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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's April second.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people said, well, he didn't really make

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Speaker 7: Thanks to the progress we've made, I can say tonight

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Speaker 2: President Trump is definitely reserving the right here to define

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Speaker 7: To those countries that can't get fuel, many of which

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Speaker 2: thoughts on PAMBONDI. The other rumor mill is over Tulci Gabbard.

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Speaker 2: Radiance Technologies. Jay, Welcome to the Charliekirkshow.

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Speaker 3: It's an honor be with you. And before we get

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Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that, and yeah, it means a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nowhere in any report, in any reporting, either from

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Speaker 3: and egress to his firing spot on the roof. And

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Speaker 3: guess who recognized him, his mother and his father. There's

435
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Speaker 3: not another shooter, there's not another gun. There's not another

436
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Speaker 3: person culpable or guilty of the murder of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: It's Tyler Robinson. He's sitting in a Utah Joie waiting

438
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Speaker 3: trial right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just what your insight here is

440
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Speaker 2: I think really important, Jay that it's what the defense

441
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Speaker 2: did not say in that motion, they did not contend

442
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Speaker 2: the caliber of the round, which is something that's a huge, huge,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't even have eyes to see that that

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Speaker 2: I needed to look for that. You saw that because

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Speaker 2: you've read so many of these motions over the years

446
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Speaker 2: and read somebody these eighth reports that you instantly knew

447
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Speaker 2: that if they had, if the defense knew that it

448
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Speaker 2: was a different round based on the ATF report, which

449
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Speaker 2: we haven't read, that they would have led with that

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Speaker 2: that would have been their first point that they made

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Speaker 2: in that motion. They didn't, which means they sort of

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Speaker 2: biomission admitting that it's a thirty caliber.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely biomission. It is well as you said, it's by

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Speaker 3: what they did not say, and the reason they didn't

455
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Speaker 3: say it is because they know that that is in

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Speaker 3: the report. It would be otherwise very very useful sculptory evidence.

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Speaker 3: But since it is in the report, it directly matches,

458
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Speaker 3: to use the media's term anyway, by the way, unable

459
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Speaker 3: to identify and does not match. Once again, do not

460
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Speaker 3: mean the same thing, but it wouldn't match if it

461
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Speaker 3: was a twenty two caliber. But you know what it

462
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Speaker 3: does because it's a thirty caliber. And I'll tell you

463
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Speaker 3: this too. I can't tell you how many murderers I've prosecuted.

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Speaker 3: There are assaults involving a firearm where we couldn't identify

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Speaker 3: the rifling because the round was so degraded that we

466
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Speaker 3: were able to examine. It's very common. Like I said,

467
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Speaker 3: the ATF is the absolute best in the world at

468
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Speaker 3: identifying rifling characteristics and also examining for the caliber class

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Speaker 3: and they always get it right. And so the defense

470
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Speaker 3: lawyer mentioned that they might use the ATF report as

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Speaker 3: exculpatory app Go ahead, knock yourself out, because we'll throw

472
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Speaker 3: an expert on the stand, we being the good guys

473
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Speaker 3: that says, no, this is the exact type of round

474
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Speaker 3: that is used in that Mauser ninety eight bolt action

475
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Speaker 3: thirty odd six rifle. It's the same kind. And how

476
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Speaker 3: many rounds were fired one, how many spent shellcasings were found?

477
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Speaker 3: One was his DNA on that spent showcasing. Yes, I

478
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Speaker 3: mean it is overwhelming evidence. And his intent is overwhelming too,

479
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Speaker 3: that he intended to kill Charlie Kirk that fateful day.

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Speaker 2: Why would the defense want to drag this out dive

481
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Speaker 2: into that more? You said, that's their goal is really

482
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Speaker 2: to like delay. Are they trying to spread conspiracy? Are they?

483
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Speaker 2: Are they they must be aware of the conspiracy culture

484
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Speaker 2: that's emerged. Are they trying to play into that to

485
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Speaker 2: potentially taint the jury? Is that? What would that be

486
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Speaker 2: a motive that you could divine from this?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: I mean, so part of it is the delay, you know,

489
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Speaker 3: because okay, we need our expert now, and that's going

490
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Speaker 3: to take six months to a year, and this is

491
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Speaker 3: all to drag it out. That's part of it, I

492
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Speaker 3: don't I mean, the trial date could get moved obviously,

493
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Speaker 3: and onward and so forth. But they're aware of the

494
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Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists, the whack jobs that are on the internet,

495
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Speaker 3: and even in you know, print media with a headline

496
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Speaker 3: that says does not match. That was all over it

497
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Speaker 3: was USA today, it was others. They were just wrong.

498
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Speaker 3: It's dishonest that it is. They were. It's just actual,

499
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Speaker 3: factually and forensically incorrect to make that statement that it

500
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Speaker 3: does not match. It shows how little the left knows

501
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Speaker 3: or the people twisting their mustache no about firearms, right,

502
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Speaker 3: especially about firearms tool marking tests that the ATF provides.

503
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Speaker 3: So I'm sure they're willing to you know. My experience

504
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Speaker 3: is they're absolutely willing to taint the jeweling jury pool

505
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Speaker 3: with this, this sort of cast of little bits of

506
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Speaker 3: doubt here and there, so that you know that when

507
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Speaker 3: twelve people are sitting in the box, it actually might

508
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Speaker 3: go their way with one of those people. But as

509
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Speaker 3: soon as it comes out, hopefully the state will file

510
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Speaker 3: something soon that will mention the thirty caliber class of

511
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Speaker 3: this particular fragmented round, so that we can you can

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Speaker 3: have me back on and you'll owe me all the

513
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Speaker 3: money in your pocket, Andrew, because I will.

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Speaker 2: I'm not betting against you, Jay.

515
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Speaker 3: The ATF will have been proven correct, and also the

516
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Speaker 3: professionals they are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay, thank you so much for I think that

518
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Speaker 2: was such an important insight. And again we're not rushing

519
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Speaker 2: to judgment here. We want the legal process to play out.

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Speaker 2: This is the system we have, and I fully expect

521
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Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson's defense to mount a rigorous defense. That's what

522
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Speaker 2: they're supposed to do. So j Town, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: This was great, really really important insight, and we will

524
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Speaker 2: have you back on. You have a quite the resume,

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Speaker 2: So that's let's break it.

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Speaker 4: We got about forty emails in five minutes, I think,

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Speaker 4: just after we asked what people thought, doesn't doesn't, just

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Speaker 4: filled up the entire Gmail screen. Uh, so clearly inspired

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Speaker 4: a lot of passion. We know a lot of people,

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Speaker 4: uh and I couldn't read all of them, but it

555
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Speaker 4: looks like a lot of people did want Bondi to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Our next guest is ready. I want

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Speaker 2: to get to it. Scott h koop Or. He's the

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Speaker 2: off of Personnel Management director and they have a big

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Speaker 2: new initiative. It feels very central to the mission of

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Speaker 2: this show and to the mission of turning Points. I

561
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Speaker 2: wanted to make some time Scott, Welcome to the Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk Show.

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Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for having me. Really great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you guys have this huge new initiative at

565
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Speaker 2: the Office of Personnel Management hiring gen Z and I

566
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Speaker 2: think it's absolutely the right message to send, So tell

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Speaker 2: us about this please.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, though, and we're thankful to have the updated to

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Speaker 8: talk to you about it, because obviously you all are

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Speaker 8: the leaders here in terms of this audience. So let

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Speaker 8: me just give you the background real fast. So about

572
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Speaker 8: seven percent of the federal workforce is under the age

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Speaker 8: of thirty and if you look at the workforce more generally,

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Speaker 8: that's about twenty two to twenty three percent, so by

575
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Speaker 8: a factor about three to one. You know, the very

576
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Speaker 8: simple way to say it is the federal government has

577
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Speaker 8: done a very poor job of attracting kind of young

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Speaker 8: people to decide to spend some time and you know,

579
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Speaker 8: commit some public service and do some good for the country.

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Speaker 8: So what we've done is launch a new program. We're

581
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Speaker 8: we're coordinating with all the agencies across government, and we

582
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Speaker 8: put out a call, centralized call for anybody who is

583
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Speaker 8: interested in We're starting with five career areas, so technology, roles,

584
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Speaker 8: human resources, financial services, program management, and then contracting and procurement.

585
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Speaker 8: These are jobs that are kind of well distributed across

586
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Speaker 8: all the agencies and government, and we're about to kick

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Speaker 8: off a very broad recruiting effort. And you know, your

588
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Speaker 8: leadership here is fantastic. In fact, you may know this,

589
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Speaker 8: but we're going to actually have a presence tonight at

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Speaker 8: the event that you're hosting at George Washington University.

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Speaker 5: At six point three tonight.

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Speaker 8: So for anybody who's in the DC area and is

593
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Speaker 8: interested in being patriotic and helping support the government in

594
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Speaker 8: all the wonderful work that we're doing, please come see us.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is amazing. So I think you know, I

596
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Speaker 2: don't know what the rules are, so I'm not trying

597
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Speaker 2: to break any rules, but I would love to get

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Speaker 2: you a bunch of graduating seniors their cvs over to

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Speaker 2: the to the Office of Personnel Management. I think this

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Speaker 2: is amazing, and I'm sure, yeah, you sent.

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Speaker 8: Them, you sent them to us, and we'll we'll take

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Speaker 8: care We'll take care of it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, they got it. They gotta they gotta meet

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Speaker 2: the mark just like everybody else. They've gotta they gotta

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Speaker 2: have excellence and merit. And I'm not I'm not asking

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Speaker 2: for special favors, but I know a bunch of graduating

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Speaker 2: seniors that I'm sure would be looking for some jobs

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Speaker 2: and uh could be a great fit for this administration.

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Speaker 2: So that's amazing. Go over drilled down just a little

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Speaker 2: bit further in the areas that you're looking for is

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Speaker 2: to fill these positions, and any idea of how many

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Speaker 2: positions we're looking because obviously, I'll be honest, I'm a

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Speaker 2: little bit biased. I want to see the federal workforce

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Speaker 2: numbers decrease.

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Speaker 8: As as do as do I by the way, right, yeah,

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Speaker 8: maybe let me give.

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Speaker 2: You perspective on that that needle. Yeah yeah, all right.

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Speaker 8: Let me frame it here to make sure you don't

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Speaker 8: think we're going crazy. So I mentioned that only seven

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Speaker 8: percent of the workforce today is under the age of thirty,

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Speaker 8: and that's you know, well under indexed. On the other

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Speaker 8: side of the federal workforce, close to half of our

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Speaker 8: population is over the age of fifty, and so we'll

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Speaker 8: likely retire over the next five, ten, fifteen years. So

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Speaker 8: while I agree with you I'm a small government, but

626
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Speaker 8: I think we're I'm probably not a no government person.

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Speaker 8: So we actually will need some people to do the

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Speaker 8: jobs of the American people. So part of this is

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Speaker 8: we've got to solve this democratic demographic imbalanced problem. Right,

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Speaker 8: we just have a pending problem that we got to solve.

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Speaker 8: The second thing we're trying to solve here is, Look,

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Speaker 8: we just need people who've got skills that are representative

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Speaker 8: in you know, kind of this generation of talent.

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Speaker 5: So I'll give an example.

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Speaker 8: On the technology side, there's a tremendous amount of modernization

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Speaker 8: effort that we're doing in the government. So we launched

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Speaker 8: something called tech Force fairly recently, and tech Force is

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Speaker 8: part of this early career program, but it's specific to

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Speaker 8: obviously technology jobs, and we need people who understand modern

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Speaker 8: software development, who understand you know, AI technologies, who understand

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Speaker 8: data science. So those are specific areas where quite frankly,

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Speaker 8: that skill gap is preventing the government from being able

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Speaker 8: to do the things that we need to do to modernize.

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Speaker 8: And look, as you well know, modernization is the key

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Speaker 8: towards efficiency. So if we actually modernize and use technology

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Speaker 8: we're appropriate, then we will have a much more efficient

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Speaker 8: government that we'll able to actually do the work of

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Speaker 8: the American people without quite frankly bankrupting you know, my

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Speaker 8: kids or grandkids and certainly you know the generation that

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Speaker 8: I know you talked to you quite a bit. So

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Speaker 8: that's one big area of technology. The other area is

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Speaker 8: there's a bunch of jobs that just lend themselves well

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Speaker 8: to people who need to be trained. So there are

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Speaker 8: a ton of HR related jobs in governments and human resources.

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Speaker 8: There's a ton of financial analyst jobs and these are

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Speaker 8: all roles where you know, we can take people who

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Speaker 8: are smart people. Many of them are coming out of college.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, you mentioned college. I just want

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Speaker 8: to make sure you understand it's okay if people don't

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Speaker 8: go to college. So one of the things that this

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Speaker 8: administration is doing is we're eliminating college degree requirements for

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Speaker 8: almost every job classification because in our mind, look, we

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Speaker 8: want to hire people for the skills and the merit

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Speaker 8: they have. And you know, it's great if they went

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Speaker 8: to college. But by the way, if they're incredibly skillful

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Speaker 8: and they know what they're doing and they can perform

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Speaker 8: the jobs we need, we shouldn't discriminate against them because

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Speaker 8: maybe they don't have the financial means to go to college,

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Speaker 8: or they just didn't factor into their life plans. So

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Speaker 8: that these are all kind of priorities working on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or like Senator Mark wynnmull and his dies and

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Speaker 2: he takes over the planning business, blows it into a

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Speaker 2: multimillion dollar business and he's an entrepreneur. We need more

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Speaker 2: of that absolutely as well. So yeah, so we'll add

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Speaker 2: graduating high school seniors to the if they're not planning.

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Speaker 4: On ghosts, it's I want to really, I guess to

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Speaker 4: any young people out there, you should strongly look into

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Speaker 4: applying for this, because what do we all complain about

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Speaker 4: as conservatives. We complain about the fact the deep state,

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Speaker 4: the government it's full of left wing career bureaucrats who

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Speaker 4: are extremely difficult to dig out. And the way that

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Speaker 4: you fix that is actually we get young people who

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Speaker 4: have pro American values, who are not left wing barnacles

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Speaker 4: like you get them into government, and then that is

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Speaker 4: how you allow this country to perpetuate into the decades

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Speaker 4: in the future, because as we know, once you get

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Speaker 4: into government, it's hard to get you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and so you want job security here you go,

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Speaker 2: by the way, well fair enough. So I would just say,

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Speaker 2: you know what DC votes about ninety five to five Democrat.

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Speaker 2: Well let's get some Let's get some turning point grads

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Speaker 2: in there and make it like ninety ten, you know,

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Speaker 2: eighty five fifteen. I'm going to end it here, Scott

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Speaker 9: Since the founding of our republic, service has been part

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Speaker 2: slash kirk. You have doctor Gad Sad for the entire hour,

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Speaker 2: and he is one of my favorite public intellectuals. He

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Speaker 2: was one of Charlie's favorite public intellectuals. He has so

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Speaker 2: much insight to bring to bear that we needed a

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Speaker 2: whole hour so without further Ado, welcome back to the show,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Sad.

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Speaker 5: What a lovely introduction.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, And I just posted on X but it's

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Speaker 6: worth maybe repeating here live. That day is the first

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Speaker 6: day of Passover, and I thought it was particularly apropos

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Speaker 6: to take this high Jewish holiday and come on the

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Speaker 6: show to honor Charlie.

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Speaker 5: Charlie, you live on in our hearts and minds.

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Speaker 2: Amen. Yeah, we actually played a clip and it'll it'll

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Speaker 2: air tomorrow actually, but the of just talking Charlie reflecting

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Speaker 2: on how Eastern Passover always overlap and what an important

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Speaker 2: season this is for Christians and Jews. So it's great

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Speaker 2: to have you, sir. There's so much suicidal empathy going on.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you your your proper dues here. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Gad said, you are the scholar at the Declaration

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Speaker 2: of Independent Center for the Study of American Freedom. For

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Speaker 2: a Lebanese born man, that is quite the quite the jump.

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Speaker 2: But you do love this country, You love American freedom,

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Speaker 2: you love the West, and that's at the University of Mississippi.

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Speaker 2: You are also you have a forthcoming book, The Suicidal

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Speaker 2: Empathy U and I just love the cover. If you

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Speaker 2: guys could throw this up. Yeah, you got the sheep.

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Speaker 2: Sheep on their free the wolves time to bed. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of the it's kind of a take on the

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Speaker 2: you know, I guess the Chick fil A you know

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Speaker 2: where they're always trying to say, you know that the

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Speaker 2: cow the cow take you know, eat the cows anyway,

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Speaker 2: so this is actually the cow say I get more chicken.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, but it's a great, great cover there. And

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Speaker 2: we've been hearing about you writing this book for some time.

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Speaker 2: So when does it come out so people can pre order?

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Speaker 2: Let's just start there, doctor.

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Speaker 5: Said, thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: May twelfth, twenty twenty six, so in about six weeks.

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Speaker 6: But if I can just engage in some shameless plugging,

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Speaker 6: it's really important if you can actually pre order the book,

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Speaker 6: because what happens is that all the amass pre orders,

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Speaker 6: then when the book is released, they all count as

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Speaker 6: sales on that first day. So if the book can

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Speaker 6: immediately hit the best seller list, then that becomes an avalanche.

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Speaker 6: So please, if you're interested in this topic, go out

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Speaker 6: and pre order it asap.

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Speaker 2: So there are go buy the book. It's really important.

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Speaker 2: I think it is the key to understanding the future

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Speaker 2: of the West. Are we going to survive as we

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Speaker 2: currently are constructed, as we currently understand ourselves, or are

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Speaker 2: we going to commit cultural suicide? I think the first topic.

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Speaker 2: There's so many to get to. There's Islamification, there's energy policy,

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Speaker 2: there's cultural issues, spiritual issues.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Lammification's got to be the first.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, hold on, I mean we'll get there because

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Speaker 2: we have to get there because just because of his

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Speaker 2: own biography, doctor Sad's biography out of Lebanon and what's

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Speaker 2: happened in that country. But I have to start with

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Speaker 2: my personal pet favorite, which is birthright citizenship, which I

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Speaker 2: believe is a suicide pact that a country would make,

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Speaker 2: especially in this day and age of air travel, that

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Speaker 2: the founders and the drafters of the fourteenth Amendment would

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Speaker 2: have never conceived. Couldn't have conceived of jets that can

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Speaker 2: fly from South Africa direct to Los Angeles. They wouldn't have.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. It is a suicide pack, a

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Speaker 2: trojan horse where we now have to our own laws,

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Speaker 2: bind us to our own constitution, binds us to letting

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Speaker 2: in CCP spies that can then determine an election if

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Speaker 2: they get millions of voters that live in China but

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Speaker 2: can vote in America. Why strike us militarily if we

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Speaker 2: just are letting them in the front door. What is

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Speaker 2: your take on birthright?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I couldn't agree with you more. Of course,

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Speaker 6: the old maxim demography is destiny is exactly what you're

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Speaker 6: alluding to. And to your earlier point when you kindly

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Speaker 6: introduce me as a scholar at Old miss and you said,

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Speaker 6: you know, here's the Lebanese guy who's defending American freedoms.

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Speaker 6: The American spirit is enshrined within the DNA of our

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Speaker 6: value systems. Right, It's not the fact that you're born

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Speaker 6: in the United States through you know, the birthright nonsense,

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Speaker 6: that makes you American.

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Speaker 5: It's whether you've.

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Speaker 6: Internalized a set of values and of codes that uniquely

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Speaker 6: defines American exceptionalism. And so even though I'm not born

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Speaker 6: in the United States, even though I'm officially now Canadian,

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Speaker 6: I venture to say that I'm a lot more of

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Speaker 6: an American than people who just come to the US,

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Speaker 6: PLoP down a kid, and then voila, he becomes American.

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Speaker 6: So I couldn't be more in agreement with you and

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Speaker 6: the quicker that they they meaning the United States changes

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Speaker 6: that law, the better it will be for everyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I you know, I try not to do this,

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Speaker 2: but I did just tweet out something that I think

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Speaker 2: is central. I didn't come up with this idea, but

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Speaker 2: we had Molly Hemingway and Sean Davis from the Federalists,

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Speaker 2: and we're talking with them, and I just said, no

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Speaker 2: great nation would allow a loophole that allows communist birth

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Speaker 2: tourists to vote in its election and bestow citizenship on

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Speaker 2: the children of those who broke the nation's law to

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Speaker 2: enter the country in the first place. No great nation

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Speaker 2: would allow themselves to get played like that. And I

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Speaker 2: just the fact that the legal scholars are telling me

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Speaker 2: it's probably gonna go seven to against getting rid of

836
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Speaker 2: this ridiculous policy that the entire rest of the world

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Speaker 2: seem to have gotten rid of by about two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five. It breaks my heart because I feel grieved

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Speaker 2: internally that we would be so dumb, that we would

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Speaker 2: be so hamstrung by idiocy. You know, at least the

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Speaker 2: Greeks when they were letting in the Trojan horse, they

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Speaker 2: didn't know what was inside of it. We know what's

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Speaker 2: inside of this Trojan horse.

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Speaker 4: And I had my own take, which is really the

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Speaker 4: bleak thing. If the Supreme Court rules that way, you know,

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Speaker 4: we don't know the full law. Maybe there's some dumb

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Speaker 4: reason they can justify it, but okay, it should be

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Speaker 4: pretty simple to change the law, to have a Congress

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Speaker 4: that says, oh, Chinese oligarchs don't get to just buy

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Speaker 4: kids from America and their citizens. Tourists can't just sail

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Speaker 4: a boat ten miles off shore, drop a kid on

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Speaker 4: that boat and they're a citizen for life. Like that's

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Speaker 4: an absurd thing, and our Congress should.

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Speaker 2: Be ready to ban it.

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Speaker 4: And I think this gets back to your big point.

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Speaker 4: It's suicidal empathy that makes us refuse to do this

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Speaker 4: obvious thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, indeed, I'm no, go ahead, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 5: and I don't.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you're not ready to segue into the Islam issue,

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Speaker 6: but it really is relevant to what we're talking about here,

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Speaker 6: where you sort of become impotent to implement you know,

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Speaker 6: auto corrective mechanisms that are complete common sense.

864
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Speaker 5: Right. So I often hear from esteemed American lawyers.

865
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 6: Hey, professor sad doctor said, I I completely get your

866
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 6: story with Islam, but you know, unfortunately we have freedom

867
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 6: of religion here, and I say, really, so you actually

868
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 6: think that there is no mechanism that you could come

869
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 6: up with that would then auto correct the fact that

870
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 6: not all religions are equally congruent with the foundational ethos

871
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 6: of the United States, Right, So, and I often do

872
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 6: this satirical uh you know, dialogue where I say, you know,

873
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 6: some some guy, some immigrant from that region, says I

874
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 6: want to kill you, I want to rape you, I

875
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 6: want to destroy your heritage, I want to destroy your religion,

876
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 6: I want to destroy your culture. And then some American

877
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 6: lawyer says, hey, you're not allowed to say that. That's

878
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 6: incitement to violence. And then the noble immigrant response, no,

879
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 6: but that's in my religion.

880
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 5: I have freedom of religion. Oh okay, sorry, carry on.

881
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 6: So it really is, in its astounding form of impotent,

882
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 6: suicidal empathy to say that we are somehow hamstrung, as

883
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 6: you said, by these codes that could never be there

884
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 6: inherrant and they can never be changed, and if it

885
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 6: has to be that we commit civilizational seppuku, so be it.

886
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: Jeezh the way he said, yeah, it feels like we

887
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: get stuck in these ideological cul de sacs because of

888
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: the myths that we've told ourselves. One of the myths

889
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: I believe is that we are a nation of immigrants,

890
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: and I want to get into that history because we're

891
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: actually a nation of settlers. In my opinion, you could

892
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: disagree with me, Doctor sad that includes immigrants waves when

893
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: it makes sense for us, and then we're able to

894
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: stop it when it stops making sense for us. Doctor said,

895
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: for those who don't know your bio, just really quickly

896
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: give it. To give us your bio in about two minutes.

897
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 6: So I was born in the nineteen sixties in Lebanon.

898
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 6: We were part of the last, very small, dwindling group

899
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 6: of Lebanese Jews that had steadfastly refused to leave Lebanon,

900
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 6: perhaps wrongly, so when the Civil War broke out in

901
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy five, it became impossible to be Jewish, so

902
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 6: we ended up leaving Lebanon. Miraculously, we made it out

903
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 6: of there on one of their return trips to Lebanon

904
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 6: to deal with some of their business interests.

905
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 5: My parents were.

906
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 6: Kidnapped by Abu Nidhal's group Fatah, and so all of

907
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 6: the things that you've seen since October seventh is stuff

908
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 6: that is called my childhood, and eventually we made it

909
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 6: to Canada. And then of course I went to study

910
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 6: in the United States and never thought that I would

911
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 6: be facing the jew hatred that I now see on

912
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 6: a daily basis all over the place. So that's sort

913
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 6: of my personal history my academic history. I've been a

914
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 6: professor for thirty two years. My main area is to

915
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: apply evolutionary psychology to study human behavior in general and

916
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 6: consumer behavior in particular. I realized very quickly that academia

917
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 6: was lathen with insane parasitic ideas. That's what led me

918
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 6: to write The Parasitic Mind. But that book explained what

919
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 6: happens to your mind when it is parasitized.

920
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 5: By ideological capture.

921
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 6: Suicidal empathy completes the story by explaining what happens to

922
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 6: your emotional system when it is hijacked. If I can

923
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 6: hijack your thinking and feeling system, I own you.

924
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: And you know, I think that I did not know

925
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: that about your parents. By the way, doctor said, Oh,

926
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: you didn't know that, No, I didn't. I didn't realize that.

927
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 2: I knew that you had fled Lebanon for some reason.

928
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 2: You end up in Canada, which was you know, which

929
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 2: is unfortunate. I'm sorry, but if anybody's going to understand

930
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: the parasitic mind, it would be somebody who's lived in

931
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Canada and suicidal empathy. We played the clip yesterday on

932
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: the show and just had so much fun with it.

933
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: Of that's what's the name of the party. It's this

934
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: far left party, the.

935
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: New Democratic Party.

936
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were talking about their their equity cards

937
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 2: and their point of personal privilege. I just I could

938
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: admit it's it's but Blake made a great point. It's laughable,

939
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: it's cartoonish, it's fun to make fun of, but boil boys,

940
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: that's serious stuff. It's serious stuff because it's one step

941
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: away from you know, gen z adopting a lot of

942
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: that stuff and being mainstreamed in America too. All Right,

943
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: doctor sat I'm gonna tell you what I believe. I

944
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: think Blake agrees with me. But it's okay if you

945
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: don't completely. If you go back through America's history, we

946
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: had this huge immigration wave between the eighteen eighties and

947
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: about nineteen twenty, and they set the in the nineteen twenties,

948
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: it had an immigration Act with a quota system that

949
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: was overturned by Heartseller in the nineteen sixties. The people

950
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: that fought in the nineteen twenties for that immigration quota

951
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: system did not consider America to be a nation of immigrants.

952
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: It was a mis that was created after World War

953
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: Two to bring everybody together in this wave of Polish

954
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: and Irish and Italian immigrants. But before that, they did

955
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: not want this new wave of Eastern and Southern Europeans

956
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: because they were too Catholic, or the culture, they weren't

957
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: Anglo enough, or whatever. We were a nation of settlers.

958
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 2: And the people that warned then about this new wave

959
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: of immigrants had a point because it then embedded this

960
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: idea that we're a nation of immigrants and that we

961
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: sort of have what's the word, the expression, the blank slate, right,

962
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: this blank slate of humanity. It doesn't matter if you're Muslim,

963
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you come from the Third World,

964
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: You'll be an American just it's a piece of paper.

965
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: I hate this myth. I want to destroy this myth.

966
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: And I'm saying it to a Lebanese man who I

967
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: believe is like fully American at this point. So help

968
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: me make sense of this. What are your thoughts on

969
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 2: the history that we just went through.

970
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 6: Well, I completely agree with you, actually look into empathy.

971
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 6: I talk about this classic categorization error that frankly, if

972
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 6: you're if you're, if you have greater cognitive acuity than

973
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 6: a three day old pigeon, you should be able to

974
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 6: not be committing this error. And let me explain what

975
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 6: it is. Your Your cat Fidle is a feeline. So

976
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 6: is the wild lion in the jungle who would happily

977
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 6: eat you. They're both called feline. The fact that they're

978
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 6: both feline doesn't mean that when I'm on a safari

979
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 6: in Botswana and I see a feline, I say, oh,

980
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 6: let me get out of my jeep so I can

981
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 6: cuddle with the wild lion because he's a feeline, just

982
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 6: like the cat I have at home.

983
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: So, but when you.

984
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 6: Say all immigrants are equal in the way that the

985
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 6: progressively suicidely empathetic people do, they're saying that there is

986
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 6: no inherent differences between the values that might come with

987
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 6: one set of immigrants versus another. And I will receive

988
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 6: tons of hate mail gentlemen, where people say, well, you

989
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 6: are such a degenerate hypocrite. You are an immigrant, so

990
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 6: is your buddy Elon Musk so you are immigrants who

991
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 6: can come here, but Mohammad and Ahmad who went to

992
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 6: a summer camp in Afghanistan can't also be perfectly nice

993
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 6: Arkansas immigrants.

994
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 5: But that's what the categorization error is.

995
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 6: Right, When you say all immigrants are equal, you're simply

996
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 6: saying that once they become members of the host society,

997
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 6: they're treated equally under the law. But the idea that

998
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 6: we all come with the exact same baggage. To your

999
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 6: point about the Latin term, by the way, for empty

1000
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 6: slate is tabila raza. We're not tabila raza, right, So

1001
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 6: it's not surprising, for example, if you let in millions

1002
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 6: of people that come from societies where they've been surveyed

1003
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 6: and shown to have ninety five ninety six percent of

1004
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 6: those surveyed have endemic Jew hatred. So when these people

1005
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 6: come to the host societies, what do you think is

1006
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 6: going to happen? Is jew hatred going to go up

1007
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 6: or going or it's going to go down? And so

1008
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 6: all the politicians are their head and saying, what's causing

1009
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 6: all this Jew hatred? Well, maybe because you've imported millions

1010
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 6: of people that have a genocidal hatred toward the Jews.

1011
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 4: Well, novel thought.

1012
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: Novel thought. It's also you know what bothers me about

1013
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: this whole thing is I am sort of like a

1014
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: product of this tabula raza ideology because I remember growing

1015
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: up being very much brainwashed into thinking that all everybody's

1016
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: the same and there is no differences. You know, we

1017
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: all was you hear these things like ninety nine point

1018
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 2: eight five percent of your DNA is the same as somebody.

1019
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: Nobody's arguing any of that. Everybody isn't it made in

1020
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: the image and likeness of God. Everybody has dignity before

1021
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: the eyes of the Creator and equality in our laws.

1022
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: But it's also common sense, like once you break the

1023
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: parasite in the brain, like once you break through and

1024
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: you get red pilled or whatever you want to call it.

1025
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: It's so frustrating how stupidly common sense this is. And

1026
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 2: this is one of the reasons why you know, there's

1027
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: a you know, people are talking about MAGA and the

1028
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: coalition fracturing. I will always have respect for President Trump

1029
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: because of one thing. I have a lot of respect

1030
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: for President Trump, but one thing. He came down that

1031
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: golden escalator and he just started throwing bombs about stuff

1032
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: that was these pieties you were not allowed to address.

1033
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: He called dumb wars, dumb wars, God bless him for that.

1034
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: Before that we weren't allowed to talk about he called

1035
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: free trade or he said it was ripping off America

1036
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: and it was you know, it was hollowing out our

1037
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: manufacturing base. He was right about that. These were pieties

1038
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: you were not allowed to address. And then he said,

1039
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: you know, he said, they're sending rapists and murders over here,

1040
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: and I suppose some are nice people. You were not

1041
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: allowed to say that stuff. And I remember jumping for

1042
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: joy because at that point I'd become completely convinced our

1043
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: immigration policies were just insanity. Jumping for joy that he

1044
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: had the guts to say it, and that was the

1045
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: first step.

1046
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 6: One minute me, Oh yeah, Let me just mention very

1047
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 6: quickly about the sort of the tabla razap remise. The

1048
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 6: reason why that parasitic idea is so ubiquitous everywhere, so pervasive,

1049
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 6: is because it is rooted in a form of unicornea hope.

1050
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 5: Right.

1051
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 6: It is really nice for me, as a prospective parent

1052
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 6: to think that when my child is born, he or

1053
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 6: she could be the next Lionel Messi, Michael Jordan, or

1054
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 6: Albert Einstein.

1055
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 5: It's nice to know that there.

1056
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 6: Are no quote innate individual differences in biological potentiality.

1057
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 3: Right.

1058
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 6: We could all be the next Michael Jordan if only

1059
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 6: we're hugged enough or not hugged enough. So the reason

1060
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 6: why these parasitic ideas work so well is because they

1061
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 6: cater to this fundamental unicornea optimism that most of us carry.

1062
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: Especially in America. I will say, you know we and

1063
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: this is why I think our foundational myths it's the

1064
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: software that's running in the background of our brains that

1065
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: we think are these eternal truths, but actually they're myths.

1066
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: Like America is a nation of immigrants, Well, we have immigrants,

1067
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: but we're actually a nation that was founded by settlers. Okay,

1068
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: that's a core myth that we have to deconstruct. And

1069
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: Tabla Rasa is another one.

1070
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,240
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1071
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1072
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1073
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1074
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1075
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1076
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Speaker 2: All right, doctor Sad, we got it. This is the

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk Show. So we're gonna play the a clip

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Speaker 2: from you and Charlie st nine.

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Speaker 1: The Islam is all about power and leftism is all

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Speaker 1: about power. Maybe that's also what they have in common.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, they both despise the West. So because we both

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Speaker 6: despise the West, we will join in unison and trying

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Speaker 6: to get rid of the West. But of course the

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Speaker 6: leftists don't recognize that once Islam becomes ascendant, they will

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Speaker 6: be decapitated just like the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: That is a This is quite de capitated.

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Speaker 4: That's why Charlie liked you. You had that frank way

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Speaker 4: of talking. He likes to he likes to quote, I

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Speaker 4: think you the the West, the islamis West as.

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Speaker 2: A woman to be that clip, we have that clip.

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Speaker 2: Let's play that, all right.

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Speaker 1: What would you said, the West is a woman to

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Speaker 1: be mounted. That is the Islamic creed.

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Speaker 5: Remind us of it.

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Speaker 6: I would repeatedly hear from Arabic speaking Muslim speaking immigrants,

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Speaker 6: in this case it was in Canada always say that

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Speaker 6: the West is a woman to be mounted.

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Speaker 5: And what the.

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Speaker 6: Reflex that that capture is that all of the virtues

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Speaker 6: that we think as laudable in the West, compassion, magnanimity, generosity,

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Speaker 6: empathy are heard as weakness, weakness, weakness, and weakness by

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Speaker 6: cultures that don't necessarily share our infinite larges. And so

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Speaker 6: it's exactly what they're saying, West is week it's a woman.

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Speaker 5: Therefore really quickly, So.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to share as relating to that clip, something

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Speaker 6: that just happened in Quebec, my home province.

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Speaker 5: So there was a gentleman you're ready, drum roll. His

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Speaker 5: first name is Mohammad.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was.

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Speaker 6: Caught in many, many different clips, but the one that

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Speaker 6: made it viral. He was caught on a clip where

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Speaker 6: he had been stopped by a female police officer Montreal

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Speaker 6: police officer, interacting with her, and the things that he

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Speaker 6: was saying are exactly like to the word when I said,

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Speaker 6: you know, the West is a woman to be mounted.

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Speaker 6: So I won't repeat it here, not to soil the

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Speaker 6: ears of your listeners, but it's all about I'm going

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Speaker 6: to f this to you, I'm going to do f

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Speaker 6: this to your mother, and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 5: So that's the mindset, right, Mike is right.

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Speaker 6: Therefore, men in those cultures, you know, are the rulers

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Speaker 6: of women, and therefore you.

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Speaker 5: Can imagine what that implies.

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Speaker 6: So they see the West as this feminized weak, you know,

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Speaker 6: suicidally empathetic woman that deserves to be mounted, as per

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Speaker 6: this Mohammad guy being stopped by the female cop.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's just import a few million more. That'd

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Speaker 2: be great, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, the way that you're able to

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Speaker 6: justify that if you're a suicidally empathetic person, and maybe

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Speaker 6: we'll get into this more in later segments, is that

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Speaker 6: as long as those progressive folks can identify their neighbor Ahmad,

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Speaker 6: who's a very sweet guy who's gay, who's married to

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Speaker 6: a Jewish man and who eats proshutto and drinks vodka,

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Speaker 6: that is the true representation of Islam. So I only

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Speaker 6: have to come up with one person who seems to

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Speaker 6: fit in within Western liberties, and voila, that becomes Islam,

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Speaker 6: and all of those other things that also seem to

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Speaker 6: be linked to Islam are false Islam. Ahmed, my neighbor

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Speaker 6: is the real Islam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Charlie tried to navigate that dynamic by separating

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Speaker 2: micro from macro. Right, we all know is Muslims that

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Speaker 2: are nice people that are probably bad Muslims. Though that's

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Speaker 2: the point, Like the Muslims that you like are probably

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Speaker 2: bad Muslims, and the Muslims that we all don't like

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Speaker 2: are probably the ones that are reading this.

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Speaker 4: And something I like to point out to Charlie and

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Speaker 4: he listened to me on it. It's that sometimes people

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Speaker 4: would say Islam needs a reformation, like the Protestant Reformation,

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Speaker 4: and you have to tell them Islam did have a reformation.

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Speaker 4: It's the silophism that you see. It's that in the

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Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds they looked around and said, we're losing all

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Speaker 4: these fights to the West. It must be because we

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Speaker 4: got away from true Islam. Let's be super fundamentalist about it.

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Speaker 4: And that's what gave us Islamic fundamentalism. It's not even

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Speaker 4: stuff that's been around forever. It's they got really intense

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Speaker 4: about it in the last one hundred, one hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty years.

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Speaker 2: And this is what we.

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Speaker 6: See, slightly more optimistic than the history that I know.

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Speaker 6: You're making him seem as though they've been rough only

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Speaker 6: for one hundred years.

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Speaker 5: A few people would like to remind you that this

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Speaker 5: has been going on for fourteen hundred years. But I

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Speaker 5: understand the spirit of what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: All right, doctor said. There are so many areas in

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Speaker 2: which suicidal empathy comes into play. Islamification is a huge one.

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Speaker 2: And Blake has been doing He's got two stories. You've

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Speaker 2: got this Michigan guy and.

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of very symbolic ones in the last

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Speaker 4: few days, and I think they're both worthy of note.

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Speaker 4: First is they have local elections are coming up in Britain.

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Speaker 4: Charlie visited Britain last spring. He saw Arabic language, Arabic

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Speaker 4: script on all the stores. It just felt very foreign.

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Speaker 4: He felt it when he was in Oxford and Cambridge

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Speaker 4: and now Birmingham not even a city he went to,

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Speaker 4: but it's one of the most Islamified cities. And just

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Speaker 4: for context, Birmingham is where the Industrial Revolution was born.

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Speaker 4: It was the Silicon Valley of the eighteen hundreds. It's

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Speaker 4: where so much innovation happened. Now Islamified polling for the

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Speaker 4: city council election in Birmingham, the number one party is

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Speaker 4: going to be it's not going to be a party,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be an independent Islamist Alliance slate. They

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Speaker 4: are favored to come in first place with thirty one

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Speaker 4: seats out of about a huh, about one hundred it

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Speaker 4: looks like, and so they'll be Islamist party running the

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Speaker 4: largest city in Britain. It's something we haven't seen in

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Speaker 4: Britain since Muhammad came out of the desert. And the

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Speaker 4: other story that's really compelling. There's a Democrat Senate contender

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Speaker 4: in Michigan. He's running in the primary, and he said

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Speaker 4: they got recording for him. In a recording of him

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Speaker 4: in the Washington Freebeacon, he was telling voters he had

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Speaker 4: to stay silent about the killing of the Ayatola Hameni

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Speaker 4: because he says, many of the Muslim voters he is

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Speaker 4: interacting with in Dearborn in that area around Detroit are

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Speaker 4: very sad about the Ayatola's demise. So he's going to

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Speaker 4: remain silent on that issue, but they got that recording.

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Speaker 4: So two very profoundly symbolic stories. I think of what

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Speaker 4: we've allowed to happen to this country, doctor said.

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Speaker 5: And can I.

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Speaker 6: Those are great examples, of course, and they are part

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Speaker 6: of something that I, if memory serves me, right, I

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Speaker 6: had mentioned the last time that Charlie and I spoke,

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Speaker 6: which is there there's been a blue print that the

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Speaker 6: Moslim Brotherhood among other Islamic groups have been screaming for

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Speaker 6: everybody to listen to. From the top of the mountain.

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Speaker 6: They said, We're going to conquer the way by three means.

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Speaker 6: And the third means is the is related to the

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Speaker 6: two examples that you gave. So first, we're going to

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Speaker 6: conquer the West through the womb of our women, right.

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Speaker 6: Two we're going to conquer the West through hisra. Hisra

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Speaker 6: is the Arabic word for migration. Even Muhammad did hisra

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Speaker 6: from Mecca to Medina. And so of course what does

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Speaker 6: the West do, say, hey, come on in my brothers

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Speaker 6: in the millions. And then the third way, to your point,

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Speaker 6: We're going to conquer the West by using your miserable

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Speaker 6: freedoms against you. And so this is exactly what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: And to your earlier point, Blake, when you said it's

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Speaker 6: not always violent, right, in the fourteen hundred years of

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Speaker 6: history of Islam, not everywhere that they went to they

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Speaker 6: just decapitated everybody. Right, Sometimes it's that. Sometimes it's by

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Speaker 6: imposing very very stringent rules on the non Muslims, forcing

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Speaker 6: them to convert without putting the sword to their neck.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it's just by letting the model graphy takes its

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Speaker 6: natural toll. So there are many ways by which you

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Speaker 6: can close your eyes and open your eyes and suddenly

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Speaker 6: you went from zero Islam to ninety nine point nine

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Speaker 6: percent Islam. The problem comes from the fact that most

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Speaker 6: people don't have the imagination to be able to extrapolate. Right,

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Speaker 6: So short of you being in Dearborn or in some

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Speaker 6: areas in Minnesota, you think, well, come on, I live

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Speaker 6: in Arkansas, I live in Washington State. I don't see

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Speaker 6: a problem with Islam. Well, that's because the United States

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 6: is a very, very large country. So it's going to

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Speaker 6: take many hundreds of years before you see Dearborn repeated everywhere.

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Speaker 6: But if you allow it to happen, I will guarantee

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Speaker 6: you inshallah that it will happen. The Birmingham folks are

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Speaker 6: now finding out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean people are as you say, really, they're

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Speaker 4: not good at visualizing the numbers. I think often on

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Speaker 4: an exchange I had when I was way of the

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Speaker 4: Daily Caller, one of the first jobs I had, we

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Speaker 4: had an employee who was from Britain. And this is

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Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, twenty five fifteen, and I'm already then raving

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Speaker 4: about Islamisation of the West, about Britain, and one time

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Speaker 4: he just got exasperated at me. He said, Blake, why

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Speaker 4: do you care about this so much when they're one

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Speaker 4: percent of Britain? And I said, that's where you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: It was probably one percent when you were a kid.

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Speaker 4: And we looked it up and at that point it

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Speaker 4: was already five or six percent of Britain and it

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Speaker 4: was ten fifteen percent of London. And how much does

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Speaker 4: it move then in the decades since when they've kept

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Speaker 4: moving in they've had high birth rates. Britain's haven't had

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Speaker 4: high birth rates. If you're if they're having four kids

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Speaker 4: each and you're having one kid that moves very fast

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Speaker 4: in a single generation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, And if I could, oh, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I was going to say, and I made this analogy

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Speaker 6: with Pierce Morgan, but apparently, you know, my logic was

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Speaker 6: impenetrable to his mind. So take for example, diabetes. If

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Speaker 6: I say, if I am your endochronologist, and I say, hey, sir,

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Speaker 6: you have diabetes, and then imagine if the next day

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Speaker 6: you wake up and say, look, it's been a day

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Speaker 6: since I've had diabetes and nothing's happened to me. Nobody's

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Speaker 6: amputated my extremities. That physician must be an idiot because

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Speaker 6: nothing's happened to me look at me. Well, what he's saying,

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Speaker 6: he or she is saying is that there is a

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Speaker 6: very known trajectory of what will happen to you an

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Speaker 6: x number of time period. If you don't manage your

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Speaker 6: blood sugar level, it doesn't happen overnight. So that's exactly

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Speaker 6: the issue with demography is destiny. Peter Hammond, by the way,

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Speaker 6: I highly recommend that people check them out. He's a preacher,

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Speaker 6: I think out of South Africa. He wrote a book

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Speaker 6: many years ago where he broke down what happens to

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Speaker 6: a society. This is a historical analysis as a function

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Speaker 6: of the percentage of Muslims that are in that society

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Speaker 6: zero to two percent. Oh, they're just the lovely, peaceful,

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Speaker 6: exotic community, you know. Three to five percent, we start

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Speaker 6: being more aggressive in our police engagement, but you know,

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Speaker 6: we're still kind of peaceful, and you could perfectly trace

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Speaker 6: what will exactly happen. So I can show you different countries,

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Speaker 6: you know, France versus Australia versus Canada, and we can

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Speaker 6: put it into the Pete Hammond box to tell you

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Speaker 6: exactly what's happening. But again that goes to the point

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Speaker 6: of people are unable to extrapolate from time T to

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Speaker 6: time T plus N. If we don't solve this problem,

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Speaker 6: we will wake up one day all being called abdued.

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Speaker 2: Doctor said, what's the what would pete Pete Hammond? Is

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Speaker 2: that what you said?

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Speaker 5: His name was Pete Hammond.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the tipping point where they get really aggressive?

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Speaker 6: So the aggressive in that you better start putting on

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Speaker 6: running shoes and really run fast. It doesn't take much.

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Speaker 6: By about twenty percent, you're already getting into physical violence.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: So again that speaks to the fact that you know,

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Speaker 6: it didn't take one hundred and ninety million terrorists to

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Speaker 6: alter the New York City skyline.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: It didn't take one hundred and ninety thousand, It took

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Speaker 6: just nineteen. So the idea that you need, you know,

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Speaker 6: all two billion Muslims to sign up for violence you

1349
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Speaker 6: had for you before you wake up from your stupor

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Speaker 6: is really lacking an extrapolation imagination.

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Speaker 2: We're going to end the Islam talk here with a

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Speaker 2: cut from Charlie Top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Islamism has a tendency to take over and metastasize like

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Speaker 1: a cancer. Immigration without assimilation is invasion, and Islam does

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Speaker 1: not assimilate. Islam conquers. Islam takes over. Islam devours Islam

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Speaker 1: is an imperialistic, parasitic ideology. Islam views itself as a

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Speaker 1: conquering faith. You have to pray five times a day,

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01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: pointing towards a separate nation, pledging fealty to another nation.

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Speaker 1: Islam his own self story is that we will take

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Speaker 1: you over. It's totalitarianism masked as a religion.

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Speaker 2: Well said, It's one of my favorite c K rants

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Speaker 2: about this topic. Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like

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Speaker 2: and tell them your friend Andrews sent you. All right,

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Speaker 2: I want to break some news here, So it is official.

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Speaker 2: Pambondi is out, uh and it kind of will transition

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Speaker 2: into the other way that suicidal empathy manifests, which is

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Speaker 2: in our criminal justice system. So let's just go ahead

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Speaker 2: and get Peter Doucy's reporting from Fox News tot sixteen.

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Speaker 10: Kaylee, I just got off the phone with President Trump.

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Speaker 5: We have a big scoop.

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Speaker 10: Pambondy will soon leave her job as the Attorney General.

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Speaker 10: She is going to get a different job within the administration.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't sound like there is any bad blood between

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Speaker 10: her and President Trump, but it does seem like they

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Speaker 10: want her to go and do something else, and in

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Speaker 10: an interim role. She will be replaced by Todd Blanche

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Speaker 10: who is currently her deputy at the Justice Department.

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Speaker 2: So President Trump is uh given a truth social here,

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Speaker 2: Doctor sad, he says. Pam Bondi's great American patriot and

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Speaker 2: a loyal friend who faithfully served as my attorney general.

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Speaker 2: Over the past year. Pam did a tremendous job overseeing

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Speaker 2: a massive crackdown in crime across our country, with murders

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Speaker 2: plummeting to their lowest level since nineteen hundred. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that would just that just happened. It was just a trend.

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Speaker 2: We love Pam and she will be transitioning to a

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Speaker 2: much needed, important new job in the private sector, to

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Speaker 2: be announced at a date in the near future. And

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Speaker 2: our Deputy Attorney General, the very talented and respected legal

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Speaker 2: mind Todd Blanche, will step into serve as acting Attorney General.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter, Blake. We

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Speaker 2: reported it and it has come true once again. We

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Speaker 2: did this with Christy No by the way, same deal.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think we had an inside scoop on this one.

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Speaker 4: This time. Our scoop was some before.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, well yeah, fair enough. The other one was

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Speaker 2: a better call. Todd Blanche is tweeted as well. He says,

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Speaker 2: Pam BONDI led the department with strength and conviction, and

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful for her leadership and friendship. Thank you to

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Speaker 2: President Trump for the trust and opportunity to serve as

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Speaker 2: acting Attorney General. We will continue backing the blue and

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Speaker 2: forcing the law and doing everything in our power to

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Speaker 2: keep America safe, which ties in to this other. I

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Speaker 2: saw this story, doctor Sad, and I got enraged because

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Speaker 2: I've seen people do this to Charlie as well, where

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Speaker 2: people put up murals and then people take them down

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Speaker 2: or they vandalize them, and it's so infuriating to watch.

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Speaker 2: This is out of Providence, Rhode Island, a private business

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Speaker 2: erected a mural to Arina Zarutska to memorialize her in

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Speaker 2: her brutal murder on that train in North Carolina by

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Speaker 2: a repeat criminal who should have never been on the streets.

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Speaker 2: And this mayor is trying to take it down in

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Speaker 2: Providence SOT fourteen for you said.

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Speaker 4: The intent behind these murals is divisive and does not

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Speaker 4: represent Providence. The mural's artist sort of feels like he

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Speaker 4: was stifled.

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Speaker 11: Do you have any regrets about what you said and

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Speaker 11: how you handle that. I regret the state of where

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Speaker 11: we are in politics today, where absolutely everything is political

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Speaker 11: and controversial and hard. There's nothing we should be doing

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Speaker 11: to take away from the tragedy of the loss of

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Speaker 11: life that was represented here. But then it was distorted

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Speaker 11: by an erroneous tweet by our president, and then a

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Speaker 11: movement was funded by some right wing billionaires and it

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Speaker 11: found its way to our community. A private owner of

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Speaker 11: a building decided to put a mural up that I

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Speaker 11: don't think he understood the full context of. And I

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Speaker 11: was asked whether I thought it should come down, and

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Speaker 11: I thought it should. It certainly wasn't bringing us together

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Speaker 11: as a community. I don't think we're a stronger, more

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Speaker 11: united community because of this mural, and I thought the

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Speaker 11: best thing to do was to just take it down.

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Speaker 4: Dear God, that is like the perfect encapsulation of how

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01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,520
Speaker 4: the left paves. They love to weaponize that utterly bs

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Speaker 4: unify our community, We need to heal. They never believe

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Speaker 4: in that. If you wanted to believe in healing, this

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01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 4: is a way to do it. You allow people to

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Speaker 4: put up monuments for people they.

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Speaker 2: Like, so in arrest criminals that are killing press criminals.

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Speaker 4: And if the left, you know, if they want to

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Speaker 4: put up a statue of Caesar Chavez, you know, go

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01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 4: for it. They love Caesar Shavas and then allow us

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Speaker 4: to memorial the people that are murdered by left wingers

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Speaker 4: other national heroes. But they always love to say we

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Speaker 4: need to heal while they're ripping down a statue of

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Speaker 4: a founding father, while they're blotting out a mural of

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Speaker 4: an innocent woman who was butchered. These are not statements

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Speaker 4: of healing. These are not statements of unity. These are

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Speaker 4: statements of domination. He can only visualize the word for him,

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Speaker 4: unity is just I decide what you value, what you believe,

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Speaker 4: what you see, and if you don't like it. Shut

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Speaker 4: up and get out of the way. He's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: That is a perfect embodiment of suicidal empathy. It's a

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Speaker 2: weaponization of empathy. The floor is yours.

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Speaker 6: Doctor said, Yeah, so I would say, though, I will

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Speaker 6: address susatal empathy as relating to soft on crime policies.

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Speaker 6: But I'm sure that this mayor would have been first

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Speaker 6: in line to hail a mural.

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Speaker 5: Of George Floyd.

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Speaker 6: That would unify that, that would unify the community. But

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Speaker 6: not this poor beautiful Ukrainian immigrant. Okay, so let's link

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Speaker 6: it to sousado empathy. Sousadal empathy really has several manifestations,

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Speaker 6: one of which is the hyperactivation of empathy, right, But

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Speaker 6: the other part of soucidal empathy is when you know,

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Speaker 6: we all have a fixed tank of empathy that we

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Speaker 6: could met out now. Evolution has endowed us with the

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Speaker 6: capacity to strategically met out our empathy in biologically relevant ways.

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Speaker 6: So if a bus is hurling down at my children

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Speaker 6: or at some random strangers, notwithstanding that I would love

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Speaker 6: to save everybody, I am much more likely to jump

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Speaker 6: in front of the bus to protect my children. Right,

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Speaker 6: even though in a dream world everybody should be saved.

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Speaker 6: What suicidal empathy does is it completely removes the correct

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Speaker 6: targeting of who should be privy to your empathy. So

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Speaker 6: a felon, I call them, by the way, blank slate

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Speaker 6: felons to our earlier and point talking about blank slate

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Speaker 6: felons are born perfectly lovely and it's only society that

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01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 6: has made them bad, especially if they are felons of color.

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Speaker 6: So they've already been victimized by the white supremacy of

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Speaker 6: the United States. To now punish them when they've only

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Speaker 6: been arrested one hundred and seventy four times, shouldn't you

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Speaker 6: be giving them as one hundred and seventy fifth second chance.

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Speaker 6: And so it removes the personal agency of these felons,

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Speaker 6: so that all of our empathy is targeting the criminals

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Speaker 6: and not the victims. But I'll add another twist to

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Speaker 6: the criminality dimension of sucidal empathy. Suicidal empathy is so

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Speaker 6: parasitic that even the victims of the crimes feel greater

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Speaker 6: empathy to their felon who victimize them than to themselves.

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Speaker 6: And I'll give you two quick examples. Example, one Norwegian

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Speaker 6: men is sodomized by a Somali immigrant when the Somali

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Speaker 6: immigrant is about to be deported back to so much

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Speaker 6: the guy who had been raped by the Somali guy

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Speaker 6: had a existential breakdown because he felt so guilty that

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Speaker 6: the Somali sodomizer was not going to get a chance

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Speaker 6: to live a flourished life in Mogadishu.

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Speaker 5: That's example one. Example two.

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Speaker 6: A white American woman went to Haiti to break down

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Speaker 6: the stereotype that black men could be violent. She was

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Speaker 6: held on top of a rooftop by a Haitian man

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Speaker 6: who viciously raped her, and she walked away from that lesson, or.

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Speaker 5: From that experience with two lessons.

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Speaker 6: It's white supremacy that made him do this because he

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01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 6: was so enraged by how he was victimized, and she

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Speaker 6: ended up learning.

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Speaker 5: From this experience. So when you have a guy who.

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Speaker 6: Is sodomized and a woman who's viciously raped themselves feeling

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Speaker 6: empathy for their rapists, you couldn't have a better poster

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Speaker 6: child of suicidal empathy.

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Speaker 5: Jeez.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm reminded of Sarah Rogers, who has

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Speaker 2: those examples out of the Europe has lost.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll get a worse punishment for you know, calling

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Speaker 4: a group of gang rapists, savages or whatever it was,

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Speaker 4: than the rapists themselves will get the pigs something like that.

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Speaker 4: And it's just it's so destructive. I mean, we were

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Speaker 4: also bashing Canada the other day along with everything else.

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Speaker 5: That's three Canada free.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Canada has They just explicitly have racial discrimination in their laws.

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Speaker 4: They say, if you're from a racialized group, because races

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Speaker 4: aren't real, it's just some groups aren't racialized. That's the

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Speaker 4: Canada conceit. Then we have for crimes.

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Speaker 6: Forgive me for interrupting, because I'm seeing the countdown. I

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Speaker 6: want to get in as many cool facts for your audience.

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Speaker 6: In Canada, the University of Waterloo, which is sort of

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Speaker 6: the equivalent of Caltech or MIT, a largely engineering computer

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Speaker 6: science school, was hiring Canada research chairs. This is the

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Speaker 6: highest and doubt professorship that Canada has. They wanted to

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Speaker 6: hire AI professors to be competitive in AI, and the

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Speaker 6: job description said that you had to be non binary,

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Speaker 6: too spirit or transgender to hold that position. So the

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Speaker 6: Canadian government that endows this chair does not pick the

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Speaker 6: best AI people. They have to be non binary or

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Speaker 6: to spirit. Canada has Stage five suicidal empathy.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Gad said, this was amazing. He's suicidal empathy. Please

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Speaker 2: pick it up. It's been so much fun. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: genuinely believe that this is the vaccine to save the West,

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Speaker 2: and I really mean that, and Elon Musk agrees. Others agree.

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Speaker 2: But thank you, doctor said, it's been.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Guys, you're a pleasure. Thank you. Cheers.

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