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Speaker 1: On this Tuesday. I'm Hugh Hewittt and Really Factor Studio Wes.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Got a lot coming up
Speaker 1: today Byron York Brett Baar. I'll be talking with Lilas later,
Speaker 1: but I begin with Jim Garretty, senior editor at Nash Review,
Speaker 1: host of the three Martini podcasts, frequent contribute to the
Speaker 1: Editors podcast at National Review, Washington Post columnist, and Jets fan.
Speaker 1: And the Jets were worse than the Browns. I just
Speaker 1: want that on the record there, Jim, you guys stunk
Speaker 1: worse than Cleveland did.
Speaker 2: Hey when we played each other? Who wants you?
Speaker 1: Well, that's beside the point. It's about the season. Jim,
Speaker 1: you're drafting ahead of us, and I gather you're drafting
Speaker 1: another quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all depends on whether war comes out from Oregon.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He's the only one who said, assuming the Raiders take
Speaker 3: Mendoza right now, if you look at the history of
Speaker 3: the Raiders, they have this history of making really unorthodox picks.
Speaker 3: If they did pick them, he'd be there. I believe
Speaker 3: their first quarterback they took that early. Since JaMarcus Russell
Speaker 3: trivia question, everybody who's.
Speaker 1: Like, nobody wants to remember that nobody, no Raiders fan
Speaker 1: wants to remember mister Russell. But I do think the
Speaker 1: Jets will take a QB. Browns are at six, They'll
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver and then an ol with the
Speaker 1: Jags pick, we're gonna we're me in the playoffs next year, Jim,
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Jets.
Speaker 3: So you're going to hire a coach who's going to
Speaker 3: have to accept shdor Sanders.
Speaker 2: Is that the thinking?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: You welcome to scenic, Sonny, lovely Cleveland, where you will
Speaker 3: not get the choice of what quarterback you want with
Speaker 3: the guy who you know. But I an honest, curious question,
Speaker 3: and I welcome to j Hewitt Sports talk radio.
Speaker 2: But are they going to interview Dion?
Speaker 1: Do you think no I will let me let me
Speaker 1: make a dendant that they might because of the Rooney rule,
Speaker 1: but they would not hire him. It would not be
Speaker 1: good for shud Or it would not be good.
Speaker 2: Which is exactly why they're going to hire and Gym take.
Speaker 1: It to the banks. Not happening. So let's get to
Speaker 1: the serious stuff. Operation Apps out resolve your reaction, Jim.
Speaker 3: Garritty military operation was phenomenal and and really on par
Speaker 3: with bin Laden Operation.
Speaker 2: Hugo. You know, the entire regime in Venezuela is terrible.
Speaker 3: I don't I have no patience for any of those
Speaker 3: idiots in the streets marching free our president.
Speaker 2: He's not a president, he's a dictator.
Speaker 3: He's got a record of human rights abuses that are
Speaker 3: longer than a CBS receipt.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 3: I love the idea of leaving the vice president in charge.
Speaker 3: She has certainly sounded defiant. Now it's possible she's taking
Speaker 3: one stance in public and being more cooperative.
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: Trump was saying that she was being very gracious in
Speaker 3: her call with Rubio on Saturday morning. I look, you know,
Speaker 3: getting the Venezuelan regime to stop cooperating with Iran and
Speaker 3: Russia and China is a high priority. I noticed those
Speaker 3: were the three ambassadors she embraced during her swearing in ceremony. Again,
Speaker 3: maybe this is all for public consumption. Maybe behind the
Speaker 3: scenes are going to be a lot more cooperative. If
Speaker 3: we end up with her still running the country a
Speaker 3: year from now, I will feel like this astounding military
Speaker 3: operation has been wasted, because I'd really like to see
Speaker 3: the Venezuelan people get to choose their own leaders one.
Speaker 2: Of these days.
Speaker 1: Now, Jim, I don't know if you get news items
Speaker 1: from John Ellis. I read it first thing every morning,
Speaker 1: and he had an item this morning from Ava Gollinger,
Speaker 1: an immigration lawyer wired into Venezuela, about the fact that
Speaker 1: what we see on television not what's going on inside
Speaker 1: of Venezuela, and that the vice president and her brother
Speaker 1: have rested control away from the Chavistas, and though they
Speaker 1: might be doing all that public stuff for the benefit
Speaker 1: of that Chavizas, they're actually working with the agency in
Speaker 1: the United States government very closely to begin what will
Speaker 1: be a step by step transition back to a normal country.
Speaker 1: If we won't know, and I don't think we can
Speaker 1: take that to the bank for a year at least,
Speaker 1: maybe two. But if that happened, will it be an
Speaker 1: unqualified success?
Speaker 3: If that happened, yes, I would love to see that happen.
Speaker 3: Color me a bit more skeptical. We're talking about a
Speaker 3: woman who is a hardcore socialist, down the line, loyalist,
Speaker 3: very plugged in with Cuban intelligence. As you know, she
Speaker 3: used to be head of the intelligence agency and it
Speaker 3: was responsible for all kinds of torture, extra didicital executions, use.
Speaker 2: Of rape as a weapon. Like this is a bad,
Speaker 2: bad woman. Now, maybe she's turned over a new leaf.
Speaker 3: And maybe she does not want to wake up to
Speaker 3: find a whole bunch of US special operators at the
Speaker 3: foot of her bed in the middle of the night,
Speaker 3: ready to give her a free flight to a Brooklyn cell.
Speaker 3: If that comes the case, great. I don't think we're
Speaker 3: seeing this at her public stands so far. Now, maybe
Speaker 3: this is again, maybe this is all behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: But I just don't trust this woman, and now I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised to see folks like Rubio and the rest
Speaker 3: of the administration willing to put their chips on her,
Speaker 3: at least for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: The only analogy I can hope is happening, and we
Speaker 1: don't know that it's happening. I don't know that it's happening.
Speaker 1: I don't have the clearances. Nobody does. Is it not
Speaker 1: in the game? Is what happened in Libya after George W.
Speaker 1: Bush invader Iraq in two thousand and three. Kadafi, who
Speaker 1: had a rather advanced WMD program, including the beginnings of
Speaker 1: a nuclear program and a lot of WMD in the
Speaker 1: bio and chemical category. He said, Nomas threw open his kimono.
Speaker 1: The United States went in there very quietly, took all
Speaker 1: of the weapons of mass destruction out and destroyed them,
Speaker 1: and nobody knew a thing. And this is years before
Speaker 1: he was toppled by Obama. I'm just hoping the same
Speaker 1: thing happens, and I don't think it's really unreasonable to
Speaker 1: think that might be happening.
Speaker 3: I again, I hope you're right, and I do remember.
Speaker 3: Right around that time, Hugh Kadaffi did an interview I
Speaker 3: believe with Joe Klein, who I believe is with Time
Speaker 3: that magazine at the time, and as these ending the interview,
Speaker 3: Kadaffi says to Klein something along the lines are like,
Speaker 3: please tell Bush.
Speaker 2: Not to bomb me. I am not sodom husseying.
Speaker 3: I will you know, and look if this can quote
Speaker 3: unquote scare her straight and the you know, now acting
Speaker 3: president of Venezuela, Rodriguez is going to have a different
Speaker 3: attitude and less houseful to the United States. Fine, and
Speaker 3: I understand that they're all over the Middle East there
Speaker 3: are regimes that are much more anti American in their
Speaker 3: public rhetoric than they are in their private rhetoric their
Speaker 3: private actions. They actually want to work with the US
Speaker 3: because there as everybod is a afraid of his lowless
Speaker 3: radicals as we are.
Speaker 2: Ye know, if that's what's going to happen, great.
Speaker 3: I still, however, believe that like one, this regime is
Speaker 3: responsible for just an abominable long line of crimes, and
Speaker 3: I'd like to see somebody get held accountable for this.
Speaker 3: And then secondly, I would like to see the Venezuelan
Speaker 3: people get back into the air.
Speaker 2: Like they had an election in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: They picked somebody else and the regime said, never mind,
Speaker 3: we're going to use the We're going to use force
Speaker 3: to strike this down.
Speaker 1: It's been twenty years of dictatorial rule since Chavez took over,
Speaker 1: and it will be welcome if they change. But Jim,
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Speaker 1: So I'm leading you up to my question for everyone
Speaker 1: over the next two weeks. Is the United States better
Speaker 1: off today and next week than it was a year ago? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, generally it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 3: I think if you're you know, listeners are looking at
Speaker 3: their four oh one k statements at the end of
Speaker 3: the year, they're probably feeling pretty darn good about that.
Speaker 3: I think the you know, had a rough year, Hugh.
Speaker 3: The Iranian nuclear program, Yeah, it's a bigger rebuilding year
Speaker 3: for them than the Jets and the Browns. They've loss
Speaker 3: of personnel. Just the whole thing fell apart, literally as
Speaker 3: well as metaphorically. So no, there are you know, I'm
Speaker 3: a little frustrated with the administration's position regarding Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I think we're not quite as tough on China as
Speaker 2: I'd like it to be.
Speaker 3: I understand why people don't feel like the golden age
Speaker 3: has begun and the prices has gone down. Gas price
Speaker 3: has been very reasonable come down a bit since winter began, so.
Speaker 2: Generally it's good. No president's going to have everything going terrific.
Speaker 3: I would prefer the president would not insist the affordability
Speaker 3: as a hoax. I think people are still genuinely squeezed
Speaker 3: like that. I don't like the tariffs, but unbalanced things
Speaker 3: are better. And I think that if Harris had been
Speaker 3: president and the illustrious Tim Walls had been our vice president, no,
Speaker 3: we would not feel like things are getting better.
Speaker 1: There, Jim, we hardly knew. Ye we got thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: Sha think we don't well enough?
Speaker 1: How sad are you that Tim Wallas is out of
Speaker 1: the game?
Speaker 2: So okay? So I went back and I checked.
Speaker 3: The very first thing I wrote about Tim Walls was
Speaker 3: July twenty ninth, twenty twenty four, and I said that
Speaker 3: there was no way that Kamala Harris was going to
Speaker 3: pick this guy because he had so much baggage, because
Speaker 3: the entire state government of Minnesota had been looted in
Speaker 3: one fraud scandal after another. Now it's not that nobody
Speaker 3: else wrote about this during the twenty twenty four presidential campaign.
Speaker 2: CNN did do one good.
Speaker 3: Story on this in like you know, late September early October.
Speaker 2: Goodbye and large. You didn't hear very much about.
Speaker 1: It unless you were a power Line blog reader. All
Speaker 1: praise like wwick and said, all honor to Jefferson, All
Speaker 1: honor to power Line in Jim Garretty because they were
Speaker 1: on the Walls scandal before anyone else. Jim, thank you.
Speaker 1: Follow him on next as well, Jim Garritty come back
Speaker 1: for a segment to him today as you do it
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Speaker 1: northern part of Michigan, charlet Boy and Potowsky. You may
Speaker 1: not know of the four Horsemen of the podcast Apocalypse,
Speaker 1: otherwise known as the Fellas of the Ruthless Podcast, but
Speaker 1: one of them, the Buckey, is John Ashbrook, and he
Speaker 1: joins us now from the Ruthless Podcast. Mister Ashbrook, I
Speaker 1: hope you were watching football in CINCINNTI this weekend when
Speaker 1: the Browns laid another one in Miles Garrett put the
Speaker 1: record on the wall against Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5: I watched it, Buddy, I watched it from start to finish,
Speaker 5: and I'd like to congratulate you on the great win
Speaker 5: and what a season for Miles Garrett. I mean, that
Speaker 5: guy's a special talent and the Browns are sure lucky
Speaker 5: to have him. But I wanted to ask you what
Speaker 5: you think is going to happen with this Kevin Stefanski job.
Speaker 5: I mean, do you have any eyes on any coaches
Speaker 5: in particular?
Speaker 1: I hope they just promote the defensive coordinator, Jim Schwartz
Speaker 1: and then keep Tommy Ree says the offensive coordinator. But
Speaker 1: that would be too smart. So the Browns will probably
Speaker 1: go hire Mike McCarthy or some other person to change
Speaker 1: the system on Shador Sanders and then blow the draft that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen in Bengals Land.
Speaker 1: Burrow's is back, but he's only good for like four
Speaker 1: games a year.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, hopefully he hopefully plays all year next year.
Speaker 5: I mean, it just has been a rough go for
Speaker 5: him from an injury standpoint, But the announce they're going
Speaker 5: to keep the coaching staff, They're going to keep what
Speaker 5: sort of front office they have in place. Hopefully they
Speaker 5: add some more scouts. Got to turn it up next
Speaker 5: year because we can't miss the playoffs another year in
Speaker 5: a row during Burrow's prime. I mean, it's been really disappointing.
Speaker 1: I would love to say that the same thing about Miles.
Speaker 1: If we could take your offense and defense and put
Speaker 1: them together, we could go to the playoffs together.
Speaker 2: John, you win the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It would be amazing. It would be actually amazing. We
Speaker 1: need your offensive line as well. Let me talk a
Speaker 1: little bit to the new audience, especially about the fact
Speaker 1: you were pummeled pretty badly at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: year by your colleagues on the Ruthless podcast over Skyline Chili,
Speaker 1: and I want you to know that I am from
Speaker 1: Ohio and I agree with them. It's horrible stuff. Nobody
Speaker 1: likes it outside of Cincinnati. You know that, don't you.
Speaker 1: It's horrible stuff.
Speaker 5: I do, but I don't care because I love it.
Speaker 5: If I had to choice for my last meal on Earth,
Speaker 5: I would choose that. I mean, I absolutely love it
Speaker 5: like most people from Cincinnati, but anybody from out of town.
Speaker 5: It's a real love hate thing. It's not something that
Speaker 5: everybody loves. Although I do have friends from northern Michigan,
Speaker 5: and I'm glad, glad to hear they're on the air
Speaker 5: right now. Beautiful part of the country. Maybe less so
Speaker 5: in the winter, but certainly in the summer. I do
Speaker 5: have some friends from northern Michigan who love it.
Speaker 1: So you must have some revo aviation pals down in Pensacola,
Speaker 1: don't you. That's where all the fighter pilots go.
Speaker 2: Without a doubt, I mean, that's a place to be.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think every kid grows up dreaming that
Speaker 5: one day they can move down to Pensacola and fly jets.
Speaker 5: You know, it didn't work out for me or most
Speaker 5: of my buddies, but what a great part of the country.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I got a son in law who
Speaker 1: is a fighter pilot, though he is now driving ships,
Speaker 1: not flying Fa teens anymore. But I asked him he
Speaker 1: happened to be he's not deployed right now. Happened to
Speaker 1: see him. How impressive was that operation over the week?
Speaker 1: And he said, man, that was something are you a
Speaker 1: little bit jealous? And there are a few of the
Speaker 1: guys from his class who are down there on different ships,
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, I got to admit I am.
Speaker 1: People want to be the guys who do this, want
Speaker 1: to be in that sort of a thing. And what
Speaker 1: are remarkable. Let's just for a moment your comment on
Speaker 1: what they pulled off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was incredible and you can easily understand why
Speaker 5: guys would want to be a part of that, because
Speaker 5: everybody wants to be a part of a team that
Speaker 5: knows how to execute.
Speaker 2: And wins when they do.
Speaker 5: And I mean they had every little detail figured out
Speaker 5: for that operation, right down to something that I know
Speaker 5: is near and dear to Dwayne Patterson's heart, the sound.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a guy who understands audio, so
Speaker 5: I know he appreciates this aspect of the mission. Speak
Speaker 5: General Lisimo, my favorite guy on the planet.
Speaker 2: The show, Well, they flew.
Speaker 5: They flew these jets so low over Caracas that the
Speaker 5: sound was deafening and nobody could hear the helicopters coming
Speaker 5: in from underneath. I mean, it was one of the
Speaker 5: most brilliant things that most other people would never even
Speaker 5: think of. But they thought of every last detail right
Speaker 5: down to that. And you got to think that the Chinese,
Speaker 5: you gotta think that the Russians, you gotta think the
Speaker 5: Iranians look at a mission like that and the way
Speaker 5: that the US was able to pull that off, and
Speaker 5: they're like, well, we could never do anything like that.
Speaker 5: And what a contrast between the way that Joe Biden
Speaker 5: and handled himself with Afghanistan and everything else in the
Speaker 5: way that President Trump is handling things, letting the military work.
Speaker 5: You got a lot of really smart people, they know
Speaker 5: what to do. You let them go out and you
Speaker 5: let them win.
Speaker 1: Now, John, I know you've been following Legacy media's reaction
Speaker 1: to this, and I know that they are very upset
Speaker 1: with the president. Have you noticed that they've lost their
Speaker 1: mind over the fact that we have once again done
Speaker 1: something that Joe Biden and Barack Obama never dared do,
Speaker 1: much less accomplished. They really have lost their mind that
Speaker 1: this was done.
Speaker 5: They have, and it doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 5: I mean, why can't they just say, yeah, we all
Speaker 5: said Maduro needed to go, and now he's gone. Why
Speaker 5: can't they just say, oh, that's great and move on
Speaker 5: to something else. I mean, for the life of me,
Speaker 5: I don't understand why they're trying to take the opposite
Speaker 5: position from a very successful mission by our own military.
Speaker 2: These are friends and neighbors.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: These are guys who put their life on the line
Speaker 5: to protect us, and they executed flawlessly, and this is
Speaker 5: the second time.
Speaker 1: They They don't be an attack.
Speaker 5: The media went on the offensive against Trump for some reason.
Speaker 1: You can't even understand.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: We had Bill Barr on our show, The Ruthless Podcast
Speaker 5: right before Christmas, and he of course worked for President Trump,
Speaker 5: but he worked for George hw Bush back in the
Speaker 5: day and talked about the parallels between their operation in
Speaker 5: Panama to remove Manuel Noriega in the operation of Venezuela
Speaker 5: to remove Nicholas Maduro.
Speaker 2: Very interesting conversation. Something I know.
Speaker 5: Would be near and dear to your heart is a
Speaker 5: legal mind. You know yourself. It was very sharp and
Speaker 5: I can't tell you how you know it just there's
Speaker 5: a new renewed sense of pride in like, hey, we're
Speaker 5: the greatest country in the world, and we have the
Speaker 5: best people, and when they execute, they win, and you
Speaker 5: just have to let them do it. I don't understand
Speaker 5: the second guessing from the mainstream media, but they'll never stop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a Lulu Navarro over at the New York
Speaker 1: Times who has posted that the secret police are out
Speaker 1: in the streets, and gangs are out in the streets
Speaker 1: and journalists are being arrested. And I think to myself
Speaker 1: that she's based this on phone calls with people she
Speaker 1: knows in Venezuela. They cannot help themselves. But the headline
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal John Maduro's capture deals heavy
Speaker 1: blow to Cuba's vaunted intelligence service. You think, so that's
Speaker 1: like the heavy blow that the Browns got this year,
Speaker 1: not making that they're out of the game. They're not.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants Cuban intelligence service anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, you love to see it.
Speaker 5: And I mean, how about the fact that there were
Speaker 5: thirty two Cubans around Maduro. I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 5: know that you follow these things closer than I do.
Speaker 5: I didn't expect them to walk in and find thirty
Speaker 5: two Cubans standing between them the in.
Speaker 2: The goal line, but they did.
Speaker 5: And it sort of gives you a little bit more
Speaker 5: pause because Cuba is so close to us. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's just a boat ride away from Key West and
Speaker 5: the thought that maybe there's a chance, you know, there's
Speaker 5: some speculation about well maybe Cuba is next. I certainly
Speaker 5: hope so, because that would be a wonderful place to
Speaker 5: visit something.
Speaker 1: The best they had and Delta Force went through them
Speaker 1: like Miles Garrett through the Bengals line. John Ashbrook, it
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Speaker 1: be right back on the g Healit Show. Welcome back America.
Speaker 1: I'm you, Hewett. David Drucker is with the Dispatches that
Speaker 1: are senior political correspondents for the Dispatches. Also always on
Speaker 1: the radio with me once a week David Drucker, Happy
Speaker 1: New Year to you. Your reaction to the Venezuela and
Speaker 1: operation over the weekend.
Speaker 4: Well, what fascinating me the most, Hugh was listening to
Speaker 4: General Kane, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Staff, sort
Speaker 4: of relay exactly what went into it, right, I mean he,
Speaker 4: I mean they were just fact after fact and discussing
Speaker 4: the amount of coordination and the planning and the execution.
Speaker 4: I mean, my hat's off to him just for overseeing this,
Speaker 4: but just the way he was able to explain it
Speaker 4: in a way that, you know, I could understand that.
Speaker 4: I felt like a lot of people could understand exactly
Speaker 4: what it is we accomplish that, you know, from a
Speaker 4: military standpoint, the very least was amazing.
Speaker 1: Now on the weekend review shows, especially George Stephanopolos with
Speaker 1: Secretary of Rabio. Secretary Rubio tried to explain to him
Speaker 1: again and again and again, we're not going in there
Speaker 1: with boots on the ground, but we're not letting the
Speaker 1: oil come out, and therefore we're in charge and we
Speaker 1: have leverage. And I don't know what it is that
Speaker 1: is so hard for people to understand. We're not running
Speaker 1: the country. We are running the country indirectly by not
Speaker 1: letting them sell their oil unless they do things. I'm
Speaker 1: not expecting miracles. I'm not expecting an overnight transition. I'm
Speaker 1: not even expecting an election. But I think it's a
Speaker 1: huge win for America anyway. What do you think.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think the removing Maduro from power
Speaker 4: and removing an ally anywhere in the world, particularly particularly
Speaker 4: in our region, from removing an ally from Iran, from Russia,
Speaker 4: from China.
Speaker 2: Is a net positive.
Speaker 4: Right, and there was legal there was a legal basis
Speaker 4: to remove him, which which helps I think part of
Speaker 4: the I don't want to say part of the problem,
Speaker 4: I will say part of the confusion is that the
Speaker 4: commander in chief, the President of the United States, keeps
Speaker 4: insisting that we're running Venezuela. He says so, and then
Speaker 4: people will say, well, Secretary of State Rubio explained that
Speaker 4: we're not really running it, we're just sort of, you know,
Speaker 4: making sure bad things don't happen.
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, no, we're running it.
Speaker 4: And so I think that it's important for us eventually
Speaker 4: to understand exactly what our influence is and how are
Speaker 4: we exerting it, because the United States has often executed
Speaker 4: the toppling of where I want to say often, but
Speaker 4: we have in the past very successfully executed the toppling
Speaker 4: of dictators, and where we've gotten ourselves into trouble or
Speaker 4: at least domestic political trouble for the administration overseeing it.
Speaker 4: But where Americans have gotten very glitchy with the whole
Speaker 4: thing is the aftermath, and so I think there's just
Speaker 4: a lot to understand that we don't know yet. But
Speaker 4: I don't blame people for asking the question or being
Speaker 4: confused because President Trump keeps insisting we are running the country.
Speaker 1: And now, David, this is where I think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I think we are running the country, not on a
Speaker 1: day to day basis, or an hour by hour basis
Speaker 1: or a block by block bike I think we're running
Speaker 1: the country because they can't sell their oil and they
Speaker 1: know that we can come get anyone we want and
Speaker 1: we want to, or we can kill them if we
Speaker 1: want to. If they try and hurt Americans or in
Speaker 1: the country, they better not threaten an American or killing American.
Speaker 1: So we are running the country. It's kind of the
Speaker 1: in the way that a lot of people run this
Speaker 1: show not named Hugh Hewett. And I've got two new
Speaker 1: affiliates today right in Pensacola, Florida, and up in Michigan.
Speaker 1: They run the UUIT Show because they can choose not
Speaker 1: to have me on the air tomorrow, So they run
Speaker 1: the u UIT Show and whether or not they're in Pensacola,
Speaker 1: but they're not telling me what they say every minute
Speaker 1: of the day. But if all my affiliates go away,
Speaker 1: I'm done. And so the question becomes I understand it?
Speaker 1: Does George really not get it? Do people really not
Speaker 1: understand that when you've got there them by the neck,
Speaker 1: they can't do anything right?
Speaker 6: Hugh?
Speaker 4: But I think so much goes into it, and I
Speaker 4: don't know that your analogy is apt. And look, I
Speaker 4: know where you're coming from, right, I mean I sometimes
Speaker 4: get screamed at by people like why did the dispatch
Speaker 4: do this? And I'm like, listen, I'm just the senior reporter.
Speaker 4: I'm not the executive editor or company president, so you know,
Speaker 4: talk to them about this. But from a political standpoint,
Speaker 4: if the dictator that's now in charge of Venezuela, and
Speaker 4: there's still a dictator in charge, it's just Maduro's so
Speaker 4: called vice president, then eventually the people in Venezuela are
Speaker 4: going to start asking questions. Right before they knew who
Speaker 4: their oppressor was, it was Maduro and his regime. And
Speaker 4: if we keep insisting that we're the ones keeping everything
Speaker 4: in place for whatever our reasons are, and I'm not
Speaker 4: saying they're not good reasons or we shouldn't do it,
Speaker 4: but the people in Venezuela are going to start saying, well,
Speaker 4: if you're running things, why don't you change it? And
Speaker 4: there may be some Americans, some voters who say, great operation,
Speaker 4: glad we got rid of Madurero, exactly the right decision.
Speaker 4: But now what are we doing with the country? What
Speaker 4: is it costing us? And so I just don't think
Speaker 4: it's quite as simple as saying we're running it but
Speaker 4: not but indirectly, I think that just a lot more
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to have to agree to disagree, because
Speaker 1: I'm reminded I use this analogy earlier with Jim Garrity
Speaker 1: in the aftermath the invasion of Iraq in two thousand
Speaker 1: and three, Libya that we were not intending to invade,
Speaker 1: was run by Kadafi at the time. He called up
Speaker 1: the United States and said, don't invade me, you can
Speaker 1: come get all my WMD. And for a course of
Speaker 1: a year that no one knew about, American special forces
Speaker 1: and trained weapons of mass destruction to destroyers went in
Speaker 1: there and shipped it all out and took it to
Speaker 1: the United States and rendered it harmless everything, and no
Speaker 1: one knew what was going on. We were running Libya
Speaker 1: for a year and nobody knew and then we were done.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, but that's yeah, that's not Listen, when you
Speaker 4: say we're running the country, right, I mean that that
Speaker 4: is another way of saying we're governing the country.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: We were dismantling Libya's WMD program at their request, and
Speaker 4: so there was no conflict. But we forcibly, and I'm
Speaker 4: not criticizing it, but we forcibly removed the leader of
Speaker 4: Venezuela's regime and we have now declared that we're in charge.
Speaker 4: So that raises a lot of questions as to the
Speaker 4: decisions we are making that is allowing that are allowing
Speaker 4: the new dictators to operate, and how they handle their
Speaker 4: citizens and other things. And I just think that the
Speaker 4: questions may have very good answers, and there may be
Speaker 4: a very good outcome. But if we're going to say
Speaker 4: that you're only allowed to do what we say or else,
Speaker 4: that means everything that's allowed to happen is something that
Speaker 4: we're at least winking and nodding at, if not endorsing,
Speaker 4: And then those are going to raise a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of other questions.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, we'll contain the conversation. Actually I think Rubio
Speaker 1: has made it very President said very briefly, we're running it,
Speaker 1: and Rubio explained, we're running it indirectly by the quarantine
Speaker 1: and the embargo, and I get it. And I think
Speaker 1: the legacy media is willfully refusing to understand what is
Speaker 1: going on here, which is leverage, and they just won't
Speaker 1: admit Trump pulled off a genie just move, and it's
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate actually because they're going to lose more audience
Speaker 1: as a result. David M. Drucker of The Dispatch always
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Speaker 1: Morning Glory and even Grace in America. I'm Hugh Hewett. Welcome
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Speaker 1: Brett Barry as the host of the Fox News Special
Speaker 1: Report every night at six pm. America's most trusted news
Speaker 1: anchor Brett, Happy New Year to you. I hope it's
Speaker 1: off to a good start.
Speaker 7: Happy new Year.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's cooking.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of news, well there is.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me today, go I said, this is there's
Speaker 1: no better time to be in this business, Brett. Some
Speaker 1: people are being purposely obtuse as to what it means
Speaker 1: when President Trump says we are running back, Nezuela. I
Speaker 1: think I understand what he means. What do you think
Speaker 1: he means.
Speaker 7: I think he means that we're running as far as
Speaker 7: influence and leverage and have you know, a thumb on
Speaker 7: the scale, as far as the people on the ground
Speaker 7: that they need to do what the US wants them
Speaker 7: to do, and thereby running it from Afar, not running
Speaker 7: it like a viceroy, you know, on the ground in Baghdad.
Speaker 7: And I think that's what he means, and that it's
Speaker 7: going to lead to a transition on the ground for
Speaker 7: eventually an election, but that you have to, you know,
Speaker 7: get from point A to point B. I think there
Speaker 7: are a lot of questions here, Hugh. I think that
Speaker 7: there are legitimate questions about how the previous regime and
Speaker 7: the loyalists who were loyal to Maduro suddenly can change.
Speaker 7: But if you're looking at an armada off your coast
Speaker 7: and you're looking at a leverage from the US, maybe
Speaker 7: you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there are many questions. I don't think
Speaker 1: we'll get a lot of answers because I think a
Speaker 1: lot of this is being done, as was the two
Speaker 1: thousand and three George W. Bush operation in Libya, where
Speaker 1: Kadafi said, I don't want to be invaded, come get
Speaker 1: my WMD, and we sent scores hundreds of special personnel
Speaker 1: there to offshore and then destroy his vast arsenal of WMD.
Speaker 1: It's years before President Obama bombed him, and nobody knew
Speaker 1: about that, Brett. So I don't know what we're doing there,
Speaker 1: and I don't expect us to know because I don't
Speaker 1: think we can know. And if the acting president, the
Speaker 1: DOW president, is running a double game speaking in Spanish
Speaker 1: to the Chavistas and talking in English to Marco Rubio,
Speaker 1: that's fine by me. We don't need to know. Do
Speaker 1: you think that might be what's going on?
Speaker 7: I do think that there is something that has been
Speaker 7: baked in the cake to have the amount of confidence
Speaker 7: that they have currently with as many questions as we have,
Speaker 7: you know, on the outside looking in, I think that
Speaker 7: something is afoot that we don't know about. And we
Speaker 7: know for a fact that the CIA has been on
Speaker 7: the ground for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are thirty two dead Cuban security service members.
Speaker 1: Cuba certainly knows what's going on. So that brings me
Speaker 1: to Lulu Navarro. I don't know her. She might be
Speaker 1: a fine reporter. I don't take the New York Times anymore.
Speaker 1: She posted up a few hours ago, about seven thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning East Coast time, speaking to people I
Speaker 1: know inside Venezuela, and they tell me arm gangs basically
Speaker 1: paramilitary gangs wi lied to the government, are roaming the streets.
Speaker 1: Arrests of journalists are taking place, and the new old
Speaker 1: government is undergoing a wave of repression. Is that what
Speaker 1: the US means by being in control now? I think
Speaker 1: that's purposely obtuse I don't doubt that their arm gangs
Speaker 1: in the street. I hope journalists aren't being arrested, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if that was happening. And I
Speaker 1: don't believe the regime is going to suddenly announce we're
Speaker 1: going to do what the United States wants us to do.
Speaker 1: But I also think we're grown ups. And what I
Speaker 1: saw many people engage Secretary of Rubio, they were not
Speaker 1: asking grown up questions. I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: to engage in media criticism with me. Grown up questions
Speaker 1: is when can we expect to see concrete results in
Speaker 1: Venezuela six months, a year, two years? Is that a
Speaker 1: fair question?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a fair question. I don't know
Speaker 7: that they haven't answer to that yet, And I agree
Speaker 7: with you. I mean, there were efforts to try to
Speaker 7: catch him up, and I think that you know, sicher
Speaker 7: Rubio does a fun job answering with the answers that
Speaker 7: he has. I don't I think that there are, you know,
Speaker 7: parts of this that don't add up as far as
Speaker 7: an easy storyline. You know, Republicans don't want to be
Speaker 7: holding the bag like we were in a rock and
Speaker 7: you know, when the Baptists disappeared into the insurgency and
Speaker 7: we didn't pay the checks and suddenly there was a
Speaker 7: massive pushback. You know, I covered that on the ground
Speaker 7: in fact that and it was a mess for a
Speaker 7: long long time. And I think that that is in
Speaker 7: people's minds and thereby it leads to a lot of
Speaker 7: questions about what it looks like now in Caraucus.
Speaker 1: So we're not going to have a Paul Bremer, who
Speaker 1: was the Viceroy of Iraq. We're not using that model.
Speaker 1: And the model we are using is I think the
Speaker 1: Libyan model from the same time two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: But it's pressure, and I think it's immense pressure. What
Speaker 1: do you think. Have you had a chance to chat
Speaker 1: with anyone yet about the almost immediate second order impact
Speaker 1: on Cuba and then a third order impact on China,
Speaker 1: which we'll combine with the Iranian impact on China to
Speaker 1: put I think China's the big loser this week. There
Speaker 1: are two oil suppliers, but that's between five and fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty percent of their oil every day has just
Speaker 1: been shut off by these two countries in disarray.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Russia is not a winner either. And you
Speaker 7: start starving Russia and China of the lifeblood of some
Speaker 7: of this oil, it becomes harder for them to do
Speaker 7: some big things. It becomes harder for Putin to maintain Ukraine,
Speaker 7: It becomes I think harder maybe for China to move
Speaker 7: on Taiwan. I mean, at least that's what I agree
Speaker 7: experts are saying, and I kind of tend to agree
Speaker 7: with them.
Speaker 1: So well, that's the world picture. Donald Trump was at
Speaker 1: the Trump County Center today talking to Republicans urging them
Speaker 1: to do a deal on healthcare. I frankly don't think
Speaker 1: that's possible, given that the Republican Congress and died mister
Speaker 1: Lamoff in California today. Marjorie Taylor Green's gonna leave. They're
Speaker 1: going to be down to a margin of two votes.
Speaker 1: Michael Lawler is one of them, Yeah, Massi's one of them.
Speaker 1: The other one is Michael Lawler. I like Michael Lawler,
Speaker 1: but he's not going to vote for it, so that
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen to you.
Speaker 7: I don't that said. I hear the president. I hear
Speaker 7: what his idea is and putting the money in health
Speaker 7: savings accounts for getting the money to people to make
Speaker 7: the decisions, to take it out of the hands of
Speaker 7: the insurance companies. I get the pitch. It's a very
Speaker 7: positive pitch, and it's probably one that puts Democrats in
Speaker 7: a corner with such slim majority's it's going to be tough.
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't have much hope for that,
Speaker 1: But I do have hope for the economy. And that
Speaker 1: brings me to my last question, Brett Pair, if you're asked,
Speaker 1: straight up, straight newsman that you are, is America better
Speaker 1: off today than it was on January sixth, twenty five?
Speaker 1: How do you say? How do you assess that?
Speaker 7: Yes, everybody I talked to on all sides of the
Speaker 7: aisle sees sprouts of an economy that is ready to
Speaker 7: bust out. And the more aggressive ones think you wanting
Speaker 7: you too are going to be really aggressive, and the
Speaker 7: others are, you know, hesitant about the effect of terrorists
Speaker 7: and what it means big picture. But I think overall
Speaker 7: you could make that flat statement and be confident to
Speaker 7: back it up.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think the price of
Speaker 1: oil falling contributes to everyone except those of us in California.
Speaker 1: I'm here for a few weeks. We all get Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't get the benefit of that here. I wish
Speaker 1: I was wherever you are. Brett Bear, always good to
Speaker 1: talk to you. Follow Brett on Exit Brett Bear. Watch
Speaker 1: him every night at six pm on the Fox News Channel.
Speaker 1: Special Report America's anchor is Brett Behar. Thank you, Brett,
Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. My next guest, Michael Wattley was
Speaker 1: frequently on my program in twenty twenty four when he
Speaker 1: was running the Republican National Committee and leading the ground
Speaker 1: game that got Donald Trump elected president again and got
Speaker 1: the Senate in Republican hands, at the House in Republican hands.
Speaker 1: But now Michael Wattley's running for himself, so he's going
Speaker 1: to be along a lot in twenty twenty six because
Speaker 1: we got to get him elected in North Carolina. Chairman Watley,
Speaker 1: how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
Speaker 9: It's going to be on with you, Hugh.
Speaker 1: Well, let's start with the basics you're at. You're a
Speaker 1: campaign man. What's the website for Watley for Senate?
Speaker 9: It is Michael Wiley dot com.
Speaker 1: Michael Wattley dot com spelled w h A t e
Speaker 1: l y w h A t l e y w
Speaker 1: h A t l e y and your Twitter account,
Speaker 1: your X handle is Watley NC wh A t l
Speaker 1: e y NC Michael. How much does it cost to
Speaker 1: run in North Carolina? And you need small donors? So
Speaker 1: let's start asking.
Speaker 9: Yeah, look, this race is going to be the most
Speaker 9: expensive Senate race in the history of the country. We're
Speaker 9: talking six hundred to eight hundred million dollars that's going
Speaker 9: to be all in. We're going to need to raise
Speaker 9: about fifty million of that into my campaign, and it
Speaker 9: is going to come from people all across this country.
Speaker 9: You know, we're very excited about the response that we've
Speaker 9: seen from the first you know, several months that we've
Speaker 9: been a candidate here where we've been getting donations from
Speaker 9: all fifty states, across all one hundred counties here in
Speaker 9: North Carolina because people understand, we have got to keep
Speaker 9: the Senate Republican. We have got to make sure that
Speaker 9: President Trump has an ally at North Carolina, has a
Speaker 9: conservative champion in the Senate. We do not need to
Speaker 9: flip the Senate to the Democrats and go back to
Speaker 9: where we were with Joe Biden and his politics.
Speaker 1: Now you've got President Trump on your side as you
Speaker 1: were on his side in twenty twenty four. Has he
Speaker 1: already been down to the state or is that coming
Speaker 1: up later as we get closer to the election.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he came down the Friday before Christmas and had
Speaker 9: a fantastic event in Rocky Mount North Carolina, a really,
Speaker 9: really great conversation about how the economy is picking up
Speaker 9: and all the things that he is doing to make
Speaker 9: sure that we're going to create more jobs, we're going
Speaker 9: to get bigger paychecks, and we're going to get costs down.
Speaker 9: So I do expect that he'll be back in North
Speaker 9: Carolina again. This is one of his favorite states. It's
Speaker 9: the only battleground state that we actually carried for Donald
Speaker 9: Trump all three times, twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and twenty
Speaker 9: twenty four.
Speaker 1: Now, Michael Whatley, we got to make sure we do
Speaker 1: early voting in North Carolina because you're Delta Force guys
Speaker 1: that could be anywhere, that could be in Caracas next November, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you do represent Delta Force, don't you.
Speaker 9: I got to say, I am so proud of the
Speaker 9: work that they did and for President Trump to stand
Speaker 9: up and take out one of the most dangerous criminals
Speaker 9: in the entire Western hemisphere, and for the role of
Speaker 9: our brave men and women from Fort Bragg here in
Speaker 9: North Carolina. Could not be prouder of the work that
Speaker 9: they've done. You know, when you talk about the early vote,
Speaker 9: you know we expect over fifty percent of all votes
Speaker 9: will be cast before election day in North Carolina. That
Speaker 9: has been the case going back to when I was
Speaker 9: the state Party chair and we built an early vote
Speaker 9: program that has been winning the early vote here in
Speaker 9: North Carolina for the first time ever.
Speaker 1: Now, Sherman, we lost my friend, your friend, Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 1: and the Turning Point effort is simply irreplaceable. Has it
Speaker 1: continued on strong in North Carolina in the wake of
Speaker 1: Charlie's murder.
Speaker 2: Well, it absolutely has.
Speaker 9: We have a fantastic series of chapters all across the state.
Speaker 9: I am very proud to be endorsed by Turning Point Action.
Speaker 9: Had a chance to go out there and meet with
Speaker 9: their leadership at the Amfest in Phoenix a couple of
Speaker 9: weeks ago, and we do have strong support all across
Speaker 9: the state from him. You know, when you think about
Speaker 9: how Donald Trump won, one of the key demographs that
Speaker 9: we were able to win was young voters. And we've
Speaker 9: never ever as Republicans carried you know, young voters like
Speaker 9: we did with President Trump. The fact that he won
Speaker 9: you know, males eighteen to twenty four outright was the
Speaker 9: first time that we've ever seen that. And we need
Speaker 9: to make sure that we're fighting for their values right,
Speaker 9: And what do young voters want. They want jobs, they
Speaker 9: want paychecks, they want to be able to get married,
Speaker 9: they want to be able to afford a house and
Speaker 9: raise a family. And under Joe Biden and the Democrats,
Speaker 9: that just simply was not happening, which is why they
Speaker 9: came to President Trump and why we're going to continue
Speaker 9: to fight for that agenda.
Speaker 1: Now. Michael Whitley, one of the unusual thing about North
Speaker 1: Carolina is a schizophrenic come governor time and you're running
Speaker 1: ains Roy Cooper to term governor in North Carolina. But
Speaker 1: I wonder, do you have a blue state fraud problem?
Speaker 1: Like Tim Walls and Gavin Newsom and Hokal in New York,
Speaker 1: every blue state seems to be a wash with fraud.
Speaker 1: Does North Carolina have that?
Speaker 9: Well, we're certainly going to see. We're going to see
Speaker 9: what happens there. You know, Fortunately, we have had Republican
Speaker 9: legislature since twenty ten and they've done a pretty good
Speaker 9: job of kind of setting up this economy to thrive.
Speaker 9: You know, when we talk about North Carolina, you mentioned
Speaker 9: it's a purple state. We're thirty percent Republican thirty percent Democrat,
Speaker 9: forty percent unaffiliated, which is our version of the independence
Speaker 9: and the way that manifests itself is we typically see
Speaker 9: Democrat governors, lieutenant governor's, attorney general, Secretary of State, but
Speaker 9: we win on the federal side. And so we have
Speaker 9: ten out of fourteen members of Congress right now, we're Republicans.
Speaker 9: Both of our senators are Republicans, and Donald Trump won
Speaker 9: the state three different times. So we know that we're
Speaker 9: going to be in for a very serious fight here,
Speaker 9: that this is going to be the most closely contested
Speaker 9: and expensive Senate race in the entire country. But we
Speaker 9: feel very confident that we're going to win because we're
Speaker 9: voting and we're running on the same issue set that
Speaker 9: President Trump did in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: And again I peeled in my audience and you'll hear
Speaker 1: Michael Wattley a lot this year. Go to Michael Wattley
Speaker 1: dot com. Because you're ten dollars, you're twenty five dollars
Speaker 1: or one hundred dollars, makes a difference. This is the
Speaker 1: key to holding the Senate. We got a hold on
Speaker 1: to John Houston in Ohio, and that's that's a given
Speaker 1: Susan Allins and May that's a given. Democrats have their
Speaker 1: eye on North Carolina because it's an empty seat, and
Speaker 1: they unfortunately drew Michael Wattley as a challenger now, Chairman Wattley,
Speaker 1: I love what the President did with Operation Midnight, Ammer,
Speaker 1: I love what he did with Maduro. People don't vote
Speaker 1: on that though. They vote on gas and the cost
Speaker 1: of food and whether or not they have a job.
Speaker 1: How is gas doing in North Carolina? And I'm out
Speaker 1: in California for a few weeks. It's four and a half,
Speaker 1: you know, Gavin issham Land, it's four and a half
Speaker 1: dollars a gallon here? What is it in North Carolina?
Speaker 9: Yeah, according to gas Buddy this morning, it's two dollars
Speaker 9: and fifty nine cents a gallon, which is a pretty
Speaker 9: big drop from where we were just even last month.
Speaker 9: You know, when prices are coming down. President Trump has
Speaker 9: unleashed American energy and we are seeing the fruits of
Speaker 9: that right now. And it really truly matters when you
Speaker 9: talk about the economy. Gasoline and diesel prices really truly
Speaker 9: do dictate a lot of our grocery prices, retail prices,
Speaker 9: in other prices that we're going to see, and so
Speaker 9: the number one influence when it comes to inflation is
Speaker 9: going to be what the gas prices are. And that's
Speaker 9: why we've seen inflation prices come down so dramatically since
Speaker 9: President Trump took over.
Speaker 1: Last question in North Carolina, I got my in laws,
Speaker 1: my son's in laws live in Winston Salem, and it's
Speaker 1: still affordable in Winston Salem. You can find a house,
Speaker 1: you can find an apartment in Winston sale What about
Speaker 1: the state as a whole, Charlotte's Booman. What is it
Speaker 1: for a young couple looking to get places to buy
Speaker 1: or rent?
Speaker 9: Well, Look, what I will say is this the President Biden,
Speaker 9: over the course of the four years that he was
Speaker 9: in office, buying the exact same house costs twice as
Speaker 9: much in twenty twenty four as it did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 9: Housing prices are still way too high, and we need
Speaker 9: to see the Fed drop the interest rate. I'm glad
Speaker 9: that President Trump is fighting every single day with the
Speaker 9: Fed to try and get those interest rates down. We
Speaker 9: need to make a change in the leadership there in
Speaker 9: order to be able to help. But North Carolina is
Speaker 9: still one of those states because of the Republican led legislature,
Speaker 9: where our economy is strong. We are creating jobs and
Speaker 9: wages are going up, and that really is going to
Speaker 9: be a significant factor for anybody who wants to start
Speaker 9: a family and buy a house.
Speaker 1: We will keep talking throughout the year. Michael Wattley good
Speaker 1: luck all the way through November. Michael Wattley dot com.
Speaker 1: Michael Wattley dot com, w h A T L E Y.
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Speaker 1: the country at the state here. Got to hold on
Speaker 1: to the Senate. Thank you, mister chairman. I'll be right
Speaker 1: back in America. Stay tuned to the quih Welcome to
Speaker 1: hour three of the program today, whether you're watching on
Speaker 1: the Sale News channel or listening to our affiliates all
Speaker 1: across the United States. I want to watch Welcome, especially
Speaker 1: are new affiliate in Pensacola, Florida. Among our regular guests
Speaker 1: is Tennessee Senator Marsha Blackburn, who about this time next
Speaker 1: year will be Tennessee Governor Marsha Blackburn. Because I think
Speaker 1: she's going to win her race for governor there. Welcome, Senator.
Speaker 1: Can I begin by asking for your reaction to the
Speaker 1: operation app the resolve that President Trump ordered up over
Speaker 1: the weekend in Venezuela.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, And when I talked to Tennessee and Hugh, they
Speaker 10: are so pleased with President Donald Trump taking the action.
Speaker 10: Nicholas Maduro has headed the cartel. He and his wife
Speaker 10: have really been in charge of this operation. They've been
Speaker 10: pushing these drugs into the United States. You've got hundreds
Speaker 10: of thousands of individuals that have lost their lives, families
Speaker 10: that have been adversely impacted, communities that have been torn apart.
Speaker 10: This is a narco terrorist and it is appropriate that
Speaker 10: he was apprehended and that he has been brought to
Speaker 10: the US to face the charges that are in front
Speaker 10: of him and to be held to account for what
Speaker 10: he has done to hundreds of thousands of Americans.
Speaker 1: Now, Senator, I taught your colleague yesterday, Senator, who's one
Speaker 1: of the group of eight who gets warning when it's
Speaker 1: appropriate of something like this going down? And there was
Speaker 1: no advanced notice here and he was fine with that
Speaker 1: because of the nature of the operation. Do you believe
Speaker 1: it was a legal operation, and that Congress got adequate
Speaker 1: notice when they received it.
Speaker 10: I believe it was a proper operation, and I do
Speaker 10: believe that the notice we received immediately after was sufficient.
Speaker 10: President Donald Trump was right to go in and to
Speaker 10: carry this out. I think that General Cain did a
Speaker 10: good job of laying out the framework of this operation
Speaker 10: and the fact that it was military and law enforcement.
Speaker 10: And tomorrow we're going to have a briefing on this
Speaker 10: and look forward to more details.
Speaker 1: Now, Sentry Blackburn. Our friends in the left winging legacy media,
Speaker 1: whether it's George stefan Anopolis on ABC or the New
Speaker 1: York Times reporter today, are saying, what's it mean. You're
Speaker 1: running it? You're not running it? And then Secretary of Rubiu,
Speaker 1: your old colleague for many years, said we're not letting
Speaker 1: any of the oil out. We've got leverage. And I
Speaker 1: understand what the President means when he says we're running it.
Speaker 1: We're not having a Paul Bremer in Caracas like we
Speaker 1: did in Iraq, but we are running the show there
Speaker 1: because they're not going to be able to sell. It's
Speaker 1: like being in bankruptcy court and we're the bankruptcy judge.
Speaker 1: Do they not understand or are they being willfully ignorant.
Speaker 10: I when you look at the statements they have made
Speaker 10: in years past about Maduro needing to be removed and
Speaker 10: the issue in Venezuela being dealt with, and now they're
Speaker 10: trying to do the flip flop, which they've become a
Speaker 10: pro at anything that Donald Trump is for, they are
Speaker 10: going to be against.
Speaker 6: And you know you think it is as simple as that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I agree with you because I know what he means.
Speaker 1: And an if I'm not looking for an immediate transformation,
Speaker 1: I would like to get your estimate on how long
Speaker 1: it will be till we see the kind of move
Speaker 1: towards democracy. I'm thinking two years to get the transition
Speaker 1: in place, and I think we've got agency people down there,
Speaker 1: and we certainly have the armada to enforce the quarantine.
Speaker 1: How long until you think we'll see real change that
Speaker 1: Americans say, Ah, that's why we did that.
Speaker 10: And I don't know the answer to that, because I'm
Speaker 10: not sure anyone at this point knows the answer to
Speaker 10: that question. What we do know is that we are
Speaker 10: there to help stabilize, We are there to bring freedom.
Speaker 10: We are not there to occupy and We certainly have
Speaker 10: heard from Venezuelan's whether they are in Tennessee or Florida
Speaker 10: or any of the other states. They are so excited
Speaker 10: that they now have hope for stability in their country
Speaker 10: and getting their country back on track and moving it
Speaker 10: to productivity. And I have a friend that sent me
Speaker 10: a text from one of his friends who is Venezuelan,
Speaker 10: who said, now my daughter will have a future. And
Speaker 10: so that is what people are looking toward. Exactly how
Speaker 10: that is going to roll out. I don't think that
Speaker 10: we can give you a solid answer to that right now,
Speaker 10: because this is a situation that is developing, and even
Speaker 10: though we live in an age where people want instant
Speaker 10: gratification hughes, sometimes things.
Speaker 6: Are going to take a little bit of time.
Speaker 10: The good thing is we are there to help be
Speaker 10: a stabilizing presence in this region.
Speaker 1: And I think Secretary Rubio explained it perfectly. Well, they're
Speaker 1: not going to tell you well unless we let them,
Speaker 1: and we're not going to let them unless they move
Speaker 1: towards reform. Now, Senator Blackburn, let's talk about becoming Governor Blackburn,
Speaker 1: we have a problem in the United States, blue state fraud.
Speaker 1: It's been in Minnesota most obviously uncovered. It's in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm in California right now for a few weeks where
Speaker 1: gas costs four and a half dollars a gallon, and
Speaker 1: we had twenty billion dollars stolen from the COVID money
Speaker 1: by prisoners in jail filing unemployment insurance claims. That we're honored.
Speaker 1: Do you think Tennessee has got the kind of problem
Speaker 1: that Minnesota, New York and California does? Is that what
Speaker 1: you're looking forward to when you become governor?
Speaker 10: You know, I think Tennessee is a well led, well
Speaker 10: governed state, and this is why you see Tennessee being
Speaker 10: one of those states where people want to move.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 10: One of the things that I think has been shocking
Speaker 10: to people is when you look at Minnesota, you are
Speaker 10: seeing such broad based fraud. And this is on children's
Speaker 10: service programs. But when you begin to add two that
Speaker 10: programs that deal with homelessness, with drug addiction, the way
Speaker 10: some of these grants have been made to nonprofits.
Speaker 6: You also in Mississippi today.
Speaker 10: There is a jury that is being seeded that is
Speaker 10: going to deal with fraud issues there.
Speaker 6: You have some people that have pled guilty.
Speaker 10: And someone else who is going to actually go to
Speaker 10: trial on this. I think what we have seen is
Speaker 10: this is just the tip of the iceberg when it
Speaker 10: comes to fraud in so many of these government programs.
Speaker 6: You know, when you look at healthcare. One of the.
Speaker 10: Things we found in these plus Biden bonus COVID credits
Speaker 10: was a tremendous amount of fraud in the Obamacare program.
Speaker 6: You've got twenty.
Speaker 10: Four million people and roll twelve million never used the program.
Speaker 10: That is why President Trump is saying, let's stop sending
Speaker 10: the money to the insurance company, send it to the individual,
Speaker 10: send it.
Speaker 6: Back to the content.
Speaker 1: Is what a concept. So, Senator black Man, before we
Speaker 1: run out of time, what is your website for the
Speaker 1: governor's campaign? I want to make sure the audience, especially
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, but across the United States, knows where they
Speaker 1: can go to get news about the campaign, make a
Speaker 1: contribution to the campaign, follow the campaign. Where's the political website?
Speaker 6: And that is Marsha Blackburn dot com.
Speaker 1: That's easy, Marsha Blackburn dot com. Last question, Senator, the
Speaker 1: Titans were awful, My Browns were awful. You know the haslums.
Speaker 1: Can you guys work it out? So that the Browns
Speaker 1: and the Titans get better.
Speaker 10: I want to make certain that Tennessee has winning teams.
Speaker 1: Senator Marcell Blackman, always a pleasure to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Don't go anywhere in America.
Speaker 1: I'll be coming back with Byron York here on the
Speaker 1: US Show. Welcome back. I'm you as Byron York is
Speaker 1: with the Washington Examiner, is their chief correspondent. You can
Speaker 1: read them daily over at Washington Examiner, dcexaminer dot com.
Speaker 1: Actually Fox News contributor as well. Byron. It's been at
Speaker 1: least forty eight hours since we got some of the
Speaker 1: details in Venezuela. What do you make of the assessments,
Speaker 1: not of the operation, it was brilliant, but of the
Speaker 1: assessments of the operation that we're now seeing in legacy media.
Speaker 1: They're saying nothing has changed as bad as before.
Speaker 8: Well, that you mean nothing nothing has changed in Venezuela,
Speaker 8: correct as or well? Obviously the administration has been saying,
Speaker 8: you know what we want to do. We're not going
Speaker 8: to run every single bit of every office Venezuela. That's
Speaker 8: not what Trump means by running. We're going to make
Speaker 8: it more pro American and we're going to ensure that
Speaker 8: they stop the drug trafficking, that they stop the mass migration,
Speaker 8: and we get rid of foreign influences a hostile to
Speaker 8: the United States in Venezuela. So I think it's way
Speaker 8: too early to say that that has happened. Now, who's
Speaker 8: going to be in charge of the police. Is there
Speaker 8: going to be an election to stand someone up quickly?
Speaker 8: I don't know. I will say I think that for
Speaker 8: the President's sake, they should do what they're doing quickly,
Speaker 8: because if they're messing with this six months from now,
Speaker 8: it's going to be they're going to be one in
Speaker 8: the middle of midterm season and two open to charges
Speaker 8: of nation building, which would be a bad idea.
Speaker 1: So Byron, the representative post I've taken to stand in
Speaker 1: for all of legacy media, and I do mean television,
Speaker 1: news and radio and columnists is Lulu of The New
Speaker 1: York Times. Lulu Navarro. Earlier today she posted speaking do
Speaker 1: people I know inside Venezuela, They tell me arm gangs
Speaker 1: parens basically paramilitary gangs. Well I to the government are
Speaker 1: roaming the streets. Arrests of journalists are taking place, and
Speaker 1: the new old government is undergoing a wave of repression.
Speaker 1: Is this what the US means by being in control?
Speaker 1: How do you react to that? I'll give you a
Speaker 1: second take afterwards, but that's legacy media at its finest.
Speaker 8: Well, look, I don't know what's happening on the streets
Speaker 8: of Venezuela right now, do you. I mean no, really
Speaker 8: don't have a good feel of what's going on in
Speaker 8: the streets of Venezuela right now. So I'm not going
Speaker 8: to say that any report is false or overdone. But
Speaker 8: I do know what American officials are saying there are
Speaker 8: and what they plan to do, and I do know
Speaker 8: it can't be done in the forty eight hours we've
Speaker 8: been talking about now.
Speaker 1: The second take, which I found in news item by
Speaker 1: John Ellis this morning, is from an immigration lawyer in
Speaker 1: New York, Eva Golnger, and she wrote, this is just
Speaker 1: a simple overview. The government in Venezuela has been comprised
Speaker 1: of several groups. They have a power sharing pact. They
Speaker 1: control different sectors of the apparatus, security, military, Pueblo Collectivo's institution, judiciary, oil, industry, business, etc.
Speaker 1: One of those groups, Delci and her brother Horge, have
Speaker 1: now taken power through a meticulous and evil genius negotiation
Speaker 1: with the Trump administration that has been going on for
Speaker 1: months behind the scenes. Note that the new indictment against
Speaker 1: Maduro and Cilia includes both Maduro's son and Dioso Dado.
Speaker 1: That is purposely to put them on alert that they
Speaker 1: are next should they betray their Ariga siblings. CIA is
Speaker 1: now operating inside Venezuela and can execute another extraordinary rendition
Speaker 1: at any time on Trump's orders. DELCIA has allowed to
Speaker 1: man in permitting them to stay. The US Embassy is returning,
Speaker 1: along with all of it's intel and military support, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot more. I posted over at my ex account.
Speaker 1: I have no way of knowing if that's true either,
Speaker 1: but you know, that's a completely different view of what's
Speaker 1: going on, which is more like Kadafi two thousand and
Speaker 1: three than it is. The New York Times reporter saying
Speaker 1: I've talked to people in New York and repression is happening.
Speaker 8: I don't know. I mean sorry, I'm the guest who
Speaker 8: knows nothing.
Speaker 1: You and I are, We're equal.
Speaker 8: We're together on this one.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 8: I simply don't know what's happening on the ground in Venezuela.
Speaker 8: We you know, the United States has just swooped in
Speaker 8: and taken the president, decapitated the government, and begun some
Speaker 8: number of measures to insert new control over it and
Speaker 8: appoint some sort of new leadership in the relatively near future.
Speaker 8: But I have no idea. I would expect that's a
Speaker 8: pretty disquieting series of events in Venezuela, which was pretty
Speaker 8: much lawless on the government side anyway. So I have
Speaker 8: no idea.
Speaker 1: So what I do know is what Rubio told Stephanopoulos
Speaker 1: three times on Sunday. We have a quarantine on their
Speaker 1: oil that gives us leverage. So unless they make changes,
Speaker 1: they will sell no oil before it's time. It's like
Speaker 1: the old Gallo Wine ad. That means Cuba and China
Speaker 1: are in a world of hurt, and also mean Iran,
Speaker 1: which is falling apart as we speak, can't be exporting
Speaker 1: as much oil as it wants to. That hurts China
Speaker 1: as well. So taken as a whole, has the world
Speaker 1: improved for freedom from a year ago?
Speaker 8: From a year ago?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I would yeah, I would think so absolutely.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 8: First of all, you have the Iranian nuclear program is
Speaker 8: been obliterated, and to use Trump's words, something, if not obliterated,
Speaker 8: dark to it. So I think that's a positive right there.
Speaker 8: And I think the United States has made clear this
Speaker 8: whole you know, this whole Trump corollary of the Monroe
Speaker 8: doctrine was in the National Security Strategy released by the
Speaker 8: administration in November. You can read it. It's it's pretty
Speaker 8: pretty clear, uh, and it really paves the way for
Speaker 8: what's just been done in Venezuela. So I do think
Speaker 8: things are better. Obviously, the war on Ukraine has not stopped.
Speaker 8: The war in Gaza sort of has, but so I
Speaker 8: think on net net it's in the better shape.
Speaker 1: And the border is closed US.
Speaker 8: Mexico border absolutely, and.
Speaker 1: Four point three percent GDP in quarter three. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of all these tariffs, but
Speaker 1: I'm also not as skeptical as some iologically absolutist free traders,
Speaker 1: and so I step back and say, I don't know
Speaker 1: how anyone can say Trump hadn't had a good first year.
Speaker 1: I think he's had a great first year, Byron, and.
Speaker 8: I think it's yeah, I think it's very positive. And
Speaker 8: I do think you're right about the four point three
Speaker 8: percent GDP that was, like you know, every economic story
Speaker 8: about Trump on the newsday has the awards unexpected in
Speaker 8: it because they never expect GDP to get better. They
Speaker 8: never expect inflation to stay the same or go down
Speaker 8: because they're expecting bad things. And all of the calamitous
Speaker 8: predictions after the tariffs have just not really come to pass. Yes,
Speaker 8: the tariffs have increased prices in some areas, there's no
Speaker 8: doubt about that, but nothing like the things that were
Speaker 8: predicted before, which was basically the democratic refrain of he's
Speaker 8: crashing the economy. Go back to late March and April
Speaker 8: that they said it over and over and over again,
Speaker 8: he's crashing the economy.
Speaker 1: Good luck with that with four percent four point three
Speaker 1: percent growth. Last question Byron. They also never account for
Speaker 1: substitutionary goods. Some goods are impacted by terrorists, but you
Speaker 1: don't have to buy them. There's always a substitute for
Speaker 1: them made in America. I really, except for bananas and coffee.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we don't make there or people
Speaker 1: can't choose. I just don't know. Well, we're out of time.
Speaker 1: Byron ne York. Always a pleasure to talk to you.
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Speaker 1: Segen Welcome back, America. I'm here do it. I get
Speaker 1: to introduce my new affiliate in Pensacola, Florida News Radio
Speaker 1: Pensacola ninety two point three w NRP to James Lylyx
Speaker 1: as in lilex on x, otherwise the funniest man on substack.
Speaker 1: You can get his substack at James Lylyx dot substack
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Speaker 1: I have so much to cover with you. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to move fast. First of all, my memory is
Speaker 1: failing me. But on the huge cruise that you were
Speaker 1: kind enough to come on, we call it the Cold Cruise.
Speaker 1: It was a Caribbean cruise and it was about fifty
Speaker 1: degrees out there. Did we or did we not stop
Speaker 1: at an island in Venezuela. We did not stop at
Speaker 1: an island.
Speaker 11: We stopped at a place off the Honduras and we
Speaker 11: went and we you know, faft around with with dolphins.
Speaker 6: But no, I don't believe that we did.
Speaker 1: I thought we went to Cardahanga is Carda Hania partner.
Speaker 11: I would love to be able to say that I've
Speaker 11: been to Venezuela and just count that little one stop there,
Speaker 11: but I don't believe. So I will check my records
Speaker 11: and then I'll get back to you. Is that the
Speaker 11: only time you've been to Venezuela? Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 11: That might not.
Speaker 1: It's not even Venezuela.
Speaker 11: Yeah, No, Cartaga is Columbia. And that was on the
Speaker 11: U crew that was on the Panama cruise.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, So did you go on
Speaker 1: that one?
Speaker 2: I did, don't you remember?
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything, James.
Speaker 2: Which would not have been Venezuela.
Speaker 1: There are twenty five different cruises. They all kind of
Speaker 1: cruised together, the U Cruises cruise. Yes, well, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 11: I wouldn't know, Hugh, because I haven't been on any
Speaker 11: of your cruises lately. I stopped at two for some reason.
Speaker 11: It may have been that unfortunate example, you know, instance
Speaker 11: in the bar that night that got me blacklisted. But
Speaker 11: we can talk about you. Well, that's not for the radio.
Speaker 1: Okay. Second question, Denmark has appealed for a meeting with
Speaker 1: Secretary of Rubio for Greenland. You think that's well advised
Speaker 1: on their part.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 11: Ruby has got an awful lot in this plate right now,
Speaker 11: and they might want to remind him that, in addition
Speaker 11: to being in charge of Venezuela and several of the things,
Speaker 11: he probably doesn't want to take Venezuela doesn't want to
Speaker 11: take Greenland onto his plate. But I you know, I'm
Speaker 11: drawing the line at annex in Greenland.
Speaker 2: I really am.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 11: I've been all for these muscular strikes that decapitate the
Speaker 11: Iranian nuclear facilities and do what they did in Venezuela.
Speaker 11: But the idea of somehow of gathering the huge bouncey
Speaker 11: of Greenland into the national arms, I'm not quite there.
Speaker 1: I'm all in favor it. Did you ever read Red
Speaker 1: Storm Rising when Tom Clancy was in his of his power.
Speaker 1: Remember when John Clark drossed on the it was Greenland
Speaker 1: or Iceland? I get him confused. But John Clark dropped
Speaker 1: there and set up the station where we intercepted all
Speaker 1: the Reskies.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 11: Well, I tend to think that we could probably get
Speaker 11: what we wanted out of there in terms of military
Speaker 11: strategy and the communic case of a pinch without.
Speaker 2: Actually making it the fifty first flag.
Speaker 11: We can loose the American economy in other ways, rather
Speaker 11: than pausing everybody to go out and get a different flag,
Speaker 11: because everybody now would have to go out and get
Speaker 11: a different flag because it would have another star.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you did it in Minnesota. You just put
Speaker 1: up a new flag in Minnesota. I'm coming there. That's
Speaker 1: my fourth point. I'm going to get to the Have
Speaker 1: you got the new flag?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I've got the old flag.
Speaker 11: I'm that much of a reventious I'm that much of
Speaker 11: a traditionalist that I actually have the old flag castigated
Speaker 11: by all for it's bad messages, but yes I do,
Speaker 11: and it's right next to my one with five oh
Speaker 11: count them five o stars.
Speaker 1: We don't want to make Greenland esteak that can be
Speaker 1: like Puerto Rico, a commonwealth, And we just want to
Speaker 1: keep the chi Coms out of our two hundred mile
Speaker 1: national waters. If they're going to come up with the
Speaker 1: nine dash line for the waters off China for the
Speaker 1: China Sea. We need Greenland and we can keep them out.
Speaker 1: That's why we need Greenland. I don't think we need Gleenland.
Speaker 11: We can probably do it without angering everybody there and
Speaker 11: confirming the worst suspicions.
Speaker 2: That everybody has of it.
Speaker 11: Usually, I don't care if our worse subbicions are confirmed,
Speaker 11: because it means that we're feared as opposed to being
Speaker 11: you know, doormat.
Speaker 2: But this is just an unforced error.
Speaker 1: No, no, I want Greenland. We must part ways here.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about legacy media and Venezuela. Are they
Speaker 1: that dumb? Are they simply ignorant? Or are they deceitful
Speaker 1: because they keep saying they don't know what it means
Speaker 1: to run Venezuela the way we are running Venezuela is,
Speaker 1: which is as a bankruptcy judge runs a company in bankruptcy.
Speaker 2: Yeah right.
Speaker 11: I mean there's a lot of moving parts here, are
Speaker 11: a lot of clogging blogging parts that have to be
Speaker 11: made of heavy oil. So no, I don't trust anybody
Speaker 11: actually in the media to be able to get wrap
Speaker 11: their hands around this. I expect them to touch tutt
Speaker 11: and cluck cluck, And unfortunately, in this case, you know,
Speaker 11: it's sort of hard to touch up and cluck cluck
Speaker 11: a lot when the guy is so manifestly unpopular and
Speaker 11: has done so many bad things, bad things, and when
Speaker 11: you impress upon them to the fact that are on
Speaker 11: in China and Russia or no, on their backfoot because
Speaker 11: of what we did there, and it was a pretty
Speaker 11: good geopolitical move and shows that America is back baby,
Speaker 11: and the rest of it it doesn't, you know, Either
Speaker 11: they just shut up and slink away, or they make
Speaker 11: some argument about legality. And I always loved the legality
Speaker 11: argument because the idea that the world is governed by
Speaker 11: words instead of the blade of the sword is a
Speaker 11: nice little fiction that we still inherit from the nineteen
Speaker 11: nineties of the Oughts.
Speaker 1: But tats so I politically convenient. Now my last question,
Speaker 1: my last question for the segment. Did you get any
Speaker 1: of the money in Minnesota? Are you the only guy
Speaker 1: that missed it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 11: I actually have declared I think seven point eight million
Speaker 11: dollars since the year two thousand and when I began
Speaker 11: a daycare here in my house. Now, when I say
Speaker 11: a daycare in my house, I mean I was taking
Speaker 11: care of my daughter after she was born and continued
Speaker 11: to do so for eighteen years. I figured that that
Speaker 11: probably qualifies as a daycare. So, you know, I haven't
Speaker 11: put in for it yet, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to try retroactively. It might not be a good
Speaker 1: time to try retroactively. Maybe not. Do you think Governor
Speaker 1: Walls quit because he wanted to focus on governing? Yes,
Speaker 1: I know that's right.
Speaker 2: I am so devoted to the practice of brain surgery.
Speaker 11: I'm chopping off both of my hands and dashing.
Speaker 1: On both my eyes.
Speaker 2: No, of course not.
Speaker 11: He saw the polls and the party gave a nice
Speaker 11: little shove because behind him, if Amy Klobshar is actually
Speaker 11: going to fill the role, is one of the most
Speaker 11: trusted politicians I think at the state. And Amy Klobshar
Speaker 11: is going to run, That's what I'm hearing. Going to
Speaker 11: swapp her in and something like that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Oh but then no, may be wrong, but nobody wants
Speaker 1: to work for her.
Speaker 2: Oh yes they do, Yes they do.
Speaker 11: It's the little millennials who don't like a comb throw
Speaker 11: them into the thrown at them because they forgot to
Speaker 11: do something promptly and have to go off and cry
Speaker 11: on Tumblr. No, No, people like to work for her
Speaker 11: because she's generally smart and no nonsense. And I mean
Speaker 11: there are worse people to work for in Washington, to
Speaker 11: believe me.
Speaker 1: But I know that if she runs, that means no
Speaker 1: one will know any of the senators in Minnesota. Right now,
Speaker 1: they know who Amy Klobear is. Yes, Smith is.
Speaker 11: The unless of course they put unless, of course they
Speaker 11: put Tim Watson the spot in the Senator.
Speaker 1: In the Senator, they just move around like that. That
Speaker 1: would be that would give Maria Harono a run for money. Actually,
Speaker 1: if they put yeah, I'm just not sure where that's
Speaker 1: going to happen. James, it's good to have you back.
Speaker 1: I want everyone to keep it abroad with John Clark
Speaker 1: doing Tom Clancy like mission, I would like everyone to know.
Speaker 1: You can go to James Lys dot substack dot com,
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Speaker 1: We'll find out about his application for childcare status next
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