WEBVTT - What's next with Venezuela? 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.280 Hillsdale at Hillsdale dot edu or I encourage you to 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.800 take advantage of the many free online courses there, and 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.119 of course I'll listen to the Hillsdale dialogues, all of 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.560 them at Hugh for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:20.040 iTunes and Hillsdale. Good Morning, Glory and evening Graist America. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.360 On this Tuesday. I'm Hugh Hewittt and Really Factor Studio Wes. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.200 Thank you for joining me. Got a lot coming up 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.319 today Byron York Brett Baar. I'll be talking with Lilas later, 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.880 but I begin with Jim Garretty, senior editor at Nash Review, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.199 host of the three Martini podcasts, frequent contribute to the 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:40.080 Editors podcast at National Review, Washington Post columnist, and Jets fan. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.120 And the Jets were worse than the Browns. I just 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.280 want that on the record there, Jim, you guys stunk 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.000 worse than Cleveland did. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.839 Hey when we played each other? Who wants you? 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.200 Well, that's beside the point. It's about the season. Jim, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.920 you're drafting ahead of us, and I gather you're drafting 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:57.840 another quarterback. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.480 Yeah, all depends on whether war comes out from Oregon. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:03.040 Uh. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.039 He's the only one who said, assuming the Raiders take 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.080 Mendoza right now, if you look at the history of 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:12.000 the Raiders, they have this history of making really unorthodox picks. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.320 If they did pick them, he'd be there. I believe 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.120 their first quarterback they took that early. Since JaMarcus Russell 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:19.920 trivia question, everybody who's. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:25.760 Like, nobody wants to remember that nobody, no Raiders fan 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.600 wants to remember mister Russell. But I do think the 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.920 Jets will take a QB. Browns are at six, They'll 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:32.880 take a wide receiver and then an ol with the 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.640 Jags pick, we're gonna we're me in the playoffs next year, Jim, 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:36.600 I don't know about the Jets. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.080 So you're going to hire a coach who's going to 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.920 have to accept shdor Sanders. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:42.640 Is that the thinking? 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:43.120 You know? 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:48.720 You welcome to scenic, Sonny, lovely Cleveland, where you will 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.280 not get the choice of what quarterback you want with 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.760 the guy who you know. But I an honest, curious question, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.280 and I welcome to j Hewitt Sports talk radio. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:00.559 But are they going to interview Dion? 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.400 Do you think no I will let me let me 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.360 make a dendant that they might because of the Rooney rule, 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.000 but they would not hire him. It would not be 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:12.640 good for shud Or it would not be good. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.000 Which is exactly why they're going to hire and Gym take. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.440 It to the banks. Not happening. So let's get to 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.920 the serious stuff. Operation Apps out resolve your reaction, Jim. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:29.440 Garritty military operation was phenomenal and and really on par 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.359 with bin Laden Operation. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:38.480 Hugo. You know, the entire regime in Venezuela is terrible. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.040 I don't I have no patience for any of those 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.799 idiots in the streets marching free our president. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:45.880 He's not a president, he's a dictator. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.800 He's got a record of human rights abuses that are 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.280 longer than a CBS receipt. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.880 You know, I'm not one hundred percent sure. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.840 I love the idea of leaving the vice president in charge. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:01.040 She has certainly sounded defiant. Now it's possible she's taking 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.360 one stance in public and being more cooperative. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:04.520 Behind the scenes. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.160 Trump was saying that she was being very gracious in 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:13.320 her call with Rubio on Saturday morning. I look, you know, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:19.480 getting the Venezuelan regime to stop cooperating with Iran and 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.040 Russia and China is a high priority. I noticed those 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.919 were the three ambassadors she embraced during her swearing in ceremony. Again, 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.720 maybe this is all for public consumption. Maybe behind the 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.160 scenes are going to be a lot more cooperative. If 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.359 we end up with her still running the country a 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:38.200 year from now, I will feel like this astounding military 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.360 operation has been wasted, because I'd really like to see 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.560 the Venezuelan people get to choose their own leaders one. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:44.040 Of these days. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.720 Now, Jim, I don't know if you get news items 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.840 from John Ellis. I read it first thing every morning, 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.240 and he had an item this morning from Ava Gollinger, 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.720 an immigration lawyer wired into Venezuela, about the fact that 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:02.240 what we see on television not what's going on inside 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.920 of Venezuela, and that the vice president and her brother 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.200 have rested control away from the Chavistas, and though they 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.720 might be doing all that public stuff for the benefit 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.520 of that Chavizas, they're actually working with the agency in 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.479 the United States government very closely to begin what will 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:21.320 be a step by step transition back to a normal country. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.880 If we won't know, and I don't think we can 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.000 take that to the bank for a year at least, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.800 maybe two. But if that happened, will it be an 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:30.040 unqualified success? 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.040 If that happened, yes, I would love to see that happen. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.520 Color me a bit more skeptical. We're talking about a 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:43.360 woman who is a hardcore socialist, down the line, loyalist, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:48.039 very plugged in with Cuban intelligence. As you know, she 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.120 used to be head of the intelligence agency and it 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:55.640 was responsible for all kinds of torture, extra didicital executions, use. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.119 Of rape as a weapon. Like this is a bad, 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.680 bad woman. Now, maybe she's turned over a new leaf. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.359 And maybe she does not want to wake up to 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.160 find a whole bunch of US special operators at the 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:07.680 foot of her bed in the middle of the night, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.680 ready to give her a free flight to a Brooklyn cell. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.240 If that comes the case, great. I don't think we're 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.560 seeing this at her public stands so far. Now, maybe 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.440 this is again, maybe this is all behind the scenes. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.479 But I just don't trust this woman, and now I don't. 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.000 I'm surprised to see folks like Rubio and the rest 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.119 of the administration willing to put their chips on her, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.000 at least for the foreseeable future. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.400 The only analogy I can hope is happening, and we 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.400 don't know that it's happening. I don't know that it's happening. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.520 I don't have the clearances. Nobody does. Is it not 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.080 in the game? Is what happened in Libya after George W. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.880 Bush invader Iraq in two thousand and three. Kadafi, who 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.159 had a rather advanced WMD program, including the beginnings of 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.400 a nuclear program and a lot of WMD in the 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:57.160 bio and chemical category. He said, Nomas threw open his kimono. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.320 The United States went in there very quietly, took all 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.040 of the weapons of mass destruction out and destroyed them, 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.799 and nobody knew a thing. And this is years before 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.960 he was toppled by Obama. I'm just hoping the same 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.560 thing happens, and I don't think it's really unreasonable to 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:12.919 think that might be happening. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.839 I again, I hope you're right, and I do remember. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.080 Right around that time, Hugh Kadaffi did an interview I 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.200 believe with Joe Klein, who I believe is with Time 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.440 that magazine at the time, and as these ending the interview, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.520 Kadaffi says to Klein something along the lines are like, 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:30.080 please tell Bush. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.720 Not to bomb me. I am not sodom husseying. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.840 I will you know, and look if this can quote 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.120 unquote scare her straight and the you know, now acting 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:44.040 president of Venezuela, Rodriguez is going to have a different 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.160 attitude and less houseful to the United States. Fine, and 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.280 I understand that they're all over the Middle East there 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.760 are regimes that are much more anti American in their 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.680 public rhetoric than they are in their private rhetoric their 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.520 private actions. They actually want to work with the US 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.920 because there as everybod is a afraid of his lowless 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:01.840 radicals as we are. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.440 Ye know, if that's what's going to happen, great. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.080 I still, however, believe that like one, this regime is 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.960 responsible for just an abominable long line of crimes, and 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.920 I'd like to see somebody get held accountable for this. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.640 And then secondly, I would like to see the Venezuelan 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:16.680 people get back into the air. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.640 Like they had an election in twenty twenty four. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.120 They picked somebody else and the regime said, never mind, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.600 we're going to use the We're going to use force 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:24.720 to strike this down. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:30.480 It's been twenty years of dictatorial rule since Chavez took over, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.480 and it will be welcome if they change. But Jim, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.120 I want to let our new affiliates. We have two 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.600 new affiliates this week, News Radio of Pensacola, Florida, ninety 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.960 two point three w n RP in Pensacola and Triple 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.680 Talk one on two point three one on three point 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:49.520 three and twelve seventy am WMKT in Padofski, Michigan. Way 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.320 up north, so way up north, way down south. Would 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.400 you tell him how to get the Morning Joelt if 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:55.720 they want to get you every day? 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.240 Sure, National Review dot Com. Right on the left side 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.320 of the screen we have a menu. Drop down that 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.240 menu to subscriptions. The Morning Jolt is free. 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But the Morning Jolt, the newsletter I 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.800 write every day, it's fifteen hundred two thousand words walking 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.720 you through the day's headlines, probably almost as good as 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.040 John Ellis's news items. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.400 So I'm leading you up to my question for everyone 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.240 over the next two weeks. Is the United States better 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:49.160 off today and next week than it was a year ago? Yeah? 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.600 Yeah, generally it's a mixed bag. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.400 I think if you're you know, listeners are looking at 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.040 their four oh one k statements at the end of 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.120 the year, they're probably feeling pretty darn good about that. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.640 I think the you know, had a rough year, Hugh. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.440 The Iranian nuclear program, Yeah, it's a bigger rebuilding year 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.600 for them than the Jets and the Browns. They've loss 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.880 of personnel. Just the whole thing fell apart, literally as 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.040 well as metaphorically. So no, there are you know, I'm 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.079 a little frustrated with the administration's position regarding Ukraine. 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.480 I think we're not quite as tough on China as 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:23.240 I'd like it to be. 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.640 I understand why people don't feel like the golden age 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.160 has begun and the prices has gone down. Gas price 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.760 has been very reasonable come down a bit since winter began, so. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.680 Generally it's good. No president's going to have everything going terrific. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.280 I would prefer the president would not insist the affordability 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.439 as a hoax. I think people are still genuinely squeezed 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.439 like that. I don't like the tariffs, but unbalanced things 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.560 are better. And I think that if Harris had been 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.760 president and the illustrious Tim Walls had been our vice president, no, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.280 we would not feel like things are getting better. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.120 There, Jim, we hardly knew. Ye we got thirty seconds. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:09:59.760 Sha think we don't well enough? 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.280 How sad are you that Tim Wallas is out of 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:02.640 the game? 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.200 So okay? So I went back and I checked. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.120 The very first thing I wrote about Tim Walls was 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.120 July twenty ninth, twenty twenty four, and I said that 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.000 there was no way that Kamala Harris was going to 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.120 pick this guy because he had so much baggage, because 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.000 the entire state government of Minnesota had been looted in 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:24.400 one fraud scandal after another. Now it's not that nobody 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.679 else wrote about this during the twenty twenty four presidential campaign. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.760 CNN did do one good. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.319 Story on this in like you know, late September early October. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.439 Goodbye and large. You didn't hear very much about. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.240 It unless you were a power Line blog reader. All 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.760 praise like wwick and said, all honor to Jefferson, All 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.439 honor to power Line in Jim Garretty because they were 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.800 on the Walls scandal before anyone else. Jim, thank you. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.000 Follow him on next as well, Jim Garritty come back 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.679 for a segment to him today as you do it 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:56.400 show Welcome Back in America, You do it. I would 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:00.360 like to introduce our next guest, very specifically to our 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.280 two new affiliates, our news talk affiliate news Radio in 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.360 Pensacola at the Naval Aviation Air Community, so they will 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.760 probably know of him at ninety two point three w 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.840 NRP and then Triple Talk one oh two point three 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.480 one oh three point three twelve seventy AM in the 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.520 northern part of Michigan, charlet Boy and Potowsky. You may 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.640 not know of the four Horsemen of the podcast Apocalypse, 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.920 otherwise known as the Fellas of the Ruthless Podcast, but 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.280 one of them, the Buckey, is John Ashbrook, and he 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:38.160 joins us now from the Ruthless Podcast. Mister Ashbrook, I 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.520 hope you were watching football in CINCINNTI this weekend when 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.640 the Browns laid another one in Miles Garrett put the 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.800 record on the wall against Joe Burrow. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.839 I watched it, Buddy, I watched it from start to finish, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.079 and I'd like to congratulate you on the great win 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.160 and what a season for Miles Garrett. I mean, that 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.839 guy's a special talent and the Browns are sure lucky 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.920 to have him. But I wanted to ask you what 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.280 you think is going to happen with this Kevin Stefanski job. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.160 I mean, do you have any eyes on any coaches 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:07.880 in particular? 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.920 I hope they just promote the defensive coordinator, Jim Schwartz 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.720 and then keep Tommy Ree says the offensive coordinator. But 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.560 that would be too smart. So the Browns will probably 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.600 go hire Mike McCarthy or some other person to change 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:27.080 the system on Shador Sanders and then blow the draft that. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.440 I don't know what's going to happen in Bengals Land. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.600 Burrow's is back, but he's only good for like four 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:32.360 games a year. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:36.360 Right, Yeah, hopefully he hopefully plays all year next year. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.040 I mean, it just has been a rough go for 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.200 him from an injury standpoint, But the announce they're going 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.800 to keep the coaching staff, They're going to keep what 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.679 sort of front office they have in place. Hopefully they 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.319 add some more scouts. Got to turn it up next 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.120 year because we can't miss the playoffs another year in 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.120 a row during Burrow's prime. I mean, it's been really disappointing. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.600 I would love to say that the same thing about Miles. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.320 If we could take your offense and defense and put 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.680 them together, we could go to the playoffs together. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:05.800 John, you win the super Bowl. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.240 It would be amazing. It would be actually amazing. We 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.600 need your offensive line as well. Let me talk a 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.520 little bit to the new audience, especially about the fact 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.559 you were pummeled pretty badly at the beginning of the 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.720 year by your colleagues on the Ruthless podcast over Skyline Chili, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.240 and I want you to know that I am from 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:30.800 Ohio and I agree with them. It's horrible stuff. Nobody 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.920 likes it outside of Cincinnati. You know that, don't you. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:35.200 It's horrible stuff. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.640 I do, but I don't care because I love it. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.640 If I had to choice for my last meal on Earth, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.720 I would choose that. I mean, I absolutely love it 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.560 like most people from Cincinnati, but anybody from out of town. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.880 It's a real love hate thing. It's not something that 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.320 everybody loves. Although I do have friends from northern Michigan, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.520 and I'm glad, glad to hear they're on the air 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.800 right now. Beautiful part of the country. Maybe less so 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.160 in the winter, but certainly in the summer. I do 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.000 have some friends from northern Michigan who love it. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.640 So you must have some revo aviation pals down in Pensacola, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.720 don't you. That's where all the fighter pilots go. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.200 Without a doubt, I mean, that's a place to be. 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.200 I mean, I think every kid grows up dreaming that 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.760 one day they can move down to Pensacola and fly jets. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.960 You know, it didn't work out for me or most 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.640 of my buddies, but what a great part of the country. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.480 Well, you know, I got a son in law who 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.080 is a fighter pilot, though he is now driving ships, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.080 not flying Fa teens anymore. But I asked him he 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.960 happened to be he's not deployed right now. Happened to 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.920 see him. How impressive was that operation over the week? 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.800 And he said, man, that was something are you a 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.800 little bit jealous? And there are a few of the 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.760 guys from his class who are down there on different ships, 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.760 and he said, yeah, I got to admit I am. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.760 People want to be the guys who do this, want 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.880 to be in that sort of a thing. And what 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.640 are remarkable. Let's just for a moment your comment on 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:53.600 what they pulled off. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.080 Yeah, it was incredible and you can easily understand why 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.920 guys would want to be a part of that, because 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.840 everybody wants to be a part of a team that 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.640 knows how to execute. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.240 And wins when they do. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.840 And I mean they had every little detail figured out 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.440 for that operation, right down to something that I know 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.440 is near and dear to Dwayne Patterson's heart, the sound. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.600 I mean, this is a guy who understands audio, so 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:20.040 I know he appreciates this aspect of the mission. Speak 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.320 General Lisimo, my favorite guy on the planet. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:28.120 The show, Well, they flew. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.880 They flew these jets so low over Caracas that the 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.440 sound was deafening and nobody could hear the helicopters coming 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.040 in from underneath. I mean, it was one of the 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:41.200 most brilliant things that most other people would never even 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.360 think of. But they thought of every last detail right 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.200 down to that. And you got to think that the Chinese, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.200 you gotta think that the Russians, you gotta think the 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.440 Iranians look at a mission like that and the way 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.680 that the US was able to pull that off, and 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.760 they're like, well, we could never do anything like that. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.000 And what a contrast between the way that Joe Biden 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.200 and handled himself with Afghanistan and everything else in the 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:07.080 way that President Trump is handling things, letting the military work. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.120 You got a lot of really smart people, they know 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:10.960 what to do. You let them go out and you 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:11.560 let them win. 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.480 Now, John, I know you've been following Legacy media's reaction 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.640 to this, and I know that they are very upset 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.520 with the president. Have you noticed that they've lost their 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.120 mind over the fact that we have once again done 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.640 something that Joe Biden and Barack Obama never dared do, 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.680 much less accomplished. They really have lost their mind that 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:31.400 this was done. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.880 They have, and it doesn't make any sense to me. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.040 I mean, why can't they just say, yeah, we all 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.920 said Maduro needed to go, and now he's gone. Why 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.400 can't they just say, oh, that's great and move on 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.560 to something else. I mean, for the life of me, 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.880 I don't understand why they're trying to take the opposite 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:54.200 position from a very successful mission by our own military. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.080 These are friends and neighbors. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:55.800 You know. 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:57.840 These are guys who put their life on the line 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.520 to protect us, and they executed flawlessly, and this is 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:03.600 the second time. 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.399 They They don't be an attack. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.399 The media went on the offensive against Trump for some reason. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.120 You can't even understand. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:11.560 You know. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.560 We had Bill Barr on our show, The Ruthless Podcast 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.760 right before Christmas, and he of course worked for President Trump, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.040 but he worked for George hw Bush back in the 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.840 day and talked about the parallels between their operation in 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.880 Panama to remove Manuel Noriega in the operation of Venezuela 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.080 to remove Nicholas Maduro. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.320 Very interesting conversation. Something I know. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.280 Would be near and dear to your heart is a 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:42.960 legal mind. You know yourself. It was very sharp and 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.280 I can't tell you how you know it just there's 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.520 a new renewed sense of pride in like, hey, we're 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.800 the greatest country in the world, and we have the 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.800 best people, and when they execute, they win, and you 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.040 just have to let them do it. I don't understand 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.760 the second guessing from the mainstream media, but they'll never stop. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.960 Yeah, there's a Lulu Navarro over at the New York 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.000 Times who has posted that the secret police are out 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.200 in the streets, and gangs are out in the streets 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.360 and journalists are being arrested. And I think to myself 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.600 that she's based this on phone calls with people she 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.360 knows in Venezuela. They cannot help themselves. But the headline 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.600 in the Wall Street Journal John Maduro's capture deals heavy 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:28.120 blow to Cuba's vaunted intelligence service. You think, so that's 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.400 like the heavy blow that the Browns got this year, 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.239 not making that they're out of the game. They're not. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.760 Nobody wants Cuban intelligence service anymore. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:37.920 Well, you love to see it. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.160 And I mean, how about the fact that there were 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.240 thirty two Cubans around Maduro. I mean, I mean, I 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.160 know that you follow these things closer than I do. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.840 I didn't expect them to walk in and find thirty 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.240 two Cubans standing between them the in. 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.240 The goal line, but they did. 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.640 And it sort of gives you a little bit more 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.280 pause because Cuba is so close to us. I mean, 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.160 it's just a boat ride away from Key West and 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.360 the thought that maybe there's a chance, you know, there's 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.840 some speculation about well maybe Cuba is next. I certainly 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.840 hope so, because that would be a wonderful place to 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:13.639 visit something. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.600 The best they had and Delta Force went through them 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.280 like Miles Garrett through the Bengals line. John Ashbrook, it 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.679 is always good to see you. Follow him on at 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:28.360 John Ashbrook, listen to the Rootless Five, gast like and subscribe. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.040 See the fellows as well, all for them in a 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.960