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Speaker 1: There knowing, Hey, everybody, thanks so much for joining us

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Speaker 1: right here on the right view. Tonight, we're joined by

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Speaker 1: Michigan's own and the host of the Tutor Dixon Podcast,

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon. Tudor, welcome back. We love having you on Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Obviously your home state. We saw so much happen in

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Speaker 1: So tell me where you think Michigan and Michiganders stand

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Speaker 1: biggest issues are that people in that state are concerned about,

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Speaker 1: especially as we're heading towards those midterms. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, first I want to say, I really do believe

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Speaker 3: elections go. I believe that's what happened in twenty sixteen. Ye,

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Speaker 3: And when you ask how people feel about the president

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing what happens when you actually are allowed,

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the takeaways that everybody had, of course,

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, all the leftists can set this

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Speaker 3: And that guy was wrong. That guy was wrong, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's it's very refreshing. And look, there's

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Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, I would like to say I believe, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well said exactly right before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: Amen to that, well, tutor, We appreciate all that you're doing.

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Speaker 4: Eric.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Cross completely failed that first year, and and so I

436
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Speaker 4: tried to I first tried to get some friends out.

437
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Speaker 4: I have a bunch of Ukrainian friends, and then I

438
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Speaker 4: just started helping with the Manitaring aid.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well, under siege is a topic we're very familiar

440
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Speaker 1: with the name of my husband's book. But give me

441
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Speaker 1: sort of the what you saw on the ground there

442
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Speaker 1: that led you to want to produce a faith under siege.

443
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Speaker 4: Yeah, after that first year, I started, you know, I listen.

444
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Speaker 4: I used to be a chief of staff on Capito Hill.

445
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Speaker 4: I got a lot of friends are still and so

446
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Speaker 4: I would talk to my conservative friends in America and

447
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Speaker 4: my friends at Capitol Hill, and they would be telling

448
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Speaker 4: me things that were starkly different than what I saw

449
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Speaker 4: on the ground. And so I was like, you know

450
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Speaker 4: so much, you do something about this, because there's not

451
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Speaker 4: good information getting to conservatives, to Republicans, to Christians in America,

452
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Speaker 4: at least not information that was you know, that was

453
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Speaker 4: it was different than what I was seeing on the ground.

454
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Speaker 4: So so I started trying to get good information at folks.

455
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Speaker 4: And one of the things that happened was I was

456
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Speaker 4: in a co working facility in Kiev, kind of like

457
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Speaker 4: a we work, and this guy comes with me. He said, Hi,

458
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Speaker 4: my name is Victor. I'm an evangelical Christian. It's like,

459
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Speaker 4: all right, dude, you're a little bit more evangelical than

460
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Speaker 4: a lot of our evangel Christians.

461
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Speaker 2: What you got?

462
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Speaker 4: And so Victor goes on to tell me how in

463
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Speaker 4: two thousand and four to he was in a city

464
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Speaker 4: called luke Hans, Ukraine that was being occupied by the

465
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Speaker 4: Russians at that time, and he was getting groups out, families,

466
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Speaker 4: you know, and that sort of thing.

467
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Speaker 2: And one day he was taking.

468
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Speaker 4: A group out that included a newborn and a pregnant woman,

469
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Speaker 4: and the Russians pulled him over. They pulled him out

470
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Speaker 4: of his truck and took him to the basement, and

471
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Speaker 4: what this means taking someone of the basement is a

472
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Speaker 4: euphemism for torture. And so he was in the basement

473
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Speaker 4: for twenty five days and including one day when he

474
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Speaker 4: was praying with his cell mate and a Russian Orthodox

475
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Speaker 4: priest walked by and said, you're not Orthodox, are you?

476
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Speaker 4: And Victor, of course, we learned, is very forward with

477
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Speaker 4: his faith faith, and Victor says, no, sir, I'm an

478
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Speaker 4: evangelical Christian. So they took him out of a cell,

479
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Speaker 4: took him to the torture room, strapped him to a chair,

480
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Speaker 4: and tased him with electricity while the Russian Orthodox priest

481
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Speaker 4: tried to cast demons out of him for being an

482
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Speaker 4: evangelical Christian. Yeah, I heard this, and I'm having your reaction. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 4: it's just crazy.

484
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty clear. You know, I think a

485
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Speaker 1: lot of people. First of all, I appreciate Stephen so

486
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Speaker 1: much that you physically went to a place, because I

487
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Speaker 1: love the way you say it's very different on the

488
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Speaker 1: ground than kind of what people assume. And I've had

489
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Speaker 1: that experience with a lot in my life. I think

490
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Speaker 1: a lot of us in our family probably have. When

491
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Speaker 1: you go experience something it's a lot different than how

492
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Speaker 1: people from the outside might view it. And so I

493
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Speaker 1: give you a lot of credit for going there, for

494
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Speaker 1: actually physically being on the ground. But I think a

495
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Speaker 1: lot of people looked at what was going on over

496
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Speaker 1: in Ukraine and they said, oh, well, this is just

497
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Speaker 1: a geopolitical conflict. But it sounds like that may be

498
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Speaker 1: the moment where it was pretty clear to you this

499
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Speaker 1: was actually more of a war on faith as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: Tonight we're joined by founder of Ukraine Freedom Project and

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Speaker 1: executive producer of A Faith under Siege, Russia's Hidden war

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Speaker 1: on Ukraine's Christians, Steven Moore. Steven, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. You're your former Republican House Chief of Staff,

506
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Speaker 1: so you know that's not typically the resume you see

507
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Speaker 1: of someone who completely packs up and moves into a

508
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Speaker 1: war zone. You usually kind of hang around DC. So

509
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Speaker 1: give us a bit about your background and how you

510
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Speaker 1: actually ended up in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I got to tell you.

512
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Speaker 4: I get there on day five of the war, and

513
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Speaker 4: the line to get into Ukraine was a lot shorter

514
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Speaker 4: than the line to get out, and so you know,

515
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Speaker 4: here's what I like to do. You know, a lot

516
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Speaker 4: of people talk about foreign policy, a lot of people

517
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Speaker 4: write papers. I'm into first hand foreign policy. I want

518
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Speaker 4: to go and look for myself as to what's going on.

519
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Speaker 4: So I don't want to talk about anything that I've

520
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Speaker 4: heard secondhand or you know that sort of thing. So

521
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Speaker 4: everything that I talk about is stuff I've seen myself.

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Speaker 2: I've i've you know, from a good source.

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Speaker 4: From someone I know, and I got their day five

524
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Speaker 4: of the war.

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Speaker 2: Started doing.

526
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Speaker 4: Humanitarian work because the international community really fell short that

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Speaker 4: first year.

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Speaker 2: You and the International Committee of Red.

529
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Speaker 4: Cross completely failed that first year, and so I tried

530
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Speaker 4: to I first tried to get some friends out. I

531
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Speaker 4: have a bunch of Ukrainian friends, and then I just

532
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Speaker 4: started helping with the Manitaring aid.

533
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Speaker 1: Wow, well, under siege is a topic. We're very familiar

534
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Speaker 1: with the name of my husband's book. But give me

535
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Speaker 1: sort of the what you saw on the ground there

536
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Speaker 1: that led you to want to produce a faith under siege.

537
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Speaker 4: Yeah, after that first year, I started, you know, I listen,

538
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Speaker 4: I used to be a chief of staff on Capitolhill.

539
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Speaker 4: I get a lot of friends there are still and

540
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Speaker 4: so I would talk to my conservative friends in America

541
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Speaker 4: and my friends at Capitol Hill, and they would be

542
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: telling me things that were starkly different than what I

543
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: saw on the ground. And so I was like, you

544
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Speaker 4: know so much, you do something about this, because there's

545
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Speaker 4: not good information getting to conservatives, to republic, because to

546
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Speaker 4: Christians in America at least, not information that was you know,

547
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Speaker 4: that was it was different than what I was seeing

548
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Speaker 4: on the ground. So so I started trying to get

549
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Speaker 4: good information at folks. And one of the things that

550
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Speaker 4: happened was I was in a co working facility in Kiev,

551
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Speaker 4: kind of like a we work and this guy comes

552
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Speaker 4: with me. He said, Hi, my name is Victor. I'm

553
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Speaker 4: an evangelical Christian. It's like, all right, dude, you're a

554
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Speaker 4: little bit more evangelical than a lot of our evangelal Christians.

555
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Speaker 2: What you got?

556
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Speaker 4: And so Victor goes on to tell me how in

557
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Speaker 4: two thousand and four he was in a city called

558
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Speaker 4: lu Hansk in eastern Ukraine that was being occupied by

559
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Speaker 4: the Russians at that time, and he was getting groups out, families,

560
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Speaker 4: you know, and that sort of thing.

561
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Speaker 2: And one day he was taking.

562
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Speaker 4: A group out that included a newborn, a pregnant woman,

563
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Speaker 4: and the Russians pulled him over. They pulled him out

564
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Speaker 4: of his truck and took him to the basement. And

565
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Speaker 4: what this means taking some of the basement is a

566
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Speaker 4: euphemism for torture. And so he was in the basement

567
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Speaker 4: for twenty five days and including one day when he

568
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Speaker 4: was praying with his cell mate and a Russian Orthodox

569
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: priest walked by and said, you're not Orthodox, are you?

570
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Speaker 4: And Victor, of course, we learned, is very forward with

571
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Speaker 4: his faith faith, and Victor says, no, sir, I'm an

572
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Speaker 4: evangelic Christian. So they took him out of a cell,

573
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Speaker 4: took him to the torture room, strapped him to a chair,

574
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Speaker 4: and tased him with electricity while the Russian Orthodox priest

575
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Speaker 4: tried to cast demons out of him for being an

576
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Speaker 4: evangelical Christian. Yeah, I heard this, and I'm having your reaction. Yeah,

577
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Speaker 4: it's just crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty clear. You know, I think a

579
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Speaker 1: lot of people. First of all, I appreciate Stephens so

580
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Speaker 1: much that you physically went to a place because I

581
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Speaker 1: love the way you say. It's very different on the

582
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Speaker 1: ground than kind of what people assume. And I've had

583
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Speaker 1: that experience with a lot in my life. I think

584
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Speaker 1: a lot of us in our family probably have. When

585
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Speaker 1: you go experience something, it's a lot different than how

586
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Speaker 1: people from the outside might view it. And so I

587
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Speaker 1: give you a lot of credit for going there, for

588
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Speaker 1: actually physically being on the ground. But I think a

589
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Speaker 1: lot of people looked at what was going on over

590
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Speaker 1: in Ukraine and they said, oh, well, this is just

591
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Speaker 1: a geopolitical conflict. But it sounds like that may be

592
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Speaker 1: the moment where it was pretty clear to you this

593
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Speaker 1: was actually more of a war on faith as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely true.

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Speaker 4: This is either Russian Orthodox Church is not a church

596
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Speaker 4: like you and I would think of one. It is

597
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Speaker 4: a working arm of the Kremlin, and they have declared

598
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Speaker 4: a holy war on Ukraine and the West. And Laura,

599
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Speaker 4: I don't know where you go to church, but my

600
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Speaker 4: pastor didn't declare a holy war on anyone last Sunday.

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Speaker 4: And so just yesterday the Patriarch, their version of Patriarch

602
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Speaker 4: Hero declared that Patriarch Bartholomew, who is the leader of

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Speaker 4: the Orthodox Church representing hundreds of millions of Worzox Christians

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Speaker 4: all over the world. So Patriarch Caro called him the

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Speaker 4: anti christ. So this is a spiritual war that we're in.

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Speaker 4: And I think if you look at all our adversaries, Russia, Iran, China,

607
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Speaker 4: and North Korea, what do they all have in common?

608
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Speaker 4: They're dark, godless countries and there is a just a shadow,

609
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Speaker 4: a spiritual shadow in these places. They don't value human life,

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Speaker 4: and that's what we're up against.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it feels like that spiritual battle has been

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Speaker 1: going on really worldwide. I mean, I know that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have felt that here in the United

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Speaker 1: States in a different context obviously than this, but it's

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Speaker 1: pretty clear if you kind of just take a step

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Speaker 1: back and look at the world, as you're saying, there

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Speaker 1: has been this big spiritual battle, this back and forth

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Speaker 1: between what truly feels like good versus evil. And it's

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Speaker 1: not limited to the United States. It is all over

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Speaker 1: the world. So I appreciate you bringing that kind of

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Speaker 1: to the forefront and making people aware of that. Give

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Speaker 1: people though, an idea about what maybe happens to pastors,

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Speaker 1: to priests and generally ordinary believers when Russian forces take

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Speaker 1: control of the town. How is life different for Christians

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Speaker 1: living under this occupation? Maybe in Kiev, for example, there

626
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Speaker 1: must be some very egregious things that happen.

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Speaker 4: Well in Kiev life. You know that Kiev is trolled

628
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Speaker 4: controlled by the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians, you know, you can

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Speaker 4: pray however you want. You know, there's so the Ukrainians.

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Speaker 4: You know, every faith that you might imagine is in Ukraine.

631
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Speaker 4: And you know, and there's no problems. But where the

632
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Speaker 4: problem is is the Russian territory, where the Russian occupied territory.

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Speaker 4: There's three point five million people, and probably about three

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Speaker 4: million of those are are Christians that are in occupied Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: And when a UH, and when the Russians come in

636
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Speaker 4: they meet UH. There's actually four percent of Ukraine is

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Speaker 4: Evangelical Protestants, and Baptist is the third largest denomination in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's Orthodox.

639
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Speaker 4: Then there's about twelve percent Catholic, and then Baptist is

640
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Speaker 4: the next largest denomination. So a Russian soldier meets a

641
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Speaker 4: Baptist pastor and he says, oh, this is an American religion.

642
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Speaker 4: You must be an agent of the CIA, like our

643
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: guys are agents of the Kremlin. And so they will

644
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Speaker 4: arrest them, they will interrogate them, sometimes they will torture them.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they will murder them, and there's been about eighty

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Speaker 4: pastors and priests who have been killed by the Russians

647
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Speaker 4: because again, Patriarch Herald, the Russian Pope, has declared a

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Speaker 4: holy war in Ukraine, so his followers in the Russian

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Speaker 4: military are chilling pastors and priests that are not Orthodox.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean, I don't think people even

651
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Speaker 1: had the faintest idea that this sort of thing was

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Speaker 1: happening out there. So it's an important topic though, because

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Speaker 1: we're hopeful to see ann to this war. We know

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Speaker 1: that there have been multiple piece talks. We saw President

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Speaker 1: Zelenski visit President Trump down at mar A Lago not

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Speaker 1: long ago. There's been a lot of communication. But as

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Speaker 1: we're hopeful to head towards Keith, what do you think

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Speaker 1: Americans need to understand about what's actually at stake for

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Speaker 1: faith communities and occupied Ukraine Because the scope of this

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Speaker 1: is much bigger than just Russia maybe taking control over

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Speaker 1: a plot of lands. There's more at stake.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's not a plot of land. It's Christians,

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Speaker 4: people like you and me who cannot go to church

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Speaker 4: because there's a Russian soldier standing in front of their

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Speaker 4: church or it's been completely destroyed. Something that folks do

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Speaker 4: not know is that there's a town called mary Ople

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Speaker 4: which is currently occupied, and part of it is controlled

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Speaker 4: by a Muslim warlord and named he's a Chechen warlord

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Speaker 4: from his name is Kadir ofv And they have destroyed

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Speaker 4: almost every church in Mariople, and they have rebuilt the mosque,

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Speaker 4: and they're bringing they're shipping out and this is classic

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Speaker 4: Soviet stuff, right, They're shipping out the local people to Siberia.

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Speaker 4: This is true, this is still happening. And they're bringing

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Speaker 4: in Muslims from Chechnya because they've you know, it's it's

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Speaker 4: a jihot, he calls so kadeir Off calls it a

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Speaker 4: h a Muslim Orthodox jihad.

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Speaker 2: And this is happening in Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: And so so the more so these are people that

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Speaker 4: are currently in occupied Ukraine. They can't go to church.

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Speaker 4: They're being replaced by Muslims and they you know, and

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Speaker 4: and it's a crime to have a Bible study in

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Speaker 4: your home and if you get caught, you could be

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Speaker 4: tortured and spend time in a Russian prison. So nobody

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Speaker 4: wants that. Nobody in Ukraine wants to live under a

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Speaker 4: Russian rule, nobody, we've pulled it. Ninety nine point two

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Speaker 4: percent of the other way point zero point eight percent

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Speaker 4: of Ukrainians say they would prefer to live in a

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Speaker 4: Russian rule, which is about three hundred thousand people. So

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Speaker 4: let's find apartments for those people in Moscow. Yes, But

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Speaker 4: because the Russians just do the worst things in the

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Speaker 4: world to the Ukrainians.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's it's it's absolutely wild. So if there's one message,

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Speaker 1: one overall theme that you want, especially people of faith,

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Speaker 1: to take away from a faith under siege, what would

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Speaker 1: that be.

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Speaker 4: Well, we are in a spiritual war. We're in a

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Speaker 4: global war. You know, all the bad guys are working together, Russia, Iran, China,

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Speaker 4: North Korea. And it's important for Americans to realize this

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Speaker 4: because Americans believe that peace and prosperity is their birthright

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Speaker 4: and it can go away really quickly. And it's gone

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Speaker 4: away and occupied Ukraine. So these are people like us.

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Speaker 4: And I want to say one quick thing about the

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Speaker 4: Ukrainian people I work with. You know, there's nine hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand people in the Ukrainian military. All of them were

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Speaker 4: doing something else. On February twenty three, twenty third twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two, when the Russians invaded. Everybody this is a

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Speaker 4: great Second Amendment story. They just grab rifles and ran

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Speaker 4: towards the Russians. And you know, I mean, you've got

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Speaker 4: you speaking pilates, I know your shre it's a plate shirt,

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Speaker 4: you know my you know, so my friends, yoga teachers.

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Speaker 2: At the front.

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Speaker 4: You've got pastors, and at the front, you've got you know,

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Speaker 4: auto body repairment engineers, lawyers, and these are just people

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Speaker 4: that's like, look, the Russians are going to kill us.

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Speaker 4: I need to stop this and I need to defend

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Speaker 4: my family. And so it's a what you don't hear

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Speaker 4: about is just the fight for freedom of the Ukrainian people.

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Speaker 4: And you know, these are Christian people, and you know

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Speaker 4: they're not putting up with shutting down churches.

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Speaker 1: I mean, good for them, Good for them for picking

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Speaker 1: up and going into battle, because quite frankly, this war

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Speaker 1: could have just ended very quickly had they not, had

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Speaker 1: they not had the right that drive to protect their

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Speaker 1: their country, their home, their families, et cetera. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I hear President Trump say it all the time, but

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Speaker 1: I think we all feel this way. We want the

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Speaker 1: killing to stop, because it's not just the Ukrainians who

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Speaker 1: are being killed, it's the Russian soldiers who it seems

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Speaker 1: like Vladimir Putin has absolutely no regard for life whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: He's just sending these kids in and they are kids,

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Speaker 1: they're so young, so many of them, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: brutal stuff. We wanted to end, and obviously, for you know,

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Speaker 1: Christians around the world, we certainly want this spiritual warfare

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Speaker 1: to end. But I always believe that if you maintain faith,

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Speaker 1: good always triumphs over evil, and we're obviously very hopeful

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Speaker 1: to see that happen in this case. So, Stephen, where

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Speaker 1: can people check out your work? Where can people find

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Speaker 1: more information on all of this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we've got a whole series of films.

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Speaker 4: The main one is a Faith under Siege is about

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Speaker 4: an hour long. It's been on Newsmax, it's been on

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Speaker 4: CBN TBN. Angel Studios has asked us to make a

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Speaker 4: series about what we're seeing among people of faith in Ukraine,

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Speaker 4: and so, you know, you can check it out on

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Speaker 4: Angel Studios. But if you go to Faith under Siege

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Speaker 4: dot Com, it's just really simple Faith under Siege dot Com.

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Speaker 4: You can see our movie. We've got a seventeen minute

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Speaker 4: movie on Catholic priest. There's no there's not a single

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Speaker 4: Catholic priest left and occupied Ukraine. The Russians have either

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Speaker 4: killed them or driven them out, and we made a

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Speaker 4: film about this. You know there and as is the

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Speaker 4: case all over the world, the Jews are being terribly

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Speaker 4: mistreated by the Russians and you can see all this

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Speaker 4: at Faith Understiege dot com.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Well, everybody needs to check it out, but we

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Speaker 1: need to stay in formed on everything that's going on.

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Speaker 1: You get such a small amount of information if you

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Speaker 1: rely on legacy media for educating yourself out there. So

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Speaker 1: this is important. This is important stuff, and it's important

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Speaker 1: to know overall what's going on out there around the

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Speaker 1: world as it relates to faith. So great work, Steven,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Thank you for bringing this information to light

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Speaker 1: and allowing all of us to have a better understanding

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Speaker 1: of what's going on over there. So Steven Moore, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us here on the right View.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. To everybody at home as always, make

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Speaker 1: sure you like, subscribe, to share and follow, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you back here next time for more awesome and

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Speaker 1: well back down

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Speaker 2: Many man, there ain't no ways anyway,