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Speaker 1: On this Tuesday. I'm Hugh Hewittt and Really Factor Studio Wes.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Got a lot coming up

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Speaker 1: today Byron York Brett Baar. I'll be talking with Lilas later,

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Speaker 1: but I begin with Jim Garretty, senior editor at Nash Review,

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Speaker 1: host of the three Martini podcasts, frequent contribute to the

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Speaker 1: Editors podcast at National Review, Washington Post columnist, and Jets fan.

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Speaker 1: And the Jets were worse than the Browns. I just

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Speaker 1: want that on the record there, Jim, you guys stunk

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Speaker 1: worse than Cleveland did.

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Speaker 2: Hey when we played each other? Who wants you?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's beside the point. It's about the season. Jim,

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Speaker 1: you're drafting ahead of us, and I gather you're drafting

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Speaker 1: another quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all depends on whether war comes out from Oregon.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He's the only one who said, assuming the Raiders take

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Speaker 3: Mendoza right now, if you look at the history of

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, they have this history of making really unorthodox picks.

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Speaker 3: If they did pick them, he'd be there. I believe

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Speaker 3: their first quarterback they took that early. Since JaMarcus Russell

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Speaker 3: trivia question, everybody who's.

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Speaker 1: Like, nobody wants to remember that nobody, no Raiders fan

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Speaker 1: wants to remember mister Russell. But I do think the

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Speaker 1: Jets will take a QB. Browns are at six, They'll

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Speaker 1: take a wide receiver and then an ol with the

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Speaker 1: Jags pick, we're gonna we're me in the playoffs next year, Jim,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the Jets.

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Speaker 3: So you're going to hire a coach who's going to

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Speaker 3: have to accept shdor Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Is that the thinking?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: You welcome to scenic, Sonny, lovely Cleveland, where you will

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Speaker 3: not get the choice of what quarterback you want with

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Speaker 3: the guy who you know. But I an honest, curious question,

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Speaker 3: and I welcome to j Hewitt Sports talk radio.

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Speaker 2: But are they going to interview Dion?

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Speaker 1: Do you think no I will let me let me

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Speaker 1: make a dendant that they might because of the Rooney rule,

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Speaker 1: but they would not hire him. It would not be

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Speaker 2: Which is exactly why they're going to hire and Gym take.

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Speaker 1: It to the banks. Not happening. So let's get to

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Speaker 1: the serious stuff. Operation Apps out resolve your reaction, Jim.

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Speaker 3: Garritty military operation was phenomenal and and really on par

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Speaker 3: with bin Laden Operation.

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Speaker 2: Hugo. You know, the entire regime in Venezuela is terrible.

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Speaker 3: I don't I have no patience for any of those

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Speaker 3: idiots in the streets marching free our president.

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Speaker 2: He's not a president, he's a dictator.

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Speaker 3: He's got a record of human rights abuses that are

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Speaker 3: longer than a CBS receipt.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not one hundred percent sure.

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Speaker 3: I love the idea of leaving the vice president in charge.

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Speaker 3: She has certainly sounded defiant. Now it's possible she's taking

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Speaker 2: Behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: Trump was saying that she was being very gracious in

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Speaker 3: getting the Venezuelan regime to stop cooperating with Iran and

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Speaker 3: year from now, I will feel like this astounding military

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Speaker 3: operation has been wasted, because I'd really like to see

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Speaker 3: the Venezuelan people get to choose their own leaders one.

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Speaker 2: Of these days.

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Speaker 1: Now, Jim, I don't know if you get news items

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Speaker 1: If we won't know, and I don't think we can

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Speaker 3: If that happened, yes, I would love to see that happen.

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Speaker 3: Color me a bit more skeptical. We're talking about a

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Speaker 2: Of rape as a weapon. Like this is a bad,

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Speaker 3: And maybe she does not want to wake up to

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Speaker 3: If that comes the case, great. I don't think we're

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Speaker 3: seeing this at her public stands so far. Now, maybe

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Speaker 3: But I just don't trust this woman, and now I don't.

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Speaker 1: The only analogy I can hope is happening, and we

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Speaker 1: I don't have the clearances. Nobody does. Is it not

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Speaker 1: in the game? Is what happened in Libya after George W.

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Speaker 1: and nobody knew a thing. And this is years before

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Speaker 1: he was toppled by Obama. I'm just hoping the same

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Speaker 3: I again, I hope you're right, and I do remember.

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Speaker 3: Right around that time, Hugh Kadaffi did an interview I

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Speaker 3: Kadaffi says to Klein something along the lines are like,

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Speaker 2: Not to bomb me. I am not sodom husseying.

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Speaker 3: I will you know, and look if this can quote

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Speaker 3: president of Venezuela, Rodriguez is going to have a different

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Speaker 3: I understand that they're all over the Middle East there

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Speaker 2: Ye know, if that's what's going to happen, great.

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Speaker 3: I still, however, believe that like one, this regime is

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Speaker 3: And then secondly, I would like to see the Venezuelan

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Speaker 2: Like they had an election in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: They picked somebody else and the regime said, never mind,

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Speaker 1: It's been twenty years of dictatorial rule since Chavez took over,

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Speaker 3: I understand why people don't feel like the golden age

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Speaker 3: I would prefer the president would not insist the affordability

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Speaker 3: like that. I don't like the tariffs, but unbalanced things

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Speaker 3: we would not feel like things are getting better.

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Speaker 1: There, Jim, we hardly knew. Ye we got thirty seconds.

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Speaker 2: Sha think we don't well enough?

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Speaker 1: How sad are you that Tim Wallas is out of

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Speaker 2: So okay? So I went back and I checked.

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Speaker 3: The very first thing I wrote about Tim Walls was

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Speaker 3: July twenty ninth, twenty twenty four, and I said that

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Speaker 3: there was no way that Kamala Harris was going to

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Speaker 3: the entire state government of Minnesota had been looted in

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Speaker 3: one fraud scandal after another. Now it's not that nobody

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Speaker 3: else wrote about this during the twenty twenty four presidential campaign.

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Speaker 2: CNN did do one good.

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Speaker 2: Goodbye and large. You didn't hear very much about.

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Speaker 1: It unless you were a power Line blog reader. All

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Speaker 1: The best they had and Delta Force went through them

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Speaker 1: New Year to you. Your reaction to the Venezuela and

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Speaker 4: Well, what fascinating me the most, Hugh was listening to

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think the removing Maduro from power

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Speaker 4: to remove him, which which helps I think part of

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Speaker 4: I will say part of the confusion is that the

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Speaker 4: people will say, well, Secretary of State Rubio explained that

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Speaker 4: we're not really running it, we're just sort of, you know,

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Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, no, we're running it.

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Speaker 4: And so I think that it's important for us eventually

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Speaker 4: to understand exactly what our influence is and how are

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Speaker 4: we exerting it, because the United States has often executed

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Speaker 4: the toppling of where I want to say often, but

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Speaker 4: we have in the past very successfully executed the toppling

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Speaker 4: at least domestic political trouble for the administration overseeing it.

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Speaker 4: But where Americans have gotten very glitchy with the whole

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Speaker 4: thing is the aftermath, and so I think there's just

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Speaker 4: a lot to understand that we don't know yet. But

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Speaker 4: I don't blame people for asking the question or being

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Speaker 4: confused because President Trump keeps insisting we are running the country.

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Speaker 1: And now, David, this is where I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think we are running the country, not on a

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Speaker 1: day to day basis, or an hour by hour basis

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Speaker 1: or a block by block bike I think we're running

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Speaker 1: the country because they can't sell their oil and they

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Speaker 1: know that we can come get anyone we want and

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Speaker 1: we want to, or we can kill them if we

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Speaker 1: want to. If they try and hurt Americans or in

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Speaker 1: the country, they better not threaten an American or killing American.

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Speaker 1: So we are running the country. It's kind of the

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Speaker 1: in the way that a lot of people run this

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Speaker 1: show not named Hugh Hewett. And I've got two new

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Speaker 1: affiliates today right in Pensacola, Florida, and up in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: They run the UUIT Show because they can choose not

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Speaker 1: to have me on the air tomorrow, So they run

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Speaker 1: the u UIT Show and whether or not they're in Pensacola,

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Speaker 1: but they're not telling me what they say every minute

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Speaker 1: of the day. But if all my affiliates go away,

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Speaker 1: I'm done. And so the question becomes I understand it?

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Speaker 1: Does George really not get it? Do people really not

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Speaker 1: understand that when you've got there them by the neck,

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Speaker 1: they can't do anything right?

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Speaker 6: Hugh?

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Speaker 4: But I think so much goes into it, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know that your analogy is apt. And look, I

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Speaker 4: know where you're coming from, right, I mean I sometimes

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Speaker 4: get screamed at by people like why did the dispatch

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Speaker 4: do this? And I'm like, listen, I'm just the senior reporter.

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Speaker 4: I'm not the executive editor or company president, so you know,

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Speaker 4: talk to them about this. But from a political standpoint,

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Speaker 4: if the dictator that's now in charge of Venezuela, and

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Speaker 4: there's still a dictator in charge, it's just Maduro's so

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Speaker 4: called vice president, then eventually the people in Venezuela are

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Speaker 4: going to start asking questions. Right before they knew who

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Speaker 4: their oppressor was, it was Maduro and his regime. And

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Speaker 4: if we keep insisting that we're the ones keeping everything

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Speaker 4: in place for whatever our reasons are, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying they're not good reasons or we shouldn't do it,

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Speaker 4: but the people in Venezuela are going to start saying, well,

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Speaker 4: if you're running things, why don't you change it? And

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Speaker 4: there may be some Americans, some voters who say, great operation,

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Speaker 4: glad we got rid of Madurero, exactly the right decision.

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Speaker 4: But now what are we doing with the country? What

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Speaker 4: is it costing us? And so I just don't think

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Speaker 4: it's quite as simple as saying we're running it but

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Speaker 4: not but indirectly, I think that just a lot more

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Speaker 4: to it.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to have to agree to disagree, because

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Speaker 1: I'm reminded I use this analogy earlier with Jim Garrity

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Speaker 1: in the aftermath the invasion of Iraq in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three, Libya that we were not intending to invade,

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Speaker 1: was run by Kadafi at the time. He called up

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Speaker 1: the United States and said, don't invade me, you can

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Speaker 1: come get all my WMD. And for a course of

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Speaker 1: a year that no one knew about, American special forces

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Speaker 1: and trained weapons of mass destruction to destroyers went in

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Speaker 1: the United States and rendered it harmless everything, and no

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Speaker 1: one knew what was going on. We were running Libya

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Speaker 1: for a year and nobody knew and then we were done.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, but that's yeah, that's not Listen, when you

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Speaker 4: say we're running the country, right, I mean that that

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Speaker 4: is another way of saying we're governing the country.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: We were dismantling Libya's WMD program at their request, and

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Speaker 4: so there was no conflict. But we forcibly, and I'm

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Speaker 4: not criticizing it, but we forcibly removed the leader of

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Speaker 4: Venezuela's regime and we have now declared that we're in charge.

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Speaker 4: So that raises a lot of questions as to the

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Speaker 4: decisions we are making that is allowing that are allowing

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Speaker 4: the new dictators to operate, and how they handle their

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Speaker 4: citizens and other things. And I just think that the

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Speaker 4: questions may have very good answers, and there may be

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Speaker 4: a very good outcome. But if we're going to say

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Speaker 4: that you're only allowed to do what we say or else,

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Speaker 4: that means everything that's allowed to happen is something that

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Speaker 4: we're at least winking and nodding at, if not endorsing,

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Speaker 4: And then those are going to raise a whole bunch

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Speaker 4: of other questions.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, we'll contain the conversation. Actually I think Rubio

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Speaker 1: has made it very President said very briefly, we're running it,

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Speaker 1: and Rubio explained, we're running it indirectly by the quarantine

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Speaker 1: and the embargo, and I get it. And I think

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Speaker 1: the legacy media is willfully refusing to understand what is

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Speaker 1: going on here, which is leverage, and they just won't

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Speaker 1: admit Trump pulled off a genie just move, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate actually because they're going to lose more audience

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Speaker 1: as a result. David M. Drucker of The Dispatch always

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Speaker 1: good to see you. Follow him on X everybody. David M.

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Speaker 1: Drucker follow me the next segment of the UUIT Show

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Speaker 1: Morning Glory and even Grace in America. I'm Hugh Hewett. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our new affiliates, especially w NRP and Florida and Pensacola.

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Speaker 1: So good to have the Naval Aviation Committee join us,

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Speaker 1: as well as everyone else in Pensacola and our friends

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Speaker 1: up North Way North in Michigan on WMKT. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the UWIT Show. I like to begin most Tuesdays with

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Speaker 1: Brett Barry as the host of the Fox News Special

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Speaker 1: Report every night at six pm. America's most trusted news

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Speaker 1: anchor Brett, Happy New Year to you. I hope it's

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Speaker 1: off to a good start.

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Speaker 7: Happy new Year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's cooking.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of news, well there is.

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Speaker 1: Someone asked me today, go I said, this is there's

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Speaker 1: no better time to be in this business, Brett. Some

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Speaker 1: people are being purposely obtuse as to what it means

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Speaker 1: when President Trump says we are running back, Nezuela. I

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Speaker 1: think I understand what he means. What do you think

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Speaker 1: he means.

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Speaker 7: I think he means that we're running as far as

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Speaker 7: influence and leverage and have you know, a thumb on

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Speaker 7: the scale, as far as the people on the ground

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Speaker 7: that they need to do what the US wants them

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Speaker 7: to do, and thereby running it from Afar, not running

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Speaker 7: it like a viceroy, you know, on the ground in Baghdad.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's what he means, and that it's

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Speaker 7: going to lead to a transition on the ground for

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Speaker 7: eventually an election, but that you have to, you know,

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Speaker 7: get from point A to point B. I think there

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Speaker 7: are a lot of questions here, Hugh. I think that

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Speaker 7: there are legitimate questions about how the previous regime and

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Speaker 7: the loyalists who were loyal to Maduro suddenly can change.

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Speaker 7: But if you're looking at an armada off your coast

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Speaker 7: and you're looking at a leverage from the US, maybe

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Speaker 7: you do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there are many questions. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we'll get a lot of answers because I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of this is being done, as was the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and three George W. Bush operation in Libya, where

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Speaker 1: Kadafi said, I don't want to be invaded, come get

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Speaker 1: my WMD, and we sent scores hundreds of special personnel

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Speaker 1: there to offshore and then destroy his vast arsenal of WMD.

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Speaker 1: It's years before President Obama bombed him, and nobody knew

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Speaker 1: about that, Brett. So I don't know what we're doing there,

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Speaker 1: and I don't expect us to know because I don't

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Speaker 1: think we can know. And if the acting president, the

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Speaker 1: DOW president, is running a double game speaking in Spanish

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Speaker 1: to the Chavistas and talking in English to Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 1: that's fine by me. We don't need to know. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that might be what's going on?

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Speaker 7: I do think that there is something that has been

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Speaker 7: baked in the cake to have the amount of confidence

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Speaker 7: that they have currently with as many questions as we have,

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Speaker 7: you know, on the outside looking in, I think that

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Speaker 7: something is afoot that we don't know about. And we

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Speaker 7: know for a fact that the CIA has been on

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Speaker 7: the ground for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are thirty two dead Cuban security service members.

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Speaker 1: Cuba certainly knows what's going on. So that brings me

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Speaker 1: to Lulu Navarro. I don't know her. She might be

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Speaker 1: a fine reporter. I don't take the New York Times anymore.

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Speaker 1: She posted up a few hours ago, about seven thirty

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Speaker 1: in the morning East Coast time, speaking to people I

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Speaker 1: know inside Venezuela, and they tell me arm gangs basically

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Speaker 1: paramilitary gangs wi lied to the government, are roaming the streets.

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Speaker 1: Arrests of journalists are taking place, and the new old

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Speaker 1: government is undergoing a wave of repression. Is that what

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Speaker 1: the US means by being in control now? I think

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Speaker 1: that's purposely obtuse I don't doubt that their arm gangs

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Speaker 1: in the street. I hope journalists aren't being arrested, but

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if that was happening. And I

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Speaker 1: don't believe the regime is going to suddenly announce we're

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Speaker 1: going to do what the United States wants us to do.

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Speaker 1: But I also think we're grown ups. And what I

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Speaker 1: saw many people engage Secretary of Rubio, they were not

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Speaker 1: asking grown up questions. I don't know if you want

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Speaker 1: to engage in media criticism with me. Grown up questions

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Speaker 1: is when can we expect to see concrete results in

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Speaker 1: Venezuela six months, a year, two years? Is that a

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Speaker 1: fair question?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a fair question. I don't know

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Speaker 7: that they haven't answer to that yet, And I agree

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Speaker 7: with you. I mean, there were efforts to try to

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Speaker 7: catch him up, and I think that you know, sicher

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Speaker 7: Rubio does a fun job answering with the answers that

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Speaker 7: he has. I don't I think that there are, you know,

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Speaker 7: parts of this that don't add up as far as

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Speaker 7: an easy storyline. You know, Republicans don't want to be

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Speaker 7: holding the bag like we were in a rock and

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Speaker 7: you know, when the Baptists disappeared into the insurgency and

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Speaker 7: we didn't pay the checks and suddenly there was a

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Speaker 7: massive pushback. You know, I covered that on the ground

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Speaker 7: in fact that and it was a mess for a

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Speaker 7: long long time. And I think that that is in

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Speaker 7: people's minds and thereby it leads to a lot of

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Speaker 7: questions about what it looks like now in Caraucus.

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Speaker 1: So we're not going to have a Paul Bremer, who

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Speaker 1: was the Viceroy of Iraq. We're not using that model.

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Speaker 1: And the model we are using is I think the

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Speaker 1: Libyan model from the same time two thousand and three.

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Speaker 1: But it's pressure, and I think it's immense pressure. What

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Speaker 1: do you think. Have you had a chance to chat

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Speaker 1: with anyone yet about the almost immediate second order impact

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Speaker 1: on Cuba and then a third order impact on China,

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Speaker 1: which we'll combine with the Iranian impact on China to

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Speaker 1: put I think China's the big loser this week. There

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Speaker 1: are two oil suppliers, but that's between five and fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty percent of their oil every day has just

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Speaker 1: been shut off by these two countries in disarray.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and Russia is not a winner either. And you

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Speaker 7: start starving Russia and China of the lifeblood of some

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Speaker 7: of this oil, it becomes harder for them to do

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Speaker 7: some big things. It becomes harder for Putin to maintain Ukraine,

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Speaker 7: It becomes I think harder maybe for China to move

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Speaker 7: on Taiwan. I mean, at least that's what I agree

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Speaker 7: experts are saying, and I kind of tend to agree

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Speaker 7: with them.

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Speaker 1: So well, that's the world picture. Donald Trump was at

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Speaker 1: the Trump County Center today talking to Republicans urging them

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Speaker 1: to do a deal on healthcare. I frankly don't think

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Speaker 1: that's possible, given that the Republican Congress and died mister

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Speaker 1: Lamoff in California today. Marjorie Taylor Green's gonna leave. They're

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Speaker 1: going to be down to a margin of two votes.

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Speaker 1: Michael Lawler is one of them, Yeah, Massi's one of them.

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Speaker 1: The other one is Michael Lawler. I like Michael Lawler,

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Speaker 1: but he's not going to vote for it, so that

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen to you.

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Speaker 7: I don't that said. I hear the president. I hear

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Speaker 7: what his idea is and putting the money in health

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Speaker 7: savings accounts for getting the money to people to make

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Speaker 7: the decisions, to take it out of the hands of

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Speaker 7: the insurance companies. I get the pitch. It's a very

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Speaker 7: positive pitch, and it's probably one that puts Democrats in

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Speaker 7: a corner with such slim majority's it's going to be tough.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't have much hope for that,

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Speaker 1: But I do have hope for the economy. And that

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Speaker 1: brings me to my last question, Brett Pair, if you're asked,

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Speaker 1: straight up, straight newsman that you are, is America better

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Speaker 1: off today than it was on January sixth, twenty five?

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Speaker 1: How do you say? How do you assess that?

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Speaker 7: Yes, everybody I talked to on all sides of the

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Speaker 7: aisle sees sprouts of an economy that is ready to

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Speaker 7: bust out. And the more aggressive ones think you wanting

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Speaker 7: you too are going to be really aggressive, and the

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Speaker 7: others are, you know, hesitant about the effect of terrorists

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Speaker 7: and what it means big picture. But I think overall

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Speaker 7: you could make that flat statement and be confident to

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Speaker 7: back it up.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think the price of

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Speaker 1: oil falling contributes to everyone except those of us in California.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for a few weeks. We all get Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't get the benefit of that here. I wish

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Speaker 1: I was wherever you are. Brett Bear, always good to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. Follow Brett on Exit Brett Bear. Watch

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Speaker 1: him every night at six pm on the Fox News Channel.

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Speaker 1: Special Report America's anchor is Brett Behar. Thank you, Brett,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. My next guest, Michael Wattley was

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Speaker 1: frequently on my program in twenty twenty four when he

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Speaker 1: was running the Republican National Committee and leading the ground

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Speaker 1: game that got Donald Trump elected president again and got

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Speaker 1: the Senate in Republican hands, at the House in Republican hands.

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Speaker 1: But now Michael Wattley's running for himself, so he's going

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Speaker 1: to be along a lot in twenty twenty six because

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Speaker 1: we got to get him elected in North Carolina. Chairman Watley,

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Speaker 1: how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be on with you, Hugh.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start with the basics you're at. You're a

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Speaker 1: campaign man. What's the website for Watley for Senate?

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Speaker 9: It is Michael Wiley dot com.

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Speaker 1: Michael Wattley dot com spelled w h A t e

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Speaker 1: l y w h A t l e y w

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Speaker 1: h A t l e y and your Twitter account,

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Speaker 1: your X handle is Watley NC wh A t l

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Speaker 1: e y NC Michael. How much does it cost to

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Speaker 1: run in North Carolina? And you need small donors? So

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Speaker 1: let's start asking.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, look, this race is going to be the most

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Speaker 9: expensive Senate race in the history of the country. We're

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Speaker 9: talking six hundred to eight hundred million dollars that's going

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Speaker 9: to be all in. We're going to need to raise

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Speaker 9: about fifty million of that into my campaign, and it

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Speaker 9: is going to come from people all across this country.

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Speaker 9: You know, we're very excited about the response that we've

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Speaker 9: seen from the first you know, several months that we've

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Speaker 9: been a candidate here where we've been getting donations from

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Speaker 9: all fifty states, across all one hundred counties here in

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Speaker 9: North Carolina because people understand, we have got to keep

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Speaker 9: the Senate Republican. We have got to make sure that

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Speaker 9: President Trump has an ally at North Carolina, has a

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Speaker 9: conservative champion in the Senate. We do not need to

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Speaker 9: flip the Senate to the Democrats and go back to

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Speaker 9: where we were with Joe Biden and his politics.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got President Trump on your side as you

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Speaker 1: were on his side in twenty twenty four. Has he

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Speaker 1: already been down to the state or is that coming

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Speaker 1: up later as we get closer to the election.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he came down the Friday before Christmas and had

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Speaker 9: a fantastic event in Rocky Mount North Carolina, a really,

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Speaker 9: really great conversation about how the economy is picking up

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Speaker 9: and all the things that he is doing to make

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Speaker 9: sure that we're going to create more jobs, we're going

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Speaker 9: to get bigger paychecks, and we're going to get costs down.

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Speaker 9: So I do expect that he'll be back in North

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Speaker 9: Carolina again. This is one of his favorite states. It's

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Speaker 9: the only battleground state that we actually carried for Donald

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Speaker 9: Trump all three times, twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Now, Michael Whatley, we got to make sure we do

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Speaker 1: early voting in North Carolina because you're Delta Force guys

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Speaker 1: that could be anywhere, that could be in Caracas next November, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you do represent Delta Force, don't you.

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Speaker 9: I got to say, I am so proud of the

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Speaker 9: work that they did and for President Trump to stand

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Speaker 9: up and take out one of the most dangerous criminals

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Speaker 9: in the entire Western hemisphere, and for the role of

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Speaker 9: our brave men and women from Fort Bragg here in

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Speaker 9: North Carolina. Could not be prouder of the work that

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Speaker 9: they've done. You know, when you talk about the early vote,

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Speaker 9: you know we expect over fifty percent of all votes

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Speaker 9: will be cast before election day in North Carolina. That

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Speaker 9: has been the case going back to when I was

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Speaker 9: the state Party chair and we built an early vote

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Speaker 9: program that has been winning the early vote here in

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Speaker 9: North Carolina for the first time ever.

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Speaker 1: Now, Sherman, we lost my friend, your friend, Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: and the Turning Point effort is simply irreplaceable. Has it

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Speaker 1: continued on strong in North Carolina in the wake of

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Speaker 1: Charlie's murder.

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Speaker 2: Well, it absolutely has.

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Speaker 9: We have a fantastic series of chapters all across the state.

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Speaker 9: I am very proud to be endorsed by Turning Point Action.

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Speaker 9: Had a chance to go out there and meet with

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Speaker 9: their leadership at the Amfest in Phoenix a couple of

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Speaker 9: weeks ago, and we do have strong support all across

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Speaker 9: the state from him. You know, when you think about

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Speaker 9: how Donald Trump won, one of the key demographs that

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Speaker 9: we were able to win was young voters. And we've

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Speaker 9: never ever as Republicans carried you know, young voters like

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Speaker 9: we did with President Trump. The fact that he won

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Speaker 9: you know, males eighteen to twenty four outright was the

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Speaker 9: first time that we've ever seen that. And we need

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Speaker 9: to make sure that we're fighting for their values right,

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Speaker 9: And what do young voters want. They want jobs, they

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Speaker 9: want paychecks, they want to be able to get married,

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Speaker 9: they want to be able to afford a house and

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Speaker 9: raise a family. And under Joe Biden and the Democrats,

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Speaker 9: that just simply was not happening, which is why they

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Speaker 9: came to President Trump and why we're going to continue

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Speaker 9: to fight for that agenda.

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Speaker 1: Now. Michael Whitley, one of the unusual thing about North

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Speaker 1: Carolina is a schizophrenic come governor time and you're running

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Speaker 1: ains Roy Cooper to term governor in North Carolina. But

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Speaker 1: I wonder, do you have a blue state fraud problem?

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Speaker 1: Like Tim Walls and Gavin Newsom and Hokal in New York,

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Speaker 1: every blue state seems to be a wash with fraud.

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Speaker 1: Does North Carolina have that?

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Speaker 9: Well, we're certainly going to see. We're going to see

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Speaker 9: what happens there. You know, Fortunately, we have had Republican

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Speaker 9: legislature since twenty ten and they've done a pretty good

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Speaker 9: job of kind of setting up this economy to thrive.

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Speaker 9: You know, when we talk about North Carolina, you mentioned

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Speaker 9: it's a purple state. We're thirty percent Republican thirty percent Democrat,

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Speaker 9: forty percent unaffiliated, which is our version of the independence

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Speaker 9: and the way that manifests itself is we typically see

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Speaker 9: Democrat governors, lieutenant governor's, attorney general, Secretary of State, but

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Speaker 9: we win on the federal side. And so we have

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Speaker 9: ten out of fourteen members of Congress right now, we're Republicans.

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Speaker 9: Both of our senators are Republicans, and Donald Trump won

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Speaker 9: the state three different times. So we know that we're

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Speaker 9: going to be in for a very serious fight here,

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Speaker 9: that this is going to be the most closely contested

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Speaker 9: and expensive Senate race in the entire country. But we

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Speaker 9: feel very confident that we're going to win because we're

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Speaker 9: voting and we're running on the same issue set that

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Speaker 9: President Trump did in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: And again I peeled in my audience and you'll hear

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Speaker 1: Michael Wattley a lot this year. Go to Michael Wattley

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Speaker 1: dot com. Because you're ten dollars, you're twenty five dollars

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Speaker 1: or one hundred dollars, makes a difference. This is the

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Speaker 1: key to holding the Senate. We got a hold on

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Speaker 1: to John Houston in Ohio, and that's that's a given

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Speaker 1: Susan Allins and May that's a given. Democrats have their

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Speaker 1: eye on North Carolina because it's an empty seat, and

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Speaker 1: they unfortunately drew Michael Wattley as a challenger now, Chairman Wattley,

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Speaker 1: I love what the President did with Operation Midnight, Ammer,

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Speaker 1: I love what he did with Maduro. People don't vote

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Speaker 1: on that though. They vote on gas and the cost

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Speaker 1: of food and whether or not they have a job.

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Speaker 1: How is gas doing in North Carolina? And I'm out

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Speaker 1: in California for a few weeks. It's four and a half,

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Speaker 1: you know, Gavin issham Land, it's four and a half

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Speaker 1: dollars a gallon here? What is it in North Carolina?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, according to gas Buddy this morning, it's two dollars

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Speaker 9: and fifty nine cents a gallon, which is a pretty

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Speaker 9: big drop from where we were just even last month.

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Speaker 9: You know, when prices are coming down. President Trump has

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Speaker 9: unleashed American energy and we are seeing the fruits of

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Speaker 9: that right now. And it really truly matters when you

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Speaker 9: talk about the economy. Gasoline and diesel prices really truly

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Speaker 9: do dictate a lot of our grocery prices, retail prices,

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Speaker 9: in other prices that we're going to see, and so

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Speaker 9: the number one influence when it comes to inflation is

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Speaker 9: going to be what the gas prices are. And that's

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Speaker 9: why we've seen inflation prices come down so dramatically since

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Speaker 9: President Trump took over.

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Speaker 1: Last question in North Carolina, I got my in laws,

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Speaker 1: my son's in laws live in Winston Salem, and it's

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Speaker 1: still affordable in Winston Salem. You can find a house,

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Speaker 1: you can find an apartment in Winston sale What about

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Speaker 1: the state as a whole, Charlotte's Booman. What is it

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Speaker 1: for a young couple looking to get places to buy

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Speaker 1: or rent?

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Speaker 9: Well, Look, what I will say is this the President Biden,

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Speaker 9: over the course of the four years that he was

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Speaker 9: in office, buying the exact same house costs twice as

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Speaker 9: much in twenty twenty four as it did in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 9: Housing prices are still way too high, and we need

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Speaker 9: to see the Fed drop the interest rate. I'm glad

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Speaker 9: that President Trump is fighting every single day with the

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Speaker 9: Fed to try and get those interest rates down. We

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Speaker 9: order to be able to help. But North Carolina is

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Speaker 9: still one of those states because of the Republican led legislature,

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Speaker 9: where our economy is strong. We are creating jobs and

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Speaker 9: wages are going up, and that really is going to

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Speaker 9: be a significant factor for anybody who wants to start

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Speaker 1: We will keep talking throughout the year. Michael Wattley good

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Speaker 1: luck all the way through November. Michael Wattley dot com.

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Speaker 1: a contribution, you get more asks. That's happens. But look

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Speaker 1: the country at the state here. Got to hold on

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Speaker 1: to the Senate. Thank you, mister chairman. I'll be right

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Speaker 1: back in America. Stay tuned to the quih Welcome to

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Speaker 1: hour three of the program today, whether you're watching on

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Speaker 1: the Sale News channel or listening to our affiliates all

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Speaker 1: across the United States. I want to watch Welcome, especially

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Speaker 1: are new affiliate in Pensacola, Florida. Among our regular guests

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Speaker 1: is Tennessee Senator Marsha Blackburn, who about this time next

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Speaker 1: year will be Tennessee Governor Marsha Blackburn. Because I think

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Speaker 1: she's going to win her race for governor there. Welcome, Senator.

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Speaker 1: Can I begin by asking for your reaction to the

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Speaker 1: operation app the resolve that President Trump ordered up over

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Speaker 1: the weekend in Venezuela.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, And when I talked to Tennessee and Hugh, they

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Speaker 10: are so pleased with President Donald Trump taking the action.

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Speaker 10: Nicholas Maduro has headed the cartel. He and his wife

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Speaker 10: have really been in charge of this operation. They've been

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Speaker 10: pushing these drugs into the United States. You've got hundreds

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Speaker 10: of thousands of individuals that have lost their lives, families

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Speaker 10: that have been adversely impacted, communities that have been torn apart.

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Speaker 10: This is a narco terrorist and it is appropriate that

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Speaker 10: he was apprehended and that he has been brought to

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Speaker 10: the US to face the charges that are in front

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Speaker 10: of him and to be held to account for what

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Speaker 10: he has done to hundreds of thousands of Americans.

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Speaker 1: Now, Senator, I taught your colleague yesterday, Senator, who's one

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Speaker 1: of the group of eight who gets warning when it's

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Speaker 1: appropriate of something like this going down? And there was

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Speaker 1: no advanced notice here and he was fine with that

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Speaker 1: because of the nature of the operation. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: it was a legal operation, and that Congress got adequate

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Speaker 1: notice when they received it.

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Speaker 10: I believe it was a proper operation, and I do

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Speaker 10: believe that the notice we received immediately after was sufficient.

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Speaker 10: President Donald Trump was right to go in and to

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Speaker 10: carry this out. I think that General Cain did a

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Speaker 10: good job of laying out the framework of this operation

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Speaker 10: and the fact that it was military and law enforcement.

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Speaker 10: And tomorrow we're going to have a briefing on this

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Speaker 10: and look forward to more details.

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Speaker 1: Now, Sentry Blackburn. Our friends in the left winging legacy media,

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Speaker 1: whether it's George stefan Anopolis on ABC or the New

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Speaker 1: York Times reporter today, are saying, what's it mean. You're

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Speaker 1: running it? You're not running it? And then Secretary of Rubiu,

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Speaker 1: your old colleague for many years, said we're not letting

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Speaker 1: any of the oil out. We've got leverage. And I

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Speaker 1: understand what the President means when he says we're running it.

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Speaker 1: We're not having a Paul Bremer in Caracas like we

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Speaker 1: did in Iraq, but we are running the show there

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Speaker 1: because they're not going to be able to sell. It's

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Speaker 1: like being in bankruptcy court and we're the bankruptcy judge.

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Speaker 1: Do they not understand or are they being willfully ignorant.

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Speaker 10: I when you look at the statements they have made

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Speaker 10: in years past about Maduro needing to be removed and

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Speaker 10: the issue in Venezuela being dealt with, and now they're

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Speaker 10: trying to do the flip flop, which they've become a

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Speaker 10: pro at anything that Donald Trump is for, they are

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Speaker 10: going to be against.

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Speaker 6: And you know you think it is as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I agree with you because I know what he means.

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Speaker 1: And an if I'm not looking for an immediate transformation,

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Speaker 1: I would like to get your estimate on how long

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Speaker 1: it will be till we see the kind of move

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Speaker 1: towards democracy. I'm thinking two years to get the transition

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Speaker 1: in place, and I think we've got agency people down there,

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Speaker 1: and we certainly have the armada to enforce the quarantine.

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Speaker 1: How long until you think we'll see real change that

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Speaker 1: Americans say, Ah, that's why we did that.

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Speaker 10: And I don't know the answer to that, because I'm

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Speaker 10: not sure anyone at this point knows the answer to

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Speaker 10: that question. What we do know is that we are

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Speaker 10: there to help stabilize, We are there to bring freedom.

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Speaker 10: We are not there to occupy and We certainly have

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Speaker 10: heard from Venezuelan's whether they are in Tennessee or Florida

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Speaker 10: or any of the other states. They are so excited

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Speaker 10: that they now have hope for stability in their country

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Speaker 10: and getting their country back on track and moving it

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Speaker 10: to productivity. And I have a friend that sent me

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Speaker 10: a text from one of his friends who is Venezuelan,

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Speaker 10: who said, now my daughter will have a future. And

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Speaker 10: so that is what people are looking toward. Exactly how

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Speaker 10: that is going to roll out. I don't think that

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Speaker 10: we can give you a solid answer to that right now,

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Speaker 10: because this is a situation that is developing, and even

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Speaker 10: though we live in an age where people want instant

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Speaker 10: gratification hughes, sometimes things.

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Speaker 6: Are going to take a little bit of time.

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Speaker 10: The good thing is we are there to help be

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Speaker 10: a stabilizing presence in this region.

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Speaker 1: And I think Secretary Rubio explained it perfectly. Well, they're

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Speaker 1: not going to tell you well unless we let them,

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Speaker 1: and we're not going to let them unless they move

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Speaker 1: towards reform. Now, Senator Blackburn, let's talk about becoming Governor Blackburn,

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Speaker 1: we have a problem in the United States, blue state fraud.

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Speaker 1: It's been in Minnesota most obviously uncovered. It's in New York.

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Speaker 1: I'm in California right now for a few weeks where

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Speaker 1: gas costs four and a half dollars a gallon, and

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Speaker 1: we had twenty billion dollars stolen from the COVID money

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Speaker 1: by prisoners in jail filing unemployment insurance claims. That we're honored.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Tennessee has got the kind of problem

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Speaker 1: that Minnesota, New York and California does? Is that what

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Speaker 1: you're looking forward to when you become governor?

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Speaker 10: You know, I think Tennessee is a well led, well

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Speaker 10: governed state, and this is why you see Tennessee being

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Speaker 10: one of those states where people want to move.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 10: One of the things that I think has been shocking

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Speaker 10: to people is when you look at Minnesota, you are

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Speaker 10: seeing such broad based fraud. And this is on children's

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Speaker 10: service programs. But when you begin to add two that

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Speaker 10: programs that deal with homelessness, with drug addiction, the way

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Speaker 10: some of these grants have been made to nonprofits.

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Speaker 6: You also in Mississippi today.

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Speaker 10: There is a jury that is being seeded that is

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Speaker 10: going to deal with fraud issues there.

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Speaker 6: You have some people that have pled guilty.

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Speaker 10: And someone else who is going to actually go to

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Speaker 10: trial on this. I think what we have seen is

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Speaker 10: this is just the tip of the iceberg when it

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Speaker 10: comes to fraud in so many of these government programs.

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Speaker 6: You know, when you look at healthcare. One of the.

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Speaker 10: Things we found in these plus Biden bonus COVID credits

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Speaker 10: was a tremendous amount of fraud in the Obamacare program.

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Speaker 6: You've got twenty.

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Speaker 10: Four million people and roll twelve million never used the program.

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Speaker 10: That is why President Trump is saying, let's stop sending

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Speaker 10: the money to the insurance company, send it to the individual,

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Speaker 10: send it.

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Speaker 6: Back to the content.

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Speaker 1: Is what a concept. So, Senator black Man, before we

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Speaker 1: run out of time, what is your website for the

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Speaker 1: governor's campaign? I want to make sure the audience, especially

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee, but across the United States, knows where they

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Speaker 1: can go to get news about the campaign, make a

1016
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Speaker 1: contribution to the campaign, follow the campaign. Where's the political website?

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Speaker 6: And that is Marsha Blackburn dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's easy, Marsha Blackburn dot com. Last question, Senator, the

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Speaker 1: Titans were awful, My Browns were awful. You know the haslums.

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Speaker 1: Can you guys work it out? So that the Browns

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Speaker 1: and the Titans get better.

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Speaker 10: I want to make certain that Tennessee has winning teams.

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Speaker 1: Senator Marcell Blackman, always a pleasure to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Don't go anywhere in America.

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Speaker 1: I'll be coming back with Byron York here on the

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Speaker 1: US Show. Welcome back. I'm you as Byron York is

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Speaker 1: with the Washington Examiner, is their chief correspondent. You can

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Speaker 1: read them daily over at Washington Examiner, dcexaminer dot com.

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Speaker 1: Actually Fox News contributor as well. Byron. It's been at

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Speaker 1: least forty eight hours since we got some of the

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Speaker 1: details in Venezuela. What do you make of the assessments,

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Speaker 1: not of the operation, it was brilliant, but of the

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Speaker 1: assessments of the operation that we're now seeing in legacy media.

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Speaker 1: They're saying nothing has changed as bad as before.

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Speaker 8: Well, that you mean nothing nothing has changed in Venezuela,

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Speaker 8: correct as or well? Obviously the administration has been saying,

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Speaker 8: you know what we want to do. We're not going

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Speaker 8: to run every single bit of every office Venezuela. That's

1039
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Speaker 8: not what Trump means by running. We're going to make

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Speaker 8: it more pro American and we're going to ensure that

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Speaker 8: they stop the drug trafficking, that they stop the mass migration,

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Speaker 8: and we get rid of foreign influences a hostile to

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Speaker 8: the United States in Venezuela. So I think it's way

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Speaker 8: too early to say that that has happened. Now, who's

1045
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Speaker 8: going to be in charge of the police. Is there

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Speaker 8: going to be an election to stand someone up quickly?

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I will say I think that for

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Speaker 8: the President's sake, they should do what they're doing quickly,

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Speaker 8: because if they're messing with this six months from now,

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Speaker 8: it's going to be they're going to be one in

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Speaker 8: the middle of midterm season and two open to charges

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Speaker 8: of nation building, which would be a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: So Byron, the representative post I've taken to stand in

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Speaker 1: for all of legacy media, and I do mean television,

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Speaker 1: news and radio and columnists is Lulu of The New

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Speaker 1: York Times. Lulu Navarro. Earlier today she posted speaking do

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Speaker 1: people I know inside Venezuela, They tell me arm gangs

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Speaker 1: parens basically paramilitary gangs. Well I to the government are

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Speaker 1: roaming the streets. Arrests of journalists are taking place, and

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Speaker 1: the new old government is undergoing a wave of repression.

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Speaker 1: Is this what the US means by being in control?

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Speaker 1: How do you react to that? I'll give you a

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Speaker 1: second take afterwards, but that's legacy media at its finest.

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Speaker 8: Well, look, I don't know what's happening on the streets

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Speaker 8: of Venezuela right now, do you. I mean no, really

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Speaker 8: don't have a good feel of what's going on in

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Speaker 8: the streets of Venezuela right now. So I'm not going

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Speaker 8: to say that any report is false or overdone. But

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Speaker 8: I do know what American officials are saying there are

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Speaker 8: and what they plan to do, and I do know

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Speaker 8: it can't be done in the forty eight hours we've

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Speaker 8: been talking about now.

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Speaker 1: The second take, which I found in news item by

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Speaker 1: John Ellis this morning, is from an immigration lawyer in

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Speaker 1: New York, Eva Golnger, and she wrote, this is just

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Speaker 1: a simple overview. The government in Venezuela has been comprised

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Speaker 1: of several groups. They have a power sharing pact. They

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Speaker 1: control different sectors of the apparatus, security, military, Pueblo Collectivo's institution, judiciary, oil, industry, business, etc.

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Speaker 1: One of those groups, Delci and her brother Horge, have

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Speaker 1: now taken power through a meticulous and evil genius negotiation

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Speaker 1: with the Trump administration that has been going on for

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Speaker 1: months behind the scenes. Note that the new indictment against

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Speaker 1: Maduro and Cilia includes both Maduro's son and Dioso Dado.

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Speaker 1: That is purposely to put them on alert that they

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Speaker 1: are next should they betray their Ariga siblings. CIA is

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Speaker 1: now operating inside Venezuela and can execute another extraordinary rendition

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Speaker 1: at any time on Trump's orders. DELCIA has allowed to

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Speaker 1: man in permitting them to stay. The US Embassy is returning,

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Speaker 1: along with all of it's intel and military support, and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more. I posted over at my ex account.

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Speaker 1: I have no way of knowing if that's true either,

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Speaker 1: but you know, that's a completely different view of what's

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Speaker 1: going on, which is more like Kadafi two thousand and

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Speaker 1: three than it is. The New York Times reporter saying

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Speaker 1: I've talked to people in New York and repression is happening.

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I mean sorry, I'm the guest who

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Speaker 8: knows nothing.

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Speaker 1: You and I are, We're equal.

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Speaker 8: We're together on this one.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 8: I simply don't know what's happening on the ground in Venezuela.

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Speaker 8: We you know, the United States has just swooped in

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Speaker 8: and taken the president, decapitated the government, and begun some

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Speaker 8: number of measures to insert new control over it and

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Speaker 8: appoint some sort of new leadership in the relatively near future.

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Speaker 8: But I have no idea. I would expect that's a

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Speaker 8: pretty disquieting series of events in Venezuela, which was pretty

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Speaker 8: much lawless on the government side anyway. So I have

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Speaker 8: no idea.

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Speaker 1: So what I do know is what Rubio told Stephanopoulos

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Speaker 1: three times on Sunday. We have a quarantine on their

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Speaker 1: oil that gives us leverage. So unless they make changes,

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Speaker 1: they will sell no oil before it's time. It's like

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Speaker 1: the old Gallo Wine ad. That means Cuba and China

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Speaker 1: are in a world of hurt, and also mean Iran,

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Speaker 1: which is falling apart as we speak, can't be exporting

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Speaker 1: as much oil as it wants to. That hurts China

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Speaker 1: as well. So taken as a whole, has the world

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Speaker 1: improved for freedom from a year ago?

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Speaker 8: From a year ago?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I would yeah, I would think so absolutely.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 8: First of all, you have the Iranian nuclear program is

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Speaker 8: been obliterated, and to use Trump's words, something, if not obliterated,

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Speaker 8: dark to it. So I think that's a positive right there.

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Speaker 8: And I think the United States has made clear this

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Speaker 8: whole you know, this whole Trump corollary of the Monroe

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Speaker 8: administration in November. You can read it. It's it's pretty

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Speaker 8: pretty clear, uh, and it really paves the way for

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Speaker 8: what's just been done in Venezuela. So I do think

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Speaker 8: things are better. Obviously, the war on Ukraine has not stopped.

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Speaker 8: The war in Gaza sort of has, but so I

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Speaker 8: think on net net it's in the better shape.

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Speaker 1: And the border is closed US.

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Speaker 8: Mexico border absolutely, and.

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Speaker 1: Four point three percent GDP in quarter three. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of all these tariffs, but

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Speaker 1: I'm also not as skeptical as some iologically absolutist free traders,

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Speaker 1: and so I step back and say, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how anyone can say Trump hadn't had a good first year.

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Speaker 1: I think he's had a great first year, Byron, and.

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Speaker 8: I think it's yeah, I think it's very positive. And

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Speaker 8: I do think you're right about the four point three

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Speaker 8: percent GDP that was, like you know, every economic story

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Speaker 8: about Trump on the newsday has the awards unexpected in

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Speaker 8: it because they never expect GDP to get better. They

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Speaker 8: never expect inflation to stay the same or go down

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Speaker 8: because they're expecting bad things. And all of the calamitous

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Speaker 8: predictions after the tariffs have just not really come to pass. Yes,

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Speaker 8: the tariffs have increased prices in some areas, there's no

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Speaker 8: doubt about that, but nothing like the things that were

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Speaker 8: predicted before, which was basically the democratic refrain of he's

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Speaker 8: crashing the economy. Go back to late March and April

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Speaker 8: that they said it over and over and over again,

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Speaker 8: he's crashing the economy.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with that with four percent four point three

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Speaker 1: percent growth. Last question Byron. They also never account for

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Speaker 1: substitutionary goods. Some goods are impacted by terrorists, but you

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Speaker 1: don't have to buy them. There's always a substitute for

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Speaker 1: them made in America. I really, except for bananas and coffee.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we don't make there or people

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Speaker 1: can't choose. I just don't know. Well, we're out of time.

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Speaker 1: Byron ne York. Always a pleasure to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: I have so much to cover with you. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to move fast. First of all, my memory is

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Speaker 1: failing me. But on the huge cruise that you were

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Speaker 1: kind enough to come on, we call it the Cold Cruise.

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Speaker 1: It was a Caribbean cruise and it was about fifty

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Speaker 1: degrees out there. Did we or did we not stop

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Speaker 1: at an island in Venezuela. We did not stop at

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Speaker 1: an island.

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Speaker 11: We stopped at a place off the Honduras and we

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Speaker 11: went and we you know, faft around with with dolphins.

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Speaker 6: But no, I don't believe that we did.

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Speaker 1: I thought we went to Cardahanga is Carda Hania partner.

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Speaker 11: I would love to be able to say that I've

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Speaker 11: been to Venezuela and just count that little one stop there,

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Speaker 11: but I don't believe. So I will check my records

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Speaker 11: and then I'll get back to you. Is that the

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Speaker 11: only time you've been to Venezuela? Yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 11: That might not.

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Speaker 1: It's not even Venezuela.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, No, Cartaga is Columbia. And that was on the

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Speaker 11: U crew that was on the Panama cruise.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, So did you go on

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Speaker 1: that one?

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Speaker 2: I did, don't you remember?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember anything, James.

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Speaker 2: Which would not have been Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: There are twenty five different cruises. They all kind of

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Speaker 1: cruised together, the U Cruises cruise. Yes, well, I wouldn't know.

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't know, Hugh, because I haven't been on any

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Speaker 11: of your cruises lately. I stopped at two for some reason.

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Speaker 11: It may have been that unfortunate example, you know, instance

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Speaker 11: in the bar that night that got me blacklisted. But

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Speaker 11: we can talk about you. Well, that's not for the radio.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Second question, Denmark has appealed for a meeting with

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Rubio for Greenland. You think that's well advised

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Speaker 1: on their part.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm not exactly sure.

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Speaker 11: Ruby has got an awful lot in this plate right now,

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Speaker 11: and they might want to remind him that, in addition

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Speaker 11: to being in charge of Venezuela and several of the things,

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Speaker 11: he probably doesn't want to take Venezuela doesn't want to

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Speaker 11: take Greenland onto his plate. But I you know, I'm

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Speaker 11: drawing the line at annex in Greenland.

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Speaker 2: I really am.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 11: I've been all for these muscular strikes that decapitate the

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Speaker 11: Iranian nuclear facilities and do what they did in Venezuela.

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Speaker 11: But the idea of somehow of gathering the huge bouncey

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Speaker 11: of Greenland into the national arms, I'm not quite there.

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Speaker 1: I'm all in favor it. Did you ever read Red

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Speaker 1: Storm Rising when Tom Clancy was in his of his power.

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Speaker 1: Remember when John Clark drossed on the it was Greenland

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Speaker 1: or Iceland? I get him confused. But John Clark dropped

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Speaker 1: there and set up the station where we intercepted all

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Speaker 1: the Reskies.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 11: Well, I tend to think that we could probably get

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Speaker 11: what we wanted out of there in terms of military

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Speaker 11: strategy and the communic case of a pinch without.

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Speaker 2: Actually making it the fifty first flag.

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Speaker 11: We can loose the American economy in other ways, rather

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Speaker 11: than pausing everybody to go out and get a different flag,

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Speaker 11: because everybody now would have to go out and get

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Speaker 11: a different flag because it would have another star.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you did it in Minnesota. You just put

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Speaker 1: up a new flag in Minnesota. I'm coming there. That's

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Speaker 1: my fourth point. I'm going to get to the Have

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Speaker 1: you got the new flag?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I've got the old flag.

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Speaker 11: I'm that much of a reventious I'm that much of

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Speaker 11: a traditionalist that I actually have the old flag castigated

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Speaker 11: by all for it's bad messages, but yes I do,

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Speaker 11: and it's right next to my one with five oh

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Speaker 11: count them five o stars.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to make Greenland esteak that can be

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Speaker 1: like Puerto Rico, a commonwealth, And we just want to

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Speaker 1: keep the chi Coms out of our two hundred mile

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Speaker 1: national waters. If they're going to come up with the

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Speaker 1: nine dash line for the waters off China for the

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Speaker 1: China Sea. We need Greenland and we can keep them out.

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Speaker 1: That's why we need Greenland. I don't think we need Gleenland.

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Speaker 11: We can probably do it without angering everybody there and

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Speaker 11: confirming the worst suspicions.

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Speaker 2: That everybody has of it.

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Speaker 11: Usually, I don't care if our worse subbicions are confirmed,

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Speaker 11: because it means that we're feared as opposed to being

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Speaker 11: you know, doormat.

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Speaker 2: But this is just an unforced error.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I want Greenland. We must part ways here.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about legacy media and Venezuela. Are they

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Speaker 1: that dumb? Are they simply ignorant? Or are they deceitful

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Speaker 1: because they keep saying they don't know what it means

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Speaker 1: to run Venezuela the way we are running Venezuela is,

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Speaker 1: which is as a bankruptcy judge runs a company in bankruptcy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right.

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Speaker 11: I mean there's a lot of moving parts here, are

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Speaker 11: a lot of clogging blogging parts that have to be

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Speaker 11: made of heavy oil. So no, I don't trust anybody

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Speaker 11: actually in the media to be able to get wrap

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Speaker 11: their hands around this. I expect them to touch tutt

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Speaker 11: and cluck cluck, And unfortunately, in this case, you know,

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01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 11: it's sort of hard to touch up and cluck cluck

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Speaker 11: a lot when the guy is so manifestly unpopular and

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01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 11: has done so many bad things, bad things, and when

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Speaker 11: you impress upon them to the fact that are on

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Speaker 11: in China and Russia or no, on their backfoot because

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Speaker 11: of what we did there, and it was a pretty

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Speaker 11: good geopolitical move and shows that America is back baby,

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Speaker 11: and the rest of it it doesn't, you know, Either

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 11: they just shut up and slink away, or they make

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Speaker 11: some argument about legality. And I always loved the legality

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Speaker 11: argument because the idea that the world is governed by

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Speaker 11: words instead of the blade of the sword is a

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Speaker 11: nice little fiction that we still inherit from the nineteen

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Speaker 11: nineties of the Oughts.

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Speaker 1: But tats so I politically convenient. Now my last question,

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Speaker 1: my last question for the segment. Did you get any

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Speaker 1: of the money in Minnesota? Are you the only guy

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Speaker 1: that missed it?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 11: I actually have declared I think seven point eight million

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Speaker 11: dollars since the year two thousand and when I began

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Speaker 11: a daycare here in my house. Now, when I say

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Speaker 11: a daycare in my house, I mean I was taking

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Speaker 11: care of my daughter after she was born and continued

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Speaker 11: to do so for eighteen years. I figured that that

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Speaker 11: probably qualifies as a daycare. So, you know, I haven't

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Speaker 11: put in for it yet, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to try retroactively. It might not be a good

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Speaker 1: time to try retroactively. Maybe not. Do you think Governor

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Speaker 1: Walls quit because he wanted to focus on governing? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know that's right.

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Speaker 2: I am so devoted to the practice of brain surgery.

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Speaker 11: I'm chopping off both of my hands and dashing.

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Speaker 1: On both my eyes.

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Speaker 2: No, of course not.

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Speaker 11: He saw the polls and the party gave a nice

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Speaker 11: little shove because behind him, if Amy Klobshar is actually

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Speaker 11: going to fill the role, is one of the most

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Speaker 11: trusted politicians I think at the state. And Amy Klobshar

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Speaker 11: is going to run, That's what I'm hearing. Going to

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Speaker 11: swapp her in and something like that.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Oh but then no, may be wrong, but nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to work for her.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes they do, Yes they do.

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Speaker 11: It's the little millennials who don't like a comb throw

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Speaker 11: them into the thrown at them because they forgot to

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Speaker 11: do something promptly and have to go off and cry

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Speaker 11: on Tumblr. No, No, people like to work for her

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Speaker 11: because she's generally smart and no nonsense. And I mean

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Speaker 11: there are worse people to work for in Washington, to

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Speaker 11: believe me.

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Speaker 1: But I know that if she runs, that means no

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Speaker 1: one will know any of the senators in Minnesota. Right now,

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Speaker 1: they know who Amy Klobear is. Yes, Smith is.

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Speaker 11: The unless of course they put unless, of course they

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Speaker 11: put Tim Watson the spot in the Senator.

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Speaker 1: In the Senator, they just move around like that. That

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Speaker 1: would be that would give Maria Harono a run for money. Actually,

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Speaker 1: if they put yeah, I'm just not sure where that's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. James, it's good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: I want everyone to keep it abroad with John Clark

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Speaker 1: doing Tom Clancy like mission, I would like everyone to know.

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Speaker 1: You can go to James Lys dot substack dot com,

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Speaker 1: follow him on exit Liles James Lys dot substack dot com.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out about his application for childcare status next

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Speaker 1: week on the user j just too