in the retreat From New. York 430 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: here's part two Of Ezra's opening Your. 431 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: Home it's very dangerous. Outside bombs will be dropping. 432 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 9: EVERYWHERE i would, say the, worst spiraling out of, control 433 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 9: but there's never real pretense in that it was under. 434 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: Control all, right, STOP i find. 435 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: It selena is the worst spilering out of, control and 436 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: was there ever any pretense that it was in? CONTROL i, 437 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: mean these are vapid things to. 438 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 7: Say these are very vapid things to. 439 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 8: Say AND i imagine him in that sort of moody 440 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 8: scenery that he's doing there Interviewing Benedict arnold and why 441 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 8: his mind changed after he was injured in The battle For, Quebec, 442 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 8: RIGHT i mean it gives YOU. 443 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: O i'm sorry so. 444 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: Earnest i'm very. Earnest though at part number, three let's 445 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: get more. 446 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 9: Earnest hard to Say trump's plan for the worst failing 447 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 9: because it is not clear there was any plan at all. 448 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: There this is the one that gets me BECAUSE i 449 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: know too many people in the. MILITARY i have a 450 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: son in law and nephew on active. Duty my son 451 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: just got off of active. Duty everything is a. Plan 452 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: this is the most. Plan we've been planning this for forty. 453 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: Years where do people get Off selena talking about stuff like? 454 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 8: This it Is it is astounding to watch, that to 455 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 8: be honest with, You and it's almost like a dramatic 456 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 8: reading of current, events and it's done with all kinds 457 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 8: of atmospheres and different camera. Angles but the lack of 458 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 8: depth is coming from what he's, doing and it's really 459 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 8: disappointing to see this turned into sort of a staged craft. 460 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: Event it's not a political. 461 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: Event it's a. War Twelve americans have dying. 462 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 7: Me, yeah, yeah it's a. 463 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 8: War and our military has been extraordinary in this. War 464 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 8: and it is such a sharp contrast to what we 465 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 8: saw In august twenty seventh of twenty twenty, one and 466 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 8: it is what they have achieved should be talked. 467 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 7: About i'm not saying cheered, on but at least. 468 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 8: Talked about with the depths that it, deserves along with 469 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 8: all of the sort of capabilities they have with. Technology it's, 470 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 8: astounding and yet he's turning it into days of our. 471 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 7: Lives it. 472 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: IS i also want to make SURE i touch on 473 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: someone on the internet got the great idea to Suggest 474 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: butler was. Staged the attempt to kill the president and 475 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: the murder Of Corey comparatoy was, staged and you took 476 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: out after. Them can you believe someone did? That and 477 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: how far it? Traveled now? 478 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 7: Fast it traveled. 479 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 8: Fast it was cut and paste and used by a 480 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 8: lot of people with very very large accounts THAT i don't. 481 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 7: Even know if they're real. 482 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 8: People but that doesn't, matter because it penetrates into the. 483 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 8: Psyche the good news is the only ten percent of 484 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 8: the entire country Uses, twitter and of that ten, percent 485 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 8: about two thirds of it are the only ones that 486 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 8: use it, Actively so at least it's not something that 487 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 8: penetrates in real life in the way they believe that it. 488 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 7: Does but it. Is it is, crude it's, vulgar it's. 489 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 8: Insulting someone's, husband, father and son died that day right 490 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 8: in front of, me AND i. 491 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 11: Saw two men gravely, injured and those bullets went right 492 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 11: over my. Head and you, know it's like people don't 493 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 11: understand the shell, shocked. Right people just stood there because 494 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 11: you can't believe it's. 495 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 7: Real that was what the poster was. 496 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: Saying the, posters, well they didn't act like there was 497 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: an active, shooter and they were it was over too. 498 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 7: Quickly, YEAH i didn't. 499 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 8: Know there was like a handbook that went out and 500 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 8: said this is how you behave if there's an active, 501 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 8: shooting and if you, don't then you're. 502 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 7: Lying. 503 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, WELL i want to compliment you for the rapidity 504 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: with which you responded and the efficacy with which you, 505 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: responded and the fact that others join you in responding 506 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: and calling out that. Individual have they? 507 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 8: Apologized, no of course not, no because that will require. 508 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: Them to have a. 509 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 8: Soul have they doubled down or they don't? 510 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: Have did they double? Down? 511 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 8: Yeah they continue talking about it as if. 512 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 7: They're they had they have moral clarity on. 513 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 12: It. 514 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Clickbait that's all it was was. Clickbait Selena zito good 515 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: to see you follow her on ex At Zito. Selena 516 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: everything she writes is available At Selena zito dot. Com 517 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: i'll be right back In america's state, Time ernit and Grace. 518 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: America i'm, Here, hewitt back inside The, belway just in 519 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: time for storms will rock your. Teeth i'm joined by 520 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: The foundation for The Defensive democracy senior Fellow ben And Ben. 521 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: Tellablue he's been on. Before he is an expert on 522 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: The iran missile program and on all Things Iran. America benam, 523 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: and welcome. BACK i don't know if you heard The 524 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: president's press. Conference they've been playing a lot of. It, 525 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: first your assessment where we stand On monday afternoon in 526 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: our war With. 527 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 10: Iran, well great to be with you again. Here always 528 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 10: a pleasure. LISTEN i think militarily things are looking. Up 529 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 10: there's some real questions right now as to what will 530 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 10: THE us do in this trait of horror. Moves in, 531 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 10: fact the maritime domain is really the area that has 532 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 10: the eyes of everyone from markets to moneymakers to. Policymakers 533 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 10: that's WHERE i think The president may be looking to 534 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 10: get a military wind to begin to be able to 535 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 10: push away from the. TABLE i certainly think it's, doable 536 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 10: but nonetheless it's, costly it's. Risky BUT i think the 537 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 10: more the regime, escalates the more they kind of use 538 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 10: a sort Of damicle's approach to ships entering and exiting 539 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 10: The persian golf as they have been just hours, ago 540 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 10: checking the insurance and the shipping and the flagging and 541 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 10: the registry of all the ships that are coming and. 542 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 10: Going that is something that we cannot allow to. Happen 543 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 10: we cannot allow the world's foremost state sponsor of terrorism 544 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 10: to basically have a veto over who gets to use 545 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 10: and cross the straight up horm. Moves so at all, 546 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 10: LIKELIHOOD i think things are looking likely to escalate in 547 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 10: the next. 548 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: WEEK i think you're. Right oil is at ninety four 549 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: dollars a barrel right, now down From fridays one hundred 550 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: dollars a barrel AS i think the world oil markets 551 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: begin to recognize That Saudi arabia has got a pipeline 552 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: as an. ALTERNATIVE eae, Doesn't kuwait, doesn't but The saudi 553 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: is Doing they can offset a lot of the oil 554 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't make it through. Straight BUT i also believe 555 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: That i've heard so many naval Experts i'm as, civilian 556 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: But i've got family in The, navy family in the. 557 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: Fight i've got lots of experts On this has been 558 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: gamed out for a long. Time. Beat it's not like 559 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: anyone is surprised That iran is trying. 560 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 10: This, Yeah and in, Fact i'm surprised that the number 561 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 10: of experts and policymakers that are trying to hold The 562 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 10: trump administration to account here saying that THE us is fundamentally. 563 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 10: UNPREPARED i, mean there may be a criticism to, level given, 564 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 10: force posture and time and political risks, involved but given 565 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 10: the fact that THE us quite literally did this before 566 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 10: in the nineteen, eighties and given that the job of 567 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 10: The pentagon is to, plan and given even that The 568 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 10: obama administration was able to keep two carriers inside The 569 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 10: Persian gulf at times and be able to thwart and 570 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 10: push back on the threats to actually close this, strait 571 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 10: and that The trump administration in term one dealt with 572 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 10: things like limpet mind attacks as well as later on 573 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 10: drone attacks and drone, buzzing this was a surprise to literally. 574 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 10: Nobody and given the job of The pentagon being to, 575 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 10: PLAY i actually think our men and women in uniform 576 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 10: will have quite a few tricks up their sleeve if 577 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 10: they're given the time in the space to pull them. 578 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: Out, So, BEN i want to play for you a 579 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: little bit of As. Decline and Now i've Known ezra 580 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: for almost forty, years maybe thirty five, years because he 581 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: was in elementary school with my, daughter and SO i 582 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: know him as the Surfing santa from the seventh grade. 583 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: Play So i've always tried to get that out of 584 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: my mind because he's done well for. Himself he very, 585 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: articulate hasn't ever held a classified, job has never been 586 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: in national security, work so he kind of make it 587 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: up as he goes. Along but today's, podcast well it 588 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: began this, way play it for benan PLACE. 589 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 9: I found myself struggling to describe the War President trump 590 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 9: has chosen to enter into With, iran the strange lightness 591 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 9: with which he seems to have chosen. 592 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: This stay, sheltered don't leave your. Home it's very dangerous. 593 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: Outside bombs we'll be dropping every. 594 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 9: WHERE i would say the war's spiraling out of, control 595 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 9: but there's never a real pretense in that it was under. 596 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 9: CONTROL i find it hard to Say trump's plan for 597 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 9: the worst failing because it is not clear there was 598 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 9: any plan at. 599 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: All all, right let's stop right. There these are. Cliches 600 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: these are words strung together to Critique Donald, trump and 601 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: they're all manifestly. FALSE i don't call them a lie 602 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think Probably ezra believes, them but he doesn't 603 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: know anything about the, military and he doesn't know anything 604 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: that we've done about. Them what's your commentary On Ezra klein's. 605 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 10: Commentary, well, actually the funny thing about this conflict is 606 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 10: that if you have a, rationale you can take your. 607 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 10: Rationale it's kind of Like. Obamacare if you like your, 608 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 10: provider you can keep your. Provider or allegedly that's what 609 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 10: the administration used to say back in the. Day if 610 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 10: this is a human rights driven mission for, you well 611 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 10: this is a mission against the. Regime if this is counter, 612 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 10: proliferation well it's about stopping the world's states cons of 613 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 10: terrorism from getting nuclear. Weapons if it's about defanging and 614 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 10: leveling the playing, field well certainly there's an opportunity there 615 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 10: against the regimes missile and military. Apparatus and if it's 616 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 10: about freedom of navigation, economics well then there's a rationale 617 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 10: for you to support what THE us is doing in 618 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 10: the straight up home moves and in The Persian. Gulf 619 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 10: so there's multiple, rationales multiple pathways that get you to 620 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 10: The president being willing and able to pull the trigger 621 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 10: to deal with this urgent national security challenge unlike his. 622 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 10: Predecessors and WHILE i do agree that mores can easily 623 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 10: spiral out of, control and that is one of the 624 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 10: things that The Islamic republic is playing up and is playing, 625 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 10: towards it's the goal of the more responsible power to 626 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 10: be able to, escalate not, incrementally but, significantly to show 627 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 10: that time is not a weapon on the side of the. 628 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 10: Adversary it is on the side of THE us and 629 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 10: it's partners and. Allies and ultimately here the fact That 630 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 10: President trump is flexible offers, audiences like audiences in The 631 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 10: New York, times more app pathways to an off ramp 632 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 10: to exiting the common inflict than actually doubling down and 633 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 10: staying within the. Conflict so the lack of a clearly 634 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 10: defined end. State if you are a Classic New York 635 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 10: times view or a listener and you want, less not 636 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 10: more conflict Than Middle, east that should be music to 637 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 10: your ears as far As i'm. Concerned if you're like, 638 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 10: me and you have a clear stated end, goal and 639 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 10: you want The president to double down and triple down 640 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 10: to make sure that we can actually check every single 641 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 10: box rather than just one of those military missions THAT 642 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 10: i laid. Out, well then you're actually going to be 643 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 10: a little bit. Critical So i'm a little bit puzzled 644 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 10: by the criticism of the flexible approach The president has 645 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 10: taken here by the likes of summ of The New York. 646 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: Times i'm not puzzled only because it's what they. Do 647 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: BUT i want to try now to forget all the 648 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: idiocy and articulate What John, wooden who you're too younger, 649 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: member used to call the pyramid of, success and you 650 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: start at the bottom and you build to the. Top 651 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: the very bottom of the pyramid of success here is to, 652 00:33:54,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: me the elimination of any nuclear weapons production. Ability President 653 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: trump obliterated. It they began to rebuild. It he's obliterated it, 654 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: again along with the help Of. ISRAEL i haven't seen 655 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: much report of what THE b twos have been. HITTING 656 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: i hope they Hit Pickaxe. Mountain but that is the 657 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: most important bottom of the. Pyramid nothing else. Matters if 658 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: that isn't done how do you assess the success on, That, Benham. 659 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 10: Well we have two outstanding questions when it comes to 660 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 10: the base of your. Pyramid and you know if this regime, 661 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 10: survives and you know if there is even what our 662 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 10: office is calling a phase two AT, fdd which is 663 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 10: the potential to nest a larger mission against the security 664 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 10: forces following a larger mission to defang this. Regime if 665 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 10: that is your goal right, now if you don't properly 666 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 10: get rid of all of the nuclear capacity and, capability 667 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 10: well then you will have something like a Middle Eastern 668 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 10: North korea on your hands as you move closer and 669 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 10: closer to dealing a death blow against this. Regime so 670 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 10: the two things that you're looking for in my, view 671 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 10: to make sure the pyramid has a, long flat rather 672 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 10: than a, narrow pointy base is to make sure that 673 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 10: one the fissile, material meaning the four hundred plus a 674 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 10: kilograms of sixty percent, uranium is actually not on a running, 675 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 10: territory whether that's destroyed or actually confiscated in some special 676 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 10: forces mission. 677 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: That is A. 678 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 10: Tbd but perhaps equally important is to Destroy Pickaxe, mountain 679 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 10: either again with explosive charges inside or potentially something covert 680 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 10: and sabotage inside or with air power from the. Outside you, 681 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 10: know the regime maybe doubling down and digging a deeper 682 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 10: hole in the, ground but they should always Remember Uncle 683 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 10: sam has a bigger. Bomb so the success of the 684 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 10: counter proliferation mission against the regime's future nuclear capacity rests 685 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 10: in dealing With Pickaxe mountain and getting rid of the fysile. 686 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 10: Material thus, far we haven't seen a movement towards that 687 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 10: yet because the next layer of the pyramid has been 688 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 10: the priority target for the administration and that's been defanging 689 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 10: the regime's missile. 690 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: Program. Yeah on the second level of the, pyramid it's 691 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: the destruction of the defense of the nuclear, program and 692 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: that destruction of the defenses is the missile arsenal about 693 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: which you are. Expert how do you view part, two 694 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: step two of the pyramid going because if it, remains 695 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: it can be expanded and they can defend that enriched, 696 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: uranium they can defend Piac Matc. Mountain they can do 697 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: this all again times ten unless we destroy their production. 698 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 10: Capacity, yeah the beating heart Of iran's ballistic missile production 699 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 10: was struck during THESE us operations in the past two 700 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 10: two and a half, weeks and that is anywhere from 701 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 10: three to five, sites but in Particular hojir Shah, rude Sem, 702 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 10: Non parchin And. Esfahan these are at least five, facilities 703 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 10: the first Three, hojiir Shah rude And parchin that matter 704 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 10: greatly to solid propellant, production motor, development, casting and things 705 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 10: needed to actually produce and field ballistic. Missile and ballistic 706 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 10: missiles form the backbone of the regime's policy of det by. 707 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 10: Punishment so Unlike America, israel The Arab states of The Persian, 708 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 10: Gulf iran doesn't have robust air and missile defenses that 709 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 10: can defend. It the way it defends, itself the way 710 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 10: defends its, regime the way defends its territory is the 711 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 10: threat of, punishment and the main tool of that punishment 712 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 10: right now is this arsenal of ballistic missiles about eighty 713 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 10: to ninety percent of the fire which has been suppressed 714 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 10: by THE. US i, believe, however we are in a 715 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 10: position of what political scientists call, equifinality which is many 716 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 10: reasons why the regimes fire is. Suppressed one is the 717 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 10: success of the launcher, mission and two is the regime 718 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 10: actually holding a few capabilities for survival. 719 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: Purposes let him stand. By we're going to come back 720 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: with part two of our pyramid of success Against iran 721 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: with benham right after these messages on The Hugh Hewitt, Show. 722 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 5: Welcome back To. 723 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: America I'm HUGH Hewittt ben And Ben talablu is with. 724 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: Me he is from The foundation for The defense Of. 725 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: Democracy follow at REAL BENMBT x Benemon tier one that we. 726 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: Discussed we are winning, decisively but we have not yet 727 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: won a decisive win on tier, two which is the. 728 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: Missiles and you've named the five. Facilities are we fifty 729 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: percent of the way? There seventy? Percent how do you 730 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: judge it FROM afar. 731 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 10: Based on commercially available satellite imagery, imagery you know you 732 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 10: could top it off at about eighty plus. Percent, again 733 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 10: this is the back of the envelope. Calculation but you 734 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 10: need to marry the eighty two of the eighty plus 735 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 10: percent with the actual subterranean facilities that house what's left 736 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 10: Of iran's missiles And iran's. Launchers and if you look 737 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 10: At iran's geography and you look at where missiles have 738 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 10: been fired from, before and you layer on top of 739 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 10: that commercially available satellite, imagery you get at least four 740 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 10: chains of, bases a, western a, central an, eastern and 741 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 10: a southern. Coastal knowing what we know about known or 742 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 10: declared or Revealed iranian subterranean missile, bases many though not, 743 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 10: all of which are connected underground to each, other there 744 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 10: are anywhere from nineteen to twenty two that need to be. 745 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 10: STRUCK i think there is evidence for anywhere from seventeen 746 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 10: to twenty that The trump, administration again using commercially available 747 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 10: to satellite, imagery has been able to. Strike we cannot 748 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 10: guarantee or verify one hundred percent of, those nor CAN 749 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 10: i tell you from this distance how damage they. Are 750 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 10: but my logic, is AND i wrote this before the, 751 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 10: war rather than defend just against the, missile and rather 752 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 10: than target just the, launcher you need to collapse the 753 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 10: facility that houses both the launcher and the missiles and 754 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 10: take that as a capability off of the playing field 755 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 10: and then move towards. Capacity that seems to be in 756 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 10: slow motion what The trump administration is. Doing BUT i 757 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 10: will say the bulk of the air, power given how 758 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 10: MUCH isr we, have is being used to target those missile, 759 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 10: launchers and that's why you see sencom putting out so 760 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 10: many videos targeting those launchers which are out of their 761 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 10: bases and in different areas than ever. 762 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: Before level of the pyramid success is command and. Control 763 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: but for both their missile and their. Navy those are 764 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: the two arms of The iranian military that can threaten 765 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: the international. Community their, navy it's been. SUNK i would 766 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: say we are almost at one hundred percent success there 767 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: and the command and control structure for their. Country what 768 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: do you think about? That you, know this. 769 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 10: Is a state that is not aspiring to be A 770 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 10: scandinavian welfare state that can actually provide for the means 771 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 10: of its own. People, unfortunately these are guys that are 772 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 10: okay being king of the, heap king of the garbage 773 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 10: dump it in so many, ways they may make you 774 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 10: burn through the country to get. Them and even if 775 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 10: we before the, conflict before The Twelve Day, war even 776 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 10: this was a regime that was sliding towards bringing you 777 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 10: on into failed state status, anyway and in that, situation 778 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 10: given the fact That, kammende who was eighty six before 779 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 10: and now is, deceased wasn't guiding every single, missile wasn't 780 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 10: choosing every single, target even though he was intimately involved 781 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 10: in broader national security decisions in that. Country it's highly 782 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 10: likely you have a, decentralized almost zombie national security deep 783 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 10: state choosing their, targets which is why they've thrice fired 784 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 10: AT nato Ally, turkey why they've continued to fire At 785 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 10: qatar and The omanis in The Persian gulf and even 786 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 10: Targeted Azerbai john. Withrown so you have a zombie state 787 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 10: kind of that is, decentralized that doesn't have command and, 788 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 10: control which is kind of forcing you to go after 789 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 10: all of these units provincially to suppress and defeat. 790 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: Them all, Right so the penultimate level of the pyramid 791 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: success is to degrade the besiege so they cannot massacre 792 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of. People, again The israelis have been 793 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: intent on doing. This there's really no way to make 794 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: an educated guess about what percentage has been. Destroyed but 795 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: there are reports of defections and dismay among the. Ranks 796 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: what do you make of? 797 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 10: That, again you're, right this stuff is largely. Anecdotal but 798 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 10: over that would say the past three to five, days these, 799 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 10: rallies based on publicly reported, information have been going against 800 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 10: law enforcement forces and besiege. Facilities we know that in 801 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 10: the past areas where compounds and barracks have been, bombed 802 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 10: some of these security forces have put up. Tents then 803 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 10: these rallies have strayed the. Tents we know areas where 804 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 10: barracks and compounds have been bombed AND iergc folks went 805 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 10: into soccer, stadiums particularly on the, periphery not on the, 806 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 10: field and those peripheries of those stadiums have also been. 807 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 10: Bombed we also know, that of, course many of these 808 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 10: pseudo self established besiege and law enforcement checkpoints to prevent 809 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 10: against traffic flows and to kind of monitor the situation 810 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 10: on the street have also been. Bombed and we also 811 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 10: know the regime is putting armored personnel carriers under things 812 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 10: that give it physical cover to avoid getting, struck things 813 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 10: like bridges and, tunnels and these rarely still, withdrones seem 814 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 10: to be able to do. This there's even reports right 815 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 10: now That iranian dissidents are using The Iranian apps to 816 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 10: be able to communicate externally with Some israelis to provide live, 817 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 10: targeting although this report has not been able to be independently, 818 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 10: confirmed but it does marry with the, zeitgeist of the 819 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 10: bits and starts of, information and of the willingness of 820 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 10: Many iranians to be able to benefit from foreign support 821 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 10: to disable this apparatus of. 822 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: Repression so the very lat at the top is regime 823 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: change or regime coersion to a different kind of regime 824 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: that doesn't threaten its. Neighbors might not be a, democracy 825 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: but it might simply be defanged and new leadership Not 826 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: mula's not theocratic. Fanaticism how close to that do you 827 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: think we? 828 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 10: Are, WELL i actually do not believe in the theory 829 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 10: of regime. Evolution. Here this is The Middle, east meaning 830 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 10: things can get, worse not, better and indeed they. Are 831 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 10: and if this regime survives the major rounds of, fighting 832 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 10: get ready for A Middle eastern version Of North korea 833 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 10: which is more, paranoid more, i more, militarized and more 834 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 10: team on revenge and rebuilding than ever. Before so the 835 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 10: success of the defanging mission militarily will necessarily need to 836 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 10: be nested into a larger counter regime mission that is. 837 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 10: Political there will be no premature victory lap to be 838 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 10: had just because of military successes, alone and that's why 839 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 10: it's imperative The trump administration stopped trying to force A 840 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 10: venezuela model onto a country who's governing, elite whose military, 841 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 10: capacity whose, state whose, society whose opposition looks nothing Like venezuela, 842 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 10: TODAY i don't believe you can actually have. That somewhat 843 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 10: softer gentler Is Lama. REPUBLIC i do believe here These 844 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 10: lamach republic is going to force you to play to the, 845 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 10: edge which is to win and knock out the system, 846 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 10: altogether or to risk the collapse and potentially move towards 847 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 10: failed state. Status AND i think in that, Dichotomy Uncle 848 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 10: sam cannot be. Indifferent it is doing quite well against 849 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 10: the levels of the pyramid that you have. Raised but 850 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 10: not one of, THEM i want to, stress not one of, 851 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 10: them or yet at a n. Percent some of, them 852 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 10: like the missile, one are quite, close and that is 853 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 10: an impressive. Achievement but we have to remember this is 854 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 10: The Middle. East in The Middle, east you can have 855 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 10: many a military, victory but few have had political. Victory 856 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 10: and that's why it's imperative to link the way it 857 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 10: means it ends. 858 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: Here so my last, question is the world better off 859 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: today than it was sixteen days? 860 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 10: Ago the, world, yes the world in so many. Ways 861 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 10: given the fact that The islamarco public is firing more 862 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 10: missiles than, before it's threatening the strait of horror moves 863 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 10: more than ever. Before it's a measure of how much 864 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 10: weaker it is than ever. Before and the weaker and 865 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 10: the more defanged this regime is the net positive it 866 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 10: will be to its, people to the, region To, america To, 867 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 10: israel and to the. World but there is no premature 868 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 10: victory lap to be able to have. YET a weak 869 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 10: regime can still be, lethal they can still, rebuild and 870 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 10: to provide oxygen to a regime that will be willing 871 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 10: to use these weapons more than ever before would be a. 872 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 10: Mistake so just because things are trending in the right 873 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 10: direction does mean that in a highly volatile and dynamic battlefield, 874 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 10: situation we should be taking our eyes and off the 875 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 10: prize and our hands off the. Wheel that is WHAT 876 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 10: i would caution at. 877 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: This, moment well, said a, caution well. Advised benam Ben, 878 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: talablue thank you for joining me from The foundation for 879 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: The Defensive, Democracy senior fellow there follow him on Ex 880 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: ben m b e h n a m actually the 881 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: real ven M, vt the Real ben M vt and 882 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: read him at FT. D thank. You i'll be right 883 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: back In. America stay, Tuned welcome Back. AMERICA a few 884 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,479 Speaker 1: weeks AGO i had on my Friend Dennis praeger talking 885 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: about the new book he is authored with my next, 886 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: Guest Joel. Alprin the new book Is if There Is No. 887 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: God it is selling quite. Rapidly, joel how are you? 888 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: Aware are? You i'm. 889 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 13: Fantasticstic i'm In, omaha and, respectfully it's. 890 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: Alperson oh go, ahead, sorry you Know i've got my 891 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: notes back on The west. Coast. Joel you're In. Omaha 892 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: that's where you had the original sit down with these 893 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: kids from which you And dennis wrote this. Book how 894 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: did you come to be An? Omaha? 895 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 13: Oh my grandparents moved here AND i don't know what 896 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 13: brought them here, originally but my parents stayed AND i 897 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 13: love the community And i've. 898 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: Stayed SO i want to go back over for the 899 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: people who miss the first interview With, dennis and it's 900 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: available on my YouTube. Channel if There Is No god came, 901 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: out oh maybe three weeks. AGO i talked To dennis 902 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: SO i could drop it on pub, Date page forty. 903 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: Nine the advice you to offer to every reader live 904 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: as if you Believe god, exists Why, Joel because. 905 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 13: If you, don't then there's no objective standard from. Morality 906 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 13: and people have to realize that if there's no objective 907 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 13: standard from, morality everybody gets to make it up as they. 908 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 13: Want and in, fact we're living at a time right 909 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 13: now where we're seeing that happen. Increasingly dennis had an 910 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 13: op ed that went The New York post recently which 911 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 13: talked about the number of people who supported the act 912 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 13: Of Luigi, mangioni the murder that he conducted In New York, 913 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 13: city and a significant percentage of young people in particular 914 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 13: endorsed that. 915 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: View once you take objective. 916 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 13: Morality, away and that can only come From, god you've 917 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 13: taken the guardrails off of, morality and as a, result 918 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 13: anything anybody thinks is good can be, good because who 919 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 13: is to say otherwise all you have is conflicting. Opinions 920 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 13: you have no. Standards it would be as if you 921 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 13: tried to argue math without the laws of mathematics one, PERSON. 922 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: I usually did, Math so that's HOW i usually did. 923 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: Math it didn't work out. Well but when you write, 924 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: that when you wrote them, forward you talk about convening 925 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: these kids In. Omaha have you stayed in touch with 926 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: any of? 927 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:07,439 Speaker 12: Them. 928 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 13: NO i mean some of them are members of my, 929 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 13: synagogue BUT i. Haven't, however if this is what you're touching, 930 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 13: ON i did do a survey after the weekend was, 931 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 13: over and a granted that was over thirty years, ago 932 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 13: But i'll tell you about half of the kids weren't 933 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,479 Speaker 13: very happy with the. Weekend and when you think about, 934 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 13: it it makes some sense because they expected to come 935 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 13: for a weekend On jewish stuff and have a Kumbah ya. 936 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 13: Session AND i didn't intentionally set it up to be a. 937 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 13: Battle that wasn't my. Intention but as you Know dennis very, 938 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 13: well if he, disagrees he'll make his disagreement, known and he. 939 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 13: Did and for a lot of these, kids it was 940 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 13: the first time that they had heard somebody tell them 941 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 13: that their most deeply, held passionately held feelings beliefs might 942 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 13: have really bad, consequences and they didn't love hearing that very. 943 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: Much, Now dennis is guiding precept for the thirty five 944 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: Years i've known him as clarity before. Agreement so let's 945 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: make sure we know what we each. Believe then we 946 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: can see if we can agree on something but kudos 947 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: to the. Kids page seventy. Five one of them, Asked, 948 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: dennis why does it have to be biblical, Values why 949 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: can't it just be human. Values what's the answer to, That, joel, alperson. 950 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 13: Because you're back to what any one person thinks is 951 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 13: good is, good and what any one person thinks is 952 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 13: bad is. Bad there were, kids AND i think this 953 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 13: is noted in the, book, who when questioned if they 954 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,280 Speaker 13: would Challenge hitler if they Thought hitler was, wrong SAID 955 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 13: i think he's, wrong BUT i don't think i'd have 956 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 13: the right to say so to. HIM i don't think 957 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 13: i'd have the right to negate his. Belief and that's 958 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 13: what happens when it's human. Values human values Is latin 959 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 13: for any. Values and, again we're living at a. Time i'm, SORRY. 960 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: I, said you're, right any value at all doesn't. Matter 961 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: if you don't if the human, values the next person 962 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: can believe in genocide and you can't argue with. Him. 963 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: JOEL i want to ask about the end of the 964 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: book because we had the attack on the synagogue In 965 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: michigan On. FRIDAY i believe Anti semitism is a result 966 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: of the task for which The jews were. Chosen in 967 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: the words Of Edward, flannery the Imminent catholic priest and, 968 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: historian The jews carry the burden Of god and his 969 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: moral law in. History did you want that, Job? 970 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 13: Joel there's A talmudic story of The tumult is an 971 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 13: extensive commentary on The, torah and not surprisingly because it's 972 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 13: part of The jewish, tradition filled with, debates filled with 973 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 13: disagreements and back and. Forth but that's one of the 974 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 13: things that makes it important and. Vital there's a story that, 975 00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 13: says because the mountain apparent in The jews, were according to. 976 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 10: The hebrew under the, mountain That god held the mountain over. 977 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 13: Their, heads asking what they wanted to accept their, responsibility 978 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 13: and so under those circumstances they, Said yet so even 979 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 13: The torah and the time was recognized this was not. 980 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 3: Going to be an easy. 981 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: Justice it. Is in, fact the book makes it. Easier 982 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: if there is No god By Dennis praeger And Joel. 983 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: Alperson if there is No, god go To amazon and get. 984 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: It thank, You. 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Hewett joined By Bethany. 1023 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,919 Speaker 1: Mandel she is the founder of the Mom wars dot 1024 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: substack dot Com she also sent me To Lahav harkov last. 1025 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: Week had a good time With. LHAV i hope you heard, That. 1026 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: BETHANY i did. 1027 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 12: Not it didn't make its way to. ME i heard 1028 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 12: that it, happened BUT i did not read and. 1029 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,720 Speaker 1: Listen, well thank you for the, recommendation Beth. Andy, FIRST 1030 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: i was listening to The commentary podcast Today i'm with your. 1031 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: Husband seth is a, member and he said that you're 1032 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: all very psyched about The Super mario movie when it comes, 1033 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: out but nothing. Else is that an accurate representation in 1034 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: The mandel. 1035 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 12: Household so you are the second person to quote the 1036 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 12: commentary magazine podcast me in the last fifteen, minutes AND 1037 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 12: i have not listened to it. YET i do not 1038 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 12: include myself in The mandel hype Over Super, mario but, 1039 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 12: YES i think they are all pretty. 1040 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: Hyped. Well the REASON i bring it up is Because 1041 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: John podhortz laid out some statistics on the decline in 1042 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: movie going from two thousand to twenty twenty to, today 1043 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: and it's a precipitous. Decline Fetching Missus shutt AND i 1044 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: used to do two movies a, week even when we had. 1045 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: Kids we were two movies a. Week, people one hundred 1046 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: is a. Year how many movies a year do you? 1047 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,919 Speaker 5: SEE i see? 1048 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 12: Zero unless yeah zero seth usually, once maybe. Twice but 1049 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 12: he's bringing all six kids to this next, one and that's. 1050 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 7: Going to be over a hundred. 1051 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: Bucks oh, Yes, Oh i've taken my grandkids to see 1052 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: Terrible disney movies and it is one hundred. Bucks but 1053 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: the point, being are you going because not going because 1054 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: of cost or not going because of? Quality nothing there 1055 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: that interests. 1056 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 12: You SO i am a terrible millennial AND i don't 1057 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 12: really want to sit through two and a half hours 1058 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 12: WHERE i can't check my. Phone If i'm just being, 1059 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 12: HONEST i lose. 1060 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: Attention you're a Jen. Alpha all, right here's A i'm 1061 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: going to switch you to the war. Now Ezra, klein 1062 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: who was the Surfing santa in the seventh grade musical 1063 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: at my daughter's. School So i've Always i've Known ezra, 1064 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: forever But i've known him as a, kid so it's 1065 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: hard for me to take him, seriously even though he's 1066 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 1: done very well for. Himself here's the opening Of ezra's 1067 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: podcast For The New York. Times. 1068 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 9: TODAY i found myself struggling to describe the War President 1069 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 9: trumps chosen to enter into With, iran the strange lightness 1070 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 9: with which he seems to have chosen. 1071 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 2: This stay, sheltered don't leave your. Home it's very dangerous. 1072 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 2: Outside bombs will be dropping. 1073 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 9: EVERYWHERE i would say the war's spiraling out of, control 1074 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 9: but there's never a real pretense in that it was under. 1075 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 9: CONTROL i find it hard to Say trump's plan for 1076 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 9: the war'st failing because it is not clear there was any. 1077 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 3: PLAN i don't like to. 1078 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: Have bethany it's, defeatist, demoralizing clop trap and as it 1079 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: was a smart, GUY i. 1080 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 12: Record that from a bomb. 1081 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 3: SHELTER i don't. 1082 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: Know it's absolutely, absurd but there. Is And Noah rothman 1083 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: gets very exercised about the defeatism demoralization campaign underway and elite, 1084 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: media and it doesn't affect the fact that we're winning, 1085 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: decisively and that's the. Story we are Crushing. Iran why 1086 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: doesn't the left want to say that. 1087 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 12: They don't want to give In trump the W but, 1088 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 12: conversely why Is President trump not out there doing victory laps, left, 1089 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 12: right up and. Down he's bothered By President trump's. TONE 1090 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 12: i want to hear more of. IT i want to 1091 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 12: see The buroll footage of THE b two bomber flying, 1092 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 12: over AND i want to see, explosions AND i want 1093 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 12: to see we killed so and so, today we killed 1094 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 12: so and so last. Week just a reminder on day, 1095 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 12: one we killed The. Iatola the idea that there's no 1096 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 12: plan and that we've achieved nothing is. Ludicrous on its, 1097 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 12: face it is, ludicrous but it's everywhere on the, left 1098 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 12: and it marks the first time in my. 1099 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: Life i'm seventy years. Old i've been through a lot of, 1100 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: wars a lot of, combat some of them, short some 1101 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: of them. Long this is the most decisive opening of any, 1102 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 1: conflict Including Desert, one where it was over in one hundred. 1103 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: Hours this doesn't have any casualties on the. Ground it 1104 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: has seven to twelve Dead, americans which is. Tragic no 1105 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: casualties from ground trips as happened In Desert. One So 1106 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: i'm just thinking to, myself these people don't know history 1107 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: or they simply don't care about, Facts AND i think 1108 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: it's probably. 1109 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 12: BOTH i think it's, both BUT i think that they're 1110 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 12: actively rooting against The United states victory Because america winning 1111 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 12: Is President trump, winning and it reminds me of The 1112 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 12: Rush limbaugh quote from When Barack obama became president and he, 1113 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 12: Said i'd love nothing more than for him to succeed 1114 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 12: because his success Is america's. Success that's what they should be, 1115 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 12: saying and that's what they should be signaling to the, 1116 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 12: world is that they're still rooting For. America they're very clearly. 1117 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: Not they're clearly. Not, now if you were a leftist 1118 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: and you wanted to be, responsible you might say something, 1119 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: like there's no denying that The american military is, awesome 1120 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: that The iranians are only to get Off yosemite sam 1121 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: shooting in every, direction hitting all of our. Allies they've 1122 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: killed a couple of dozen people with thousands of missile and. 1123 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Drones they're not very good at their command structure, shattered 1124 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: but they're not dead yet and they might hang. On 1125 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: so we should either keep it, up double it, up 1126 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 1: or set terms for which are reasonable for them to. 1127 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Concede but this idea that we're not winning and there 1128 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: was no? Plan did they not know anybody in The, 1129 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: pentagon anyone in the. Military do you not know how 1130 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: planned this? 1131 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 2: Is this? 1132 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Is this is fourteen pages of. 1133 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 12: Targets can you imagine what these people would have been 1134 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 12: like in nineteen forty. Two, oh like the stamina that 1135 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 12: they don't make it a. 1136 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Month they'd be Learning. Japanese they really surrender, monkeys we 1137 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: would have called. Them AND i think it is a 1138 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 1: disease AND i don't know how the country recovers from. 1139 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: IT i also, think by the, way if it was 1140 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: a democratic, president they'd be all for, it and they 1141 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: would be saying they would be reporting the. Truth but 1142 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: ezra is the most responsible of the least. Responsible does 1143 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: that make? 1144 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 12: Sense, yes absolutely, Does AND i agree with. You but 1145 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 12: this is that we're on the sixth anniversary OF covid right, 1146 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 12: now when we're finally delving into now it can be 1147 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 12: said territory with, like oh maybe school closures were, Bad 1148 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 12: oh maybe cloth masks were. Stupid we're going to get 1149 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 12: there with this war in six, years. 1150 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: You mean six years from, now we will recognize. It it 1151 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: was a strategic and tactical. Success in, fact If cuba, 1152 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Falls venezuela, falls And iran is, defanged do you Think 1153 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 1: trump goes down among the greatest wartime? Presidents how does he? 1154 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 12: Not how does he? Not, meanwhile In, venezuela they raised 1155 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 12: The american flag at The American embassy. 1156 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Yesterday but that's, symbolic that's. Great you know they HAVEN'T 1157 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: i know they're trying very hard to look not look 1158 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: At cuba In. Venezuela they're trying not hard not to 1159 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: look at How china has lost decisively in the last two. 1160 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: Weeks But beth And, MANDEL i know you will be 1161 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 1: covering it in The momwords dot substack dot. COM i 1162 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: do want to thank you for love Of. Harkov that 1163 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: was a great interview and we'll talk again next. Week Sahan, 1164 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 1: mandel thank. 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